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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Not even look harder Matt, just needs to look.

    With respect Twain.


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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    I have posted this before and is a interesting look at this scenario....


    How to Fake an Alien Invasion




    Published on 8 Feb 2015


    SHOW NOTES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=13551

    We all know about the crude pie-plate-on-string UFO hoaxes that have
    been perpetrated in the past. But what if I were to tell you the greatest
    UFO hoax of all time is being prepared right now, and it has Rockefeller
    backing and UN/Vatican/presidential support? Join us this week as we
    peek under the bluebeam curtain at the great alien invasion false flag.
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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    In french tele-vision almost every week people can watch some UFO documentaries and cases.
    Since at least one year I noticed a wave of this sort of documentaries.

    Not too long ago I saw Europcar truck with "smart" advertising on the street. The message is put out there for everybody to see if they can of course. After all this years of programming, ridicule and secrecy the "aliens" are among us.

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    If a false flag ET invasion was to be played out the groundwork for mass media
    mind control and deception has been developing for decades as well. Also some of
    the technology is in the public domain as James Corbett and others have reported
    is here . Plus as David Icke would say when you connect the dots a lot of these
    topics and agendas seem to be linked.

    Near the end of the Corbett report vid above they show a clip about the US 'psyop
    plane' and how they have developed mind control tecniches and how they use it to
    manipulate the public , 9/11 and the war on terror and the many lone shooters and
    false headlines....The vid below shows how the US Mil & CIA have no qualms
    experimenting on militarypersonnel and civilians. Which is on going with the
    Chemtrail programme and other covertactivities. Drills can become live as on 7/7 ,
    and 'crisis actors' and real victims can be difficult to tell apart and easy to mislead
    the mass media for long enough to get their immiediate agenda's in operation.

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    Hollywood style! US Commentator // Crisis Actors // UK Police Stage Counter-
    Terror Training Exercise in London?

    How is it possible the 'real' bombers could all be at the very stations the drills
    were taking place ? Its unbelievable yet no mainstream outlet with proper
    resources has looked into the alternate 7/7 material.....


    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...cise-in-London

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    How Fake Are Major News Events? Just Watch

    By ickonic on 19th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, Problem-Reaction-Solution




    ‘Do you really want to be the last of your friends to realize that fake actors are being
    used to create major memes in the world? Once you’ve seen how the magician does
    the trick, you won’t be fooled again.’

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    Jesuit Crown Mi6 CIA Human Experiments in the United States - MK-ULTRA Mind Control - Psyops



    Published on 7 Nov 2012


    April 1980

    MKULTRA Compendium: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1441......

    In 1950, the CIA initiated Project Bluebird, later renamed Project Artichoke, whose
    stated purpose was to develop "the means to control individuals through special
    interrogation techniques", "way[s] to prevent the extraction of information from
    CIA agents", and "offensive uses of unconventional techniques, such as hypnosis
    and drugs". The purpose of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952
    that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our
    bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self
    preservation?" The project studied the use of hypnosis, forced morphine addiction
    and subsequent forced withdrawal, and the use of other chemicals, among other
    methods, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects. In order
    to "perfect techniques for the abstraction of information from individuals, whether
    willing or not", Project Bluebird researchers experimented with a wide variety of
    psychoactive substances, including LSD, heroin, marijuana, cocaine, PCP,
    mescaline, and ether. Project Bluebird researchers dosed over 7,000 U.S. military
    personnel with LSD, without their knowledge or consent, at the Edgewood Arsenal
    in Maryland. More than 1,000 of these soldiers suffered from several psychiatric
    illnesses, including depression and epilepsy, as a result of the tests. Many of them
    tried to commit suicide.

    In 1953, the CIA placed several of its interrogation and mind-control programs
    under the direction of a single program, known by the code name MKULTRA, after
    CIA director Allen Dulles (Jesuit) complained about not having enough "human
    guinea pigs to try these extraordinary techniques". The MKULTRA project was under
    the direct command of Dr. Sidney Gottlieb of the Technical Services Division. The
    project received over $25 million, and involved hundreds of experiments on human
    subjects at eighty different institutions.

