WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Krist:

Plunk along in your "spare" time, when you are not driving heavy equipment. Dennis's heat pump is not really difficult to understand, and Mr. Mentor's engine is also easy to understand. Understanding a little thermodynamics helps. I look forward to your observations/questions.

Best,

Wade

[Servant Limestone]

Hi Wade:

Yeah, sorry. It's "Uncle Howard", not Uncle Ed. I tend to mix them both. I think because I always thought of Uncle Howard as someone who is still alive and I tend to associate Uncle Noam with Uncle Howard more than Uncle Noam with Uncle Ed. I've corrected the passages.

Rest in peace, Comrade Howard Zinn.

Obviously, as my life journey to FE has thought me, the non-violent religious/spiritual anarchist varieties of modern political thought through figures like Gandhi might have come the closest in comprehending FE based abundance in the radleft but they still fall way short because the non-violent spiritual anarchism of Gandhi, as great a person as Gandhi is and as admirable his beliefs are, still does not consider the possibility that "heaven on Earth" is a possibility more than he can imagine through FE. Without a deep spiritual understanding about the reality of death and eternal life, especially believing in the Divine and the possibility of Earth's role in a Cosmic Plan, it's easy to see non-violent pacifism as something totally useless in making resistance. Of course, we know that seeking a peaceful obsolescence of capitalism is our goal. That's a pacifistic oriented offensive against the prevailing capitalist system. But it's even worse for those who got frequently exposed to the realities of warfare like Chris Hedges. He can believe in non-violent resistance as key to social change but he can be perfectly fine in using a gun as a last resort. This thing at least appear to makes sense in our current Epoch with the Zero-Sum Game and the struggle for physical and material survival. But it doesn't make sense in the Free Energy Epoch. That's what I believe. As Martin Luther King knows, violence only begets more violence. The hardest part in this pursuit is knowing that to get to the next Epoch, we have to use the methods that align with the nature of the next Epoch to come. The ones that make sense the closest to the next energy source that we've got to harness. And it's only through methods infused with love that we can probably get into the next Epoch. And this is the greatest revolution we'll have in history. It's more than we can imagine. The previous Epochs are almost essentially similar to each other in terms of how they brought change. But this next one is something else. Coercion of elites is not going to be the key. That's a very radical thought by itself. While I sympathize with the anarcho-primitivist movement and the anarcho-naturist movement about the needed destruction of civilization and the return of humanity in living peacefully with nature, it also misses the dimension that we can create an entirely new civilization that is not going to rape the Mother Earth anymore.

Thanks,

SL

[Wade Frazier]

Hi SL:

When I see posts like that, I really get the sense that my crazy idea might work. Brilliant little post. You see the paradigm that I am imparting in a way that few ever do. I have painstakingly written about my journey to get where I am today, and it was not until reading Uncle Bucky that the paradigm that I had been groping toward for nearly 30 years began to crystallize. A love-based practical path to abundance has never been attempted before, and as my readers know, I have wedded it to high sentience, of the comprehensive kind that Bucky promoted. I think that all of those traits are needed, as I have written. I learned those lessons the hard way over many years, and shortening the learning curve for people like you is what my work is about.

My work is the most subversive of all to capitalism, but the only "confrontation" that I plan to have with it is when we deliver a working FE device into their hands, with the message: "This represents the end of the world as you know it, welcome to heaven."

More later, but it is off to chores for now.

Best,

Wade

[Servant Limestone]

Hi Wade:

It's a beautiful approach. I can feel the sheer love just imagining it. It almost makes me want to cry with happiness. It's an approach that can also bring a lot of happiness to our Mother Earth. She'll smile fondly to us in the use of that approach and see it succeed. I'll look forward to that day. Based on the climate change projections, we still have at least 5 years. We're getting very, very close to the climax point of "Utopia or Oblivion?". Whatever happens, I am very proud to live in this planet and interact with people here. I have the high honor of meeting people like you and also others here. Something tells me that this is all going to be very beneficial for our souls and continuing journey, whatever the outcome of this effort is. It might not yet be easy for me to accept an outcome that is not in our favor, but I know that I have to just let it go. But it's hard. I can't even imagine it for people like you, Wade, who invested and sacrificed a lot. My heart reaches out to you.

I'll look forward to a future that we'll get to interact in this forum with military people and find out about their experiences and yet despite of that, how they got to understand the importance of a total non-violent approach to FE. It's probably a one hell of an experience for that person. Especially female scientists and radical feminists getting here. It's part of the reason why I made my little posts before in page 262.

