The earth is flat, not round. We are being mind set by Annunaki/Illuminati/TPTB

[Ikarusion]

the earth is not flat, its a dodecahedron. i saw it, trust me.

how does that information change your life though? how is it affecting you?
how our planet looks like from a extraterrestrial point of view, doesnt really change anything for me personally

[loveoflife]

I have looked at the flat earth stuff they have many compelling arguments, some which make more sense than a ball earth. I have noticed that some consider a flat earth so ridiculous as not to even look at the information provided. It is best you investigate with no preconceptions, and remember that we have been conditioned to believe in a ball earth. There is a globe in every classroom.

Those who provide flat earth information do counter all the all the arguments for a ball earth. This is a huge topic with many aspects to it. Reasons for a round earth mentioned on this tread i have heard counter arguments for.

As for myself, i dont know, proof for me would be going into space to have a look. One thing is certain, i do not trust NASA, they have a history of lying.

One of the most amazing experiences of my life was when i was up on a mountain on a clear star filled moonless night. I always remember remarking how the stars and sky made a dome shape from horizon to horizon. The experience was one of being inside a huge star filled dome.

[loveoflife]

If flat earth theory is true. Then is shows just how pervasive and extensive the matrix of manipulation and control of our perception of reality goes. It was an eye opener for me after examining the evidence.

The Masonic links are interesting and make it an interesting conspiracy theory.

As those who believe and promote the Flat Earth theory mention that this information could change everything and cause people to question authority more than anything else, exposing a conspiracy that is 500 years old about the Earth we live upon would challenge science and shake academia to its foundations, then cause people to question everything.

Though i cannot see that happening, there is evidence on both sides of the argument and belief is a matter of preference and accepting a flat earth would mean challenging inherent conditioning and accepted beliefs about reality.

It is though a fascinating subject for research.

There is also some controversy among flat earthers, there are claims that The Flat Earth Society exists to ridicule the idea and is controlled opposition.

[araucaria]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
The Flat Earth Theory keeps popping up. And it doen't seem to be going away no matter how much the conspiracy theorists get mocked for trying to prove it.

Of course it will keep popping up for as long as people like you keep starting new threads on this tired old subject that really does a disservice to serious conspiracy theory. Just give it a rest, and you will find it goes away.

[Ikarusion]

Posted by loveoflife (here)
I always remember remarking how the stars and sky made a dome shape from horizon to horizon. The experience was one of being inside a huge star filled dome.

reminds me of:


which made me find:

[loveoflife]

Posted by Ikarusion (here)

Posted by loveoflife (here)
I always remember remarking how the stars and sky made a dome shape from horizon to horizon. The experience was one of being inside a huge star filled dome.

reminds me of:


which made me find:

Apparently the top painting Flammirion is a depiction of a flat earth, looking through the firmament. It was meant literally and not metaphorically.

I always thought that it depiction of looking through the veil of illusion.

Every time that i look at youtube on this topic there are more videos by different people.

This subject for whatever reason seems to be growing with new converts every day. I does not appear to be going away.

For those who have looked at the nature of conspiracies in depth and scope and know what is going on, this seems to be the last big one.

[loveoflife]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
The Flat Earth Theory keeps popping up. And it doen't seem to be going away no matter how much the conspiracy theorists get mocked for trying to prove it.

Of course it will keep popping up for as long as people like you keep starting new threads on this tired old subject that really does a disservice to serious conspiracy theory. Just give it a rest, and you will find it goes away.

I was listening to Thomas Sheridan saying the same, that this was another topic to discredit conspiracies. Its seem there are many with this opinion.

Personally i find it no more outrageous and ridiculous than some of the UFO and alien stuff out there which is another topic that Sheridan argues against and he has some good points.

Whatever the topic there are always good arguments on both sides. What amazes me the most are those who take an arbitrary stance without looking at both sides.

If the flat earth believers did not have good logical arguments, it would be easily laughed away as nonsense.

[DarMar]

on one side you have people which believe flat earth, on other you have spherical earth... they fight each other
funny thing is they are both WRONG :D

it is like + and -
left and right
black and white
day and night

constant war between each other
only by releasing injected 'knowledge'
one is able to see the truth

[take]

Can I hide threads like this? If not, I suggest there should be such a function on this forum.

Of course, it is sometimes fun and amusing, even though-provoking and challenging to discuss epistemology, but please let's not do it by starting threads where people actually question whether earth is spherical or not. It isn't very contrstructive, actually far from it. It is distracting, and a waste of attention, focus and energy (imho).
It's like talking about whether or not you can actually breath underwater without any equipment and not die, when it is most likely that you do, or like wondering what will happen if you shoot yourself in the head with a shotgun, when we have evidence and pretty well-informed, educated guesses about what is the most likely outcome on both occasions.

