Corey Goode's claim of "time-regression"

[lightseeker]

Thank you Bill for the down loads regarding Michael Relfe, I glanced at some of his material and will take my time to read the downloads.
I have been following David Wilcock's interviews with Corey Goode through all eight episodes. I have found it very interesting to listen to Goodes testimony on his experiences. I believe that he believes he is telling the truth.

However I wonder why David Wilcock has not raised the issue of Michael Relfe's information. David claims that he is always very thorough in researching the backgrounds of his new whistleblowers thoroughly with his many sources. I would expect David to be aware of Michael Relfe books. I find this puzzling.

Perhaps this subject should be brought up regarding his interviews with Goode.

[PHennessey]

Posted by Agape (here)

4/most current human technologies experience malfunction or are otherwise rendered useless in presence of their time-space fields

You're probably right, but I am still feeling empty. Surely ETs know of our desire for confirmation of their presence and documentation of their words and actions, and if they desired, they could attenuate or eliminate this effect on our recording devices. I have a feeling that they don't want to be recorded and that this is the real reason.

Which brings us to Corey Goode. He has stated, with David Wilcock to back him up, that there would be "no point" in recording his interactions with the floating orb that transports him to elsewhere because people would accuse him of faking it. As if computer graphics are so powerful that there is no reason to attempt to record these events? This is piss-poor reasoning. If you are experiencing a phenomenon like this, and if you are not making every effort to record it or document it, you appear to me to be a fraud, or at the very least you are seriously deluded.

[araucaria]

I mentioned the novelist Robbe-Grillet above. Here is a lecture he gave in the US explaining the interweaving of fiction and autobiography from the perspective of one who is explicitly not pretending to proclaim ‘the truth’. His awareness of how this works is worth pondering by anyone claiming otherwise and/or their readers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYhfREWj-hg

One particular point I would pick out is his reference to structure, as defined by the philosopher Gilles Deleuze. He describes it as the interaction of two parallel axes, one of which has something missing, the other something in excess. Structure is the dynamic interplay of the two, process rather than fixed outcome. This can be applied to the simple diagrams I posted above, which can be much more complex than that. A simple analogy would be a game of musical chairs: n people running around n-1 chairs; no chair assigned to any particular individual, and one yet-to-be-designated individual with no chair at all. I am going to give an example of this on the other thread.

My own analogy for structure is as something organic such as a tree rather than architectural whereby a pre-established plan is followed to the letter. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post767799
Robbe-Grillet very clearly states the difference between the two. If you take a Borges story as the skeleton of a novel and try to flesh it out, the novel in progress will begin to work against, and transform, the original project or skeleton. Applying this lesson to the ‘real world’, one begins to understand how the best-laid plans of the cabal will always come a cropper. You can build a cathedral out of stone and it may stay up (we don’t hear about the ones that collapsed), but projects to engineer life will not work. Applying this lesson to the narrative of whistleblowers and the likes of Corey G., listen to Robbe-Grillet’s comments on his novel Le Voyeur, which is the narrator’s attempt at giving an innocent account of a sexual murder committed by himself. Not by chance, he is a door-to-door salesman selling wristwatches. In other words, he is selling, in the present tense, a version of time that does not actualize the past as the true present is bound to do, as explained below. For another example of this type of narrative, see https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post833954

If classical thought obtains structure by insulating a set of elements against change, a multiplicity is the paradoxical notion of the structure of pure change. Which is not a night where all the cows are grey, deleuzians ensure us: being is highly and intricately structured, only it cannot be accessed if one fits it within the premises–conclusion structure of logic, the subject–predicate structure of language, the terms–relations structure of mathematics or marxian dialectics. “Being, or Time, is a multiplicity” [6, p. 85]: actuality is classical ontology (the actual is logically consistent and spatial), the past is virtuality, i.e., structures of pure difference or multiplicities, and the future is the return of difference. “There is no present that does not actualize the past. It is all of the past that is actualized at every moment. The past that is actualized exists” [7, p. 52].
Time is not determined by space (in the sense of being represented by a time line), nor does it accord to the consistency requirement of logic; it has neither identity nor logical consistency — “a chronic non-chronological time” [8, p. 129]. The past can never be recomposed with instants or intervals since this would be to negate its specific mode of being. “We might as well look for darkness beneath the light.” [9, p. 181]. The future can never be the same as the past, because the past is not even identical with itself. http://www.academia.edu/1101127/The_...ntum_mechanics

