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    John Lash- The Sophianic Myth

    I think John Lash is a key factor in the dialogue of now. I found his work in 2008 through first listening to futureprimitive.org which led to his site metahistory.org and consequently
    gaiaspora.org. Now I receive his work through mailouts.I seriously recommend anyone who is not familiar with his work to definitely check it out.
    Below is a link to interview via Higher Side Chats The Sophianic Myth

    http://dl.gaiaspora.org/interviews/T...ril%202015.mp3

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    John Lash- The Sophianic Myth

    I think John Lash is a key factor in the dialogue of now. I found his work in 2008 through first listening to futureprimitive.org which led to his site metahistory.org and consequently
    gaiaspora.org. Now I receive his work through mailouts.I seriously recommend anyone who is not familiar with his work to definitely check it out.
    Below is a link to interview via Higher Side Chats The Sophianic Myth

    http://dl.gaiaspora.org/interviews/T...ril%202015.mp3
    If anyone reading this is interested in the most recent views of John Lash, please do look through this thread carefully:

    John Lash's Kalika war party


    In my very strong personal opinion, what is currently being promoted by John Lash has nothing whatsoever to do with the original teachings of Jesus (or any other profoundly inspired friend of humanity).


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    I respect your very strong personal opinion in regard to "John Lash's Kalika War Party" and I am not surprised that you respond this way, your choice. John Lash is one of the many voices of these present times.
    Has it occurred to you Bill Ryan that you may have some personal inner blocks which cloud the formulation of some of the strong personal opinions you hold not just your opinion in relation the "Kalika War Party"
    I also hold very strong personal opinions which I have formulated. They are mine by choice and absolutely not because of the influence of any man or woman.
    I think there are many things you have yet to learn.

    With Much Respect and Thanks for your input
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    Bill Ryan
    I respect your very strong personal opinion in regard to "John Lash's Kalika War Party" and I am not surprised that you respond this way, your choice. John Lash is one of the many voices of these present times.
    Has it occurred to you Bill Ryan that you may have some personal inner blocks which cloud the formulation of some of the strong personal opinions you hold not just your opinion in relation the "Kalika War Party"
    I also hold very strong personal opinions which I have formulated. They are mine by choice and absolutely not because of the influence of any man or woman.
    I think there are many things you have yet to learn.

    With Much Respect and Thanks for your input
    Bill
    "Personal blocks?" Where is this coming from? You haven't looked at the Kalika War Party thread (your name is not displayed in the list of members below the last post on a page, on a thread, who have viewed the thread. One can also see when a member viewed a thread by clicking on the name in the list).

    It is odd that you would come out with a judgement upon the thread without looking, no interest to see the data members have already been exposed to.

    This tends to kick start the radar around here, a close minded agenda coming out the gate from a brand new member...

    Yes, I know I am throwing a cat among the pigeons, but I believe I am making a fair point.

    Welcome to Avalon.

    Sierra
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    Sierra
    With respect

    I do not need to listen to the "Kalika War Party" this has been done sometime ago.
    Perhaps you need to look at the assumptions you have made in regard to me in your post

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    Quote Originally posted by Bill Ryan: "I've injected this comment in here (a bit of magic we can occasionally do ) to let members know/understand that the five posts which follow have been moved from another thread"
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    Quote Originally posted by Bill Ryan: "I've injected this comment in here (a bit of magic we can occasionally do ) to let members know/understand that the five posts which follow have been moved from another thread"
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    Darn, look at that! Here we are anyway...

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    Quote Posted by Sierra (here)
    Quote Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
    Quote Originally posted by Bill Ryan: "I've injected this comment in here (a bit of magic we can occasionally do ) to let members know/understand that the five posts which follow have been moved from another thread"
    Folding time/ space continum, Live demo
    Darn, look at that! Here we are anyway...
    It is the injection part, if done with percision then the first one pops as if out of nowhere with the announcement of what awaits, then the other five orderly appear..

    Prime travel!

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    Hey all. So, I came across the writings of John Lash and his Kalika war party. first, here's the web link:
    http://kalikawarparty.org/

    And here's an excerpt of the manifesto:

    The Kalika War Party is a planetary strike force comprised of men and women volunteers who self-select into 17 bands. A common aim unites the warriors in the Party: to strike offensively against all variations of the evil and corrupt System that works against life, truth, freedom, beauty, sanity, and the spirit of mutual aid. To this end, Kalika warriors are prepared to neutralize or eliminate the key agents who run the System at the executive levels, as well as their minions and accessories, when necessary. In this way, the KWP intends to bring down the System and prevent its recovery, once and for all.

