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    Hi:

    Quickly, before I head off to work, I have written that I review traffic to my site, to see if there are potential singers out there, and I just saw somebody try to discuss my fluoride essay, to immediately receive a troll-ish response that called my essay a bunch of unsubstantiated "hearsay." Those kinds of responses to my work abound in cyberspace. At a moon hoax forum, my relating of Brian's near-fatal encounters with the military over the UFO issue was similarly dismissed as "hearsay" by another lawyer wannabee. Those kinds of irrational dismissals by people posing as scientists and other learned people are why I no longer participate in all-comers forums populated with anonymous cowards and trolls.

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    Wade ,
    As we move along here you seem to be answering half of my questions before I can even ask them .

    Found the pressure intensifier drawing again.That was used with water or glycol ? It looks similar to what is used in refrigerant connections of air conditioning units I was installing in the midwest.

    Those heat pumps were being shipped out with 60 pounds of refrigerant? Even with the Quick Couplers ,I would assume might be used in connection ,I'm surprised people weren't blowing their heads off. That's some dangerous pressures for back yard mechanics to tinker with.
    If you are familiar with the "quick connections" was Dennis behind that? I didn't know about them until about 1986 helping my dad install manufactured homes in summers off school.
    Those quick connections made it so a sixteen year old kid could install an air conditioner in about an hour with out having to charge the unit .It came pre-charged with 3 to 4 # of refrigerant .
    It became so easy due to this plug & play tech for manufactured housing we could deliver your home to the site and your A/C and all utilities would be on and livable that night with just two men.

    Lots more to talk about Wade ,just a few thoughts and questions.Thanks

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    Wade,
    Dennis did not have ZPE technology right? His best/last product when you were still with him in Ventura was Lamco heat pumps that drove Victor Fisher hydraulic heat engine, which in turn can produce electricity.

    On googling for Victor Fisher I got the following 1 2 any thoughts on them?

    Krist please weigh in if you can

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    Thanks for the invite freeknowlege.
    In that article #1 we can see where the pressure intensifier came into play.
    Maintaining the pressure to keep the water from vaporizing into steam to quickly? Or something on that level....This is all pretty new to me ,thermodynamics at this level ,catch'n up.
    I went to bed last night in a brain storm over the idea that the pressure intensifier came to mind at a stop light.As those thoughts swirled I could hear Wade saying" get grounded kid" before it's your head that explodes.

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    Hi:

    Thanks for the technical posts. I could range far and wide while replying, but I'll try to keep it relatively short. For Mr. Mentor's pressure intensifier, any working fluid could be used. It depended on the temperatures used. When it was being considered for running cars, I heard about DOWTHERM (it is named in the patent), probably what you mean when you wrote "glycol," but when Mr. Mentor planned to marry it to Dennis's heat pump, a refrigerant like Freon was planned. This can segue to some informative and even amusing anecdotes, and I'll tell one.

    When Mr. Mentor first patented his engine, he had to put in some numbers on the pressures attained, and used 150 PSI for the boiler pressure. When that rocket scientist was assigned to study Mr. Mentor's engine, and soon became its biggest fan, he told Mr. Mentor that 150 PSI was about the thermodynamically worst pressure to use. Mr. Mentor replied that he just threw in a number because he was required to, and that the intensifier could produce any pressure desired. The boiler temperature (probably over a thousand degrees Fahrenheit, as it is burning gasoline (or really, anything that burns)) would determine the boiler PSI, along with the working fluid used, and the intensifier could make any far end pressure desired, and the patents said about 2,000-3,000 PSI.

    Krist, you know more about hands-on HVAC stuff than I do. When I chased Dennis out to Boston, I did not even know how the heat pump worked, but I learned fast. I saw plenty of units in the field, even hauled some to customers behind my car (that Pinto saw a lot of use those days, also hauling the demos to our Greatest Energy Shows), and I learned plenty through being around scientists, engineers, inventors, techs, and Dennis. But it was not until the dust settled in Ventura and I moved away to Ohio that I began studying thermodynamics so that I could understand the theories behind heat engines and heat pumps.

    A little preamble before I get to more technical issues. When Dennis was in the business (1979 to 1988), his heat pump installers generally had to be Class B refrigeration mechanics to start with. They then had to go to a one-week class on installing the LamCo heat pump. Most HVAC heat pump applications are for air conditioning to get rid of heat. The LamCo heat pump did the opposite, as it gathered heat. That turned many presumptions about air conditioning applications upside down, so part of that week's class was to disabuse the techs of their air conditioning training. Also, that huge evaporator introduced parameters never seen before, and the pressures attained were about twice what air-to-air heat pumps produced. After a refrigeration mechanic graduated from class, he/she usually needed to do about three installations before he/she (almost never a woman, and I doubt that I ever met a woman tech) got the hang of it. That engineer who became an extortionist could not get his 12,000 BTUs-per-hour mantra out of his head, and had to be reminded of it on the witness stand. The LamCo device heat pump delivered twice the BTUs per horsepower as typical heat pumps did.

