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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    What a great post Limor!

    I've been trying to make similar points recently...and I'll admit here that it irks me a little that you're able to make it better and with more eloquence in your second language than I am with my native tongue....damn you!

    We all so badly want our heroes to be right about everything!...all the time! It would make life so much easier, wouldn't it? No more thinking! I'm talking about myself here too. I was just revisiting the 'Conversations With God' material, and i was relaxed and feeling like a sage (ha!), and thinking to myself that I wouldn't waver too much from this material..ever. this was it! I'd found it! Why had I ever forgotten it? And then "God" launches into his one world government spiel, all while giving effusive praise to George Bush Sr.! Wait, what??? Oh, I was so close to finding that all encompassing theory ive been seeking...and that all knowing sage. Damn it, he had to throw that wrench in there

    But I won't discard the material all together. There's tons of good stuff in there. Like you said, each has a piece of the fabric. We shouldnt be discouraged that so n so doesn't have all the answers...we should be grateful that he/she just has some! And then we slowly piece together the quilt...

    It's very much like that with the posts here as well. There's a gem in almost every post..even if most of it doesnt resonate with you. Ive been thinking about what Paul said for the last 15 mins or so..the. bit about teasing out unconscious realizations with regards to creativity. There was something about the way that was worded that brought me to a certain understanding. And its pretty cool when that happens!

    I think it would have been much more interesting if Simon said "blue bird beings are real!" It would be very difficult for Simon supporters to deny this...simply because it's much easier to believe your heroes than it is to question them. My strong suspicion is that many who agree with Simon regarding the bird aliens now would have just as readily agreed had he taken the opposite tact. At least one post would have begun like this: i knew the bird aliens were real all along but didn't want to upset the apple cart so I kept quiet. But in light of Simon's recent comments ...."

    Guaranteed.


    P.s. Ray (Finefeather), I like your posts brother. I have no idea if what you're saying is the way things are, but I'm certain that what you're saying is the way things should be seriously, your words have a very grounding and peaceful effect on me. Thanks for that
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    I must say I have to agree, sadly. I would love to believe him but my instincts make it impossible for me to believe this man. Every time I watch him my intuition tells me he is either making it up and/or regurgitating what he has read elsewhere. Sorry. I'd love to be wrong.
    Why not just stick with your instincts and your intuition, without the sadness, without the apologies, and without the loving to be wrong.
    I would hate to believe him, and I sure wouldn't understand if I were wrong.
    No convictions without courage.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    There have been several on Avalon over the years that have been put on a pedestal and quoted often.
    They can be thought of as an authority on their subject.
    I have noticed that the more bizarre the story "bizarre to me that is" the more ardent followers it seems to attract.
    Its as though they are believed to have the answer to the problems of the world and following their suggestions will change the world for the better.

    Discernment is useful and needs to be applied.

    It is just not healthy to put some one on a pedestal--this almost guarantees that they will fall short of expectations.

    Regards Chris
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
    I can't help but wonder why some here - good people, feel personal hurt when a 'messenger' is not falling into their proper criticism, there may be several reasons for that of course, but certain things that may not be taken into consideration are : Times, we are living in times of great troubles by a society which is coming out of a long lasting coma with quite the objection in the image of interdimensional interference, human impacted interference, cyclic planetary energies and technologies that are invasive at best. Looking for a leader that will give us the correct answers all the time at all times is a role that goes beyond the acceptance/non acceptance of information, it goes right into our inner most psychological need to relay on a reliable source in days of stormy water which often times leads to dissapointment and an automatic discharge of some good portion of information that lays within the more 'influenced' one

    This puts a big long mirror infront of us, that (if only we dare and take a look) we may identify the deep place from which our expectations emerge and perheps discontinue to over analyze any one human being who comes forward with mission/programming/aspiration/desire to do something, and relate to their informative offers mostly instead

    We are living in times of (deliberate) confusion and personal and collective uncertainty, so it's all quite understood, but more than none the conclusions that come up are two ends of the same rope, it's either all 'one big fantasy in someone's head' or perheps the opposite of 'ultimate truth in the hands of a one person'.

