Am I expecting too much?

[ascendingenergy]

Hello all,

I thought I would start a new thread and see what others are experiencing and doing about their own "expectations".

As a light worker, empath, intuitive, and highly sensitive person, I sometimes wonder if I am expecting to much to quickly. Quiet frankly, I'm tired of all this "fear porn" that we have on this planet and I do not watch any TV or have any TV service at my house at all.

There are days that I feel that if I was able to ascend or, transmute into my true nature, I would. However, I seem to have more work to do in this body on this 3D realm.

I also wonder why we have not seen disclosure yet or, if the "messages" from such channellings like sheldan nidle and Salausa are for real or, if they are just put out there to entertain us.

I fully understand that when I personally am ready for ascension, I will experience it. However, why would we be given "messages of hope" through so called channels if they are not accurate.

I'm just way beyond ready to experience some positive changes on this planet... and start to do my light work.

Anyone else feel like this? I would appreciate some input or replies.

~namaste~

[Ted]

I've heard all kinds of predictions over the years, and frankly, 99% were BS. Therefore, I don't ever actually expect them to happen.

[Bluegreen]

Hello ascendingenergy glad you are here
The answer to your thread title is no

Edit: Thank you Dennis

[Pam]

The answer for me is to relinquish expectation and do my best to stay in the present moment. That's the best I have come up with after years and years of being a truth seeker. Am I able to do do that on a consistent basis, no, but when I do it is a lot easier to exist on this planet.

The whole concept of ascension is nice to think about but it just doesn't make sense in the end. It's like the Heaven scenario. What would be the point of being allowed to ascend to a new and better world unless we had overcome destructive tendencies in the here and now? We would just pollute the new environment in more ways then one. To me it is too similar to the savior paradigm. Either someone else will save us or we will be removed from this hell into a paradise. Either one of these ideas are nice, easy ways out of the mess we have created.

As far as disclosure and similar topics. I think reality is much different then what we think it is. It seems a near logical impossibility that for the most part the masses have never directly seen intelligent life from another planet. I just think it is too odd that we can see all of these planets and most of us don't have direct experience or absolute proof of experience of other life forms. I suspect that we are either participating in a holographic game or we are operating in a isolated frequency that does not allow us to experience most of what is going on. It might be a combination of two, who knows? I do believe that most of the sightings are truthful but that they may be part of the holographic game we are in, rather than actual beings from other planets.

At the end of the day, I don't know diddly squat, I just keep knowing less, and less. When I accept this, I experience a degree of peace I never felt when I thought I knew a lot.

[betoobig]

Don´t expect, trust it will happen. Please do not forget your power, and our power toghether. Why shouldn´t you expect the very best outcome? when is completly possible. Now let me tell you that at the same time be aware and ready for whatever.
With all that is happening we are in good direction, no WWIII so far, so we could be worst; in fact we´v been worse, we´v been sleep.
SO let your heart be full of grace visualazin heaven on earth... it is about time, iam ready too.

"you may say i am a dreamer
but i am not the only one..."
The bad thing about expectation is delusion, thus loosing the ilusion... so don´t loose it. What i mean is that i am glad that most of the thigs that where suppous to hapend didn´t, they where mostly bad. But the good things are coming little by little in an unstopable way.
Recreate yourselfvisualizing the best scenario. That´l do good for us all.
LOve...Evol

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Hey, and wellcome to Avalon Ascendingenergy, great to have you here.

[Selkie]

Welcome to PA, ascendingenergy

[raregem]

Posted by ascendingenergy (here)

I also wonder why we have not seen disclosure yet or, if the "messages" from such channellings like sheldan nidle and Salausa are for real or, if they are just put out there to entertain us

I'm just way beyond ready to experience some positive changes on this planet... and start to do my light work.

Anyone else feel like this? I would appreciate some input or replies.

~namaste~

If living in your light and joy, following your path, without the nefarious interference judged as too much expectation then expectation be damned !
I say -too long waiting, learning, seeking truth just to peddle backwards is enough for this lifetime. I am ready to move on from this, too.

Re: Disclosure...I feel we exist on many timelines and there is a timeline where this has already happened.
Re: Channeled messages.... I am of the thought that a channeled messages' accuracy and the truth exist specifically for the receiver on their belief system and dimensional abilities / vibration levels. What and to whom do they open themselves?

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm in the camp that says: "do it." No waiting for others - though it may be possible that we will inspire others by our "doing."

I'm also in the camp that says to thoroughly research whatever the 'problem'/situation is - not succumb to the current groupthink/meme - to ensure that the "doing" is not worthless energy expended. Much worthless effort is expended. I'd guess that if one-thousandth of the total effort of well-meaning people was well-researched, properly analyzed, and had a workable solution to the problem, we would see astounding change and very quickly.

Most people get discouraged because they are unaware that they are ill-prepared to solve the problem they want solved. They have high expectations (emotional energy) based on poor quality research or relying on others' research (which was poor), and don't even have the problem understood and so of course cannot provide a solution.