    So, with that kind of qualification and learning curve, it was one of the reasons why Dennis came up with his Heat Injector idea. I am not sure about your pressure question, and will describe the installation, and that may answer your question. The evaporators were fabricated in the field, from panels and tubing, braised together. That is how you can see so many different kinds of panel arrays, as the tech could kind of make it up as he/she went. Once the entire thing was fabricated, the tech had to draw a hard vacuum for 24 hours before charging the system with that 60 pounds of refrigerant. You seem to have thought that they shipped with refrigerant in them. They didn't, although the Heat Injector would have, but the array was already built and the system charged, which would have done away with the refrigeration techs for installation. All you had to do with one of those was hook up the water lines (in the hydronic app, which was the ideal). That factory pre-fab situation would have greatly increased the quality, and then Dennis could have carpeted the USA with them. As the LamCo systems were not shipped charged, they did not present a danger to those backyard installers.

    It has been nearly 30 years since I was involved, but as I recall, those quick connectors that you cited were new back then and were notorious for leaking. They never went to that when Dennis was in the business, as far as I know. Dennis was interested in a prefabricated and charged panel array that could be hooked up with something like a quick connector, but it would have been permanent and not have leaked like those quick connectors did (I heard "self-penetrating," if that means anything).

    That pre-charged, quick-connector AC style that you were familiar with was along the lines of Dennis's Heat Injector concept. While techs in the field are important, you can probably see that having techs install a USA carpeted with the LamCo heat pump was not going to be easy, which led Dennis to his Heat Injector idea. They were playing with the idea in Seattle before the company was wiped out (I seem to recall seeing a prototype of it).

    Thanks for asking these questions. I am thinking about those days on the technical end like I have not done for a while.

    Freeknowledge, when I was with Dennis in the 1980s, yes, he was not pursuing ZPE, but he eventually did, and had a prototype similar to Trombly's Homopolar Generator, Tewari's copy (Tewari used Trombly's design, after Adam had his device seized by the Feds), and others that have rotating magnets (the tapping the ZPF effect begins at about 2,000 RPM, in properly constructed devices, but that is a long way from having something ready to power a home). If you have a million dollars, you can build one, too. But, as I have written, probably the greatest threat that we posed in Ventura was not Dennis's heat pump, Mr. Mentor's engine, or Victor Fischer's, but that we were leading a movement, and people such as Sparky Sweet lived just down the road. If somebody like Sparky brought his technology to Dennis, it could have easily been Game Over for Godzilla, which is why Dennis got the billion dollar offer before they lowered the boom. Sparky was highly aware of how they took us down in Ventura, as he watched in horror. His turn came later. What we had going in Ventura was one of the scariest things that Godzilla has yet had to face. I am sure that taking us out was a case history in organized suppression that Godzilla's newbies have to study.

    On Fischer's engine, it was similar to Mr. Mentor's in that it was a hydraulic heat engine. They worked on slightly different principles, and I like Mr. Mentor's design better, but the first prototypes of the Fischer engine came closer to the Carnot ideal than any other heat engine ever had, and Dennis built a prototype before we were wiped out in Ventura, and it indeed produced atmospheric pressure exhaust steam, which is unheard of for a steam engine.

    Super heat pumps and hydraulic heat engines are big stuff, worthy of Godzilla's full attention by themselves, but it all pales compared to what Sparky and those like him had, and years later, we came to understand that Godzilla has developed stuff like Sparky's to the 35th generation or so. When my pal got his little show, his eyes were bugging out. ZPE, antigravity (or electrogravity), and the like are here today. You can take that to the bank, and those technologies are likely older than I am, but I am sure that today's versions are vastly more sophisticated than what was developed in the 1940s and 1950s, probably with a little help from reverse-engineering captured ET craft. Godzilla has been very busy keeping the lid on that stuff, using his carrots and sticks.

    Great questions, people. Keep it up.

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    Wade
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    Hi:

    A couple of issues. As a tracking device, I note when another 100K page views have been reached, and today, with a little help from the Google-bot ( ), this page will pass 800,000 page views.

    The second is what I alluded to yesterday. Those alleged scientists that dismiss organized suppression and other Godzilla antics suffer from what I call "naïve positivism." I almost want to update my "critics" essay for their irrationalities, and maybe one day I will, but for now, I am just going to point out their poor logic, as they try to present themselves as the voice of reason, which is a rampant problem with "skeptics," even when they are being honest, and they rarely are, in my experience.

