THE RULERS OF THE WORLD: a new Project Avalon video interview

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by xm15e2 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Eric! He confirmed:

• The reality of the plan to set up a false flag event to frame the ETs as hostile.
• Full details (with a rationale from the controllers' point of view) of the plan to reduce the world's population.
• Confirmation that the human race is an ET genetic project.
• Confirmation of ET reality, and the reality of their craft.
• A statement that the ET craft had been brought down deliberately (after one or two initial 'lucky hits' in the 1940s).
• Confirmation of the existence of the Mars base, and that we're poised to leave the solar system.
• Confirmation of the existence of the back-engineered man-made flying triangles.
• The existence of the controlling group, with details of their composition and modus operandi.
• Confirmation of artifacts on the moon, and confirmation that Arthur C. Clarke knew a great deal.
• Quite a bit more - about the way that the insiders operate, and how they think.

That's quite a good value for a whistleblower video - wouldn't you agree?

thank you bill, i agree and if he were to go into more detail, wouldnt it get to a point that it makes it unfair to them from his point of view?

I forgot to include:

• Confirmation that there's anticipated to be a peak of solar activity that might interfere with electrical circuits (in 2012 or 2013).
• Confirmation that the solar system is a binary system (i.e. that 'Planet X' is a reality).

[truth will win out]

Thanks Bill, I have to agree with viking all this is not new information at all...

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I forgot to include:

• Confirmation that there's anticipated to be a peak of solar activity that might interfere with electrical circuits (in 2012 or 2013).
• Confirmation that the solar system is a binary system (i.e. that 'Planet X' is a reality).

Yep and likewise publicly stated re that elec engineers wife? re power outtages, and as for Binary we all knew that too. I'm not dissing what Charles stated. merely stating its all known already

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by viking (here)
Don't want to sound ungrateful Bill, but most of this we already know...

Thanks

Viking

Eric - listen carefully:

You asked someone to list what was the 30% that we thought we knew in the alternative community that Charles confirmed was real.

So I told you. (It might be a little more than 30%, actually.)

Then you replied:

Don't want to sound ungrateful Bill, but most of this we already know...

Can anyone understand why the controllers laugh at the stupidity of the alternative community?

[SPIRIT WOLF]

LOL its a no win situation then Bill, Charles states those, we say we know, he says well yes its the 30% that are true LOl LOL Oh boy, here we go round the mulberry bush LOL

[Celine]

Ofcourse we can Bill...They laugh because their hearts...and ours...are NOT in the same place.

But please remember most of us are not seasoned players of this game..and are new on this playing field...

[Ahkenaten]

it is well to remember that more than likely PART of their intention is to sow dissension amongst us

[truth will win out]

I am still waiting for concrete proof that this man is who he says he is... So he is confirming 30% of information is true(Which in my opinon is a bit high), who is he to confirm or deny what is true and what is not.. I have not seen evidence that points to this man being The Real McCoy..
All my best
Truth

[xm15e2]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Eric - listen carefully:

You asked someone to list what was the 30% that we thought we knew in the alternative community that Charles confirmed was real.

So I told you. (It might be a little more than 30%, actually.)

Then you replied:



Can anyone understand why the controllers laugh at the stupidity of the alternative community?

yea, i agree, people are just realizeing its not new to them instead of realizeing hes basically acting as a alternative media traffic signal in other words, giving us very dim red and green lights on what we really know and should focus on, and what isnt really important that we should stop considering so real

[Fractalius]

I am not concerned to be told what is true and what is not. I have no desire to ask, I find out by listening to my heart. Pleading for more information and to be told what to believe to be true so as to focus on that is so amazingly hilarious imo too. So yes, I can understand WHY folk might laugh. I also understand how people can be so caught up laughing that they don't understand there is a reason for these jokes. Lulled into a false sense of security much? Even now, the litmus test may also give them amusement yet all is not what it might seem if you are watching.

[str8thinker]

Interesting that from Bill's last two posts there seems no doubt in his own mind that what Charles says is genuine, despite all the doubting Thomases, including myself. What Charles says appears to confirm what we have read or seen elsewhere, even if it is not new.

Yet what he has divulged so far is maddeningly unsatisfying to most of us. We need more from him, even if only to compare it with Kerry's point of view.

Bill I greatly appreciate the hard work you have put into this and the restraint you have shown throughout. No, I would not like Kerry or anyone else to be present at the next interview. My gut feeling is that Charles would clam up as soon as Kerry tries to do a Steven Greer on him. Bill's cautious approach, building on previous groundwork, is the correct one.

(My other posts on this interview are in the Q & A thread.)

[truth will win out]

Posted by Fractalius (here)
I am not concerned to be told what is true and what is not. I have no desire to ask, I find out by listening to my heart. Pleading for more information and to be told what to believe to be true so as to focus on that is so amazingly hilarious imo too. So yes, I can understand WHY folk might laugh. I also understand how people can be so caught up laughing that they don't understand there is a reason for these jokes. Lulled into a false sense of security much? Even now, the litmus test may also give them amusement yet all is not what it might seem if you are watching.

Well that sounds great, I follow my soul and and not my heart and mind. They both can be decieved to easily... They can control and manipulate your heart and mind.. Your soul is yours IMO.

