Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

[Callista]

Here is a recent interview conducted by Ethann Fox with Simon Parkes. For those who have listened to Simon before, much of the interview will simply build on that knowledge.

Interestingly, Ethann asks Simon about the Blue Avians and the answer starts at the 1 hour 54 minute mark:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=A8tZC9YDm5Q

Enjoy!

much love
Callista

[idiit]

^^simon makes valid points re false memories imo.

harald kautz in his videos explains how the false memories are in fact formed in ppl.

coorey and wilcock readily admit that they need independent confirmation from other whistleblowers re the blue avian/ssp stuff.

Alfred Webre ( simon parke's cited aw in his blue avian comments) and tolec from Andromeda council have distanced themselves for now from the blue avian/ssp information.

lilly ( a member of a group discussion on ai at the following linked video) states starting at the 1:30 marked beginning of her 8 minutes of initial intro and comments that from her reading of earth's akashic records and/or her direct communication with gaia that the blue avians are ai controlled. kautz has affirmed that members of his group have established direct communication lines with gaia in one of his 4 black goo videos. kautz has not yet affirmed to my knowledge that the blue avians are ai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50kE55EvRw8

there is no valid independent confirmation from trusted sources that the blue avians are as corey reports.

corey is self admittedly a milab trauma victim.

corey has obviously damaged his believability factor with many members here at projectavalon.

there are a lot of ad hominen attacks against corey here at projectavalon; perhaps very much deserved by the posts here.

I still have an open minded, wait and see attitude. most here have apparently seen enough.

[Hervé]

Re-post from here:

Posted by Hervé (here)
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Memories... true... false/screen... and invented/induced (dubbed-in):


People can be convinced they committed a crime that never happened

Date: January 15, 2015
Source:Association for Psychological Science

Summary:

Innocent adult participants can be convinced, over the course of a few hours, that they had perpetrated crimes as serious as assault with a weapon in their teenage years. This research indicates that the participants came to internalize the stories they were told, providing rich and detailed descriptions of events that never actually took place.

"Our findings show that false memories of committing crime with police contact can be surprisingly easy to generate, and can have all the same kinds of complex details as real memories," says psychological scientist and lead researcher Julia Shaw of the University of Bedfordshire in the UK.

Evidence from some wrongful-conviction cases suggests that suspects can be questioned in ways that lead them to falsely believe in and confess to committing crimes they didn't actually commit. New research provides lab-based evidence for this phenomenon, showing that innocent adult participants can be convinced, over the course of a few hours, that they had perpetrated crimes as serious as assault with a weapon in their teenage years.

The research, published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science, indicates that the participants came to internalize the stories they were told, providing rich and detailed descriptions of events that never actually took place.

"Our findings show that false memories of committing crime with police contact can be surprisingly easy to generate, and can have all the same kinds of complex details as real memories," says psychological scientist and lead researcher Julia Shaw of the University of Bedfordshire in the UK.

"All participants need to generate a richly detailed false memory is 3 hours in a friendly interview environment, where the interviewer introduces a few wrong details and uses poor memory-retrieval techniques."

Shaw and co-author Stephen Porter of the University of British Columbia in Canada obtained permission to contact the primary caregivers of university students participating in the study. The caregivers were asked to fill out a questionnaire about specific events the students might have experienced from ages 11 to 14, providing as much detail as possible. The caregivers were instructed not to discuss the questions with the student.

The researchers identified a total of 60 students who had not been involved in any of the crimes designated as false memory targets in the study and who otherwise met the study criteria. These students were brought to the lab for three 40-minute interviews that took place about a week apart.

In the first interview, the researcher told the student about two events he or she had experienced as a teen, only one of which actually happened. For some, the false event related to a crime that resulted in contact with the police (assault, assault with a weapon, or theft). For others, the false event was emotional in nature, such as personal injury, attack by a dog, or loss of a huge sum of money.

Importantly, the false event stories included some true details about that time in the student's life, taken from the caregiver questionnaire.

