Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

[Karpos]

Thanks Bill! Looking forward to seeing where this all goes, hehe.

[Nasu]

Great idea Bill and Shane, et al, for all the reasons. I for one am looking forward to it.. N

[Shane]

Hi guys,

Bill and I have discussed doing an interview for Avalon and I am definitely willing to do so. I'm sure we will plan something soon.

I don't mind anyone disbelieving what I say or preferring to spend energy on other things. For those who are interested in what I have to say, I will be honest. Those who feel I am a complete liar are also respected. This is the beauty of free will.. Choice.


With love and respect,

[Karpos]

Hi Shane. I appreciate your stance, and you don't sway.

Maybe I shouldn't bring this up, but I just checked Corey's FB page (puke) ...

Look at what Wilcock posted:

David Wilcock: Gonzales just told us that the Cabal is "very disappointed" about how little of an effect the planted disinformation and attacks against Corey have had so far. They have not had anywhere near as much power in discrediting him on a wide level as they had hoped. We were told that the attacks are going to step up and get a lot more fervent and intense, and this will predominantly be done using public figures who have a negative view of us and are therefore willing to go for the jugular. So please be aware that this is a war, and you will see it being fought through established figures who dislike this work for some reason and will give various alleged witnesses and insiders a platform to mount attacks.

I simply can't believe how juvenile and see through they are. But then again, I said a lot in my first post. I'd rather be here giving you another chance, then fawning over Corey/Wilcock/Gaiam nonsense. I might get one of the Sphere Being Mugs just for a souvenir. Might fetch a pretty penny someday, lol!

Best to you, Shane.

(sitting on the fence sipping tea, quietly, for now)

[Matthew]

Oh forgot to say, interesting that Kerry corroborated something Shane said in passing*, but from her first hand personal experience that she had not previously revealed. I guess once you reveal it, it's spent forever so thank you Kerry

* Miles Johnson something

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Elainie (here)
Many of them are elderly and their offspring have not followed in the same direction as their parents.

It seems that even the elite find that their dang kids can't counted on to carry on the family business in a "proper" way ... cool!

[Cidersomerset]

("Bill Ryan is now vouching for him too.") Yes, he is. I logged a 50 page written interview with him a few weeks ago
(actually, a very long Skype chat over a couple of days), that we agreed would be off-record. It will not be aired on Gaiam TV.
He is for real.

That's good enough for me , as I said in my post interview post we needed more info
and Bill has given us more context and he has spoken to him face to face. The next
interview hopefully will be a little more focused as a lot of ground was covered by Kerry.
It seemed to lack direction for me , but that's not a problem just how it panned out
for some of us. Since I was quoted in a post above which is no problem , i'll post
the whole thing to put it in context and I was quite neutral about it, in case I came
over otherwise....

Strange one I can see how DNA thinks its BS , and I feel some sort of vibe coming
from him like Becky. Most of what 'little he said' could have come from reading
other research and witness disclosure. Or it could be the nature of the interview ,
that Kerry let it flow and was relatively gentle with him.

When he discusses witnessing ritual sacrifice , murder & rape that he witnessed as a
child, to other children and adults. His answer felt underwhelming as did his general
tone and attitude, coming over in his voice which seemed a bit flippant. But that could
be a defence mechanism of what he saw and experienced. Needs more info and a more
specific structured interview before I can make judgement either way.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
Yet, she's supposedly got a guy sitting next to her with a "comprehensive view" on what's happening and what might happen soon enough and she doesn't bother to let him talk about it as offered? So frustrating!

It seemed to me that Kerry was more focused in this interview on figuring the technology (Google groups or whatever, in this case) and in figuring out the next question to ask ... than she was in listening to what Shane said. Perhaps she wears her "spontaneous, guerrilla news reporter" style as a badge of honor (and as an occasional excuse for the inevitable imperfections.)

On the other hand, Kerry's been delivering a wide ranging number of controversial interviews for many years now - a focus and energy level that few could attain, much less sustain. She leaves most of those more focused on polish and preparation in the dust ... thanks, Kerry! We love ya, even as we do like to quibble from the bleacher seats, now and then.

