Bin Laden: What Do We Really Know

[Matt P]

In relation, or perhaps response, to Sy Hersh's recent expose and controversy, this was published at Lewrockwell yesterday.
I love that the writer, Linh Dinh, has included bin Laden's full statement in response to the 9/11 false flag. Reading through it again I couldn't help but be amazed that this man was more intelligent, more articulate and more awakened than probably 99% of the American public in regards to their own country. In 2001, he was warning about 9/11 being solved by looking within, the US government running the international drug trade and our shadow government being in control. Incredible!

Matt

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/...in-laden-tale/

Since September 11, 2001, Bin Laden had been mostly an absence. His few video or audio tapes were highly suspect, and speculations about his death had often surfaced. On July 11, 2002, Amir Taheri wrote in the New York Times, “Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan [“] With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?”

But save for one doubtful video, Bin Laden never took credit for 9/11. In fact, he repeatedly denied any responsibility for those mass murders. On September 28, 2001, he was interviewed by the Karachi Ummat, an Urdu language newspaper. The US Foreign Broadcast Information Service, a component of the CIA, translated:

[“] I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. Neither I had any knowledge of these attacks nor I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and other people. Such a practice is forbidden ever in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children, and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya, and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies [of Muslims]. The US has no friends, nor it wants to keep one because the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates [“] Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed [“] The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive [“] Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Usama and Taliban and then this incident happened. You see, the Bush administration approved a budget of $40 billion. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their importance. Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the US Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other US President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who made the attacks [“]

Judge for yourself. Does this sound like the raving of some mad man with an ego the size of Mount Everest? He sounds quite composed, actually, and far more lucid, perceptive and concise than all American politicians and most intellectuals. In any case, this interview was the last substantial utterance from Bin Laden. After this, he more or less disappeared.

Though neither seen nor heard, he was often evoked to justify the crimes America was committing against others, and even her own citizens. Bin Laden vindicated whatever our leaders chose to do. But ten years is a long time to throw this shadow against our walls. This bearded man had become a bit of a joke, frankly. On a cartoon show, the folks of South Park, Colorado even asked Bin Laden to help them kill an invading horde from New Jersey.

On May 2, 2011, our government decided, finally, to kill off the Bin Laden apparition. Since the United States had supposedly been after him since 1998, you would think they’d hang on to their man a bit longer after they got him, if they got him, but within hours of finding her public enemy number one, America got rid of Bin Laden!

Hey, if you can’t show me something, maybe you don’t have it, especially since you are a chronic liar and in the cloak and dagger business. For most English-language trials since the disappearance of William Harrison in 1660, there has been the principle of no corpse, no murder, but here you actually have an open admission of murder, widely broadcast, but no corpse, which is tantamount to destruction of evidence, whatever it was.

So the CIA is basically saying to us, The dog ate my cadaver. Frankly, this farce was so crudely put together, the explanation so ridiculous, that our overlords must think most of us are morons, brainwashed as we are by cradle-to-grave propaganda delivered via print or pixels. I hate to think they might be right.

In a much-mocked photograph, Bush is shown in an Army jacket, his hands holding a tray with a picture-perfect turkey, garlanded by grapes. He is surrounded by American troops, most of whom are not looking at him. This is meant to convey that the photo was spontaneous, casual, and not posed. It is authentic.

In another photograph, this one declared an instant classic, iconic and paradigm shifting by our mainstream media, Obama is shown in the Situation Room of the White House, surrounded by his top security advisors. They are watching something. Of the thirteen faces, none is looking at the camera. Again, this is to convey that the photo was natural and spontaneous. Obama is shown in a casual jacket, Biden in shirt sleeves, details that indicate they are at work, and not posing for a propaganda photo, god forbid. This image is so authentic, in fact, that it borders on the illicit. This was a secret session, after all. That’s why all of the laptop monitors have been blackened out, and the photo in front of Hillary Clinton has been blurred. We should be thankful, then, for this courtesy peep at a scene we shouldn’t even have access to. The spontaneity is also reinforced by an unfamiliar face at the back, peeking in. She is younger and shorter than the rest, truly a little person among heavyweights, nearly all of whom are men, by the way, yet only the most cynical would conclude that this small woman was added to double the female representation in the room. A really tall and large woman would not do. Like that worm in the British royal wedding photo, this tiny woman provides just enough intrigue without distracting.