Thanks,

SL

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Back to science a little. The reactions to my big essay have been interesting. Its strongest endorsements generally have come from professional scientists, some of prominence. The scientifically illiterate are often critical or dismissive, usually because I do not endorse some fringe position that I do not consider valid (Cremo, Velikovsky, the more way out 9/11 hypotheses, etc.), but they cannot defend their positions other than parroting the arguments of those fringe authors, and they never deal with the contrary evidence like a scientist would.

My essay is far from an exercise in orthodoxy, and I venture into areas where I believe, for very good reason, that orthodox science falls short, such as those technologies in Godzilla's Golden Hoard, which invalidates some cornerstones of orthodox theory. But that essay is largely orthodox science and history, or at least I tried to hew to their ideal processes, but I also stick my neck out in a few areas, and one of them regards the control of fire. Wrangham's Cooking Hypothesis is one of the recent "big idea" hypotheses, and it has a lot going for it. It won't be easy to falsify, but alternative hypotheses and evidence exists for his primary tenets, such as the adaptations to softer food and ground sleeping of Homo erectus, and where the energy came from to fuel the growing brain of the human line. Positive evidence for Wrangham's hypothesis is the molecular evidence in the honeyguide, the enhanced digestibility of cooked foods, and new tools are allowing scientists to roll back the date of the control of fire. I will not be surprised if they roll it back to Wrangham's two million year number.

The control of fire was the great, unprecedented feat of the human line, and I strongly suspect that it was learned once and spread. I thus consider it highly interesting that those "hobbits" are likely island-dwarfed australopiths or habilines, and they controlled fire. Will Wrangham's hypothesis survive intact? I doubt it, but I expect that many of its pieces will survive, and I will follow the development of the related scientific findings with great interest. Since science is always being shaken up with new findings, I plan to periodically revise my big essay for new findings, like college textbooks do today (such as Cowen's History of Life, which in ways is the closest thing existing to the first half of my essay).

I am in the middle of reading Peter Ward's Gorgon, which is about his fieldwork relating to the Permian extinction. It is truly fascinating stuff to somebody like me, and I have nine of Ward's books. He is a popularizer in its finest sense.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

[Krishna]

Interesting interview with Richard Wrangham of the cooked food hypothesis.

SL wrote:
- China, the second largest economy in Asia by 1960 after Japan, was isolated from the rest of the world through the Maoist revolution and the effects of the Great Leap Forward.
- India was also largely isolated through the License Raj with problems associated with the "Hindu rate of growth" of 4% annual growth and the country just can't lift its hundreds of millions of citizens from poverty.

I don't have much to say about Philippines but I paid much more attention to the human development of India and China.

The "Great Leap" was a disaster for the people of China, and the License Raj had negative effects for India.
However Mao's policies of education and health care set up China for it post 1979 economic success. Likewise India's lack of investment in education and health care held back (and still holds back) India post its 1990 reforms.

All the countries that did well economically had strong education first before economic growth (except for oil based economies and maybe mineral based ones too). e.g. see
Mean years of schooling for women 25-34 and Max Roser's graphs on literacy

I think education is the primary axis on which we should judge development of a country or the quality of its leaders esp. w.r.t. to the global south.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

The demographic transition is partly about education, but that is also a thorny issue. What kind of education? Rote "learning"? Indoctrination into scarcity-based ideologies? I have found that the "smarter" and more "educated" are often the most opposed to the idea of FE, and have the most sophisticated arguments for why it is impossible or undesirable, believe it or not. So, education in today's world is a mixed bag, for sure. Both Roads worlds had education; one was indoctrinated into scarcity and fear, while the other had true education in a loving and abundant environment.

In the world based on abundance that I envision, there will be government and regulation, but it will not look like anything on Earth today. Peacekeeping grandmothers will help ensure a safe transition, and so-called government will be concerned with the welfare of all life on Earth. There will be both planning and freedom. It will not be one of those either-or decision-making processes, but both-and, as abundance reigns. Government will be charged with ensuring abundance and safety, and little more. Again, almost nobody on Earth today is able or willing to even imagine it, which is Godzilla's greatest triumph.

The great failing of capitalism, communism, and all political-economic "isms" is that they are coercive. Capitalism feigns that it is the "free" system, but Godzilla is capitalism on steroids. Classical and neoclassical economists, with few exceptions, such as Marx, could always be counted on to ignore the coercive aspects of capitalism. Own all the means of production, and acquire that ownership via violence and other dirty tricks, and you can feign that your system is free, and you can play philanthropist with your ill-gotten lucre.