[Sierra]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Elainie (here)
Many of them are elderly and their offspring have not followed in the same direction as their parents.

It seems that even the elite find that their dang kids can't counted on to carry on the family business in a "proper" way ... cool!

Can't believe Dylan wrote this in 1963:

Come gather ’round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’ or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’
For the loser now will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside and it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin’
Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin’
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’

Copyright © 1963, 1964

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Karpos (here)
The only thing going for Shane is that [B]Bill Ryan is now vouching for him too.

I too vouch for Shane.

(not for Corey)

[Cidersomerset]

Hi guys,

Bill and I have discussed doing an interview for Avalon and I am definitely willing to do so. I'm sure we will plan something soon.

I don't mind anyone disbelieving what I say or preferring to spend energy on other things. For those who are interested in what
I have to say, I will be honest. Those who feel I am a complete liar are also respected. This is the beauty of free will.. Choice.

With love and respect,

Thanks for coming on Shane , I think we did not get the most out of your experiences in the interview,
but now Bill has given us more context , it will be nice to have a follow up , and as you are a member
and read the reviews , you will know some of the frustrations expressed. Its totally up to you of course
'free will' as you say . But the people who took that from you and many others should be exposed imo.

Though I perfectly understand that its dangerous to name people for safety purposes , which is the
perpetual dilemma for victims coming forward. Any way cheers Steve...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Sierra (here)
Can't believe Dylan wrote this in 1963:

A suggested link on the next tab I went to in my browser: Bob Dylan Entrevista Time Magazine Interview 1965

(Sorry - the audio is limited quality, and the subtitles are in Portuguese.)

[Karezza]

Interesting thread...in the interview Kerry Cassidy asks if The Ruiner had read the 'Transylvanian Series'. For some points raised in those books may collaborate his discussions. Reading through the thread was a little surprising...it makes one recall a passage from the fourth book of the Transylvanian Series - 'The Secret Parchment: Five Tibetan Initiation Techniques.'

The writer of the series, tasked with translating a Tibetan manual script/ parchment into the fourth book hopes all his readers can take something of value or understanding from his work; however his mentor Caesar (who works for the Romanian intelligence agency) doubts this.

A direct quote from fourth book on Scribid (disjointed language structure; wonders if someone was using a poor version of Google Translator)

...given the responsibility that we have in the translation and commentaries that consider this part of the book to be the most difficult. After the understanding of everyone and especially after its affinities, concepts revealed in the text scrolls horizon attentive reader may open completely different perception of life and goals.

- Do not say everything, but do not leave things in the dark, advised Caesar. However, to understand the specific elements that the text needed to read those explanations to show kindness, judgment and ability not to be proud.
- You think you'll find this to many people?

- I think, in this way, especially young people will be receptive and will perceive the profound meaning of the teachings of parchment goddess.

- And I tell you that you have big surprises in this direction. Most of them are closed, are even semidocţi. Is directed only to ideas without spiritual support, confuse it with science and "facts" to them.

- How do you know this?

Caesar smiled slightly, his characteristic style.
- We have certain research programs and selection from among this age group. There are some special tests that show the true abilities. But you can surf on Internet forums, is enough to get an idea. Everyone wants to look smarter than others, everyone wants to impress with his knowledge, but when it comes to discernment or occult aspects, spiritual, most of them proves its weakness, pride or arrogance.

- Not a bit harsh? I asked timidly.

- Would you like to say something? Sure, not everyone is like this. But there is a statistic in this matter, which cannot be ignored. The social system is simply embarrassing, it năuceşte. But we now discuss what should be done, because that feeling that you want to ask me. Let's hope that the text scrolls will still affect them, showing them in a way that not everything flies eat.

Glad though of the thread turn around

[awakeningmom]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
Yet, she's supposedly got a guy sitting next to her with a "comprehensive view" on what's happening and what might happen soon enough and she doesn't bother to let him talk about it as offered? So frustrating!

