Wave X is an attempt to enslave us in a Saturn Matrix

[greybeard]

You believe everything you believe--therefore, for you, everything you believe is true.
Therefore it makes sense to be careful what you chose to believe.
Its good to ask--"Is this so?"
In my own personal experience is this true?
If not, with virtually nil evidence, a story is bought into ---why is this?

Chris

[Star Tsar]

Ah thanks RunningDear in my defence I listen to alot of radio shows & inteviews in a week at least into double figures.
I mean't no harm or to cause no trouble just heard Wilcock, Goode & Bill put 2 & 2 together and came up with 3.14.
And Bill you know I just love you brother.

[Selkie]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)

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Posted by Gardener (here)
I think it is not our Bill she is refering to but the guy who interviewed the woman called Heather. I will go look for the interview.

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
Lily states that our very own Bill Ryan is part of the AI system (Not buying that!) in that sphere Allience video I asked her why she believes this.
I am yet to recieve an answer!
Which is no suprise to me.

Was it not Lisa Harrison that interviewed Heather (did not watch it) its either her reply to that video or the second one in the op... (post update that is the reply video I am rewatching now)
I am sure I heard her say Bill Ryan is AI I was so shocked at this claim and I asked her on a social networking site
I will have to re-watch both to be able to tell you


I may well be mistaken if so please forgive me

I don't seem to be able to find it so I guess I will have to retract my statement and humbly apologize

Everyone makes mistakes. The important thing is that one corrects oneself when one does.

[Delight]

Posted by greybeard (here)
To my mind the name Lilly Earthling is very New Age.
Its like a fashion statement of I am this kind of person.
Im with Dan--the answer to everything that you ever need to know is to be found inside through meditation---in that, the Truth of one Self is found there, this found then all else becomes irrelevant, of no real consequence.
What you are, in Truth, can not be enslaved--that is just a story.
The question is ---Why would you want to take some one else’s word for this?

Chris

I agree with Chris!

IMO there is always a new star(let) to watch.
1. Free material
2. Gain an audience and interviews...more exposure, bigger audience
3. Watch for the book and or Gaiam show
4. If BIG enough LONG enough, may become a full fledged cult leader.

Round And Round And Round we go where we stop nobody knows

[Selkie]

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
To my mind the name Lilly Earthling is very New Age.
Its like a fashion statement of I am this kind of person.
Im with Dan--the answer to everything that you ever need to know is to be found inside through meditation---in that, the Truth of one Self is found there, this found then all else becomes irrelevant, of no real consequence.
What you are, in Truth, can not be enslaved--that is just a story.
The question is ---Why would you want to take some one else’s word for this?

Chris

I agree with Chris!

IMO there is always a new star(let) to watch.
1. Free material
2. Gain an audience and interviews...more exposure, bigger audience
3. Watch for the book and or Gaiam show
4. If BIG enough LONG enough, may become a full fledged cult leader.

Round And Round And Round we go where we stop nobody knows

Very well put, Delight, and thank you.

And thanks to Chris, too.

[Selkie]

I agree that AI is very bad for us, and may even have it in for us, but all that parsing of in-groups and out-groups is repellant to me. John Lamb Lash does the same thing, and I think it is repugnant.

[Gardener]

Thank you for finding that, 'RD'

Clarification, it's not Bill Ryan that Lily Earthling speaks of. Here's my two posts from August 1, 2015 on "The Blog of The Runier...":
post #410

Chris & Dan
Just to say that Lilly Kolosowa says the same thing as you, the answers are all within, she calls it 'internal bio-regenesis' not out there with some saviour, ie sphere alliance, etc. The name 'earthling' has a kinda special meaning for her, which refers to not being anything special or from extra terrestrial. For instance some say they want to 'go home' meaning home planet, leave the earth. It isn't anything 'new-age' as such, just down to earth, belong here. I have to admit to also being grounded in earth.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Gardener (here)

Chris & Dan
Just to say that Lilly Kolosowa says the same thing as you, the answers are all within, she calls it 'internal bio-regenesis' not out there with some saviour, ie sphere alliance, etc. The name 'earthling' has a kinda special meaning for her, which refers to not being anything special or from extra terrestrial. For instance some say they want to 'go home' meaning home planet, leave the earth. It isn't anything 'new-age' as such, just down to earth, belong here. I have to admit to also being grounded in earth.