To that interview with him, Wrangham proposed his coalitionary killing model to describe chimp warfare, but human violence is more calculating and goes pretty far back, and it looks like inter-human violence escalated as the easy meat disappeared, as humans became super-predators. Those are fascinating/horrifying subjects, and I welcome discussion of them, as I do all subjects that my work covers.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I rarely do it, partly because it takes so long and I am hard of hearing, but I listened to that Wrangham interview. Not bad, and gives an introduction to his work. I cite Catching Fire and Demonic Males plenty in my big essay, and the subject matter of those works is highly important. The great ape contrasts with humans have been highly educational, IMO. As Wrangham and others state plenty, our past, or the chimp past, is the past, and even if some proclivities have been baked into our biology, even our DNA, we are an allegedly sentient species, and are not at the mercy of our genes or our history. There have been rather bizarre trends in the past, which are still with us, that have fatalist arguments that what we are is baked into our biology and that we can't help ourselves, and at the other pole are blank slate advocates who argue that there are no inherent differences between men and women, or even other species. Both are extreme positions and are not grounded in the reality of life on Earth, especially for an allegedly sentient species such as humanity.

The doubling of the bonobo food supply provided female chimps with the ability to radically reorganize their societies, which are far more peaceful than any human society. Many aspects of humanity and our societies, which are called human "nature" today, will disappear in a world based on economic abundance, which necessarily means energy abundance. When people argue against the changes that FE can bring, and are even openly fearful of them, they are no different than any human would have been before any of the Epochal Events (think of it like a cat that is put into a new environment ). Their fears and addictions to their adaptations to scarcity are normal. That does not mean that it is healthy or realistic, but only typical, which always blows away those new to the FE field, as almost all they encounter is fear and denial, and they begin to wonder if humanity is a sentient species. The potential for true sentience is there, if rarely realized. Reduce the fear and the neocortex is more engaged, and true glimmers of sentience begin to appear.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

It took me nearly 40 years to arrive at the approach that I am taking today, and I recently had an opportunity to discuss it with a pal. As my readers know, I am an avid hiker, I do at least one backpack a year, and I already did one this year. I am not sure how many more years I can do it, but one pal backpacked into his 80s, so I might have a good run still ahead of me, but I already got my fair share in this lifetime, and anything more is gravy.

I usually lead the backpack trips that I do. I led the second backpack that I ever did, when I was 19, and have led most backpacks that I have done, meaning that I planned them and recruited pals to go. I learned many lessons by leading backpacks, and one of them was taking charge and not allowing myself to get badgered into doing something that I had a bad feeling about. I have faced death that way, and I want to die in bed. Many people die in the Cascades near my home each year, and it is always due to inexperience or stupidity, as falling down mountainsides, drowning in rivers and lakes, and getting lost and dying of exposure are the leading causes of death (or stunts gone awry). I do not lead many trips anymore in my increasing age, but I plan trips so that the risk is low, especially for inexperienced people with me, such as my nephew.

I am taking a similar approach with my choir efforts, and I have been accused of being a cult leader, some "my way or the highway" fanatic, and the like. But I regard those critics as the equivalent of teenage boys who want to go climb glaciers in tennis shoes. Not on my watch. I had enough of cleaning up the blood and corpses during my FE days, and my effort is going to give a very wide berth to the kinds of suicidal activities suggested by FE newbies.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

[Krishna]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
The demographic transition is partly about education, but that is also a thorny issue. What kind of education? Rote "learning"? Indoctrination <snip> So, education in today's world is a mixed bag, for sure.

Wade,
It is a mixed bag. I was talking in context of developing world, in India on average adults have not gone beyond 5th grade and even for those years the quality of schooling is very suspect. They wont have internet access and cant read English.

Right now it is expected that Indian kids born today will complete high school (12 years) with mostly rote learning.

We will have to take that raw material and work with it to build the choir. Beats 5th grade education any day. Which is why I hope that Malala succeeds in her campaign for all kids to get 12 years education.

Just like the first 4 epochs were necessary before the fifth, I think atleast high school level education might be a necessary condition to be able to understand your work.

[Servant Limestone]

Hi:

I just want to recommend reading this latest article by Chris Hedges from Truthdig called "The Lonely American".