    Truth is, the distinctivness of the game being played and the role of each and every one reveals a whole fabric that has both 'DNA' and 'junk DNA' within it's pattern. There is always more than the eye can see, it's not all made from the same fabric on the same shirt, there are several woven yarns which reflect things that we yet need to learn and therefore we may want to thank the person and not attack them personally and when all yarns are identified which one is coming from where, we can make up our minds and see if it suits us to continue or if not simply walk away ~
    What you are writing here is certainly correct...but it is only true for those who are living in the reality you are describing...and not everyone on this planet lives in this reality.

    The messengers who come to offer supposed relief... or their brand of advice do so in the context of this same reality which you describe...those who do not see the messenger or the message of any use...have equal right to have an opinion...and who is to say that their rejection of these messengers is not the real truth? Who is to say that those who reject this reality you describe are not right?

    It is certainly the right of all Beings to have an opinion...and it also the right of a collective to have it's own opinion...so any messenger who gives a message will only be considered to be of value if it gives credence to a collective...another collective might not see any value in the message and have equal rights to reject it.

    There are many collectives of similar or equal thinking on Avalon and we cannot expect everyone to agree with all messengers...and how would one even begin to separate one collective from another on a forum where each has his/her right to an opinion.

    You say we should simply walk away...but there is another side to this also which is the search for truth..."you are either for me or against me" is a message from truth...and you can see millions of people on this planet everyday in the darkest of places NOT walking away from that which creates the very thing we are fighting against...these are the people who fight for truth...if you keep walking away from a festering saw...how do you expect it to heal?...and standing up for truth means standing against untruth.

    It is quite clear to most people on this planet that truth and 'untruth' exists...good and 'evil'...and the truth of the matter is that not everyone lives in the same supposed truth which we each believe is the right truth.

    So clearly your message can only apply to those in your belief of your supposed truth?

    We are also not waiting for any leader...we are each the leader of our own destiny and it is only those who have no answer to the reality they have chosen to be part of that needs a leader...not everyone wants a leader because many many know the truth of life and the need for individual sovereignty...and the truth of unity and brotherhood...which can only be realised when we see the real reality in which we live and not the one created by dark forces...which many think they have identified and are against... when in fact they have no idea that they are living in the same reality created by these dark forces...despite thinking that are not.

    So your message is only true for those who live in the reality you describe...but what is the answer then?

    There is truth waiting to be found and free for all but the pull of fantasy and fiction and illusion is just too strong to release the mind and free it up to receive truth.

    The answers we are looking for is available right now...we do not have to wait for anything or anyone...it only takes will to move from illusion to reality...it is a choice...a choice each of us needs to take one day...only then will we be free from the reality you are describing...

    No one can be free in a collective where freedom is not an option...you have to move away and into the collective where freedom is the only way...and only from this view can we fight untruth.

    Take care
    Ray
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    There have been several on Avalon over the years that have been put on a pedestal and quoted often.
    They can be thought of as an authority on their subject.
    I have noticed that the more bizarre the story "bizarre to me that is" the more ardent followers it seems to attract.
    Its as though they are believed to have the answer to the problems of the world and following their suggestions will change the world for the better.

    Discernment is useful and needs to be applied.

    It is just not healthy to put some one on a pedestal--this almost guarantees that they will fall short of expectations.

    Regards Chris
    A helpful modifying note here, to maybe clarify what Chris refers to:

    My personal stance on this is that if a forum member seems to be saying something particularly interesting or noteworthy, and appears or claims to have the credentials to do so, I will almost always offer them the microphone on stage. (This is, after all, a shared stage.)

    That always attracts a lot of interest, of course, but that very scrutiny then quite often exposes real flaws, or legitimate concerns. In some cases, that then leads them being asked to leave that same stage.

    A case in point: I've been accused of 'promoting' Corey. Not so. I was urged by Christine to showcase his story, after she had met him in person when (coincidentally) she was visiting Dallas last September.

    The idea for the initial interview was her initiative, not mine. But I will always do the best job I can when editing a video or audio, whatever it is... even if it's about my dog. For me, that's a matter of professional principle, as it were. I simply always do the best I can.