    In a memo describing the purpose of one MKULTRA program subprogram, Richard
    Helms said: We intend to investigate the development of a chemical material which
    causes a reversible, nontoxic aberrant mental state, the specific nature of which
    can be reasonably well predicted for each individual. This material could potentially
    aid in discrediting individuals, eliciting information, and implanting suggestions and
    other forms of mental control. —Richard Helms, internal CIA memo

    In 1954, the CIA's Project QKHILLTOP was created to study Chinese brainwashing
    techniques, and to develop effective methods of interrogation. Most of the early
    studies are believed to have been performed by the Cornell University Medical
    School's human ecology study programs, under the direction of Dr. Harold Wolff.
    Wolff requested that the CIA provide him any information they could find
    regarding "threats, coercion, imprisonment, deprivation, humiliation,
    torture, 'brainwashing', 'black psychiatry', and hypnosis, or any combination of
    these, with or without chemical agents". According to Wolff, the research team
    would then: ...assemble, collate, analyze and assimilate this information and will
    then undertake experimental investigations designed to develop new techniques of
    offensive/defensive intelligence use ... Potentially useful secret drugs (and various
    brain damaging procedures) will be similarly tested in order to ascertain the
    fundamental effect upon human brain function and upon the subject's mood ...
    Where any of the studies involve potential harm of the subject, we expect the
    Agency to make available suitable subjects and a proper place for the performance
    of the necessary experiments. —Dr. Harold Wolff, Cornell University Medical School

    Another of the MKULTRA subprojects, Operation Midnight Climax, consisted of a
    web of CIA-run safehouses in San Francisco, Marin, and New York which were
    established in order to study the effects of LSD on unconsenting individuals.
    Prostitutes on the CIA payroll were instructed to lure clients back to the safehouses,
    where they were surreptitiously plied with a wide range of substances, including
    LSD, and monitored behind one-way glass. Several significant operational
    techniques were developed in this theater, including extensive research into sexual
    blackmail, surveillance technology, and the possible use of mind-altering drugs in
    field operations.



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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Quote Posted by lucidity (here)
    You could use any of the world's major telescopes and point towards these
    exo-planets.. or better still... point Hubble at them. Why waste £64M ?
    The people making the funding decisions _know_ there are aliens.
    This project is doing something else... it's not as advertised.
    You have to remember that telescopes (including Hubble) are optical devices, whereas Radio-Telescopes are electromagnetic devices (RF).

    In other words, an optical telescope is incapable of seeing a radio transmission.

    But the coverage of SETI within the MSM has increased dramatically in recent weeks. So yes, they're "doing something else... not as advertised".


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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    ehummm , they are aware of us , we are their little brothers ... they interbred with our ancestors ... in a sense we are family ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    There is no reason from our point of view , but they are playing
    to a mainstream audience, and although many believe ET's
    must exist. Unless they start researching on sites like this.
    They are still going to look at mainstream for answers.
    Exactly right!

    They've been conditioning the public through the MSM (especially movies) for many many years now.

    With the proper amount of shock/awe, delivered with sufficient technology (and believe me they have it), it would not be a hard-sell at all!


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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    i wish the media would take UFO reports seriously but don't see it happening. I do see some reports but they seem to only ridicule the subject matter...


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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Regarding the False Flag Alien Attack:

    Some will recall this but many now may not even be aware of it.

    Take a step all the way back to December 2010 and read The False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Note that this article was published on the leading-edge of the great False Flag Alien Invasion Flap within the Alt-community.


    Wow, that just might be a record bump!

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Call me a conspiracy theorist but Stephen Hawking can barely move. If I remember right, he can only send messages by twitching a muscle in his cheek, or something to that extent. So how hard would it be to put him up on a pedestal as a supergenius, and then just put all kinds of words into his proverbial mouth, since he can't speak for himself anyway anymore?

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Quote Posted by mpennery (here)
    Sorry, Twain, and with all respect but there is so much evidence for alien life it's really quite remarkable to see someone state so confidently that there is no evidence. There's so much I cannot even imagine where to begin. Books and names just racing through my head...
    I would encourage you to look a little harder.

    Matt
    Books and names don't amount to proof and evidence. Plenty of fantasts have written books making claims. Fact is, no proof = no aliens.

