ET's vs EDE's

[Ruby]

Source: Simon Parkes, and others..

He explained in one of his interviews that Extraterrestrials and Extra-dimentional entities are different in that an Extraterrestrial actually flies through our 3D space in a ship to get here, and Extra-dimensional entities travel through dimensional portals. Here is an example or two:

The tall whites, are extraterrestrials and it took them about 20 years to get here flying faster than the speed of light. (Yes its possible). The Archons, are caught between the third and forth dimension and greys, draconians, Mantids, etc. are 4th dimensional entities and need portals to travel and into our spacetime.

Pleiadians, from what I gather, are humanoids from the 5th dimension, and Andromedians are from the 6th dimension. The information I have found about the Pleidians is that they claim to be here to help us evolve/awaken.

The Andromedians are here (from 400 years in the future) to see to it that the cancer of negative creatures who want to control and enslave humankind, (like the Draconians, Reptilians, Greys, Mantids or other 4th dimensional entities,) does not spread throughout the multiverse.

The way I am understanding dimensional entities is that they are not bound by our spacetime and therefore they are mostly from the future in relation to our perception of time.

I seem to have taken up the hobby recently of reading about these different entities and find it fascinating. There are many more but so far I think these are some of the main players.

[robinr1]

very interesting..thanks

[Becky]

Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

[Ruby]

Wow I just watched two videos with Chris Thomas and I believe I got the link to his videos from here but don't remember what thread. The things he says really resonated with me, so I ordered 5 of his books. He confirms what I have been hearing from other sources that the greys and Draconian energetic entities have been evicted off the planet and the black holes which are the portals they came through are closing and disappearing. (They will not be bringing in reinforcements.) He also confirms what I heard from other sources that those entities were NOT from this universe which is a universe of free will. Those energies had the energetic power to remove free will. I hadn't heard that anywhere before. Chris Thomas has direct access to the Akashic records and his books are about the Velon and how they are behind the Illuminati and why they try so hard to prevent humans from waking up and gaining back their entire soul and soul memories. If anyone is interested in this here is the link.

P.S. Other information is that some of the Reptilian (Draconian) entities are still here, but their portals (black holes) are closing and their reinforcements are being kept out of the universe. I didn't realize that portals and black holes were basically the same thing, interesting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-RSwTihJQ0

[Ruby]

Posted by Becky (here)
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Yes I have heard that the names djinn and archons are different names for the same entities. I suspect that there are variations within that group. I have heard them called or confused with elementals too. These may be energies that are created by the planet earth.

[Becky]

Posted by Ruby (here)

Posted by Becky (here)
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Yes I have heard that the names djinn and archons are different names for the same entities. I suspect that there are variations within that group. I have heard them called or confused with elementals too. These may be energies that are created by the planet earth.

Hi Ruby, in my understanding, the velon and djinn are different entities because Chris Thomas describe the velon as having huge ships which they live in and travel around in, so this makes them very different to the djinn which don't have ships and seem to be trapped between dimensions unless called up into the 3rd D or maybe into the 4th too.
I'm not exactly sure what the velon are as they don't seem to be the reptilians or at least not draconis reptilians. Have you read the Wes Penre papers? They are a fascinating read. I've only read levels 1 and 2 so far but aim to read the rest as they are an incredible source of info. Maybe the archons are the Sirian Overlords as Wes describes, which do have close links to the draconis reptilians but seem to be 'higher up' in a more negative and controlling way, not in a spiritual way - they are certainly extremely service to self. Fascinating stuff!
The elementals in my understanding are closely connected to mother earth and help regulate and nurture nature and natural earth energies.on and within mother earth.

[Becky]

And just to add, Chris says the greys and draconis are banished from earth, but I'm really not sure at all about this as they have close links with the military and seem to be closely involved with ongoing milabs abductions which people are still reporting to be experiencing...

[Ruby]

I'm not exactly sure what the velon are as they don't seem to be the reptilians or at least not draconis reptilians.

The Velon are basically the Anunnaki and they are the aliens who are behind the Illuminati here on the earth. Apparently they have only been here for about 300 years but they have the ability to travel back in time according to Chris Thomas, and planted the fake story about being the creators of humans, which they are not. You can hear that story here from Chris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zf7scVDQ1g

If what Chris is saying is true, it shoots a big hole in the story of the Return of Planet X -- which is what I had been looking into today and came across this guy. I find his story extremely interesting. I would have poo pooed it a few years back when I did not believe time travel was even possible, but I have been convinced that time travel is possible as is traveling through portals, worm holes, black holes etc... The universe is ALIVE!

Yes the Velon and the djinn are different entities. It was the Archons and the djinn what were refered to by Simon as basically the same thing by a different name given them by two different cultures here.

[Becky]

Ah, Yes I get the velon and archons mixed up in my mind! If the velon are the annunaki, then that does make them the sirian overlords as Wes Penre describes them in detail.
I can't reconcile Chris's description of the earth's history with Wes Penres nor Simons description of human/earth history. Simon's verson correlates pretty closely to the Wes Penre papers although I believe he hasn't read them. I guess the best we can do is as much research as we can and also searching our higher self for answers. To many this may not matter, but it is certainly something I wish to understand far better.

