Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens

[Finefeather]

Posted by Jake (here)
Ha! Theres plenty of eveidence, Ray. Proof is a sliding scale..

Theres no evidence of chimpanzees in the fossil record. But ive seen one,, even been in the room with one... oh, I cant prove it,,, but I dont really care to, either...

I agree that the whole -alien- thing plays on beliefs, and has created an unhealthy - o please save me- attitude..

Ray, do you have PROOF that aliens do not exist? Or is it another BELIEF? Is there even any EVIDENCE that ets do not exist?

Out of all of the stars in the galaxy, all of the galaxies,, sooo much unknown,,,, you are going to assure me that there is no intelligent life?? Anywhere, no?? Just this one planet???

My friend, that is not only a fantasy wrapped in belief,, that is downright silly!

I have no doubt that a gambit is afoot regarding a fake alien invasion scenario... lots of games, playing on the gullibility of our crowd...

I believe it is absurdly egoic to insist that humans are the only life anywhere... My personal humility does not even allow for that...

Ha! Maybe the universe is flat?

Love to you Ray..
jake

Jake...my friend
Jake I never said that life does not exist elsewhere...I know it does...I was actually referring to aliens coming to visit us on planet earth...I think my post gave the wrong impression...sorry.

Now...If there is so much evidence...just give us one... just to clear it up for those who doubt it

I do not believe anything...I make sure I take a bus and go to the place where I can see for myself.

And no Jake the world is not flat...you silly boy

Love to you brother
Ray

[Twain]

Out of all of the stars in the galaxy, all of the galaxies,, sooo much unknown,, you are going to assure me that there is no intelligent life?? Anywhere, no?? Just this one planet??? ,

Almost every time I chat with some one, and debunk their particular alien contactee, I get the proverbial question above.

No one is saying ALIENS DO NOT EXIST ANYWHERE, only that there is no proof yet that they are on, around, or near earth, much less physical humanoid beings like most fantasies and psyops have portrayed them. That's just a fact. Another fact is, if aliens are as shifty, ignorant, deceiving as our contactee history suggests, then we should want nothing to do with them.

If people communicate with what they think are aliens, through telepathy or however, there is no difference between how they present themselves, the tales they tell, than from what spiritualist supposedly communicated with in their seances, except in what astral dress they wear.

Photos and videos of UFO's have all been inconclusive, and mostly hoaxed. I think people who believe "they're here" should keep their mind open to the possibility that they are not, yet; and that if people are seeing and hearing what they think are UFO's and aliens, they should be very careful and consider that they MIGHT have a brain malfunction, or untrained clairvoyance-- two dangerous and related things.

2 cents more.

[Jake]

Of course, Twain,, I agred with everything you said..

That still does not mean that ET's aren't engaging planet earth.. Furthermore, if they aren't. ?. Prove it...

I'm playing a big of devils advocate her,, lol... But folks are so quick to demand proof,, when they themselves are speaking from complete conjecture! If you cannot offer proof that aliens DONT exist (engaging planet earth),, then you really have no business demanding proof that they do... It Is just argumentative, and I dont see the point... Did someone show you guys proof that aliens arent engaging wee planet earth? Honestly, you are painting others with your BELIEFS.

I can see the religious, esoteric dogma as clear as I can see the scientific DOGMA... Proof is a political term, used by someone trying to use the evidence to argue a pre conclusion. Besides, Science is about Evidence,, not proof..

Demand proof, only when you have some... Otherwise I believe an open minded discussion regarding the Evidence is more fruitful..


Jake. (Jake realizes that his argument is a bit obtuse... lol.. )

No, of course thd universe is not flat... you'll see no mental gymnastics from me on that one...

[Twain]

If the biggest names in ufology today are Wilcock, Greer, Webre, and others as creepy as them (like the team that perpetuated the Roswell Slides hoax recently--no excuses for them) ... and the only evidence we get are hoax videos and misidentification ... and the people claiming contact are Marshal Van Summers, Rael, Corey Goode, Billy Meier, Cobra, Tanath, and any dozen of unstable people, I can assume the evidence leads to 'no contact'.

