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    Thanks Ilie:

    As I have written, the first life on Earth was chemosynthetic, and there is some of that happening today (less than 0.001% of life on Earth today lives that way), but even they are dependent on the Sun's energy. Yes, with FE, humanity could break away from having to make it on the Sun's budget, raiding ancient sunlight (hydrocarbons), raiding the energy of collapsing stars (via nuclear fission), and "roll their own." No, nothing lives off of heat (if you get into molecular biology and understand the reactions at the cellular level, you realize that life has no way to capture heat to power biology, like heat engines do), although the hot environments that some extremophiles live in reduces the activation energy needed for chemical reactions, so it likely helps.

    What is kind of funny about that Road's World scene is that those bubbles are made of FE and move via FE, but yes, the grain is "powered" by sunlight. Nothing wrong with sunlight, but other than the food energy of that grain (I'll bet that there is plenty of food grown with artificial light in that world, and recall that it is only 300 years into our future; what would 5,000 years into our future look like, or a million years? How many become Level 19s that far out?), those human societies run on FE. Humans no longer exploit animals in that world, and yes, the plants are fulfilled by interacting with people. This is the power of love at work, and you can be forgiven for having a hard time imagining it.

    My little tale of Andra makes some speculations about those questions that you ask. I certainly do not have all the answers, but I know that in that Roads World, people stop preying on each other, too, and for me, that is the outcome of FE that I think that almost all people (except the psychopaths) would welcome. I was in an exchange at Spectrum on this issue recently.

    On a technical/scientific level, humans have changed the evolutionary game in radical ways already. Domesticating plants and animals has created vast changes never seen before. Genetic engineering is more radical still. Both of those Roads worlds had genetic engineering, and one was done with love, and the other via greed and indifference. The key, as I see it, is love or fear, and I won’t wax too mystically here, but as love is the energy of creation, what horizons come into play, what games change at their very roots, when we choose love over fear? That is why my Fifth Epochal Event is all about. This is also behind my speculation that the ZPF is divine in nature, which has been getting batted around here the past few days.

    This is a big, big, subject, and I invite you to explore it here (and at my forum ), and it is good work to realize when you are projecting scarcity and fear onto a situation of love and abundance. For me, one of the most fascinating aspects of the loving Roads world was how a sentient humanity partnered with nature. Conversing with trees? Sign me up!

    What I think is pretty certain, however, is that without FE, those horizons will not come into view. Yesterday, I wrote about that Stanford plan, and, believe me, if a plan like that was really feasible, my younger self, and even Brian's and Dennis's, would have eagerly signed up, but we found out about the Big Game being played, which makes windmills and solar panels seem like child's play.

    To me, whether Godzilla continues to sit on his throne or not is all about love and energy, and this is another instance where I say that love and FE are joined at the hip. Yes, no longer being dependent on sunlight for our energy, either today's sunlight or the sunlight of hundreds of millions of years ago, or energy captured billions of years ago, is going to be something new. How "natural" is that? What is nature? These are big questions, and IMO, as long as they are approached via love, all will be well. If they are approached via fear, then look out.

    To your last question, when that grain is eaten by humans and what the grain gets from it, the grain's "soul" has an increase in awareness by becoming part of a sentient species. There is plenty of mystical material that deals with this, and also discusses the cycles of predation, in which lions and gazelles keep incarnating, with each "soul" trading places, as they play their predator/prey game. According to the mystical teachings, lessons are being learned that way, just like humanity is learning lessons by being preyed on by Godzilla (or parasited, take your pick), but is it the only game? No, as our souls evolve, the fear game eventually gives way to the love game. Hey, if people want to live in fear and scarcity, where I kill you, then you kill me, and we do that forever, trading places each round, that is their right. But also, many mystical sources state that Earth is tired of hosting "kill-or-be-killed," partly because humans in thrall to that game are killing the planet. Heck, even an alleged archangel told me that Earth has put out the word, that souls who want to come into the light can stay, but those who want to keep playing kill-or-be-killed are going to be relocated to a new planet, so they can keep doing it (you will not want to take your vacations there ) This is a very common mystical/channeled theme. True? Beats me. I just have some inklings of what FE's transformative potential is, and I want to live to see that transformation begin. Call me selfish.

    Not sure if I will make another post today, as I will be busy. We'll see what the evening brings.

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    I just found out how Godzilla and girlfriend get their kicks.
    There may yet be a way out of this....


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    You raise some big points Ilie. Thank you for that post. But (my now standard disclaimer) my response isn't aimed at you, more a combination of direct response and connected thoughts.

    Quote "For the first time, we will have a new energy source that is not the Sun. I ponder what the implications of this may be? Would this create a huge disconnect between our species and the "rest of Nature"? Virtually everything else would still need the Sun's energy, but not us! Will we drag along Nature with us?"
    I imagine a lot of people ponder this. I've thought about it myself. Life forms feeding off each other on earth are tied into an ecosystem connected with the sun. Many 'spiritual' sources, past and present, speak of the sun not just as a source of physical energy but as a consciousness to be interacted with. I resonate with that perspective, personally, in the same way that I apply it to the cosmos as a whole. The sun is simply the closest, vast and visible, luminous entity of its kind while we are homed on earth. Even in an FE world of abundance, I foresee countless generations on earth basking in solar rays and soaking up energy/wisdom, just as the ability to create new nutritional supplements wouldn't prevent you from choosing a spiritual experience in growing a tree from a seed and enjoying the juice of its fruit.

    I think it comes down to your outlook. Even those who would run into the arms of a self-imposed technological haven because they had never felt love for the systems of the earth, would have a hard time adapting overnight to a life without the sun, or indeed in space. To adapt to a sunless world on a spiritual path is a different matter. But if you are doing that, you may already be connecting with cosmic sources of energy other than the sun, and moving away from the more average needs of the body and physicality in general.

    I think many people who immerse themselves in technology now, detrimentally to their health, have been influenced by a culture of scarcity. For example, a lot of people who immerse themselves in e.g. computer games, or in penthouses devoid of plants, may simply be shutting themselves off from the world because they have been wounded by it or are aware (consciously or otherwise) of how they are wounding it with the way they have attained their wealth. Would they choose that path of disconnection in a world of abundance? Or would they, instead, develop technologies and lifestyles that worked far more in harmony with frequencies that resonate with the earth or the sun, and other life forms? What technologies can be imagined and supported by a culture of abundance may also be vastly different, and more harmonious with the divine beauty of earth, than what is available now.

    If we begin, over generations, to glean energy from other sources, we may also begin to connect with other lifeforms in the cosmos who have left behind, or perhaps never known, a solar dependency. Just as someone emigrating from the equator to the North leaves behind the personalities of tropical trees for, say, Icelandic ones, finds a new set of vibrations with which to converse, we are capable of adapting to newness. But that doesn't mean we stop loving the fragrance and frequency of the trees and landscapes and native forms we knew before. If, on some level, we still fear that whatever is out there, beyond our beloved solar system and solar energy, may not be as loveable as what we have known here, that is all the more reason to create a balanced FE world to safeguard our heaven on earth.