It seemed to me that Kerry was more focused in this interview on figuring the technology (Google groups or whatever, in this case) and in figuring out the next question to ask ... than she was in listening to what Shane said. Perhaps she wears her "spontaneous, guerrilla news reporter" style as a badge of honor (and as an occasional excuse for the inevitable imperfections.)

On the other hand, Kerry's been delivering a wide ranging number of controversial interviews for many years now - a focus and energy level that few could attain, much less sustain. She leaves most of those more focused on polish and preparation in the dust ... thanks, Kerry! We love ya, even as we do like to quibble from the bleacher seats, now and then.

Is "spontaneous guerilla news reporter" code for totally unprepared? She's been doing this long enough to know what people want to hear about, and long enough to know that she shouldn't be so rude so as to spend three to five minutes trying to figure out her technology while she ignores her guest (crickets) -- and then ask really dumb audience questions instead of following up on the bigger issues that Shane offered to speak about. I've seen Kerry speak at conferences and have listened to other interviews she's done, and yes, some of them are better organized than this one (for the most part, though she does seem to leave really important questions on the table....or she changes the subject just when the answers are getting good...). I also think it's unprofessional for an interviewer to be so unfamiliar with her subject -- Kerry admits she's barely read the Ruiner's Blog -- what kind of preparation is that for interviewing him? She could use some interviewing lessons from Terry Gross (Fresh Air) or Regina Meredith (Conscious Media Network, now on Gaiam) -- both women are always so well prepared, know their subject and their material, and are usually so good at allowing their interviewees to run with the good stuff.

Bill, any idea as to when you might conduct this Ruiner interview? And when you do, can you please ask Shane some of the following questions:

1. Your blog presents interesting slices revealing some of the structures of this world, but can you give us a big picture comprehensive overview about what's going on now, with so many changes going on behind the scenes?

2. What is the purpose of keeping roughly 7 billion people in the dark while a small group interacts with giants, ET's, wormholes, space travel, etc. Why have so many go to a dead-end job, eat, pray, love, and live under major falsehoods -- not even knowing our origins, our history, or our (supposed) potential? And why has it taken so long for us to "awaken to this whole matrix of deception"? What is the metaphysical purpose to any of this deception -- or this supposed awakening, which seems more and more unlikely given so much conflicting info?

3. You offered this to Kerry, who ignored your offer, but yes, could you please give us a Draconian, Blond ET, Pleidian, Giant, Andromedan Human, Illuminati insider, and any other perspective of what is about to happen? It would be interesting to know all perspectives if you know them.

4. Can you elaborate on what our human potential is and how we can further awaken this potential after thousands of years of brainwashing and toxic poisoning? Are there exercises, routines, meditations to practice or books to read?

5. Why do the Illuminati engage in such sadistic rituals in the first place? Is to get them to move past all fear? To realize that all is illusion? Does it give them actual power/life force? Or is it just because they are sick twisted, psychopaths working for actual demons who enjoy blood sacrifice and demand it of their followers?

6. Where does the "soul" originate from -- and if you say Source, where the heck is Source through all of this negativity and deception? Is this just another side of the same Source -- the demonic side -- attempting to kill itself? So that good and evil are illusions at some level -- but feel very real -- and very unfair -- here in the physical plane?

That's a start....wish Kerry would have asked some of these....(or waited for the answers when Shane offered to provide them).

[Shannon]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Star Mariner (here)

Posted by Saint Theresa (here)
I gotta give props to Kerry Cassidy though, she really tries to get answers and pose questions that are significant. Not an easy thing with subjects such as these.

Yet missed some critical questions. At about the 1hr mark, the secret space program came up, (plus extra-dimensional/planetary travel, portals, black projects etc,) and whereas we learned Shane had been 'educated' in these matters, had a 'comprehensive view of them', I was really wanting Kerry to pointedly ask him, had he witnessed/experienced the actual reality of them first hand? That could have led to more questions, and some interesting (perhaps less generalized) information.