For me, early UFO's were a misguided US psyop against Russia, that affected the world. Before that, contactees were already making their claims and perpetrating their frauds ( all their fake prop photos ) ... They had good intentions, but like Joseph Smith, they based their system on lies with the intent to make men better. We don't need a new religion, and this is what ufology is becoming. We need to deconstruct it.

Prove there is no God or Jesus. Prove Thor does not exist. Prove aliens do not visit the earth and supply Santa with gifts for needy children. Wtf.

If you take the word of screen names or madmen, or scam artists like Greer and Wilcock, you ought to go back to a Christian church. They got this whole scene pegged from the start...

It's THE DEVIL UP THERE!

Lol. I hear you, Jake. Nice to meet you. Either way, it doesn't hurt to believe. Yet, proof is what counts for science. Evidence and theories that are peer reviewed and tested. Ufology, when it was at its best, was inconclusive. Now anyone can be a ufologists.

If you feel like reading a book on various types of unusual sightings people have had throughout a long period, all very strange, and not just little green men and space ships, check out David Pratts book : UFOs: The Psychic Dimension
http://davidpratt.info/ufo1.htm

For me, I'll wait for proof, wether real disclosure, or a universally agreed upon evidence based case for current or past contact. I think we'll get it soon enough, especially with movement like the OP article.

[Bluegreen]

"Now...If there is so much evidence...just give us one... just to clear it up for those who doubt it"

With love and respect, I would suggest that the following authors offer what is, in fact, documented evidence.

Sgt. Clifford Stone
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_stone.htm
Stan Romanek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Romanek
http://www.stanromanek.com
Grant Cameron
http://presidentialufo.com

[Jake]

Just one? Well now, that Is a challenge... lol. (Where do I start?)

Remember, we are talking Evidence,,, not proof... As far as Evidence goes,, here's one that is pretty solid!




BROAD-BAND NON IONIZING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION!!!!

The same radiation emitted from Unidentified Areal Phenomenon that are the center of countless classified documents regarding UFOs...

Long story short,,, The US government and the VA have admitted that Burroughs WAS injured in the line of duty ON the night in question IN Rendlesham forest BY BROAD-BAND NON IONIZING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION while standing near an UNIDENTIFIED GLOWING OBJECT !!! And have given him full VA benefits to cover medical treatments for his heart and his eyes, and his mental faculties...

Click here for Linda Moulton Howes indepth report... And links to further information, especially BBNIEMR...




Sad thing is,, it doesn't become Real,, until folks see it on their TV...

With love, always,
Jake

Posted by Bluegreen (here)
"Now...If there is so much evidence...just give us one... just to clear it up for those who doubt it"

With love and respect, I would suggest that the following authors offer what is, in fact, documented evidence.

Sgt. Clifford Stone
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_stone.htm
Stan Romanek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Romanek
http://www.stanromanek.com
Grant Cameron
http://presidentialufo.com

[Jake]

If you take the word of screen names or madmen, or scam artists like Greer and Wilcock, you ought to go back to a Christian church.

You and I agree on more than you realize! I, too,, am quite tired of the religious hang over that has invaded UFOlogy. -Deconstruct- it. I like that terminology. I have my own experiences with ETs,, and have my own take on proof than you do...

Indeed with the -santa clause- thing.. made me laugh... im glad you can see how absurd it is to insist to be offered proof for someone elses point of view when one does not even Consider that there is no proof for their own...

Some folks don't have the luxury of Belief... Sometimes I truly wish that I could be back in the box...

It's not ALL smoke and mirrors..
Jake

Welcome to Avalon, btw!

[Bluegreen]

"Evidence ... not proof"

Point taken

[betoobig]

the greatest evidence is the soooo long agenda through out our history to keep us enslaved... they don´t visit they where here long ago and never left... till now
The elite want us to fight in the wrong side, theirs.
LOVE
Juan

[Cidersomerset]

There are many witness's who said they saw ET's and some interact , as well as
multi/thousands abductees have had experiences of beings other than homo sapien
sapien . Even though some look human and maybe related to us , and there is a
large archive about this. Now I have not seen or spoken to one that I'm aware of ,
and certainly cannot prove they exist. But 99.9% of events and people who live in
this reality I have not met personally or experienced first hand their journeys. Most
of it is Oral , written or media driven and now the web, the myriad of conflicting
news items and agendas going on are manipulated everyday to various degrees.
We know what 'false flags 'are now , corporate agendas etc ......This was talked
about and discussed by politicians , historians and 'intellectuals' in the past , now
we can all discuss topics around the world without borders, malice and petty
squabbles. But for how long ? Uhm !!