    In one forum, a critic dismissed my reporting of Brian's near-fatal encounter with the military as "hearsay." Brian was terrified of retribution from the military if he publicly mentioned his encounter with them, all the way until he died, and I tried to get posthumous permission from his family to be more forthcoming about Brian's encounter, but did not get it. The Big Boys play hardball, and a great way to stay naïve and in denial is to dismiss all evidence that does not come through a court of law. Of course, it is highly naïve to even think that Brian would have gotten anywhere by approaching law enforcement (they are gangsters, too), but if people engage in highly naïve circular logic, they can dismiss Brian's testimony and pretend that the cloak-and-dagger world does not even exist. Become an astronaut and put on a UFO conference, and you will discover differently, or try to bring disruptive energy technology to market. In that chorus of dismissal when that critic dismissed Brian's tale as "hearsay," another writer said that Brian should have contacted the police, and another one said that Brian made up the story to draw attention to himself (Brian never disclosed it publicly while alive, so that argument does not survive minimal scrutiny). Those kinds of replies epitomize the naiveté and irrationality of that crowd.

    Similarly, when I saw yesterday that a critic dismissed my fluoridation essay as "hearsay," he literally tried to defend the wrecking of Mullenix's career by stating that when she lost her position, those who sacked her did not state why they sacked her. That is the kind of naïveté that you might find in grammar school, but it abounds with the "skeptics." Nobody gets fired in corporate America. They always leave "to pursue other opportunities." It is idiotic to assume that if Mullenix was sacked because her findings put a dent in pro-fluoridation propaganda, that those sacking her would publicly admit it. But those are the kinds of critiques that come from Establishment defenders like the "skeptics," and those defending the energy and medical rackets are the worst of all.

    Also, those critics seem oblivious of the irony of anonymously criticizing Brian or me because there is not publicly available documentation to satisfy them, in areas where anybody who made it past grammar school would not expect any to exist. They are like Americans who buy the Warren Commission's findings hook, line, and sinker. Such anonymous cowards do not only have a courage and integrity deficit, but a rational one, too, even as they try to present themselves of the voice of reason.

    Time for chores.

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    You are right about those piercing valves Wade.That was one of the first things we learned about that quick connect in the field.they were quick & easy .My dad & uncle figured out how to solve that habitual leaking issue through trial and error.There was a rubber o-ring in the connector,if the installer didn't lube the o-ring before installation it could be torn slightly in the mechanical connection which caused a very small leak.Nearly undetectable leaks are "diminimus " or very small and acceptable leakage happening in connection process.No mater how tight you could make that connection if the o-ring was torn it would leak,and that could take a month or more before enough freon leaked out of the system causing it to lose its ability to exchange the heat absorbed by the coil .The neat part of the system was with that connection even the suction and liquid line could hold a charge until installation and if your mechanical skills were good enough you would loose very little pressure and the system could be operational in very short order.
    That hard vacuum would remove all contaminates in said system oils ,oxygen other various materials that would cause damage or hinder function inside the compressor and small pin size openings regulating pressure.
    Really I only have a rudimentary understanding of all processes .As my uncle said "enough to make you dangerous" as we are working with high voltage and high pressures.I took the epa test to certify handling and purchase of freon.Barely passed for the type two cert cause I have no formal training and no studies to reference other than field training but knew enough of the lingo and practical information to fake till ya make i guess.Multiple choice.
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    Thanks Ilie:

    As I have written, the first life on Earth was chemosynthetic, and there is some of that happening today (less than 0.001% of life on Earth today lives that way), but even they are dependent on the Sun's energy. Yes, with FE, humanity could break away from having to make it on the Sun's budget, raiding ancient sunlight (hydrocarbons), raiding the energy of collapsing stars (via nuclear fission), and "roll their own." No, nothing lives off of heat (if you get into molecular biology and understand the reactions at the cellular level, you realize that life has no way to capture heat to power biology, like heat engines do), although the hot environments that some extremophiles live in reduces the activation energy needed for chemical reactions, so it likely helps.
    Well, it's one month later since this reply, and I am not any closer to understanding it...

    I am looking at the Ectotherm page on Wikipedia. And reptiles are used as an example:

    "Ectotherms rely largely on external heat sources such as sunlight to achieve their optimal body temperature for various bodily activities. Accordingly they depend on ambient conditions to reach operational body temperatures."

    I understand that reptiles do not eat "heat from some external source" per se, but still, I would not say: "life has no way to capture heat to power biology" as it seems obvious that reptiles do exactly that. As I understand it, no matter how much food a reptile has, without absorbing heat from an external source, it will die. And, similarly, no matter how much heat it will absorb, without food it will also die... So for me is not exactly clear where does the reptile get its energy in order to survive? Food vs external heat source, is not that clear cut. Both seem to be required in order to power the various biological processes in the body of a reptile.

    "Activation energy" seems to be the key concept here. So you have a bunch of chemicals (as in "food") but in order to "digest them" or make them do something useful, you (as an organism) need to force them to react, right? And order to do so, you need to reach that activation energy for the reaction you want. That activation energy, in the case of ectotherms, seems to come from heat absorbed from an external source. So, one could say, that the reptiles actually consume heat from their environment to power their bodies and to digest their food. Without acquiring that heat, nothing would happen. Their internal processes would grind to a halt. Yes, the chemicals would be there, but the activation energy would not...

