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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Well now, Shane, you have got yourself in a pickle. Good. Your friends asked and you stepped forward. Then the public wanted a rock concert and they got elevator music in this interview.

    Not that you care about ratings, but you do care about making a difference. The skillful means.

    We are so jaded by all the lies and deceptions by our "leaders" and our own apathy (because the beatings will continue until the morale improves) - nothing really seems to make a difference and many people could not recognize the truth anymore if it smacked them in the face, nor an honest man.

    The principalities and dominions are at a weak point, a new energy begins to enfolds us. This is the time to strike - with the truth/facts/knowledge for humanity is at the threshold. It would be helpful, i.e., for us to know our true history and you know a sizable chunk of it.

    We could also stand some encouragement regarding our atrophied abilities to create. It is said that an 11th level Bodhisattva can create universes out of the pores of his skin, but I have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning. So, help an old man out here :-)

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    What that guy said ^^^^^^^^. Very wise johnh. You said everything I was trying to say, just with more couth and clarity. Yes, "They" are reeling, that is why I am so keen to exploit this weak point. Shane is not the only one involved, but he could help in the push to critical mass. A two hour interview with Bill, with the right questions, could push everyone over the edge.
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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    The only thing going for Shane is that [B]Bill Ryan is now vouching for him too.
    I too vouch for Shane.

    (not for Corey)
    As do I. And Carmody. From WAAY back!


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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    I surprised myself by listening to both Mr. Ruiner's 1:41 interview and Mr. Fally's 2:41 interview right in a row and I think both of these individuals are telling me pretty much the same thing, which is to continue working on my own spiritual development and continue to practice and learn how to live in love and without fear.
    Of course, they said more than that ...
    Thank you all for posting.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    This reminds me a little of Charles. That was a long time ago. I never got the full story on what happened with Charles. To my knowledge, Bill has never given us the full story on what happened. I was one of those who really believed Charles at first. That might be why I am so skeptical of Shane?

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    Seeker, IMO Charles and Shane are completely different but I understand how you are jaded. There is no control/expansion agenda from Shane, whereas with Charles it was obvious. I scanned Atticus' initial documents and realized within 3-5 minutes he was lying. Charles was trying to get people to manifest a timeline where TPTB were still in control, and present them as benevolent overlords of humanity. He came from a similar camp to Hidden Hand. He also lied when he said "the nuclear option is still on the table." I don't think it is. Those buried bombs are a hassle, but the collective voted no to nuclear destruction years ago. It's all about the "voting" process in the other realm.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Shane,
    I heard a lot of wisdom in your voice!





    Namaste' & Nagosa

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Okay then....Whew!

    So many views from people who are suggesting BS. One comment I read here said:

    Quote You make a solid argument for keeping things general and unspecific
    General and unspecific? How specific do you want it? Do you want names, photos, video? Do you want arrests?

    I know I do! I want arrests I know will never happen!

    Oh I get it...you want a real Show! A little Evil Karn 9!



    From my own experience I KNOW I would love to give you all a great show. It involves blood....Lots of blood.

    But that will never happen. Want to know why? I have family. Family I love. If I was to give you the show you all really want with all the blood and spilled guts then perhaps it would satisfy your lust for a story eh?

    I'm here to tell you now, and suggest; I'm fairly certain Shane has a friend or two and a family member or two he would not want to see get hurt. So he should server it up on a silver platter to satisfy your curious needs and lust for a good story?

    But no...that's not nearly enough. We want blood! We want a dead corpse to view! We want proof! Otherwise we just can't fathom that a person would be sacrificed in a ritualistic nature now would we? Or even more that it involves ET and his phone call home.

    On a personal note I can verify much of what Shane says. I can even verify some of what that mp3 Bill posted said. So would I even attempt to share with you what I personally know? Not a chance after reading this thread. I love my "living" son and intend on keeping him that way...loved and living that is. Would I even attempt to share anything knowing it would be analyzed as delusion by the maddening crowd of skeptics? Not a ghost's chance!

    This much I know from experience: They go after your loved ones.

    Sorry folks giving you the story and proof you really want is not worth it. Not to me anyway. I've already made that mistake and lost my son in the process.

    Holy cow! I thought there were rules as to how a "member" is treated here? Apparently once they do an interview they're skewered and grilled!

