Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

[Delight]

Posted by bsbray (here)
Shane ("the Ruiner") seems to have a Kurt Cobain syndrome to me. He says he doesn't want attention, and "all but begged" everyone to stop reading his blog except for his group of followers (as if he couldn't post his info on a private forum, which I even offered to set up for him -- though he noted that every time he tells people to stop reading his blog his views go up), and then he turns around and does an interview with Kerry Cassidy. I suppose this is only for his group of followers as well, and nobody else is supposed to watch it.

The very first blog he did is now Be-Lied by this thoroughly insipid interview with no details. For instance he claims he is a communicator. His communication here was a waste.

Was what he said he experienced touching me as "TRUE"? (Some will say he sheilded)
So am I to believe he was real because he was insipid and flippant and vague??

I am very interested in the history of previous 'men" and I think they were gigantic in size at one point. He said they called themselves "giants". What he gave was only SO LIKE VERY POORLY WRITTEN FICTION. (Will some say that because "he will be in danger", he cannot tell us anything?)

He has given nothing to make me think he is what he says he is....and says what makes me think he is like all the rest building some "career" in "exobull"

Working actor said:

' colorless flippancy.

He made "talking to giants telepathically" sound like going to 7-11 for a pack of cigarettes. That crack about hating blonde women because he saw so many being tortured was WAY OFF, people. He talks of using portals to go offworld like it's nothing. sorry, no. HELL no. I'm an actor and a vo artist. this means, I'm pretty well-versed in human behavior. Being an actor requires it to be any good at it. There was nothing "right" about how shane responded to these questions. At the very least, I was looking for that "world-weary" tone that those who have seen and participated in major things have. ask a war vet; you see it in them. They've "seen things" that others never do. I sensed NONE of that in shane.

All I heard was a guy telling stories."

Also, please note more Niburu Planet X Rendevous with AstroPlanetology expert vaguely supported by the Ruiner.
We are sent to another source who will be very popular now. Ruiner will let us know of his next project (album, book, film?)

Vague outline of coming attraction:

In August 2016, while the Rio Olympics is on, the world will go into smoke and darkness from the iron oxide smog of Planet X.

Implications
1. Famine and all the subsequent violent response
2. Darkness and continued smog of iron oxide with loss of ability of agriculture, animal husbandry
3. Loss of worldwide communication
4. The "Jin" will be forced to earth (deep earth) (not sure what he means)?
5. OF COURSE we will have global control of whoever is left for the sake of survival

This is the tribulation. It will be hellish. BUT don't feel bad. The end of the world will occur until Jesus returns in a bright cloud to restart the "Beautiful new world". SERIOUSLY.

The story I read in the pdf made my heart sink. That is even though I am disbelieving. What will it do for those who are already believing that SOMETHING is coming? I suspect there will be lots more IMPLICATIONS to read and hear and think about and prepare for and angst over....

Maybe the implication is that we'd be better off to just die now? Maybe we should all try to get ito the bunkers. Whatever, try stocking storing and most of all make your tribal bonds NOW and be prepped and ready. Or like the grasshopper, you will be sorry.

[Delight]

Posted by Shane (here)
bsbray.. I was quite clear as to why I was doing the interview despite having not wanted the attention. Many people have asked me to continue writing and start speaking since the blog concluded and I have agreed.

Thanks for listening, or not listening, for commenting, or not commenting, for enjoying what I have to say and for saying I am full of BS.

With love and respect,

And with respect for myself and for you, I am certain that the hard questions are the ones that need to be stressed. There have been patterns of alt community liars who waste the energy we could be using elsewhere. Yes, MY attention is energy. Others' attention is energy. Just because someone claims they are an experience r, we want to hear becaue WE have experience. I am seriously questioning the use of my energy (and ALL others) I have given to all the "informers". Is this being scooped up in a nice looshly stuffed package?

I am sorry if I seem rude. I could never be n interviewer because no one would like my questions.
No personal affront meant...and I am just pointig out a strange what not.
I read your defense of your performance. It did not make me feel guilty. Maggie

In your very first blog you stated

What happens when people come out with information like this is all sorts of people begin to follow the speaker. Then the ego takes over and the speakers story grows. Next thing you know they are all over all the radio stations and doing interviews all the while claiming they don't want to do so.

It's quite simple. If you don't want to.. Don't.