    At that point (the first Corey interview), all seemed cool and interesting. He was then on stage with the microphone, to use the analogy above. It was AFTER that that everything went awry.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Originally posetd by Finefeather: The messengers who come to offer supposed relief..."
    Hi Ray, I agree with parts of what you say, I genuinely think that some of the messaengers are really doing it for the sake of the human race and sincerely wanting to move things forward, that is the first valuable distinction - sincerity, and it should count a lot in our books where integrity and honesty are attributes that long have been lost from our political leaders

    Quote Originaly posted by Finefeather: "who is to say that their rejection of these messengers is not the real truth?"
    No one, one thing may be useful to remind ourselves, is that we are under observence and being influenced at all times, meaning - it is USEFUL for others that the Alternative community will indulge more in the image of the messanger and not objectively sift through the many angles of one's own story and it's implications on us as human beings, whether the details are true or not, and align with some conclusions. Unity is not a desired outcome for them but energetic discordance IS, so, yes, a vocal rejection of the messenger is the right of everyone, but does it serve our interest? Are we closer than previous years towards any firm understanding with relation to the general intention of ET's and their role in our life? Do we at all have a say as human beings, do we know what we want? Have we formulated any kind of statement about the future we want to find ourselves in, are we completely in agreement for what we stand for? or are we engaged in criticizing this or that person sheding ourself from any self responsibility by claiming how he/they leads us astray.. so it's not the rejection itself, it is really quite valuable to have a discussion on what's been offered, and even vital to have an opinion, it's how it's done and what are we inspecting.. is it the the message or the messanger?

    Quote Originally posted by Fine feather: "you can see millions of people on this planet everyday in the darkest of places NOT walking away from that which creates the very thing we are fighting against..."
    and so we seem to agree on the walking away part as an optimal solution to depart from dark places (after diagnosing, researching, coming to conclusions, hopefuly engaging in open exchange/discussion, consolidating an opinion and expressing it and our concerns-satisfactions with it, and should we not want to continue we walk away.

    Quote Originally posted by Fine feather: " but there is another side to this also which is the search for truth..."you are either for me or against me" is a message from truth...
    In my eyes, that may be interpreted more as the custom mindset of duality and not so much a representive of the more spiritual truth which may be constructed of several layers with many colors and shades of truth.
    For example, I feel honored to be on the side of Simon parkes as a person, but am not in alignement (and do not yet fully understand) the beings he represent and their unclear intention for my species, this I want to understand better, and than stand on my right as a human being and excercise my will whether to embrace it or not. By arguing the messenger and not the message, we are not even close to be there.

    Quote Originally posted by Mike: "I've been trying to make similar points recently...and I'll admit here that it irks me a little that you're able to make it better and with more eloquence in your second language than I am with my native tongue....damn you! "
    Don't worry, Mike, I have a rotten English, it takes me ages to think and check in the dictionary if this word in my mind actually exists and has the intended meaning and I don't even speake English at all, I just learned here on the forum how to write, and if I do speak a little- my Hebrew accent sounds like the sawing of a tree trunk (had to check that one out) at 5am in the morning, so I wouldn't be too impressed if I were you

    In my eyes the question is why do we look for heroes at all.. inspiration, expertise, knowledge, work ability... yes.
    Does it matter if there are beings that appear as blue birds (there may possibly be this type of beings somewhere in the universe), or if it's a mind control injection.. what might matter is how do we react to such scenarios within our human capability

    Many good Blessings ~

    Limor
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Thank you Agape for this clarification – which says that what is not clear in the first place will only become more obscure if we want to make it clear at all cost.

    I am re-reading John Mack's famous "Abduction. Human encounters with aliens" which I read when it came out in 1994. Practically all those very sensitively documented cases of people becoming transformed by their meetings show that, as their emotional turmoil gradually moves from horror or fear through courage and patience to acceptance and ultimately love, their anatomical description of the beings' appearance by means of zoological analogies gradually moves away from "grey" or "ant-like" or "reptilian" to something more aloof or transdimensional – with quite a few of the abductees wondering whether such "species-shifting" of their visitors may represent the temporary result of their bleeding through into our dimensional setup from where they come, adapting and reaching out to our world.