    I like the idea of solar-panels (even ones far more advanced that what we see on the shelves) being a gentle, "free energy" transition technology to ease us in before we tap the ZPF. But aside from the intermittency and location issues associated with it, I'm reminded of something Wade mentioned in a post on another thread, referring to the inventor Adam Trombly :

    Quote "Brian was one of the early advocates of space-based solar-collectors, asteroid mining, and other NASA-style solutions. He eventually left that all behind, for various reasons, but he came to the conclusion that the traditional alternatives were too little and too late. In Adam’s interviews with Scott: ...[...]... you can hear him say that the solar panels at his facilities are good transitional technologies, but that there is not enough time to cycle through those to FE."
    ( Post #284, What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy/page15 )

    So much as it may seem logical, and more humble/modest, to wish for a softer transitional energy technology, linking us to the sun and the elements, we are not living in times of soft transition as far as safeguarding the ecosystem is concerned. We have transitioned rapidly, technologically, since the industrial revolution, with developing nations wanting to catch up with the freedom from drudgery that we in the West have enjoyed. We can do that with FE. Given governments' (or whatever entities sit beyond them) reluctance to take us off fossil fuels into a genuine and sustainable clean energy culture, it does make me wonder what alternative there is to putting FE in the hands of individuals to begin creating that culture independently. If some people would rather fear it and choose austerity, due to fear of a backlash, or irresponsible usage, that is their choice. But I hear Wade on the notion that most people would be glad of FE once it was delivered to their door. We have been taught to fear each other, and yet the very system that has taught us that is destroying us while we are busy fearing one another.

    Quote "If we manage to stop our own mass extinction, what about other species on the planet today? Will we "conserve them"? Restore and maintain their environment? Will we put the entire planet in a form of "stasis" where nothing ever goes extinct? Is that desirable?"
    We can have mobile living and working environments that connect us more with earth's environment, whilst also keeping us safe (more so than today) from its dangers. Do some people worry that FE levels of power would give us a power-complex, and we would drastically alter earth's environment and the course of evolution for other species? We're doing that now, without FE, and destroying our only habitat. An FE world that is less conducive to competition is one in which a sense of the earth, of her species, and of balance, can potentially emerge and grow to new levels within us all - psychically, emotionally and mentally. That's how I visualise it.

    The path of connecting to earth and managing its resources sustainably, is not one that has been walked by significant numbers of us in developed countries – so for whatever reasons, we are not adapted to living harmoniously in the trees. The scarcity in our system does not bring out the best in us, so how do we create a source of self-sufficiency and abundance that can repair the damage done, and lead us to balance? We may well, as a result of an FE culture, begin to shun outward technology in favour of our own internal abilities. But for now, there are many people who are not adept with or even aware of that option, and FE can provide a transition for them so we do not destroy our environment before they are even given a chance. Destroying our environment and leaving waste to fester is not exactly great karma, even if we choose austerity and the dwindling of our species over FE.

    Quote "As I write this I am realizing that this is "scarcity talk" again . My assumption is that evolution, as we know it today, was driven by scarcity. That "war of nature" idea that you mentioned. My further assumption is that in an energy rich environment there will be no "reason" or motivator force to evolve or to change... because there will no longer be the imperative to adapt.

    I think this is so because I am not familiar with Love as an impulse to evolve and change. I only know of the carrot and the stick approach.”
    The carrot and the stick is a mode of learning we've all been subjected to. It's just how it is. I'm the same. But I have had glimmers of when love leads the way. Shaping my intentions and motivation. It is a more subtle feeling, yet simultaneously makes my world feel bigger and more at ease. I feel, in a sense, more connected with the universe and my own place within it. It is like a guiding light that reminds me regularly of how astonishing this world could be, if we step outside of the extremes of competition that our system is currently perpetuating. That starts with dismantling our economic dependencies, which starts with having the energy systems to sustain ourselves.

    Quote "Decaying, getting "old" and changing form (your body) may eventually become a conscious process where you will be a willing participant in this cycle, rather than be forced to participate, as it is today. Perhaps many energy cycles in nature will become much more consciously enabled rather that running on "automatic" as they seem to be doing in this paradigm. "
    Agreed. Humanity and other species can raise our vibration and choose more conscious involvement in our own evolution. The world we've made is currently stressing other species. Just imagine what their world and ours will begin to feel like, when the predominant frequency of billions of men and women is that of love


    Post Update : With a Vision

    With FE we can take people out of slums and decaying tower blocks, and green small pockets of the desert to create a shared paradise, with waterfalls that recycle themselves, and vegetable farms and abundant fruit trees in mobile green houses. Every day you could swim in life-giving waters, and read beneath the trees. Sharing nightly walks beneath the stars, in meditative solitude, or in telepathic conference with community around you. Either way, there is bliss to be known.

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    Hi Wade,

    I would first make an apology to your readers. I was to dogmatic upon a view that I took in my last post. And it was about the nature of energy and contentiousness and the way that I proposed a personal opinion to be a fact.

    Which came first the chicken or the egg?

    The truth is probably closer to both combined in some way.

    And of course I would say the end game to FE is to put a device in every home and let that run its course...but to get from where we are right now to where we need to go we need to build this choir and so if I understand little the little that I do understand is that this is a good idea...the choir.

    Hey Wade, when I was a young evangelical the priesthood said that it was important to read the bible from one end to the other and so I did that many times. Am I comparing your grand essay to the bible? Well, the writers of the bible gave up their search for truth long before they wrote that book. Does the Bible contain truth? Absolutely...but censored...and omitted...and to the channalers...

    Why can I not read their opinions(the channalers) upon how the world works or to read the Bible or the Koran what so is the difference?
    I am reading the RA material and yet it is fascinating for now and is it truth? What is truth?

    What about the nature of that article that I posted from Jay and his analysis?

    Haughty? yes..he is a theologian...and his specialty is the conspiracy.

    He is one who came forward to expose what he was taught in school.

    and so to expose conspiracy will bring about free energy or the halt to the destruction of our world?

    http://jaysanalysis.com/about/

    Just the kind of guy or those like him that we need right here...just saying...and a big as it were...

    And again maybe we don't need their elk and so Jesus did say to love ones enemies.....as it were...

    yet his fate is that to wake up one day and say all is folly...

    and a member of this choir will not suffer that fate....

    I only posted that article for discussion.

    And yes Wade I am working upon these really big picture issues.

    You and your readers and posters have simply helped me a lot.


    thanx

    Nine
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    Wade,

    I would like to ask you about the internet.

    You do know that it is an invention of the American military?

    Me thinks that it has spirailed out of their controll...and we have a chance to make a difference...

    sorry to put it in such warrior terms...

    And this is a personal opinion.

    New energy is upon us. from where I do not know and so the energy has come and we look from within for this energy.

    is the human re-action to energy a form of energy?

    reacting to energy?

    and more questions and few answers...

    thanx wade

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    Hi:

    Nine, anybody is welcome to read and digest my material. Again, no group on Earth is going to become choir material, as all groups are devoted to their particular flavor of scarcity, so that it short-circuits their comprehension of abundance. Even all the FE groups I have seen are in the scarcity mode, as they doggedly pursue all of those paths of failure. Conspiracists and I rarely see eye-to-eye. The people that I seek are going to be needles in haystacks, stray people who are not satisfied with their in-group ideology and see how it stunts their groups' views. When they embrace the message of my work, they are usually ruined as members of their in-group as they no longer drink the scarcity-flavored Kool-Aid, and those who try to awaken their in-group to my message will usually find themselves ostracized. That is part of the peril of my work.

    Again, any channeled material, including Ra, can only be food for thought. Ra is pretty cool stuff, some of the best channeled work that I have encountered, but it is no substitute for personal experience.

    Yes, the military invented the Internet, and yes, they are not in control of it like they wish they were, but anybody thinking that they can use it anonymously is a fool. The Internet is their turf.

    To all, I sat down to write a post on the generalist kinds of connections that my big essay is intended to help my readers see.

