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    Default Re: Is Stephen Hawking a Clone?

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    <trim> ...I don't have the energy to read the article, but apart from his looks, how is it possible to find a person with the voice and musical talent of Paul McCartney that persist to this day? Three vital things that must be combined
    I want to know how it would be possible to replace someone with the voice of like say ... Mariah Carey! Now that would be a feat! Actually, there's an app for that ... here's what Mariah really sounds like with autotune and a plethora of other effects to make her sound "fabulous".

    In short, it's easy to fake talent if you have the right "app for that"


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    One cannot but admire the noble profession of impostor search. Obviously Mr Hawking would not have had to be replaced by just any impostor, but by an impostor having ALS! And considering that ALS patients die after on average four years and also the need not to constrain the population of available ALS-ailing impostors by the further condition that they should also be able to survive Mr Hawkind as long as his imposted "real" self has actually proved to be surviving, i.e. for about thirty years (as 2015 -±1985), it leads us to conclude that Mr Hawking’s impostor himself needed to be replaced after about four years (i.e. in 1989) by a new ALS-ailing impostor, he himself being culled from an ALS-ailing impostor population reduced by one high-quality unit! After another four years – i.e. by 1993 – the second impostor having died off, they needed another one, compounding the job even more... As I said, one cannot but admire those who had had to find them, considering that by now, (30 divided by 4 = ) about 7 ALS patient impostors have died in the wake of their great example, Mr Hawking himself. We hope that Mr Hawking will die sooner than they run out of any available ALS patient impostors, Mr Hawking himself excluded.
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    One cannot but admire the noble profession of impostor search. Obviously Mr Hawking would not have had to be replaced by just any impostor, but by an impostor having ALS! And considering that ALS patients die after on average four years and also the need not to constrain the population of available ALS-ailing impostors by the further condition that they should also be able to survive Mr Hawkind as long as his imposted "real" self has actually proved to be surviving, i.e. for about thirty years (as 2015 -±1985), it leads us to conclude that Mr Hawking’s impostor himself needed to be replaced after about four years (i.e. in 1989) by a new ALS-ailing impostor, he himself being culled from an ALS-ailing impostor population reduced by one high-quality unit! After another four years – i.e. by 1993 – the second impostor having died off, they needed another one, compounding the job even more... As I said, one cannot but admire those who had had to find them, considering that by now, (30 divided by 4 = ) about 7 ALS patient impostors have died in the wake of their great example, Mr Hawking himself. We hope that Mr Hawking will die sooner than they run out of any available ALS patient impostors, Mr Hawking himself excluded.


    Okay, okay, okay...bare with me ....but , what if they didn't replace him with an als patient, and just used a man who looks as broke down as hawking ? I mean, look at the hands of Hawkins now compared to then. And the voice is a program so that's no big prob either.

    I don't know if he is or not, I haven't made my mine up. Just bringing up another pov

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    He's just taken well care of , in my opinion. I've seen what they're capable of in the medical field nowadays , some of it are straight miracles but .. it all still costs too much and the 'cutting edge ' care is also reserved for few people really .
    Even among all the other patients with life threatening diseases there are all but few 'candidates' resilient enough to endure all the therapies .

    Medicine is not like maths really . Method or medicine that works with one person does not always have the same effect on others . Human organism really is very complex and complicated .
    Statistics exist for 'statistics office' sake but what happens in any individual case/life depends on the person and his environment a lot.

    The 'aftercare' really is the most important . I've seen how sometimes they perform very expensive surgeries .. and save lives .. but then people are sent back to their ordinary lives and the care they receive ( even if it's stamped by the state and medical protocols ) is really inadequate to their physical and mental shape ,
    so they have to spend themselves in order to survive .

    How many people still struggle to get something 'simple' such as good hearing aids or other prosthetic devices that would make them feel equal to healthy humans.
    How many people lack any good care , adequate to their diagnose .

    I think it's millions in every country . Most disabled people are left with very little money to strive on , some in mercy of families who aren't always medical professionals or social care services .

    And even if all the above was not true .. while it obviously, mostly is true , and everyone received the 'best care' and 'best assessment' , preferably from childhood ( now I'm talking of sheer utopia of course ) there would still be 'good cases' and 'failures' .

    Experimental treatments is really one thing .. and implications of them in reality and making them available to broader populace another .



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    Default Re: Is Stephen Hawking a Clone?

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    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    One cannot but admire the noble profession of impostor search. Obviously Mr Hawking would not have had to be replaced by just any impostor, but by an impostor having ALS! And considering that ALS patients die after on average four years and also the need not to constrain the population of available ALS-ailing impostors by the further condition that they should also be able to survive Mr Hawkind as long as his imposted "real" self has actually proved to be surviving, i.e. for about thirty years (as 2015 -±1985), it leads us to conclude that Mr Hawking’s impostor himself needed to be replaced after about four years (i.e. in 1989) by a new ALS-ailing impostor, he himself being culled from an ALS-ailing impostor population reduced by one high-quality unit! After another four years – i.e. by 1993 – the second impostor having died off, they needed another one, compounding the job even more... As I said, one cannot but admire those who had had to find them, considering that by now, (30 divided by 4 = ) about 7 ALS patient impostors have died in the wake of their great example, Mr Hawking himself. We hope that Mr Hawking will die sooner than they run out of any available ALS patient impostors, Mr Hawking himself excluded.