    I attach high probability to this as it is also dovetails into what my reading of the mystic's accounts – from quite a few religions – with angel-like beings has made me understand. We just have to look at what the great masters of painting have invented in order to represent the emissaries of the divine. Blue and purplish blue or violet seem to be favorite colors.

    On a personal note, I have once been surprised, or blessed, by a small but unforgettable visionary experience and the being that approached me was of a resplendent blue color that I can instantly recall, but have never come across in nature since.

    Coming back to the beings – a too fast "zoological" identification makes me think of the "nuts and bots" hypotheses we used to harbour regarding their vehicles, whereas now our witnessing their (relative) immateriality seems to have changed the dominant paradigm.

    Form is always present, yet never fixed.
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    mind control is so advanced , anything is possible ... I watched a man off the street get hypnotized to walk with a limp , on the hearing of one word , it happened and afterwards he didn't remember the trigger that started it ... they video taped him and showed him , he couldn't remember switching to walk with a limp ...
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)

    It is just not healthy to put some one on a pedestal--this almost guarantees that they will fall short of expectations.

    Regards Chris

    The age of Pisces ends. What it rules over and what is coming to an end, or shift point.

    The age of Aquarius begins. What it rules over and what is coming into a greater focus, or motion into.

    Read these things very carefully, people, and you will see the shape of your world and how it moves in all it's subtlety.

    You'll have to use discernment, and thought, though. One must move into truth, it cannot be brought down.
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    mind control has become very advanced , you think it's an accident you sit at a computer , own a cell phone , drink water from a bottle ??? everything is designed to keep you buying and stuck in the control system of the matrix ... the ptb control the narrative everywhere , except on the Avalon forum ... they own FB , twitter , the mainstream news , the blockbuster movies , the papers , magazines , the schools , the government , the police , the supreme court , and yes the white house ... we live in a controlled environment , from sun up to sun down and while we sleep , subtle microwaves are piped into every home keeping you in the box ... hence the term when I woke up ... simon could be mind controlled and not even know it ... he could be part of the drip of subtle disclosure ...
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Hopefully, you've heard of the "Greenbaum Speech"?




    No I had not seen it. Very interesting, Thank you
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    Thank you Agape for this clarification – which says that what is not clear in the first place will only become more obscure if we want to make it clear at all cost.

    I am re-reading John Mack's famous "Abduction. Human encounters with aliens" which I read when it came out in 1994. Practically all those very sensitively documented cases of people becoming transformed by their meetings show that, as their emotional turmoil gradually moves from horror or fear through courage and patience to acceptance and ultimately love, their anatomical description of the beings' appearance by means of zoological analogies gradually moves away from "grey" or "ant-like" or "reptilian" to something more aloof or transdimensional – with quite a few of the abductees wondering whether such "species-shifting" of their visitors may represent the temporary result of their bleeding through into our dimensional setup from where they come, adapting and reaching out to our world.

    I attach high probability to this as it is also dovetails into what my reading of the mystic's accounts – from quite a few religions – with angel-like beings has made me understand. We just have to look at what the great masters of painting have invented in order to represent the emissaries of the divine. Blue and purplish blue or violet seem to be favorite colors.

    On a personal note, I have once been surprised, or blessed, by a small but unforgettable visionary experience and the being that approached me was of a resplendent blue color that I can instantly recall, but have never come across in nature since.

    Coming back to the beings – a too fast "zoological" identification makes me think of the "nuts and bots" hypotheses we used to harbour regarding their vehicles, whereas now our witnessing their (relative) immateriality seems to have changed the dominant paradigm.

    Form is always present, yet never fixed.


    Thank you for your comment .

    I believe ( from experience ) that people fail to communicate directly in ET encounters ( despite being so good in human communications ) unless they have evolved abstract thinking to the point where they're self sufficient,
    liberated from the prison of conceptuality acquired during their human upbringing

    because the 'intelligence on the other side' works on another frequency ,
    and unless you're prepared for a transformation

    it can only speak to you through 'analogues' .