[Constance]

Phennessy, I always used to have the same thoughts as you regarding solid evidence. Here is my perspective.
I always wondered why there was not a plethora of photographic/material evidence detailing everything regarding time travel, aliens, parallel universes etc until I had my own personal unexpected mind blowing experience.
During that sole experience (It was spontaneous and never happened again) it never even crossed my mind to take a photo or to bring back evidence. The reason? I could not find any reference points for what was happening. Imagine something happening that is completely outside of your frame of reference because it is so unexpected? I was so absorbed in the whole experience that it never even occurred to me that I would need to prove to someone else that it had happened.
Maybe I will share my own story one day here on Avalon but at this point in time, I feel extremely reluctant to do so due to all the reasons that people have outlined in this thread

[PHennessey]

I'm a little surprised to hear you say that. I think this is one of the few places where I feel safe to tell such a story.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by breal (here)
Maybe I will share my own story one day here on Avalon but at this point in time, I feel extremely reluctant to do so due to all the reasons that people have outlined in this thread

It is one thing to have doubts, to disbelieve ... for example, I personally doubt and dismiss much of what is written here on Avalon (and what I doubt seems to keep shifting, over time.)

But unless we have a substantial basis for disagreeing, I recommend that dissent or doubt be expressed with a gentle and tolerant attitude, with good humor, perhaps as a genuine question or two, appreciating that we all have delightful and diverse and changing experiences and awareness.

The negativity that is sometimes labeled as trolling, and indeed that label seems to fit well sometimes, is likely often not intentional disruption, but rather a common human response to protect self and others in one's "group" from what may seem like dangerous external deceptions or delusions. It seems to be a tendency that is part of being human, part of our strength and part of our weakness, part of what helps keep us divided and controlled, oh these many millennia.

[Constance]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by breal (here)
Maybe I will share my own story one day here on Avalon but at this point in time, I feel extremely reluctant to do so due to all the reasons that people have outlined in this thread

It is one thing to have doubts, to disbelieve ... for example, I personally doubt and dismiss much of what is written here on Avalon (and what I doubt seems to keep shifting, over time.)

But unless we have a substantial basis for disagreeing, I recommend that dissent or doubt be expressed with a gentle and tolerant attitude, with good humor, perhaps as a genuine question or two, appreciating that we all have delightful and diverse and changing experiences and awareness.

The negativity that is sometimes labeled as trolling, and indeed that label seems to fit well sometimes, is likely often not intentional disruption, but rather a common human response to protect self and others in one's "group" from what may seem like dangerous external deceptions or delusions. It seems to be a tendency that is part of being human, part of our strength and part of our weakness, part of what helps keep us divided and controlled, oh these many millennia.

Yes. I would dearly like to get beyond all that separates and divides us Paul.

I realise that people here on Avalon have the highest of intentions when it comes to getting to the truth however what I also feel after looking at another thread I explained here.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1002436

[Constance]

Posted by PHennessey (here)
I'm a little surprised to hear you say that. I think this is one of the few places where I feel safe to tell such a story.

Okay. Well, I will think about what you have said.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by breal (here)

Posted by PHennessey (here)
I'm a little surprised to hear you say that. I think this is one of the few places where I feel safe to tell such a story.

Okay. Well, I will think about what you have said.

I, too, have a story, intricately connected with the subject of time in general, which is so out-of-the-box-crazy (even by my own standards) that I've never told it publicly. This is a very safe place, but in my own case, as a sort of minor-semi-public figure, I have to go a little carefully. I'm kind of creeping up on it slowly.

[araucaria]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by breal (here)

Posted by PHennessey (here)
I'm a little surprised to hear you say that. I think this is one of the few places where I feel safe to tell such a story.

Okay. Well, I will think about what you have said.

I, too, have a story, intricately connected with the subject of time in general, which is so out-of-the-box-crazy (even by my own standards) that I've never told it publicly. This is a very safe place, but in my own case, as a sort of minor-semi-public figure, I have to go a little carefully. I'm kind of creeping up on it slowly.

All in your own... good time, Bill - looking forward to that.
Maybe it happened to a good friend of yours or something?