    You really need to read all of it, plus the other sections regarding tactics and organizational structure to "get it"..but I was wondering what you all thought of this? I'm not crowdsourcing my personal opinion, but I'd like for everyone to take a hard look at this, and give your thoughts.

    /discuss

    It seems to me John missed the point completely!? He looked into the “Western gnosis” only and made himself an expert of it, without having a look into the Eastern gnosis. Yet, both of them would be complementary. The former one made itself busy with the archontic manipulations, while the later one was studying the structure of the human being and its potentials.

    In the later one, the human being is compared with a coach (Parable of the Coach) where the personality is the coachman which deals with a portion of the Mind component, the horses are the spirit, the carriage is the physical body and the passenger is the soul. The coachman, with which all of us indentify, is so called “False I” and he has a loaned existence. He is an illusion living in an illusion. If he would manage to integrate himself with the all components of the coach (the holy trinity), he would start living his life consciously as a real human being and he will become eternal.

    John is here just a coachman shooting in the dark and thinking that he knew what he was doing.

    Yet, so called “entropic forces” could be dealt with, however, that is something which only those integrated human beings could do effectively.

    ..

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    Quote Posted by workingactor (here)
    Hey all. So, I came across the writings of John Lash and his Kalika war party. first, here's the web link:
    http://kalikawarparty.org/

    And here's an excerpt of the manifesto:

    The Kalika War Party is a planetary strike force comprised of men and women volunteers who self-select into 17 bands. A common aim unites the warriors in the Party: to strike offensively against all variations of the evil and corrupt System that works against life, truth, freedom, beauty, sanity, and the spirit of mutual aid. To this end, Kalika warriors are prepared to neutralize or eliminate the key agents who run the System at the executive levels, as well as their minions and accessories, when necessary. In this way, the KWP intends to bring down the System and prevent its recovery, once and for all.

    You really need to read all of it, plus the other sections regarding tactics and organizational structure to "get it"..but I was wondering what you all thought of this? I'm not crowdsourcing my personal opinion, but I'd like for everyone to take a hard look at this, and give your thoughts.

    /discuss

    It seems to me John missed the point completely!? He looked into the “Western gnosis” only and made himself an expert of it, without having a look into the Eastern gnosis. Yet, both of them would be complementary. The former one made itself busy with the archontic manipulations, while the later one was studying the structure of the human being and its potentials.

    In the later one, the human being is compared with a coach (Parable of the Coach) where the personality is the coachman which deals with a portion of the Mind component, the horses are the spirit, the carriage is the physical body and the passenger is the soul. The coachman, with which all of us indentify, is so called “False I” and he has a loaned existence. He is an illusion living in an illusion. If he would manage to integrate himself with the all components of the coach (the holy trinity), he would start living his life consciously as a real human being and he will become eternal.

    John is here just a coachman shooting in the dark and thinking that he knew what he was doing.

    Yet, so called “entropic forces” could be dealt with, however, that is something which only those integrated human beings could do effectively.

    ..
    Or to take the idea of integrating Eastern gnosis and Western gnosis further still...
    The coachman has fallen asleep and an Archon has jumped onto the horse's back...

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    Quote Posted by Mnemosyne (here)
    John Lash- The Sophianic Myth

    I think John Lash is a key factor in the dialogue of now. I found his work in 2008 through first listening to futureprimitive.org which led to his site metahistory.org and consequently
    gaiaspora.org. Now I receive his work through mailouts.I seriously recommend anyone who is not familiar with his work to definitely check it out.
    Below is a link to interview via Higher Side Chats The Sophianic Myth

    http://dl.gaiaspora.org/interviews/T...ril%202015.mp3
    John Lash is a "key factor" in nothing; he is a legend in his own mind, as they say...nothing more.

    Why do I say that? Because I used to think and feel the same way you do about him. But then I got to know the man very, very personally and I learned that the only thing John Lash cares about is John Lash. The Sophianic Myth and the Kalika War Party are nothing but a way for him to draw recruits to his cult, which is a cult of John Lash, nothing more, as much as he would deny it: all the rest is window-dressing, designed to seduce and recruit the vulnerable, and the more money those vulnerable people have, the better.

