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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

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    Just had a thought.

    The prisons systems of the world, could move from imprisonment, to actual rehabilitation.

    To brain-scan every entry, and then place them in designated areas, according to their wiring type. To separate the true sociopath, from the rest of the prison population.

    The rest of the population will immediately settle down and then one can move toward actual and real rehabilitation of those who can be rehabilitated.

    Right now, the mess is so bad, in most prisons and most countries, that the sociopaths, the true ones, are so bad, that they end up creating a permanent mess inside of those prisons.

    With the brain-scanning and proper placement, the ability to reduce the prison population will be able to emerge from said mess. And that the true group who, by their wiring, cannot be rehabilitated, they can be properly contained. A sociopath can fool people, as that is part of their trick, to fit in, when they know they are different. They can't fool the brain-scan. YES, we can identify sociopathy in brain scans. Very much so.

    This is is eminently doable and in many a country and case...poses no break in privacy and rights, as we are already dealing with people who are wards of the state.

    Those prisoners who want to be in a safer population which is easier to work with and can be rehabilitated and every effort put into them....would VOLUNTEER for the brain scan process.

    Which, incidentally, is probably a decently large percentage of the population of the given prison. Volunteers would be there, in spades, looking to get the hell out of that nightmare, for all the right reasons.

    Cost? in the USA, the most expensive place in the world, for medical hardware and it's use? About $1100US, right now, per scan.

    Which is an absolute pittance for the reward and change it brings.

    Part of the aim of this, is to show that it will work.

    The end result is to take those successes...and turn to testing for sociopathic wiring, to testing for that..in people in politics, power, finance and military, and so on.

    Hell, I'd actually have it on my resume:

    "Tested to be nil for sociopathic wiring, by accredited agency so and so". Another form of being bonded.
    Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

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    Just had a thought.

    The prisons systems of the world, could move from imprisonment, to actual rehabilitation.

    To brain-scan every entry, and then place them in designated areas, according to their wiring type. To separate the true sociopath, from the rest of the prison population.

    The rest of the population will immediately settle down and then one can move toward actual and real rehabilitation of those who can be rehabilitated.

    Right now, the mess is so bad, in most prisons and most countries, that the sociopaths, the true ones, are so bad, that they end up creating a permanent mess inside of those prisons.

    With the brain-scanning and proper placement, the ability to reduce the prison population will be able to emerge from said mess. And that the true group who, by their wiring, cannot be rehabilitated, they can be properly contained. A sociopath can fool people, as that is part of their trick, to fit in, when they know they are different. They can't fool the brain-scan. YES, we can identify sociopathy in brain scans. Very much so.

    This is is eminently doable and in many a country and case...poses no break in privacy and rights, as we are already dealing with people who are wards of the state.

    Those prisoners who want to be in a safer population which is easier to work with and can be rehabilitated and every effort put into them....would VOLUNTEER for the brain scan process.

    Which, incidentally, is probably a decently large percentage of the population of the given prison. Volunteers would be there, in spades, looking to get the hell out of that nightmare, for all the right reasons.

    Cost? in the USA, the most expensive place in the world, for medical hardware and it's use? About $1100US, right now, per scan.

    Which is an absolute pittance for the reward and change it brings.

    Part of the aim of this, is to show that it will work.

    The end result is to take those successes...and turn to testing for sociopathic wiring, to testing for that..in people in politics, power, finance and military, and so on.

    Hell, I'd actually have it on my resume:

    "Tested to be nil for sociopathic wiring, by accredited agency so and so". Another form of being bonded.
    Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant
    Agreed…
    …but, you need to get legislation past the non-imprisoned sociopathic majority who, apart from writing the laws, profit by having a high prison population and more generally are against the idea of saving public money, since the public coffers are designed to be looted and the loot goes straight into their pockets.

    Not a negative comment, just pinpointing the challenge (and thanks Carmody for bumping this important thread of yours).

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

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    Quote Posted by Silkie (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Just had a thought.

    The prisons systems of the world, could move from imprisonment, to actual rehabilitation.

