Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

[Finefeather]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This is very old, fairly simple technology (even stage hypnotists can do this!), and it's been in place since the early 1950s or very probably long before.

Yes Bill this is indeed a fact...but it even goes a lot further because we can see this in people doing this to themselves by substituting events which never took place...and even conveniently forgetting things for their own reasons.

I have experienced a few people in my life that relate stories that never took place...despite them been very convinced that they did...and despite us knowing it did not….children are very prone to do this regularly as they discover the world.

Also, you can see this same idea when you visit the test of letting a number of people recall and present the same experience...there are often quite extreme differences which relates to the way each person's consciousness perceives the reality of the experience...

So we can see clearly where the old truth that 'we create our own reality' comes from... and whilst we are busy in our individual world which we create...the real reality just goes on normally...this also takes place in collectives or groups, like religion etc...their idealism and moralism becomes part of their reality...they become mind controlled by their belief.

There are a number of reasons why this happens...the most obvious and general been emotional or mental hangups…be it fear...or greed...or ego...or power...or just plain low self esteem...or simply a lie...etc.

In all forms of influence/mind control there is always the external source...doing the manipulation...and the inner mind of the subject been influences or controlled...and so depending on the consciousness level or wisdom of the person been influenced...so much will the success of the controller be.

The more advanced we become the less effect does 'unreality' have on the consciousness, because true reality becomes more easily realised.

There are people you just cannot hypnotize or mind control.

Take care
Ray

[Sunny-side-up]

I know that djinn are real entities!
I believe with all my heart that they exist to the best of my experience!
Simon himself confirmed after hearing my visual description of said entity which I encountered, and the description of the event that he thinks i did come face to face with a djinn!

Now this post and the subject, the subject of a 'Blue Avians' dose to me come over as a Phyop, mind-messiness, the whole subject of 'ET's', ED's etc,etc well which are real?
I believe some are but which?

The djinn are shape-sifter masters, master of illusion, master of mind control, masters of all that we think is our reality!

The djinn have us split and running around in ever decreasing and expanding circles Doh!
They have a great sense of humor ha! and are having i big laugh at our expense!
They have a great sense of humor, most of it being very much Black-humor though

I believe some ET's/ED's etc, etc are real but which?

You just have to use discernment and or take the plunge if the option arises

From Bill

If memories can be overlaid with a 'blank' (which is how it works... like placing a blank sheet of paper over something with writing on it, so that the original can no longer be seen) — they can also be overlaid with a SUBSTITUTE. This is very old, fairly simple technology (even stage hypnotists can do this!), and it's been in place since the early 1950s or very probably long before.

Yes we can do it and the djinn are masters of it. I have had Sightings and I have lost time events, found myself home without the walk etc? what is real

[Billy]

I attempt to keep my choices simple.

I choose to not believe anything Corey says.
I choose to not believe everything Simon says.

I do believe in time everything will come out in the wash. I am in no rush as by their fruits you shall know them. What goes around, comes around, Be careful not to become attached by feeding the beast.
Your love for humanity and Mother earth is what is important at this time. Continue seeking the truth, but not with confusion or anger in your hearts. It is the power of your love that brings into the light the deceptions and sets the truth free.

My thoughts.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by kirolak (here)

I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

Not offended at all! And you're right to be horrified. I've heard this from various sources over the years.

The most recent account was from Jay Weidner, on Art Bell's radio show on 4 August 2015 (just 10 days ago).

This audio clip is HIGHLY recommended listening, concerning the astronauts' loss of memory. The person talking first is Stanton Friedman, who was also a guest on the show:

http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...t_memories.mp3 (3 mins 20 seconds, 4 Mb)

Summary: Stanton Friedman asks whether Jay Weidner thinks the Apollo astronauts were lying. Weidner replies by saying:

• Buzz Aldrin, in a Las Vegas conference a year after returning from the moon (20 July 1970, the anniversary), was asked by a reporter "what it was really like on the moon". Aldrin immediately felt so nauseous, and suddenly had such a gigantic headache, that he could not speak, started shaking uncontrollably, and his wife had to help him leave the room. This is documented in Buzz Aldrin's own autobiography. Weidner compares that to a scene in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange, when apparently similar brainwashing methods were depicted in the film.

• Weidner then describes how he was told by a good personal friend, a very well-known professional hypnotherapist called Dr Robert Masters, that Edgar Mitchell had come to him asking to be hypnotized — because he "could not remember anything about the moon". Masters did indeed hypnotise him, but despite that, Mitchell STILL could not remember anything.

• Art Bell then confirms this, from an earlier radio show when Mitchell had told Bell on air that he could not remember much about the moon. Bell said that had "stopped him cold".

