The Expanding Earth, Expanding Consciousness Theory // Neal Adams - The Growing Earth

[Hervé]

Posted by betoobig (here)
@Hervé
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So we are all theorizing here...
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Not quite:

One can always knit-pick about this or that because of this or that... it remains that there IS a Pacific Rim of Fire which coincide with a Pacific Ring of subduction zones... as well as very active Mid-Ocean Ridges.

... and the relative motion of continents with respect to each other first verified via laser beams and now corroborated with quasar-calibrated GPS positioning is kind of difficult to dismiss.

In short, that continents do move with respect to each other along directions concordant with Mid Oceanic Ridges vectors is no theory! Just factual

[Cidersomerset]

This interview is an extension of Andrews research into the subject
of the Expanding Earth Theory.It was done in between the two
vid links below, so is out of order but it does not matter that much
just pointing it out.

Neal adams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZC22-IU7qI

The Earth But Not As We Know It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOar3QGzNM

The Earth could be expanding

In the second half, we will look at the evidence that the earth is expanding.
A short look at the history of some thoughts on this -- as well as mentioning
Continental Drift and Plate Tectonics
A look at a short video by Neal Adams -- which many people have seen.
Research of Prof S Warren Carey as he realised the earth was expanding
Comprehensive research of James Maxlow
Discussion of Subduction
Stephen Hurrell's research regarding the large size of Dinosaurs and other life -
which suggests that the force of gravity was much reduced 150 million years ago.

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Explaining the Expanding Earth - With Peter Woodhead - Part 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=swCnPOi5qOU

Published on 12 Jun 2014

For the article by Peter Woodhead click:
http://tinyurl.com/expearthpw

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Explaining the Expanding Earth - With Peter Woodhead - Part 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9iIWYYNkgJQ

Published on 14 Apr 2015


In this second part, we discuss the idea of "Centre of Mass Force" and where it
might be. We also look at the effect of that on the force of gravity calculations near
the Earth's Surface. We also discuss the Jun 2014 revelations of an "undersea
ocean". Finally, we show a couple of examples of other bodies in the Solar System
venting water...

See associated article: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms...

See part 1 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCnP...

http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/clas...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/...
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/...

http://physics.stackexchange.com/ques...


http://i.livescience.com/images/i/000...

http://earthsky.org/space/new-ideas-a...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-env...

http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/10/huge...


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Science & Technology

[Cidersomerset]

Just a reminder of conventional Subduction zones and Continental drift theory.....

plate tectonics

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ryrXAGY1dmE

Earth's interior and plate tectonics

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0mWQs1_L3fA

Continental Drift: 3.3 Billion Years

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UwWWuttntio

Published on 20 Apr 2015
Watch 3.3 billion years of continental drift. Credits in the video.
For this mapped onto a globe, visit http://davidson16807.github.io/3billi...

Plate Tectonics in action

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cm5giPd5Uro

Uploaded on 25 Oct 2010
This animation shows the evolution of Earth's continents through the history of
macro-scale animal life on Earth, starting in the middle of the Ediacaran period,
some 600 million years ago.

Plate Tectonics Theory

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mB2pzhWUaiU

National Geographic Colliding Continents

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KCSJNBMOjJs

[betoobig]

"One could conclude from our understanding of information and spacememory (time) that the universe is expanding and accelerating because it is learning about itself and thus it requires more surfaces to store the holographic Planck information." Nassim Haramein

Why our earth will not function or behave like the entire Universe?

LOve...Evol

[Cidersomerset]

Why our earth will not function or behave like the entire Universe?

There is two ways of looking at this the nuts and bolts physical scientific way , or
the increasingly alternate scientific way where we may have manifested this reality
we are experiencing and none of this is real. Since that's a different part of the field,
we had better stick to the science we think/presume/are ? living in...LOL

This is an interesting subject and I'm still watching/listening to some of the vids
one point that interesting as I jut listed to it again and is why I'm posting now
is most of history is guesswork and theory even the original ancient continents
are only approximates. But the most recent Pangea does make sense from both
theories and how it fits so snugly on a smaller Earth and that the ocean plates are
much younger . Though this is countered in the conventional theory, its still
interesting what the researchers are hypothesising.





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Gondwana








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Aprox 26 mins in the Explaining the Expanding Earth - With Peter Woodhead - Part 1
Peter Woodhead says his theory "Steam powered Earth expansion and evidence of
this phenomena can see it all over the universe".