So the answer for me , show us the evidence is meaningless . Yes I would like to
say look here, or there , but if you are not personally satisfied all I can say keep
looking and have fun doing so...LOL: ...( As well as frustration , particularly with
the likes of Nick Pope in my case )..LOL

MOD Spokesman and UFO Skeptic Nick Pope on Jimmy Church Fade To Black..4/3/15
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...772#post940772
Gary Heseltine: "M.O.D UFO Reporting Closed In Deliberate Act To Break Momentum That Was Building"
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-Was-Building
RICHPLANET TV - The Sheffield UFO Incident - 17/03/2015 // UFO Gatekeeper /debunkers Dr. David Clarke & Andy Roberts...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Andy-Roberts...

UFO Encounter 1954 UK...Jessie Roestenberg A very credible eye witness!
Was this an advanced terrestrial craft ? Or a Extra terrestrial visitors ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j3JlKlLVLEc

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Whitefeather put up a thread about Crop circles with a vid from Col Corso being
interviewed by an Italian researcher where among other topics he says he saw the
Roswell greys, which were possibly clones. He was a high ranking officer with
credible credentials. Is he telling the truth? Is he another dis info agent ? or an
ageing witness telling the truth, with TPTB knowing the mainstream will not take
him seriously.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...agnetic-Energy

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Who is col Corso......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Corso




Lt. Colonel Philip J. Corso was a highly decorated Army officer who served in World War II and the Korean War.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ttn3kE2bzXc

Published on 27 Apr 2015


Philip J. Corso says that he actually saw the body of a dead alien recovered from
the Roswell wreckage of 1947. For more than 50 years now, the world has been
captivated by the Roswell incident, and Colonel Philip J. Corso, retired American
Army officer, now deceased, has left us details of what he saw in 1947 at Fort Riley
in Kansas. He is the highest ranking officer to come forward with details about the
famous New Mexico crash.

[Becky]

Thanks Cider for posting the video of Jessie - what a wonderful woman to stand by what she saw and not pretend it didn't happen. I wonder if they were Nordics or Plejaren or another race that she saw?

[Cidersomerset]

I'm browsing thru my archive which is a bit chaotic...LOL

A few cases that are very interesting imo , some well known
others not so...........

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October 2014 Last updated at 01:31

The day UFOs stopped playBy Richard Padula
BBC World Service Sport




The Stadio Artemi Franchi in 1954, the year the UFOs were sighted



Sixty years ago a football match ground to a halt when unidentified flying objects were
spotted above a stadium in Florence. Did aliens come to earth? If not, what were they?

It was 27 October 1954, a typically crisp autumn day in Tuscany. The mighty Fiorentina
club was playing against its local rival Pistoiese.

Ten-thousand fans were watching in the concrete bowl of the Stadio Artemi Franchi. But
just after half-time the stadium fell eerily silent - then a roar went up from the crowd. The
spectators were no longer watching the match, but were looking up at the sky, fingers
pointing. The players stopped playing, the ball rolled to a stand-still.

One of the footballers on the pitch was Ardico Magnini - he was something of a legend
at the club and had played for Italy at the 1954 World Cup.

"I remember everything from A to Z," he says. "It was something that looked like an egg
that was moving slowly, slowly, slowly. Everyone was looking up and also there was some
glitter coming down from the sky, silver glitter.

"We were astonished we had never seen anything like it before. We were absolutely shocked."

Players pointing up at the sky


Play was suspended because spectators saw something in the sky, according to the
referee's match report.

Among the crowd was Gigi Boni, a lifelong Fiorentina fan. "I remember clearly seeing this
incredible sight," he says. His description of multiple objects differs slightly from Magnini's.

"They were moving very fast and then they just stopped. It all lasted a couple of minutes.
I would like to describe them as being like Cuban cigars. They just reminded me of Cuban
cigars, in the way they looked."



