The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[Limor Wolf]

Cautiously tipping to this thread, again.. and asking for your forgivness in advance, because this may probably not be to the taste of all ears and all perspectives. But, can any of us remember how a few years ago we used to be a lot more aware to the third side rocking the cradle, well, today we seem to almost forget about it.. as a kind of a passe compose. We forget that underneath we all share things in common (more so than differences), despite the hurts and errors, the strong convictions, the mistakes, and the info/disinfo we try to sift through, we may remind ourselves the unhealthy conditions that we find ourselves functioning in.. Experiencers and contactees, Milabs and abductees, government insiders and decision makers anyone else who plays anything in this arena has possibly at one time or another been through some kind of a meat grinder in their life. Post traumatic stress and dysfunction are known symptoms within this 'milieu', that is a commonality that we keep forgeting and instead we at times issue a contest of who had been hurt most and how the other one is a liar and a psy ops. even psy ops need two to tango..

The desire to know what's going on when it comes to our life with the 'others', either feathery winged people, or light blue orbs, actually worth nothing, if we can not see the division created by the third party (and forth and fifth) and their use of the many technological and other controling means, and decide to withdraw our attention after we listened, make discernement and expressed them once or twice. If we wouldn't put our casino tokens on this game, why to give it our energy?

Corey has been a long time member in Avalon, and it's fair to say he was honest and worked to rehabilitate himself, any errings that comes afterwards are a misfortune, not to remove any self responsibility from his choice of conduct, and hurt of others who reached their hand to help, but it's difficult to get out of the 'projects' when a person is targeted and was possibly reprogrammed.

Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others

We stand no chance if we fail to see the greater tactics and manipulations to keep ourselves divided and pointing at one another, perheps if we stop feeding this energy we can arrive to our best result



Limor

[Omni]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others

Please show them to me. Not exactly fair to say I am inaccurate without saying how. And if you read page 15 of the blue avian thread Corey was caught in a lie,.. Also you can ask Bill himself if he caught Corey posting info from another source presenting it as his own.... so no, he has not been honest. And frankly to be compared with Corey is offensive to me Limor. To be honest it shows more about your discernment than anything about me in my view, with all due respect...

I have a screenshot from a trusted source of Corey on skype saying he is on the payroll, and "it is what it is". Corey's response is it is photoshopped... The source who sent it to me has always been courteous(even when we disagree, which is how corey started hating me and slandering me), respectful, and nobody as far as I know has caught him lying. Avalon finds him pretty credible, he used to be a mod on Avalon as well...

If you think I am very similar to Corey I know you are in error. It is a shame you cannot discern such to be honest. I am not a US government asset. If I was why would they be trying so hard to get people to misjudge me or turn off to my information? You obviously do not see what I do. The shadow government is dead set on discrediting and destroying me. Why the years of mind control aimed at character assassination? Why all the torture? Why the body mutilation? Why make me incapable of reproducing? Why attempt to stop me from knowing love? Why mind control people to attack me? Why mind control me as well as people around me in nefarious ways for them to misjudge me. Why try to make my music worse? Why mind control assets to derail my threads,...not so much on avalon but on other forums plenty of pretty solidly MK asset types derail my threads in the past - and yes i absolutely can detect signs of mind control after 8 years of overt mind control tactics done to me.

I have never seen a smidge of information from Corey that is tangible. Maybe he has some(likely ripped off from someone else), maybe not. But yes, comparing me to him is offensive to me. And shows your own inability to discern a legit truth source from a disinfo asset. I am not saying I am always right, but I am correct and aligned to truth in sensitive areas enough to merit severe targeting and suppression, as well as character assassination. If my documentaries and books take off no doubt I will be viciously character assassinated...

Sorry if I am a bit annoyed right now Limor, but honestly being told Im like corey is one of the worst things you could possibly say to me...

[Hervé]

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others

[...]
Sorry if I am a bit annoyed right now Limor, but honestly being told Im like corey is one of the worst things you could possibly say to me...

Wooops... emotions kicking in...

Omni, Limor's "in common" doesn't mean "like" or similar but -- if I got it straight -- suffering from what the rest of the planet is struggling with and that is: Programming

That doesn't mean the same program either, just that all of us are entangled to those, one way or another, one form or another... only a few like yourself and Limor are aware that any response/reaction has to be scanned for any program behind it.

[Omni]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others

[...]
Sorry if I am a bit annoyed right now Limor, but honestly being told Im like corey is one of the worst things you could possibly say to me...

Wooops... emotions kicking in...

Omni, Limor's "in common" doesn't mean "like" or similar but -- if I got it straight -- suffering from what the rest of the planet is struggling with and that is: Programming

That doesn't mean the same program either, just that all of us are entangled to those, one way or another, one form or another... only a few like yourself and Limor are aware that any response/reaction has to be scanned for any program behind it.