    ~

    Shane,

    I thought what you conveyed was enough and not vague at all. I suppose that child sacrifice or any sacrifice for that matter is beyond their comfort zone. Perhaps all those practices died out in ancient Egypt and South America...or perhaps they did not. How do you suppose they (the skeptics) justify all the missing children? Simply missing? Perhaps they'll all just turn up one day fine and dandy. Perhaps not.

    Shane you handled yourself quite well considering the line of questioning in that interview. I thought you handled yourself very well in this thread as well considering. Giving them respect and dignity they perhaps were not prepared for.

    So to you Shane:

    Respect,
    Shadowself
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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    When I was finally able to read this thread all the way through, my initial reaction was to cringe, because Shane and Kerry are both members of this forum, and we are supposed to treat each other with respect, something which was lacking in some of the posts.
    Respect is something Shane has always shown to others as far as I am aware, and so has Kerry, though she can also be tenacious at times when it comes to asking hard questions.
    But both have faced challenges that deserve our appreciation, and it's always good to imagine walking a mile in someone else's shoes before criticizing.

    I've read the Ruiner blog from beginning to end, including the comments, and though I understand the skepticism and frustration of a lot of the posts here because of the long and difficult struggles we've all had in our attempts at arriving at truth, I feel there is potential through Shane for some useful information to be forthcoming, and some better understanding to come about.
    So we're off to a bit of a rocky start in this next chapter of interacting with Shane, but that leaves us with plenty of room for growth...

    I'm grateful that Bill and Paul stepped in to vouch for Shane, and that there will be an interview conducted by Bill.
    The interviews of Simon Parkes that originated here on Avalon were great, and I expect this one will be too.


    If we can begin to formulate questions here for Bill's interview with Shane, I have a few that I would love to have answered. I apologize if they have been answered already in the blog--it's difficult to keep it all straight in one's head with this kind of online format, though I do try, and sometimes the answers have just been so brief that they don't make much of an impression... on my mind, at least.
    Here are a few questions:

    What can you tell us about a Mantid race or races?
    (As I understand it, Chris Thomas, who claims to read the Akashic Record, says that he can't find them in the Records among races created by Source, and so if they exist, they must be a race that was hybridized.
    Reports from some individuals about them say they are dangerous and unfriendly, while the ones that Simon Parkes says he knows are our potential allies, according to him, although he admits that they have participated in human abductions conducted by the Dracos and Greys. He says their technology is very advanced. That is really about all I "know" about them, and I suspect that's true for most of us. It would be very good if we could know more...)

    Are you able to read the Akashic Record, and if so, do you think it can be tampered with (no doubt those who read it can be tampered with, but what about the Records themselves), or do you know anyone who reads them and shares their views whose information you can recommend?

    You mentioned in your blog that you are a dragon soul; can you tell us what that means? Is it anything to do with the race we have come to think of as the Annunaki? What do you think the Annunaki are planning to do insofar as Earth is concerned--will they return here in numbers? (Readers of this thread who haven't read what is said about the Annunaki in the Ruiner blog might find it very interesting. See: http://theruiner777.blogspot.com/2015/07/annunaki.html)


    What can you tell us about members of friendly ET races who may be concerned about us and planet Earth, and about what they might have done, or are doing, or plan to do to assist us, if anything, in getting through and over the current mess we are in, cleaning it up, etc.?
    Are any of them in alliance for creating damage control re that inflicted by the Dracos, Illuminati, etc.?
    Do you think that some of them are incarnating here in order to help us through the current crisis?


    If so, (and it seems to me they are), it's very painful to think about what these sensitive souls (not to mention Illuminati children) may have to go through, as children, especially--do you think if such "Starseeds" exist that they will be able to be effective game changers after all the dumbing down process that Earth human children go through--fluoridation, vaccines, chemtrails, GMOs, public education, etc. etc.? If their compatriots on other worlds try to help them (and us), does that involve them karmically in a way that would be harmful to them; in other words, does it count against them under intergalactic and karmic law as unlawful interference, as the Law of One and other sources state?

    I have nightmares about all the kids who are sick and autistic from all the toxins.
    Do you think the incoming Wave energies will help them effectively with recovery?
    In the US, especially, this is becoming a huge tragedy, and it's difficult to see light at the end of that tunnel.