    If you are not prepared to agree with John Lash 100% on everything, then its the highway for you, as many people have found out. If you are not prepared to let him bully and browbeat you, then its the highway for you. If you are not prepared to be a doormat and an unpaid household drudge for him, then its the highway for you. If you are not prepared to let him dictate your personality to you, then you are out. If you are not prepared to let him violate your boundaries, then its goodbye to you. Why? Because that is how he is: underneath his charm he is a total autocrat,
    ---------------------------
    au·to·crat

    /ˈôdəˌkrat/

    noun

    noun: autocrat; plural noun: autocrats

    a ruler who has absolute power.

    synonyms: absolute ruler, dictator, despot, tyrant
    "the former autocrat could be banned from traveling abroad while the investigation proceeds"

    •someone who insists on complete obedience from others; an imperious or domineering person.
    -------------------------------------
    and a total authoritarian...a narcissist who loves no one but himself. There is no such thing as mutuality in any cult...including Lash's cult...and no such thing as mutuality or power sharing with John Lash, no matter how much he wants you to believe that there is. Gurus do what they do (no matter what the pretense or rationale, in this case, the "Sophianic Mythos") for one reason and one reason only: to draw recruits and gain narcissistic supply, money and power (And notoriety. John Lash wants notoriety very, very badly).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_supply

    In the time that I was with him I saw John Lash seduce woman after woman with one goal in mind...to gain their money, services and sexuality and connections**. The first name he chose for Ambergane House was The Hetaira House,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetaira

    which is very revealing and ought tell you something.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Juanism

    All cults look wonderful from the outside: they would not be able to recruit anyone if they did not. But when you get on the inside, its a whole different story, and when you get personal with the guru it gets even worse.

    So I'll tell you what: you give him your life savings, like I did, and then see how he treats you after the money is gone. Get to know him very, very personally, like I did, and see how he treats you. If you last a year I would be very, very surprised.

    **When I left him, in October of 2014, he was angling for a couple of billionaire's nieces.
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    Sierra
    With respect

    I do not need to listen to the "Kalika War Party" this has been done sometime ago.
    Perhaps you need to look at the assumptions you have made in regard to me in your post
    Sierra did not say that you should listen to the Kalika War Party. She said that you should read this thread, which is entitled "John Lash's Kalika War Party".

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    Sierra
    With respect

    I do not need to listen to the "Kalika War Party" this has been done sometime ago.
    Perhaps you need to look at the assumptions you have made in regard to me in your post
    Hi Mnemosyne, welcome to Avalon.
    Just to mention maybe you misunderstood Sierra she was not refering to 'the kalika war party' itself but to this thread. Many here have seen a disturbing pattern emerge from what was otherwise a good distribution of the Gnostic Sophia knowledge (in the beginning). My own experience was the same, a change in JLL material occured quite some time ago maybe around 2-3 years, and it seems it is very easy to incrementally by degrees change direction 180 degrees from the initial intent, conscious or not.
    "Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves" C. G. Jung

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    Oops sry Silkie repeating you in my above post, whilst writing it you posted about the misunderstanding.
    "Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves" C. G. Jung

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    Oops sry Silkie repeating you in my above post, whilst writing it you posted about the misunderstanding.
    No problem, Gardener

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    Quote Posted by Gardener (here)
    ...Many here have seen a disturbing pattern emerge from what was otherwise a good distribution of the Gnostic Sophia knowledge (in the beginning). My own experience was the same, a change in JLL material occured quite some time ago maybe around 2-3 years, and it seems it is very easy to incrementally by degrees change direction 180 degrees from the initial intent, conscious or not.
    (emphasis mine)

    Knowing John Lash as well as I do, I have to say that his intent was always to do just that...change direction 180 degrees without anyone realizing what he was doing. This is standard behavior for a certain kind of personality,

    http://180rule.com/psychopaths-girar...-the-180-rule/

    He did it to me on a personal level, and now he has done on the collective level it to everyone else who follows him.

    an addition Please pay special attention to the subheading entitled "Sacrificial Preparation" in the article I linked to, above.
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    The funny thing is, does anyone really think that the PTB don't know exactly who John Lash's followers are? Such a thing is child's play to them! Of course they know! And if this absurd "magic" called "the lethal strike" actually worked, the PTB would just send drones to kill everyone on JLL's mailing list, whether they've done any "lethal strike" cordings or not, and whether any cordings can be traced to any particular person or not. Hell, they may even drone-strike their friends and relatives, as well, just an object lesson. Lucky for his followers that there is no chance in hell that the "lethal strike" can actually work.

    p.s. Outside of the "lethal strike", which is total bull****, the Kalika War Party is just an excuse to be a punk.

    an addition I'll even go it one better and say that I would bet that the PTB, if they are paying any attention to John Lash at all, are laughing their ***** off at him and his followers. I mean, how hilarious...John Lash has all these gullible, desperate, vulnerable people thinking that they can kill them (the power elite) off with string and rusty nails! What a hoot! If I were a member of the power elite, I would want MORE lunatics like John Lash in the world! Then even more people would be drawn into magical thinking, rendering the public even more ineffectual than they are already!
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    I am adding this link in response to the information posted by Silkie

    Stripping the Gurus

    http://www.strippingthegurus.com/

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    Not to mention his promulgation of racial hatred.

    Hate.

    Bad stuff.

    Humph.

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