Thank you for the clarification Herve. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I just find it offensive to assert I am anywhere near corey in practically any way. If you had Extraterrestrial grade intelligence(all seeing eye profiles) you would know how different we are.

I aspire to the highest levels of integrity I have witnessed in any human being(tied). I have worked hard on myself, such as eliminating embellishing, exaggerating, and lying to almost all degrees. I pretty much only lie when this world is too undeveloped to treat me correctly(for example police - "no officer i have no cannabis in the car"), it is a vote of incompetence to the sources I lie to,... i have almost completely eliminated embellishing/exaggeration/lying, if it wasn't for bull**** injustices in this world, i would not tell a lie for the rest of my life. I would NEVER tell a deliberate lie about another person, as corey has done to me. To hear someone so well respected(even by me) such as Limor say Corey was "honest" rubs me the wrong way after I conclusively saw him lie about me, and deceptively present his information.

Corey went around on multiple websites slandering me calling me an AI prophet on his blog, turning many people against me including Avalonians who were bamboozled by his lies. He lied plenty of times in his statements about me, embellished/exaggerated other things he could never back up when asked. For example saying i get my info from channeling. Or that I have been caught lying by him several times(never happened).

I value the truth to a high degree. Corey does not. He will make up anything about anyone who opposes him, ask bsbray, ask theruiner, ask me, ask Bill Ryan,.. Even Christine supposedly had corey turn on her if what i heard was right. He is NOT innocent, honest, or trustworthy. Nor does he have virtuous character. Nor is he 'empathetic' in any sign many have seen. He is almost an exact opposite of myself. Not many avalonians know my character, but those who do know me know I have great character, great integrity, trustworthy, honorable, and am dedicated/altruistic to helping planet Earth expecting nothing but character assassination in return. Corey has nothing to do with those qualities in my experiences and observations. And how bad he has treated me makes me feel injustice and untruth when someone says he was honest, and is similar to me.

Maybe I should have taken the hint when Limor said she is similar too, I doubt she would be saying she herself is a disinfo asset. I took it as Limor saying i am a disinfo source like corey is. Been up all night, im out of town and a leather couch is what i had to sleep on, couldnt sleep, made more than one mental mistake in that time period.... Sorry Limor(and any reader who sensed negative energy in me after perceiving a well respected member misconstrue the truth related to myself)...

[Hervé]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
[...]

... I just find it offensive to assert I am anywhere near corey in practically any way. [...]

I do understand, completely, and I too would feel offended of such an assertion if it were made about me. However, I would also take into consideration the followings:

"How come has that managed to work my mind into such a state I can make mistakes so easily?"

But, that's me

Wish you to get some rest until you are able to utter something like "What was that all about anyway?!"

Cheers!

[Limor Wolf]

Yes, Herve is 100% correct. Omniverse, I am truly sorry, I think you know how deeply I appreciate you.. and how much you are appreciated here. Your wealth of knowledge and original thinking is beyond what can be heard from anyone else! no one should be an expert on such things.. no one. You have a lot going for you, soul wise, and that is why you are such a focal point of interest.. I happened to know that Corey himself had a very rough life experiences, something that you will well know about yourself.. The unspeakable methods of putting hands on young children to later be adults is a blatant violation of all laws of the universe, you know what I am talking about. Perheps with that you can better understand what I mean by using the word 'common', from here the details are less important.., everyone has their own challenges.

There must be a great sensitivity to be compared to anyone who in our minds we don't synchronise with their current behaviour and choices, but everyone have their own stories, and we do share some challenges, interests and mutual goals.. eventually. There is a good chance that my discernement is incomplete, that's a possibility. I tick all the statements and question marks that you arised with regards to yourself, no one but one who walks in your shoes can understand where you come from..

I don't know if it's worth to point on the incorrectness, but knowing how you value truth to a high degree.. I believe there was a slight misunderstanding at the time and Corey did mention in his intial post that his text and advices with regards to clearing entities (I think that was it..), was something he read about and taken to, perheps even added the link.

You know what they say - 'When two are in a battle the third party wins'..

Much Love

Limor

[Hervé]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
[...]
I believe there was a slight misunderstanding at the time and Corey did mention in his intial post that his text and advices with regards to clearing entities (I think that was it..), was something he read about and taken to, perheps even added the link.
[...]

Here is the post in question and about which we received a complaint; hence my "Mod-edit" at the beginning of the post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post910704

[Mod edit: We have been contacted by Peter Michael, the owner of the site entityattachment.com, with a request to add the proper attribution to this post.