[Ruby]

Posted by Becky (here)
And just to add, Chris says the greys and draconis are banished from earth, but I'm really not sure at all about this as they have close links with the military and seem to be closely involved with ongoing milabs abductions which people are still reporting to be experiencing...

Yes I believe there still may be some greys and draconis here on earth, but not many. According to Randy, a super soldier who served 17 years on mars, most of the greys have been sent back through the portals and the "clean up" is still on going. There may be a few draconis left but they are probably going to be going underground or leaving soon as the black holes are all closing up. The CERN collider was supposed to keep the portal open but it failed, and it looks like they are not going to get the new one build in Japan in time.

In time for what you might ask. In time for the humans to transform by bringing down their whole soul into the body. (Chris said that) or pull down the rest of their DNA (Simon Parkes). So humans are NOT ascending to another dimension. They will remain with the earth. The Velon want to get rid of the humans so they can have this planet for themselves. Not going to happen!

[Becky]

And Steve Richards, the Holographic Kinetic's guy who learnt his info from ancient aboriginal law, his understanding of earth and human history is much more along the lines of Wes Penre and Simon's as well...

[Ruby]

Posted by Becky (here)
Ah, Yes I get the velon and archons mixed up in my mind! If the velon are the annunaki, then that does make them the sirian overlords as Wes Penre describes them in detail.
I can't reconcile Chris's description of the earth's history with Wes Penres nor Simons description of human/earth history. Simon's verson correlates pretty closely to the Wes Penre papers although I believe he hasn't read them. I guess the best we can do is as much research as we can and also searching our higher self for answers. To many this may not matter, but it is certainly something I wish to understand far better.

As much as I like Simon Parkes, and I think he is sincere, but he does not have direct access to the records as Chris does. His information comes only from what people and aliens (Mantids and Draconis) have told him. They are 4th dimensional entities who are not even from this universe of free will. Given that they come from a different universe which can take away free will, they may have imparted information to Simon that is not completely true. Simon has chosen to help humanity. His Mandid mother has her(or his) own agenda, and I have not worked out what that is. She told Simon that if they "fail" then "all is lost." That struck me as meaning all is lost not for humanity but for the Mantids. I know that the draconis, and perhaps the Mantids have their own religion and belief structure and Simon mentioned that they might be wanting to "piggy back" on the human ascension of humans.... but guess what, that has to do with the soul, and Chris says that human beings soul has 50 dimensions. The aliens don't quite understand. This is what I got from it.

[Ruby]

In short, what I got from this was that humans are not going to "ascend to the 5th dimension" and Chris said that is a lie propagated by the Velons. Humans are going to integrate their whole soul into their physical body which will give them powers like telepathy, bi-location, communication with the earth and animals etc. When that happens to all the humans on earth they will throw the Velons out, and off the planet. Humans will then be able to live for two thousand years as they did in Atlantis. That comes from Chris.

[Ruby]

Posted by Becky (here)
And Steve Richards, the Holographic Kinetic's guy who learnt his info from ancient aboriginal law, his understanding of earth and human history is much more along the lines of Wes Penre and Simon's as well...

I don't remember Simon's understanding of human history. Do you know which interview he talked about that? I will watch it again. Still, Simon gets his information from Mantid and Dracois. It might be a "nice" Mantid, but after all, they work hand in hand with the greys and the Draco's doing abductions. Therefore I don't trust that source and I don't think they told Simon everything, or discussed their agenda with him.

[Ruby]

Now that I think about it, if the portals are closing and the greys and draconis are being sucked out or trapped, and the Mantids were working along with them I'm thinking the Mantids may have come over from the same universe as the Draconis where they don't respect or honor free will. When Simon's website came back on he mentioned in an interview that him and some of the people who worked with or for him underwent energetic psychic attacks and two of his people quit. That is what he said. Perhaps his protection is on the run and the Velons (or our black ops military) are targeting him and the Mantids too. Just a thought.

[Ruby]

Posted by Becky (here)
And Steve Richards, the Holographic Kinetic's guy who learnt his info from ancient aboriginal law, his understanding of earth and human history is much more along the lines of Wes Penre and Simon's as well...

I will definitely check those out thanks.

[Baby Steps]

Posted by Ruby (here)
Now that I think about it, if the portals are closing and the greys and draconis are being sucked out or trapped, and the Mantids were working along with them I'm thinking the Mantids may have come over from the same universe as the Draconis where they don't respect or honor free will. When Simon's website came back on he mentioned in an interview that him and some of the people who worked with or for him underwent energetic psychic attacks and two of his people quit. That is what he said. Perhaps his protection is on the run and the Velons (or our black ops military) are targeting him and the Mantids too. Just a thought.