    What keeps you feeling hopeful?

    Thanks to Shane and Bill for agreeing to do a second interview.
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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    .
    The reality of ritual sacrifice:

    http://projectavalon.net/svali.mp3

    A serious warning. This is real, moving and harrowing. Svali (pseudonym), who is an ex-Illuminati trainer, in hiding, recounts in a live interview with Greg Szymanski her witnessing a child sacrifice in a room under the Vatican when she (Svali) was also a young child, forced to look on.

    I have listened it to it, carefully, exactly once. (Once was enough for it to be forever etched on my mind.) If you hear this through, you will never doubt the reality again. It needs to be heard by every human being.
    That was the most amazing interview I've ever heard. Mind blown. I'll be reading all that Svali has written, thats for sure.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

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    bsbray.. I was quite clear as to why I was doing the interview despite having not wanted the attention. Many people have asked me to continue writing and start speaking since the blog concluded and I have agreed. If people want to listen to what I have to say, they are welcomed to. Your offer to help make the blog private was attractive to me, but not to the people I was writing to.

    For the rest of the thread, I am thankful to hear what you all have to say. Just to clarify a couple things:


    I do not "hate" blondes, I did stumble in what I meant to say, though. It is sexual or romantic feeling towards blonde women that are an issue for me.

    This was the first time I've ever been interviewed on this type of topic. I am very used to responding to direct questions, but not so used to putting forward stories without those questions. As example, when asked to "paint the scene" I was at a loss to know what to say and so I didn't say much. My focus was to honestly answer the questions as well as I could and yes, I could have done better in that regard also.

    Thanks for listening, or not listening, for commenting, or not commenting, for enjoying what I have to say and for saying I am full of BS.

    With love and respect,
    I'm just glad you never took a creative writing class.
    I don't think you're full of BS bro. That would mean I'm calling you a bullsh!tter or someone who is a good liar. I don't think your a bullsh!tter at all, because if you were, you could have spun a believable tale complete with details and nuance. I'm glad you are not a Bull****ter because it means your not a liar.
    The tale you told should have left an imprint on your nervous system. There should have been adrenaline, elevated heart rate, a communication in your attitude that you were either happy or upset about telling your take, but there was none of that. Your story didn't just lack in artistic detail it lacked in emotional conveyance, it lacked a human response. I believe you are usually an honest, empathic person, that comes through in your voice, but empathic people are not only good at receiving messages they are good at communicating them as well, and your nonverbal communication to me said that you did not believe the story coming out of your mouth.

    No disrespect to you.
    You can not be an empath and devoid of emotion at the same time.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Quote Posted by Shane (here)
    Quote Posted by cccme (here)
    Mr Ruiner,
    you said Mlabs are being phased out, why? Something about the clone situation replacing the MLABS, from your perspective what was the purpose of the MLABS and how is this clone process replacing it and what are the negatives/positives of using clones via the cabal.
    Can you talk about what programs are being phased out and what that is about.
    Did your parents know about your double life or were they programed not to know.
    Giants, anything new?
    Thank you,
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    Hi ccme,

    Just so you know I don't plan to do Q&A's here, but I will respond briefly irrespective of that

    MILAB programs have far too many functions to state, but to sum them all up you can call them human experiments. Whether that means collecting DNA, testing or utilizing implants or something even more dark. Nasty programs all around.

    Clones are replacing the need to use the general public for these tests as well as many of the programs. A good example is that Clones don't ever go public and say what they experienced and can be easily discarded since they "don't exist" anyways. Many who perform such acts would say they feel better about inflicting negative actions upon beings who don't truly have a natural soul. They assume this creates less (or no) karma as well.

    Most of the programs being phased out are subdivisions of larger programs. Let's go with a "Super Solider Program". Clones have erased the need to augment humans from the public or bloodlines in order to create "Super Soldiers". So many programs associated with those practices can be shut down. An example, I don't really have a list to show.

    My parents did not know until I was a teenager and began speaking out about things. There are technologies that help people "not notice" a great deal.

    Nothing new there, no, sorry.