La Nazione had a photo of the UFO over Florence La Nazione's headline reads: Glass fibres
fall on Tuscan cities after globes and flying saucers pass by. Lower headline: The sighting
over Florence (with a photograph, now lost, of the UFO).

Boni has spent many years reliving that day in his mind. "I think they were extra-terrestrial.
That's what I believe, and there's no other explanation I can give myself."

Another of the players, Romolo Tuci, still sprightly in his 70s, agrees. "In those years everybody
was talking about aliens, everybody was talking UFOs and we had the experience, we saw them,
we saw them directly, for real."

The incident at the stadium cannot simply be interpreted as mass hysteria - there were numerous
UFO sightings in many towns across Tuscany that day and over the days that followed. According
to some eyewitness accounts a ray of white light was seen in the sky coming from Prato,
north of Florence.

Another man who relishes the chance to speak about that day is Roberto Pinotti, the president of
Italy's National UFO Centre. He has written many books about UFOs and his home in the centre of
Florence is stuffed full of alien memorabilia, posters of old Italian B-movies, framed newspaper
articles and black-and-white photographs of blurry flying saucers.

"The players and the public were stunned seeing these objects above the stadium," Pinotti says.

"At the time the newspapers spoke of aliens from Mars. Of course now we know that is not so - but
we may conclude that it was an intelligent phenomenon, a technological phenomenon and a
phenomenon that cannot be linked with anything we know on Earth."

He's also intrigued by the material that fell from the sky - what Magnini describes as silver glitter.



Illustration showing flying saucers over Florence "A wave of flying saucers over Italy," reported
the Domenica del Corriere three years later. With thanks to the Fondazione Corriere della Sera for
the use of material from their historic archives.





Artist's impression of UFOs over stadium A sketch of UFOs over the stadium by Silvio Neri

"It is a fact that at the same time the UFOs were seen over Florence there was a strange, sticky
substance falling from above. In English we call this 'angel hair'," says Pinotti.

"The only problem is after a short period of time it disintegrates." As a 10-year-old-boy he witnessed
this phenomenon himself. "I remember, in broad daylight, seeing the roofs of the houses in Florence
covered in this white substance for one hour and, like snow, it just evaporated.

"No-one knows what this strange substance has to do with UFOs."

"Angel hair" - the fluff that fell from the sky



Variously described by witnesses as similar to cotton wool or cobwebs, the substance was hard to collect
because it disintegrated on contact - but some people were determined to find out what it was.

One of them was a journalist at the Florentine newspaper La Nazione, the late Giorgio Batini. In 2003 he
told an Italian television programme, Voyager, how on that day he received hundreds of phone calls about
the sightings. From the offices of La Nazione in the centre of town his own view of the sky was blocked by
the Cathedral, so he went up to the top of the newspaper's building to see what everyone was talking about.
The 81-year-old recalled seeing "shiny balls" moving fast towards the dome of the Cathedral.

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The players and fans from that legendary game spoke to World Football on BBC World Service.

Listen via the iPlayer

Batini ventured out to investigate. He came across a wood outside the city that was covered in the white fluff.
He gathered several samples by rolling them up on a matchstick, and took them to the Institute of Chemical
Analysis at the University of Florence. When he got there he found that others had done the same.

The lab, led by respected scientist Prof Giovanni Canneri, subjected the material to spectrographic analysis and
concluded that it contained the elements boron, silicon, calcium and magnesium, and that it was not radioactive.
Unfortunately this did not provide any conclusive answers - and the material was destroyed in the process.



A sample of the mysterious "angel hair" A sample of the mysterious "angel hair" was photographed for the
newspapers Could it have come from a UFO? "It's an absolutely silly idea. Science totally rejects this idea,
" says US Air Force pilot-turned-astronomer James McGaha. From the Grasslands Observatory in South
Eastern Arizona he has spent more than 40,000 hours staring at the night sky. Not to mention the additional
hours he's spent in the cockpit of US fighter jets.

"You know the whole UFO phenomenon is nothing but myth, magic and superstition, wrapped up in this idea
that somehow aliens are coming here either to save us or destroy us," he says.

