Best place in the world to live?

[Lifebringer]

Hmm.. as long as there is direct deposit and swipe card system in place, even a senior in America on fixed income, could live healthy. I hope there are high mountains. Africa seems to be the only continent that survives global flooding, Everest and other highlands probably helped mankind to live/survive.

[Roisin]

The best place to live is where family and long time friends are. You can't maintain meaningful relationships with them long distance; something is always "lost" when trying to do that. Ones environment is what one makes of it because for the most part, no matter where one lives, one can always appreciate its beauty and vibrancy if one chooses to look for it. Nature is everywhere... even if it's just a little brook running in ones backyard but the bottom line is, we are here to establish and maintain relationships with others on an intimate and meaningful level. The fruits of our efforts in this area reflect who and what we are. Sitting on a mountain and gazing over the world from afar is not intimacy.... it's just gazing. lol

[Matt P]

I should clarify a couple things...
I love where I currently live and am not actively trying to relocate right now. I am among family and friends. Buuuuut, I have lived and had incredible experiences in other countries and the thought of packing up my family and beginning a new adventure does not scare me at all. My wife and I talk about it often, not because we want to run but because we remember how much fun it is and we'd like our kids to get a taste. But I have to be honest with what I see with my country and no matter how many friends and family I have here, if the police state becomes complete and they begin mandatory vaccine injections and other such tyrannical actions I...am...outta...here. No way is anyone messing with my kids. My mother-in-law travels to Ecuador and Costa Rica and other countries looking for the type of place I started this thread about. Matter of fact, she put a deposit down on a great little farm in Ecuador last year (for all of us to potentially move to) but then pulled out at the last minute. We are just collecting as much information as we can about where to go if we must. We have all our passports in order. Does that mean I want to leave? No, not really. We have a great life here. Work is great. Schools are great for the kids. I've got a local food co-op right down the street, etc. But I'd leave it in a second if I can't collect and filter my own water, grow my own organic food, have the right not to inject poison into my kids and not be considered a terrorist just because I am aware and informed. So, I'm happy but I'm aware enough to see that "they" are encroaching on my ability to maintain my happiness (atmospheric spraying plays big here).

As for my list, I wish I had spent more time on it. And the marijuana inclusion was more a way to gauge a country or state's tolerance for victimless activities than a wish to be able to toke in public. I do smoke but I can do that anywhere, regardless of silly laws.

There's been some great suggestions already on here and I am grateful. I have been and will continue to explore your ideas. Please keep 'em coming.

Matt

[Philaletheian]

now might not be the best time, given the recent quakes happening in Nepal(bless those souls), but if you decide to embark on a spiritual journey, and don't mind subzero temperatures then come down to the Himalayas in Nepal or Tibet, the baba's or any highly spiritual Shiva worshiping servant, is free to smoke pot and carry it around(you should see the entire North India during Kumbh-Mela totally up in smoke, all legally of course) but like i said only a spiritual quest, as materialism is an art you cannot practice around here.. also my friend keeps telling me about certain places in Addis Ababa, rumors of course none legit.

[gripreaper]

Maybe a "little twist" of logic here would fit in this thread? I've been looking into for years, the possibility of living as an American National rather than an indentured statutory citizen right here in the USofA. It's a pretty deep rabbit hole, and it required me to back engineer the entire history of this country to determine how we got this way, and how we might get back to the original organic Articles of Confederation and individual sovereignty.

The idea, is that those who accept the benefits and privileges of citizenship are therefore required to follow all of the mandates of being a citizen, which as you have indicated, are becoming more and more encroaching as the days go by. To me, the idea of a cashless society, where every move we make is sanctioned, monitored, and mandatory, signals the last vestiges of what illusion of freedom we might still have. The idea of being forced to inject poison into my body via mandatory vaccine, as well as ruining our water, air and food for the sake of population reduction, and mandatory "death" care, licenses, fees, and registrations, really is getting under my skin.

The idea of stepping out of this system, declaring my sovereignty, coming forward as alive, not accepting or using any of the alleged benefits and privileges, and not being subject to the statutory rules and regulations, and being able to hold allodial title to myself and the land I choose to live on, makes sense and has merit. It has caveats of course, as the whole system of commerce is under the Federal Reserve fiat debt structure and it is almost impossible to function outside of this system. They make it pretty hard to step out and leave the plantation. As Russell Means (RIP) was famous as saying, "Welcome to the Reservation". As brother Jonas would say, we are all niggers now.

I'm inclined to stay put and keeping an eye on those who are in the trenches and working on getting out of the system, and help to educate those who are willing as to how we lost our freedoms, and how we might stand together and open up a new paradigm and a new age, not the New World Order one that is being laid out for us, but one of sovereignty and freedom.