It is a bit of a rant, sometimes it's just very disappointing to come here these days.
You keep talking about this if you like, I'm out.

[Hervé]

Posted by loveoflife (here)
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As for myself, i dont know, proof for me would be going into space to have a look. One thing is certain, i do not trust NASA, they have a history of lying.

NASA may be lying about a number of things, however, their rocket science base on Newtonian laws of sub-spherical planetoids, doesn't. Nor does that rocket science lies to other similar agencies getting their launch sites as close as possible to the Equator so as to benefit of the "Space Wind," i.e. Earth's highest rotational acceleration, rather than go against it.

I have to yet see a rocket science developed out of a flat Earth theory that doesn't fall flat on its face

One of the most amazing experiences of my life was when i was up on a mountain on a clear star filled moonless night. I always remember remarking how the stars and sky made a dome shape from horizon to horizon. The experience was one of being inside a huge star filled dome.

There lies the crux of the matter: a subjective, emotional experience of a reality. Repeat that experience at Mt Everest, Fuji Yama, Kīlauea, Aconcagua, Kilimanjaro, etc... and realize: "How come so many perfectly circular 'domes'?"

... as in:

... or:

Geometrical horizon distance

[transiten]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post961622

Mercury retrograding today, disinformation goes viral

[robinr1]

whats the point of this post? and if u truly didn't want to be part of the thread.....or ignore the thread....its not hard....just don't come here...

Posted by take (here)
Can I hide threads like this? If not, I suggest there should be such a function on this forum.

Of course, it is sometimes fun and amusing, even though-provoking and challenging to discuss epistemology, but please let's not do it by starting threads where people actually question whether earth is spherical or not. It isn't very contrstructive, actually far from it. It is distracting, and a waste of attention, focus and energy (imho).
It's like talking about whether or not you can actually breath underwater without any equipment and not die, when it is most likely that you do, or like wondering what will happen if you shoot yourself in the head with a shotgun, when we have evidence and pretty well-informed, educated guesses about what is the most likely outcome on both occasions.

It is a bit of a rant, sometimes it's just very disappointing to come here these days.
You keep talking about this if you like, I'm out.

[Bill Ryan]

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It's an interesting (and worrying) problem. Omniverse posted on the latest Andy Basiago thread that a recent poll on the David Icke forum had resulted in 17-18% believing in a Flat Earth:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post961588

It's a kind of increasingly common syndrome in the 'New Age' movement of refusing to believe any kind of 'authority' about anything, including all good scientists (and all good scientific thinking): indiscriminately throwing out a vast number of totally healthy babies in the bathwater. It's purely reactive, and has nothing to do with what intelligence is for or about.

I should say on record here, in case it's useful for me to make the clarification: 'Flat Earth' discussions (which seriously examine and take seriously the notion) do NOT properly belong on this forum apart from discussing the matter as a phenomenon (as per this post, and of course a number of others). We won't censor them, but anyone who does take the idea seriously merely shows themselves up as being unable to think very clearly. And that's not a good thing.

[panopticon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
It's a kind of increasingly common syndrome in the 'New Age' movement of refusing to believe any kind of 'authority' about anything, including all good scientists (and all good scientific thinking): indiscriminately throwing out a vast number of totally healthy babies in the bathwater. It's purely reactive, and has nothing to do with what intelligence is for or about.

Murmurs of agreement from this little black duck.

No matter how many times I say that independent researchers have done measurements for something and showing their data/research methodology some muppet comes out and says "oh they must be a member of or financed by [insert favourite conspiracy/group]".

It's one of the reasons I take breaks from Avalon periodically. No matter how patient I am sometimes I just can't take another comet/asteroid/dead pacific sea etc story without frustration.

Oh and while I'm having a whinge, to add salt to the wound usually the same people who declare the end is neigh and/or that I am a fool are using a channeller as a bloody source!

Anyway, enough of me. Everyone, please resume your regular programming.

-- Pan

[Mutchie]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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It's an interesting (and worrying) problem. Omniverse posted on the latest Andy Basiago thread that a recent poll on the David Icke forum had resulted in 17-18% believing in a Flat Earth:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post961588

It's a kind of increasingly common syndrome in the 'New Age' movement of refusing to believe any kind of 'authority' about anything, including all good scientists (and all good scientific thinking): indiscriminately throwing out a vast number of totally healthy babies in the bathwater. It's purely reactive, and has nothing to do with what intelligence is for or about.