In McGaha's view, the whole spectacle, "angel hair" and all, was nothing more than migrating spiders.

"When I looked at this case originally I thought perhaps it was a fireball, a very bright meteor breaking up in
the atmosphere. They can be cigar-shaped with pieces breaking off. But it became fairly apparent that this
was actually caused by young spiders spinning webs, very, very thin webs.

"The spiders use these webs as sails and they link together and you get a big glob of this stuff in the sky and
the spiders ride on this to move between locations. They just fly on the wind and these things have been
recorded at 14,000 feet above the ground. So, when the sunlight glistens off this, you get all kinds of visual effects.


Short vid on migrating spider webs on link...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29342407

"As some of this stuff breaks off and falls to the ground, this all seems magical of course," says McGaha.
"But I'm fairly confident that's what happened that day."

This theory is backed up by the fact that September and October are the months when spiders in the northern
hemisphere migrate - and spectacular spider migrations still make headlines today. But it hasn't convinced everyone.

"Of course I know about the migrating spiders hypothesis - it's pure nonsense. It's an old story and also a stupid
story," says Pinotti.

He disputes the spider theory because of the chemical analysis of the "angel hair" samples. Spider silk is a
protein - an organic compound containing nitrogen, calcium, hydrogen and oxygen - not the elements
reportedly found in the samples Batini and others brought to the university.



The witnesses reunite at Stadio Artemi Franchi: Ardico Magnini, Gigi Boni, Ronaldo Lomi and Romolo Tuci Players
Ardico Magnini, Ronaldo Lomi and Romolo Tuci with their fan Gigi Boni (second left), at the ground



Sixty years on, the chances of determining the cause of the incident are slim. "I wouldn't trust any reports of an
old and strange event like this unless I'd seen the data," says science writer Philip Ball. He agrees that the
elements said to have been observed in the "angel hair" don't seem to tally with the spider theory.

"Magnesium and calcium are fairly common elements in living bodies, boron and silicon much less so - but if these
were the main elements that the white fluff contained, it doesn't sound to me as though they'd come from spiders," he says.

So it all remains a mystery. No matter what the scientists say, those who were there are convinced that what
they saw was unlike anything on earth.

Romolo Tuci just feels lucky to have been there. His eyes dance excitedly as he remembers that curious day.
"I was spell-bound and I was also so, so happy."

Video of spiders ballooning courtesy of Rob Ferber, Little Grove Farm

Additional research by Vibeke Venema

Listen again to the Mystery of the Fiorentina UFOs as featured on World Football on BBC World Service.

Subscribe to the BBC News Magazine's email newsletter to get articles sent to your inbox.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29342407


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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YJPrZWsz5TM

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UFO Files of the Italian Air Force

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7MTRqq8w008

Published on 16 Dec 2013
Dr. Roberto Pinotti.

For more information, visit http://www.SiriusDisclosure.com.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...597#post892597

[Cidersomerset]

After WW 11 in particular , especially after the atomic bomb explosions and the
beginning of the cold war , various ET groups started to visit earth worried that
as Stanton Friedman often says " The Kids have found the matches "

In Italy as elsewhere contacts and sightings were being reported, one case
was about a group of visitors based in Italy, I don't know if they were responcible
for the incident above, but is an intriguing case by itself....


1950's Human ETs Prepare Us For Golden Age

Human ETs visited Earth in the 1950s and told us Ascension would be attainable in
the near future, thanks to a natural cycle. Stunning new videos and documents
have emerged to make the case!




http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249110
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May 18, 2011

Entrance to alien base at Rocca Pia, Italy discovered as two aliens met with Italians, UFO Sighting News.


Meet Kenio. Through some analysys on the photo it was established that this "fellow" is over 2.4 meter tall...

oh, I forgot...he is an alien of the W56 group, also known as Akrij.









Entrance to alien base at Rocca Pia, Italy discovered as two aliens met with
Italians, UFO Sighting News. Aliens give message of HOPE, FRIENDSHIP and LOVE.




It had been kept secret for half a century, but only just recently came to light
after the death of one the men involved (Bruno Sammaciccia had asked for it to
be kept secret until after his death).