Participants were asked to explain what happened in each of the two events. When they had difficulty explaining the false event, the interviewer encouraged them to try anyway, explaining that if they used specific memory strategies they might be able to recall more details.

In the second and third interviews, the researchers again asked the students to recall as much as they could about both the true and false event. The students also described certain features of each memory, such as how vivid it was and how confident they were about it.

The results were truly surprising.

Of the 30 participants who were told they had committed a crime as a teenager, 21 (71%) were classified as having developed a false memory of the crime; of the 20 who were told about an assault of some kind (with or without a weapon), 11 reported elaborate false memory details of their exact dealings with the police.

A similar proportion of students (76.67%) formed false memories of the emotional event they were told about.

Intriguingly, the criminal false events seemed to be just as believable as the emotional ones. Students tended to provide the same number of details, and reported similar levels of confidence, vividness, and sensory detail for the two types of event.

Shaw and Porter speculate that incorporating true details, such as the name of an actual friend, into an account that was supposedly corroborated by the student's caregiver likely endowed the false event with just enough familiarity that it came to seem plausible.

"In such circumstances, inherently fallible and reconstructive memory processes can quite readily generate false recollections with astonishing realism," says Shaw. "In these sessions we had some participants recalling incredibly vivid details and re-enacting crimes they never committed."

There were, however, some differences between the students' memories for false events and their memories for true events. For example, they reported more details for true events and they reported more confidence in their descriptions of the true memories.

The fact that the students appeared to internalize the false events to the extent that they did, highlights the fundamental malleability of memory:

"This research speaks to the distinct possibility that most of us are likely able to generate rich false memories of emotional and criminal events," says Shaw.

The findings have clear implications for criminal interrogation and other aspects of legal procedure, affecting suspects, witnesses, and those involved in both law enforcement and legal counsel. But they may also apply to interviews that take place in various other contexts, including therapeutic or even personal settings.

"Understanding that these complex false memories exist, and that 'normal' individuals can be led to generate them quite easily, is the first step in preventing them from happening," says Shaw. "By empirically demonstrating the harm 'bad' interview techniques -- those which are known to cause false memories -- can cause, we can more readily convince interviewers to avoid them and to use 'good' techniques instead."

Investigating the specific characteristics of interviewers and interview tactics that contribute to false memories can help improve interviewing procedure and minimize the risk of inducing false memories, the researchers conclude.

Story Source:
The above story is based on materials provided by Association for Psychological Science. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.

Journal Reference:

• J. Shaw, S. Porter. Constructing Rich False Memories of Committing Crime. Psychological Science, 2015; DOI: 10.1177/0956797614562862

[Truglivartna]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Re-post from here:

Posted by Hervé (here)
...

Memories... true... false/screen... and invented/induced (dubbed-in):

People can be convinced they committed a crime that never happened

Date: January 15, 2015
Source:Association for Psychological Science

Summary:

Innocent adult participants can be convinced, over the course of a few hours, that they had perpetrated crimes as serious as assault with a weapon in their teenage years. This research indicates that the participants came to internalize the stories they were told, providing rich and detailed descriptions of events that never actually took place.

[...]

If you listen to the interview with Simon, he does not even imply the message presented here in this thread, ie Blue Avians? No! What he does say is that he simply is not aware of the Blue Avians as an ET race. That is a totally different ball game than the statement made in the thread.

[Hervé]

Imagine... that if someone can come out of a non-leading/suggestive interview believing they committed a crime with police intervention that never happened... what of Corey's stories...

[Meggings]

Thank you, Herve, for sharing this important information. This is how we are brain-washed by media into accepting untruths. This is how we come to think of ourselves as limited and weak, and not as powerful and strong. This is how verbal abuse occurs within relationships.

When we SEE and UNDERSTAND this mechanism, we can be alert and aware to manipulation. This study gives us vastly important and far-reaching insights into ourselves. I hope many read your post and contemplate it.

participants came to internalize the stories they were told
Importantly, the false event stories included some true details
Participants were asked to explain what happened in each of the two events. When they had difficulty explaining the false event, the interviewer encouraged them to try anyway
memory processes can quite readily generate false recollections with astonishing realism
'normal' individuals can be led to generate them quite easily
that [they] appear to internalize the false events...highlights the fundamental malleability of memory

[Callista]

Posted by Truglivartna (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)
Re-post from here:

Posted by Hervé (here)
...