    Darwin's tree of life is a very important idea, one of the most battle-tested ideas in the history of science, and has been used profitably in other areas, such as the study of language and religion, to trace their descent relationships. What is fascinating about those trees is how you can see various branches and what is on the end of them today, and how many early portions of the branches still exist today. For instance, all plants have chloroplasts that are descended from cyanobacteria, which are everywhere on Earth today, producing oxygen from their photosynthesis. They formed colonies billions of years ago, and in a few places on Earth, those colonies can still grow. So, we can get a window into the past by studying those cyanobacterial colonies, and we can also see their descendants that make almost all of Earth's above-ground biomass possible. So, we can see the base of the branch and its ends. A biologist will say that today's cyanobacteria are not identical to those from three billion years ago, as there has been some genetic change, but their function has not appreciably changed, which means that there has likely been little significant genetic change, if any.

    Some branches, such as the one that the nautilus lives on, has no close cousins alive and is called a living fossil in certain corners. But their ancestors litter the fossil record, so scientists can trace their development and also trace how they found an ecosystem niche and have remained in it for hundreds of millions of years.

    With the rise of DNA testing, many mysteries of the human journey are being illuminated. For instance, Negritos appear to be isolated relict populations of the original migration of behaviorally modern humans from Africa. There are relict groups that stayed behind in Africa and became isolated, and the click-languages of those peoples are likely what language sounded like when humans migrated from Africa at least 50,000 years ago. Australian aborigines are the largest isolated group from the original migration and they never adopted agriculture, which gave us a window into the human past, of how people lived before agriculture. All of those groups also had strikingly similar religious practices, which gives us a window into humanity's original religion.

    So, scientists can study the founders (or something very close to the founders) and their descendants, and studying root and branch like that has led to a great deal of insight into the past of life on Earth and the human journey. The investigations never end, but many insights have been derived from those studies that not only help us understand our past and present better, but can also serve as a guide to what the future can look like. Much of my visionary chapter can really only be understood in the context of the earlier parts of the essay. In fact, the essay can be considered a 400-page preparation for that visionary chapter.

    For instance, there are all sorts of people who worship the past and think that it can be some sort of ideal that we should strive for. The "paleo" people are like that, thinking that the hunter-gatherer diet is the human ideal. They, and people with pastoral/farmer fantasies, strangely attack vegetarians, and one way to look at it is the Old Time Religion attacking upstart "heretics."

    I often see people play the "nature" or "human nature" card when arguing for why FE is impossible or undesirable. Again, you often have to see it to believe it. There is nothing "natural" about a farm, a city, a road, and many other aspects of human civilization, but people treat the familiar as "natural," when that is the furthest thing from being the case. There are all sorts of "harmony with nature" advocates who look at hunter-gatherers, villagers, and the like as living in harmony with nature, as if it is some ideal to strive for. The human line has not lived in "harmony" with nature since the control of fire. Hunter-gatherers initiated the Sixth Mass Extinction as they drove all of Earth's easy meat to extinction. While there was a brief period of village life (which we can still see in some relict populations), and women had high status in those horticultural populations, due to their economic contribution, they were also not in harmony with nature, not by any means. While studying the past can lead to useful insights, worshipping some golden age that never really existed, or could not exist for long, is not very helpful, IMO.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    I am going to make a little vignette addendum on the so-called "activism" of people in the FE milieu and why I am taking my approach. Those previous vignettes were about my lessons on the high road. This will be on what happened when we reached out to other groups, the public at large, and the like. Dennis and Brian did it, I carried their spears while they did it, I did it plenty myself over the years, watched fellow travelers do it, traded notes with them, watched other efforts, tried to advise them (usually unsuccessfully, as they had to go out and learn the hard way), and it took many years for it to finally sink in with me. None of us wanted to admit what we were seeing, as it meant that our efforts were likely doomed: the vast majority of people simply do not care. It was the primary lesson of my journey, and I resisted it every step of the way. Nearly everybody's awareness generally stops at the limits of their immediate self-interest. So it is, in a world of scarcity and battling for survival.

    I probably cannot overstate the impact of my Seattle stint with Dennis. After the electric interests had destroyed the company, I watched my boss help engineer the theft of the company while the employees cheered. Even the "loyalists" became extortionists, and I watched several groups fight over the company's carcass that summer. I began waking up fast, but those events were only a gentle preview of what was coming.

    In Boston, my learning curve began to steepen, and here is an anecdote that I don't think that I told before. In those early days after our first greatest energy shows, I drove Dennis around to various appointments. One was to that radio show taping that never aired. Today, I'll bet that "talking to a Senator" comment had to do with us. Another trip was to the science advisor of the environmental group that was protesting the nuclear plant, which we later learned was part of a ploy by the group's funder. The advisor was trying to be helpful and told us about members of the group, and I'll always remember his description of one of the most visible members. The advisor said that the man might be open to our effort, but that his primary motivation was a hatred for nuclear energy. The man seemed to relish protesting. I think that was my first encounter with that kind of mentality, and it would not be my last. Many people are into the "protest" experience, in a kind of oppositional defiant disorder way. As one friend said one day, they are part of "complaint-based" activism. I found that to be characteristic of the Left, environmentalists, and many progressives, which is a far cry from the "combined positive intention" that Brian advocated late in his life.

    Dennis and I were always about answers, not protest, and witnessing the protestor mentality was educational. Our response to the protestors was that the best way to fight nuclear power was to make it obsolete. That kind of fell on deaf ears.

    My cognitive dissonance was becoming great, as I tried to understand what I was seeing. When Dennis found the program that worked in Ventura, while we emphasized the environmental and macroeconomic effects of FE, most people got involved for the business opportunity. That was always the crux of Dennis's programs: the lure of self-interest, which always generated the most interest. After the Ventura nightmare and my radicalization, nothing about human behavior could ever surprise me again. My mother's "my son the crook" scrapbook tour did not even rise to the level of a nuisance. After Ventura, Dennis tried the Madison Avenue approach, and while his ad was amusing (the ad had a woman cutting her utility line, which harkened back to our Boston days), I really wondered what he would accomplish, with late-night TV watchers of infotainment channels.

    In those years, I began to reach out to people such as Noam Chomsky, and did not find any takers. After several years of deep study on the array of topics that became my website, Dennis began barnstorming the USA at the same time as Brian began to play the Paul Revere of FE. After several years of trying, Dennis finally recruited me back into his effort, and he admitted to me, unlike a decade earlier, when he said that people cared but had not worth caring about, that almost nobody really cared, but he was sifting through humanity's mine tailings, looking for gold nuggets.

    In that same year of 1996, I put up my first website, and had my email address on it and took on all comers, nearly continually, until early 2002, when the USA's craziness in the wake of 9/11 finally spurred me to stop interacting with the public. I was reaching out to the Left, environmentalists, and progressives in those days, while Dennis was barnstorming and Brian was playing Paul Revere. The next year, Greer held those UFO hearings. In 2001, the month before 9/11, I heard from a sobered Brian about how his ride as Paul Revere went: he began openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species. In the same conversation, he told me about his brush with death, and I told him about my pal's underground technology show, which did not surprise him at all.

    I am only hitting the highlights of a fifteen-year period of disillusionment, radicalization, reaching out to environmentalists, "radicals," progressives, and the like, as I was struggling to understand what I was seeing. Virtually everybody had some reason for denying FE's possibility, desirability, potential, and the like. It was a mind-boggling experience, and I was so primed for encountering Bucky Fuller's work in 2003, and suddenly, not only had the paradigm that I had been groping toward for nearly 30 years become clear, but I also saw what all of those reactions of fear, denial, and dismissal had in common: everybody was addicted to scarcity. It became even clearer a few months later, as I contacted the Peak Oilers, and the same progressives who laid out the red carpet to Heinberg would not give Brian and NEM the time of day. The hippest environmentalist I ever met was on NEMs' board, and he was on a first-name basis with all of the big names in environmentalism. Guess how his efforts to attract their interest turned out?