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    There is a massive disconnect between the already amassed evidence and phenomenon and these separate little flowerings of serious intent - it seems odd, and I also think this is more of a red-herring , a gesture.

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

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    Books and names don't amount to proof and evidence. Plenty of fantasts have written books making claims. Fact is, no proof = no aliens.
    You could also add science knows nothing , the more we learn of this reality is anything real ?
    or the interpretations we decode in the brain and thru our 'lying eyes' as some like to say.
    At the atomic level nothing is solid , which makes you think when it sinks in ,and there are
    many variations on the theme on the structure of this reality and our experience in it.

    Some say we are a product of evolution , we are born , die and that's it. Others think
    this is just an experience and we are far more than this physical meatsack body , and
    of course this debate has gone on forever and will carry on with science and practical
    thought being prevalent in some time periods and religious , and spiritual at others .

    Today in the era of mass communication we can debate it openly , but for how long ?
    There have always been 'mind control ' and deception programmes from the church
    pulpit , Royal proclomations , government propaganda , to local landlords and today
    the Corporate world that all influence the majority of our lives. From there you can
    go in all different directions and connect dots and end up back where you started.
    We are all 'wonderful human creators, gods' and when we remember that and
    reconnect physical and non-physical we will perceive this corporeal reality in a
    whole different way and some already are.

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    The Rise of an Intuitive Humanity

    By ickonic on 18th July 2015 The Awakening, The Matrix



    The Rise of an Intuitive Humanity

    Consciousness
    Empowerment
    Esoterica
    Forbidden Knowledge

    by Elle - Jul 17, 2015




    ‘Social and cultural change is occurring fast right now across this planet, and it
    looks as if it will accelerate further. Many people are experiencing a wide range of
    personal impacts, disruptions, and rearrangements in their lives. At the same time,
    we are also seeing how our social infrastructures, modes of communication, and
    connectivity are adjusting and shifting to these changes. Within the last 150 years
    alone we have witnessed an amazingly rapid process of transition in human
    civilization, perhaps even without being consciously aware of it. In terms of the
    bigger picture, this is an incredibly swift rate of change.

    The ebb and flow of human history has cradled the gradual unfolding of the
    individual and the growing responsibility that this implies. This emerging ‘blooming
    of the individual’ has occurred alongside the story of the slow decline in aristocracy,
    elite rule, and the demise of tyranny. This human story has accelerated in recent
    centuries, with the fall of feudalism; the birth of democracy; and the growth of an
    increasingly connected global humanity. Alongside this we have also seen the
    increasing acceptance and sharing of planetary values. We could say that human
    society is in the early contractions of the birth of a planetary civilization.’

    Read more: The Rise of an Intuitive Humanity

    http://www.zengardner.com/rise-intuitive-humanity/


    I've gone a bit esoteric in this post ....LOL....A couple of old classics....

    THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS JOHNNY NASH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEstgTAXyec

    jimmy cliff - i can see clearly now

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzGV9Bl6CGg
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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Slightly off at tangent but related as I look on Davids Headline page , the BBC , RT
    and other sources most days events and memes start to pop out at me that are
    connected sometimes you can post them together, but usually separate and its up
    to everyone to decide for themselves. Unfortunately as part of what we have been
    discussing 'mind control / population influence and policy directives' whether
    peaceful , social events or becoming more openly obvious financial and militarily
    manipulative

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    The ISIS scam , David Cameron is determined to get the UK back on a war footing
    and join the coalition to attack Syria.To cut a long story short the Neo -Con /
    Zionist plans that have been playing out since the end of the cold war , were stalled
    by the UK parliament voting against mil action.The US/UK/Israeli led coalition could
    invade Syria like they did Afghanistan and Iraq but still need the pretence of public
    support , hence all the false flags 9/11 ,7/7 etc. The latest one the Tunisian
    shootings were designed to get the UK public to demand action , the classic "
    Problem Reaction Sollution" Scenario.....

    David is an expert at picking out articles and connecting dots , just like CIA and intel analysts do.....