    To brain-scan every entry, and then place them in designated areas, according to their wiring type. To separate the true sociopath, from the rest of the prison population.

    The rest of the population will immediately settle down and then one can move toward actual and real rehabilitation of those who can be rehabilitated.

    Right now, the mess is so bad, in most prisons and most countries, that the sociopaths, the true ones, are so bad, that they end up creating a permanent mess inside of those prisons.

    With the brain-scanning and proper placement, the ability to reduce the prison population will be able to emerge from said mess. And that the true group who, by their wiring, cannot be rehabilitated, they can be properly contained. A sociopath can fool people, as that is part of their trick, to fit in, when they know they are different. They can't fool the brain-scan. YES, we can identify sociopathy in brain scans. Very much so.

    This is is eminently doable and in many a country and case...poses no break in privacy and rights, as we are already dealing with people who are wards of the state.

    Those prisoners who want to be in a safer population which is easier to work with and can be rehabilitated and every effort put into them....would VOLUNTEER for the brain scan process.

    Which, incidentally, is probably a decently large percentage of the population of the given prison. Volunteers would be there, in spades, looking to get the hell out of that nightmare, for all the right reasons.

    Cost? in the USA, the most expensive place in the world, for medical hardware and it's use? About $1100US, right now, per scan.

    Which is an absolute pittance for the reward and change it brings.

    Part of the aim of this, is to show that it will work.

    The end result is to take those successes...and turn to testing for sociopathic wiring, to testing for that..in people in politics, power, finance and military, and so on.

    Hell, I'd actually have it on my resume:

    "Tested to be nil for sociopathic wiring, by accredited agency so and so". Another form of being bonded.
    Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant
    Agreed…
    …but, you need to get legislation past the non-imprisoned sociopathic majority who, apart from writing the laws, profit by having a high prison population and more generally are against the idea of saving public money, since the public coffers are designed to be looted and the loot goes straight into their pockets.

    Not a negative comment, just pinpointing the challenge (and thanks Carmody for bumping this important thread of yours).
    Oh, for sure, and that would be a real obstacle to overcome. But the PTB are always saying (even if they don't mean it) that they want to reduce the prison population, make prisons safer, facilitate rehabilitation, etc., etc. Well, I say lets take them at their word, and hold them to it. Not that it would be easy, but if they fight the idea, then it would be one of those brilliant "dumb" questions to ask WHY.

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Which embodies the entire why of the thread. That the cow herd aspect of the masses would understand this and in this context, force the reform forward, and thus produce the desired domino effect.

    Which is part of the why of the power and control systems in the world, why they are screeching like insane harpies bent on utter destruction (total forced war) and the erasure of history and record..record which hides their hand in all of history... which is their normal method of hiding their influence.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

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    Oh, for sure, and that would be a real obstacle to overcome. But the PTB are always saying (even if they don't mean it) that they want to reduce the prison population, make prisons safer, facilitate rehabilitation, etc., etc. Well, I say lets take them at their word, and hold them to it. Not that it would be easy, but if they fight the idea, then it would be one of those brilliant "dumb" questions to ask WHY.
    Yes, Silkie, but this is just one issue among a backlog of similar issues. The fact is that, if you don’t live in somewhere like Venezuela, you will never have seen in your lifetime a government capable of delivering on just about anything. This is a structural problem with government, whether or not you adhere to a cabal scenario. They don’t fight ideas, they don’t keep their word, they just do their thing. This is what makes government per se sociopathic, regardless of personnel. Carmody’s idea of starting just with the prison system is intended to get round this stumbling-block, but it would only work from the grassroots up. Imagine a one-off prison director with such notions: he would implement them on his own authority and maybe his results would tempt others to follow suit – but probably only for the wrong reasons, e.g. financial profit.