    Several years later, I heard from an activist who has been writing about FE since the 1970s, and he informed me that environmental groups had all regarded FE as the enemy since the 1970s, as their ideology was diametrically opposed to the idea of abundant energy. Their "solutions" were all variations of austerity. By that time, hearing that was no surprise, as that was all I had seen come from environmentalists and progressives for many years.

    This vignette will run into at least one more post, as it is time for bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Here is the rest of that activism vignette. After reading Fuller, my writings became more consciously comprehensive, and it was really the beginning of my studies that resulted in my big essay. Virtually all of my activist and comprehensive essays were written in that interval, during my "spare" time after I resumed my career. Oh, my long-suffering wife! I can never make it up to her, being married to a man on my path. We all had long-suffering wives, and without them, we would have fallen by the wayside. Dennis's wife saved his life many times.

    The NEM experience was a disaster for Brian and me, and I decided then that I would never be a part of somebody else's FE effort again. I repeatedly rejected Dennis's and Brian's offers to get me back in the saddle with them, as they kept trying things. By that time, I had very little optimism for what they were attempting, which were all Level 10 or quasi-Level 7 efforts. I still helped Brian, however, when he asked for it and it was not something that threatened to wreck my life, and Brian's influence led to my first published interviews. Even though I went quiet for years after the NEM fiasco, I could not help but stay aware of developments in the field, as my circle of friends and associates constantly contacted me with news of the inventor of the hour, etc. It was all a barrage of approaches that have not worked and likely never would, but newcomers to the field doggedly pursued all of those paths of failure, or they embraced "skeptics" while attacking Brian and Dennis, and the rest of that circus. That libelous essay written in 2001 had a life of its own, as I continually had my face rubbed in it, as people either handed it to me as an example of great writing on the FE milieu (!) or even defended the libel by attacking Dennis. It went beyond irritating to becoming surreal, like some nightmarish parade of naïveté, denial, low integrity, greed, and the like that would never end.

    When my nightmare of a midlife crisis finally began waning in late 2006, thanks to Dennis (although that was not his intention), my current approach began to form. This article that I read while writing this post, that the biggest criminals in the USA enforce the laws, has a message that middle-class Americans are just beginning to learn. Smedley Butler learned it at the international level in the 1930s, and I learned it domestically in the 1980s. Protecting the public, both domestically and internationally, is the biggest protection racket of all. The genocide in Southeast Asia was supposedly to save the world from communism, which people such as Ralph McGehee discovered was a big lie. I could provide many examples of that dynamic, unfortunately. I finally had it pounded into my head: evil-minded people manage the human herd, and humanity desires the herd management, as they have abdicated their responsibility for the world they live in as they play the victim. Again, this was my journey's primary lesson, which was poured onto me from many directions for many years. It was like I finally said, to that voice in my head, "Uncle! OK, I get it. So, now what?" Again, I have not wanted to hear from that voice since 2002 and have not asked for it, but I can tell that my "friends" are constantly pulling on the strings of my life's journey. The question was really for me, as I constantly rolled around all that information in my head, trying to solve the riddle. Slowly, oh so slowly, my approach began to take shape, as I integrated more than 30 years of experiences and study after I first got my energy dreams. Again, without those experiences, I would have never come upon my approach, and it is one reason why very few people can comprehend it. But that is OK. I do not seek the 99.9+% of people who will not and cannot understand, but the needles in haystacks who do or are willing to learn, and they are out there. I have yet to encounter any of them who have my kind of experiences, but I don't need that and do not seek that. Dennis and Brian had my greatest respect in the field, and when I told them about what I was trying, they both recognized that it was something different, and they were intrigued. Brian was more than intrigued and planned to promote my approach soon before he died. I think that Brian was still thinking in Level 10 terms, but he was planning to cast the net and see what he could catch. In my own way, I am continuing that process.

    Darren is one of those needles, and he learned how rare he was when he tried to interest his off-grid community in FE and my work and approach. A few in Darren's community already knew who Dennis was and had even been involved with him (which is typical for all North American off-grid and intentional communities - Darren's is far from the only, and I have heard from several of them over the years), but Darren found that in general, nobody was really interested, and if they were not interested, where in the world would people be? Darren lived in a community that one would think would be the most receptive to the FE idea, but almost all that he encountered was fear and denial, with one of his friends being an avid Level 5. But I found Darren!

    I had to really work on Darren and Ilie, to convince them that they have what I am looking for. They cared and they tried, and did not realize how precious that is. That is the gold of this field, and I really can't ask for any more. Yes, they did not go through the meat grinder like I did, and learn those highly painful lessons that are not easy to survive with one's sanity intact, but I don't need that. If they are awake and are willing to learn from somebody who survived the meat grinder, and are willing to do the deep work that I think is necessary to develop comprehensive perspectives, then they are exactly what I am looking for. I also designed what I am doing so they do not have to risk their lives. Nobody needs to play the hero for my plan to work, if I can find enough needles and train them. But almost all of my pupils need to be ready to give up what they think they know. They have to empty the cup of the poison before it can be filled with the good stuff.

    Almost all of what people think they know, which is almost always counterproductive for what I am attempting, is almost never something that they learned from experience, but is what they were indoctrinated into believing and what they got both barrels of from all sides for their entire lives. But once they saw through one of the paradigmatic lies, almost always erected on the scarcity assumption, then the others would be easier to see through. Those frameworks are also all egocentric and designed to foster in-group "cohesion," and everybody is fed it from a young age, so it is very insidious and not easy to recognize, like unseen furniture in our minds, assumptions that we are trained to not even be aware of, much less question, as vices get turned into virtues and lessons that we were taught by age five are discarded for adult "understandings" that are entirely bereft of integrity. That unquestioned allegiance to those egocentric assumptions was largely behind Brian's question if we are really a sentient species.

    So, the hunt for needles begins. SL stumbled into my work years ago and does not think that he has the right stuff, but all of those with the right stuff are not sure that they have it, and those who are sure that they have it almost never do (the traps of the ego). SL hopes to attract at least one other rad lefty to my work, and if he reels in just one, he will be doing well. Similarly, Freeknowledge came to my work around 15 years ago and encouraged me to go fishing in the Free Software Movement, and I interacted with its biggest name, to no avail. Freeknowledge thinks that I could have done better with my approach to them, and he just nominated himself to be the person to try. We will see how he does, and as with SL, if he can truly interest one other member of that movement to go deep on my work and become choir material, he will be doing well. I know that things like this start small. I don’t ever plan to have my work become a bandwagon (as that always attracts the people with the wrong stuff), but when the choir gets going, it should create harmonic effects that will attract people who have been pining for that song for their entire lives, and a kind of snowball effect will begin. But I had to write the hymnal first, which my site comprises.

    I get plenty of catcalls for my approach from the peanut gallery (usually from anonymous cowards), and that troll festival after I joined Scott's forum, after his invitation, is typical of what I have encountered over the years, which is why I planned to create my own forum back in 2007, after having trolls chew on me for months, to only then be expelled from the leading conspiracist forum of the day. Conspiracists don't really have what I am looking for, nor do New Agers, and so on. No group really has what I am looking for, as they are all have their scarcity-based in-group ideologies that they orient themselves around, which stunts their perspective, and I have not seen one of them yet gain any true comprehension of abundance. But they all have Darrens, Ilies, SLs, and Freeknowledges in them, who, to one degree or another, realize that their in-group really does not see the big picture. When they find my work, they realize that it is something different, and they always have to go through the sobering realization that their in-groups do not quite have it, as the members all have allegiance to their ideological assumptions, which are always rooted in scarcity and are either blatantly or subtly egocentric.