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...rican_20150628

In a way, I can really relate to what he's saying given that the article seems to be targeted to the younger generation that's so tied to their "electronic hallucinations". And I am part of that generation from 18 to 35 years of age. Within the context of what's being done here now and in the overall history of Wade's effort of building a choir, it appears that the Internet can be a double-edged sword in striking you. At least I am also talking in light of my own personal experiences. It can strike you in one way through discovering the rather dark, messy, often unwanted truth of free energy and make you feel very lonely and isolated because virtually nobody is going to listen to you anyway. Or it can strike you the other way around by truly getting lost in these electronic hallucinations completely and yet also make you feel lonely and isolated in the end because of that continued feeling of emotional emptiness. I can really relate to the Japanese social phenomena of widespread social withdrawal by deliberately isolating one's self in a society that mixed Confucian social values in regards to hierarchy and authority, patriarchy which was institutionalized by the introduction of Buddhism to the country and then corporate capitalism and taking all of them to the next level, which alienated a lot of these people. The hikikomori took it to an almost total extreme by almost complete withdrawal. And yet, despite this withdrawal from a thoroughly hyper-corporatized society, you're still mostly lost in these electronic hallucinations of the Internet, which is also mostly corporatized. In the end, you'll end up communicating with other people in the Internet mostly to finally end your life and commit suicide. You just want someone else to be with in doing it. Capitalism as a system is indeed very all-encompassing. Its crimes is beyond all of the propaganda of a "Black Book of Communism", never mind that this "communism" is a form of state capitalism in practice. The crimes are beyond any simplistic making of a body count.

I'm looking forward to the next Epochal change which will free humanity's young people from these electronic hallucinations and the accompanying isolation and withdrawal. I see an immediate construction of free, voluntary associations of people as Kropotkin and the rest of the radical Left wanted in the first place and I can see strong social connections and new relationships be created en masse through widespread building of schools wherein people of all ages will study and realize their potential. We have re-educate ourselves again. Or maybe, we have educate ourselves. Just plainly that. Because what we got through in our younger days is not really education, as can be argued. I expect that many of us will all become very willing to go back to school and study again. We'll have a lot of time studying. And the courses will become dramatically different, aiming to get us out of collective addictions, diseases and the overall sense of isolation from each other. Once that happens, these electronic hallucinations that surrounds us will have no further use to us and we'll realized that quickly. The greatest gift is of course, a realization that we can connect ourselves deeply to the Great Source, to the Divine and realize that We are All One. That realization, which can only be really learned through experience and not by reading books, is going to totally demolish the entire system of electronic hallucinations that we have today. Ironically, we'll get far more superior technologies for communication, entertainment, and education more than the ones we use today. There's just no need for us to enjoy them mostly individually and be lost in the Internet wilderness.

I'm looking forward to that day.

Thanks,

SL

Edit: Let me post this link to a Youtube video that makes me also think of the question if humanity is a sentient species. That question alone also hits me in terms of how our political and economic ideologies wouldn't get us out of this mess. It's a bit depressing. I saw this link in one of those who commented in the same article of Hedges now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4S1...ature=youtu.be

Here is another link which also throws me off because the video is related to Chris Hedges' topic and obviously, to the entire idea of corporate mass propaganda. Look at the 6 "shortcuts" that the video talks about. Look at number 2. That alone tells you of what's going on here in our planet about the FE conundrum. Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFdCzN7RYbw

[Wade Frazier]

Hi freeknowledge:

I only need 100,000 people or so to understand my message, so that we can bring FE to the world, and I doubt that many will be those poor kids from India. I expect that most will live in industrialized nations, or like SL, have a situation in a non-industrialized nation where they can help. When FE is brought to the world, then the learning curve for the poor will become far shorter than it is today. The awakening will likely not begin until FE is delivered, just like how the previous Epochal Events initiated the radical demographic, economic, political, social, cognitive, and even anatomical changes. I don't expect it to be different this time, but 100,000 people glimpsing the next epoch, as a way to help make it happen, will be new in the human journey.

Hi SL:

Of course, FE collapses the system from within, and is completely off the radar of people such as Hedges and virtually all lefties. All of that "stop ingesting the propaganda" is band aid stuff that does not address root issues. What I have found is that scientifically illiterate people see social dynamics and retail politics, like they see money, and think that those are the levers of power and change, when they are only superficial trappings of what is really happening, like a coat of paint. We have to see deeply, if we really want to make a dent. Almost nobody is willing to do that, however, as it takes hard work and letting go of our scarcity-based conditioning. Like that video that you linked to, people always want to try the easy way out, so they take those shortcuts. It is an almost identical process to those who advocate all of those failed paths to FE, as they seek some easy answer, some effortless way to enlist the aid of the rich and powerful, to get some stampede going around those very same means of herd management that the elite use. The mass movement approach has never worked, and will never work, for epochal change, and is a big reason why I am not with Dennis anymore, as he tries all of those Level 10 approaches. You can't out-herd the master shepherd with his own tools.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Back to what I learned and how, and this post will be on faith, skepticism, and knowledge. I never liked the idea of faith, especially the kind promoted by religious and other authorities, as it was always a "faith" based on somebody else's "vision," which was always about social control. Why would anybody even want to have faith that the Bible and other stories in ancient texts are literally true? To me, it is no different than a five-year-old's faith in his/her nation, as he/she is trained to worship a flag.