    Okay, okay, okay...bare with me ....but , what if they didn't replace him with an als patient, and just used a man who looks as broke down as hawking ? I mean, look at the hands of Hawkins now compared to then. And the voice is a program so that's no big prob either.

    I don't know if he is or not, I haven't made my mine up. Just bringing up another pov
    Exactly. The imposter could be a character actor, or just some poor guy who, like you say, Saint Theresa, is as broken down as Hawking was. No ALS patient look-alikes needed.

    It those teeth, man. The guy is not Hawking. The voice means nothing because its just a computer.

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    He's just taken well care of , in my opinion. I've seen what they're capable of in the medical field nowadays , some of it are straight miracles but .. it all still costs too much and the 'cutting edge ' care is also reserved for few people really .
    Even among all the other patients with life threatening diseases there are all but few 'candidates' resilient enough to endure all the therapies .

    Medicine is not like maths really . Method or medicine that works with one person does not always have the same effect on others . Human organism really is very complex and complicated .
    Statistics exist for 'statistics office' sake but what happens in any individual case/life depends on the person and his environment a lot.

    The 'aftercare' really is the most important . I've seen how sometimes they perform very expensive surgeries .. and save lives .. but then people are sent back to their ordinary lives and the care they receive ( even if it's stamped by the state and medical protocols ) is really inadequate to their physical and mental shape ,
    so they have to spend themselves in order to survive .

    How many people still struggle to get something 'simple' such as good hearing aids or other prosthetic devices that would make them feel equal to healthy humans.
    How many people lack any good care , adequate to their diagnose .

    I think it's millions in every country . Most disabled people are left with very little money to strive on , some in mercy of families who aren't always medical professionals or social care services .

    And even if all the above was not true .. while it obviously, mostly is true , and everyone received the 'best care' and 'best assessment' , preferably from childhood ( now I'm talking of sheer utopia of course ) there would still be 'good cases' and 'failures' .

    Experimental treatments is really one thing .. and implications of them in reality and making them available to broader populace another .


    For me, its the teeth...those horrible lower front teeth in the Hawking replacement. Its like they put this obvious replacement right in front of us, and no one can see it because people see what they expect to see. In this case, they expect to see the amazing and heroic Steven Hawking, when its really quite apparent that its not him.

    p.s. I didn't believe it at first, either. But when I saw the teeth, that was when I changed my mind.

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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    He's just taken well care of , in my opinion. I've seen what they're capable of in the medical field nowadays , some of it are straight miracles but .. it all still costs too much and the 'cutting edge ' care is also reserved for few people really .
    Even among all the other patients with life threatening diseases there are all but few 'candidates' resilient enough to endure all the therapies .

    Medicine is not like maths really . Method or medicine that works with one person does not always have the same effect on others . Human organism really is very complex and complicated .
    Statistics exist for 'statistics office' sake but what happens in any individual case/life depends on the person and his environment a lot.

    The 'aftercare' really is the most important . I've seen how sometimes they perform very expensive surgeries .. and save lives .. but then people are sent back to their ordinary lives and the care they receive ( even if it's stamped by the state and medical protocols ) is really inadequate to their physical and mental shape ,
    so they have to spend themselves in order to survive .

    How many people still struggle to get something 'simple' such as good hearing aids or other prosthetic devices that would make them feel equal to healthy humans.
    How many people lack any good care , adequate to their diagnose .

    I think it's millions in every country . Most disabled people are left with very little money to strive on , some in mercy of families who aren't always medical professionals or social care services .

    And even if all the above was not true .. while it obviously, mostly is true , and everyone received the 'best care' and 'best assessment' , preferably from childhood ( now I'm talking of sheer utopia of course ) there would still be 'good cases' and 'failures' .

    Experimental treatments is really one thing .. and implications of them in reality and making them available to broader populace another .


    For me, its the teeth...those horrible lower front teeth in the Hawking replacement. Its like they put this obvious replacement right in front of us, and no one can see it because people see what they expect to see. In this case, they expect to see the amazing and heroic Steven Hawking, when its really quite apparent that its not him.

    p.s. I didn't believe it at first, either. But when I saw the teeth, that was when I changed my mind.
    When people get old, their gums recede - in some cases a lot. This can turn short normal looking teeth into long gangly looking things. This happens to almost all of us with age and/or disease.

    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Is Stephen Hawking a Clone?

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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    He's just taken well care of , in my opinion. I've seen what they're capable of in the medical field nowadays , some of it are straight miracles but .. it all still costs too much and the 'cutting edge ' care is also reserved for few people really .
    Even among all the other patients with life threatening diseases there are all but few 'candidates' resilient enough to endure all the therapies .