I don't want to, so I won't. If someone would like to interview me under this name (The Ruiner) that would be fine, but I am not going to tell the world who I am, because I do not want the followers.

Now that this much is clear the reason I am sure most would assume as my reason for being anonymous is to protect myself from the Illuminati or Cabal. I don't need to do that, they know I am writing here, and they don't care. Who is going to listen anyways? No one.

They know as well as I do that unless I embrace the celebrity of being a "whistleblower" that this blog will be generally ignored.

So You have changed the tune

[Carmody]

In the wold of disclosure and secrets ---that which functions, with regard to exposure, dies or is killed. Sometimes immediately.

Ie, less than 24 hours is possible, depending on the nature of the threat and the given effectiveness of said threat.

[Ewan]

Every so often someone pops up claiming this and that, and as far as I can see all they do is divide opinion until they fade away and are replaced by the next one.

I'm avoiding them from now on as I can't see what good they possibly do irrespective of authenticity.

[Shannon]

Delight, I like you're honesty in your post. I don't see feel that honesty when I read the ruiners (Shane's) posts, I'm going to be honest and say I don't believe him. Respectfully, I don't see why I should believe anyone who doesn't care if you believe them or not, if they cared enough to put their life in jeopardy, they would want the truth to believed and back that up passionately with evidence, names, places and whatever else is asked. You're life is already on the line, give it all or nothing, it's not the time to half step. Now combine that with the vague, non detailed, answers from someone who says they are connected to a bloodline where mindf***ing and torturing each other is like me kissing my husband good morning.

Yet, I follow, (not to be confused with "following") I don't believe, I consider his words and listen to the story...

I could be one hundred percent wrong as well and I'm humble enough to always remind myself that sometimes sh*t just comes out of left field.

* sorry for the language!

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Coming out as a "whistleblower" seems to have become a fad in the last few years. Just because of the nature of the whole thing, people don't expect to be able to validate what they're hearing/reading, and it becomes literally like a religion, with people believing based on nothing but faith and maybe claims of some kind of intuition which itself wouldn't stand up to critical questioning.

When every other whistleblower either contradicts everyone else in the details, or else they just keep vetting and referring back to one another's work, creating a big circular argument, the whole scheme loses that much more credibility to me. There can be totally legit whistleblowers out there that have 20 people riding their coat tails and copying information from each other, until finally anyone paying attention to all of them doesn't know where up and down are anymore when the details start diverging and the drama erupts.

All of these kinds of discussions just remind me why empirical science, logic and critical thinking used to be valued so much in western society.

[greybeard]

Posted by Anakie (here)
Every so often someone pops up claiming this and that, and as far as I can see all they do is divide opinion until they fade away and are replaced by the next one.

I'm avoiding them from now on as I can't see what good they possibly do irrespective of authenticity.

Just now and then Anakie? I wish!!!

There seems to be a never ending stream of story tellers--true or false? I have no way of knowing but regardless the story is similar, in that we need to watch out, or something will get us.

I suspect that humans have a need to feel insecure and threatened---looking for a hero who knows and will save us.
Co-dependence big time.

I think it all started with the nursery rhymes that we are fed by well intentioned parents, but on examination,seems its all about, watch out, be good, do what you are told, or else the bogey man will get you.

Chris

[Shane]

And with respect for myself and for you, I am certain that the hard questions are the ones that need to be stressed. There have been patterns of alt community liars who waste the energy we could be using elsewhere. Yes, MY attention is energy. Others' attention is energy. Just because someone claims they are an experience r, we want to hear becaue WE have experience. I am seriously questioning the use of my energy (and ALL others) I have given to all the "informers". Is this being scooped up in a nice looshly stuffed package?

I am sorry if I seem rude. I could never be n interviewer because no one would like my questions.
No personal affront meant...and I am just pointig out a strange what not.
I read your defense of your performance. It did not make me feel guilty. Maggie

In your very first blog you stated

What happens when people come out with information like this is all sorts of people begin to follow the speaker. Then the ego takes over and the speakers story grows. Next thing you know they are all over all the radio stations and doing interviews all the while claiming they don't want to do so.

It's quite simple. If you don't want to.. Don't.

I don't want to, so I won't. If someone would like to interview me under this name (The Ruiner) that would be fine, but I am not going to tell the world who I am, because I do not want the followers.