    Also, the comparison with steam engines is not clear. Steam engines absorb heat (say from burning coal), and that builds pressure and that pressure will "do some work". Would not that pressure build be the equivalent of getting enough "activation energy" for something useful to happen with that motor? Don't ectotherms do something similar in using heat to build enough internal pressure to reach the activation energy required for their internal reactions to take place?

    So where is my confusion? What have I mixed up or misunderstood? With my current understanding there are many lifeforms that capture heat to power their biological processes. Lets take plants, even if they don't really absorb heat, still they don't have to worry about "losing heat" because there is enough of it in the environment. So the plant still uses the heat around it, but not in an obvious way. It just makes it so much easier for the plant to reach activation energy in the presence of an external heat source. Take an indoor plant, and put out in the winter. It will freeze and die... Why?... not enough heat around it to make its internal reactions possible?

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    Hi Ilie:

    That is a great, provocative post. I can get with reptiles, for instance, being warmed up by sunlight enough to lower the activation energy so that their biology can function. I am happy to have to clarify my thinking, and maybe I can learn something new here, but as I see it, the chemical reactions of life make life happen. A reptile sitting in the Sun is getting into an environment so that its activation energy is lowered for those chemical reactions to work, but the chemical reactions are life's most important trick.

    What I meant is that heat by itself is not converted into chemical energy. A heat engine does convert heat to work, but no biological process converts heat to mechanical or chemical energy. I suppose that you could say that life takes advantage of heat energy to lower the activation energy to power its chemical reactions, so, in an indirect way, we could say that some of that heat energy is stored, but that is arguable.

    Part of why I have written it the way I have is that for a time, it was thought that the heat of those volcanic vents may be an essential aspect of those extremophiles, but scientists also found cold vents with the same organisms, so the thinking today is that it was the chemical potential of those chemicals newly vented into the oceans that life was using, not the heat.

    So, in organisms, the mechanical energy (muscles contracting) comes from chemical energy, not heat, but in a heat engine, the mechanical energy comes from heat energy (which often comes from chemical energy, but not always, such as with nuclear energy). Does that distinction make sense? Life has no known mechanisms to convert heat energy into work, or to store that heat energy in chemical bonds, which would be the essential storage, although basking is storing heat for a brief time. However, "storing" may be a little too strong of a word, IMO, compared to chemical storage. Energy "stored" in a reptile by absorbed heat is "stored" for a few hours, but as we see with fossil fuels, energy can be stored in chemical bonds for hundreds of millions of years. Compared to storage in chemical bonds, that sunlight energy absorbed into the reptile is not stored at all, but slowed down. Instead of reflecting into space as visible light, it is absorbed and reradiated via the lower-energy infrared spectrum.

    Early life relied on the chemical energy of inorganic compounds newly introduced to the oceans that had not yet reacted and lowered their potential energy. When some learned photosynthesis, they learned to capture photon energy, which was stored in chemical (AKA electron) bonds. The chemical energy is essential to life, but I'll agree that the Sun's energy also raises Earth's temperature so that life can exist at all. In the end, all life on Earth is dependent on solar energy. Solar energy keeps the oceans and atmosphere in chemical disequilibrium with the crust, and raises Earth's surface temperature enough so that the chemical reactions essential for life as we know it can happen.

    This really is a great topic to discuss, and I encourage further discussion.

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    Wade
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    Thanks, Wade.

    I still need to think about this some more.

    I can empirically observe that life processes seem to grind to a halt in the absence of environmental heat. So I cannot accept that heat is not all that important.

    But from your previous post, I think I know now where my confusion is.

    You seem to be saying that the heat around an organism acts in way that is more similar to how a chemical catalyst works: it helps with the reaction, but it is not used in the chemical reaction. In the same way, environmental heat helps with the chemical reactions but it is not really absorbed. For example life does not cool its environment by absorbing (eating up) the available thermal energy. Is this closer to what you are saying?

    The chemical reaction that results in water is this one:

    O2 + 2H2 => 2H2O

    However there is something missing from the above formula, and it's this "activation energy" thing required to start that reaction.

    Is this "activation energy" absorbed and somehow stored into the water molecule or not? If it is, then in a similar fashion organisms absorb heat when they create their chemical bonds. If it is not, then I wonder why is it called "activation energy"? Why use the word "energy"? I think "activation probability" may be a better term.

    So would the complete formula be:

    O2 + 2H2 + (activation energy) => 2H2O

    or...