Although this hereby post's author (Corey Goode) indicates he found it on the web, he failed to give due credit to the original author. Hervé]

[PathWalker]

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others

I am not a US government asset. If I was why would they be trying so hard to get people to misjudge me or turn off to my information? You obviously do not see what I do. The shadow government is dead set on discrediting and destroying me. Why the years of mind control aimed at character assassination? Why all the torture? Why the body mutilation? Why make me incapable of reproducing? Why attempt to stop me from knowing love? Why mind control people to attack me? Why mind control me as well as people around me in nefarious ways for them to misjudge me. Why try to make my music worse? Why mind control assets to derail my threads,...not so much on avalon but on other forums plenty of pretty solidly MK asset types derail my threads in the past - and yes i absolutely can detect signs of mind control after 8 years of overt mind control tactics done to me.

Greetings and blessing to Omniverse,

Your pain and anger is apparent.
I believe and hope (Limor can confirm), that her post is about compassion to the suffering. And balancing the anger/hate in this thread.

Yes no one is pure, and we share human faults and blessing. These faults are what make us feeble vulnerable humans. But these faults are our might and potential for grandeur. Almost if not all human innovations come from militaristic motives. It is not possible to express galore and/or bravery with no distress (can you see the duality here?).

Each every one of us, can identify faults in others. These finger pointing at each other is another divide and conquer tactic to control the alternative media. The PTW inflict us with pain and suffering, then use this suffering to divide us more and lash us against each other. See the middle east, Africa, India.

I have great respect to Omniverse as a person and a prime PA contributor. I wish to encourage Omniverse and support his goal. YOU are not a victim. WE are not victims. Unless we take this role in the drama. I learned this from Buddhist teaching.

Looking forward to more Omniverse contributions.
BTW I was also attacked by Corey and was kindly advised by the moderator to leave that thread. Which I did.

[Hervé]

To anyone having had troubles with Corey, please, let this sink in:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[...]
Why this is crucial to understand is that if anything that Corey has posted or written, anywhere at all, about anyone or anything (including myself and the Avalon forum!) wasn't in alignment with the agendas of the US military intelligence apparatus (who know him well) — they would lean on him in an instant. Even maybe with a friendly phone call to his house.

In simple terms: everything he is posting is de facto sanctioned.

This is an important post. Now, please read it again.

[regnak]

Well I quite like Corey truthfully some of the information is beyond me like Blue Avians, Sphere being Alliance some of his information is good I interested in star gates and secret space program

is it good to throw the baby out with the bath water

[araucaria]

Posted by jonsnow (here)
Well I quite like Corey truthfully some of the information is beyond me like Blue Avians, Sphere being Alliance some of his information is good I interested in star gates and secret space program

is it good to throw the baby out with the bath water

Wrong metaphor (there is no baby), and wrong household appliance. Did you (re)read Bill's post? Maybe one more time: 'everything...' can be flushed down the toilet.

[regnak]

Araucaria I do not wish to argue with you about it I believe Bill is wrong to rule out everything Corey says but who am I to give instructions to the great Bill RYAN
Indeed Bill Ryan is one of the greats opened by eyes a little some of the Project the Camelot videos were truly great ( a fan of Bod Deane )

[Hervé]

Let's see if any of this can be applied to the believers of Corey's entranced "sightings":

When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group That Predicted the Destruction of the World

which led to the study of

Cognitive dissonance

and its side effects...

... when replacing "destruction" with "salvation"...

[grannyfranny100]

So much is available to work on to create the world we want. So many issues to address. Why would you spend time following Corey's posts? If you believe in Corey, let him get on with his work. That frees up your time to make powerful contributions to the everyday problems on earth.

[araucaria]

Blue avians are turning up in odd places these days. From the Wimbledon newsletter:

Defending champion Novak Djokovic believes the blue tit that invaded his opening round Centre Court match was a good luck charm:
“From where I come from, from capital of Serbia, Belgrade, there's a special sparrow bird called jivjum. I believe this bird came all the way from Belgrade to help me.”
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/...F,S06V2,2UD3,1

If Djokovic wins Wimbledon again this year, he will owe nothing to jivjums and everything to being the in-form player of the moment. This in turn may be something to do with his attitude developed in places like the local Buddhist temple.

“I try to put myself only in the present moment, not fight against the thoughts and the pressure and the excitement, but just acknowledge them and be aware of present thoughts but also try to keep my composure and calm,” the defending champion said. “I try to just be in the moment and enjoy.”

Djokovic is often regarded as one of the sport’s strongest players when it comes to mental toughness. It is a technique he has refined through meditation and, when he is at Wimbledon, he uses a nearby Buddhist temple as his refuge.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/t...-10366257.html

If ‘present thoughts’ turned momentarily to support from a friendly blue tit, they are surely somewhere very different now. Similarly a bird flitting about epitomizes the changing present moment, which means that when it does the opposite, it only epitomizes an old vinyl record stuck in the same groove.