An example: Former Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig, "founder" of Rootstrikers (the name based on Thoreau's quote about striking the root.) If you listen to one of his lectures, he'll hook you quickly and it will appear that he understands the problem (of why US citizens have no representation in US federal government.) But, what he is listing are symptoms, not facets of the problem. He only lists one facet of the problem (corporate "donations" appearing to control who gets elected.) His solution? Limits to campaign donations, so that "everyone can put in $5" (I'm paraphrasing.)

If he had researched better, he would have discovered that there are 9 facets to that problem, and the top 3 most powerful of those facets are not monetary! So, there is no solution that is strictly monetary. (In fact, if the top 3 methods used by the Elite to control election outcomes are not addressed and stopped completely, exactly the same members of the D mob and the R mob (the Elite's "duopoly" shadowboxers) would get "elected." This isn't by accident - the Elite are very good at taking control and keeping control.

Expecting too much?

If we are waiting for others to do something (especially, expecting others to do something effective), we will continue under the status quo. This includes waiting for "white hats" to disclose an ET presence, giving out free energy technology, or handing you a Nesara check.

If we do poor (or no) research, and don't even understand the problem at hand, our expectations about our "solutions" actually solving the problem will not be met. (After researching and analyzing a problem and ascertaining just what a real and effective solution would comprise), tie your expectations to your own work.

[Agape]

Good points .. I think it's mostly because of when we walk spiritual path it makes us feel subtle and quiet ..

of course there are always few individuals shouting on the stage , against the roar of magnitudes , like madman trying to scream louder than the roar of tide.

Sometimes , I think, this world needs people like Jimmy Hendrix . Spiritual warriors . You have to stand up for the cause once the cause calls you ..


There's war going on continuously somewhere out there .. but my heart has to be in Peace

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=A6_p5CV5plc

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by ascendingenergy (here)
Hello all,

I thought I would start a new thread and see what others are experiencing and doing about their own "expectations".

As a light worker, empath, intuitive, and highly sensitive person, I sometimes wonder if I am expecting to much to quickly. Quiet frankly, I'm tired of all this "fear porn" that we have on this planet and I do not watch any TV or have any TV service at my house at all.

There are days that I feel that if I was able to ascend or, transmute into my true nature, I would. However, I seem to have more work to do in this body on this 3D realm.

I also wonder why we have not seen disclosure yet or, if the "messages" from such channellings like sheldan nidle and Salausa are for real or, if they are just put out there to entertain us.

I fully understand that when I personally am ready for ascension, I will experience it. However, why would we be given "messages of hope" through so called channels if they are not accurate.

I'm just way beyond ready to experience some positive changes on this planet... and start to do my light work.

Anyone else feel like this? I would appreciate some input or replies.

~namaste~

Hi there, and welcome to the forum!

A brief input from myself (if it may be useful... but I don't really want to rain on your parade!):

I also wonder why we have not seen disclosure yet

Do please see this inspired 10 minute presentation on exactly this subject from Richard Dolan. It's very highly recommended, and is one of the most intelligent, concise synopses we may ever hear. For anyone who has NOT seen this, you just must.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iROkeC3lmVA

or, if the "messages" from such channellings like Sheldan Nidle and Salausa are for real

I have to say that in my very strong personal opinion, they are not.

when I personally am ready for ascension, I will experience it

If 'ascension' means anything at all (and it may not) — it only refers to our own personal growth, which is (a) in our own hands, and (b) a daily process (and a daily opportunity).

Nothing extraordinary will happen overnight ... that's like waiting for an external, magical rescue event. All hoping, or waiting, for that will ever do... is disempower us.

[PHennessey]

Spend more time in the here and now, achieving life goals, taking care of loved ones, traveling, growing, creating art, music, writing, etc. You have to actually put some work in and build something tangible with your talents. Stop waiting for a sign -- it will never come. YOU make the sign by virtue of your actions.

[Callista]

“Ascension” is a word that has become much misunderstood and misrepresented by many. Popularly among the New Age proponents, Ascension is the means whereby a human is magically whisked out of this 3D vibration and put into a 5D Nirvana where all problems are solved and everything is beautiful all of the time.

It doesn’t work like this.

How would we learn anything about our true nature if we were not challenged by the 3D experiences we have drawn to ourselves? How would we discern between behaviours that encourage our spiritual evolvement and behaviours which inhibit our spiritual evolvement?

My understanding of Ascension is that it is actually the descension and anchoring of higher vibrations into this 3D vibration of extreme physicality. We do this by raising our vibration through the use of our imagination. Using our imagination enables us to access other dimensions and timelines that show us other aspects of ourselves and enable us to understand more of who we are.

(Ascension can also refer to the evolvement of our planet and we are an important and critical catalyst for that – but that is another discussion for another time.)

We also raise our vibration by focussing on our own personal growth and examining our actions and re-actions that take place during everyday life. We find out that we can make a choice about which attitudes and actions raise our vibration and which ones do not.

Most of all, we come to understand the victim/perpetrator trap and realize that it simply does not work. No-one is coming to save you – not Jesus, not the Galactics, not your guru, not your President, not your partner, not your money, not your job, not your possessions.

Anything outside of ourselves in this 3D paradigm is an illusion and therefore the only sensible modus operandi is to understand ourselves very well.