    In my experience again, all advanced entities will prefer to speak directly from using metaphors and images but it's so far, the only means how to appeal to human minds .. in common ,



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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    because the 'intelligence on the other side' works on another frequency ,
    and unless you're prepared for a transformation

    it can only speak to you through 'analogues' .
    Why are people not prepared for a ‘transformation’? Because they are rightly wary of submitting to outside control, even for good. This holds not just for ETs but for surgeons as well. The video you posted the other day, Agape, of the brain surgeon operating on the singer shows someone extremely careful to avoid making transformations. His business of healing involved precisely making zero transformations. What we saw was his avoidance of damage, but you are now talking about the inadvertent (or more likely deliberate) enhancement of the patient’s singing powers. He didn’t sign up for that, and rightly so, because his singing powers are not quantifiable against any objective scale; his powers of any kind are measured in terms of his soul development, i.e. the process of getting from where he is at to where he is going, which is an inner transformation. Angelic voices appearing out of nowhere are not what this process is all about. This is messianism, and the question of messianism is not the usual one of being Saved from what? (we largely know the answer to that); the one we don’t often hear is Saved to what? What is this other-worldly existence that is to replace our present one? The only answer can be a synthesis of the two: we evolve from where we are through realizing our developing aspirations for where we would like to be. That is process that truly benevolent ETs have to stand by and watch, with the occasional nudge. They cannot be allowed to burst in and transform us, any more than a teacher setting a problem for a class will provide the right answer. The real right answer is learning to distinguish between incorrect calculations leading to incorrect results, correct calculations leading to incorrect results, and correct calculations leading to correct results. Any mentoring (to use Alex Collier’s word) has to restrict itself to the student’s level and leave him to work it out for himself: look at what’s written on the blackboard, remember yesterday’s lesson… because that is precisely the skill that is needed from humans at this time.

    More analogies, you will say. Sure: and here’s another Born in the digital age, my son, who incidentally is a surgeon, likes nothing better than one of my old analog vinyl records, precisely because of all the things that get airbrushed out on a CD, up to and including the slight perception of the rotation speed. In other words, it reaches (and transforms) the soul more effectively because it has a physical component that touches the physical component of the human soul.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Araucaria : yes , precisely, it's the case . It's always the case

    We are different and only trying to communicate, for starters . And yet ..we can't because of this sometimes, extreme fear ... we feel of each other , each others thinking patterns .
    I tell you my own example from human life , simple as that : there are many people who enjoy arguments for arguments . No matter what you tell them , be it a friendly gesture , medical advice , postcard from Holland or coffee from Brazil,
    they'll find it a reason for re-enacting an argument , endless argument running through their minds every moment of their life ( except for when they take sleeping pill ). The same people are so attached to their own perception of how brain works .. that unless you start arguing with them , on their level , they attack you instead .

    There's nothing like own experience ... see and try .

    They're overwhelmed by their convictions , and every single element , person becomes an object they're convinced they know and can judge and criticise ,
    correct , put in perspective .



    Reasons quoted by you are reasons why I do not sign up for many 'human transformations' either .

    Of them all , I believe perhaps maths and music ( especially some jewels of classical music ) are 'pure' on abstract level , free of interpretations : free for you , to interpret them on your own .

    To appreciate beauty of some classical rhapsody or Fourier transform ( it's officially called : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform ) you need to put other things aside for a while .
    Immerse yourself in the abstract world . YES , many people are afraid of maths ..for example .. is not exactly being 'afraid of transformation'.
    I think most are afraid of it because they were wrongly told at school that maths is difficult and perhaps they struggled with one or two exams .

    It's still very handy , later in life , if you have good foundation in maths , it's an aspect generally overlooked in our society and you meet many otherwise well educated adults who hesitate and struggle with simple logical or mathematical problems .

    Too much abstract thinking can be dangerous .. for sure .

    But everything evolves and one day we will know better .