In Pescara, during the 50s to 70s, a group of extraterrestrials had contacted a
number of unsuspecting people directly. This project was called 'Amicizia.' These
men would be brought to their (etheric) 'bases' located on earth and apparently
on board the UFOs.

The people involved were of high social and cultural status, among them was the
notable Console Alberto Perego. This is a collection of testimonials from them,
which also shows excellent quality footage and photography of the phenomena,
as well as apparent 'messages' (of love and goodwill) given to us from these beings.
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This may just be coincidence, but Robert "Bob" Lazar, a scientist who worked on a
flying saucer in Area S4 had once stated that the USAF gave him reading info about
aliens and in the documents it stated there was 56 space faring species of aliens known.
That could explain why the aliens in Italy called themselves W56. However…the meaning
of the W has continued to elude me. (Scott C. Waring)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KpxJtVKhlSw

The story of “Friendship” -or simply “the story”, as we always called it- is a true one.
It involved a group of Italian and non-Italian people for many years, between 1956
and 1990. Some of these people, including myself, are still alive. We had direct,
face-to-face meetings with the Friends (also called W56), who are extraterrestrials
coming both from planets in our own Galaxy (at a distance of one hundred thousand
light years) and from other Galaxies. Here on the Earth they reached the maximum
number of two hundred, living inside underground and undersea bases, some of them
along the Adriatic coast, at a depth of about 20 km/12 miles. The first, “historical”
base was located under the area of Ascoli Piceno, a small town in central Italy.


The Friends are our elder brothers. They are human. Indeed, in comparison it’s we
terrestrials who are less than human. They are much more human than we are, and
that is why they do not show themselves. They are “too” human… For us it is easy
to flatter them, but envying them is even easier, due to their perfect humaneness…


The Friends are not the only extraterrestrials who have come to the Earth. Individuals
from various other populations are among us, because the Earth is a very particular
planet inside the economy of this part of the Universe. The aim of the Friends’ presence
is not to study us (they know us quite well, better than we do ourselves!), but to help us.
In fact, the Friends are unhappy about the very high level of hate, violence and injustice
on the Earth, and about the anti-humanistic trend of our science and technology. Being
able to see our thoughts and feelings, the Friends see what we hide behind our masks,
words and smiles…




Compared with all the other populations visiting the Earth, the Friends have a quite peculiar
and precious characteristic to offer us: they have a very special and close connection with
the subtle levels that regulate the destiny of the Earth and with what they call the Soul of
the Universe, beyond the physical or phenomenal level. Thus, the Friends have a sort of
general control over everything that occurs, but they are only allowed to intervene under
particular conditions. Everything happens as in an extremely elaborate chess game, with
rules that I cannot even touch upon here.



UREDDA -in one of the Friends’ languages- is the energy that is produced by the Love between
people, particularly between the Friends and our group, following a pact between them and us
and the many events that brought us together.


UREDDA is a kind of energy, but the Friends are not the worshippers of Energy, as other
populations are. The Friends follow Love, which is also the source of good energies such as
UREDDA, but is itself beyond any energy.

http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/201...rocca-pia.html

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...602#post892602

[Cidersomerset]

XCon 2005 - Charles Hall - The Tall Whites - ET Experiences in the Nevada Desert

With the controversy of all contactees I thought i'd put up a presentation by
Charles Hall as a young man in the US military he had personal contact with a
group of ET's known as Tall Whites and has a detailed story to tell.....He has done
many media interviews but seems a subject not talked about much, which i find
odd as they have a base on a US military facility Nellis airforce base area 53 & 54...

The Q & A at the end is more detailed than the presentation !!




This case is sitting there quitely in the background,I just looked on U/Tube and did
a quick check and did not see a debunking vid, but i expect there is somewhere !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1oY1OqVDUc8

Published on 6 Jul 2012 by LostArtsMedia


Visit http://www.X-Conference.com

THE TALL WHITES: ET EXPERIENCES IN THE NEVADA DESERT, with Charles James
Hall - Charles Hall was a weather observer in the United States Air Force during the
mid-sixties. He was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base and the Indian Springs
gunnery ranges outside Las Vegas, followed by a year in Viet Nam. After the
service, Charles married and earned a Masters degree in Nuclear Physics at San
Diego State University. He also did post graduate work at the University of Maine at
Bangor. Raising a family pushed memories of the terror and unprecedented
experiences on the Indian Springs gunnery ranges into the background, but they
couldn’t be forgotten. Charles began work writing his memoirs for his children and
grandchildren in his spare time. Eighteen years later, his wife Marie convinced him
to publish what eventually became the Millennial Hospitality series of three books.
Because of the nature of the material, it seemed prudent to change the names of
friends and places to protect the privacy of others. The Millennial Hospitality series
is an account of one man’s experiences with extraterrestrials in the Nevada desert
while in the service of the government.