As we all know, Bush served up a plastic turkey, so the turkey propaganda photo was itself a turkey, but a much bigger turkey is the Situation Room image. Releasing it, the White House explained that Obama and company were watching the raid and execution of Bin Laden in real time, with the snuff film made possible by a camera mounted on the helmet of a Navy SEAL. Now, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that any head during a firefight is not likely to be stationary, not long enough, in any case, to broadcast steadily and clearly to the folks back home, not unless it wants to be a dead head, that is.

“Hey, SEAL with the camera, run up that stairs and fix your gaze on Geronimo, will you? Remember to stand still and don’t duck, so our Commander in Chief will have a vivid stream of images, OK?”

Soon after, the White House explained that there was no live feed of the crucial moment, after all, that the camera actually didn’t work for 25 of the 38-minute raid, so there was absolutely no video footage of Bin Laden, but why this sudden reversal? Can’t these people work out their lies before they broadcast them to us?

The White House had to backtrack because it had painted itself into a corner. It had already refused to produce photos of a dead Bin Laden. He had been shot above the eye, it said, shattering his skull, so such a gory image would inflame Muslim sentiments. “We don’t want to spike the football,” Obama explained. But if we can’t see a dead Bin Laden, how about a photo of him alive? If a helmet mounted camera could deliver a live feed to the Situation Room, surely it can produce at least one image of Bin Laden with his head still intact, and in that house? But this, too, was out of the question, incredibly enough.

With webcams, surveillance cameras, Google street view and the ubiquitous camera phones, it seems that the entire world is always photographed, or ready to be photographed these days, that anyone at any moment can be captured by that voracious shutter, then uploaded onto a screen. There are cameras hidden inside pens, books, boom boxes, clocks, air purifiers and smoke detectors. You can probably google any name, a grade school chum, your first lover, long lost cat, dead grandma, bless her soul, and find photos of them online, uploaded by the Pentagon, or maybe God himself.

The public has also come to expect a photo, as evidence or trophy, after any political assassination or execution. Just think of the strung up Mussolini, bloody Ngo Dinh Diem inside an armored car, a shirtless Che Guevara or the bandaged head of Leon Trotsky.

We are drowning in photographs, most of which we can do without, yet the one image that everyone wants to see this week, of a Bin Laden dead or alive during the raid, is not available. Instead, we are treated to a wealth of irrelevant information. We are told that there was “a hero dog” involved; that Obama and company had turkey pita wraps, cold shrimp, potato chips and soda, bought from Costco, the cheapo outlet—how nice, this common man touch—in the Situation Room; that Obama has met to congratulate his commandos, all highly intelligent and responsible family men between the ages of 30 and 40. Whatever.

The Bin Laden photos would not matter if there was a corpse, but that too, has gone missing, so without a cadaver or even the flimsy evidence of a photoshopped photograph, what is there to this sensational murder, really? Nothing but words from the CIA and the White House. Though they lied to us about Jessica Lynch’s “rescue” and Pat Tillman’s murder, we are to believe them this time because they have suddenly decided to speak the truth. Honestly.

Though the important questions are not being asked, the official lessons are being pounded into our heads. According to governmental bobbleheads and embedded media pundits, this virtual assassination is a vindication of America and her (evil) ways. The end justifies the means, you see, so waterboarding, extra-rendition and all the rest have been and are necessary.

Ari Fleischer, former Bush mouthpiece, attributed Bin Laden’s supposed assassination to “a strong foundation of anti-terrorist efforts including the predator strikes in northern Pakistan, indefinite detention, Guantanamo where we had interrogation techniques that led to the courier [“] all that is what Barack Obama continued that George Bush started. This is a day for all of us to just be proud of what our country has accomplished.”

Obama also dished up some righteousness, “Tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.”

An additional lesson was provided by New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman. With Bin Laden gone, he said to CNN, it was time to eradicate Bin Ladenism, which he defined as using violence to affect political changes. An apologist for the ultra violent state of Israel and America’s invasion of Iraq, Friedman did not seem to care that it is the US that leads the world in violence for political and economic ends. Even before 9/11, the Taliban made repeated overtures to hand Bin Laden over to the US, but America would have none of it. Our intention, then as now, was to bomb, bomb and bomb!

Like a great clean up batter, dead man Bin Laden brought everyone safely home. Bush could round the bases at last, could find closure and high five Obama at home plate. We’re all on the same team, see? Even Colin Powell could be defrosted long enough to gush over our Navy SEALs.