    O2 + 2H2 + (activation energy) => 2H2O + (activation energy)

    On the Wikipedia page for activation energy, it says that a catalyst lowers the activation energy for a reaction. How can you lower the energy of something without absorbing the difference? That's why I think "activation probability" may be a better term. Or maybe you could say that the catalyst (such as an enzyme) has potential energy in it, due to it's shape. And adding that into a reaction (adding that potential energy) lowers the activation energy. You no longer need to shake the room as more or as fast in order to get the key into the lock. The catalyst will increase that probability sometimes a million fold. And yet... the catalyst it's not consumed or diminished in any way... That's so strange and miraculous. You put energy into building that enzyme (catalyst) and then you can forever use it to lower the activation energy (unless some very reactive chemicals destroy the molecule, but barring that... you have some "Free Energy" right there! that continually lowers the activation energy)
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    Hi:

    As an addendum to my previous post, another way to look at it is like this.

    Chemosynthetic life took advantage of the potential energy in electron bonds, milking it to use the resultant energy to power its biology. That energy was always used for two purposes, to build its biological structures or create mechanical energy (making those structures move). That is called using the energy budget.

    When photosynthetic life appeared, it captured photon energy to boost those electrons into higher orbits, and thereby create that chemical potential energy, which it then used just like that chemosynthetic life: to build biological structures or move them.

    When prokaryotic life formed symbiotic relationships so that complex cells could form, it was only taking that energy game to a higher level. Pound for pound, complex life burns energy 100,000 times as fast as the Sun produces it.

    Even prokaryotes used movement to place themselves in energetically ideal locations, so that they could exist, such as staying near the energy source, but not too near. Complex life was able to take the game to new levels.

    In the oceans, where complex life likely first evolved, plants were immobile, and so were the first animals (sponges). But movement was a key activity that took the game of life to new levels. During the Cambrian period, 80% of all animals were immobile, and today, 80% are mobile. Mobility obviously requires more energy than being immobile. Plants have different energy strategies, but still face the same energy budget decisions of investment or consumption. In a young forest, the plants use most of their energy to grow, and in mature forests, almost all of the energy is used to run biological structures.

    Animals used movement (mechanical energy) to acquire food and avoid becoming food. In the oceans, moving near heat energy was not a big requirement, as there is little variation in ocean temperature, but on land, with its seasons and night and day, and air temperature being far more variable than water, early land vertebrates (tetrapods and amphibians) learned to bask, which was a thermoregulatory practice, to attain the body temperature so that key biological reactions could happen. If they could raise their temperature, more energetic reactions were possible, and hence faster motion and faster growth.

    When reptiles learned the trick of laying eggs on land, they were able to colonize dryer lands, much as how seed-bearing plants learned the same trick. Early reptiles also developed more sophisticated thermoregulatory practices, and the sail appeared, which likely also played a display function.

    During the ice age that reptiles appeared in, they began to develop internal temperature regulation. Just when they learned it is still controversial, but the reptile line that became mammals did it (they lived in colder climates than the line that became dinosaurs), and dinosaurs also did it to some degree, although it was less of an issue with their size and the greenhouse Earth that they thrived in. But dinosaurs developed feathers for insulation, which also became used for display, and some used it to fly. Flying is the most energetically demanding activity on Earth, so rather extreme adaptations were required. Those adaptations are likely why birds and flying mammals live so long.

    This energy game was eventually taken to unprecedented levels by humans, as they used tools and intelligence in new ways.

    Life's energy basics are these:

    That is the energetic journey of life on Earth in a nutshell, and humans created several energetic epochs of their journey, and are on the brink of their greatest one today, if enough of us can muster the integrity and sentience. Nothing else happening on the planet today is important at all, next to that. We will either get over the hump or slide back all the way to the bottom of the hill.

    Time for bed.

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    Hi Ilie:

    I just saw your latest post as I was about to turn off the computer and hit the hay, but briefly, what a catalyst really does is "aim" the reactants so that they can come into contact in optimal fashion, so that they react and release some energy. A biological catalyst is an enzyme. The best way to think about an enzyme is that it is a piece of "machinery," if you will, that brings molecules into alignment to react and release some energy. Temperature is just the motion of molecules, and the faster they move (the higher the temperature), the higher the probability that they will randomly come into alignment and react. Enzymes remove the randomness and increase the "probability" of reaction by millions of times.

    Yes, so that so-called environmental heat energy is simply used to increase the probability of reaction, but the energy of reaction is in the electron bonds, not in the ambient heat. Humans learned to take that heat and make mechanical energy from it, which was something new. Until then (we if discount human harnessing of water and wind energy), mechanical energy was only derived from chemical biological energy (via muscles). That environmental energy is obviously important, and taking advantage of it, rather than getting heat the hard way (through thermoregulation) is something that animals learned early on (basking, for instance), and humans do it, too.

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    Hi Wade, thanks for your replies. I'll ruminate on them for a while .

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    Thank You Wade and Hi and Love to All !

    Was a 'special happening' meeting You at the Ranch : )

    Been busy in the best of ways...wanted to do this sooner but have been away from computer for a while...
    so it's right on time!

    You are doing Wonders : )

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    Hi Wade,

    I just enjoyed your exchange with Eli on the energy issue. I was fascinated!