Most still do not want freedom and like the slave/master relationship. Remember, the G20 nations are all bankrupt and subject to the global fiat system, have long since sold their birthright and taken on the debt. The BRICSA alliance that is touted as the answer against the neocon Zionist fascist imperialistic Kazarian mafia system is, in my opinion, the counter dialectic to the New World Order and will be trumpeted as the answer at some point, although it is not any different that the current system and will still be a debt system, only a fully digital surveillance one.

Last I checked, there were only four small countries that fell outside this system, and you can guess which ones they are, because they are the ones under pressure by the military industrial complex to come into the fold, or else we will bomb you. It happened in Libya. I would agree there are countries which this system does not have their tentacles quite as deep, but make no mistake, their banksters are all cut from the same cloth and imperialism of resources, both natural and human, goes on unabated in these countries as well. The globalists see the planet as one big appendage to their grandiosity and do NOT see national boundaries at all. Those are just for us to get the illusion that there is choice, there isn't.

I will continue to post any breakthroughs that I see in regards to how to get out of the indentured system. I hope mankind chooses freedom and sovereignty over slavery and indentured servitude, I really do. Right now he is very much a slave and barely realizes it. I don't think it makes any difference where you are on the planet, consciousness needs to shift and people need to want freedom. Forced vaccinations and a cashless society just might be the catalyst.

If people don't want freedom and sovereignty, I might just be right there with ya Matt.

[Michael Moewes]

I'd say Venus, Mars or Andromeda.
But I don't know.
For me it's Spain especially the north, in the mountains.
Live healthy, Live Vegan

[EvoAwa]

Everywhere on this face of the planet Earth has the potential to become a paradise, a home for spiritual growth and learning.
Right now, we have to make the most of it and learn to adapt. And make anywhere and everywhere our potential home regardless of our race, gender, spirituality, job, etc. In the near future or far future, I think planet Earth will become the place we all envisioned to be.

[3(C)+me]

If I had kids underfoot I would most probably be thinking of leaving the US, not just forced vaccinations but the schools, all the violence and what to feed your kids that will not slowly kill them. I think it would be very scary to be a young mother/father and know what is going on and what the big picture is. I think Iceland would be a good choice if one does not mine the cold. They threw out all the banksters and went their own way and the reason the MSM says not a word about Iceland it they don't want to rest us to know you can throw out the bastards and start again. US is going to have some very dark and scary years ahead of it no doubt.

[mahalall]

A lot of enlightened minds are descending on Abu Dhabi:UAE. Learn to meditate and your see the emerati as a surprise jewel😏

[Morbid]

good thread. many great ideas here. id like to contribute by promoting russia for a bit. i know most of you here can see through the propaganda, but still some are quite unaware in regards to what russia is all about. lots of generalisation and years of discreditation has made a quite negative image in the eyes of westerners. i would just place few facts here for you to consider.
the way russia been rebuilt from the ruins of soviet rule is rather impressive. 90s were horrible with many people escaping corruption and powerty. but now many are ether returning or planning to return including myself. the prospects for future are very high as the leadership is cleansing itself from zionist rule. soon the central bank would become state controlled, at that point economy would thrive.
russians love foreigners. especially from the west as they view them as those who managed to escape the capitalism and materialistic lifestyle.
taking into account that russia is very diverse and multinational state with all religions given full freedoms, there are still quite few americans there. being russian is not a national identity. being russian means you're part of the tribe so to speak.. im not russian at all for example, but being born there dont make any less russian than anyone else - cool concept. like america in the way.
finding a job would be no problem as any businessman would be proud to employ a westerner. you will definately have respect. there would be problems with the language but its picking up and young generation is ok with english especially in moscow.
seasons are really distinct there especially in the summer. winters are not as cold anymore due to global warming.
most people own out of town cottages where they escape city buzz and grow own fruits/vegetables or just chilling with friends.
education is really good there and is above western standards. its one of the few things that is still strong after soviet system. sports are strong too and almost free for children. state of the art sport facilities all over the place.
despite what most believe citizens in russia exercise a lot of freedoms. i would go as far to say that common scense is dominantly in use there unlike in most western countries where laws are on borderline with total absurd.
food is very good especially during seasons. supermarkets there too but most still prefer markets as the difference in quality is substantial. cheaper too.
property is cheap. except moscow which is considered as another country.
low taxes and government now encouraging businesses to startup with 2 years tax free.
cannabis are still viewed as drugs but its conservative view which wouldnt stay for much longer. alot of people smoke and grow as most have plots of land.
healthcare is very good, fast and cheap. another soviet perk. you can literally walk into polyclinic, do all sort of tests and see the doctor with results on the table next morning. pay little money and you get even better service.
roads are good in and around moscow. outside moscow they are getting better. big country...
crime used to be real bad and most still remember it. now its been dealt with and citizens sometimes take action to participate - quite funny actually.
regarding spraying - i dont know but im sure the government wouldn't allow it as its in their interest for public to be healthy. this might sound bizarre but its how people feel there.
last but not least is the fact that people in any position are willing to sympathize with you. if you open up, they can go extra mile to help. hard to grasp sometimes but once understood living in russia becomes like being a fish in the sea.