    I have made it easy for them to go fishing in their in-groups, as they can just send their pals a link to my big essay and wait and see what happens. With world-class scientists and scholars raving over my work, it is not easy to call it crazy, and if my pupils are careful, they will not risk their in-group status by poking around here and there with some of their close pals, but will only be seen as a little nutty at worst. That is a primary intention behind my site's writings. Not many are willing or able to digest my message, but the needles will, and when FE is delivered into the lives to the masses, they will begin to awaken from the nightmare of scarcity. That is my approach, in a nutshell. I have designed it to not only be low on Godzilla's radar, but it will be very difficult to stop with his usual methods. If I can find enough people with the right stuff who do the work and heed my guidance, FE will be laughably easy to bring to the world. Finding those needles will be the hard part, but I have designed what I am doing so that I don't need money and can approach it the way that I am today for the next 30 years or so, as long as my health holds out. I only need to find one-in-a-million for my plan to work, and I like those odds, and what kind of dent can my pals and I make over the next 30 years? I look forward to finding out.

    My busy day now begins, and we will see if I can make another post today.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    While hiking today, I had my first berries of the season: huckleberries and salmonberries. Somebody has to do it! You can see the red huckleberries in the riot of green in the attached. That is what the forest in my backyard looks like in an epic drought year. Also attached is the picture of the forest floor that I hike through. This is just meat and potatoes stuff around here, but I could easily hike in it for the rest of my life. High country visits are coming soon, and my meadow visit last weekend is just a warmup. I visit a mountain lake tomorrow. When I was hiking today, the trail I hiked was used for a running event (not competitive, but for fun and getting out in the glorious woods), so I was being passed by runners all morning. Very nice, greeting the runners. I could still get off their path and get solitude, and I did that, too.

    While hiking, I get many ideas for forum posts. With the subject material of my site, I could never run out of topics to write about, and today I made quite a list of future topics. Most are familiar topics, and today I want to write a little about FE, scarcity, abundance, choice, and the human potential.

    One of the primary motivations of my writing a visionary chapter like this is to show people the kind of world that we can have with FE and abundance. The austerity that Peak Oilers and environmentalists sell is about as dreary as I can imagine. Who wants to sign up for a 90% depopulation of Earth in the near future because we ran out of energy? No wonder Peak Oiler Michael Ruppert killed himself in a bout of despair. What was really bizarre about Ruppert and Heinberg was that both were/are conspiracy theorists of the first order, with Ruppert writing a tome that made the case that 9/11 was an inside job, which Heinberg endorsed, but neither could seem to fathom organized suppression of FE. Why ever would global elites try to suppress FE? On one hand, they attribute highly nefarious motives to the global elite, but cannot imagine them being willing or able to suppress disruptive technologies, FE being chief among them.

    I have seen hundreds of flavors of the fear and denial that comes up when FE is even mentioned, and I see it from materialists, "mystics," and all callings and walks of life. One of the most common objections is that life on Earth is supposed to be hellish, and heaven on Earth would obviate the entire reason for being here. But comfortable Westerners are always the people making such statements, as far as I have seen. This future Earth that Michael Roads allegedly visited has just as much evidence for it as all of those "mystical" reasons for why Earth needs to be a hellish existence. Do the people in that world live lives bereft of meaning? Are any of them suicidal? There is truly almost nothing uplifting happening on Earth today, as everybody sings the song of scarcity. That song is not a pretty one. So, my work is, to a great degree, giving people an alternative to gloom, doom, and scarcity.

    I also get clever arguments for why Godzilla should continue to run things, believe it or not. I'll agree with this, however: while humanity sleeps, predator/parasites like Godzilla will reign. In that negative world that Roads visited, Godzilla was completely enthroned, even more so than he is today. That is the kind of world that the Godzillas of Creation are bent on creating, and as long as people play their semi-sentient games of scarcity, survival, and temporarily sating their addictions, it makes for great raw material for Godzilla to work with. Make no mistake: both worlds are what the people in them created, by their daily actions and thoughts. Which one do you want to live in? Or might you want to live in a 90% or more depopulated Earth, if you are one of the "lucky" survivors? Or might you want to incarnate into a world where George Bush the Eight just declared war on Eastasia, who was our ally the year before? I am literally approached with these kinds of "visions," fairly regularly. People tend to worship the familiar, preferring the devil they know, and visions of heaven on Earth literally scare them. You probably have to see it to believe it. Fuller's comments on people's addiction to scarcity and failure made great sense to me when I read it. It largely summarized what I had witnessed for the previous 30 years.

    Another line of defense to the idea of heaven on Earth is that it is human "nature" to live in scarcity and fear, and that if we had a chance to do something different, such as live in love and abundance, we would still choose fear and scarcity. Really? How on Earth could they possible know? In fact, history is replete with those kinds of arguments, and they were regularly proven false. Antebellum Bible bangers argued that slavery was human "nature" and that captured Africans were natural slaves. Ancient Greeks made similar arguments, and even the pre-industrial Utopias, from the Greeks to Thomas More, had slaves. Heck, in the Greek Utopias, essentially everybody was a slave, even the elite.

    As I make clear in my big essay, this has deep roots in the human journey, going back at least ten million years and more. We would call gorilla and chimp societies psychopathic if humans ran them, and since they can pass the mirror test, human psychological concepts are not exactly inappropriate to use on them. Males killing infants they do not father, brutally coercing the females – who would want to live in a society like that? One chimp population became isolated during the current ice age's vagaries, their food supply doubled, and females and non-dominant males ended the practice of male gangs dominating their society. Their societies are more peaceful than any human society has ever been, and people say that humans cannot achieve it, and in fact should not achieve it, as it makes kill-or-be-killed obsolete?

    What can humanity achieve if it had universal abundance? I am trying to find out, and all of those objections, as far as I have seen, are people just projecting their fears. It is another reason why I say that love and FE are joined at the hip. Who is to say what the human potential is?

    Time for chores.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    Thanks for making a small discussion about me with a link to that essay I've made, Wade. You have an entire thread and site to create links from. I just have a small essay, which I still want to edit again since I re-read it thanks to your link and saw some grammatical errors. Can I still make edits after 30 days in this site? The other site I've joined limits it to 30 days.

    Wait, I think I still can. It's April 28 when I've made my first ever post and I can still edit it (though I am not going to do that) so I guess, I can still edit my essay.

    I'm still editing this one below,

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post967771

    FIRST EVER POST:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post956599

    I want to do future posts based on that essay since it's a rather revealing account of my journey towards FE, as I embarked on a quest of attracting at least one radlefty like me.

    I really developed a fascination towards matriarchal and matrilineal societies when I've first started my anthropological journey.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrilineality

    I think growing up in a female majority household plus under a female breadwinner and an overprotective mother can have an effect on you. They're the major "energy slaves" of mine. It also relates to the entire idea of females as life givers. They've really helped me in this journey to FE unintentionally. For many years, I am also in a constant company of female friends even in my latest work experience before I resigned. It's me and then three to five girls. It's always in that pattern. Of course, sometimes, I am in total male company or more balanced mixed gender company but note the word sometimes. And it's a more recent thing when it got more prevalent due to the puberty related stuff like getting into sports and talking about it and of course, the intellectual stuff that I get more discussion of from males. But I also get them from an all-female company. Female company dominated my personal relationships throughout my life. I am not saying I'm a "babe magnet" kind of a person but being with women (not in that way though) just happens even if I don't intend to and every school year there is always a girl that develops a "temporary crush" on me and admit that, of course after they got over it. And they're usually my companions. They always got disillusioned about me, Hahaha. I also remember having an experience that is a bit "semi-sexual" with female friends back in fifth grade, that part of growing up and exploring your bodies kind of thing. It also helped that I developed a fascination with the "harem" genre of anime; again with a male surrounded by females in a house when I was young.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_(genre))
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Hina

    So that really hooked me into the bizarre Conversations with God discussions on sex, matriarchy/patriarchy, marriage and HEBs since again, I am also into the science fiction Star Wars/Star Trek/Isaac Asimov stuff. I remember reading a lot on Holocene tribal holticultural economies where women play a key role in production of foodstuffs. I can also relate a lot to Native American societies' deep regard and deep respect they give to females.

    http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpresse...&brand=ucpress
    https://books.google.com.ph/books?id...nomies&f=false
    http://archaeology.uiowa.edu/househo...great-plains-0
    http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/a...239/tribe.html

    Precolonial Filipino society also have that feature before the Spaniards started raping women and establish a patriarchal society. Precolonial Filipino males always walk behind females, especially elderly women. And I get to love this recent Philippine historical TV series:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaya_(TV_series))

    The entire concept that the caretaker or soul or personality of our planet, the Mother Gaia or the Planetary Logos of the Earth or the Primordial Goddess, is feminine also helped me.