    This 'mental image' ( not sure where did I get it from, oh , right, movie ET the Extraterrestrial I saw late as an adult anyway because my mum was once told it's only for adults .. there was something mysterious about it .. it was new in movie halls when I was about 10 and she went to see it with her colleagues and let me home alone , something she would not do otherwise .. , and in later part of my life I seldom watched movies and I only saw full of it on my computer few years ago, never mind )
    comes to my mind fairly often here,

    and it happens in real life many times too ... and I try turning it to fun , each time .

    It's the 'mutual scare' . I'm not sure if I can find the right clip.

    I'll look for it and may fill it in later .



    The 'reaction' starts roughly in 1:40 minute , with little Gertie entering the room.



    But please , understand .. I spent on appreciating and trying to understand human life and mind many years as well , I still have much more to fear from 'you' ( as mass of human beings ) than you'd ever have to fear from me. Your fear and doubts and logical errors are as infectious as your laughter is .
    You can kill me for meat or for organ donation, you've been seducing me to being human , the mind control of society in those areas is pretty tough .


    I've never attacked anybody ( of course I stepped on at least 5 peoples toes ) and I seldom get into conflicts at all , certainly not by will .
    Yet .. it's inevitable part of human lives..

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    It's purely virtual , artificial scare of course , situational one ..it has such tags attached to it such as #disclosure , #alternative media , #forum discussion, #extraterrestrials, #google servers , #mind controls, #witnesses .. and so on.

    In reality , most probably neither Auracaria or me are capable of scaring anybody .



    What's my fault ? I've reported my information in 2006 to ufo related websites . Honestly , I wrote to SETI too and got a short and sentient response back.

    I thought, perhaps ..there are more people somewhere in the backgrounds working on this than the front 'PR Office' claims .

    My message can be still found on the ufocasebook website :

    http://www.ufocasebook.com/2002spaceshipencounter.html

    http://www.ufocasebook.com/etoriginofmankind.html


    I came to report the information in total , could never do that so far .. yet, I was pushed and prompted to become part of various ufo and conspiracy related forums and share with other 'experiencers' .
    To discuss 'my experiences' , I was being constantly offered an interpretation of what I've actually experienced, who I am and how I feel whenever I consented to open my mouth about it.

    Thanks to the many genuine people with pure hearts who actually cared to read or hear what I had to say and their minds were still firing full speed .
    I really don't think there's one 'magical way' how to enlighten everyone, probably not either technological or spiritual magic anywhere in the Universe that can surpass power of living intelligence and its own Evolution.

    None of your prophets, great teachers or divine incarnations were able to wave 'magic wand' and rise everyone where we need them to be ,
    yes you can oppose with some kind of reverse causality, concept of karma and how life on earth is a lesson we voluntarily choose to undertake
    however this may be true for SOME , not for ALL.

    Imagine .. I mean , if I had the power , full power of God or Enlightenment , would I let any single soul or creature suffer, repeat their own mistakes , die in childhood, I would not .

    And yet ... so many of your cultures believed and some still believe in the power of 'impossible' .

    And yet ... no matter how unrealistic is the concept of human salvation and final day of judgement , no matter how unpredictable is the power of miracles ,

    there's something we say we don't know yet but are waiting for ..



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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    That ET clip is the hollowed [edit: read Hollywood] version of reality. The bookcase, symbolizing acquired knowledge, just folds up like a pack of cards. The symbolism of that is the sudden transformation you are talking about. Accumulated knowledge lies in a heap on the floor. In real life, the bookshelf would have held firm and the kid would have doubled up in physical pain after backing into it. That would have been symbolic of something else: book knowledge can hurt you when you come up against real experience; but only because it has to be recognized as part of the picture, and there is room on that bookshelf to accommodate new experiences. Why it hurt is because you have it behind you, where you were not looking. In other words, the problem arises through focusing on the dramatic aspect of the overall experience instead of having all-round vision of it. There is not one elephant in the room, but all sorts of creatures large and small to attend to.