[Hervé]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

[Cidersomerset]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Aprox 21 mins in they are talking about there being ample internal water
to explain the earths oceans by expansion, then he says the current mantle
and volcanic processes and subduction theory is the same as in the vids in #23

Peter Woodhouse I think is basically saying the Earth was more or less the same
size for aprox 4 billion years , then as the frozen core heated and expanded it
caused the earth to expand, breaking up the fixed continent of Pangea , creating
the oceans from internal sources , rather than only the comet bombardment
theory. Which explains why the ocean floor is a lot younger than the original now
spread out fixed continent.

Obviously they go into more details and how it effected gravity for the dinosaurs to
grow so big. Its well thought out wether its right or not ? and Andrew Johnson is no
mug , but that does not mean they are right , just the conventional theory does not
answer all the questions they are asking.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9iIWYYNkgJQ

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About where all the water comes from, I wonder if this is a possibility?

I think this may answer your post on page one Selkie......




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Revealed:The vast reservoir hidden beneath the Earth's crust that holds as much
water as ALL of the oceans
Believed to be 400-600 kilometres (250-375 miles) beneath our feet
1.5 percent of the rock analysed comprises molecules of water
First time researchers have ever found ringwoodite, a mineral in the Earth's mantle
- after discovering it in a $20 diamond

Researchers say discover could have a 'profound' effect on our understanding on Earth

By Mark Prigg

Published: 22:36, 12 March 2014 | Updated: 14:21, 13 March 2014

Read more.........



Schematic partial cross section of the Earth showing the location of ringwoodite,
which make up approximately 60% by volume of this part of the transition zone.
The diamond containing the water-bearing ringwoodite inclusion found by
originated from approximately 500 km beneath the Earth's surface, where a large
mass of water may accumulate by the subduction and recycling of oceanic
lithosphere, into the transition zone.

If water exists in huge volumes beneath Earth's crust, it is bound to have a big
impact on the mechanics of volcanoes and the movement of tectonic plates.
'One of the reasons the Earth is such a dynamic planet is the presence of some
water in its interior. Water changes everything about the way a planet works,' said
Pearson.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz3jlcMwQm2
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[Selkie]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Herve', have you ever heard of Theodore Holden and his theory of how the earth was egg-shaped due to the axial alignment, before the collapse of the old, Saturnian system, when Saturn was the "sun" that sat motionless at the north pole?

Basically, he says that Saturn was at the north pole, along with Mars and Venus (I think), which pulled the earth into an egg-shape. All the continents were one, in the north, due to the tidal force of the axial alignment, and when that system split up, the earth collapsed, assumed it oblate-spherical shape, and the continents started to drift to where they are now.

[Delight]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Are you stating that subduction completely contradicts the expanding earth model? What about eduction?

Now let us consider some of the problems of the standard plate-tectonics model that, in fact, have motivated the search for an alternative model such as the expanding earth. One problem is how to move continents around (Kundt and Jessner 1986, Loper 1985, Lowman 1985a, Pavoni 1986, Runcorn 1980, Walzer and Maaz 1983). No good mechanism has been devised to push or pull them about. Further, recent evidence suggests that some of the continents have deep roots, going down as deep as 700 km (Kerr 1986, Lay 1988, Lowman 1985a). The movement of plates with such deep roots seems so incredible that a fixed-earth plate-tectonic model has recently been proposed that requires subduction zones which have not been suspected heretofore and for which there is little evidence (Lowman 1985b, Lowman 1986, Martin 1987, Schmidt and Embleton 1986).

Another difficulty is that both the African and the Antarctic tectonic plates are almost completely surrounded by spreading ridges with no significant subduction zones on their boundaries (Bevis and Payne 1983; Carey 1976, p. 57; Carey 1983c; Carey 1988, pp. 174-176; Karig 1978). Consequently, the subduction zones available to accommodate the spreading are not near by; and these expansion ridges themselves would have to migrate toward distant subduction zones. In fact, models of relative plate motions have not been unambiguously established yet, particularly for the circum-Pacific (Kamp and Fitzgerald 1987).

Finally, Carey has been most critical of the very concept of subduction (Carey 1976, pp. 16, 50, 54; Carey 1988, ch. 13). He has argued that typically slabs that are presumed to be thrust under plates show characteristics of tension rather than compression. And he has noticed that frequently there is little evidence of sediment accretion in subduction trenches. Chudinov also argues that evidence for subduction is weak and the phenomena observed in active marginal oceanic zones are best explained by "eduction" (extrusion of mantle material at the edge of the continental block) (Chudinov 1981). However, current plate-tectonic theory suggests that slabs are being pulled down by their own weight more than they are being pushed from the expanding ridge or by the force of plates gravitationally "sliding downhill" across the ocean floor from ridges to subduction zones (Jurdy 1987, Sekiguchi 1985, Spence 1986, Spence 1987). This can explain tensional characteristics frequently found in subduction zones. But, this does assume that oceanic plates which were less dense than the mantle when they emerged from the ridges have cooled sufficiently to become more dense than the mantle into which they are being reintroduced (Grow and Bowin 1975, Kerr 1988, Park 1988). Also it leaves unanswered what causes the low-density continental slab to descend under the Alps (Mueller and Panza 1986). Additional problems have been raised by Uyeda (1986). Subduction is a complex process involving an interplay of various forces that are difficult to quantify (Jarrard 1986). Unequivocal subduction models are difficult to affirm because subduction destroys most of its evidence; so little is yet known about its mechanics (Anderson 1981, Rea and Duncan 1986).