    Medicine is not like maths really . Method or medicine that works with one person does not always have the same effect on others . Human organism really is very complex and complicated .
    Statistics exist for 'statistics office' sake but what happens in any individual case/life depends on the person and his environment a lot.

    The 'aftercare' really is the most important . I've seen how sometimes they perform very expensive surgeries .. and save lives .. but then people are sent back to their ordinary lives and the care they receive ( even if it's stamped by the state and medical protocols ) is really inadequate to their physical and mental shape ,
    so they have to spend themselves in order to survive .

    How many people still struggle to get something 'simple' such as good hearing aids or other prosthetic devices that would make them feel equal to healthy humans.
    How many people lack any good care , adequate to their diagnose .

    I think it's millions in every country . Most disabled people are left with very little money to strive on , some in mercy of families who aren't always medical professionals or social care services .

    And even if all the above was not true .. while it obviously, mostly is true , and everyone received the 'best care' and 'best assessment' , preferably from childhood ( now I'm talking of sheer utopia of course ) there would still be 'good cases' and 'failures' .

    Experimental treatments is really one thing .. and implications of them in reality and making them available to broader populace another .


    For me, its the teeth...those horrible lower front teeth in the Hawking replacement. Its like they put this obvious replacement right in front of us, and no one can see it because people see what they expect to see. In this case, they expect to see the amazing and heroic Steven Hawking, when its really quite apparent that its not him.

    p.s. I didn't believe it at first, either. But when I saw the teeth, that was when I changed my mind.
    When people get old, their gums recede - in some cases a lot. This can turn short normal looking teeth into long gangly looking things. This happens to almost all of us with age and/or disease.

    Yeah, but in the pics, the real Hawkins teeth are grey, rotted-down stumps. In the replacement Hawking, the teeth are long and ugly, but normal and healthy as you picture above.

    p.s. None of us can be absolutely, 100% sure that they have replaced Hawking, but if I was betting, I'd bet they replaced him with an imposter because the real Hawking died.

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    Default Re: Is Stephen Hawking a Clone?

    If it's true, as Jon Rappoport has indicated in several of his articles, many articles (up to 50%) in science and medical journals are hoaxed, then it doesn't seem too much of a stretch to hoax the scientists as well. And, don't forget, they apparently have biological robots as well that are very advanced. You can't tell they are really robots unless up very close. Interesting food for thought.

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    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)
    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    He's just taken well care of , in my opinion. I've seen what they're capable of in the medical field nowadays , some of it are straight miracles but .. it all still costs too much and the 'cutting edge ' care is also reserved for few people really .
    Even among all the other patients with life threatening diseases there are all but few 'candidates' resilient enough to endure all the therapies .

    Medicine is not like maths really . Method or medicine that works with one person does not always have the same effect on others . Human organism really is very complex and complicated .
    Statistics exist for 'statistics office' sake but what happens in any individual case/life depends on the person and his environment a lot.

    The 'aftercare' really is the most important . I've seen how sometimes they perform very expensive surgeries .. and save lives .. but then people are sent back to their ordinary lives and the care they receive ( even if it's stamped by the state and medical protocols ) is really inadequate to their physical and mental shape ,
    so they have to spend themselves in order to survive .

    How many people still struggle to get something 'simple' such as good hearing aids or other prosthetic devices that would make them feel equal to healthy humans.
    How many people lack any good care , adequate to their diagnose .

    I think it's millions in every country . Most disabled people are left with very little money to strive on , some in mercy of families who aren't always medical professionals or social care services .

    And even if all the above was not true .. while it obviously, mostly is true , and everyone received the 'best care' and 'best assessment' , preferably from childhood ( now I'm talking of sheer utopia of course ) there would still be 'good cases' and 'failures' .

    Experimental treatments is really one thing .. and implications of them in reality and making them available to broader populace another .


    For me, its the teeth...those horrible lower front teeth in the Hawking replacement. Its like they put this obvious replacement right in front of us, and no one can see it because people see what they expect to see. In this case, they expect to see the amazing and heroic Steven Hawking, when its really quite apparent that its not him.

    p.s. I didn't believe it at first, either. But when I saw the teeth, that was when I changed my mind.
    When people get old, their gums recede - in some cases a lot. This can turn short normal looking teeth into long gangly looking things. This happens to almost all of us with age and/or disease.

    Yeah, but in the pics, the real Hawkins teeth are grey, rotted-down stumps. In the replacement Hawking, the teeth are long and ugly, but normal and healthy as you picture above.

    p.s. None of us can be absolutely, 100% sure that they have replaced Hawking, but if I was betting, I'd bet they replaced him with an imposter because the real Hawking died.
    Teeth discoloration can be whitened by regular dental visits, it may take a few months, but even the caked-on grey appearance can be removed if done properly.

    Replacements or decoys can exist, sure, but Mathis' needs to show more evidence or plausibility before it can be taken seriously.
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    Default Re: Is Stephen Hawking a Clone?

    Personally I don't believe for a second that Hawking has been replaced, however I guess if it were true he'd be an easy place to start. I imagine it'd be a lot easier to replace someone who sits perfectly still, with no mannerisms, and has a computer generated voice

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