Assigned to this phony assignment, our Navy SEALs nevertheless messed up and left a huge, mangled chunk of a helicopter on a brick wall. How many Navy SEALs died in that crash? From a botched mission that didn’t involve Bin Laden at all, the US has fashioned a chest-thumping fairy tale to celebrate its supposed greatness. Further, if Bin Laden was such a feared leader of a terrorist organization, why was he shot on sight? For intelligence purpose alone, wouldn’t it be imperative to catch the old man alive? Long suffering from kidney failure, Bin Laden couldn’t have survived until 2011 anyway, but to point this out is to incur the blood curdling wrath of not just flag-waving, rah-rah Americans, but even progressive commentators, such is the level of brainwashing in this country.

On August 6, 2011, 22 Navy SEALs from the Bin Laden hit team were killed when they were shot out of the sky, supposedly by the Taliban. All 38 people onboard that Chinook died, 30 of them Americans. Not before or since had the Taliban killed so many Americans with one shot, and there’s also the question of why so many “heroes” from the Bin Laden fuss were so conveniently packed so as to be silenced like that? Liars and criminals, our grinnning leaders kill their own soldiers then pin medals on the cadavers.

To prove his US birth, Obama showed us an electronic file then, jokingly, a cartoon excerpt, but to prove Bin Laden’s death, Obama’s handlers have given us nothing but a cartoon narrative suitable only for dimwitted children. The bloody crooks hustling us must be incredulous, if not laughing uproariously, at what they can get away with in this nation of suckers.

[Cidersomerset]

I'm pretty sure he had very little if anything at all to do with 9/11. It seems to
be a Neo -Con , mossad , Saudi psyop which has been playing out Middle East
policy which was planned and being played out from pre - 9/11 right upto today.
Under the collective umbrella of " The war on Terror "..... from supporting the
mujahideens struggle against the Soviet union in the 1980's until the fall of the
USSR and continued on other fronts including the setting up and coordinating of
disparate groups under US led intel groups from Pakistan, Israel , Saudi , UK and
other allies.

Sleeping With the Devil: How U.S. and Saudi Backing of Al Qaeda Led to 9/11



Front row, from left: Major Gen. Hamid Gul, director general of Pakistan’s Inter-
Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), Director of Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
Willian Webster; Deputy Director for Operations Clair George; an ISI colonel; and
senior CIA official, Milt Bearden at a Mujahideen training camp in North-West
Frontier Province of Pakistan in 1987. (source RAWA)

Ronald Reagan meets Afghan Mujahideen Commanders at the White House in 1985 (Reagan Archives)

We Created Al Qaeda to Fight the Soviets in Afghanistan

Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski admitted on CNN that
the U.S. organized and supported Bin Laden and the other originators of “Al Qaeda”
in the 1970s to fight the Soviets.

Brzezinski told Al Qaeda’s forefathers – the Mujahadin:

We know of their deep belief in god – that they’re confident that their struggle will
succeed. – That land over-there is yours – and you’ll go back to it some day,
because your fight will prevail, and you’ll have your homes, your mosques, back
again, because your cause is right, and god is on your side.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/sleepin...to-911/5303313
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Osama bin Laden Responsible for the 9/11 Attacks? Where is the Evidence?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-b...evidence/15892

[Cidersomerset]

A couple of articles from David Ickes headline page that I posted on another thread.
The problem with Bin Laden , its the name now associated with 'Terror' , just as
Hitler with National Socialism , Stalin , Mao with Communism etc.....

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Intelligence Officer: ‘Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack’

new Sunday 17th May 2015 at 08:32 By David Icke





‘Apart from documents that have outlined supposed terrorist threats, like Al-Qaeda,
and their connection to US intelligence agencies, like the CIA, there are a number of
whistleblowers that have come out adding more fuel to the fire. Because not many
are even aware of these documents, letting people know about a truth that can be
hard for people to accept, let alone ponder the possibility is very important. It’s just
one aspect of the veil that’s been blinding the masses for quite some time now.

The latest whistleblower is David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer,
and the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence. He is a
former CIA clandestine services case officer, and this is what he had to say:

“Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services.
In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag,
or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking
out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve
become a lunatic asylum.”’

Read more: US Intelligence Officer: 'Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack'

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...e-flag-attack/

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53 Admitted False Flag Attacks

new Sunday 17th May 2015 at 08:31 By David Icke

Not Theory … Admitted Fact



‘There are many documented false flag attacks, where a government carries out a terror
attack … and then falsely blames its enemy for political purposes.