Hi,
the following from Lisa Renee on the 'in5d website describes the pitfalls of working in spiritual groups, if one is not fully clear or conversant with basic protection techniques, for example when travelling Astrally. I do not think that Simon has any protection issues, but I do think such groups are targeted by higher dimensional (Astral & 4D) dark entities and participants need to learn how to operate in that environment:

"If we are not responsible with our personal thoughts and emotions, and allow ego disturbances to run our lives, we are vulnerable to be heavily manipulated and controlled by external forces.
One such manipulation is the collection and use of human psychic forces. When we are acting out extreme emotional states or mental judgments, that plasma substance is taken from our lower bodies (1D-2D-3D) and reconstituted to serve the manipulation of a planetary mind controlled agenda. If the person or group involved in creating such a “highly charged” ego based scenario “take the bait”, (this is referred to as “fishing”) the motive is to create chaos, disruption and get a dark “foothold” in the door. The point is here, to not let something “pushing dark energy” to get in the door, and to see it clearly for what it is, without fear or judgment. When you see it for what it is, the dark has no power or control over you or anything that you may be working with, such as projects, work, etc.
Clarity only becomes available when you are self-directed, calm and neutral and have no investment in any outcome or result.
This tactic is especially prevalent in spiritual leadership and within spiritual communities where the alien manipulation is used to divide and conquer those groups by instigating psychic warfare. This is to prevent the group from recognizing their own power and from creating unity through collaboration, which if stabilized, drastically increases their manifestation power (critical mass) into this world. How best to hijack or divide a group, when you believe it is another light-worker in that group, that is evil, controlled and sending you psychic attack? (This is why having some tools of Psychic Self Defense is mandatory when navigating the ascension and light-worker communities. Focused minds with disciplined egos reduce this problem extensively.)"

"Naturally if those of us in the light-worker family are serving freedom and ascension for the human race, we can be targeted quite easily through the victim-victimizer software, especially if we have little discipline over our mind and emotions.
Remembering that the planetary mind is invaded, means that the collective human mind has been invaded, (via the ego functions) as the reptilians (i.e. archons) have downloaded their mind into this planet. Therefore, it has leaked its sickness and sociopathy into the human mind. The global brain is magnetic, and keeping these machines operating will give us a clue as to what the lunar forces and the moon are being used for.
All of us have the choice and the power (by developing our inner life force and spiritual core) to stop this ego sickness from invading our sense of well-being, and controlling our mind to play out and inflict these sick behaviors on others. All of us here on earth are recovering from this ego sickness. Yet, being committed to the development of more compassionate kindness and tolerance for the human race is desperately needed.
By taking personal responsibility for the direction of one’s energies, at any moment one can choose what words and associations one will use as the filter to perceive or imply mental-emotional states. This responsibility of owning one’s thoughts and emotional state, are the way to build self-mastery and avoid being mind-controlled or manipulated, by any outside force.
As one becomes responsible for one’s behaviour and being aware about the World of Forces, we avoid being used unconsciously to create dramas, pain and karmic loads on our self and the others around us."

[EWO]

He explained in one of his interviews that Extraterrestrials and Extra-dimentional entities are different in that an Extraterrestrial actually flies through our 3D space in a ship to get here, and Extra-dimensional entities travel through dimensional portals

This doesnt make sense. Its like saying I am a flying entity because I use a airplane to travel instead of a boat or whatever. Portals are just a shortcut. If both entities come from our physical universe and you can see their star in the night sky, then they are both ET regardless how they travel.
But if they come from a different alternate universe or another multiverse in which case portal is the only way to travel then they are EDE

[Ruby]

Posted by EWO (here)

He explained in one of his interviews that Extraterrestrials and Extra-dimentional entities are different in that an Extraterrestrial actually flies through our 3D space in a ship to get here, and Extra-dimensional entities travel through dimensional portals

This doesnt make sense. Its like saying I am a flying entity because I use a airplane to travel instead of a boat or whatever. Portals are just a shortcut. If both entities come from our physical universe and you can see their star in the night sky, then they are both ET regardless how they travel.
But if they come from a different alternate universe or another multiverse in which case portal is the only way to travel then they are EDE

He was just explaining the terms "extra terrestrial" vs "extra-dimensional." If time travel is involved it seems to me one would have to use some kind of portal and if your ship is traveling faster than the speed of light, then that probably in some way involves time distortion of some kind. The way I understood it was that "aliens" from within our own universe who traveled in ships to get here through our space were extra terrestrials. Simon did make a distinction between the two so I am thinking it involves the level of technology going on. I have also heard from at least two sources that the Draconis and maybe the greys are extra dimensional entities and that they are invaders from a completely different universe and should not be here at all and that they came in through black holes. Perhaps local portals or vortexes are different from these black holes. I have also heard that the reptoids are a completely different race from the Draco's and they went to war with each other on Mars. (The reptoids kicked ass according to Randy.) I'm still going over a lot of material so I haven't gotten it all worked out.... and probably won't for a very long time. (Not that I intend to write a book or anything, that is not my intent.)

[EWO]

First time I heard him say that I got the impression they originate from a completely different dimension, thats why its confusing.
They may have used inter dimensional travel to get here but they dont live in another dimension. Even if they are from another time period its still not a different dimension. I dont think he should use that terminology to describe a race based on their mode of transportation.