I see the tales around Jesus far differently than most Christians do. For instance, take the doubting Thomas story, and for now, let's accept all of the New Testament tales as literally true. Thomas was around when Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine, did the loaves and fishes trick, and even raised the dead. When Thomas said that he would not believe that Jesus had risen from the dead until he could see his wounds, the other disciples probably said something like, "Boy, are you dense! You saw what he did, and you think that raising himself from the dead is such a big deal?" Thomas was a positivist.

I have had many "paranormal" experiences, and those in my circles have had many more. Some brought back earth-shaking inventions from their interdimensional travels, validated past-life memories against historical information, and so on. There is nothing of faith related to it, but because it deals with realms of reality that are called non-physical, materialists dismiss it, the masses call it something akin to faith, such as faith that NDEs describe real events. Like witnessing an FE device operating the same room with you, having an NDE experience is life-risking behavior, but there are plenty of ways to pursue your own paranormal experiences and become familiar enough with the evidence so that there is almost nothing of "faith" behind the "belief" that FE is possible. But like with my previous post, almost everybody seeks the easy way out, and having "faith" is one of those ways, but you get out of "faith" what you put into it.

True "skepticism" is a virtue, but what is practiced as organized skepticism is not skepticism at all, and such "skeptics" are really Establishment attack dogs who are not skeptical in the slightest toward the assumptions that they built their paradigms on. The dishonesty and even criminality of the "skeptics" was something to behold, but was really only a variation of what I learned during my FE days. The "skeptics" are probably no more dishonest and criminal than any other group. The antics of Carl Sagan, James Randi and gang are only ironic in that they presented themselves as the sober voice of reason and honesty. When anybody claims such high ground, "skepticism" toward their claims is warranted.

In my experience, the only knowledge comes from experience, not study, not watching YouTube, not learning calculus, although scientific experiments, where others can reproduce them, hews to the ideal of experience, and scientists then concoct their hypotheses to explain them. I finished Peter Ward's Gorgon this past weekend, and the agonies of scientists are aptly portrayed in it, as they had to keep returning to cliffs in Africa to get their data, sometimes risking their lives just to get there, and the data would get destroyed in lab mishaps, they needed to make more trips to get confirmatory samples, and the like. Science can be gritty business, and can be considered a disciplined way of acquiring experience.

Brian encountered the problems of being a visionary scientist, as he explored the fringes, often getting tangled in the bogus stuff and trying to extricate himself. If Sai Baba was really an avatar, with his killer bodyguards and his fake manifestations, I want my money back.

Did Neale Donald Walsch really talk to God? I doubt it pretty strongly (and there is way too much New Age Hollywood in his work). I doubt that the voice in my head was God, or the one in Dennis's head, or my friend's, or Eugene Sledge's, but was something a little closer to home, such as our souls, not the godhead (AKA Tao, etc.). Jane Roberts was always a little skeptical of just who or what Seth was, and that was a healthy attitude, I think.

In summary, faith, skepticism, and knowledge are important subjects, but have been abused by so many, particularly in a world of scarcity and fear, where everybody is trying to survive. My next post will be on truth, deception, secrecy, and lies, but for now, it is time for chores.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

This will be the first of some posts on truth, deception, secrecy, and lies. As I think back to my bookworm days from the time I could walk, I know that a love of the truth fueled my efforts from a young age. I had a brother with a criminal mind, and it was something to be raised with somebody like that, and in ways it helped prepare me for the real world.

I never resisted rituals such as the Pledge of Allegiance, and my father had me thinking that I would not quite be a man unless I had been a soldier. Before I was 20, I was a confirmed pacifist, and I was asking Easter Bunny questions upon college graduation, but it would not be until after my radicalizing days with Dennis that I really began to learn the depths of the lies I had been subjected to while growing up. It wasn't that everybody was in on the joke but me, but it was the way that all societies lie to themselves, as they develop and maintain their in-group ideologies, which are all scarcity-based, egocentric, and people are fed them from a young age, which is why they work so well. We get the lies with our mother's milk.

For people like me, discovering the depth of the lies was no fun. When Dennis and Ralph awoke to the lies of their nationalistic indoctrination, they nearly did not survive the experience. The turning point of my life was when I had my face rubbed in evil by the authorities, a few miles from where I was raised. A few months later, it was beaten into my head in no uncertain terms that the media can simply make it up as it goes, and my mother took a scrapbook of those lying articles on tour to my friends, family, and investors as she told them the story of her son the criminal. I did not begin my media studies until the next year.

In my radicalized state, nothing was sacred, and I aimed the spotlight of my awareness on everything that I had been taught while growing up. Other than the math and some of the science, I am not sure that much else held up very well to my radicalized scrutiny.

