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    Default Hot War heats up in Ukraine

    The following post on TF's site has several vids of the war taking place in Ukraine and after viewing a couple I must add they are quite a shock to the senses. Not for the faint of heart


    By Turd Ferguson | Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 3:21 pm


    The situation in southern Ukraine has rapidly deteriorated today as the NAF have begun an "offensive operation" in Mariupol. How this plays out in the days ahead remains to be seen but wait until you see and hear the YouTube clip we've found.

    Again, the TFMR Ukraine War Correspondent, SilverSooner, continues to keep Turdville up-to-date with all of the changing information. SS is able to see through some of the "war fog" and present concise summaries for all of us from information gleaned from his contacts on the ground in the Donbass. The first comment listed below is a copy-and-paste of the information he shared with us late yesterday.

    The situation has taken a dramatic turn for the worst today as the Novorussian Armed Forces (NAF) have begun what one of their leaders has called "an offensive operation". An excellent summary of the days events was posted to ZeroHedge earlier and I urge you to review this link: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...bels-launch-of...

    As this situation unfolds, your best source of immediate information continues to be Twitter. While I try to pass along anything of interest that I see through my account @TFMetals, I urge you to also follow some of these folks yourself:

    @ASLuhn

    @dpatrikarakos

    @MarquardtA

    @courtneymoscow

    @shaunwalker7

    Most importantly and, quite frankly the purpose of this post, you must diligently attempt to see through this fog of war yourself. The misinformation and propaganda is thick, on both sides. This is one reason why I've been posting the weekly Batchelor-Cohen discussions since last February!

    In "the West", you're being told that the Ukrainian armed forces tasked with defending Mariupol and other cities are a hard-scrabble crew of Ukrainian patriots. While that may certainly be true in some instances, I ask you to listen to this brief video that was taken earlier today in Mariupol. Does this soldier sound Ukrainian to you??



    Lastly, we've followed this situation very closely for the past year because of its potential, dramatic impact on The End of The Great Keynesian Experiment. With HOT WAR heating up across Ukraine and now with direct evidence of NATO mercenaries in country, this situation is about to get even more dangerous.

    Please continue to monitor it very closely!
    http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/6561/hot-war-ukraine


    "Out Of My Face Please" - Why Are US Soldiers In Mariupol?
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...diers-mariupol
    Following a disputed shelling in the strategic Ukrainian city of Mariupol last week, Obama said the United States will impose new sanctions on Russia.

    “We will continue to take the approach that we have taken in the past, which is to ratchet up the pressure on Russia,” Obama said during a news conference in New Delhi. “And I will look at all additional options that are available to us, short of military confrontation, and try to address this issue.”

    Although the source of the shelling is in dispute, the U.S. government and the corporate media uniformly blame Russia and militias opposed to the coup government in Kiev.

    “We are deeply concerned about the latest break in the ceasefire and the aggression that these separatists – with Russian backing, Russian equipment, Russian financing, Russian training and Russian troops – are conducting,” Obama added.

    In April, Infowars.com ran a story on a fabrication published by The New York Times claiming to show Russian Special Forces operating in Eastern Ukraine.

    Infowars.com reported at the time:


    The establishment media in the United States claims the photographs show Russian Federation troops. The State Department pawned the photos off as evidence despite the fact the authenticity of the photographs could not be independently verified. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said on Monday the images prove Russian troops are in Ukraine. “So these are just further evidence of the connection between Russia and the armed militants,” she said.

    “Two days after the New York Times led its editions with a one-sided article about photos supposedly proving that Russian special forces were behind the popular uprisings in eastern Ukraine, the Times published what you might call a modified, limited retraction.” Robert Parry wrote on April 23.

    NATO also produced satellite photos it said proved Russian troops were in eastern Ukraine. In response to the allegation, the General Staff of the Russian Army said the photos were taken in August 2013 during military drills on the border.


    While the U.S. and the establishment media insist Russia is behind the militias opposing Ukrainian military action in eastern Ukraine, they are ignoring evidence U.S. troops or American contractors are on the ground assisting the Ukrainian military.

