Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Roisin]

In this thread, I indicated after only 3 days after the disappearance of this flight that it will never be found.... that based on an inner vision I had. Then I had another inner vision about it a week later and it indicated the same thing.

Now, over a year later, this plane has still not been found. That there is no debris or anything washing up on the shores is a strong indication that they will never find this plane or know what really happened to it.

Below is my post in this thread 3 days after this plane went missing where I am describing an inner vision about that flight saying that it flew into a tunnel/vortex:

"I had an inner vision during my morning meditation session today. But just before I started that session, I asked what happened to that plane. Well, I got lucky because while I was meditating, an inner eye scene popped in where I was sitting in a plane where the pilots were up front in an open cockpit so I could see what they were seeing out of the planes' windshield.
What I saw:
So I'm sitting in this plane as we are approaching a very tall brick wall. It was so tall, I couldn't even see the top of it and it seemed to go on forever. Well, when we were face to face with that brick wall, the plane then shifted into flying in a vertical direction, like a helicopter, up the that wall so fast, it made me nauseous. Then the plane stopped flying UP and the wall opened up showing a tunnel where the plane then flew into it ... and into darkness. That was the end of that vision. "

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post807589

The tunnel/vortex in that vision turned out to be possibly a metaphor indicating that it will never be found.

[Flash]

Or that they truly flew into a vortex. Purposefully created or not (re the Bermuda triangle and the movie Close encounter of the third kind)

[Harley]

CNN Breaking News <BreakingNews@mail.cnn.com>
3:09 PM (4 minutes ago)

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Debris found in the Indian Ocean appears to be part of a Boeing 777, the type of airliner flown by Malaysia Airlines that disappeared in 2014, according to a source close to the investigation.

The source said there is a unique element to the Boeing 777's flaperon, a wing component, that observers believe they are seeing in photos.

The debris was found Wednesday off the coast of Reunion Island, a French department in the western Indian Ocean.

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[Harley]

From the blog of Xavier Tytleman, a former military pilot who now specialises in aviation security (Translated)

A do we found the first remains of the MH370?

Published on July 29, 2015 by Xavier



The day begins with an innocuous call for the Meeting. It was found on the beach of debris that resemble those of an airplane wing. Some pictures later, no certainty, except that it is indeed a plane piece (asymmetry above / below). Too rounded, not deep enough, the room however not like the wing of a modern airliner or a leisure tourist plane.



AvGeek The team then launched research. This is a closed forum in which pilots, enthusiasts and aviation specialists exchange out of sight, allowing to issue all assumptions ... ideas fuse and lead the most probable: the shutter box an airliner.



It remains to define which plane, and we get into comparing hundreds of photos of airliners. The missing element will come from a pilot friend, LustuCrew , who sent me the schematics of flaperons of the Boeing 777.



The similarity is incredible, "although the gap is seen for outboard actuator, the O ..." Here the little montage:



Would we found the first remains of the MH370, the Boeing 777 Malaysia Airlines in March 2014 diparu off Australia without a trace? The debris does not seem very degraded and gendarmes there think they might be immersed for about a year ...

Reference is also indicated on the debris: BB670. This code does not correspond to the registration of an airplane, or the serial number of a device. By cons, if it belongs to the flaperon MH370, then it is clear that this reference will be identified quickly. In a few days we will have a definitive answer.

Further to several messages on Twitter that found debris in the Meeting does not mean that the MH370 has been so far. By spoiling off Australia, its remains have simply been swept away by the current, and fail at this place after a year ...

Image Credit:

Ouissem Gombra / Imaz Press
Yannick Pitou / RTL Meeting

[Rocky_Shorz]

that is less than 1500 miles from diego garcia...

ocean current map



Location of Diego Garcia

[Harley]

Well it took them a little longer than I thought (see my post HERE):

[Snip]

But I wouldn't worry about it too much now because I expect that soon they will find the wreckage in the vicinity of the search area. Especially if something did go wrong, they probably can't afford NOT to find it where they are looking.