Now that this much is clear the reason I am sure most would assume as my reason for being anonymous is to protect myself from the Illuminati or Cabal. I don't need to do that, they know I am writing here, and they don't care. Who is going to listen anyways? No one.

They know as well as I do that unless I embrace the celebrity of being a "whistleblower" that this blog will be generally ignored.

So You have changed the tune

Quite simple... Don't read. Don't listen. You are spending much more energy writing this, than it would take for you to ignore me

It wasn't meant to make you feel guilty, it was simply honest.

Did I post anything I wrote here? Did I post the interview here? Am I responsible for the choices of others?

Should I not speak or write for those who wish me to because some others do not?

Yes my intention has changed, and I stated why in the interview and above. Is that somehow wrong of me too?

If my writing a blog, which is well within my rights, is a distraction to you, then I do apologize. Again, choose not to read it, or comment on this thread. Simple. Some people do enjoy it, and that is why I have decided to continue.

With love and respect,

[Mike]

Posted by bsbray (here)
Shane ("the Ruiner") seems to have a Kurt Cobain syndrome to me. He says he doesn't want attention, and "all but begged" everyone to stop reading his blog except for his group of followers (as if he couldn't post his info on a private forum, which I even offered to set up for him -- though he noted that every time he tells people to stop reading his blog his views go up), and then he turns around and does an interview with Kerry Cassidy. I suppose this is only for his group of followers as well, and nobody else is supposed to watch it.

Very true.

It's the formula these days - act coy and reticent. The "reluctant hero". Then slowly come to the forefront.

I don't mind saying that I said this would happen a long time ago. It's as predictable as can be.

[Delight]

Posted by Shane (here)

And with respect for myself and for you, I am certain that the hard questions are the ones that need to be stressed. There have been patterns of alt community liars who waste the energy we could be using elsewhere. Yes, MY attention is energy. Others' attention is energy. Just because someone claims they are an experience r, we want to hear becaue WE have experience. I am seriously questioning the use of my energy (and ALL others) I have given to all the "informers". Is this being scooped up in a nice looshly stuffed package?

I am sorry if I seem rude. I could never be n interviewer because no one would like my questions.
No personal affront meant...and I am just pointig out a strange what not.
I read your defense of your performance. It did not make me feel guilty. Maggie

In your very first blog you stated

What happens when people come out with information like this is all sorts of people begin to follow the speaker. Then the ego takes over and the speakers story grows. Next thing you know they are all over all the radio stations and doing interviews all the while claiming they don't want to do so.

It's quite simple. If you don't want to.. Don't.

I don't want to, so I won't. If someone would like to interview me under this name (The Ruiner) that would be fine, but I am not going to tell the world who I am, because I do not want the followers.

Now that this much is clear the reason I am sure most would assume as my reason for being anonymous is to protect myself from the Illuminati or Cabal. I don't need to do that, they know I am writing here, and they don't care. Who is going to listen anyways? No one.

They know as well as I do that unless I embrace the celebrity of being a "whistleblower" that this blog will be generally ignored.

So You have changed the tune

Quite simple... Don't read. Don't listen. You are spending much more energy writing this, than it would take for you to ignore me

It wasn't meant to make you feel guilty, it was simply honest.

Did I post anything I wrote here? Did I post the interview here? Am I responsible for the choices of others?

Should I not speak or write for those who wish me to because some others do not?

Yes my intention has changed, and I stated why in the interview and above. Is that somehow wrong of me too?

If my writing a blog, which is well within my rights, is a distraction to you, then I do apologize. Again, choose not to read it, or comment on this thread. Simple. Some people do enjoy it, and that is why I have decided to continue.

With love and respect,

I think this is asking me to stop being involved in the information. I have heard that a lot. Just go with what resonates and leave the rest.

One example is about giants. I have been researching the history of other humanoids on the earth and seek real sources of knowledge to tie together information.
Information is all entangled between true and false. How to untangle it is an exercise.

I humbly disagree that JUST to ignore you is what I need at this time.
IMO in principle there is a funneling of attention towards dead ends that are not fulfilling of possibility for knowing the truth.

Since I have been on PA, I have been a writer and I never claimed that I am interested in being ignored. When people ignore me, I am not attached to it but I do have a strong POV. What I wish to find in a forum is meaningful discussion of ideas. I may be incorrect and more seek a response to show me my lack of veracity.