[The Lawnman]

I believe the major pathos of his experience [Joel Skousen] is that no matter where one lives, there are always benefits v. risks associated with the place. One may eliminate some of the concerns you've mentioned only to be exposed to others not mentioned. So, pick your battles wisely. Perhaps the known threats living in one place are not as bad as the unknown ones encountered living elsewhere on the globe.

For example, I remember watching a short documentary called "180º South" where Jeff Johnson retraces the epic 1968 journey of his heroes Yvon Choulnard and Doug Tompkins to Patagonia. Patagonia being about as far south as one can get with beautiful landscapes and scenery and yet, the indigenous people are still having to deal with the invasive predatory actions of their Governments exploiting their natural resources by selling them to global Corporations for profit regardless of who suffers or is adversely affected in the meantime. This trend is happening all over the world, i.e. Dafar, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea; causing the indigenous people to leave places they've lived for generations.

While I am well aware of the issues you mention in the UNITED STATES, I have chosen to live an alternative lifestyle that seeks to mitigate many of these threats as much as possible. I believe there are a lot of things one can do within the continental united States to achieve this goal. But it takes research, commitment and resolve to do it and even then its not perfect. Moreover, after all I've read and experienced in life, I've come to the conclusion there are no guarantees and regardless of where one lives there are going to be issues that have to be addressed. The good news is, there are always good alternatives and viable options for those that seek them out.

[Matt P]

The thread looks to have run it's course but I came across something interesting today and I wanted to save it here for future reference.
A new country has been created, that claims it is what I am looking for.
A most interesting development...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/...try-in-europe/

https://liberland.org/en/about/

Matt

[Ikarusion]

good luck getting in there though. i read many people have applied already or stated their interest and its just too small of a place to fit in everyone whod like to live there.

me personally, id probably choose some place in south america or asia. many places there seem to fulfill your requirements, except the drug laws though.

[Omni]

Oregon is my favorite in America, not everything on your list... Cannabis legal here in July . Portland Oregon is a very nice city in my view. First and maybe only city to reject the war on terror.

[3(C)+me]

Posted by mpennery (here)
The thread looks to have run it's course but I came across something interesting today and I wanted to save it here for future reference.
A new country has been created, that claims it is what I am looking for.
A most interesting development...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/...try-in-europe/

https://liberland.org/en/about/

Matt

Wow, how interesting. I might apply just to see if I could get in and then, well I just might go.

[Ikarusion]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
Oregon is my favorite in America.

this was actually my first choice when thinking of a us state to reallocate to.

[Robin]

Brother, I know the feeling. How unfair is it that somebody who is born in a place and dislikes the place they are born in, cannot just get up and leave? I was born in the U.S. but I did not choose to live here. I am not responsible for the mess this country is in. How ridiculous it is that we do not have the capability of moving to some place on this planet that is not part of a government-controlled system? Every part of this planet is owned by the Global Parasites, and it sucks. Mars would not be far enough to run from them and their control, to be honest.

Well, I guess I could move to Antarctica and hang out with the penguins. I could have an underground facility with Free Energy, which would take care of just about everything.

Anyway, though I am young, I have done my share of trying different things and living in different places. I have lived in Chicago most of my life, which was just listed as the most corrupt city in the U.S. for like the tenth year in a row. I know what it is like to live in a big city where everybody is incredibly dumbed down and surveilled. I also know what it's like to live in one of the most rural places in the U.S. I lived on an organic farm/intentional community far far away from any urban area where we grew all of our own food.

And you know what I learned? I learned that no matter where you live, if you cannot find people to relate to who are on your wavelength, then you may not be as happy as you would have hoped. Even though I lived on an organic farm far away from the Police State, I still did not find happiness. Though the people there were very nice and eco-friendly, they were still oblivious to what was happening to the world, and talking to them was just as boring as the average person who lives in a city. So I left.

I have realized that I would rather live with my girlfriend deep in the Police State in a large city with a possible small network of aware folks than I would in the mountains of Ecuador around people I cannot relate to at all. Humans are social creatures, and it is natural for us to be around other humans who make us happy. So my advice would be to go wherever you can find people to relate to. At least you have a family who is on your wavelength, so you'll never feel alone.

Wherever I end up digging my feet into, I'm going to do whatever i can to connect with people of like mind. If it gets to the point where the government instills mandatory RFID chip implants and vaccines, let's just say that I am not leaving this world without a bloody fight.