Wait until things cool down sufficiently and then, with some well-placed "evidence" and some "experts" to confirm it, close the case.

Sure there will still be some dissenters out there for awhile. But in-time most will all fade away, and those left will simply be categorized as a Conspiracy Theorist.

(Ref: 911)

They've been using this same system for many years and it still works quite well.

[Rocky_Shorz]

if you look at the currents, where they were searching would have pulled to the deepest part of the sea swinging around southern Austrailia...

the only currents heading to Madagascar come from Diego Garcia and North... not east...

look at the fulford thread where I put everything together of what really happened in post 110

[Hervé]

From post # 912:

Posted by Hervé (here)

LOOK !






So, how did they managed to get this:



... with multiple eyewitnesses reporting of a low flying jet in the Maldives... North of Diego Garcia:

Kudahuvadhoo islanders spotted low-flying mystery aircraft in hours after MH370 disappearance

By Daniel Bosley | March 18th, 2014 |

With additional reporting by Ahmed Nazeer and Ahmed Rilwan

Residents of Kudahuvadhoo in Dhaal atoll have reported seeing a low flying aircraft heading in a south-easterly direction in the morning of March 8, prompting speculation that it could have been the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

“It was about 6:30am in the morning, I heard a loud noise and went out to see what it was,” Adam Saeed, a teacher at Kudahuvadhoo school, told Minivan News.
“I saw a flight flying very low and it had a red straight line in the middle of it. The flight was traveling north-west to south-east.”

While Saeed’s sighting has been corroborated by a number of witnesses, others remain skeptical that the aircraft could have been the missing jet, whilst aviation authorities maintain that they have no “credible” evidence to support the claims.

Police have confirmed they are looking into the reports without providing further comment.

Co-author of the original story Ahmed Naif explained that Haveeru had been receiving similar reports since March 9, but had been concerned about the credibility of the sightings.

“Later we were getting so many comments that we contacted the island and they said it was true,” explained Naif.

One islander, who identified himself as Hamzath, told Minivan News that had also seen a low-flying plane heading from north-west to south-east, though he remained wary of jumping to conclusions.

“People started talking about it when they realised that the flight that we saw had the same characteristics as of the missing plane,” he said. ”We are still not saying it is the same plane, we just wanted to report it just in case.”

Another witness – who wished to remain anonymous – confirmed a similar height and direction but did not see the plane’s colours, while another suggested that the reports had been exaggerated.

“A plane did fly near the island,” said the anonymous witness. “It wasn’t that big, as big as people say.”

“These days people will be out fishing every morning. Around thirty people would always be there in the morning – but no one talked about it then. If it was that noticeable, loud and big, people would talk.”

See these posts as well: post # 1144, post # 1154...

[Rocky_Shorz]

flight MH370 was seen landing north of Diego GarCIA on one of the Maldive Islands...

here it is again...

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Remote pilots flying the plane as a drone, engine or onboard fire, wounded plane searching for the closest private airport...

They had one small landing strip... the natives heard the low flying plane...




that landing strip is the Island below the green dot where an airplane engine fire extinguisher tank washed up to shore... how wounded was this plane?



the bottom black line on the flight path is the island




to give this a reason for a closer look, after the fire tank was found, an official story was noticed...

The Maldives where flight MH370 was seen 8 mar 2014 615 am not picked up by Radar – National Defense Force or Kadhdhoo Airport
March 29, 2014
tags: flight 173 mH 370 maldives 615 am 8 mar 2014 INMARSAT satellite data jacksons intl airport flight 55093 N13979 Google Maps, flight MH370 pings maldives indian ocean hong kong gulf of guinea march 2014 flight 173, maldives mar 8 2014 flight 173 and flight Mh370 Kadhdhoo Airport no Radar - pings INMARSAT SATELLITE with ACAS, N13979 Google Maps (1), no Radar flight Mh370 Kadhdhoo Airport eyewitness 8 mar 2014 615 am lands 620 am defense military technology Google Maps (2), The Maldives where flight MH370 was seen 8 mar 2014 615 am not picked up by Radar - National Defense Force or Kadhdhoo Airport

link

and yes you read that right...

seen 6:15

Lands 6:20...