    No wonder I got hooked to your site Wade about all of that feminine medicinal paradigm and your advocacy that females play a bigger role in singing the song of abundance. Of course with the spiritual perspective of yours.

    I wonder how deep the connection towards gaining consciousness of your stuff by having significant deep and constant relationships with females? What is your thought about that?

    I also read this article about feminine and masculine traits in science:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leeann...b_3691572.html

    I wonder what are your thoughts on a rather separation of masculine science that dominates the establishment science with the feminine attributes of the "suppressed science" that relates to spirituality? And of course, the male dominance even in FE related sciences?

    Thanks,

    SL
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    Hi Wade,

    Is it not the nature of conspiracy to ignite Godzillia into your spirit?

    You have not done so and that is to me...very...very...logical...

    What I said means that evil can affect good and good can not overcome...

    If you live with Godzilla long enough you will I guarantee you........ that... you.... will lose hope...

    Wade ..you got blazed upon the internet and so the way that I see it now you have folks that are helping in the area of technology. I got blazed at usps....waking up is the easy part and so its living with the truth that counts...

    What is electronic technology? The energy to run ET is from fossil fuels...no? And so if ET is to be the answer we shall see in time as fossil fuels run low and so that will be the proof....when all of the wired humans can not even see each other...think about that one...

    what do i know...

    thanx wade


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    Wade,

    Before I say anything else that might get me in to trouble here you hike in one of the most unspoiled environments in the world.

    How do you do it

    I bike in one of the most changed and spoiled worlds as some would see it and so I see it as a beautiful world...

    I have a great camera just not a great way to take it upon long bicycle rides into that great wisconsing hinterland....as it were

    Wait you mean that gravel road is the route into the WI hinterland...sure is...

    and so it sure is the route in....

    one has to decide ones path...is the way in or the way out the correct one...?

    I am so in upon this and the way out is so...very unclear at this point...

    and so dogs are so clear yet the humble cat whom some hate is a great way to talk about things we don't know about...

    Wade you told me that you do not own a cat and that's true...one can never own a cat and one can only live with a cat...

    And so I would say if you choose to live with a cat only choose a calico cat since they hunt the best and can tell you whom you might communicate with....

    thanx wade

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    Hi:

    I am currently editing my essay now. Just a few change of words and removing grammatical errors of sorts.

    I can personally relate to the idea of living with cats and but you can never own cats. They are very independent and scientific research notes that it's almost like these cats felt forced to be domesticated and they can easily live in the wild and transition to there and then go back to domestication. Like I said, very independent. We have a dog now and we had one when I was young before he disappeared, presumably because he was taken away as food in beer drinking parties here (yeah), but I'm in constant company of cats and again, mostly female cats, since 1995. It's basically all throughout my life. And I love it. I love cats.

    Thanks,

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    Hi again:

    The updated versions of "A Radical Leftist's Journey to Free Energy" was posted a few minutes ago here:

    Part 1
    Part 2

    It's just a few tweaks and I have to move some paragraphs to part 2 because of the character limits. I've bolded words that relate to people, events, books, concepts, etc. which helped me in my journey to understand "Wade's World".

    Thanks for reading again.

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    Hi:

    SL, I have been called "androgynous" since I was a teenager. I was a track star and saw plenty of male swagger, but I also grew up during women's lib. I was raised by a Marine boot camp drill sergeant, but his wife prevailed on him to talk me out of joining the Air Force. I did not have any sisters, so no, I don't think that I really had big female influences while growing up. It was far more male influences, in our male-dominated culture, but like in many ways, I did not mindlessly march to the beat. I could see that the male principle unbalanced leads to disaster. The raping of Earth is largely a male-dominated dynamic. Yes, a successful FE effort cannot be a Boys' Club. The male-domination is largely responsible for the field's state of arrested development, men playing heroes and messiahs, etc. Yes, women need to step up to make this happen, and not as groupies and cheerleaders, but active participants. What you see Melinda doing is along those lines, and when female scientists join up, we will be getting somewhere.

    The Philippines was a horticultural society before the Spaniards arrived, and in those societies, women bring in most of the calories (energy), hence their high status.

    My wife is a cat person, and we have almost always had cats, and when I resume my career, we will again. I become their human. Yes, cats are a trip. In the USA, there are lots of jokes, such as dogs have masters and cats have staff, or dogs have ADHD and cats have Asperger's.

    Yes, Nine, conspiracism makes people paranoid and yes, they get sucked up into Godzilla's energy. Studying the dark side is perilous. The Saruman parable in The Lord of the Rings is pertinent.

    I am now going to cover some of the themes I recently thought about while hiking.

    My work is not for the faint of heart, the weak of mind, the lazy looking for easy answers, the low-integrity looking for opportunities to get rich, famous, and/or swindle people. I do not offer any money-making opportunities and never will. The day that any money changes hands is far off, if it ever happens. That means that my effort is going to start slowly, but what gets built will last and may well make a dent, instead of becoming another opportunistic flavor of the day.

    When I have mentioned the end of cities, nations, races, and the like, people often react with fear, as they have a love of the familiar, or rather, they feel safe with it, even if it is highly detrimental. When nations, cities, races and the like end, it won't be because troops of FE goons are going to forcibly tear people away from cities, force the races to breed, and the rest of those crazy fears. When humanity tears down all the cities, it will be like putting aside our building blocks as we grow up. Today's cities will seem the equivalent of caves under an FE regime, and people will no more want to live in today's cities than today's city dwellers want to live in caves. One objection to the end of cities is that humanity will turn into a bunch of hillbillies. That is another example of projecting fears and ignorance onto a situation that people can barely comprehend. Any person on Earth will be able to quickly and easily go anywhere on Earth, converse and associate with whomever he/she wishes, will have instant access to any information desired, and so on. Thinking that the end of cities will turn us all into hillbillies is like thinking that the end of village life meant that all went back to living in caves.

    I am going to write a few posts on imagination, intuition, "faith," and discrimination. But briefly, my work has little room for faith in it, especially the blind kind. Have a remote viewing, and you falsify the materialistic assumptions of today's science. I consider organized skepticism to be a criminal enterprise, but discrimination is a key feature of scientific practice. The best scientists never get too attached to any theory, and are ready to give them up if they are falsified. When the assumptions of science are challenged, that is when paradigm shifts happen, such as Einstein's challenge to Newton's assumptions of absolute time and absolute space. When the assumptions of materialism are overturned, science will have its biggest paradigm shift ever.

    Time for a few chores, before I go hiking.