It is possible to get assistance from those who have trodden the path a few steps ahead of you – but choose carefully. I am happy to recommend someone who has helped me and is helping many – please PM me for details☺

Much love
Callista

[Ultima Thule]

I would rephrase the old parable:
Chop wood, carry water and f*** the ascension - and you just might reach it.

In other words no need to ascend, be mindful of your basics and something might descend into your being and enrich you.

And once more: better stand with bottoms of feet steadily on ground - when reaching high and standing on ones toes, eventually one gets bored and tired.

In "Paulo Coelho": mind your two drops of oil in your spoon while admiring the beauties of the world.

In vibration terms: why raise the vibration, instead make sure your personal vibration (never mind the pitch) is coherent and in tune.

UT
Ps. I'm not being smart-a**ish, I just find simple things and parables help me in these issues. Acceptance of who, where and what one is, is quite important I think - the whole notion of ascending higher, might lure one away from it, thus being the very antithesis of what one is hoping to achieve.

[Callista]

Thank you UT - "chop wood, carry water" is my daily motto! - nothing like the everyday to bring you down to earth and attain some modicum of balance and harmony amid all the chaos!

much love
Callista

[araucaria]

I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade either, but honestly, ‘chop wood, carry water, pick berries’ strikes me as a very inadequate, retrograde approach that has got us this far but no further – although I have to say it is part of the picture too. The fact that we now have mains gas, electricity and water is partly why we have the leisure to think and meditate and realize that free energy also exists that can be tapped into. I am talking about free energy in general, which includes creative thought, the basis of everything.

If ascension is to mean anything, it has to mean a breakthrough moment whereby tomorrow is radically different from today, a quantum leap in our consciousness. It is a both rapid and gradual thing, but it is what makes the ‘future’ different from the ‘past’. It is the present ‘moment’, and the present moment may only be perceptible to us as an entire lifetime. Your entire lifetime has been leading up to this very moment; all is well. (To the extent that ‘chop wood, carry water' is an expression of that, I am happy with that.)

See this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post991210

[lunaflare]

My understanding of Ascension is that it is actually the descension and anchoring of higher vibrations into this 3D vibration of extreme physicality. Yes, I too support this view and experience. Thanks, Callista.

I would venture to say that "yes" you are expecting too much. And most likely you know this (given it is your query).
The expectant-seeking-meme can remove our focus from this body-soul-animated-intelligent-presence. Perhaps you could add "descension" to your avatar name. in the spirit of the spiral and the ebb and flow of remembrance and rediscovery...also takes the pressure off!

[Callista]

Posted by araucaria (here)
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade either, but honestly, ‘chop wood, carry water, pick berries’ strikes me as a very inadequate, retrograde approach that has got us this far but no further – although I have to say it is part of the picture too. The fact that we now have mains gas, electricity and water is partly why we have the leisure to think and meditate and realize that free energy also exists that can be tapped into. I am talking about free energy in general, which includes creative thought, the basis of everything.

If ascension is to mean anything, it has to mean a breakthrough moment whereby tomorrow is radically different from today, a quantum leap in our consciousness. It is a both rapid and gradual thing, but it is what makes the ‘future’ different from the ‘past’. It is the present ‘moment’, and the present moment may only be perceptible to us as an entire lifetime. Your entire lifetime has been leading up to this very moment; all is well. (To the extent that ‘chop wood, carry water' is an expression of that, I am happy with that.)

See this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post991210

I was referring to the Buddhist quote:

Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.

[idiit]

I thought I would start a new thread and see what others are experiencing and doing about their own "expectations".

imo cobra does a great job addressing this topic in his latest post:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2015/...mortality.html

[araucaria]

Posted by Callista (here)
I was referring to the Buddhist quote:

Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.

Yes, I know, dear Callista. But like any useful saying, this one is paradoxical and operates on multiple levels. It sees enlightenment from the viewpoint of the stillness and unchangingness of eternity, which is all very good except that from the viewpoint of our timebound earthbound existence what we read is that there is no difference between before and after. It states very explicitly that enlightenment is not going to change anything, which is a very similar message to the cabal’s, namely ‘We have got you where we want you, and there is no escape from that, you carry on chopping wood for us’. Hundreds of years of Buddhism have not changed that desperate pessimism, and indeed any ancient wisdom is for the same reason going to be inadequate if not applied in novel ways.

The alternative is to see the universe as a dynamic ongoing creative process where nothing is ever the same. The paradox to this approach, which might be summarized as ‘Do this, do that, do the other’, is that enlightenment is no longer seen as a particular moment, but as a constant backdrop to constant change. The fact of our reality is that we want and need huge change, and the cause for great optimism is precisely that change being the unfailing law of the game, change is what we get. All the time, where time exists.

[Callista]

Thank you Araucaria – I admire your ability to put your thoughts into words – I get pictures but sometimes the words are difficult to extract…

It is precisely the paradox that attracts me and has meaning for me. I do not see it as static because enlightenment is a continual process and, as you say, every day is different from the previous.

My other motto is

Change is the only Constant ☺