[/QUOTE]


was it destroyed and tossed in the sea? or just a hunk of it...

where did all the people go?

Corey might say, the Mars slave manufacturing facility...

[noxon medem]

..
- Interesting developement ..
There was reports of "strange/technical equipment"
( was/is here on this forum archives on/about that incident )
washed up on shores in that area shortly after the "crash"
( in unknown waters or territories ..).
- so far .. ( and beyond ! )

Anyone remember something about this ?
( I have other things needed to use my mind for )
- these days , and more .. ( mm )

Here are some recent links to european media about it :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...es-flight.html

Fragments of a wing washed up in the French island of Reunion could be wreckage from Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, says aviation expert

http://www.clicanoo.re/484918-saint-...ysterieux.html
( original link in post, french language )


Be well, all .
nm

:- )

[Rocky_Shorz]

In my post before yours I put the info on where the fire extinguisher tank washed up on shore, I have never heard anything about electronics...

[regnak]

Debris found in the western Indian Ocean on Wednesday appears to be part of a Boeing 777, the same model as Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that disappeared in 2014, according to a source close to the investigation.

The source said there is a unique element to the Boeing 777's flaperon, a wing component, that Boeing observers believe they are seeing in photos.

The debris was found Wednesday off the coast of Reunion Island, a French department in the western Indian Ocean. It is being examined to determine whether it is connected to flight MH370, a member of the French air force in Reunion said Wednesday.


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/29/af...investigation/

[WhiteLove]

Posted by jonsnow (here)
Debris found in the western Indian Ocean on Wednesday appears to be part of a Boeing 777, the same model as Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that disappeared in 2014, according to a source close to the investigation.

The source said there is a unique element to the Boeing 777's flaperon, a wing component, that Boeing observers believe they are seeing in photos.

The debris was found Wednesday off the coast of Reunion Island, a French department in the western Indian Ocean. It is being examined to determine whether it is connected to flight MH370, a member of the French air force in Reunion said Wednesday.


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/29/af...investigation/

This could be the real thing or a deliberately planted part originating from the MH17. It is only when they find the complete wreckage that you can begin to draw some early conclusions and we are nowhere near yet.

The disappearances of MH370 and MH17 are full of mystery with multiple authorities not having put front radar evidence they have although they control the airspace there... For this reason, a proper investigation must have "foul play" as the main default lead - also because there are important local details in the scenarios that align perfectly to that theory.

[avid]

Thread title misleading as it is not proven. This type of reportage upsets families and friends of the missing, as they have had so many false 'finds' already. A relative stated this in a report on BBC2 this morning.

[Hervé]

Posted by jonsnow (here)
Debris found in the western Indian Ocean [...]

HI Jonsnow, I merged your thread (MH370 Found) with this pre-existing one...

... and debris are far from constituting a whole plane...

[Tesseract]

The modelling showed that debris plausibly could have drifted either east or west.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-3...laysia/6660846

[Hervé]

From: http://www.clicanoo.re/484918-saint-...ysterieux.html

Translation:

According to preliminary findings, it could possibly match the tail of an airliner. A hypothesis that remains to be confirmed for the moment.

Furthermore, the presence of many shells indicates that this piece of airplane sojourned in the ocean for a long while.

Obviously, some observers quickly thought of the March 2014 disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines aircraft which wreck was never found.

Since March 2014, the Boeing 777, which was flying between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing, has not beenn found, despite the colossal means deployed. The aircraft crashed - allegedly- in southern Indian Ocean, about 2000 km northwest of Perth, Australia, after flying for several hours away from the planned route.

Another track: Piper Aztec that crashed off Pierrefonds 4 May 2006 and which wreckage was also never found. But the materials of this aircraft does not match, a priori, to what was found this morning in Saint-André.