    David Wilcock has reported on research into the treatment of various items in a pyramid structure, which sharpens razor blades and affects salt in a way that has a beneficial effect on prison inmates. Now if you could get suppliers of table salt say to store their salt at some stage in a pyramid structure instead of a normal silo, this could have a positive effect on the whole population, not by identifying but by offsetting any problem cases: if it works on prisoners, it should work on politicians as well. This is the sort of minor operation on a minor commodity with a major outcome that could be decide by some very minor official or executive and that just might work.

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    Quote Posted by Silkie (here)
    Oh, for sure, and that would be a real obstacle to overcome. But the PTB are always saying (even if they don't mean it) that they want to reduce the prison population, make prisons safer, facilitate rehabilitation, etc., etc. Well, I say lets take them at their word, and hold them to it. Not that it would be easy, but if they fight the idea, then it would be one of those brilliant "dumb" questions to ask WHY.
    Yes, Silkie, but this is just one issue among a backlog of similar issues. The fact is that, if you don’t live in somewhere like Venezuela, you will never have seen in your lifetime a government capable of delivering on just about anything. This is a structural problem with government, whether or not you adhere to a cabal scenario. They don’t fight ideas, they don’t keep their word, they just do their thing. This is what makes government per se sociopathic, regardless of personnel. Carmody’s idea of starting just with the prison system is intended to get round this stumbling-block, but it would only work from the grassroots up. Imagine a one-off prison director with such notions: he would implement them on his own authority and maybe his results would tempt others to follow suit – but probably only for the wrong reasons, e.g. financial profit.
    I know, and I agree. We are really very far gone, now. Maybe such a program would have to wait until after the collapse. But Carmody's post has the beginnings of a solution to our problem, even if it has to wait for more auspicious times.

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    As Bronson said, "only at the point of dyin'" (when Frank asks what he is after, from being frank's dark shadow, all those years) (warning, spoiler!). Most scenarios have the world choking the controllers to death, banging their heads on the floor, with absolutely NO way out for them. Zero. All avenues of any kind, gone.

    that is the kind of condition it takes for a human avatar to 'give'. For an ego to 'give' (way), for it to let go. You have to die inside your mind. Literally, with zero potential for a way out. Not one ****ing straw. Nothing.

    Until that point, and even within it, if there is even a whisper in the mind of a way for another single heartbeat, the ego system will demand that it remain in total animal level control of all thought formation.

    This is why the Buddhists and others say that 'change comes from within'. It's due to the extreme level morbid bloodletting finality of the ego/body/emotional control grid inside of each and every avatar/human.

    In some ways, it has to be like that, otherwise the avatar system would not work. Rubber baby buggy bumpers.

    This thread is about the kind of disarming, the kind of backing down that can take place, and defuse the situation from being a total morbidity confrontation. As this is avatar against avatar, external projection against external projection...and that has a nearly zero chance of a equitable outcome.

    The backdoor of disarming the control levers -the sociopath foot soldiery.... is the deal, here.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Hopefully, their desire for self-preservation will lead to their own downfall.

    p.s. Once Upon a Time in the West; one of the best movies ever made.

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    Hopefully, their desire for self-preservation will lead to their own downfall.

    p.s. Once Upon a Time in the West; one of the best movies ever made.
    Or The Lord of the Rings (the book):

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    The illusion of a crowning moment of ultimate achievement is actually the cause of your undoing. This is the message at the end of The Lord of the Rings where the actual final clutching of the coveted ring sends both Gollum and the ring toppling into the abyss. There is no ultimate prize, just what people in business call milestones.

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    A new generation is already here who will be so astute and perceptive that they will easily recognize the sociopaths among them. Just give them 15 more years to become adults. Maybe even less.

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    It looks like it is finally beginning to take effect....


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    The resistance movement against US prisons continues to grow.