I suppose that I have become a lying specialist over the years. I found that lies of omission are the most common, but lies of commission also happen, and people who commit them are usually quite brazen about it, in psychopathic style, with an impudence that can initially be shocking, as they use Hitler's Big Lie style, which works on most people.

As Uncle Howard noted, there are other ways to deceive, such as burying the unsavory facts among grand romantic yarns. There is also self-deception, sophistry, and many other mind games that serve the ego's delusions. They almost invariably serve to justify the violations of others (usually the out-group), and sanctify the benefits that accrue to the liar/deceiver, which are nearly always economic.

I will provide some examples of them, which litter my site, but I am going to also show what I learned from them and how they influenced how I go about my work today.

Best,

Wade

[Nine]

Hi Wade,

You know I was at my therapist today concerning my adventures with the USPS and that wonderful capitalist system. And so I was talking about spirituality and my leaving the mindset of that American State Religion called the evangelical American christian whom no war was ever not supported and so we were discussing the world and how it really works and the powers that seem to run things and of course it just came to me that we are the elite and the elite are our own selves and if I might I would look into my own heart regarding war and would say that I would have done terrible things had I been a soldier and this was confirmed by a few pals at USPS who were soldiers and whom observed my behavior and demeanor under stress ...

One of my pals was actually in Viet Nam in 66 or maybe 67 and we talked about his experiences and he paid a deep price for that so called service. I told him flat out that I could have never done what he did in that war and of course he flat out disagreed and said I would have simply gone along and did what I had to do based upon what I did at USPS.

And so evil/good are in all I suppose and so if the elite are evil than so am I so to speak and so one should lean upon the teachings of Jesus whomever he was and simply love ones enemy's.

Coercion of elites is not going to be the key. That's a very radical thought by itself. While I sympathize with the anarcho-primitivist movement and the anarcho-naturist movement about the needed destruction of civilization and the return of humanity in living peacefully with nature, it also misses the dimension that we can create an entirely new civilization that is not going to rape the Mother Earth anymore.

From SL's most excellent post!

Coercion or love?

Creator or victim?

Serve self or others?

The so called elite are to be the most pitied if we do not make it as a species as for me death is an exit from this world to the one I would imagine, I would suppose eventually, and to think and to imagine is to create.

Thanx SL and of course Wade Frazier for his fine work...

Nine

[Nine]

Wade,

I have been reading...a dangerous occupation...I would suppose...

About the rebellion of 66 AD and the Jews. What fueled a revolt that lasted for decades? And so was it something to do with Jesus and his teachings?

What was taught to propel the people of Jerusalem of that time to revolt against horrible odds?

And so they responded directly with violence against the powers of their time and so we can see that this was not the proper course of action.

Only some questions and so any answers will probably only provoke more questions.....as it were...

Four Legions from Rome in 66 followed by a number of rebellions to follow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...80%93Roman_War

I did logistics for a huge US government agency and given the times that that went down the expense must have been stupendous and in that time it was one man in supply for one man as a soldier in the field and of course technology through fossil fuels has probably multiplied that by one hundred or even one thousands of times more force applied to where one would want to apply it...

And to think all of this would be obsolete if we just had some technology released by our elites and of course I would suppose the need for power would override such thoughts.

And so does integrity even trump energy? What really is political power? Upon any thought? or...

is integrity a form of energy...or better the control of such?

Who is in charge? Energy, or source or contenceitiousness or fear or hate or love or any type of energy?

Don't know...

How about the nature of our financial system Wade? That nature of investing in paper assets based upon real assets and the first to blink is the loser? I mean ...to win...one must play the game just a little bit longer....till?

Would it not be prudent as an investor of the long term to cash in ones bets now for a very longer term return?

And so this is the very opposite of our current system...

thanx Wade

Nine

[Krishna]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
Dennis's heat pump is not really difficult to understand

Very interesting Wade. If you want to heat your home to 75 F (297 Kelvin) when it is freezing (273 kelvin) outside.

The max efficiency COP is 297 / (297 - 273) = 12.3
The LamCo COP's dont seem fanciful.


Also continuing my thoughts on Human Development. The best books I read on the topic were co-authored by Amartya Sen and Jean Dreze
I especially like Hunger and Public Action
India Development and Participation
An Uncertain Glory India and its Contradictions

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Nine, those are good observations/questions. I knew you could do it. On being a soldier, it turns out that about 85-90% of men will be "good soldiers" and do the killing, even of innocents, if that is what the orders are. I know many Vietnam vets, like you do, being of our generation, and I got to hear the gruesome stories. Ralph McGehee especially appreciated this anecdote. I know people who learned to kill Southeast Asians with their bare hands. It is honorable to realize that you would have likely done your fair share of killing, if you were "following orders." But for a twist of fate, I might have been bombing Iraqi women and children.