Others put forward the idea that it would be a piece of the Yemenia A310 which crashed off Comoros in June 2009

An identification number
The identification number found on the wing piece will allow air transport gendarmes responsible for the investigation to determine what type of aircraft it is. Each part can in fact be identified. Investigators also confirm that the debris remained for a while in the water.

Whether this piece can come from an airliner, they prefer to remain cautious on this assumption for the moment.

The Gendarmerie Brigade of air transport (BGTA) said the tail piece was taken to Gillot, to be scrutinized and, above all, to determine its origin.

From: http://www.clicanoo.re/485058-la-pre...oeing-777.html

We were able to obtain the official maintenance manual of Boeing 777. Inside the piece found Wednesday morning at Bois Rouge there was a reference: 657 BB. In the manual Boeing 657 BB corresponds to a "Flaperon Leading Edge Panel" "Flaperon Actuator". Dimensions: 14x5. Drawing: 113W6110.

The piece found in Bois-Rouge therefore belongs to a Boeing 777. We bring the evidence. It remains to make the connection with the Boeing 777 200ER Malaysia Airlines. Keep in mind that the B777 200 ER is still reported missing in the Indian Ocean.

Alain Dupuis - Julien Delarue. Ludovic Lai Yu Photo

[araucaria]

The plane part was found to carry crustaceans but no algae, which is said to be consistent with the time supposedly spent in the water.

A suitcase was also found near the wing piece, badly damaged but reportedly not to the point of having spent that much time in the ocean.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/malay...de-l-aile.html

[syrwong]

The way of the Cabal is not only foretelling you in obscure ways what will happen, but also explain to you what has happened after their ploy succeeded. The explanation is no doubt what they want you to believe. Given enough suggestions and bombardment most people would believe it.
This wreckage is a piece of suggestion that it was no conspiracy, merely an unexplained act of plane dropping into the ocean.

[chancy]

Hello Everyone: How convenient to have a piece of a Boeing 777 just laying on a beach. Doesn't seem to correlate with all the work involved searching the oceans for this aircraft......
chancy

Link:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/authoritie...W4tQ0E-;_ylv=3


Article:
Indian Ocean debris almost certainly from Boeing 777
ReutersBy By Joe Brock | Reuters – 12 minutes ago July 30- 2015


French gendarmes and police inspect a large piece of plane debris which was found on the beach in Saint-Andre, on the French Indian Ocean island of La Reunion, July 29, 2015. REUTERS/Zinfos974/Prisca Bigot

Reuters/Reuters - French gendarmes and police inspect a large piece of plane debris which was found on the beach in Saint-Andre, on the French Indian Ocean island of La Reunion, July 29, 2015. REUTERS/Zinfos974/Prisca …more

SAINT-DENIS, Reunion (Reuters) - Plane debris washed up on the French island of Reunion in the Indian Ocean is almost certainly part of a Boeing 777, a Malaysian official and aviation experts said, potentially providing some answers for families of those aboard last year's vanished flight MH370.

Malaysian investigators are due in Reunion on Friday and the object, identified by numerous aviation experts as part of a wing, is then due to be sent to a French military laboratory near Toulouse for checks, French police sources said.

National carrier Malaysia Airlines was operating a Boeing 777 on the ill-fated flight, which disappeared in March last year en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in one of the most baffling mysteries in aviation history. It was carrying 239 passengers and crew.

The debris was found on Wednesday washed up on Reunion, a volcanic island of 850,000 people that is a full part of France known as an "overseas department", located in the Indian Ocean near Africa.

It is roughly 3,700 km (2,300 miles) away from the broad expanse of the southern Indian Ocean off Australia, where search efforts have focused, but Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said currents could have carried wreckage that way.

"The location is consistent with the drift analysis provided to the Malaysian investigation team, which showed a route from the southern Indian Ocean to Africa."

Aviation experts who have seen widely circulated pictures of the debris said it may be a moving wing surface known as a flaperon, situated close to the fuselage.