In the following 42 instances, officials in the government which carried out the attack (or
seriously proposed an attack) admits to it, either orally or in writing:’

Read more: 53 Admitted False Flag Attacks

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/...g-attacks.html

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
It's a really interesting thread Matt. Thanks for bringing it up. As I recall Osama Bin Laden was on Dialysis. Here is an article from Jan 21, 2002 that was talking about Bin Laden and that he more than likely had already died from kidney failure. There is lots of info online but I just wanted to bring up this point since over the years Bin Laden had be killed many times only to be resurrected for the final blow in Pakistan which there was never a body and even a burial at sea which does seem quite ridiculous.
chancy

Link:
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/

Article:
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden would need help if on dialysis

January 21, 2002 Posted: 10:42 AM EST (1542 GMT)
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
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(CNN) -- Speculation about the whereabouts and health of Osama bin Laden picked up over the weekend when Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, said he thought bin Laden had likely died of kidney failure.

CNN medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta spoke Monday with CNN's Paula Zahn about bin Laden's appearance in recently released videotapes and the possibility that the accused terrorist leader was undergoing kidney treatment.

ZAHN: For a point of reference, I'd like for you to analyze pictures of Osama bin Laden that apparently were taken prior to September 11. Describe to us the color and the tone of his skin, and then I want you to contrast that with pictures we know to have been taken much later.


GUPTA: You can look [at pictures from a December 2001 video] and notice that he has what some doctors refer to as sort of a frosting over of his features -- his sort of grayness of beard, his paleness of skin, very gaunt sort of features. A lot of times people associate this with chronic illness. Doctors can certainly look at that and determine some clinical features.

But even more than that, it's sometimes possible to differentiate the specific type of disease or illness that he may be suffering from. The sort of frosting of the appearance is something that people a lot of times associate with chronic kidney failure, renal failure, certainly someone who is requiring dialysis would have that.

He's also not moving his arms. I looked at this tape all the way through its entire length. He never moved his left arm at all. The reason that might be important is because people who have had a stroke -- and certainly people are at increased risk of stroke if they also have kidney failure -- he may have had a stroke and therefore is not moving his left side. And in the rest of the videotape, he does move his right side a little bit more than he does his left. So those are some of the things that are sort of "of note" here in this more recent videotape.

ZAHN: I think we need to remind the viewers once again that the president of Pakistan talked about [bin Laden] importing two dialysis machines into Afghanistan. Of course, no one other than the president of Pakistan right now is confirming that [bin Laden] in fact needed dialysis.

GUPTA: That's right. And again, renal dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That means their kidneys have just completely shut down.

The most common cause of something like that would be something like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally, dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting -- infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most.

ZAHN: If he had all these things you're talking about to keep the dialysis machine running, how much help does he need around him to administer the treatment?

GUPTA: You certainly need someone who really knows how to run that dialysis machine. You have to have someone who's actually assessing his blood, Osama bin Laden's blood, to see what particular dialysate he would need, and to be able to change his dialysate as needed. So you'd need a kidney specialist, a technician -- quite a few people around him.

[Matt P]

Thanks chancy! I remember that interview. Their mention of the December 2001 video of bin Laden reminds me, if I remember correctly, that that video was the last known authentic video of bin Laden. Everything released since then has been an obvious fake, which is a strong piece of circumstantial evidence that he did in fact die a short time after making it.
The biggest problems I have with Hersh's "attack" on Obama's bin Laden death story is that it leaves intact the false narratives that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 and was killed by the SEALS years later. So whether the Obama administration discredits or disproves Hersh or whether they don't, the false stories about bin Laden remain, and much of the sleepwalking country engages in the wrong debate and is perfectly distracted. THAT is what makes me think Hersh is part of the con because those that did 9/11 and started the entire bin Laden fake story after are getting off the hook. . Either that or it was a very specific op by "the powers" to plant this information with him, making him think it's legitimate.

Matt

[WhiteLove]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMlE6aiDFfY

William Cooper did a remarkable analyzis of the circumstances surrounding Bin Laden and he nailed it when he pointed out that some random CNN reporter on a 0 budget had knowledge about where Bin Laden was hiding so that interviews could be made, while the largest intelligence apparatus in the world and in the history of mankind spent years and years looking for him and could not find him. It simply does not add up, this was an operation with a lot of intelligence deployed behind the scenes, we know just a fraction of the truth. I think that Mr. Cooper had got a really good clue about what was going on behind the scenes and became a major threat, so they took him out.

There is more truth in what is hidden and missing than in what is visible and available.