All warfare has an economic motivation, at its root, and is born of scarcity, as Uncle Bucky noted. Eliminate scarcity, and you eliminate warfare. Godzilla and friends know this, and this is partly behind their suppression of FE. They know that is game over for elites if FE makes its appearance.

The key to FE is integrity and sentience, which is behind trying to amass my choir.

The Jewish revolts would take some time to dissect, but those were very violent times, far more so than today, proportionately, and fighting against an oppressive invader, on the periphery of the empire, was not that anomalous. During those "Peace of Rome" days, there were still invasions and revolts. Dacia, where Ilie lives, was invaded during those Jewish revolts, and there was great violence during the civil wars and uprisings that led to the Roman Empire, which was formed only a century before those Jewish revolts. People naturally want to be free, and while there is repression and slavery, there will be revolt. I was recently reading on how militarized the Antebellum South was, to put down slave uprisings. So, the Jewish uprisings were no big surprise, but Jesus would not have advocated them, and his pacifism was at odds with the ideal "Messiah" that the Jews were looking for, who would be some warrior-king who would defeat Jewish enemies. Instead, the Messiah was some Mr. Rogers character.

Hi Freeknowledge, yes, Sen is cool, and a leading Left voice. Yes, the LamCo COPs got about half of the Carnot ideal, just like the best heat engines do. In that example of yours, the LamCo heat pump got a COP of about six. This is a good place to segue back to my topic of lies and deceptions, which will be the next post.

Best,

Wade

[Krist]

A five -year- olds faith in his/her nation,as he/she is trained to worship a flag.

Yes, like this....I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible for liberty and justice for all......So many of us had this drilled so deeply into our brains,taught hand over heart every day at school before any thing else.And we were all 5 years old.
At the same time I could recognize that the continents fit together like a big puzzle,when I pointed that out to my kinder garden teacher ,she ushered me back to the lincoln logs.
Our little minds were so clear and ready to learn and this is a small example of how they were wasted.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Back to truth, lies, deceptions, and secrecy. In the early days of the LamCo heat pump, the COPs that it attained were so much higher than the standard air-to-air heat pumps that the inventors cut the performance data in half to maintain "credibility" with the engineers who laughed at the heat pump's "impossible" performance. The fact was that the LamCo COPs achieved only about half of the Carnot ideal, well within theoretical limits and at about the same level (around half) as the best heat engines of the day.

When Dennis discovered that they were cutting their performance data in half, he encountered the opposite problem that most salesmen encounter, in which they engage in puffery to sell their wares. Dennis told the LamCo inventors that he was going to tell customers what it could do, not half of what it could do.

That installation in Minnesota that got a COP of five in the winter was one of the key pieces of data that Dennis used in promoting the LamCo heat pump. In the Washington Attorney General's phony lawsuit, an allegation was that even though it was proven that the LamCo heat pump could get a COP of five in the Minnesota winter, it was not proven that it could do so in warmer Seattle. When officials were not being criminally dishonest, their arguments were stupid. Making a statement like that was not a lie, per se, but just idiotic.

However, in Ventura, the officials went a step further than they did in Seattle and tried to make the case that the heat pump did not work at all. When they did that, it was initially mind-boggling to me, and was largely behind my decision to sacrifice my life, to fly in experts who could testify to the heat pump's performance, so that Dennis could beat the fraud charges, which was the only way that even those gangsters could put Dennis away for life. It was not until Dennis got out of jail that we realized the lies of commission that Ventura County's officials engaged in, in order to make their lies of omission in court stick, as they openly lied to labs that produced that heat pump data, to intimidate them. Those were far from the only lies of commission that they told in those days, and what I learned about lies of commission was that even though they were easily exposed as lies, they only needed to work on their dupes long enough so that the bidding of the evil-minded people was done, and the lies being exposed afterward was not really a big deal. Napoleon once made a similar statement, about that later exposure of the lies was no big deal, as long as the lies initially worked. It became Hitler's MO, too.

An example of that was the incubator story that led up to the first Gulf War. It was openly fraudulent, but was only needed to sway the vote in Congress, and it being exposed afterward was really no big deal. The lie machine went into overdrive a decade later, as all the WMD lies were told about Iraq, in a Bush administration once again. It was all about the oil, as usual, and only idiots could believe any of the other rationalizations, but the USA was full of intentional idiots. Today, the lie machine has been in overdrive since the invasion of Iraq about Iran's mythical WMD, which would not be a threat to anybody even if they really existed, with Israel's (which officially does not exist, with those lies of omission that nobody believes) and the USA's nuclear arsenals aimed down their throat.