[cloud9]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I forgot to include:

• Confirmation that there's anticipated to be a peak of solar activity that might interfere with electrical circuits (in 2012 or 2013).
• Confirmation that the solar system is a binary system (i.e. that 'Planet X' is a reality).

Thank you Bill, so this means this is the 30% that is true?
You see, each one of this points has so many ramifications.....
the one I see as tricky is the anticipated peak of solar activity, not that I don't believe it can be true, but I see it as earthquakes, which so far nobody is able to predict, so how would it be possible to predict something happening in the sun years in advance?
I know different agencies keep records of solar cycles and activity but still is like predicting earthquakes....

Do you think Charles would be willing to answer our many questions? Or at least a few chosen ones?

[Rhiannon]

hi all,

i've been reading through close to 50 pages by now and the main discussion seems to revolve only around the character of "charles", his relationship to bill and what his intentions might be... i think those aspects are either too personal or too vague to base a critical opinion on.

but i remember well "charles" said several times "not to take his word for it." so everything he said should easily be provable - or else.

also i have read many times that there was not so much "new" in this interview: well, good for you! see how well informed you are!... now, what are you going to do with this knowledge?

what has been said about the "33": i have no way of proving him right or wrong. have you? ... i guess i'll just drop that for the moment.

re 2012 - i don't know if anything is happening. i hope nothing too drastic. i can imagine a cosmic event happening, why not? must have happened before, and honestly, how could i absolutely surely know? i have to choose to believe someone. i'm not yet sure who's it going to be. but for all those of you who truly strongly believe: i hope it's going to be ascension, because if a cataclysm lies ahead i see hardly anyone prepared...

... and i mean it in the nicest possible way
rhi

[Fractalius]

Posted by truth will win out (here)
.. Your soul is yours IMO.

Oh yes, agreed. That was merely my turn of phrase. My use of words perhaps wrongly made for others ears but the intention was in reference to soul, higher self, light body, or however one wishes to describe it with appropriated words. More often than not the above, does not care for my wishes to understand truth as logic anyway. haha!

[Wood]

Posted by cloud9 (here)
Do you think Charles would be willing to answer our many questions? Or at least a few chosen ones?

He is probably reading all this. It would be nice if he could register here (nickname 'Charles'?) and start his own thread. That would be a little too democratic for the taste of the '33' though (difficult damage control).

[TheChosen]

Well.. there is no way to prove or disprove that Charles is who he says who is from our point of view. Obviously Bill has more information off record that makes him a lot more convinced that Charles is the real deal .. so let's continue with the assumption that it is so.

Personally I don't think we are told the entire story, the 33 may be a sort of an operational team under strict supervision from higher ET forces, but my experience tells me that humanity at this point is in no way allowed to rule itself.

I have one question at this point only. What is in it for them? Why should the 33 care about how the alternative community responds to this or try to open a dialogue?? Especially given the fact they have the technology to scan our minds at will.. I still don't see the benefit they are getting for allowing Charles to share this information or gauge the response. And make no mistake, at those levels they NEVER do anything unless it benefits someone's agenda.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Because the '33' know whistleblowers and insiders contact the 'alternative media' to disclose. They keep tabs on who says what and where and monitor all such public areas

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by str8thinker (here)
Interesting that from Bill's last two posts there seems no doubt in his own mind that what Charles says is genuine, despite all the doubting Thomases, including myself. What Charles says appears to confirm what we have read or seen elsewhere, even if it is not new.

Yet what he has divulged so far is maddeningly unsatisfying to most of us. We need more from him, even if only to compare it with Kerry's point of view.

Bill I greatly appreciate the hard work you have put into this and the restraint you have shown throughout. No, I would not like Kerry or anyone else to be present at the next interview. My gut feeling is that Charles would clam up as soon as Kerry tries to do a Steven Greer on him. Bill's cautious approach, building on previous groundwork, is the correct one.

(My other posts on this interview are in the Q & A thread.)

My opinion at the moment, based on the responses I've read so far on this forum and elsewhere, is that it's unlikely that Charles would do another interview, or that much more information (if any) would be sanctioned by the controlling group.

I talked with Charles on audio for over 30 hours during the four months before we met. I was moderately amazed that the interview happened at all - and again when it was approved.

For those of you who ask that proof be provided of who Charles is, do understand that I asked a lot of questions, and did a very great deal of careful listening, during those 30 hours of off-record conversation. That's a LOT of time.

Two other Avalon Forum members have also talked with him remotely, one other person has met him in person, and about half a dozen more still have exchanged e-mails with him. But it would be unreasonable to expect any of those people to come forward and say anything at all (unless they want to!) under the circumstances.

I think Charles did a fairly astonishing job given the pressure and constraints he was under, and what was at stake - and I also feel that I could not have done much better myself. There's no doubt in my mind that the opportunity was taken to test the temperature of the response - and also to see how I (and the alternative community) would handle the aftermath. We are left to guess what conclusions they may currently be drawing.

[Taurean]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
My opinion at the moment, based on the responses I've read so far on this forum and elsewhere, is that there is no way that Charles would do another interview, or that any more information would be sanctioned by the controlling group.

So that's what it's all about, OUR responses ?