    Quote “We have to shut down the prisons,” Council, known as Kinetik, one of the founders of the Free Alabama Movement, told me by phone from the Holman Correctional Facility in Escambia County, Ala. He has been in prison for 21 years, serving a sentence of life without parole. “We will not work for free anymore. All the work in prisons, from cleaning to cutting grass to working in the kitchen, is done by inmate labor. [Almost no prisoner] in Alabama is paid. Without us the prisons, which are slave empires, cannot function. Prisons, at the same time, charge us a variety of fees, such as for our identification cards or wrist bracelets, and [impose] numerous fines, especially for possession of contraband. They charge us high phone and commissary prices. Prisons each year are taking larger and larger sums of money from the inmates and their families. The state gets from us millions of dollars in free labor and then imposes fees and fines. You have brothers that work in kitchens 12 to 15 hours a day and have done this for years and have never been paid.”

    “We do not believe in the political process,” said Ray, who spoke from the St. Clair Correctional Facility in Springville, Ala., and who is serving life without parole. “We are not looking to politicians to submit reform bills. We aren’t giving more money to lawyers. We don’t believe in the courts. We will rely only on protests inside and outside of prisons and on targeting the corporations that exploit prison labor and finance the school-to-prison pipeline. We have focused our first boycott on McDonald’s. McDonald’s uses prisoners to process beef for paddies and package bread, milk, chicken products. We have called for a national Stop Campaign against McDonald’s. We have identified this corporation to expose all the others. There are too many corporations exploiting prison labor to try and take them all on at once.”

    “We are not going to call for protests outside of statehouses,” Ray went on. “Legislators are owned by corporations. To go up there with the achy breaky heart is not going to do any good. These politicians are in it for the money. If you are fighting mass incarceration, the people who are incarcerated are not in the statehouse. They are not in the parks. They are in the prisons. If you are going to fight for the people in prison, join them at the prison. The kryptonite to fight the prison system, which is a $500 billion enterprise, is the work strike. And we need people to come to the prisons to let guys on the inside know they have outside support to shut the prison down. Once we take our labor back, prisons will again become places for correction and rehabilitation rather than centers of corporate profit.”
    Understand that this prison system is interlocked with police, the courts, and the involved corporations...via the extreme penetration of secret society freemasonry in all four.

    Problem situations cannot be corrected unless the true question is asked. Hidden mechanisms must be exposed so the scope of the issue/question can be seen.

    One could even consider the fulcrum of the affair lies in the condition that almost no single judge in the western system of justice is outside of freemasonry.

    I would suspect, but not know, that freemasons might argue that they hold the system from anarchy and collapse. Realistically, the penetration of parasitism within and of freemasony and the given four systems ---says otherwise. Time gives rise to collapse and decay of all systems, especially in the idea of parasitism of sociopaths and psychopaths, as they possess no other motion or state of being. They go to where their food and life --is.

    In a hierarchical pyramid system such as freemasonry, one that is hidden and thus not subject to the cleansing influence of observation by the public...it is that - in the scope of the logic of how humans operate...that the passage of time dictates the eventuality that parasitical control of such a system is a near 100% given reality. Given time, all pyramid systems that involve humans fall to this reality. And freemasonry has certainly been given time.

    The parasite always believes it is of benefit and importance in systems, it has no other position. Whether it is infiltration of freemasonry or if it is simple delusional tactics in recruiting and the fundamentals of freemasonry, or any other condition or state...this is not important.

    The record of what it is, what it brings, is important. And the record states that freemasony represents, binds together...in and of something that is most in appearance to a hidden oligarchical fascism.

    If this were not true, we would see evidence, living moving rolling evidence and a record... stating otherwise. We do not.

    Again, for the record, I have family members and people I know who are freemasons. They are good people, all of them. Yet the record and flow of freemasonry bears the evidential appearance of being damaged and torn in a way that beggars belief.

    There is evidence, historical evidence, and even logic illustrates..the idea that humanity will not be cleansing itself, until secret systems are exposed and those systems go to war with one another in a very public way. The secrecy wall must be broken, the layers of hidden systems must go public...or nothing changes.