    Looking at the science where raw data is not censored one can look upon some powerful truths...in biology and in genetics and so few read any science I would hardly suppose discussing such issues could be dangerous...

    Biology and genetics and politics? Did you not say that DNA is a transfer of information to the next generation?
    And the probability of a reaction increased a million fold due to enzymes? And how did that happen or perhaps why?

    and to the here and now I believe the system to be some type of life form or controlled by such or some life form many say that that form of life could be us but who knows anything for sure...

    Life finds energy and consumes such for enough time to reproduce...sounds to me like life as a hamster or maybe even a worker somewhere...

    And lets look at conspiracy theory for a moment. I believe leaving most of them and probably almost all of them is a good idea to survive however, at my time with USPS one did not survive in that environment if one did not look for conspiracy and react to it and join a faction for some limited protection.

    Did you ever think about what the term Goin Postal means? I mean I experienced a mass murdering psychopath shoot people at the post office I worked at and so what?

    The postal service operates along with its contractors one in eleven trucks on all American highways or perhaps more...

    To move America one does it a load at a time upon a truck of some sort and to move a 53 foot beauty down the road how does one power that at four bucks a gallon for diesel fuel? Or more? And more?

    This will not end pretty...

    thanx

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    The Pursuit of Free Energy
    Wade,
    With Dennis heat pump achieved 6,629,600 BTU / (15*24) hour = 18416 BTU /hour

    18416 BTU/hr = 5.4 kW hour average with input electricity of 1.025 kW average for a COP of 5.26

    Now Victor Fisher engine getting 28% efficiency.
    You could send the output of heat pump to the victor fisher or Mr. Mentor engine and get 5.4 * .28 = 1.51 kW electricity + 3.89 kW (or 13239 btu) of heat

    If we run the system on the output electricity from itself we will still have .49 kW of electricity + 13200 BTU from the system all this is free after installation costs $12000 for heat pump + (lets say) $12000 for Mr. Mentor engine.

    Solar electric 5 kW system costs $25000 or more and is enough for an average household consuming 1 kW/hour this provides no heat.

    Wade says "Of that 50% of the USA's energy consumption that goes to heat, most is used to heat human environments." which means that the $24000 system would be enough for a household with heat to spare.

    No wonder you were shut down.

    =====Added later======
    Also while I am sure there is some marketing spin Dennis was correct in calling his system "Free Energy" even without ZPE and such.

    I will also note that the heat pump follows standard laws of physics. The engine is novel but I am convinced that it fits todays white science physics.
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    Hi:

    Ilie, what I always try to do is think atomically, when thinking about chemistry and related matters. White Science cannot see atomically, but trying to understand the dynamics at those levels can assist with understanding. One problem with thinking atomically is that quantum theory does not lend itself to imagining what is happening, and Einstein and Schroedinger, for instance, did not like quantum theory for that reason, as it could not explain what was happening in a way that made sense. Classical theory cannot explain how atoms work, either, but it can help with visualizing what happens.

    When a photon hits a rock, for instance, it generally bounces off, back into space (which is how we can see that rock ). But sometimes the photon is absorbed, and being absorbed means that it was captured by an electron. That capture boosted the electron into a higher orbit, and that higher orbit will translate into more motion and, hence, a higher temperature. But the atoms in a rock are not anywhere near the energetic level where a Sun's photon will boost it enough to attain the activation energy so that the rock's atoms will react. Those rocks are already at low levels of potential chemical energy, as the easy reactions happened long ago. Photons will eventually be emitted, usually at a lower wavelength (infrared), so the rock that heated up in the daytime will cool off at night. Very little in the way of chemical reactions takes place in that daily heating and cooling of a rock by sunlight and night.

    In the capture of a photon by photosynthesis, that photon would be almost immediately emitted again, but chlorophyll removes that photon from the receptor that captured that electron and moved it to more stable orbits. The first transport of the electron in photosynthesis happens in less than a trillionth of a second. When a reptile basks, it heats up like that rock does, but the reptile is full of chemicals, if you will, that are close to the activation energy needed to react, and that heating by photons is enough to help those reactions called life happen faster. I may write more of these kinds of visualization exercises, to assist the understanding.

    Dan is referring to my visit to James's Ranch in June. Yes, we saw some strange stuff in the skies, as usual.

    Hi Freeknowledge, I'll get a little bit into the numbers and motives, here. Capturing and skimming markets has been the elite game from the first civilization. What we call capitalism is merely the same game adapted to industrial production. Godzilla is capitalism on steroids. This is not conceptually difficult, but people prefer to stay in denial of those dynamics, and the rad left has openly admitted it, as far as Godzilla goes. Having some understanding of the soul's journey and the dark path is also helpful for understanding motivations. Wealth is just a means to power at those levels of the game, and Godzilla has a very vested interest in keeping humanity in scarcity and fear, as that is how he gets his jollies on his power trip.

