THE RULERS OF THE WORLD: a new Project Avalon video interview

[Banshee]

Posted by sepia (here)
No?

In some cultures they are bread to be eaten.

And "Dog" was an example. I could have said sheep, cattles, pigs, chicken, salmon, butterflyes.... Understand the point?

Thanks for thumping me over my thick head ( seriously mean thank you)

I am assigning my emotional responses to someone/something that may not have any (emotion).

[Banshee]

This question should probably be under Q&A, and if this has already been discussed, I apologize ( this topic is becoming massive)

I understood the 33 to be human? Obviously they did not breed us as an experiment - who/what is? Are the 33 accountable to them? If so, are the 33 aware that they are accountable to them?

Thanks!

[OneLittleFrog]

Ah I see, we're simply DOGS to be bred for entertainment and value. And so many here are just fine with that.

The controllers - the dog-breeders - they care about us. They only want what's best for us. They love us.

Just like Michael Vick loved his dogs.

[Steven]

I don't believe humanity is a produce of another "creature". I believe the Human Being is a "earthling", just like Credo Mutwa already presented in his many interviews. I believe we have been manipulated in our genetic evolution by technologically advanced races foreign to Earth, but certainly not "created" by them.

We have been altered, not created. Just like we do alter other specie without creating them.

In a rightful ownership point of view, we are from Earth, not the races who came here to interfere in our natural course. We have both a right and a responsibility on Earth, coming from our "mother".

Namaste, Steven

[Banshee]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)
Ah I see, we're simply DOGS to be bred for entertainment and value. And so many here are just fine with that.

The controllers - the dog-breeders - they care about us. They only want what's best for us. They love us.

Just like Michael Vick loved his dogs.

Well maybe you bring up a very good point. If we think about what we perceive as valuable and assuming we are of rational mind , we as inviduals don't place value on that which doesn't serve us. If we look at the human race as a whole, what conclusion would we draw were we on the outside? We don't look very appealing by virtue of the way we treat one another as just one example. Perhaps we were an experiment gone bad. A mistake.

If you had a herd of livestock that had grown exponentially and was demonstrating negative traits and you couldn't or didn't want to maintain such a large herd, which ones would you eliminate? What would be your criteria?

[Banshee]

Posted by Steven (here)
I don't believe humanity is a produce of another "creature". I believe the Human Being is a "earthling", just like Credo Mutwa already presented in his many interviews. I believe we have been manipulated in our genetic evolution by technologically advanced races foreign to Earth, but certainly not "created" by them.

We have been altered, not created. Just like we do alter other specie without creating them.

In a rightful ownership point of view, we are from Earth, not the races who came here to interfere in our natural course. We have both a right and a responsibility on Earth, coming from our "mother".

Namaste, Steven

We as a species are close to having the technology to create new life forms. We can already grow organs, tissues, etc., independently of a host.

[bashi]

Posted by greybeard (here)
My feeling is just get on with life, we are only controlled if we think we are.

Your life is also here on this forum, isn't it?
If anybody has asked you here in the past to give a hand and assist for understanding/clearification/knowledge, then you have always rushed into benevolent action.

Now on this forum a call has been made to assist in shaping the future of mankind. This call has been made by no others than the shapers and controllers of the past.
Are they not also humans? Are they not worth being helped because of the mistakes they made?
The question arising now in your life is: Are you willing to assist or will you still advise to ignore the situation, which might result into Them becoming mass-murderers?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Wood (here)
He is probably reading all this. It would be nice if he could register here (nickname 'Charles'?) and start his own thread. That would be a little too democratic for the taste of the '33' though (difficult damage control).

well whistleblowers know we are a tough crowd, and Charles has info to share with us, whether we believe him or not and better things to do than to argue in a forum. That's why he chose Bill to speak for him to all of us...

I have never seen Bill so certain on what he has learned before and to all of us that does mean a lot...

[norman]

Posted by bashi (here)


Now on this forum a call has been made to assist in shaping the future of mankind. This call has been made by no others than the shapers and controllers of the past.
Are they not also humans? Are they not worth being helped because of the mistakes they made?

Where has this actually been stated, I must have missed it somewhere.?

[OneLittleFrog]

Posted by bashi (here)

Now on this forum a call has been made to assist in shaping the future of mankind. This call has been made by no others than the shapers and controllers of the past.
Are they not also humans?

As for your last sentence, I think that's considerably in doubt. And I STILL do not believe these 'controllers' have our best interests at heart.

[Deega]

Posted by bashi (here)
If i would be Charles, by now i would be MAD AS HELL.
It seems you guys are showing NO understanding for people much different than internet-bloggers.
Have you heard of self-respect? These people have a lot of this (maybe too much), because that is needed to be brave and fearless.
For people which are used to kick ass (so to speak), this type of response is just UNBEARABLE.
Forget the idea of Charles replying directly on this forum. Just forget it ...

Hi Bashi,

What would CHarles expect from us...?, to be impressed, to follow the leader without questions....!, to call his say as truth that we should adhered and help the mouvance...!, questionning is preservation of existing securities, not questionning is irresponsible!

From what I have read, members questioned the behaviour, the content we were familiar!, is this disrespect?, I wouldn't!

All my blessings.

Deega

[bashi]

Posted by norman (here)
Where has this actually been stated, I must have missed it somewhere.?

Watch the vid again. There Bill asked if They would listen in a meeting to new ideas. The reply was "You will have 20 seconds" (to give an impression of worthiness).