With respect to this problem, subduction models have been developed that let sediments be dragged under with the slab and even allow the downgoing plate to erode the overriding plate (Scholl et al. 1980, Scholl and Vallier 1983, Wortel and Cloetingh 1986). Recent surveys of the Japan Trench using Seabeam mapping, gravity and geomagnetic measurements, and seismic reflections seem to justify these models (Cadet et al. 1986; Cadet et al. 1987a,b; Kobayashi et al. 1987; Le Pichon et al. 1987). Little evidence of accretion was found, although a fractured seamount was discovered that appears to be "falling" into the trench. The landward plate seems to be "lifted" by the front edge of the seamount in such a way that suggests the seamount is being pulled under, i.e., subducted. Bivalve communities along the continental shelf indicate that water is being pressed from the subducted material, and this may "lubricate" the contact between the plates so that the oceanic slab with the seamount can slide under the continental plate with relatively little friction.

Still other difficulties with the standard plate-tectonics model have been published. For instance, "the geotectonic phenomena operating in the island arc regions are rather different from those assumed to now" (Wezel 1986b). Rocks rather than oceanic sediments in trenches, old material rather than young sediments in trench slopes, subsistence rather than uplift observed during subduction in trench margins, including the Japan Trench, and tensional rather than compressional characteristics in subduction zones are listed as evidence to support the above assertion. Also, "the origin of volcanism and high heat flow and the origin of back-arc basins are still 'basic unsolved problems' in the context of the subduction model" (Wezel 1986b). So Wezel claims that "the tectonic processes hypothesized by the present [tectonic] models do not correspond to the geological reality of the arc systems" (Wezel 1986b).

Studies on the lithosphere have noticed the paradox of a model that seems to require the continental crust to be like a "thick elastic plate" in the neighborhood of mountains yet in other contexts it is required to be weaker than the oceanic crust (McNutt 1987).

Finally, a week-long workshop on the lithosphere convened by the U.S. Geodynamics committee in 1982 noted that "no generally accepted models exist for the initiation of [subduction]", "rates and mechanisms of assimilation of models for the heating of subducted slabs¼[are] wholly inadequate¼", and "gravity profiles across subduction zones and the published geoid data do not reflect the thermally predicted excess mass" (Lithosphere 1983, pp. 28, 29).
EXPANDING EARTH?

Bill Mundy
Professor of Physics
Pacific Union College, Angwin, California

[Star Tsar]

Posted by Selkie (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)
Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Herve', have you ever heard of Theodore Holden and his theory of how the earth was egg-shaped due to the axial alignment, before the collapse of the old, Saturnian system, when Saturn was the "sun" that sat motionless at the north pole?

Basically, he says that Saturn was at the north pole, along with Mars and Venus (I think), which pulled the earth into an egg-shape. All the continents were one, in the north, due to the tidal force of the axial alignment, and when that system split up, the earth collapsed, assumed it oblate-spherical shape, and the continents started to drift to where they are now.

Forgive me for mis-understanding but do you mean in the North Star position Selkie?

[Selkie]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)

Posted by Selkie (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)
Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Herve', have you ever heard of Theodore Holden and his theory of how the earth was egg-shaped due to the axial alignment, before the collapse of the old, Saturnian system, when Saturn was the "sun" that sat motionless at the north pole?

Basically, he says that Saturn was at the north pole, along with Mars and Venus (I think), which pulled the earth into an egg-shape. All the continents were one, in the north, due to the tidal force of the axial alignment, and when that system split up, the earth collapsed, assumed it oblate-spherical shape, and the continents started to drift to where they are now.

Forgive me for mis-understanding but do you mean in the North Star position Selkie?

Yes, except that the axis of the earth would have been straight up and down, and not tilted like it is now.

Check out Thunderbolts

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

[loveoflife]

Here we go again, yet another alternate version of reality that makes sense and contradicts what we are generally told.

I suppose that you never have to many models of the earth and the the universe that we live in.

[Cidersomerset]

With all these vast dates its difficult to picture it overall.












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Various global maps thru the eons............