I should say on record here, in case it's useful for me to make the clarification: 'Flat Earth' discussions (which seriously examine and take seriously the notion) do NOT properly belong on this forum apart from discussing the matter as a phenomenon (as per this post, and of course a number of others). We won't censor them, but anyone who does take the idea seriously merely shows themselves up as being unable to think very clearly. And that's not a good thing.

Its a FUNNY THING but just recently ALL THESE videos proposing the Flat earth theory have started popping up all over ......

I cannot understand how someone would propose it in a SERIOUS MANNER .... it just couldnt be it isnt

Why now ? who is pushing this idea or is it an AGENDA ???

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by panopticon (here)
Murmurs of agreement from this little black duck.

Er eh ... I hope this won't come as any great shock to you panopticon, but you appear to be a black cat, not a black duck:

[panopticon]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by panopticon (here)
Murmurs of agreement from this little black duck.

Er eh ... I hope this won't come as any great shock to you panopticon, but you appear to be a black cat, not a black duck:

I be incognito me ol' salt

[loveoflife]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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It's an interesting (and worrying) problem. Omniverse posted on the latest Andy Basiago thread that a recent poll on the David Icke forum had resulted in 17-18% believing in a Flat Earth:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post961588

It's a kind of increasingly common syndrome in the 'New Age' movement of refusing to believe any kind of 'authority' about anything, including all good scientists (and all good scientific thinking): indiscriminately throwing out a vast number of totally healthy babies in the bathwater. It's purely reactive, and has nothing to do with what intelligence is for or about.

I should say on record here, in case it's useful for me to make the clarification: 'Flat Earth' discussions (which seriously examine and take seriously the notion) do NOT properly belong on this forum apart from discussing the matter as a phenomenon (as per this post, and of course a number of others). We won't censor them, but anyone who does take the idea seriously merely shows themselves up as being unable to think very clearly. And that's not a good thing.

There is also a problem right there with science and who decides and explains to the layman what is good science and bad science,

Herve made a point:

NASA may be lying about a number of things, however, their rocket science base on Newtonian laws of sub-spherical planetoids, doesn't.

Now excuse my ignorance but i have not got a clue what that means, or a clue about rocket science, that like a rocket went right over my head.

The flat earth theory is not rocket science and those promoting it speak in plain easy to understand language. Where scientists have difficulty making themselves understood by the layman, and expect us to bow to their superior knowledge and simply believe them. I can understand why many are now accepting the possibility of a flat earth, they are not being talked down to.

The problem is who and what are we to believe with so many scientists paid for and funded by corporations and governments.

Take global warming or climate change there appears to be good science on both sides, yet those scientists who do not tow the official party line receive no funding and cannot find work.

There are also scientific experiments that prove a flat earth.

There are many videos on youtube promoting a flat earth, and not enough debunking it by addressing all the arguments of the flat earthers point by point and explaining the science in easy to understand terms to those with a basic knowledge of maths and science.

The flat earth vids are one hour or longer and go into great detail, where the debunkers only spend a few minutes and do not seem to be informed as to what the flat earthers are saying.

I still find it a fascinating subject.

[Hervé]

Posted by panopticon (here)
[...]

Murmurs of agreement from this little black duck.

[...]

-- Pan

Hmmm... you an ugly catling?

[loveoflife]

Posted by Mutchie (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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It's an interesting (and worrying) problem. Omniverse posted on the latest Andy Basiago thread that a recent poll on the David Icke forum had resulted in 17-18% believing in a Flat Earth:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post961588

It's a kind of increasingly common syndrome in the 'New Age' movement of refusing to believe any kind of 'authority' about anything, including all good scientists (and all good scientific thinking): indiscriminately throwing out a vast number of totally healthy babies in the bathwater. It's purely reactive, and has nothing to do with what intelligence is for or about.

I should say on record here, in case it's useful for me to make the clarification: 'Flat Earth' discussions (which seriously examine and take seriously the notion) do NOT properly belong on this forum apart from discussing the matter as a phenomenon (as per this post, and of course a number of others). We won't censor them, but anyone who does take the idea seriously merely shows themselves up as being unable to think very clearly. And that's not a good thing.

Its a FUNNY THING but just recently ALL THESE videos proposing the Flat earth theory have started popping up all over ......

I cannot understand how someone would propose it in a SERIOUS MANNER .... it just couldnt be it isnt

Why now ? who is pushing this idea or is it an AGENDA ???

It seems to be centered around Eric Dubay, who has written a book about it and has posted many videos. He has website Atlantean Conspiracy. He is very serious.

In the op vid he is saying that a sperical earth conspiracy is a Freemason agenda.