[Steven]

Posted by Banshee (here)
We as a species are close to having the technology to create new life forms. We can already grow organs, tissues, etc., independently of a host.

We duplicate life, not create it.

Namaste, Steven

[truth will win out]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)
As for your last sentence, I think that's considerably in doubt. And I STILL do not believe these 'controllers' have our best interests at heart.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would believe for a second that these "controllers" have our best interest in heart.. What evidence do we have ever, I mean ever that the "controllers" have our best interest at heart.

[truth will win out]

Posted by Deega (here)
Hi Bashi,

What would CHarles expect from us...?, to be impressed, to follow the leader without questions....!, to call his say as truth that we should adhered and help the mouvance...!, questionning is preservation of existing securities, not questionning is irresponsible!

From what I have read, members questioned the behaviour, the content we were familiar!, is this disrespect?, I wouldn't!

All my blessings.

Deega

I agree, thank you...

[sepia]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)
Ah I see, we're simply DOGS to be bred for entertainment and value. And so many here are just fine with that.

The controllers - the dog-breeders - they care about us. They only want what's best for us. They love us.

Just like Michael Vick loved his dogs.

Please make a difference between Body an Being. We are Divine Beings living in an Animal Body.

If you understand this it becomes much easier.

One major problem is, that the controllers are only interested into the the Animal-Body and its DNA.

As long as we don't see their viewpoint, we are lost.

[bashi]

Hi viking,
i also - like Luke - see this as a final call, just to cover all angles from Their side.

I know that there is a particular relationship between reality and consciousness. The point is: There is not a duality existing as perceived by many. They think they can project and materialize in this way, thus forgetting that matter is made out of consciousness within the matrix. This reality is creating itself for the realisation of the divine play, which means the realization of conscious experience in order to create consciousness. This includes EVERYTHING.
So there is a kind of two-way relationship between reality and consciousness: Both are acting together and are not independent from each other.
Consciousness creates the reality, which manifests in order to create experience which results in the growth of consciousness. We are acting in an environment like a sandman playing on a beach.

What does it mean translated into the current situation?
This contact has materialized in front of your eyes. The call for assistance has been made.
This reality gives now a vast array of choices: denial, refusal, negligence, acceptance or

CHALLENGE.

Your reaction and decision determines your future experience.
It boils down to CHOICE.

This call is now part of your reality and life.
Can you manage that?
Do you really believe that concentration onto a drop of water is the proper reaction to this kind of call?

[Malcolm Linus]

To me, this interview reinforces a display of insecurity on part of "the 33". By trying to discretely convince the viewer that there is not much of a chance of ousting them from power, they reveal this clearly. As in any case, their insecurities will be their downfall. An insecure "leader" should gracefully step down and let an upcoming natural leader take its natural place. In this instance, I believe this new leader is a group of people (or a council, if you will) willing to have people like Bill Ryan as counselors to steer earth humans into a completely transparent and open society, making it possible for the earth's inhabitants to make informed decisions, based on sound information.

Thank you.

[norman]

Posted by bashi (here)
Watch the vid again. There Bill asked if They would listen in a meeting to new ideas. The reply was "You will have 20 seconds" (to give an impression of worthiness).

Ahhh I remember that but it didn't give me an impression it was an open invitation. In the full context of the dialog, including "let the best man win" and "I know your outgunned", I was left with the impression that all that was on offer was a personal invite for Bill to move over to their camp and sit in the back and shut up after 20 seconds and probably shut up about what he's been told indefinately also.

Actually, all I really got from the interview was the fact that Bill has been told a lot of stuff, but none of that came through in the 2 hour trussing he got. I'm even doubtful that much of it will come out at all. It's that damn protocol thing again.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by truth will win out (here)
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would believe for a second that these "controllers" have our best interest in heart.. What evidence do we have ever, I mean ever that the "controllers" have our best interest at heart.

Hi there - online very briefly, for a few minutes only, at a service station on the Freeway.

I needed to clarify this, and I hope it's helpful.

They certainly do not have our "best interests at heart". They don't care at all about our "best interests".

It's like a group of deer in the forest who see the gamekeeper with his gun, as he takes aim at them, and say: "That crazy guy with the gun doesn't have our best interests at heart. Run!"

The gamekeeper is playing a different game. His concern is to safeguard the herd. Or the forest. Or the ecosystem. Not individual deer.

From the viewpoint of the deer, the gamekeeper is a murderer. But ask the gamekeeper, and he thinks he's a good man.

This analogy is very limited - I totally understand that. As I stated right up front at the start of the video, I believe there's another way. But we have to understand the game that's being played if we have any chance of influencing it.

This has been useful, because your post (and many others) shows me that I have not yet explained clearly enough one of the main revelations of the interview: how the 33 think, and why they're doing what they are doing.

They believe they are the guardians of the experiment (or the project) that is the human race. They are planning for an outcome that's two million years away in the future. They don't care at all what happens tomorrow or next week or next century, as long as the project is on track.

As Charles tried to explain, the 33 'ruling families' have a totally different concept of time. That's because they're a third of the way through a three million year project - and are in it for the long haul. Do they care about you and me? Of course not. Why would they? Their concern is the DNA - not the people.

Like Neo-Darwinist Richard Dawkins' controversial book The Selfish Gene, individual animals may just be the way that the DNA propagates itself. Like the chicken being just the way that the egg creates another egg.

Do you see.....?

This is an important post.