    Best,

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    SL, you have a long career of writing ahead of you, if you want it. As Avalonians who have followed my work know, I always tweak my posts to correct grammar and punctuation. I tweaked this Roads World post late last year, when I found typos in it. It is nice that Avalon allows those corrections. Other forums don't always allow it, a few days later.

    While those posts of yours are your "flagship" posts for now, you don't need to make posts that announce that you tweaked them. You will get the hang of this as you continue.

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    Hi:

    I doubt that TPTB could outlaw FE and get away with it, but you never know what they might dare.

    I am going to make a post or two (or more ) on subjects not new to my work, but I doubt that I have brought them altogether in a few posts, and it is about faith, doubt, discrimination, knowledge, seeking the truth, deception, secrecy, and the honesty/dishonesty divide. In many ways, it has been the crux of my journey, as I have navigated those treacherous waters. Sometimes, I was led down the path of deception, other times toward the truth, and other times I had to blaze my own trails. Sometimes, it felt like I was drowning, but I would find a floating object and hang on, pull myself out of the water, recover, and go back at it again. I'll start those posts in tomorrow, and I am going to be in and out over the next week, but will plunk along on them.

    Going to bed now.

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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    ...there are all sorts of people who worship the past and think that it can be some sort of ideal that we should strive for. The "paleo" people are like that, thinking that the hunter-gatherer diet is the human ideal. They, and people with pastoral/farmer fantasies, strangely attack vegetarians, and one way to look at it is the Old Time Religion attacking upstart "heretics."

    I often see people play the "nature" or "human nature" card when arguing for why FE is impossible or undesirable. Again, you often have to see it to believe it. There is nothing "natural" about a farm, a city, a road, and many other aspects of human civilization, but people treat the familiar as "natural," when that is the furthest thing from being the case. There are all sorts of "harmony with nature" advocates who look at hunter-gatherers, villagers, and the like as living in harmony with nature, as if it is some ideal to strive for. The human line has not lived in "harmony" with nature since the control of fire. Hunter-gatherers initiated the Sixth Mass Extinction as they drove all of Earth's easy meat to extinction...

    On the issue of idealising the past, one of the elements that shines through again (for me) is people's longing for simplicity. The unnecessary complication of modern life triggers stress, and also a common sense in us that our systems of living (working, eating, sharing, even learning) do not need to be as complicated as they are. Sometimes we create complexity for entertainment/exploration. But I think even in people who may seem disinterested in concerns beyond popular culture and daily survival, there may still be an unconscious awareness that our technological progress is not being used to our advantage. In the collective unconscious this may even be compounded by an awareness of FE developments - whether through back-engineering, suppressed inventors or other more psychic avenues that have remained dormant, not nurtured since birth.

    Overwhelmed by complexity, and worn out by the daily grind, it can feel easier to project good sense onto ancestors whose lives weren't polluted by the worst of modern invention, rather than risk imagining what kind of future might be 'spawned' by a culture riddled with toxicity. Of course, it's also easy to forget the downsides of that seemingly uncomplicated past - like driving species of plants and animals to extinction, and fending off violence (or even boredom) with primitive tools. It's easier to blame our technological evolution for our ills, rather than looking deeper to the covert / overt suppression (of truly creative thinking) and our indirect or willing support of that barrier.

    Elements of the Paleo diet make sense, like the avoidance of refined sugar and animal dairy, but advocating the eating of meat simply because it was a 'natural' food of ancestors is a more sensitive issue. With the varied mix of both spiritual frequency and genetics on the planet, different people will likely respond well to different foods. It's debatable how much of that is due to genetics, or nurture (what the body has adapted to utilise due to exposure from birth), or even emotional triggers (e.g. associating a Sunday roast with the formative, early experience of familial gathering.) I personally take the view that in a world of abundance most people will eventually choose and adapt to a vegetarian diet, and more advanced humans won't require food at all. But until abundance arrives (either via an astonishing spiritual revolution or via external FE technologies) many of us may struggle to overcome our addictions.

    I started researching population statistics again the other day (contemplating the link between abundance and population balance, which warrants much longer, deeper research.) This tiny article gives a quick summation:

    http://borgenproject.org/birth-rates...ut-of-poverty/

    It begins : “Many people argue that deaths resulting from poverty are an unfortunate solution to overpopulation.” Tragically, the same distorted argument is also applied to war. I look forward to that kind of reasoning becoming permanently obsolete in a world of true abundance.

    One issue the article covers is that of people in developing countries (with less energy access) having children to lessen the labour load or to care for the sick or elderly - and having more children so there's a better chance of some surviving into adulthood. There are obviously other factors, like a sense of tribal connection, and the cementing of community (perhaps especially relevant to those who emigrate.) With the nature of community having shifted in developed nations due to advancements in travel and communication, many people in wealthier nations are exploring a less traditional sense of community, based on conscious choice rather than genetic or ethnic bonds. It brings me to this report from 2010 which looked at the UK :

    https://www.populationmatters.org/do...mily_sizes.pdf

    The author wrote:

    Quote "Ethnicity does impact on family size, with black and Asian ethnic groups having larger families than white and Chinese ones"
    Reading that, I wondered if white people in the UK who are less likely to have come from developing countries, have had more generations adapted to the influence of a more modern (energy-dependent) infrastructure, and hence with that cultural heritage they are less likely to create bigger families. The same might be true of non-white citizens in other countries whose ancestors emigrated generations ago. China has had policy limiting the number of children per family for several decades, which is a cultural norm that may have carried over to the UK in the form of self-limitation. But equally, Chinese families in other countries may grow larger than the UK average due to differing environment / opportunities. As I said - something that warrants deeper research. I'm still trying to shape my understanding.

    The same source stated that :

    Quote "These data show that socio-economic class, perhaps contrary to popular belief, does not affect family size..."
    This again made me think of the larger provisions for education, healthcare and welfare made for poorer individuals in developed nations. There has been less (energy-dependent) infrastructure to provide for poorer people in less modernised societies compared to the materially-wealthier poor in developed nations. It can also be, in some respects, less demanding to be poor in warmer countries than in the colder climates of developed countries, where higher standards of shelter and energy access have been expected as a basic for far longer, meaning there is more material gain to be lost in a developed nation by having more mouths to feed. By that I'm not just talking about the price of goods and property (how many in developed nations grow their own food rather than buying it, especially in cities?), but there are more opportunities for women and men to explore a range of pursuits (beyond raising their family) which can bear fruit but cost money.

    This is separate to the controversial debate of whether partners do or don't have more babies to access more state benefits. In an abundant FE culture, many state provisions would become obsolete, as technology and wisdom relating to healthcare could be freely shared, and people would have more time and energy to care for others out of love and instinct than is prevalent or supported under a system of scarcity. People might, understandably, harbour the fear that care homes or schools would be emptied of staff because many of them would be off in their anti-gravity pods, exploring the universe But firstly, I don't think a culture of abundance would result in people not tending one another, and secondly, from what I have read and heard first-hand, many care homes and educational facilities in a our scarcity-riddled culture do not provide the kind of loving or ethical care we might hope they do, as people tired by labouring lives sweep their relatives into the arms of others.

    This site had a simple chart comparing population sizes to energy consumption :

    http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/population_energy

    and made the claim :

    Quote "Next time you hear about a woman in India who has 7 children, remember that she'd have to have more than 10 children to match the impact of an American woman with just one child"
    and on this page :

    http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/global_population

    Quote "In many developing countries, couples are still averaging 4 to 6 children. Nearly half of them would like to have fewer children, but they lack access to family planning (not including abortion). Providing the education and supplies they need would cost only a few dollars per year."
    This really calls into question the so-called philanthropic efforts to reduce population in developing countries. Could that 'philanthropy' in part be about protecting resources in those nations for use by wealthier ones or (more narrowly) their elites, the way John Perkins has written about? In a balanced FE culture you likely wouldn't have the dilemmas of deciding where to reduce population, or of trying to ascertain what reduction advocates' real agendas were.