Perhaps she's referring to data "within her mental" material. When one truly looks within, through deep meditation, one finds "IT's own truth"...

[greybeard]

Posted by Gardener (here)
Thank you for finding that, 'RD'

Clarification, it's not Bill Ryan that Lily Earthling speaks of. Here's my two posts from August 1, 2015 on "The Blog of The Runier...":
post #410

Chris & Dan
Just to say that Lilly Kolosowa says the same thing as you, the answers are all within, she calls it 'internal bio-regenesis' not out there with some saviour, ie sphere alliance, etc. The name 'earthling' has a kinda special meaning for her, which refers to not being anything special or from extra terrestrial. For instance some say they want to 'go home' meaning home planet, leave the earth. It isn't anything 'new-age' as such, just down to earth, belong here. I have to admit to also being grounded in earth.

Not having studied what she says I cant disagree or agree but to be clear I am not referring to data--channelled or internal mind stuff.
Many give segments of truth to add to their credibility.
The Truth I refer to is simple and as referred to by Jesus and every other enlightened being "Find ye first the Kingdom of heaven and all things will be added unto you" the kingdom being within.
Often referred to "Know thy Self"
The "One without another" you are That---The Eternal awareness that sees everything come and go without being changed or affected by the vicissitudes of life. Nothing can threaten this---that's a joke.

If you want to you can check this out all by your self.
The awareness that is aware now is exactly the same as the awareness when you were born---it just is--cant be denied.
There is no proof that there is a Wave X though its a nice thought that its coming to upgrade human consciousness and evolve us.

Enslave us in a Saturn Matrix?
Well be careful what you believe--you are powerful beyond belief and capable of manifesting in your own life what you believe to be so.

Chris

[Daozen]

Just an idea here:

If anyone wanted to write more detailed notes, or a 'best of' transcript here's a Pirate Pad:

http://piratepad.net/j3u6xcaNtj

I may help myself when I get time, it looks like she's made some good points.

[RunningDeer]

I noticed that I’m becoming more reticent to express views because it takes time and energy to defend rather than openly share. That saddens me because it’s not in my nature to live that way for the last 60+ years personally nor professionally. And yes, I take full responsibility that I see it that way until I chose to see it differently.

I’ve listened to all of Lily Earthling’s videos, some two and three times. Most I’ve downloaded and transcribed. Lily chose that name simply because she’s connected to Mother Earth. She’s an ‘Earthlings’ because she’s ‘here and now’ sharing her point of view in attempts to make a difference in her unique, stylized way. Sometimes when I read the comments from those that have not given but a cursory listen or read, I cringe.

Respectfully,
RunningDeer ♡

[Daozen]

A lot of it comes down to people's time, Running Deer. A lot of us are busy. When I see an hour long video I like to look at a transcript first so I can see if I want to watch it. Why do you let other people's comments affect you?

I look forward to watching it.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
Ah thanks RunningDear in my defence I listen to alot of radio shows & inteviews in a week at least into double figures.
I mean't no harm or to cause no trouble just heard Wilcock, Goode & Bill put 2 & 2 together and came up with 3.14.
And Bill you know I just love you brother.

In your defense, I thought the same about the "Bill" thang when I first heard it. Which is why I posted on two other threads besides this one. English is Lily's second language. Her sentences and her thoughts sometimes run together. Which is why I have to transcribe them for myself. xo

[Selkie]

Posted by Daozen (here)
A lot of it comes down to people's time, Running Deer. A lot of us are busy. When I see an hour long video I like to look at a transcript first so I can see if I want to watch it. Why do you let other people's comments affect you?

I look forward to watching it.

This is true for me. I simply do not want to sit through most videos, or listen to most podcasts. To my mind, they are tedious beyond belief. Most speakers pad out what their messages much too much, and could condense their material down to no more than 15 or 20 mins, if they were honest about it.

[Daozen]

Posted by Selkie (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)
A lot of it comes down to people's time, Running Deer. A lot of us are busy. When I see an hour long video I like to look at a transcript first so I can see if I want to watch it. Why do you let other people's comments affect you?

I look forward to watching it.

This is true for me. I simply do not want to sit through most videos, or listen to most podcasts. To my mind, they are tedious beyond belief. Most speakers pad out what their messages much too much, and could condense their material down to no more than 15 or 20 mins, if they were honest about it.

