ET's vs EDE's

[Ruby]

In one interview with Simon, Alfred Weber and Randy, the question was asked what had happened to Mar's atmosphere and the answer was that the Draconis caught the races on mars off guard because they were fighting with each other and they got the upper hand on mars. The story was that the Pleiadians used a bomb to get rid of the Draconis Reptiles and it was more destructive than was intended killing a lot of Mars atmosphere. Mars does have atmosphere and the magnetic field is sort of broken up and it seems to be scattered around the planet, but it still supports life.

[Ruby]

Posted by EWO (here)
First time I heard him say that I got the impression they originate from a completely different dimension, thats why its confusing.
They may have used inter dimensional travel to get here but they dont live in another dimension. Even if they are from another time period its still not a different dimension. I dont think he should use that terminology to describe a race based on their mode of transportation.

I think the important difference is that they are invaders from a different universe that is not a "free will" universe. I think timespace portals within this universe are probably different than the black hole portals. That's just my own speculation.

[Ruby]

Within a local universe there is such a thing as Universal law. Our universal law is one of "free will." In other words, it it based on agreements and consent. (or what we humans call "contracts.") Unscrupulous entities have ways of gaining consent or agreement in casual conversation (humans even use this method, in that we agree to be "governed." and accept other people's authority over us.) The Draconis and greys are aware of this law and do every sneaky thing to get around it or break it outright. The Velon Annunaki I believe are from our universe but the ones who invaded the earth, I believe are basically criminals who have no respect for the universal law and have found ways to get around it by using bribery, threats, fear, lies and intimidation to get people to enter into agreements.

[Ruby]

The triangular craft he mentioned possibly getting abducted by, but he does not remember: I have heard is a craft owned and created by our military. Another note: the date rape drug can take two or three hours of your memory.

[golden lady]

[QUOTE=Ruby;970900]

The CERN collider was supposed to keep the portal open but it failed, and it looks like they are not going get the new one build in Japan in time.

In Joseph Farrells interview with Dark Journalist he mentions the CERN Collider and will be talking about it in greater detail in the future. One to look for.
I'm a big fan of Joseph and Chris Thomas.

[ghostrider]

the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

[Ruby]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

[Ruby]

From the website of the Andromeda Council and about the "Galactic Federation"

QUOTE: "The Andromeda Council is an intergalactic, interstellar & interdimensional governance & development body of aligned benevolent star systems & planets of sentient intelligent life... for worlds in both the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies. " ALSO: "As a high level governance body the Council is responsible for setting precedence, protocols, conditions of behavior regarding planetary exploration & first contact, new membership, and trade relations... among its member planets. Think of it as a deep space - 'United Nations'.

HERE IS MY TAKE ON THAT ABOVE: This looks like some kind of hierarchy created by the Velon Annunaki and I don't believe there is any truth to this information at all. Its just another trap. As a human being, I am sick of being "governed" by the "United Nations" here on earth, so why would I consent to some galactic federation "united nations" to take its place in its governing of me? Any hierarchy like this is set up for the purpose of control and to dictate to others. We multidimensional human beings have no reason to set our sites on or to live in the fourth and fifth dimensions. I am not going to fall for or give consent to being governed by some galactic federation hierarchy. Everyone seems to agree that the Draconians and greys have been defeated and I tend to believe this to be true, but seems like everyone is trying to take credit for it too.

[ghostrider]

Posted by Ruby (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

the writings of Henoch ...

[Ruby]

Posted by ghostrider (here)

Posted by Ruby (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

the writings of Henoch ...

And so who is Henoch??

[ghostrider]

Posted by Ruby (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)

Posted by Ruby (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

the writings of Henoch ...

And so who is Henoch??

Henoch is German for Enoch ...