    "To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?" --(apparently misattributed to) Voltaire

    Voltaire was apparently raised to the 33rd degree of freemasonry, upon his deathbed. IIRC, Benjamin Franklin was present and involved. The complex misrepresented irony is not wasted upon me.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    A new generation is already here who will be so astute and perceptive that they will easily recognize the sociopaths among them. Just give them 15 more years to become adults. Maybe even less.
    The problem is not that the new generation does not recognize sociopaths, they do right away, first glance, already. The problem is now two fold: they recoginize the sociopaths but there is too many sociopatic beings to be handled by a few clear seeing individuals on one hand, the number of sociopatic behavior/beings having increased a lot.

    And in those that are not sociopathics, they are often damaged, with ADD, Dyslexia, motor impairments, anything that has been pushed on humans to damage us, therefore the energy and mind organisation to take care of it is not there.

    However, one form of resistance is the "passive unmovable" stance. They just won't do anything by force, they passively resist. So a psycho is asking for something, they just do not do it. Which is great to observe.
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    ...The problem is now two fold: they recoginize the sociopaths but there is too many sociopatic beings to be handled by a few clear seeing individuals on one hand, the number of sociopatic behavior/beings having increased a lot...
    Another aspect of the problem is that psychopaths corrupt any and every system they get into, and they are in all of our systems, as we know.

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    further in the above quoted article:

    Quote The three prisoners said that until the prison-industrial complex was dismantled there would be no prison reform. They said books such as Stokely Carmichael’s “Ready for Revolution” and Michelle Alexander’s “The New Jim Crow,” along with the failure of prison reform movements, convinced them that the only hope to battle back against a prison system that contains 25 percent of the world’s prisoners was to organize resistance. And they find no solace in a black president.

    “To say that we have a black president does not say anything,” Ray said. “The politicians are the ones who orchestrated this system. They are either directly involved as businessmen—many are already millionaires or billionaires, or they are controlled by millionaires and billionaires. We are not blindsided by titles. We are looking at what is going on behind the scenes. We see a coordinated effort by the Koch brothers, ALEC [the American Legislative Exchange Council] and political action committees that see in prisons a business opportunity. Their goal is to increase earnings. And once you look at it like this, it does not matter if we have a black or white president. That is why the policies have not changed. The laws, such as mandatory minimum [sentences], were put in place by big business so they would have access to cheap labor. The anti-terrorism laws were enacted to close the doors on the access to justice so people would be in prison longer. Big business finances campaigns. Big business writes the laws and legislation. And Obama takes money from these people. He is as vested in this system as they are.”
    Now, the 'mandatory minimum sentences' are a thing that Stephen Harper has and is trying hard to bring to Canada.

    As well, one of our members was involved in a construction project for 'super-prisons', in Canada. to build the infrastructure for fascist police states in Canada. Yet, there is no call for these prisons, there is no prisoners to put in them.

    This means that if a person cannot see the connection of Stephen Harper to Oligarchical fascism in the USA, his direct attempts to institute it fully into Canada, then that person would have to be pretty darned blind.

    What we are looking at is the obvious open moves of a hidden system.... of attempting to bring a sociopathic and psychopathic fascist police state into Canada, one originated from and within the USA system.

    That, at heart, Stephen Harper, and all he is connected to and move and shifts and does things for..... that he bears the open signs of being a closet fascist.

    Keep it simple, in the end. Simple plans work best.

    The command and direction appears to be: create the totalitarian north American police state, perpetuate fear in the population to maintain control and a controllable slave state, push war with the east and Russia; and tear down Europe and push it into Russia and china, like cannon fodder (attempt of creating a fate for Europe: control and use it...in one kill shot).

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    In Nazi Germany the fascists put a certain percentage of the population into jails and used them as a work force..and forced to manufacture and produce 85% of the NAZI military's soft goods.

    In the USA, after the fascists and the banks financed the Nazi's in the first place and got their investment back.. in the form of importing vast numbers of Nazi's and Nazi scientists. the same skull & bones/cia/nazi bankers/Illuminati/Freemason crew..that crew has managed to do everything in their power get..now..at this time....in the USA..the same percentage of the population in the jails..and manufacturing ...that wanted 85% of the US military's soft goods. Be it enforced corporate work or enforced government work.