How ‘very British’ they said. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-n...steals-5969318

[Carmody]

What it really comes down to is that people don't understand that the voice in their head is a creation of the emotional centers of the hindbrain reactive bodily drive system, and is not the intellect itself.

It is an emotionally derived reactive reflection. Nothing more.

It is a largely autonomous body, a projected reflection... it's not a 'you' or an 'I'.

Until one deals with that head on, directly, and overcomes that influence, the circular logic and animal imposed limitation will remain as the projection of human life.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Edit: Applying the above to MILAB considerations, consider that people can be programmed or hypnotized. That should ring some alarm bells at 1000%.

If the above were not true... then MILAB would simply.... not work. As people move into clarity, and begin to overcome -or move past- the autonomous ego function... MILAB begins to break down.

Make the logic connection. The idea of consciousness in this place is a historical projection/reflection of the coloration of the body/window.

One could say that... you may have more modes of expression and appear slightly more controlled than a one year old child. But that child, that form, that filter, is still in the drivers seat. Oh yes, 100% so.

For example, an isolated child, who heard no sounds, would not develop a voice in the head. They would mistake human voice for horrible convoluted natural noises. Voice is a creation of the reflection of complex data, as interpreted by the body. It comes from being around other people who also 'speak'.

At the age of approximately 5 years, when the human mind/brain grey stuff, is developed enough, the inner voice begins shaping itself (in most people). It is a high level meta program of the body ego drive and autonomous drive systems.... and as a creation of theirs, in neural passage and creation and flow, it has final say in all acts and all aspects of interpretation and coloration. As it is of them, it is theirs... it is one and the same. Just a high level meta program at the end of a stick, a stick which is of the trunk and roots.

Again, until humans grow, individually and collectively - past this point... this circular situation and limit ---will continue.

This stands alone, as the singular nut you have to crack, in order to move this planet along.

Everything else is just window dressing and/or avoidance tactics. Literally.

[araucaria]

Posted by jonsnow (here)
Araucaria I do not wish to argue with you about it I believe Bill is wrong to rule out everything Corey says but who am I to give instructions to the great Bill RYAN
Indeed Bill Ryan is one of the greats opened by eyes a little some of the Project the Camelot videos were truly great ( a fan of Bod Deane )

The difference between an argument and a discussion is that we bring concrete elements to the table that can be examined. One element is that ‘the great Bill Ryan’ can and does occasionally get things wrong. Another would be to see exactly how he might be wrong in this particular instance. I don’t see you doing much of that. Let me elaborate on what makes me think he is right here.

Things that happen to us in the outside world are there to help us assimilate the inner workings that we are not ‘getting’. Carmody has just described the inner handler we all have. If we don’t get that, then it will be externalized. Bill is saying that Corey has an external handler (FBI or whatever) who contaminates literally everything that he thinks or says. This includes disagreeing with Bill. Here is the perverse bit: the principle of possibly disagreeing with Bill is sound, if it means that you are beginning to think for yourself, for otherwise you would just be turning him into an unwitting handler of yours; but this advantage is lost and reversed if in so acting you are merely doing the bidding, or toeing the line, of the FBI.

On the other hand, it is possible to agree mostly with Bill while thinking for yourself, i.e. subject to personal examination and discernment; this is how a forum like Avalon brings together people ‘of like mind’. The same process is required however for disagreement as well. In other words, if you consider there is a baby in this bathwater, you would need to back up that claim by producing the baby. So far no one has done that or is likely to do so, and not for want of trying. Why? Because, as Bill emphasizes, everything from Corey is filtered and sanctioned by a handler. In other words, it is a waste of time thinking for oneself about material offered by someone who is not thinking for himself. Much better to build your thinking on solid ground.

[kirolak]

I am unfortunately biased against anyone who is a native speaker, but whose grammar and descriptive abilities are so poor. I know that it is neither fair nor logical, but I experience a sense of recoil against this sort of writing; regardless of the subject matter.

[bruno dante]

Posted by kirolak (here)
I am unfortunately biased against anyone who is a native speaker, but whose grammar and escriptive abilities are so poor. I know that it is neither fair nor logical, but I experience a sense of recoil against this sort of writing.

I don't think this is unreasonable. I feel basically the same.

My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell! And this was before all the hoopla. I don't mean to sound cruel, but the juxtaposition between appearance and ability suggested smoke and mirrors all the way. I just could never take him seriously.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Then again, dyslexia is a real thing too.

I'm just saying there are better reasons to discard his material than that.