• Finally in this fascinating short clip, Weidner refers to the post-Apollo 11 press conference when all three astronauts were "looking as if their dog just died" (he stated this in an earlier segment of the program, not in this particular clip). He describes them as joyless and somber, with Neil Armstrong looking down most of the time... he recommends (as do I!) that people should actually watch this again. (It's here on Youtube.)

Again — please do listen: http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...t_memories.mp3

[Star Tsar]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)

Posted by kirolak (here)
I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

A good ole brainwashing will do that to ya!
I believe it was Neil Armstrong at the press conference after their "return to earth" he is asked a question (which I dont remember right now) and his answer is I cannot remember!

Ah right to be more precise the late great Patrick Moore asked about seeing stars and Neil answers with only being able to see through the optics and goes on to say he does not recall seeing stars and then Micheal Colins says he does not remember seeing any stars at all then Armstrong gives him a gentle STFU elbow!
So I guess I have to redact my brainwashin comment...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hh0y6xPZJhc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwPYl7a9Yuk

[mojo]

Bonnie Meyer a contactee in the 70s claims meeting the Captain of a large UFO craft that had a bird-like appearance , he was blue, tall 6 foot bi-pedal and bird like. The Blue Avians are not a recent phenomenon from the Corey GoodET testimony. Ancient petroglyphs depict bird like men and indigenous tribes of America have spoken about them. The Sargent Clifford Stone testimony mentions over 50 species identified from the U.S. crash retrieval program in the 70s.
Most agree there is a variety of life in the cosmos so we can't discount having bird-like ones.

In regards to the astronauts being mind controlled that sounds more scary. If tptb did that to them did the astronauts like Neil Armstrong go willingly along with the mind control program? Maybe what he found out on the moon visits was more frightening to him, that some astronauts viewed being brainwashed as better then knowing?

[Agape]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by kirolak (here)

I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

Not offended at all! And you're right to be horrified. I've heard this from various sources over the years.

The most recent account was from Jay Weidner, on Art Bell's radio show on 4 August 2015 (just 10 days ago).

This audio clip is HIGHLY recommended listening, concerning the astronauts' loss of memory. The person talking first is Stanton Friedman, who was also a guest on the show:

http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...t_memories.mp3 (3 mins 20 seconds, 4 Mb)

Summary: Stanton Friedman asks whether Jay Weidner thinks the Apollo astronauts were lying. Weidner replies by saying:

• Buzz Aldrin, in a Las Vegas conference a year after returning from the moon (20 July 1970, the anniversary), was asked by a reporter "what it was really like on the moon". Aldrin immediately felt so nauseous, and suddenly had such a gigantic headache, that he could not speak, started shaking uncontrollably, and his wife had to help him leave the room. This is documented in Buzz Aldrin's own autobiography. Weidner compares that to a scene in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange, when apparently similar brainwashing methods were depicted in the film.

• Weidner then describes how he was told by a good personal friend, a very well-known professional hypnotherapist called Dr Robert Masters, that Edgar Mitchell had come to him asking to be hypnotized — because he "could not remember anything about the moon". Masters did indeed hypnotise him, but despite that, Mitchell STILL could not remember anything.

• Art Bell then confirms this, from an earlier radio show when Mitchell had told Bell on air that he could not remember much about the moon. Bell said that had "stopped him cold".

• Finally in this fascinating short clip, Weidner refers to the post-Apollo 11 press conference when all three astronauts were "looking as if their dog just died" (he stated this in an earlier segment of the program, not in this particular clip). He describes them as joyless and somber, with Neil Armstrong looking down most of the time... he recommends (as do I!) that people should actually watch this again. (It's here on Youtube.)

Again — please do listen: http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...t_memories.mp3

He may have ( probably ) suffered from brain hypoxia , I'd consider that option real . Of course , for physically and mentally untrained person this can result in collapse to the ground
but if you're trained you keep walking . Pilots or mountaineers who access high altitudes frequently suffer from hypoxia and of course it can mean certain death if such a state lasts for more than few minutes,

depending on change in gravity , pressure, temperatures , can happen to you in hot shower ( when steam can't exit the room ) and there's not enough free oxygen in the air anymore .

They had enough oxygen yet , they've been through extreme change of pressures .

You literally lose consciousness : and have either 'heightened sense of perception' ( sometimes as if looking at yourself from outside , what people describe as OBE ) or blank consciousness to extreme .


For the rest .. I'm sure they remember some if not most of it but the beginning too feels 'blank' to me .

[Matthew]

Glad to hear Simons opinion about the blue avian stuff. Vatican connection is interesting.