"It is almost certain that the flaperon is from a Boeing 777 aircraft. Our chief investigator here told me this," Malaysian Deputy Transport Minister Abdul Aziz Kaprawi told Reuters.

There have been four serious accidents involving 777s in the 20 years since the widebody jet came into service. Only MH370 is thought to have crashed south of the equator.

"No hypothesis can be ruled out, including that it would come from a Boeing 777," the Reunion prefecture and the French Justice Ministry said in a joint statement.

PART OF WING?

Australia's Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss said a number stamped on the 2 to 2.5 meters (6.5 to 8 foot) chunk of debris might speed up its verification.

"This kind of work is obviously going to take some time although the number may help to identify the aircraft parts, assuming that's what they are, much more quickly than might otherwise be the case," he said.

France 2 television showed a picture of the wing part with the figures "657 BB" stamped on its interior. That corresponds to a code in the 777 manual identifying it as a flaperon and telling workers to place it on the right wing, according to a copy of a Boeing document that appeared on aviation websites.

A source close to the French investigation said the plan was to transfer the wing flap to France's European mainland, along with a fragment of luggage that had also been found in the area.

"We’re trying to get the debris of wing and the bag fragment sent off as soon as possible, if possible Friday, arriving probably on Saturday," said the source. The wing part would be sent to a military unit near Toulouse, while the luggage fragment may go to a police unit specialized in DNA tests.

Investigators believe someone may have deliberately switched off MH370's transponder before diverting it thousands of miles off course. Most of the passengers were Chinese. Beijing said it was following developments closely.

For the families of those on board, lingering uncertainty surrounding the fate of the plane has been agony. Some said the discovery of debris would still not solve the mystery.

"Even if we find out that this piece of debris belongs to MH370, there is no way to prove that our people were with that plane," said Jiang Hui, 41, whose father was on the flight.

Ghyslain Wattrelos, a French businessman whose wife and two children were on the missing flight, told French BFMTV the discovery of the debris had been "extremely painful".

"This doesn't give hope, this is a moment I have been fearing," he said. "As long as there wasn't any evidence of a crash, of wounded, of dead or whatever, there was a little glimmer of hope for us."

Zhang Qihuai, a lawyer representing some of the passengers' families, said a group of around 30 relatives had agreed they would proceed with a lawsuit against the airline if the debris was confirmed to be from MH370.

Daniel Rose, a partner at Kreindler & Kreindler LLP in New York, which is representing more than 50 victims' families, said the discovery is unlikely to trigger a wave of lawsuits.

Families are pursuing a settlement with insurer Allianz through Kreindler, he said, but the firm could sue before a two-year statute of limitations under the Montreal Convention, which governs such accidents, expires in March 2016.

Families want to sue in more favorable U.S. courts, a move that for most families would require arguing that an aircraft fault was at least partly to blame for the crash, he said.

"They're specifically not looking to have to file in China," Rose said. "They're much more interested in getting answers and the best place to do that is in the U.S."

One expert in psychology said the discovery could also give families a chance to grieve at last.

"If this is indeed debris from the jet, then it will provide families with much needed closure," said Nancy Smyth, dean of the University at Buffalo School of Social Work.

OCEAN CURRENTS

According to photographs, the piece of debris is fairly intact and with no burn marks or signs of impact. Flaperons help pilots control an aircraft while in flight. Boeing Co declined to comment on the photos.

Oceanographers said vast, rotating currents sweeping the southern Indian Ocean could have deposited wreckage from MH370 thousands of kilometers from where the plane is thought to have crashed.

If confirmed to be from MH370, experts will try to retrace the debris drift back to its source. But they caution that the discovery was unlikely to provide any more precise information about the aircraft's final resting place.

"This wreckage has been in the water - if it is MH370 - for well over a year so it could have moved so far that it's not going to be that helpful in pinpointing precisely where the aircraft is," Australia's Truss told reporters.

Robin Robertson, an oceanographer at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, said the timing and location of the debris made it "very plausible" that it came from MH370, given what was known about Indian Ocean currents.