Memories... true... false/screen... and invented/induced (dubbed-in):

People can be convinced they committed a crime that never happened

Date: January 15, 2015
Source:Association for Psychological Science

Summary:

Innocent adult participants can be convinced, over the course of a few hours, that they had perpetrated crimes as serious as assault with a weapon in their teenage years. This research indicates that the participants came to internalize the stories they were told, providing rich and detailed descriptions of events that never actually took place.

[...]

If you listen to the interview with Simon, he does not even imply the message presented here in this thread, ie Blue Avians? No! What he does say is that he simply is not aware of the Blue Avians as an ET race. That is a totally different ball game than the statement made in the thread.

If you listen at 1:56:33

[Agape]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Imagine... that if someone can come out of a non-leading/suggestive interview believing they committed a crime with police intervention that never happened... what of Corey's stories...

On side note Herve :

psychologists happen to be one of the most 'illusion affected' part of populace , quite a bit like magicians because they're always in the 'front' of the 'mind theory' ( at least so they're told and convinced at school ) and officially 'permitted' to analyse and stamp peoples thinking , feelings and behaviour .
Like many other professionals they're often affected by the 'disease' they treat . Convictions about 'mind' and 'mind functions' can be one of them ,
and more .. once they're involved in testing of this kind : a 'mind game' really,

they're vulnerable to their own 'certainty bias' there as well .

In extreme ( meant in jest ) you might ask , do they really remember conducting this study and did they

Was it a good one and who says ( )

I don't mean to sound ridiculous here .. it's rather serious . The imprints of the experiment will stay in the teenagers mind till the end of their life
no matter they're told later it was just a false memory experiment .

It's a bit like raping their mind with their own ( innocent ) consent .

But once you get convinced ( give mental consent ) to someone telling you things about you that you actually don't remember ( Fact 0-1, for start, they had zero memory of committing a crime at the beginning ) you're prone to all sorts of mental manipulation and disease .

I'd object this is conclusive study altogether and I've noticed couple of them popping up this spring , on screen memories .

In my own opinion, the trend now is to 'demoralise' human mind from deep within, shatter the roots that had been already withered many times or show at least 'they can' .It's a scientific trend ( so called ) , similar to the assertion that human being really is not more than an animal whose moral sense is questionable under most circumstances .

It's popular with some people ..but not everyone, even in science will ever agree to it.

And that's just it . No matter whether you're child or an adult ,

there's small percentage of populace who are pathological liars and bigger one who have weak ( developing ) moral grounds .
There are people on both sides of the Gauss scale in all matters, such as memory, IQ or EQ .
Your analytical logical intelligence , emotional state and experience and factual memory function , all play a role here .

But no way all ( maybe not even a majority ) can be convinced of something they never experienced .



The thing is ... our statements here are about as 'reliable' as the other , whether it concerns Simon, Corey or I .

Your opinion is being evolved by good media looks , number of great interviews and signs of success ,
that much for our vulnerability in common....

[TrumanCash]

IMO, I am a bit suspicious of that false memory psychological experiment. I do not think that many people are that gullible when it comes to their own conscious memories. It might be interesting to examine the details of the experiment but it does appear that it was a leading/suggestive interview, otherwise why would anyone--even a gullible college student--fabricate a false memory if not somehow lead to do it. This does not make sense to me.

However, MK Ultra-style mind control--the kind that black ops, secret government projects, CIA, etc, employs--uses unconsciousness to implant false memories in the subject, not fabricating false memories consciously.

After having met three individuals who were programmed while in an unconscious state using MK Ultra-style techniques, it is not a stretch for me to understand that individuals in a "secret space program" would be routinely mind controlled. Others in the ET/UFO field have reported being hypnotized or otherwise brainwashed, threatened at gunpoint and/or received threats to kill their families. This seems to be routine procedure. I myself was threatened to keep my mouth shut in a deep underground military/Grays base. Some people (like me) are not so easily programmed or silenced. LOL!