You are responsible for the content of your interview. If NO ONE had listened, you would have no purpose for being interviewed. So all I can say is that you invited an audiene and I am part of that audience.

IMO, the response you give to me sounds like others I have heard. "I just want an egregore", not a discussion among equals.

[Shane]

Posted by Delight (here)
I think this is asking me to stop being involved in the information. I have heard that a lot. Just go with what resonates and leave the rest.

One example is about giants. I have been researching the history of other humanoids on the earth and seek real sources of knowledge to tie together information.
Information is all entangled between true and false. How to untangle it is an exercise.

I humbly disagree that JUST to ignore you is what I need at this time.
IMO in principle there is a funneling of attention towards dead ends that are not fulfilling of possibility for knowing the truth.

Since I have been on PA, I have been a writer and I never claimed that I am interested in being ignored. When people ignore me, I am not attached to it but I do have a strong POV. What I wish to find in a forum is meaningful discussion of ideas. I may be incorrect and more seek a response to show me my lack of veracity.

You are responsible for the content of your interview. If NO ONE had listened, you would have no purpose for being interviewed. So all I can say is that you invited an audiene and I am part of that audience.

IMO, the response you give to me sounds like others I have heard. "I just want an egregore", not a discussion among equals.

Whether or not you read, or listen, is your choice. Not mine. I did not ask to be interviewed or to be read. If there were no audience, I wouldn't mind. This forum and others like it are generally good places for "a discussion among equals."

With love and respect,

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DNA (here)
There is no color, detail or texture in the recount of the Ruiner.
The narrative is so generalized, nothing specific.
With all due respect, I'm calling bullsh!t on the ruiner.

He has to be general. Anything else is too dangerous. I've exchanged with him at length, off-record. As long as he doesn't mention specifics (names, places, etc), then that doesn't 'break the rules'.

This policy is also to be found in his blog, and (as an extra insurance policy) he stressed it was all really fiction. My personal conviction, based on what I know, is that it is totally not.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mike (here)

It's the formula these days - act coy and reticent. The "reluctant hero". Then slowly come to the forefront.

That's also the archetype of Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. It's actually quite common (which is why it's an archetype)... many members here will have experienced that in various forms.

[Bubu]

Posted by Carmody (here)
In the wold of disclosure and secrets ---that which functions, with regard to exposure, dies or is killed. Sometimes immediately.

Ie, less than 24 hours is possible, depending on the nature of the threat and the given effectiveness of said threat.

couldn't agree more. Truth seekers are better off knowing where to look at and what to look for. In most cases the most important info are not directly connected to the main event.

[Star Tsar]

There is another five hours of video posted along side Shane's interview what do my fellow Avalonians think of it?

Edit/answer from Bill: that depends on what your browser cookies tell Google/YouTube you're interested in watching. The videos recommended will be different for everyone

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mike (here)
has the Ruiner made any predictions?

No, he hasn't, and he will not. He told me personally that there are so many plans A-Z in parallel, that to know what will happen when is almost impossible, even for many of those on the 'inside'. That situation is 100% real to me.

I also asked him directly whether he would be able to issue a warning, even privately, if he did feel he knew something was coming down imminently. He confirmed that he could, and would.

[Bill Ryan]

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The moderators are discussing this privately right now. One of the team said:

Just reading the thread, and members are giving Shane a hard time. I am not sure as to why yet.

My reply:

There's a lot of angst in the air. Many members would prefer to read about a definite predicted asteroid strike next week, than someone who really does know something, speaking in guarded and careful terms.

[Star Tsar]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
There is another five hours of video posted along side Shane's interview what do my fellow Avalonians think of it?

Edit/answer from Bill: that depends on what your browser cookies tell Google/YouTube you're interested in watching. The videos recommended will be different for everyone

No sorry Bill I mean posted by RunningDear ie Mr Faly's interviews no one has mentioned them...

[Jhonie]

I am disappointed we don't get to see the giants. But I imagine it would be difficult for them to get around being so tall and wires everywhere.

[ghostrider]

In my humble opinion there are very few real illuminati still around ... I think the ones making the rounds are just allowed to muddy the waters , and keep people in a state of fear and chasing their tails looking for the next cup of Kool-Aid...