    High tech is still relatively young and innocent, while the energy and medical industries are truly ancient and among the greatest rackets on Earth. They will not allow anything onto the scene that will challenge their supremacy and keeping the cash registers ringing, even if it means the agonizing deaths of millions, even billions, even an entire planet. Even Chomsky says that institutional ideology ranks hegemony over survival. It can be difficult for "normal" people to comprehend that mentality, but really, they have just taken the game that almost all people play, to one degree or another, and refined it to very high levels.

    So, on an economic level, the rackets have to be carefully managed, as they are the source of the power games that Godzilla plays, and there are many levels of the game, and perhaps the most elementary is trying to keep one's job.

    As I have written, it is a very old game, to find a key place in an energy path to intervene and control and skim. Even bears do it. John Rockefeller quickly realized that if he could control the path from oil well to market, that he could control the entire nascent industry. Microsoft's control of the operating system, and its attempts to wipe out Netscape, was the same strategy, and Rockefeller and Gates became the world's richest men via their dirty monopolistic strategies.

    Most Americans buy their indoctrination hook, line, and sinker, and Dennis was no different. Nor was Brian, nor was Ralph. They all bought the BS. Dennis and Ralph almost did not survive their moments of awakening, but that overgrown Boy Scout nature of theirs never quite went away, and Dennis and Brian banged on the Establishment's front doors all the way to the end, even after that Establishment tried to kill both of them (1, 2), and Dennis should be dead dozens of times over. They were both run out of their home nations that they grew up believing in so much (1, 2).

    Dennis, like Sparky, believed the propaganda, although Dennis had more excuse in Seattle than Sparky did in California, but they both thought that they would get tickertape parades for their breakthroughs, but the opposite happened.

    Dennis's heat pump would bring far too much savings to Washington's electric market, which was why they wiped him out. Sparky's invention meant Game Over for the entire energy industry. Their naïveté in one way was charming, but was suicidal in another.

    On the numbers, that Gannon's installation really did not have big hot water needs, so 18K BTUs per hour was low. The system could produce 100K BTUs per hour. While the BTUs were important, more important were the COPs. As I wrote, macro-economically, that heat pump would reduce fuel used by 50% for heating. Energy companies try to sell as much energy as possible. Their so-called support for conservation is fraudulent. It is just the typical racket propaganda that can be found in any industry, to make it seem like they really care for the common good, when that is the furthest thing from their minds. It is all about profits.

    For Dennis's heat pump or Fischer's or Mr. Mentor's engines, the temperatures that they operated between were important for calculating their potential performance. Dennis's heat pump had the added virtue of direct absorption of photon energy, which I began this post with, which improved its performance over just working off of the temperature differentials between the environment and the heat sink that was exhausted to. The bottom line is that those technologies would impact the bottom line of the rackets, and so were unacceptable. Only people who believe the fairy tales of The Land of the Free and free markets (and a free press, an objective history, and the like) fail to understand how the world really works. It really is not conceptually difficult to understand, but people have to want to understand. Few do.

    Time for work.

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    Most Americans buy their indoctrination hook, line, and sinker,

    On the numbers, that Gannon's installation really did not have big hot water needs, so 18K BTUs per hour was low. The system could produce 100K BTUs per hour.


    High tech is still relatively young and innocent,

    Microsoft's control of the operating system, and its attempts to wipe out Netscape, was the same strategy, and Rockefeller and Gates became the world's richest men via their dirty monopolistic strategies.
    Like Americans, Indians also believe whatever they are raised with, or brings them immediate short term economic gain, we can easily generalize it to all of humanity.

    Gannon's would have had 100,000 BTU system the 18,000 was average per hour over a 15 day period. Just like 5kw solar is required for a home using 1 kw Gannon would have a system of peak 100,000 BTU

    Regarding Microsoft/high tech, copyright itself is a government granted monopoly (as are patents)
    Microsoft's monopolistic practices are on top of government granted monopolies (copyrights).

    A very good essay on the issue is Misinterpreting Copyright—A Series of Errors by Richard Stallman

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    Hi,

    I think I may understand better what Wade is saying and what my confusion was.

    One the essential life processes it's called carbon fixation. That is the conversion of so called "inorganic carbon" (from CO2 - carbon dioxide) into organic compounds that are the building blocks of life as we know it (on this planet at least).

    So the question is: "How do various organisms go about satisfying their carbon obsession!?"

    And this is where the interesting distinction comes between chemosynthesis and photosynthesis. Before getting into that, a small aside...

    In my mind, energy is energy! And these names of "chemical energy", "solar energy", "potential energy", "kinetic energy", "activation energy" sometimes seem arbitrary distinctions and I find them confusing. I wish they just said ENERGY and say its VALUE in Joules and be done with that. But the names seem to have some use if you want to understand where this energy comes from. So in chemosynthesis the energy comes from the chemical reaction known as "oxidation" and in photosynthesis the energy comes from the Sun. (Of course you can ask where does the Sun energy come from and where does the chemical energy come from and see where that gets you... It gets me confused into the so called big-bang...)