Some had the honesty to tell me that their idiocy was intentional, because if they had their eyes open and engaged their rational abilities, the nature of our immense crimes would be undeniable and their consciences could not handle it. I have had that literally admitted to me, and once by a soldier while the drums were beating for invading Iraq.

When Dennis was kangarooed into prison, the officials once again engaged in lies of both omission and commission, as they "lost" the records of his military service, college education, and that he had a wife and children, and then made up that Dennis was "convicted of fraud," in order to get him into a situation where his bunkmate would murder him. Even though the "convicted of fraud" "fact" was easily disproven, it only had to work for long enough so that Dennis was murdered. When that did not work, then the prison officials framed Dennis for being a snitch, which nearly worked.

So, lies of omission can be passed off as "innocent," even when the pattern is so clear that it cannot be honestly denied, while lies of commission exposed the liar to all with eyes to see, but only need to work on the ignorant long enough so that they did the liar's bidding. I have watched naïve people try to explain away the blatant lies of commission engaged in by Mr. Skeptic on numerous occasions. When people like me exposed his lies, he simply made up new lies. What was amazing was not his impudence, but how easily he duped prominent people in the FE field, who even defended him!

Similarly, that "raised $100 million" from his victims lie, which a leading talking head in the FE field made in 2001, gets promoted to this day by people such as Foster Gamble and others, whom I regularly see lionized in the fringe communities (I received a Thrive email from an undiscerning pal just last week). Knowingly repeating Big Lies is just as bad as making them up, especially when they are used to defame somebody. Instead of Dennis's preposterous journey being a required case study for all FE newbies, almost all that is seen and heard are lies (or silence) about Dennis, as the field remains in its state of arrested development.

That is the ugly and evil aspect of lying, but the more sophisticated and arguably deadlier deceptions are usually lies of omission, or even a brief mention of the truth, but it is then buried under a raft of romantic notions that shrink the crimes down to something that can be disregarded as a minor blemish on a glorious tale. The Columbus Myth is a textbook example, in which initiating the greatest demographic catastrophe in the human journey gets swept under the carpet as a minor footnote in a tale of glory that makes a mass-murdering thief into a national hero.

Another imperial example is how George Washington's greatest achievement/crime has been completely swept under the table by his biographers, while outright fairy tales were concocted about him. When challenged about the literal fairy tales, they were defended as necessary for creating an American mythology separate from Europe's. Americans needed their own set of nationalistic lies, separate from the folk tales told in Europe to deify the elite.

Those kinds of lies of omission were the most common that I encountered among imperial hacks, such as them literally deifying the genocidist whom my grade school was named after.

In theory, scholarship and science should be above those kinds of behaviors, but I found that it is far from the case. Usually, they were lies of omission, and the ways that FE has been suppressed is to seize patents using national security laws, quiet money and quite murder, and the FE aspirants often do the suppressors' work for them, as they keep their technologies shrouded in "proprietary technology" secrecy.

Lies, deceptions, and secrecy, and Dennis even has played that game plenty, as he maneuvered for survival and tried to motivate the herd. Dennis even justified those behaviors to me as "godly deceptions," as he tried to bait people into saving themselves, as he played to their delusions and self-interest to get "cohesion" for his efforts. Not only did I hate that stuff, I saw that it did not work. People attracted by such tactics betrayed Dennis at the first opportunity. I was over being shocked at all the dishonorable and criminal behavior engaged in by Dennis's allies before the sledgehammer came down in Ventura, which made everything that preceded it pale to insignificance.

After Ventura, I was no longer much interested in the inventor's/businessman's approach to FE, but Dennis kept trying to get me back in the saddle with him, and I finally did in 1996-1997, and nearly went to prison for my trouble. I then became certain that the inventor's/businessman's approach would not work, and my approach ever since has been the straight truth, as baldly as I can state it. Of course, it fries the circuits of most people who encounter my work, particularly my peers – white, educated, American men – as I strip away the lies about why we are history's most privileged demographic group. But the truth will set us free, and believing anything less than the truth is being less than fully sentient. I am not interested in the lies, deceptions, and secrecy approach to FE, which is partly why my forum will not allow any anonymity. The anonymous are not going to get anything of any importance done, which is partly why most Internet forums are worthless havens for trolls and meaningless chatter.

Only the integrity and sentience path to FE has any promise, as far as I can see, but I also realize that the people with the required integrity and sentience are going to be needles in haystacks, and that is OK. I am prepared to take 30 years to develop my choir (the rest of my life's "spare" time), and I am not going to settle for less than integrity and sentience. I cannot afford to. I have seen where aiming low ends up, and it won’t work, IMO.

More coming on deceptions and the like, but it is time for chores.

Best,

Wade