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    the same fascists started the zero tolerance drug laws, be it democratic, (Rockefeller NY state-70's) or Republican (Regan war on drugs-80's)

    What they got:

    --massive financing and expansion of the police forces and surveillance programs.

    --Massive financing AND privatization of the prison systems. (profit system and outside of government oversight and scrutiny)

    --free labor for major corporations tied to government through the military system of awarded contracts. (profit system and outside of government oversight and scrutiny)

    --the creation of the DEA to move CIA drugs and money around for the financing of skull & bones black ops programs. (profit system and outside of government oversight and scrutiny)

    All of this done literally on the backs of the public, in all ways.

    Part of my point is that people n the USA think that they would not be capable of living in a fascist state like the Nazi's had without noticing...... and how could the Germans fall for it? So may people in prison systems and camps, working for the war machine!!

    Well guess what, the people in the USA are living that exact same nightmare and just like the Germans....they did not... and are not noticing.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    One in five CEOs are psychopaths, new study finds

    Around one in five corporate bosses are psychopaths - a proportion similar to that among prisoners - according to a new study.

    Research conducted by forensic psychologist Nathan Brooks from Bond University found 21 per cent of 261 corporated professionals had clinically significant psychopathic traits.

    Characteristics such as an inability to empathise, superficiality and insincerity are all associated with the condition.

    Mr Brooks said the findings suggested businesses should screen employees according to their personality features, rather than simply their skills.

    A type of “successful psychopath” who may be inclined to unethical or illegal practices has been allowed into the top ranks of companies because of the way firms hire, according to Mr Brooks.

    Along with researchers Katarina Fritzon of Bond University and Simon Croom of the University of San Diego, Mr Brooks presented the study at the Australian Psychological Society’s annual congress in Melbourne.

    "We've looked at around 1,000 people, and the supply chain management study that involved 261 corporate professionals - was the most interesting," he told ABC.

    Mr Brookes says that figure "shared similarities to what we would find in a prison population".

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It's getting there, slowly but surely.....

    Please understand that a 'general prison population', in a given prison...is an exceedingly dangerous place to be.

    Now imagine putting that crew in control of the future of the world, via global corporatism and it's integration with the same sort of people who are in politics.

    We're dealing with people who are clinically proven to be dangerous inhumane nutbars and fascist ones at that.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    I am not surprised one iota. And those psychos do hire obedient minions. And the rest of those companies live in fear of losing their bread and butter, so they remain silent.

    Part of the receipe to counter this is certainly individual self respect and self knowledge. And... there is certainly more receipes to find, easy to apply - I have to check in my soul for an answer that could become global, I see no other ways, from higher up to observe the bottom down..

    Thanks for reviving this thread. There might be other who will give their ideas and know how - but this is exactly why I wanted to proceed further with the Parkes thread, to find those receipes.

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    One in five CEOs are psychopaths, new study finds

    Around one in five corporate bosses are psychopaths - a proportion similar to that among prisoners - according to a new study.

    Research conducted by forensic psychologist Nathan Brooks from Bond University found 21 per cent of 261 corporated professionals had clinically significant psychopathic traits.

    Characteristics such as an inability to empathise, superficiality and insincerity are all associated with the condition.

    Mr Brooks said the findings suggested businesses should screen employees according to their personality features, rather than simply their skills.

    A type of “successful psychopath” who may be inclined to unethical or illegal practices has been allowed into the top ranks of companies because of the way firms hire, according to Mr Brooks.

    Along with researchers Katarina Fritzon of Bond University and Simon Croom of the University of San Diego, Mr Brooks presented the study at the Australian Psychological Society’s annual congress in Melbourne.

    "We've looked at around 1,000 people, and the supply chain management study that involved 261 corporate professionals - was the most interesting," he told ABC.

    Mr Brookes says that figure "shared similarities to what we would find in a prison population".

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It's getting there, slowly but surely.....

    Please understand that a 'general prison population', in a given prison...is an exceedingly dangerous place to be.