[ghostrider]

Nokodemjon the first spirit teacher , reincarnated as Henoch (Enoch) three times , same spirit different personalities , merged back with Creation , 12 billion years ago , then came back out for his peoples degenerated away from the laws of Creation , that spirit has been incarnating for billions of years doing the same job each time as a herald or announcer of truths ... he was brought by Et's to our system 389,000 years ago ... He returned again in our time space over 9,000 years ago , as Enoch -Isaiah-Elijah-Jeremiah-Immanuel-Muhammad and now Beam , Billy Edward Albert Meier ... the Plejaren mentor or follow that spirit where ever it incarnates ...that spirit will stay on Earth until the year 3,999 then it will leave to other worlds ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch

[Ruby]

Henoch is German for Enoch ..

I've heard of Enoch but I don't see what those writings have to do with the "Andromeda high council" or the "Galactic Federation" material.

[lucidity]

Posted by Becky (here)
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Hello Siblings,

Isn't being stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the equivalent
of being stuck between the 2nd and 3rd dimension ?
Or the equivalent of being stuck between the 1st and 2nd dimension?
(or for that matter between the 1st and 3rd dimension?)

So.... that would be like being stuck between height and width,
or between depth and height.... or between width and depth.

In other words, isn't this just nonsense?

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Ruby]

In other words, isn't this just nonsense?

It could indeed be just nonsense if by "dimension" you are talking about perception of depth, width, height etc. Personally I don't really understand it myself. It could be a lot of "hot air."

What is a dimension? In 3D...and 2D... and 1D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJJhHknEDPY

I think it is more about vibration and perception.

[TrumanCash]

Regarding the Grays--Yes, they have become much less active in abductions in more recent times. The peak in Grays' abductions occurred in the mid-90s and then gradually tapered off. There may be some left around here but I think it is a small number compared to the mid-90s. I haven't been abducted since 2012 (Feb -- April) and was not abducted for several years before that. Compare that to the mid-90s when I was being abducted as much as two to three times a week.

TLC

[Ecnal61]

Hi Ruby,you say that you think that the greys are extra dimensional but do you mean ALL greys? from what i understand there are different species of grey or greys..could you clarify that point for me please if possible,thanks.

[Ruby]

Posted by Ecnal61 (here)
Hi Ruby,you say that you think that the greys are extra dimensional but do you mean ALL greys? from what i understand there are different species of grey or greys..could you clarify that point for me please if possible,thanks.

Yes I think that the greys, all greys, are extra dimensional entities meaning that they are 4th dimensional entities and that they originally came in the same way as the Draconis Reptilians through black hole portals from a different universe. That is to say, they are not only "not of this earth" they are "not of this local free will universe." The greys we experience are controlled, programmed and genetically modified by the Draconians. If they have a race of their own and a home in their own universe, they probably did not come here on their own or by their own choice. There may be many different types but most of them are simply clones with not much of a will of their own and they operate with a hive mind that is programmed by the Draconians. They don't reproduce so they are clones. The Mantids also create creatures who they use as living robots to do certain jobs according to Simon. These are simply disposed of when they are no longer needed. They are programmed biological machines. The information I have heard is that the greys were evicted from this solar system (and universe) in 2003. If there are any left on earth they have probably gone underground, but Randy said the ones that were on the moon and others they found were sent back or sucked back into the portals from whence they came.

[Lifebringer]

Maybe they'll travel via portal, because they are quarantined here, not us, but the matrix of deceit is to tell us we are prisoners, not them? I too ind this interesting.
Instead of risking cataclysmic weather and crustal conditions, they just jump through, but..now he portals of escape are closing. Hmm...it's something to contemplate.

[Ruby]

My only experience with these extra-dimensional entities was once after I had just fallen asleep, while lying on my back, I went into sleep paralysis and I became aware of at least two beings, possibly greys of some kind, standing over me, one on each side of me. They were fiddling with my stomach as if they were getting ready to operate (or maybe implanting something.) I don't know if they succeeded but I remembered how to get out of sleep paralysis by consciously moving a finger on one of my hands. That movement took me out of it. My niece who was about 12 years old, and staying with me at the time, confided in me later on, that these creatures were bothering her too. I was not taken physically.. as far as I remember. They must have decided I was not a good specimen.