QUESTION AUTHORITY!

TLC

[Hervé]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
IMO, I am a bit suspicious of that false memory psychological experiment. I do not think that many people are that gullible when it comes to their own conscious memories. [...]

In other terminologies, it's called "Dub-in"... and I agree, it's a conundrum to distinguish a real memory from a dubbed-in one.

why would anyone--even a gullible college student--fabricate a false memory if not somehow lead to do it.

... if they are already a run-of-the-mill student who's already in an hypnotic trance state... and just told a story... they make that story very real just by the questioning. Just like that toilet which needs flushing because... well... just: BECAUSE!

[Shantsai]

If you read this carefully, you will see that the summary does not correspond to the story below it. The story says that students could remember details of narratives they knew to be false, and that these false memories could be classified as true according to a classification system which is not disclosed in this article. The article NEVER SAYS that the subjects believed the false narratives to be true. The researcher is quoted as following: 'This research speaks to the distinct possibility that most of us are likely able to generate rich false memories of emotional and criminal events," says Shaw.' However, this is very, very much different from what the summary claims, which is that the research subjects believed that they had committed crimes.

The summary is a distortion of what the research actually established, which was simply that people could remember false narratives as well as true ones.

Perhaps false memories can be induced, but I don't think this particular paper describes how it is done, and I think it's deceptive to have a summary that's different than the contents of the paper. I think this study was probably funded by "False Memory Syndrome" type pedophile protectors.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)

However, MK Ultra-style mind control--the kind that black ops, secret government projects, CIA, etc, employs--uses unconsciousness to implant false memories in the subject, not fabricating false memories consciously.

After having met three individuals who were programmed while in an unconscious state using MK Ultra-style techniques, it is not a stretch for me to understand that individuals in a "secret space program" would be routinely mind controlled.

Area 51 whistleblower Bob Lazar famously left his job there after realizing that he'd arrived back at Las Vegas on the regular evening shuttle flight from the base — and couldn't remember a thing about what he'd done that day. He went straight round to John Lear's house, and told him what had happened. The rest is history, as they say.

Also famously, none of the Apollo astronauts can actually remember being on the moon. It's all a blank. Even Edgar Mitchell has admitted this.

If memories can be overlaid with a 'blank' (which is how it works... like placing a blank sheet of paper over something with writing on it, so that the original can no longer be seen) — they can also be overlaid with a SUBSTITUTE. This is very old, fairly simple technology (even stage hypnotists can do this!), and it's been in place since the early 1950s or very probably long before.

[Hervé]

Posted by Shantsai (here)
[...]
... people could remember false narratives as well as true ones.

The key word: "remember"!

[Billy]

Posted by Truglivartna (here)

If you listen to the interview with Simon, he does not even imply the message presented here in this thread, ie Blue Avians? No! What he does say is that he simply is not aware of the Blue Avians as an ET race. That is a totally different ball game than the statement made in the thread.

After i listened to Simon at the 1.56.33 mark. What he actually says after mentioning implanted memories, and how one could pass a lie detector test with implanted memories is. Blue Avian's "Never" Meaning, at no time; not ever; certainly not; never has been, is not now and never will be. I think that is a Then he finished with "I've got no knowledge of them"

[kirolak]

I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

[Elainie]

I do not believe in Corey Goode's tales- however this woman claims to have contact with big blue bird race. I have her book (have not read it yet) but this is way before Corey even heard the word UFO (LOL).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fwAl3vm8GT0

[Elainie]

Forgot to mention she is also into the bible/Jesus etc; http://www.thelightside.org/EARSite/ears.html

Perhaps (keeping my mind open here) there are certain people that are heavily into the bible that are being targeted by blue bird contacts- whether real or projected/mind control.