    With love and respect,
    I'm a fan of Billy Meier's work from the seventies.
    In it, he states quoting the Henoch prophecies that the U.S. will perfect the use of cloned soldiers. Much misery and death will be inflicted upon the U.S. when these soul-less murder machines rebel against their makers and kill with no remorse.
    Part of me has felt that the current infatuation we have with zombies in media and movies is a knowing in the collective unconscious that something like this is underway.
    http://theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm

    Also, Conner O'Ryan's interview with Wendelle Stevens stated something similar when Delta Force soldiers hinted Conner was a clone himself.
    It's the best damn whistle blower testimony I've ever seen, south no disrespect to Mr. Ryan.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-and-Bob-Dean

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    This is an interesting perspective - emotion! Do we really know all there is to know about emotion? Apart from simply experiencing it and from what we glean from avid theorists in various disciplines, e.g. psychiatry, biological repercussions, controlling triggers, etc. I believe the topic and exploration of emotion constitutes a bible in itself, but briefly and simply, mastering one's emotions in communication can be viewed twofold. Public speakers are trained in this art form as we are well aware. But from another angle, (which is being scientifically explored and determined), mastering emotion into a cohesive, neutral place of heart rhythm is not only beneficial to the individual it also fosters communication that is neutral and unbiased/non-judgmental thereby bringing a more stable and coherent energetic to communication, which of course then has the spin-off benefit of a more productive interchange.

    Controlling/mastering emotion doesn't default to mean one is devoid of it. And as perhaps it could be said that empaths are extremely sensitive to emotional communications it would heed them well for their own personal wellbeing to learn emotional mastering techniques in order to be able to determine, as well as convey, authenticity.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    I read some members saying that they can vouch for The Ruiner from years back. Did you guys know him, before, during, or after the time he was on Project Avalon to do surveillance for TPTB? This is a completely serious question. Also, I thought he said he is 34 and got out at 26 or 27. That would have been 7 or 8 years, but he said he was assigned to do surveillance on this site during the Bill and Kerry thing. Wasn't that about 5 years ago? I have learned to question everything after years of being asleep and questioning nothing! Something to me doesn't and never has felt right about TheRuiner. That is strictly my opinion and I always reserve my right to change my opinion at any time, given more reliable information.

    You must forgive me, as I am also of the unpopular opinion that Alex Jones is a shill. I bought it at first, until it just didn't hold up with further scrutiny. And in the alternative community, we need further scrutiny, with all the shills, cointelpro, and some people who just like to tell stories and be a part of a group. Yes, Alex Jones opened many eyes as to Bohemian Grove, etc, but what did that really accomplish. Information about Bohemian Grove was already out there. I just don't understand how he could have gotten in there, really. He was a public figure at that time (though admittedly not as famous, but come on) and held public conspiracy type ideals. Security and secret service must be really bad at their jobs. He exposed what others were already talking about, but he didn't get video of any person of note, so that can always leave doubt in some minds. Then, he goes around with a bullhorn saying that he speaks for all. He rants and raves in such a manner most of the time, that I think, really damages legitimate truthers. Most unawake people, see something with Alex Jones name on it and immediately think that whatever it is must be some kind of crazy theory because he believes it.

    On another note, but semi related, did anyone actually know Jef Harvey? Like actually know him? I was pretty freaked out after all these scientist deaths. Something's he said threw up alarms and I have done some research after he died and can't find anything that actually makes me believe he was a real person, not just some internet alternative media personality. I can't find any information that someone with that name actually died. I also found it suspect that he just threw out in an interview that he knew somehow that he would be In The intelligence community, so he didn't have his picture taken for his senior year. That just seems to me like he would be trying to hide something.

    One last thought: TPTB keep those not awake controlled, entertained, and psychologically abused by films, news media, etc. we must know that they try to do the same to the alternative community, just in different ways, most likely by "others" in the alternative community and information coming out in the alternative community.

    My apologies for the thread hijack, these things have been weighing on my mind for a while. I really wanted to hear others views on this. As I stated above, I always reserve my right to change my mind, given new information. I was hesitant to bring some of this up, because one of the last people to really question AJ was banned, and I really enjoy this community. But que sera sera, right?
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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

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    This reminds me a little of Charles. That was a long time ago. I never got the full story on what happened with Charles. To my knowledge, Bill has never given us the full story on what happened. I was one of those who really believed Charles at first. That might be why I am so skeptical of Shane?
    Contrary to the verdict of the internet jury (which often gets things wrong!), Charles was totally for real. He tried to make a break, got taken 'back in' a few months after he had contacted me (he was in a position in which he had no choice), and thereafter — by his own admission to me when I asked him the direct question — was playing both sides. After that, let us say, the situation became very tricky.