    But moving on... Life needs Carbon, that much is clear! So it needs a way to fixate it in its structure so it can grow. And now we come to the second important distinction:

    On one hand we have life that fixates it own carbon, like plants do. (The buzz word is "autotroph")

    On the other had we have life that does not know how to fixate its own carbon, so what it does is to eat the ones that do! Like us human eat other organisms as a source of "organic carbon". (The scientific term for that heterotroph).

    It's now obvious that reptiles are heterotrophs, hence Wade's remark: "the reptile is full of chemicals [...] that are close to the activation energy needed to react". Reptiles basking in the Sun do not use that energy to "fixate carbon" per se, but to make good use of the organic carbon that is already present in the stuff they just ate.

    Now back to my initial problem: "life has no way to capture heat to power biology". What this means, is that as far as we know from the carbon chemistry, life cannot use heat directly to fixate carbon and create organic compounds.

    Life however, does use heat indirectly, in the form of "activation energy" required for the chemical reactions to take place.

    Things start to get fuzzy when you go atomic or sub-atomic level. As I have said, it's not exactly clear in my mind what's the difference between Sun's energy ("radiated photos") and "heat" (or thermal energy). And why is easier for life to make use of the radiation (the photons) but not the thermal energy. The answer to that question may be that the life did not figure out a power-plant that could function as a steam engine, but it could figure out a power-plant that could absorb radiation.

    And I am going to stop here, before I confuse myself again .
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    Hi:

    I have a few topics in the queue, and this one will be about FE physics a little. As Freeknowledge noted, Dennis's heat pump and Mr. Mentor's engine had performance that did not violate the "laws of physics," but marrying them together to do FE would have violated the second law of thermodynamics. But early in my FE days with Dennis, clear back to Boston, we encountered scientists who thought that the second law, at least as currently conceived, could be defeated. At NEM, I encountered another, a few months before he was murdered. They were not the only ones, either.

    Could super heat pumps and hydraulic heat engines do FE? Beats me, but it is worth trying to find out, but then you have this happen.

    But tapping the ZPF is far superior to heat pumps and heat engines, and is the likely path to a Type 1 civilization. Of course, the so-called" laws of physics" say that ZPE, other than the Casimir effect, is "impossible," too, but people such as Einstein's protégé thought that the ZPF was harvestable. I encountered many scientists and inventors who took it much further than theory. Tesla was about the first to theorize about it, which scared the robber barons, and organized suppression of FE probably began around then.

    Adam Trombly was another, as was Mark Comings, as was Sparky Sweet, and they all had hell to pay. Back in the early 1990s, I read a paper by Tom Bearden, who argued that standard physics and electrical theory killed FE devices by grounding the circuits. ZPE theory often states that not grounding the circuit is what makes it work for producing FE. When Mr. Advisor visited Sparky back in the 1980s, Sparky showed him that wiring, which "should" have shorted out when connected, but instead it went into overdrive, cranking out FE, and ice formed on it. I'll never forget the awe in Mr. Advisor's voice as he described it to me. James Gilliland's pal Max invented a device like Sparky's, it also ran cold, and also defied conventional notions of circuits, and Max said that the first scientist who could explain how it worked could have the gizmo for free. Nobody could, and instead, Max had hell to pay, Godzilla got involved, people died, etc. Back in my early days of this stuff, one close pal got a show from the "White Hats," although I think their hats were more gray than white.

    Also, in my early days of discovery, Brian O began snooping into UFOs and had his life shortened by the American military. As I have written plenty, Bearden blunders in his theorizing, and Dennis can come across like an idiot when he tries to explain his technologies to lay audiences (and he is scientifically illiterate), but FE and related technologies are very real and covered up, and much of the technology may well have come from reverse-engineered captured ET craft. UFOs and FE are conjoined cover ups, and likely history's greatest. Armchair critics and "skeptics" scoff and spew disinformation, but I happen to know better, as does anybody who has actually played on the high road.

    The fringes are full of technology and phenomena that White Science can't explain, such as how Naessens's and Rife's microscopes worked, how Brown's Gas could transmute radioactive materials, and how remote viewings work. I have watched "skeptics" and others turn logical summersaults and lie outright, to try to make those "anomalies" go away, but they are pursuable to anybody with a little gumption, but people have to get out of their armchairs to go find out.

    To Freeknowledge's observation that Indians also believe what they are raised with and will always pursue immediate self-interest if given the chance, this is one of the main points of my work. We are all the Universal People, and there is no nation, no organization, no people, who is going to make FE happen, as personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity, universally. That is why I know that I seek needles in haystacks. I have written on the kinds of people and reactions to my work that I seek, and plan to expand on it a little in a coming post.

    Best,

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