[chancy]

Hello Everyone: It's interesting how "truth" gets sanitized. Here is a story of a Delta force Commander ( Dalton Fury ) fellow on 60 Minutes who wrote a book "Kill Bin Laden" - "A Delta Force Commander's account of the hunt for the World's Most Wanted Man"
by Dalton Fury

You can watch the 60 minute episode here on Dalton Fury:
Link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/elite-of...in-laden-hunt/

[Cidersomerset]

The US/UK NATO led invasion of Afghanistan is one of the biggest scams of the
21st century to date , and it was only a year old when 9/11 happened the clammer
to invade and get Bin Laden was a psyop from the beginning....

Total fabrigation to get rid of the Taliban and reopen the poppy fields and opium
trade among other plans for the country. It was also all part of the destruction
of information in building seven. A convenient way to demolish the twin towers
that had to come down anyway as the cost of refurbishment was colossal. ' Lucky
Larry' my arse , the drills and all the other 'COINCIDENCES' are ridiculous....
The murder of all those innocent victims and the millions after have not been
brought to book to date !!

Anyway we were led to believe 'Al Quaeda ' were the devils army dug in with
more weapons than ' Texas' ....LOL



Dick Cheney...911 Remember the lies... Imaginary Bin Laden Bunker Caves

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Up_BRRiwXE

There is a good BBC doc and amongst the propaganda they do some good
docs and post articles on the website , but they are not highlighted .
I have posted it several times and i' looking for it now......

This is a really good segment.....

9/11 Truth - Al Qaeda Doesn't Exist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5fjzzgzZJns

There's no such thing as al Qaeda, or al Qaida, or however you want to spell it. It's
a fraud perpetrated on the American people by our own government to scare us
into submission. This is a clip from the excellent three-part BBC documentary "The
Power of Nightmares". You can watch the whole thing on Google Video or download
it at scholarsfor911truth.org.

"The Power of Nightmares - 3of3 - The Rise of the Politics of", audiovisual content administered by:
BBC Worldwide

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hi all.

If you look closely at the Osama narrative and ignore the true/false bit,
you can see that each "major" press release since the alleged "raid" has been timed with Christian Pentecost month (the end of the 50 days following easter sunday iirc).

This May Day energy is a renewable yearly power source in terms of what TPTB try to commit to their agendas. We don't have to just accede/go along with their nefarious wills.

People need to call B.S. just like Mpennery here

Christian or not I dislike the weird use of Pentecost fervor each year to boost the Osama bin Stinkin mythos.

If that makes sense.
It would be like hijacking Super bowl Sunday each year to make a political announcement, sort of like "mission accomplished"

[Cidersomerset]

This is an excellent summery....I just watched it again .

9/11 - The Truth In 5 Minutes - James Corbett

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q

Published on 19 Jul 2012


Transcript and sources: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=2594

The official story of 9/11 is a lie. Six of the 10 members of the 9/11 Commission
said the final report is a whitewash. Given everything that was once considered
theory has been documented FACT, how many more lies will you believe from our
government before you realize that you really DON'T know everything going on in
the world. Take 5 minutes out of your regularly schedule corporate controlled media
and get a dose of the truth. And then do your own homework on all the information
presented here, put your critical thinking cap on and decide for yourself what you believe.

[Matt P]

I hope everyone will watch Whitelove's video of Bill Cooper. To understand the back story of bin Laden you have to listen to this. Bin Laden was an American military asset, recruited and trained and ultimately successful in the defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Some have claimed he was even an officer and a war hero...for the Americans. And many on this forum have reminded us of what happens to those who work for the elite and think they will be immune / safe from their actions by cooperating. The bin Laden story shows that they will use and betray anyone when it suits them.

Matt

[ghostrider]

there was a video of a lady speaking about how Bin Laden was dead back before 2008 ... going to see if I can find it ...

[ghostrider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MBTd5QNGB0

[Matt P]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MBTd5QNGB0

And, of course, we know what happened to Miss Bhutto for saying this and that she could end terrorism in Pakistan. She was promptly assassinated.
Thanks ghostrider.

Matt

[sandpainter]

Latest info from VT on Osama bin Laden
AKA Col. Tim Osmond = CIA

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05...w-may-19-2015/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01...-at-arlington/

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...Laden&start=10

http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-b...notice/5358889

[ghostrider]

You know , anyone with truth that goes against the agenda of the PTB are silenced and killed , and never allowed to speak unfiltered to the media ... have you noticed ??? people that threaten the narrative are erased ...