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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

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    he said he was assigned to do surveillance on this site during the Bill and Kerry thing.
    "Surveillance" (a charged word for many of us!) is a kind of misnomer in this context. Shane was asked to watch out for us, in a supportive way. There was nothing underhand about it.

    Soon after he joined the forum, he wrote me a most courteous, straight-up PM (I have it archived: this was back in 2010) and told me directly that I was supported by those he was connected with, who were quietly watching everything we did with great interest, and that I and Kerry also had his (Shane's) strong personal support.

    Shane's integrity has been absolute throughout. We still are supported, and we are still watched. I very much appreciate that, and don't mind at all that we have invisible 'white hat' friends. They will no doubt be reading this thread with some interest.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Regarding the lack of emotion on Shane's behalf that a few members have brought up, I would like to add this.

    When one has past experience of traumatic events, events that may have taken place over a long period of time, it is not unusual that when the experiencer relays these events there is a lack of emotion overall. These events are not 'news' to the experiencer, they will have learned to accept what has happened to them and live with it. For arguments sake, let's say Shane experienced a traumatic event one month ago and finds himself on camera talking about it......... No doubt, as this event is still 'fresh', that the emotion present would be all too telling, he would not have had the time to deal with it on an emotional level. This is in no way true for everyone, but has to be taken into consideration in all fairness.

    I myself am on the fence, so to speak. I quite clearly understand all the views present in this thread. We, for whatever reason, all find ourselves here, in this little corner of the internet exactly because of a thread like this. It is also worth taking into consideration that we are all at different levels, for want of a better word, on our individual, and collective, journey towards truth.

    Accepting without questioning is the height of ignorance, not to mention we leave ourselves open to any snake oil salesman who may come along. In my eye's, Shane has handled himself with courtesy and politeness at all times, whether you believe what he has to say or not. Let us afford him the same courtesy, but still ask the difficult questions.


    Regards.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Shane,

    I want to thank you for your honesty, openness and generosity. I have no doubt of your intentions and am pleased to discover someone new with your strength of character. I would like to hear more. Kerry, thankyou for your time and effort.

    I'd also like to suggest (to people harboring doubts) that expressing these doubts isn't constructive.

    Kindly.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Quote “It's something new.. I understand it's confusing.. But it's simply called: honesty.” – Shane.
    Shane is a personal dear friend of mine (prior to the blog), and a gentleman in all-ways and most consistent in his honesty. He is a survivor with a big heart full of unconditional love for humanity. I have the highest respect for him.

    I am one of his close friends who asked him to continue sharing his stories when The Ruiner blog was coming to an end as it clearly was helping so many other creator souls join the pieces together (referring to the unintended audience).

    For those who have properly read The Ruiner Blog will see Shane is quite unique with the perspectives he has.

    I very much look forward to hearing his future interview with Bill.

    I would just like to make a mindful suggestion; I sense the interview’s direction is a platform to understand what Shane knows of the bigger picture from his own unique perspectives and experiences; his own stories stand on their own, imho. He is also a very spiritual person, so I hope the interview at times expands beyond just focussing on the dark aspects.

    Another suggestion: For those who wish to compare Shane with ‘such and such’ persons or channellings, can you please consider doing this outside of the interview questions. Comparing a flower with an orange and a teaspoon is not always useful.

    Shane has always been respectful responding to others. Of course it is everyone’s prerogative and free will to like or dislike whatever ……… yet common courtesy doesn’t cost anything.

    I wish you all the best Bill in your forthcoming interview with Shane!

    And a big thank you I send to Shane for changing his mind and continuing his sharing’s for another audience.

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    Default Re: Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

    Thanks for your post Realeyes. You brought up some good ideas. It might help if Shane and his friends no longer mentioned the "unintended audience" point, as that has been brought up by him and others more than a dozen times. I hope Bill's interview focuses on the future, and the positive aspects of learning.

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