    Evil Triumphs: The West’s Hand Behind ISIS Confirmed

    By ickonic on 18th July 2015 Political Manipulation, Problem-Reaction-Solution, War and Terror




    ‘For years now judicious analysts have been saying that ISIS, which now calls itself
    the Islamic State, is a synthetic witches’ brew of malcontents organized, armed and
    trained by the West and its regional appendages in the Arab Gulf countries.

    Despite an overwhelming sand storm of disinformation emanating from the mainstream media that
    laughably portrayed the militant group and its creepy offshoots as wholly organic, critical thinkers have
    insisted that ISIS is a controlled outfit of covert mercenaries that were manufactured by Western powers
    and first wielded like a samurai sword against the Gaddafi regime in Libya. Once the North African country
    was swallowed whole by the Wahhabi onslaught, which was directed by CIA and MI6 “advisors” on the
    ground and reinforced by NATO airstrikes from above, the same stock and breed of criminal miscreants
    were promptly set upon Syria to ravage that unsuspecting nation.’

    Read more: Evil Triumphs: The West’s Hand Behind ISIS Confirmed

    http://levant.tv/blog-posts/evil-tri...sis-confirmed/

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    Israel-made ISIS drone downed in Iraq: Report

    By ickonic on 21st July 2015


    ‘Iraq’s Popular Mobilization units and regular army forces have downed an Israeli-manufactured surveillance
    drone operated by the Takfiri ISIL terrorist group near the restive city of Fallujah, west of the capital, Baghdad.
    The downing of the drone came on Sunday after the Iraqi forces detected the unmanned aircraft roaming
    around, the local al-Maalouma news agency reported citing a security source.The drone was reportedly taking
    photographs when it was downed by the Iraqi forces near Fallujah. An examination of the wreckage of the drone
    later revealed that it was manufactured by an Israeli arms maker.’

    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07...ja-ISIL-Israel



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    Fury after Cameron admits he knew British RAF pilots were carrying out ISIS airstrikes ‘by stealth’
    in Syria as minister says they’ll carry on without approval of MPs

    By ickonic on 18th July 2015 War and Terror




    ‘British pilots will continue to fly US fighter jets to bomb Islamic State targets in Syria without the
    approval of Parliament, the Defence Secretary said last night.

    Ministers were accused of deceiving the public yesterday after it emerged that at least three Royal
    Navy pilots have been killing IS fighters in the war-torn country even though MPs have voted
    against military action there.

    Michael Fallon said he had always known ‘a handful’ of UK military personnel were involved in air strikes
    against jihadists in Syria, but this was acceptable because they were embedded with the US military.

    Speaking at the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford, Gloucestershire, the Defence Secretary
    added: ‘This is quite standard practice. Isil has to be defeated. We don’t have, at the moment,
    parliamentary authority to carry out military strikes in Syria, but the Americans do… and they have
    been doing that to keep all of us safe.’’

    Read more: Fury after Cameron admits he knew British RAF pilots were carrying out ISIS airstrikes
    ‘by stealth’ in Syria as minister says they’ll carry on without approval of MPs

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-groups.html

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    British Prime Minister Cameron Orders RAF Bombings of Syria without Parliamentary Approval.
    Commits UK on US TV to War against Islamic State

    By ickonic on 20th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, War and Terror




    GLOBAL Research.....

    ‘David Cameron speaking in an interview with US TV network NBC about western bombing raids in
    Syria has said he wants “the UK to do more but that he needs to “take Parliament with him”.”

    Cameron’s words come as a closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

    Friday we reported that British pilots have been actively involved in NATO missions bombing Syria
    and apart from Cameron, and presumably his inner circle, British parliament has not been included
    in the decision making process.

    RAF pilots involved are part of an exchange program with foreign forces but the idea that they could
    be used in active missions opposed by parliament in 2013 weakens British democracy.’

    Read more: British Prime Minister Cameron Orders RAF Bombings of Syria without Parliamentary
    Approval. Commits UK on US TV to War against Islamic State


    http://www.globalresearch.ca/picture...-state/5463231


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    Ex-defence chief: Britain must get on a ‘war footing’ to defeat Islamic State

    By ickonic on 20th July 2015 War and Terror





    THE TELEGRAPH..................