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...%20earth&hl=en

[Delight]

Cidersomerset,
Thanks for all your research as well as the others'!
I like this picture.



It is hard to mentally approach such vast scales. I am also aware as you said that perhaps we are imagining into appearing all of these models ourselves. My Pooh brain gets quite over awed but in a good way. It really puts my wee life in persepective. The mystery in the intricacy of the form of our Universe as we observe it is poetry. We can each can find and defend models because we obtain facts to fit. Then others do the same. There is always something that does not quite fit anyway.

LoveofLife said

Here we go again, yet another alternate version of reality that makes sense and contradicts what we are generally told.

I suppose that you never have to many models of the earth and the the universe that we live in.

I must spell a poem because it means something to me today.

Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
Life is but an empty dream!
For the soul is dead that slumbers,
And things are not what they seem.

Life is real! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal;
Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.

Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,
Is our destined end or way;
But to act, that each to-morrow
Find us farther than to-day.

Art is long, and Time is fleeting,
And our hearts, though stout and brave,
Still, like muffled drums, are beating
Funeral marches to the grave.

In the world’s broad field of battle,
In the bivouac of Life,
Be not like dumb, driven cattle!
Be a hero in the strife!

Trust no Future, howe’er pleasant!
Let the dead Past bury its dead!
Act,— act in the living Present!
Heart within, and God o’erhead!

Lives of great men all remind us
We can make our lives sublime,
And, departing, leave behind us
Footprints on the sands of time;

Footprints, that perhaps another,
Sailing o’er life’s solemn main,
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
Seeing, shall take heart again.

Let us, then, be up and doing,
With a heart for any fate;
Still achieving, still pursuing,
Learn to labor and to wait.
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

[Hervé]

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)
Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

What about eduction?
[...]

Eduction... interesting idea... however, if I follow it, I should be able to find pieces of Japan, Kamchatka, the Philippines, New Zealand, the Andes and the Rockies all the way back to the Pacific Mid Ocean Ridge... right?

By contrast, seismological data and the motion mechanism at earthquake rupture points (the "beach ball" graphs) are all in strong support of the subduction of oceanic slabs at continental margins affected by such series of earthquakes:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/data/slab/#models


Oceanic slab mapping under Japan:

Kamchatka/Kurils/Japan http://earthquake.usgs.gov/data/slab.../kur_slab1.jpg
Circles indicate recorded earthquakes and the lines indicate their depth of occurrence.

[BenzSolo]

How about our expanding consciousness and the Earths expanding consciousness. Food for thought. Schumanns Resonance points to this, which is the Earths brainwaves, NOT the Earths heartbeat.

[Cidersomerset]

How about our expanding consciousness and the Earths expanding
consciousness. Food for thought. Schumanns Resonance points to this, which is the
Earths brainwaves, NOT the Earths heartbeat.

A fun post , from what I'm learning about this ride...............

[IMG][/IMG]

We are none -physical , pure electrical energy beings living in a universe made
from Stardust and the frequencies of the spoken word and some imagination ......





Experiencing the physical of this intergalactic theme park carporial experience...
Because in non - physical we manifest and live in a bliss full state , so for
contrast we created the physical to experience the senses to be born , live and
die to return to the Astral plane.........





The Astral Plane....

[Cidersomerset]

Massive Underground Ocean Exists Beneath Earth's Crust, Study Says

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NYy9m_lBL60

Published on 13 Jun 2014

Scientists believe they've found evidence of a potential ocean beneath our home
planet's crust. A study from researchers at Northwestern University and the
University of New Mexico have concluded the body of water rests about 400 miles
underneath earth's crust and is so large it can fill all our oceans three times over.

Their research however indicates the water is not in the typical liquid, ice or vapor
forms, but instead, is trapped in mantle rock containing a blue mineral called ringwoodite.
Ringwoodite has a structure similar to crystal that acts like a sponge to trap liquid and
pull in hydrogen. Thus far only one small piece of ringwoodite has been brought to Earth's
surface from 400 miles underground by volcanic activity and was found to contain water
in solid form. The researchers combined lab experiments on mantle rock under high
pressure with seismic data measuring U.S. earthquakes to reach their conclusions.


The discovery is an important one as it will help scientists learn how the Earth formed
and its current composition. Northwestern geophysicist Steve Jacobsen, who is a co-author
of the study, commented "I think we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water
cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable
planet. Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades."

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News & Politics

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

All very intriguing. Needs further scrutiny, and more information, particularly a balanced counter-argument, but so far, there is nothing here that in any way 'offends' common reason, intelligence, or personally speaking, my sense of gathered knowledge on related subjects, which forms my view and understanding of things. It seems quite plausible!

I wonder, should someone post this info on...ahem, the flat earth thread to see what they say about it?

/runs