    I also came across this article :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...e-Britain.html

    It suggested fewer middle class women in the UK were having children (some regretting the choice) because they had been distracted by the cultural enticements of an ambitious career, only to later assess their priorities when it was too late to have a family. Whilst some might hone in on how this is the desired result of powerful cabals that funded or supported the rise of feminism, so they could tax more working women and give the state more influence on children, I'm more inclined to view it as a reflection of a transition period - and remember that should we create a world of true autonomy, equality and abundance, both women and men will be more enabled to balance the fulfilment of loving parenthood with that of independent creative endeavours.

    In an FE culture of higher quality diet and healthcare, there will naturally be the issue of more people living longer. In broad terms, this could be catered for by prosperity encouraging fewer births, and our civilisation (once it is in fact 'civilised' by higher ethical standards) branching out into habitats off-world. With growing professional and creative opportunities for women, progress in education (regarding women's rights as well as health), and also advancements in fertility treatment, more women have put off childbearing until later. So if parents in an FE world began living to 200 years old, that may also increase a trend in delaying the conception of a first child until a much later age of (for example) 70 years old. There are obvious benefits to being older, more mature parents, if you have the same energy to raise a family that you would have had in your twenties / thirties, and if women's bodies and/or medical advancements have evolved to support pregnancy without complications.

    I'm not sure where there is an example of our ancestors' less complex practices / attitudes (towards welfare, diet, gender equality, etc) leading to a natural balance of population where the majority of the populace wasn't tied to labour and/or poverty. Probably researching more deeply the content of your essay Wade, will help cement the understanding. Trying to force ourselves into the practices of the past would not be pretty. I don't think that it is, if we're honest, the kind of simplicity that would fulfil or even sustain us. And equally, attaching to the largely coercion-based infrastructure we have now, because we fear the solitude in a culture of independence, also does not seem like a path to enlightenment.

    In summation - returning inward to our psychic sources of energy and fulfilment is one thing. Returning to the lifestyles of ancestors who never mastered those inner reserves, and who plundered the outer world, is another.


    I wrote in an earlier post :

    Quote "We are living in a world, a culture, of numerous artificial constructs that compound scarcity. The natural world is, conversely, abundant."
    and you responded:

    Quote "On nature's abundance, there really have only been relatively brief periods of what we might call abundance, in nature..."
    and then elaborated with the necessary, and always appreciated, pointers.

    But just to clarify what I meant, the fields from which FE can be drawn, either by the body or machines, is a 'natural' phenomena that is (for our purposes) considered abundant. Equally, a single tree or an ear of corn contains an abundance of seeds to produce many more of its species. Most may not survive the 'natural' process of being taken on the wind or the backs of animals/insects to end up in fertile ground, and those that do may not even germinate. But through man's inventiveness, and adaptation of natural systems with technology (from our opposable thumbs to our tractors) we have found ways to adapt nature's abundance to create a higher yield for our needs. But of course - it requires conscientious, efficient management of forests, soils and water sources, so they can be replenished. There has been a lot of testimony in recent years, counter to the propaganda funded by corporate giants, that simpler organic methods of farming can in fact produce higher and healthier yields than corporate, GMO farming. That would seem a prime example of our technological evolution, combined with good sense, being more capable of healthy abundance than a corporate system driven by greed/scarcity. And it's exactly that kind of good sense that could prevail in a world where people are free, and fuelled by clean energy, to shape their production in the most sensible ways.

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    Hi:

    Thanks for the further encouragement, Wade.

    I am currently broadening my horizons now as I attempt to put my own ontology of "Wade's World" in pseudo-intellectual terminologies and conceptualizations in the sense that I want to be part of your bait in attracting future choir candidates and I am trying to mix up ideals and synthesize them in a rather weird way. At least this is part of me trying to make sense of things. I'm sure this is going to look weird. My major hindrance so far is my lack of "scientific training" since I cannot just act like a Frankfurt School critical theorist or Integral Theorist despite those schools of thought's attempts of synthesizing backgrounds in the pursuit of human liberation, whatever that means. I'm largely "stuck" in social sciences so far. Stuck in the sense that it is the branch that largely dominate my mind followed by formal logical "sciences" (philosophy, logic, decision theory, reasoning) and earth and space sciences (astronomy, geology, etc.), both are quite behind. But I found inspiration in studying things more after reading once again about phenomenology, critical theory, integral theory and anti-positivism. I just got enthralled by phenomenology's focus on experience and consciousness. Critical theory also talks of ideology as a principal obstacle to human liberation. Integral Theory do have a little mystical element incorporated to it. Anti-positivism rejects scientism and the primacy of the scientific method. I am also trying to find out more about the anthropic principle and I just got inspired after reading things related to all of them again. Alternate history also developed my interest with chaos theory and game theory. Yes, it's another attempt of using scarcity-based ideals, terminologies and conceptualizations from various disciplines and reconcile them with the reality of FE and paranormal experience in my own way as I undergo my own FE oriented journey in life. I am not writing another big article again though. I am just saying that I am trying to commit more in "doing my homework". Hahaha.

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    Hi Melinda:

    Nice post. What you are referring to, with birth rates, longevity, and the like, has been called the demographic transition, which all industrial nations have done or are in the middle of. The poor nations are even doing it, with the introduction of sanitation, improvement of nutrition, and the like, which has cut global birth rates in half in my lifetime. The world's poor nations are getting industrial nation goods such as cell phones and Internet access, but it is obviously a very mixed bag for them.

    Yes, so-called philanthropy is almost entirely a fraud.

    In Darwin's Origin of Species, he wrote at length about the fecundity of life and his experiments on that subject. Malthus earlier wrote about the same thing, with humans instead of other species, on how they always outstrip their energy supplies. All life tries to use as much energy as possible, and ecosystem "battles" between organisms, even of the same species, are what keeps the equilibrium. I would probably call that ability to breed ad infinitum something other than abundance, especially for what I am referring to. "Fecund" seems appropriate, for every organism trying to outbreed its neighbors.

    When species hit their energy limits, they can engage in behaviors that limit their numbers. We can see it with domestic animals that we have bred and crowded, so that they engage in "warfare," infanticide, cannibalism, homosexuality, and other behaviors that limit their numbers. Of course, the geniuses who devised such systems have "solutions" such as de-beaking chickens so that they can no longer peck each other.

    When humans embrace abundance, as a truly sentient species, we will no longer devastate Earth in our attempt to breed to the limits of the energy supply, and the demographic transition, IMO, is a hint of what a truly sentient species can do, and futures like this can come into view.

    Hi SL:

    Keep going deep on your studies, and stay grounded. For what I am trying to do, you do not need any more scientific literacy than what deep study of my big essay can attain. Sure, studying those esoteric subjects is a fine thing, and you will see that I address many of those issues in my work, without going deep on those various schools of thought. Be wary of becoming too pointy-headed. The intellectual game can become a seductive trap, and there are way too many pipe-smoking intellectuals out there. But you seem to have a keen tool of a mind and should be able to navigate the shoals of those ideologies. As always, if the heart is in charge, the voyage will be worthwhile.

    You will note that in my work, I try to stay away from the buzzwords of the various disciplines, so that lay audiences can more easily understand them. The great popularizers such as Nick Lane, Peter Ward, Brian Fagan, Noam Chomsky, and the like are those whose styles that I have found most useful, and I have written in my own inimitable style from the beginning, and I have always targeted lay audiences, even though scientists and scholars are often my work's most avid readers.

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