    Now imagine putting that crew in control of the future of the world, via global corporatism and it's integration with the same sort of people who are in politics.

    We're dealing with people who are clinically proven to be dangerous inhumane nutbars and fascist ones at that.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Just had a thought.

    The prisons systems of the world, could move from imprisonment, to actual rehabilitation.

    To brain-scan every entry, and then place them in designated areas, according to their wiring type. To separate the true sociopath, from the rest of the prison population.

    The rest of the population will immediately settle down and then one can move toward actual and real rehabilitation of those who can be rehabilitated.

    Right now, the mess is so bad, in most prisons and most countries, that the sociopaths, the true ones, are so bad, that they end up creating a permanent mess inside of those prisons.

    With the brain-scanning and proper placement, the ability to reduce the prison population will be able to emerge from said mess. And that the true group who, by their wiring, cannot be rehabilitated, they can be properly contained. A sociopath can fool people, as that is part of their trick, to fit in, when they know they are different. They can't fool the brain-scan. YES, we can identify sociopathy in brain scans. Very much so.

    This is is eminently doable and in many a country and case...poses no break in privacy and rights, as we are already dealing with people who are wards of the state.

    Those prisoners who want to be in a safer population which is easier to work with and can be rehabilitated and every effort put into them....would VOLUNTEER for the brain scan process.

    Which, incidentally, is probably a decently large percentage of the population of the given prison. Volunteers would be there, in spades, looking to get the hell out of that nightmare, for all the right reasons.

    Cost? in the USA, the most expensive place in the world, for medical hardware and it's use? About $1100US, right now, per scan.

    Which is an absolute pittance for the reward and change it brings.

    Part of the aim of this, is to show that it will work.

    The end result is to take those successes...and turn to testing for sociopathic wiring, to testing for that..in people in politics, power, finance and military, and so on.

    Hell, I'd actually have it on my resume:

    "Tested to be nil for sociopathic wiring, by accredited agency so and so". Another form of being bonded.
    Thanks to Herve I found this thread.

    I have to ask...

    After reading this post.. says to me that some assumptions must be held for the points made in the post to be valid.

    The first assumption is that one's "brain" permanently defines them throughout their life. This says that no matter who you are, you are either a sociopath or not and that this condition is permanent.

    And this then suggests to me a deeper assumption - the assumption that matter is preeminent... as a cosmological metaphysical world view.

    What this says to me is that it is an established fact that any human being who at whatever point in their life a test like this is supposed to be valid (I am assuming that testing a 6 month old baby might not show sociopathy whereas later in that being's life, the test might show sociopathy) that failing this test ('fail' to mean that they tested "sociopathic") means that this individual is a threat to all the rest of humanity that passes the test and thus should be separated from the rest until death (or perhaps something else... but that something else is likely what only a sociopath would recommend).

    This says that no one can ever fail and ever have any hope of change... ever meaning for the rest of this one natural life.

    Now I have read that this is a widely held opinion but I have to ask this one question. What if one single person failed the test (meaning the test deems they are a sociopath) and yet... over years of continued testing, they reached a point where they began to pass the test (meaning they do not test to be a sociopath)... how then would the idea to test for the purpose of identifying and then implementing consequences which would last that individual's entire life ever make sense?

    There was a member here named Chicodoodoo who I encountered after he left Avalon who was on a mission to have this sort of testing become mandatory for anyone who might be in a position of power and/or control over others and so I remember going through this whole discussion with him and had these same questions.

    And it turned out that what I discovered that was underneath the whole surface discussion of sociopathy was that Chicodoodoo held a metaphysical world view based on materialism. Meaning that the only way the argument for testing and labeling (permanently) would stand up is within the framework of that world view.

    What if that world view is wrong? What if consciousness has primacy? What if individuated consciousness is one's core? What if then that core made changes where their physical body (including brain wave patterns) could change?

    And what if we decided we would never allow for that?

    Who then might actually be the sociopaths?
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Quote Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
    The first assumption is that one's "brain" permanently defines them throughout their life. This says that no matter who you are, you are either a sociopath or not and that this condition is permanent.