[Wide-Eyed]

In the video posted in forum under thread I think(I forget!) " 11/2 Bob Lazar interview at 2015. Int ufo conf." he says he left job at 51 for reasons his wife was having an affair and his phones were tapped with consent and that they (Lazar's group)were caught viewing Weds night flights of advanced craft. Not sure the mark in the interview with George Knapp that Lazar states reason for leaving Area 51 and job there.

[Star Tsar]

Posted by kirolak (here)
I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

A good ole brainwashing will do that to ya!
I believe it was Neil Armstrong at the press conference after their "return to earth" he is asked a question (which I dont remember right now) and his answer is I cannot remember!

[Agape]

Posted by Billy (here)

Posted by Truglivartna (here)

If you listen to the interview with Simon, he does not even imply the message presented here in this thread, ie Blue Avians? No! What he does say is that he simply is not aware of the Blue Avians as an ET race. That is a totally different ball game than the statement made in the thread.

After i listened to Simon at the 1.56.33 mark. What he actually says after mentioning implanted memories, and how one could pass a lie detector test with implanted memories is. Blue Avian's "Never" Meaning, at no time; not ever; certainly not; never has been, is not now and never will be. I think that is a Then he finished with "I've got no knowledge of them"

Ok I will say something here in open , I've already hinted couple of times , mostly in private but it's no way intended to defame Simon or compare him to Corey

( they are each on very different floor where credibility is concerned , perhaps .. entirely different buildings too ).

But I will say this much . Where from do you think Simon got the term "Mantids'' , in this specific context .
It's a term that's been widely used and popularised on internet , together with other peoples claims of 'insectoid ETs' or their close resemblance to such .

Further on, Simons 'career' in the disclosure field fired off after several successful regression sessions with Joanne Summerscales who was later parted with .. in socially not well acceptable manner ( if i may ) ,
but obviously ... her sessions were still 'precious' and source of 'warrantied memories' .


I've practised regression therapy with some of my meditation students who were so curious about it and trusted my guidance .. that was far beyond the concept of such regressions itself .
I was not a proponent of such .. for many reasons, unless those were somehow solicited ..and all of my students were well informed ,
on the topic of false memories and it was my assertion to them that mind is creative and 99% of things people recall during such sessions are work of imagination.

This is different with 'abduction cases' , in particular as it would be with Apollo astronauts if they wanted the flash of acute memory that can be achieved through such regression .
But while you are in such subliminal state there's always 'more' coming out .

It's fairly difficult to filter or say 'capture' the fluid of your intelligence and imagination there .

Regression therapy does not really equal medical hypnosis . Not all people can be hypnotised , either . Even then ..

What I wanted to say originally is yes I trust Simon on matters /experiences I think, we share in common ..
but I've seen deeper so I also know where he's not right . The term Mantids for example and them being 'insectoids' ( biologically ) is completely fabricated by some and borrowed by others.

The entities are humanoid : not human looking really but they're frail , of very frail built compared to human being .


The same misclassification occurs with so called 'reptilians' washed on all alternative media and them being egg born and having similar reproduction cycle to reptiles , ability to shape shift etc.
They share certain characteristics that remind you ( your brain : to be accurate ) of reptiles and so it ( your brain ) creates an image of reptilian looking entity ,
or a giant insect .
Brain re-assembles what you see using certain archetypal imagery convenient and learned by you earlier . Unless you are familiar with these beings and study them for long time ( in vivo so to say ) it's what you see,
your own ideas and imaginations. Little kids see hooded figures or ghosts , sometimes .
The imagery is really manifold .

Pity that the 'ufology research' really stopped at certain mile stones vis above and people keep passing their imaginations around as if they were real .


Maybe it sells well, I don't know . Sounds trustable because 'many other people think so too'.







Oh by the way , the same is valid for the term ''Blue Avians'' . It's another name for space beings of unknown origin, at this time ( where it concerns 'conscious and pronounced' humanity ) .
Of course they're real . And you can see them in many forms, it really depends a lot on your visualisation ability and specific imagery already stored in your memories .
But don't think for a moment that the name somehow describes who they are .

I know.. I forgot to say that.