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Theres alot of info and photos on this link...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...esp_hall02.htm

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A couple of more recent interviews ....


http://www.exopoliticsohio.us/CharlesHall.html

Charles Hall Interview on Ohio Exopolitics Radio
1.August 27, 2010 Charles Hall Millenial Hospitality

At the start of this interview Charles Wife gives her view about charles experiance
and shegave copies of his first three books to Pope Benidict.Who did acknowledge
receiving them via a secretary .....

Charles Hall, was a weather observer in the United States Air Force from 1965-1967
at Indian Springs Nevada. According to Charles, a large black titanium mother ship
would land at Dog Bone lake every two weeks near area 54 and then move into the
side of a mountain where the aliens were dug in.

Charles has written four books about his experiences in the Area 51-54 complex
during 1965-1967. Charles spoke and interacted with a group of individuals he calls
the tall whites the he believes are from a planet somewhere near the star
Arturus.

Tall Whites

Charles describes his time at Indian Springs and his experience with the Tall
Whites. Charles was stationed on the edge of Las Vegas north of Indian Springs
Nevada which is across the mountains from area 51. There is an alien base near
Indian Springs if you look straight north the mountains at the far end of the valley
then you will see the area near the base. Charles would get up at 3 am and take
weather measurements like wind speed.

Charles Hall claims to have witnessed and interacted with a race of extraterrestrials
he described as 'tall whites' while serving at Nellis Airforce Base as a duty weather
observer from 1965-67. In his four volume memoirs, Millennial Hospitality, he
claims that the experiences were real and that the US Air Force were indeed
hosting extraterrestrials they had reached agreements with. The tall whites are
humanoid in appearance



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February 2012
Discussion with Charles Hall
(MP3 Audio Archive: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 of 3)
http://www.ncrising.com/vibrational_voyage.html


Charles James Hall, author of Millennial Hospitality, talks with me about his
personal interactions with humanoid extra-terrestrial beings that are known as the
Tall Whites. Charlie has a master's degree in nuclear physics. He is a keen observer
and has some highly insightful theories about gravity, energy fields, and faster than
light propulsion based on his own direct observations of the technology possessed
and used by the Tall Whites. In the first part of the interview Charlie's wife, Marie,
introduces him and talks about her impressions of Charlie's extraordinary
experiences. Charlie talks about his interactions and experiences with three distinct
extra-terrestrial groups (Tall Whites, Norweigan, and Greys). Charlie also shares his
observations about the energy fields apparent in power and propulsion systems
used by the Tall Whites. Charlie talks at length about the experience of having daily
interactions with extra-terrestrial beings. In part 3, Charlie describes what he
knows about the documented explanation for the sequence of events composing
the July 1947 Roswell Incident -- he provides an explanation unlike anything I've
ever heard before. In the closing minutes, Charlie talks about Mt. Charleston (near
Las Vegas) as a place where you can safely go to observe and perhaps even
interact with the Tall Whites. You can get more information about Charlie's books at www.millennialhospitality.com

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click here for larger image...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...sp_hall02d.htm

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At any rate, if Arcturus or something close to Arcturus may be significant in
connection with the activities of the Tall Whites, it would be well to review a little
basic information about this star.
Arcturus, the alpha star of the constellation Boötes, is the fourth brightest star in
the sky. A spectral type K1 star, an orange giant, Arcturus has ceased fusing
hydrogen in its core. With 1.5 times the mass of our Sun, it releases 215 times
more radiation, a considerable portion of which is in the infrared.

Boötes is one of the oldest defined constellations, having been mentioned in
Homer’s The Odyssey. This constellation has figured in other contact cases.