    The Poroshenko government has been thus far unable to eliminate militias fighting against the coup occupation and the United States has signaled it will help them in the effort.

    A video posted on Youtube following the shelling shows an uniformed man confronted by a Ukrainian journalist.

    “Out my face, out my face!” the man says in American English.

    Soldier with American accent appears at 40 seconds into video.

    The head of U.S. Army Europe Lt. Gen Ben Hodges said during a visit to Kiev on Wednesday U.S. soldiers will deploy to Ukraine as part of a training effort of four companies of the Ukrainian National Guard.

    Pentagon spokeswoman Lt. Col. Vanessa Hillman told Defense News the training is part of a U.S. State Department initiative “to assist Ukraine in strengthening its law enforcement capabilities, conduct internal defense, and maintain rule of law.”

    “By ‘rule of law,’ they mean getting the Ukrainian military, which is ratcheting up its conscription, ready to crush eastern rebels, who have been demanding reforms after the new government imposed a series of harsh restrictions on the ethnic Russian east,” Jason Ditz wrote on Tuesday.

    “So far, the plans are to put the troops in Lviv, in the far west, which should keep the US forces from getting too directly into the nation’s civil war, though officials are saying this is just the ‘first step in further training,’ which means more operations could happen, putting troops closer to the frontlines.”

    In July, Air Force Gen. Philip M. Breedlove, the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO’s Allied Command Operations, announced the United States will send troops “to help respond to Russian aggression in Ukraine.”

    In April, a former U.S. diplomat and member of the Council on Foreign Relations, James Jeffrey, called for U.S. ground troops to be sent to Ukraine.

    “The best way to send Putin a tough message and possibly deflect a Russian campaign against more vulnerable NATO states is to back up our commitment to the sanctity of NATO territory with ground troops, the only military deployment that can make such commitments unequivocal,” Jeffrey wrote for The Washington Post.
    http://www.infowars.com/american-boo...nd-in-ukraine/
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    Mercenaries... was that a US accent?... almost thought it could have even been British.. (pick your choice) let's hope this one goes viral... gets my bump

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    I found this an interesting read in the midst of all the propaganda.

    Ukrainian Government: “No Russian Troops Are Fighting Against Us
    http://www.infowars.com/ukrainian-go...ng-against-us/

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    Acts of Desperation: Right On Cue

    Kerry: Porostinko Should 'Think Twice' Before Using Force in Donbass
    http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...022049994.html
    Quote Following an extensive six hour discussion between US Secretary of State John Kerry, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, and President Putin, Kerry stressed that any Ukrainian efforts to seize the Donetsk Airport through force would violate the Minsk Protocol and would face strict opposition from Washington.
    Did my ears hear that correctly?... Kerry... what a slimy piece of scum...
    whoever is handing him his scripts... must be getting desperate...

    Again to my mind it fits with "Steve Piecezenik theory" (i.e. they are all in on it, and Porostinko, might be the the odd man left standing without a chair when the music stops...You have to admit this whole operation has certainly pulled all the rats out of the woodwork... they are all identified...

    And now this

    Porostinko Green-Lights Bill Allowing Russians to Be Sent to Internee Camps
    Quote The bill applies to citizens of a foreign state who pose a threat to the security of the country, and it is worth mentioning that Russia has been declared by Ukraine an “aggressor state”. If the bill is approved, millions of Russian citizens residing in Ukraine will be interned in special camps as war prisoners.

    But wait there's more...
    Ukraine wants to sue Russia for 350 Billion
    (for damages after they got their a** handed to them on a plate
    for living in a fantasy world...)



    Putin, Kerry shake hands meet for talks in Sochi
    (Mission Accomplished, Assets soon to be divided)


    Notice they can't keep the silly grins off their faces... LOL!
    (another point for Steve Pieczenik Theory... check))

    And I have regularly seen the fat guy with the glasses always observing from the side... I think the US team uses psychologists to constantly monitor interactions to tease out and "brainstorm" potential "hidden" info that might be useful... like tics, tells, and other behavioural patterns they might be able to exploit in future negotiations... just a hunch...
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