    When you are struck by something, it happens in the physical. You get knocks or nausea or fear, all physical symptoms possibly calling for physical treatment. And the same goes for abstractions. I am not saying transformation cannot happen, but in these parts this is how it is done. When Bill Ryan explains the abstract concept of trust to some young kids, he does not communicate telepathically, he dangles himself off a rope and relies on them to stop him falling to his death. That is transformational learning achieved because it speaks to the guts first, their heads second and their minds only third. Bill can do that because he is a spiritually evolved being, but nevertheless he did it with a piece of rope up a mountain. We all need to learn this ‘rope trick’ – a physical attachment that may sometime in someplace be no longer necessary, but not to be frowned upon on that hypothetical/future basis. So it’s not about scaring people at all: it’s about gaining trust.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post988163
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    I don't believe everything Simon has stated; I've had a lot of questions and doubts, but on the whole, though not perfect, I think he is quite sincere, and certainly knows more than the average person, if only given his connections on this planet, if not off-planet.
    He seems to have been quite a hard-working person all of his life, as a whistleblower, as a politician, a driving instructor and general 9 to five working man, as well as a dad.
    He's in his 50s now, which isn't young anymore, so if he's slowing down, that's not really too surprising.
    He hasn't benefited hugely from those connections financially, and apparently he doesn't charge a lot, comparatively, for his personal sessions.
    I think that most of us really have no idea what kind of stresses whistleblowers have to endure; the work they do isn't easy if only because they have to deal with highly sensitive and often very scary information on a day to day basis.
    We need to try and be fair when assessing their worth to us in that capacity, and to be at least as fair as we would in assessing any other person, as they are only human beings, for the most part subject to the same foibles and problems that other human beings are.
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    I don't know much about Simon except one video he did where he was being regressed and started to remember an Egyptian ritual. The person who was regressing him stopped him cold and guided him away from it and that quite upset me because I felt it was important. If he ever did go back and view that ritual I have no idea....but it was quite interesting.

    The rest I have no idea...and can't comment on Simon's ability. But he does 'suggest' that implanted memory might be feasible in this BA thing.

    Recently it's been suggested he's being toyed with by AI which is silly. Because if he were...he'd be making a whole lot more sense. Which he is not.

    Basically people are giving this guy a whole lot more credit for things he's been reading up on and plagiarizing by others and reformulated into his new fantasy.

    I'm have a real hard time believing this is even an implanted memory. I think it's just turned into a cash cow for his lack of wanting to go back to work after his hiatus with temporary work related disability which he's also been milking for some time now.

    Imaging that. Some of us who have had experience that is unfathomable STILL have to work for a living and pay the bills. Believe me that's not easy but far better on self confidence and at the end of the day, I personally can benefit from that little thing called self respect. I wonder if he can.
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    I read the back and forth between Araucaria and Agape with interest. For the purpose of my thought, Agape is one kind of "alien", Araucaria is another and "Blue Avians" is the common ground of experience both are trying to communicate. In analogue, BOTH alien races may have grown up with a "sort of" blue avian. The chemical composition might be different but they both fly and "look blue" to the observer.

    In analogy, maybe each observer is attempting to describe "looks blue".

    In an analog record, someone "recorded a blue avian" and it has a range of frequencies that when played back emanate as much "blue avian" as is possible at that "time" to record in continuous streams of data. Digital just estimates.

    What is important is the common understanding of "blue avian". "One" blue avian" flying is Agape's Feathered "blue bird" but Araucaria's (hypothetical example only) metallic blue "thingie" with wings is also flying. Maybe both can carry something in a beak-like analogous structure.

    I see blue avians....seriously!!! They are flying blue flashes that I see..so they are avians. I can't explain what they are except by that analogy.
    So, I am just saying....one blue avian is perhaps NOT another's blue avian and they may have analagous function, be described by analogy ANYWAY. BUT, we better get a GOOD analog RECORD (not all blurry and s*&t like all those very digital blurred youtubes) to RESOLVE this attempt for aliens to communicate across experience!!