My fav. of the moon landers, Buzz Aldrin was saying everyone should look at the monolith on Mars' moon Phobos and we should go there and look closer

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXvpjnRws

edit: I guess there is a vauge Mars connection to the thread. But I just love Buzz for this stuff

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Billy (here)
I attempt to keep my choices simple.

I choose to not believe anything Corey says.
I choose to not believe everything Simon says.

I do believe in time everything will come out in the wash. I am in no rush as by their fruits you shall know them. What goes around, comes around, Be careful not to become attached by feeding the beast.
Your love for humanity and Mother earth is what is important at this time. Continue seeking the truth, but not with confusion or anger in your hearts. It is the power of your love that brings into the light the deceptions and sets the truth free.

My thoughts.

Ditto to that post Billy. Yep I feel the same way. Not resonating well with the Corey info and his latest tag team partner, who i had admired for some time in D.W.

[Savannah]

Simon talks about treating Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) and creating that disorder in people seems to be a tactic that was popular in creating Millabs/ super solders etc. It was asserted by another (I forgot who) that AI and clones are easier than creating super soldiers and becoming the preferred method. I specialize in trauma therapy and have treated many cases of DID. DID does not develop in a person unless they are very young when exposed to the severe trauma. Technically, it is not that they don’t remember an event, it is that another personality doesn’t remember the event. With DID a person develops separate personalities, called alters. When one alter is in control of the body that alter remembers their day just like anyone else, but if another alter takes over the body their awareness stops, like going to sleep. The alter who is in control is now making his/her own memories. So someone with DID remembers everything, but the memories are held by separate alter parts. What Bill is referring to sounds more like AI or their using tech to wipe memories.

[Savannah]

I also wanted to comment about false memories. Much of the accusations about false memories were started in response to therapists who treated DID and used hypnosis to get the alters to present in session. Since DID is the result of trauma, adults began to recall severe sadistic sexual and physical abuse that resulted in parents being accused in courts and that’s why false memories made headlines. Therapists were accused of planting the memories. Since that time, late 70s therapist try not to/don’t use hypnosis and as predicted they get the same results. DID is a very interesting diagnosis and very controversial Dx. Many clinician’s say they don’t believe in it and say if it exists it is so rare they have not had a patient with that Dx. Being the good conspiracy theorist (paranoid for short) I can’t help but think this has been deliberately created in my profession. Clinicians have NO training in it and texts just give few lines to it and there is no info about treating it at the graduate level. Once you learn the basic it’s very easy to diagnosis and understand the personality structure. So again, I wonder if hey didn’t want us to discover and treat these people. Secondly the idea that a person can hold completely separate identities and memories hints at realty other than the black/white one they want us to buy into and that that’s enough reason to deny it exists.

[Hervé]

Posted by Savannah (here)
[...]
... So again, I wonder if hey didn’t want us to discover and treat these people. Secondly the idea that a person can hold completely separate identities and memories hints at realty other than the black/white one they want us to buy into and that that’s enough reason to deny it exists.

Hopefully, you've heard of the "Greenbaum Speech"?

[quiltinggrandma]

thank you so much billy.Iagree with you,i just can't buy what they're sellin.

[DNA]

Posted by kirolak (here)
I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

You should check out Jay Weidners stuff.
He links Stanley Kubrick with the Apollo missions, states that "A CLOCK WORK ORANGE" was referring to what can be done and was done to the astronauts.

[Tyy1907]

Posted by mojo (here)
Bonnie Meyer a contactee in the 70s claims meeting the Captain of a large UFO craft that had a bird-like appearance , he was blue, tall 6 foot bi-pedal and bird like. The Blue Avians are not a recent phenomenon from the Corey GoodET testimony. Ancient petroglyphs depict bird like men and indigenous tribes of America have spoken about them. The Sargent Clifford Stone testimony mentions over 50 species identified from the U.S. crash retrieval program in the 70s.
Most agree there is a variety of life in the cosmos so we can't discount having bird-like ones.

In regards to the astronauts being mind controlled that sounds more scary. If tptb did that to them did the astronauts like Neil Armstrong go willingly along with the mind control program? Maybe what he found out on the moon visits was more frightening to him, that some astronauts viewed being brainwashed as better then knowing?

I believe I've also heard Kewaunee Lapseritis speak of a bird-like race he interacted with. They healed him of a serious illness he had at the time.

[OMG]

If memories can be implanted or false how do we (or the victims) know if they are true?

How does Simon know his are true, since he mentions knowing people who have false memories, etc?