    ‘Britain must accept that “sooner or later” ground troops and tanks will have to
    be sent into combat to overcome Isil, a former chief of the Armed Forces has said.

    Lord Richards said that David Cameron needed to put the country on a “war footing”
    and rethink its military strategy to extinguish the threat posed by Islamic State of
    Iraq and the Levant (Isil) militants.

    He indicated that “tanks would have to roll and there’s going to have to be boots on the
    ground”, as he took a swipe at the existing approach, describing it as “dribbling, not clouting”.’

    Read more: Ex-defence chief: Britain must get on a ‘war footing’ to defeat Islamic State

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...mic-State.html


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    British Media Uses Fake Video Footage to Accuse Syria’s President of Killing his Own People

    By ickonic on 21st July 2015 Political Manipulation, Problem-Reaction-Solution, Useless Media, War and Terror



    GLOBAL Research.....


    ‘The Telegraph has brought out a new dribble of disinformation regarding the US-NATO led war in Syria.
    In an article published in May 2015, entitled Bashar al-Assad’s airmen laugh as they drop barrel bombs
    on fellow Syrians, 20 May 2015, The Telegraph intimates (based on an Al Jazeera video report) that the
    Syrian Air Force is killing Syrian civilians on the orders of Bashar Al Assad. The extensive bombing raids
    by US and allied forces in Syria allegedly against the ISIS are not mentioned.

    Below is the analysis of Robert Stuart in his open letter to The Telegraph.

    Stuart shows how The Telegraph has “skilfully” used stock footage from 2012, to support its lies and fabrications.

    Meanwhile Britain has joined the humanitarian bombing campaign without parliamentary assent, not to
    mention the unspoken truth: British covert support to the ISIS terrorists in liaison with the US, Turkey and Israel.’

    Read more: British Media Uses Fake Video Footage to Accuse Syria’s President of Killing his Own People

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/british...people/5463437

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    Israeli-linked SITE Intelligence Involved in Chattanooga Shooting Narrative

    By ickonic on 21st July 2015 Political Manipulation, Problem-Reaction-Solution, War and Terror




    GLOBAL Research

    ‘News reports of the July 16 shootings in Chattanooga Tennessee already provide some curious features that warrant
    close scrutiny. Perhaps unsurprisingly, complete oversight of the shooting investigation has been turned over to the FBI.
    Also, the Israeli-linked SITE Intelligence Group is involved in providing the news frame for alleged shooter Muhammed
    Youssef Abdulazeez.

    For over a decade now the FBI has been busy creating phony terror events throughout the US to provide the semblance
    of a discernible enemy in the “war on terror,” as investigative reporter Trevor Aaronson has documented. This has proven
    immensely lucrative for the Western military-intelligence-media complex.’

    Read more: Israeli-linked SITE Intelligence Involved in Chattanooga Shooting Narrative

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli...rative/5463207


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    The list goes on , but if a fake alien invasion is on the cards at some point mind
    control is alive and well in the mainstream media. There are real events that go
    on as well , but you can definitely follow a game plan from higher players being
    played out on the screen and battleground.
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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    A-Haaaaa...............

    The fake Alien invasion.

    It's a possibility. But then so are all things.


    Regards.

    Yes, that's what also came to my mind imediately. There are some documentaries on German TV at the moment with a lot of alleged disclosure.
    I was wondering, if this is true, and if so, why are they telling us all of a sudden? Made me then think, if they are preparing us for their fake attack, so most of the people believe that this must be the Aliens.

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    Hi Twain
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    Quote Posted by mpennery (here)
    Sorry, Twain, and with all respect but there is so much evidence for alien life it's really quite remarkable to see someone state so confidently that there is no evidence. There's so much I cannot even imagine where to begin. Books and names just racing through my head...
    I would encourage you to look a little harder.

    Matt
    Books and names don't amount to proof and evidence. Plenty of fantasts have written books making claims. Fact is, no proof = no aliens.
    I can't actually say I've met an Alien!
    Had drawings of a charecter I came to call 'Jimmy'

    Later at around age 35 I forced my way into a realm where I came face to face with an entity that I later was told was a Djinn! Now those who research the Djinn have come to the conclusion that they are responsible for many of the sightings, they can shape-shift, effect your mind etc!
    Djinn by the way are entities that our western religions have demonized into, Well'Demons' we wrongly call them Demons! The east has very old knowledge of them!