A good interview over all, though a little sketchy in places. Because I would imagine a lot of people tuning in to listen were already familiar with Shane's story, but Kerry seemed to be unclear on several aspects, as if she hadn't even read his blog, which I found surprising, and a little frustrating.

I have to completely disagree with you Saint Theresa on Kerry's interview prowess in this case, and I was completely frustrated by this interview at the same place Star Mariner. Kerry failed to ask the real questions -- and moved on when he was actually offering to talk about the big questions. What's up with that? For example, around the 1:05 mark, Kerry asks Shane/Ruiner:

1. Do you have any Big Picture understandings of what's going on on the planet....? (something like that). Shane: Yes. My mentorship gave me a very comprehensive view....
Kerry: Ok, let's move on to something else....

2 Kerry: Have you been educated about what will happen....in the future? Shane: Yes, I've gained lots of views...I could tell you specifically what the Draconians think is going to happen, what the Blond ET race would say, what the Pleidians or Andromedans currently think, etc (Me: YES PLEASE TELL US and KERRY PLEASE DO NOT MOVE ON!). Kerry: Ok, let's move on to listener questions.....Um, Shane is there anything else you'd like to talk about that I haven't asked you already? (Me: How about asking him to answer what he offered to answer?!)

I've got 34 minutes to go in this interview, but if Kerry doesn't get her act together and ask REAL questions instead of asking Shane about his music career, I'm going to hurl my laptop.... How long has she been conducting interviews? Yet, she's supposedly got a guy sitting next to her with a "comprehensive view" on what's happening and what might happen soon enough and she doesn't bother to let him talk about it as offered? So frustrating!

Totally valid points...I just see it as if I was giving the interview I would be too intrusive or the complete opposite given the content. I'll be looking forward to bills interview!

Also, I thank Shane for speaking out on his experience and his family. Regardless to what anyone believes or not he's got our attention. I don't think anyone is being too hard on him, calling BS, is what it is and he doesn't seem bothered ....And he is handling any feedback like a champ. So respect, Shane.

[awakeningmom]

Posted by Karpos (here)

I've read about Ritual Sacrifice for a long time, and never any real case of it outside of Vampires and Wanna-be Satanists killing people in cold, insane, blood. This is all started in the Satanic Ritual Sacrifice HYSTERIA started in Omaha I think, and made contagious by hypnotism, false memory syndrome, and again HYSTERIA which is shared delusion.

Going around propagating these ideas, with no proof or even evidence (yes, thousands of people go missing a year=doesn't equal abducted sacrifice victims, IMO) only adds the hysteria, and causes sick minds (vampire and fake Satanists teens n such) to really think there is some black path that leads to Satan's feet for service in some way. It's this type of stuff that makes others sick in the head. So yea, I don't believe. I didn't believe it when I heard the first ILLUMINTI Insider lady (forget her name) say it, and I don't believe since."

For me, although it's so hard to fathom that people DO these kinds of things, it seems that if you travel down the rabbit hole far enough, you cannot escape reading about these ritualized killings. David Icke brought us there, and much of his information is turning out to be true about the high-level pedophiles in the U.K. Then there are the whistleblowers/ex-MK-ultra/Monarch slaves coming forward with their horrific stories of abuse -- so many of them -- are they all lying? The Franklin Scandal was real. Not hysteria. Not false memory syndrome (used to discredit the children telling the truth, as in the McMartin Preschool case). Are there people making up stories cause they are bored or on some disinfo payroll somewhere? I have no doubt. And Miles W. Mathis suggests that all of the "satanic" stuff is a distraction -- a falsehood -- to keep us from the truth about the alphabet agency programs, which are evil enough as it is. But it seems to me that there is some truth to it -- though I'm still trying to figure out WHY it is so. I do agree that it can create copycat wanna-be's -- but if we don't talk about it, then it doesn't get exposed.