[grannyfranny100]

Maybe someone else can recall what I can't. I don't know who was visiting a retired friend (CIA?) in Montana (?) but the guy's wife was an MD who had sessions with the astronauts when they returned from the moon and she was responsible for giving them some shot so they couldn't remember the moon part of the trip. She did not mention any mind blocking treatments. It was just casual conversation.

[DaRkViPeR]

As an four year old child I was visited a couple of times by birdlike people. It always happened at night and I remember that their size used to scare the living daylights out of me. It is not a false memory because a while ago I spoke to my mother about it and she confirmed that it did happen and at the time they thought it was just bad dreams.

[grannyfranny100]

I think that Simon's situation was different than most. His relationship with off worlders was since he was a very young child. He was too young to realize that this was not a normal situation for a Terran. Once he accepted a contract with the Mantids, he began his training and protection by them. He has been protected by them since he was quite young and has a protected line of communication with them. Some of his earlier interviews got into this.

[araucaria]

Posted by Agape (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by kirolak (here)

I am horrified, the Apollo astronauts CAN NOT REMEMBER being on the moon? I do not mean to chalenge anyone, but is there a link/proof of this?? Please do not be offended!

Not offended at all! And you're right to be horrified. I've heard this from various sources over the years.

The most recent account was from Jay Weidner, on Art Bell's radio show on 4 August 2015 (just 10 days ago).

This audio clip is HIGHLY recommended listening, concerning the astronauts' loss of memory. The person talking first is Stanton Friedman, who was also a guest on the show:

http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...t_memories.mp3 (3 mins 20 seconds, 4 Mb)

Summary: Stanton Friedman asks whether Jay Weidner thinks the Apollo astronauts were lying. Weidner replies by saying:

• Buzz Aldrin, in a Las Vegas conference a year after returning from the moon (20 July 1970, the anniversary), was asked by a reporter "what it was really like on the moon". Aldrin immediately felt so nauseous, and suddenly had such a gigantic headache, that he could not speak, started shaking uncontrollably, and his wife had to help him leave the room. This is documented in Buzz Aldrin's own autobiography. Weidner compares that to a scene in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange, when apparently similar brainwashing methods were depicted in the film.

• Weidner then describes how he was told by a good personal friend, a very well-known professional hypnotherapist called Dr Robert Masters, that Edgar Mitchell had come to him asking to be hypnotized — because he "could not remember anything about the moon". Masters did indeed hypnotise him, but despite that, Mitchell STILL could not remember anything.

• Art Bell then confirms this, from an earlier radio show when Mitchell had told Bell on air that he could not remember much about the moon. Bell said that had "stopped him cold".

• Finally in this fascinating short clip, Weidner refers to the post-Apollo 11 press conference when all three astronauts were "looking as if their dog just died" (he stated this in an earlier segment of the program, not in this particular clip). He describes them as joyless and somber, with Neil Armstrong looking down most of the time... he recommends (as do I!) that people should actually watch this again. (It's here on Youtube.)

Again — please do listen: http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...t_memories.mp3

He may have ( probably ) suffered from brain hypoxia , I'd consider that option real . Of course , for physically and mentally untrained person this can result in collapse to the ground
but if you're trained you keep walking . Pilots or mountaineers who access high altitudes frequently suffer from hypoxia and of course it can mean certain death if such a state lasts for more than few minutes,

depending on change in gravity , pressure, temperatures , can happen to you in hot shower ( when steam can't exit the room ) and there's not enough free oxygen in the air anymore .

They had enough oxygen yet , they've been through extreme change of pressures .

You literally lose consciousness : and have either 'heightened sense of perception' ( sometimes as if looking at yourself from outside , what people describe as OBE ) or blank consciousness to extreme .


For the rest .. I'm sure they remember some if not most of it but the beginning too feels 'blank' to me .

An interesting thought Agape, but a public speaking engagement and a hot shower are two rather different situations to be in. It sounds more like an onstage situation worse than stage fright, where an actor dries up. He might do this for various reasons, but one of the secrets of smooth delivery is the rest of the cast following the script so that he can reply on cue. Fielding questions from the public would rely on similar cues, granted in any order; but what seems to have happened is that Patrick Moore’s question fell out of this range of scripted Q&A. This suggests that the astronauts were reciting a rehearsed script and were unable to improvise when prompted to do so. Whether this was conscious (censorship/secrecy) or unconscious (mind control) is another issue. I am not sure if Neil Armstrong could be mind-controlled to nudge his colleague: maybe he could, because suddenly feeling violently sick would hardly be the normal conscious response to a militarily sensitive question; you would expect that sort of thing to be brushed aside with minimum fuss.

Edit: Patrick Moore is the wrong name, Moore asked Armstrong about the stars. I meant Aldrin's questioner who made him sick.