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The Bootes is also where the Illuminatti say the Booteans who created us by
changing a existing earth hominoid Cro Magnon come from.............
Which i have posted in several places and deffinately worth a place in the UFO
library in you brain...LOL...

What the Illuminati Know about ET's & Human evolution.....



This video presentation is from the 1999 UFOCON conference.....
A young looking 77yr old Bob presents from illuminati documentation....

A must watch to add to your education imho ...steve...

These are MP4 vids....

http://fivebodied.com/archives/audio...on--Part_1.mp4


Part 2 he explains Decell water.......

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...uman-evolution

It explains a great deal , he has had close contact with Marshall Mc Cune and
Walter Bowart......

Bobs Timeline...If the above links are not working for some reason. Click on below
link and scroll down to 1999 UFOCON ....

http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/a...bTimeline.html



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https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...469#post558469

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Cider for posting the video of Jessie - what a wonderful woman to stand
by what she saw and not pretend it didn't happen. I wonder if they were Nordics or
Plejaren or another race that she saw?

Hi Becky I first saw this clip on Arthur C Clarks Mysterious world
back in early 1980's and she seemed credible then and now imo.
The craft she saw is of the basic generic saucer shape and is
used by many visitors it seems.....


Meier took a number of photos of Asket's, and her people's, UFOs over the Ashoka
Ashram, in the mid 1960's,using an old Kodak bellows type (folding) camera, which
he later sold in Kurdistan:




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Billy Meier

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...23-Billy-Meier

Billy Meier and Ptaah (ET) talking about 2012....Contact 476 3/2/2009

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...060#post548060

[Cidersomerset]

Re: FADE TO BLACK Jimmy Church interviews James Fox (to dislose Spielberg letter): also Ruwa UFO incident

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...050#post954050


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Ariel School UFO Sighting in Ruwa, Zimbabwe – September 1994

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IrM93GnmY4M

Published on 29 Jul 2014


On the morning of September 16, 1994, teachers and school officials at the Ariel School
in Ruwa, Zimbabwe were amazed when the school’s students, aged approximately 5 to
12 years old, reported that a flying object had landed on the school grounds.

The teachers at the school were in a meeting, so the 62 children were basically
unsupervised while in the schoolyard on morning recess. The only available adult seems
to have been one of the mothers, who was operating the school tuck shop – a sort of
snack bar where candy, snacks and sodas are sold.

According to some sources, UFOs had been seen in the skies over Zimbabwe for two
days before the incident occurred. Ruwa is about 20 kilometers from Harare, the capitol
of Zimbabwe. Ariel School is a private elementary school with students of mixed ethnic
heritage.

For more information on Ruwa Incident, please visit our headquarters at: www.sacseti.co.za


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Randall Nickerson Ruwa, Zimbabwe Africa UFO Encounter

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iBxSzmHEnj8

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...050#post954050

[Bluegreen]

Thank you Cidersomerset for posting a wealth of information in one place
Click on the following from The International Business Times from ten days ago
At your own risk
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/alien-life-...rnment-1510463
(Paraphrasing) "German Government To Reveal Secret UFO Documents"

[Cidersomerset]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/alien-life-...rnment-1510463
(Paraphrasing) "German Government To Reveal Secret UFO Documents"

Thanks Bluegreen , I have not heard about this , though I'm not
holding my breath they will actually disclose the real X files.
The UK has not , though there were a few good cases like
the Milton Torres case.......



Could German UFO files finally reveal whether aliens have visited Earth Court forces gov to release

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CyiqVwBixV8

Could German UFO files finally reveal whether aliens have visited Earth?
Court forces government to release top secret documents
Existence of the UFO-related files was disputed as recently as 2008
UFO enthusiasts have pushed for their release, resulting in a legal battle
The German Supreme Administrative Court in Leipzig has ordered the
Bundestag to make the UFO files available, but no date has been confirmed
Move has been welcomed by UFO researchers, but some fear they
may not be as exciting as hoped

By Sarah Griffiths for MailOnline

Published: 17:23, 9 July 2015 | Updated: 19:43, 9 July 2015


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz3gl4Goxrp
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