    And this then suggests to me a deeper assumption - the assumption that matter is preeminent... as a cosmological metaphysical world view.

    I would like to review the term "sociopath".


    Quote Not only is the definition of sociopath complex, but the very word itself is complicated. Scientists and lay people alike use different words for this disorder.
    I plug sociopath into Google and this is the first thing that pops up.


    Quote a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
    Now what exactly do they mean by antisocial?


    Quote an·ti·so·cial
    ˌan(t)ēˈsōSHəl,ˌanˌtīˈsōSHəl/
    adjective
    adjective: antisocial; adjective: anti-social
    • 1.
      contrary to the laws and customs of society; devoid of or antagonistic to sociable instincts or practices.
    Now for myself this makes sense.
    I could read that phrase like twenty times and it kind of sings to me.
    Contrary to the laws and customs of society.
    Now in a nutshell what is so bad about that? Society as a whole is well,,,,not exactly churning out remarkable examples of human beings as of late.
    Contrary to the laws and customs of society basically says to me not as easily brainwashed by society as the rest of us are.
    And this is where I feel sociopaths are naturally empowered souls entering our world.
    Sociopaths are souls who are not so easily brainwashed by society as the rest of us.
    For a moment contemplate on what the rules of society are for you and how they manifest in your consciousness.
    How do the rules of society control us?
    I'll tell you how.
    Through fear.
    Society keeps it's members in line through intense fear that has been driven into our hearts and minds since we were sucking on our mother's bosom.
    This fear becomes a prison, a prison that most of us never break free from though out our entire life.
    But sociopaths are not imprisoned as we are.
    This prison affects our minds, our hearts, our ability to express ourself and our energy because fear is a huge consumer of energy.
    Sociopaths are unencumbered by such.
    Natural born sociopaths are often born with a sage like freedom from social constraints, constraints that often take people so long to free themselves from that they are often considered some kind of master, and even then they may not achieve the freedom a natural born sociopath enjoys.
    Sociopaths can go wrong, sure. Especially if they are raised wrong and or experienced excessive trauma as a child.
    But placed in the right settings sociopaths can actually do an amazing amount of good for the world, capable of affecting great change through challenging and standing up to social norms which may be wrong and or unjust.


    I personally feel it would be a detriment to humanity to try and implement some type of method that would remove sociopaths from society. I also believe in soul castes much like the Hindu's do. I believe there are only so many soul types, and that the sociopath is a naturally occurring soul caste that reflects an aspect of God that will not be subjucated so easily.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    This is about pendulums and swing. Corrective force, nothing more.

    One might try to erase psychopathy and sociopathy from the human race. And ultimately, I think that such an effort would bring harm, yes. Humanity needs range and shortening it does it no favours.

    However, extremes and direction shifts that are too far from center (leading to dissolution), do indeed require some form of correction.


    Like we see in politics, the fake news push from the actual fake news...what we will find is that the forces that one tries to correct via the thrust of this thread..those forces will try to infiltrate and misuse this sort of idea and methodology. They will do it first, if one does not, and they will do it without the intended public awareness that this thread is attempting to address. I'm saying they will come up with the story first and make sure it is represented with their emplaced memes. to control name, create and supply all analogies and means to a scenario, simply by doing it first.

    That's why they had to get on the Fake News bandwagon, and overrun the earlier but smaller efforts, those earlier efforts being aimed against them.

    This is a reverse logic 'in your face' tactic that the Israeli press (in my observation) is unbelievably famous for.

    The groundwork to keep such an effort Closer to the truth of what needs be, is what is going on here. the saying of it and the fleshing out of it in correct manner, is the deal. First.

    Before others lay down fake groundwork, or other similar but 'horrific for humanity' efforts.

    As that is what they are going to do. That's what is coming.

    So... say it first, say it well.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Yea Soros calling Trump evil .........

    Foreign financed operators calling American sovereignty activists Russian agents.....
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