    I have seen (Own Eyes) at-least 3 different flying object that could have been!
    I have seen (Own Eyes) 3 very different, hidden tech/other worldly craft!
    I have seen (Own Eyes) 1 craft that just had to be other-worldly/Alien, in fact this one I would call an ED craft!

    I put hand on my Heart and swear that I have witnessed the above but! no proof or evidence, I don't carry a camera with me and the I have would do very good either

    One of the above happened over a south-London supermarket, mid-day, that was a classic saucer. very big, no features on it at all!

    Where any of them actually real? Have I been mind-controlled? hallucination?

    Btw, at-least 2 of my sightings I lost time, and found myself in a different location to where I thought I witnessed it?
    Btw aging 2 I saw with other people!

    The Subject of False Flag Alien Invasion!
    Well when they start finishing up with the 'War on Terrorism' They will merge the momentum with a Disclosure.
    The Disclosure will in my view go something like this:
    "We have to tell you that for X-years now we have been using Trillions of your country's money in a secret war with Aliens!,
    we have developed many great devices, energies, craft, weapons (as given to us by great minded humans like 'Nikola Tesla')
    we have captured many great devices, energies, craft, weapons from the Aliens!
    We have Alien allies!

    We kept this secret in the hope of never needing to tell you! but now we have too!
    We are telling you this now because, unfortunately, things have not gone well and it's your time to join in!
    Your World needs you Now!"


    Of course the ever grateful sleepers will fall over backwards to join up and all the Trillions of cash the PTW have taken will be wiped clean!
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Dear Stephen Hawking... Find a mirror, look into the eyes of the person staring back... There is your alien!

    I win... keep yer money, though... I dont need or want it! Cheers...


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    No doubt this thread will die a quick death if we do not keep it alive...because there are just too many who rely on this psy-op trick to keep us believing that alien UFO exist and have visited us.

    It should also make us think about all the stories we get told by people...even on Avalon...about their interaction with alien ufo...even to the point of actually been in the ufo

    Do they think everyone believes these made up stories?

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    Default Re: Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

    Some people couldn't dare, cannot, lose their faith in Alien Visitors. The ET hypothesis was let go by most serious ufologists decades ago. What happened since then is that stories of abductions and claimants of contact have sparked a hysteria, where Aliens have taken the archetypal place of gods and devils, angels and demons, and higher 'dimensions', alternate timelines are our heaven hells.

    "No, it was aliens this whole time!"

    Still not evidence, and no proof, and with the internet giving voice to all manner of madness, we can see how stories get told, spread, interpolated by madmen, and groups with agendas.

    Anecdotal stories from every fanciful contactee do not help. Even the best contactee reports fail. Before aliens it was Masters and their Disciples. All stories with insufficient evidence except for the "believers" and "experiencers", something psychology calls delusions and psychosis, which can become "shared beliefs", shared delusions, no different than any other religion.

    But, OP gives us hope. Everyone wants to KNOW, even those who know it all.

    I say, let science, scientists and their methods handle it from here.

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    Ha! Theres plenty of eveidence, Ray. Proof is a sliding scale..

    Theres no evidence of chimpanzees in the fossil record. But ive seen one,, even been in the room with one... oh, I cant prove it,,, but I dont really care to, either...

    I agree that the whole -alien- thing plays on beliefs, and has created an unhealthy - o please save me- attitude..

    Ray, do you have PROOF that aliens do not exist? Or is it another BELIEF? Is there even any EVIDENCE that ets do not exist?

    Out of all of the stars in the galaxy, all of the galaxies,, sooo much unknown,,,, you are going to assure me that there is no intelligent life?? Anywhere, no?? Just this one planet???

    My friend, that is not only a fantasy wrapped in belief,, that is downright silly!

    I have no doubt that a gambit is afoot regarding a fake alien invasion scenario... lots of games, playing on the gullibility of our crowd...

    I believe it is absurdly egoic to insist that humans are the only life anywhere... My personal humility does not even allow for that...

    Ha! Maybe the universe is flat?

    Love to you Ray..
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