    Analogue

    Quote Full Definition of ANALOGUE
    1
    : something that is analogous or similar to something else
    2
    : an organ or part similar in function to an organ or part of another animal or plant but different in structure and origin
    3
    usually analog : a chemical compound that is structurally similar to another but differs slightly in composition (as in the replacement of one atom by an atom of a different element or in the presence of a particular functional group)
    4
    : a food product made by combining a less expensive food (as soybeans or whitefish) with additives to give the appearance and taste of a more expensive food (as beef or crab)
    Analogy

    Quote noun, plural analogies.
    1.
    a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based:
    the analogy between the heart and a pump.
    2.
    similarity or comparability:
    I see no analogy between your problem and mine.
    3.
    Biology. an analogous relationship.
    4.
    Linguistics.
    the process by which words or phrases are created or re-formed according to existing patterns in the language, as when shoon was re-formed as shoes, when -ize is added to nouns like winter to form verbs, or when a child says foots for feet.
    a form resulting from such a process.
    5.
    Logic. a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.
    Quote Analog
    As humans, we perceive the world in analog. Everything we see and hear is a continuous transmission of information to our senses. This continuous stream is what defines analog data. Digital information, on the other hand, estimates analog data using only ones and zeros.

    For example, a turntable (or record player) is an analog device, while a CD player is digital. This is because a turntable reads bumps and grooves from a record as a continuous signal, while a CD player only reads a series of ones and zeros. Likewise, a VCR is an analog device, while a DVD player is digital. A VCR reads audio and video from a tape as a continuous stream of information, while a DVD player just reads ones and zeros from a disc.

    Since digital devices read only ones and zeros, they can only approximate an audio or video signal. This means analog data is actually more accurate than digital data. However, digital data can can be manipulated easier and preserved better than analog data. More importantly, computers can only handle digital data, which is why most information today is stored digitally. But if you want to transfer video from old analog video tapes into your computer so you can edit them, you're not out of luck. You can use a digital to analog converter (DAC) to convert the analog information into a digital signal that can be recognized by your computer.http://techterms.com/definition/analog
    My challenge to any ET Blue Avians...I will believe I see you only when I see you (when I am sober) or IF you send me an analog record that verifies scientifically...digital is easily photoshopped. Until then, you are just an analogy for "sounds good but show me the money".
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

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    If memories can be implanted or false how do we (or the victims) know if they are true?

    How does Simon know his are true, since he mentions knowing people who have false memories, etc?

    And the Parks statement seems like revenge, because of the things Goode has stated about Parks.
    I don't care if Parks is in fact a contactee, I don't trust the guy or his message.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes says: Blue Avians? NO!

    Quote Posted by Delight (here)

    In analogy, maybe each observer is attempting to describe "looks blue".

    In an analog record, someone "recorded a blue avian" and it has a range of frequencies that when played back emanate as much "blue avian" as is possible at that "time" to record in continuous streams of data. Digital just estimates.

    What is important is the common understanding of "blue avian". "One" blue avian" flying is Agape's Feathered "blue bird" but Araucaria's (hypothetical example only) metallic blue "thingie" with wings is also flying. Maybe both can carry something in a beak-like analogous structure.

    I see blue avians....seriously!!! They are flying blue flashes that I see..so they are avians. I can't explain what they are except by that analogy.
    So, I am just saying....one blue avian is perhaps NOT another's blue avian and they may have analagous function, be described by analogy ANYWAY. BUT, we better get a GOOD analog RECORD (not all blurry and s*&t like all those very digital blurred youtubes) to RESOLVE this attempt for aliens to communicate across experience!!

    That flies with me , thank you Blue Delight : oh sorry, just Delight , all in blue .

    I think that your definition of 'Blue Avians' = blue flashes that fly, therefor : 'Blue Avians' sounds the most accurate phenomenological description and closest to reality ever of 'Blue Avians'
    and what I tried to explain earlier ( regarding so called 'Mantids' , 'Reptilians, 'Avians' ,
    'Cetaceans' - ever heard of Cetaceans from Tau Ceti ...

    here's one :



    and so forth .

    The idea that world around us is not 'what it seems' , the relativity of observer-observation-observed , amount of information delivered to us by our limited senses adjusted by our brain as 'explanation' for the surrounding reality

    even a glimpse of such relativity can be frightening to some who never happened upon such observation.

    What you think are solid boundaries of mind and matter starts melting ( as if it would ) and new array of subtle phenomena emerges ,
    each a tunnel to its own sub-reality .


    Yes please , send her the analog ..


    Sincerely Blue and Yours


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