That's why I'm transcribing it right now. It's kind of enjoyable... She swears like a sailor.

http://piratepad.net/j3u6xcaNtj

[Selkie]

Posted by Daozen (here)

Posted by Selkie (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)
A lot of it comes down to people's time, Running Deer. A lot of us are busy. When I see an hour long video I like to look at a transcript first so I can see if I want to watch it. Why do you let other people's comments affect you?

I look forward to watching it.

This is true for me. I simply do not want to sit through most videos, or listen to most podcasts. To my mind, they are tedious beyond belief. Most speakers pad out what their messages much too much, and could condense their material down to no more than 15 or 20 mins, if they were honest about it.

That's why I'm transcribing it right now. It's kind of enjoyable... She swears like a sailor.

http://piratepad.net/j3u6xcaNtj

LOL...so do I! I like it when people cuss and swear.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Daozen (here)
A lot of it comes down to people's time, Running Deer. A lot of us are busy. When I see an hour long video I like to look at a transcript first so I can see if I want to watch it. Why do you let other people's comments affect you?

I look forward to watching it.

Ha! That’s the $64 question, Daozen and something I usually ask others.

But to answer..."Why do you let other people's comments affect you?"

"Because I haven't learn how not to," she replied. "My goal is to live without a thick skin. Until I see it differently, vulnerability is one of the side effects."

Here comes the disclaimer…I’m a work in progress. But, happy to report more steps forward than backward because of honesty to self-reveal.




♡

[greybeard]

What I point to is very basic logic
Can anyone prove to me how we can be enslaved in a Saturn Matrix?

I have reasonable doubt because in essence we are formless --I can prove that.
Our body is our temporary home, yet scientists can not locate where we actually are in the body.
Many have no problem believing that we are spirit and that when the body dies we leave.
In essence we have no substance, you cant touch formless---nor can you capture it.
Its a little similar to space, you cant hurt it, hit it, even confine it--it is within every atom and without at the same time--its where intelligence lies.
Every atom in your body is exactly where it is supposed to be due to divine intelligence but thats another story.

You can seem to capture air/space within a jar but the air is the same within the jar as outside and within every molecule of the jar itself.

I could go on but the idea that we can be enslaved, in our true reality, is built on a false premise that all we are is human.
No we are spirit having a human experience.

There is nothing to fear.

Chris

[truthseekerdan]

For those who want to know more about the "deal regarding Saturn", I would suggest watching Santos Bonacci's presentations to learn more...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=D_sEKLzLeoQ

[Delight]

I do spend the time listening to many spokespeople. The OP here is about more enslavement. ’I see that there is something in these speakers words that is true and sweet from someone who says she knows Gaia. You have to listen to much of what Lily says to see the fact that she is in her own mental landscape and afraid and projects onto her world. Why follow her and all of the pressured spokes people??? She presents as being wholesome like the word Earthling...nostalgic, and scented evocative Lily and and in the center of her message when the bite is taken, there is the threat swallowed to believe our very existence is threatened.

How dare they say our existence is threatened. I am frankly angry that anyone would be taken in.

We have access to the inherited wisdom of man in libraries and they are all opinions. The systems like Astrology and Kabbalah and all have every year more books of commentary. People interpret and reinterpret and ascribe meaning and no two people have the same opinions.

I wish that people would grok Chris' message that sitting and contemplating is kind of a pre-requisuite because it stills the churning frazzlement of bombarding mental static.

I am really sick and tired of the charade of the new and improved disaster from the expert of the day. The propaganda favoring the disaster of the week and what force is coming to take us away feeds the machine. We built this machine of mental illusions.

It is so pitiful and so un-necessary because we will not live forever in these bodies because we inhabit the physical. Bodies are space suits to feel and hug the world. There is a waste of our possibility because we languish in this obsession. What ideas build confidence and new energy?

I am sick and tired of graphs and charts of cobbled together bits and pieces presented as profound. If you need charts and graphs, make some yourself as they will be just as true. Models and maps are not the territory.

I am so happy today about the ideas that arise from feeling the Presence of well being.
We never die and we are not victims of ANYTHING but as Chris says it very well, we BELIEVE and then we experience accordingly.