[3(C)+me]

Mr Ruiner,
you said Mlabs are being phased out, why? Something about the clone situation replacing the MLABS, from your perspective what was the purpose of the MLABS and how is this clone process replacing it and what are the negatives/positives of using clones via the cabal.
Can you talk about what programs are being phased out and what that is about.
Did your parents know about your double life or were they programed not to know.
Giants, anything new?
Thank you,
Mr Ruiner

[Carmody]

Ritual sacrifice involvement is a good a hook (ie, ego feedback loop) to keep people in line.... as anything else.

The more important part to understand is that it is a holographic 2d quantum reality matrix you exist in. The biggest part of getting things straight in this mess is wandering down the path of knowing the passive response reporting reflection of self that is ego, that voice in the head. start with that sort of thing and never let go until it is clear that you understand it as a knowing being act of self.

In effect, in the final analysis, we are fixating on and creating pathways that exist only because the passive reporting program called the ego is being used as the mirror of quantum holographic reality, when it is in fact not. It is just the echo of a biological colored filter, a system that exists only on the surface of the hologram's quantum components when seen as a grouping.

The body is a quantitized hologram in a holographic matrix -----and we mistake it's reflection/musing and interpretations.... as the reality. Stop doing that. See it for what it is. Crash you ego, gently choke it to death or burn it out of your system, whatever way you can get it done..... just get it done. Stop walking around the face of the most fundamental problem for the 10,000th time.

Plato picks up the handgun and screams at you, like an interdimensional philosophical cop, "Put...the monkey...down!!....Step away... from ...the monkey!"


In the link, if you read the post, you might get a tickle in your mind about how interdimensionals shift into this place and then..how it can be steered and solidified by group consensus via the hind-brain of the cows that make up the quanta of the given holographic matrix.

7 billion monkey reflections of similarity in design and flow.....hold a matrix/bubble and move it around.

Thus, when you begin to gain an understanding of these things, ritual sacrifice is fundamental, as a lever, but only in context. It's not about the cattle prod, it is about it's existence and placement in the given context...nothing more.

Ultimately it is a mathematical formula and set of values applied to a system.

[Shane]

Posted by cccme (here)
Mr Ruiner,
you said Mlabs are being phased out, why? Something about the clone situation replacing the MLABS, from your perspective what was the purpose of the MLABS and how is this clone process replacing it and what are the negatives/positives of using clones via the cabal.
Can you talk about what programs are being phased out and what that is about.
Did your parents know about your double life or were they programed not to know.
Giants, anything new?
Thank you,
Mr Ruiner

Hi ccme,

Just so you know I don't plan to do Q&A's here, but I will respond briefly irrespective of that

MILAB programs have far too many functions to state, but to sum them all up you can call them human experiments. Whether that means collecting DNA, testing or utilizing implants or something even more dark. Nasty programs all around.

Clones are replacing the need to use the general public for these tests as well as many of the programs. A good example is that Clones don't ever go public and say what they experienced and can be easily discarded since they "don't exist" anyways. Many who perform such acts would say they feel better about inflicting negative actions upon beings who don't truly have a natural soul. They assume this creates less (or no) karma as well.

Most of the programs being phased out are subdivisions of larger programs. Let's go with a "Super Solider Program". Clones have erased the need to augment humans from the public or bloodlines in order to create "Super Soldiers". So many programs associated with those practices can be shut down. An example, I don't really have a list to show.

My parents did not know until I was a teenager and began speaking out about things. There are technologies that help people "not notice" a great deal.

Nothing new there, no, sorry.

With love and respect,

[Bill Ryan]

.
The reality of ritual sacrifice:

http://projectavalon.net/svali.mp3

A serious warning. This is real, moving and harrowing. Svali (pseudonym), who is an ex-Illuminati trainer, in hiding, recounts in a live interview with Greg Szymanski her witnessing a child sacrifice in a room under the Vatican when she (Svali) was also a young child, forced to look on.

I have listened it to it, carefully, exactly once. (Once was enough for it to be forever etched on my mind.) If you hear this through, you will never doubt the reality again. It needs to be heard by every human being.