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    Quote Posted by Deega (here)
    Thanks Bashi for your interesting comments,

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    Are you aware of real possibilities that was given to you, or, you’re throwing hypothesis..? And admitting your hypothesis is good, we are invited by the representative of the Annunaki Nation (do you see it that way?) to let then know what we think of what is coming..., would this seem reasonable...?



    I concur that “suspended judgment” would be the appropriate gesture. But, emotions run high for many members, even passion is in for some members, so, it is really hard not to questioned this interview.



    Then, may I conclude that it’s the Annunaki, the Reptilian (Queen, Bush, Kissinger likes – as reference by David Ickle, Arizona Wilder) race trying to get in openly. Unfortunately, they want to be in on their conditions, it would be great, at least, if we would be considered partners, you will agreed!



    Do you have any clue...?, and Yes!, this would be interesting, but what outside forces, from which galaxy, for what purposes...?



    What do you see here...?, is it something we are already familiar...?, and may you share what you hold...?


    Unfortunately, I will end up in the state your implying, but I’m not sure if I will be in with the means it takes to react, I’m talking about death. On the other side, if ever a powerful event occur near Earth, and we are caught up in a vortex where we lost our benchmarks, we will surely be panicky to start with, but, we will be able to analyze as best we can (if we can!) the situation and live through it, a new beginning, if still alive, hope that it will be liveable.



    Your right! And unfortunately, Bill seems so impress by this guy, and we are critical like we should be, “suspended judgment” would surely help, but it’s overwhelming!

    All my blessings.

    Deega


    I think these are all good questions to get forwarded to Charles et al...

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    Quote Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
    so the ego is the WALL??
    Not exactly my meaning. The wall, in my estimation, ie an 'edge' of the experiment, might be ...the lack of understanding or personal lack of self control -when the full shape of the thing is directly on their table.

    The story, for a fairly long time now, has been that the limit of the sphere of influence for the dis-incarnate who do not return to the source, is that which surrounds the earth.

    In my meager experience in this area, when I took it upon myself to deal with my own ego function and also at the time time, simultaneously remove blocks on my kundalini..I was told, at that time, by one individual that I had no limit on me, with regard to leaving the sphere of influence that limits souls or excursions to the earthly area.

    When I did this, i went into what is known as 'the sleepless state' where one barely sleeps at all. Maybe an hour per night. I did this for over 1.5 years, closer to two years.

    The interesting part is how the intensity followed the astrological patterning to a perfect fit. The moon cycles were the most intense. At that time of my life, I could see through probability and time and I could manifest as a more solid apparition in remote places than one would think. I could also overlay or juxtapose myself on other beings or even people. it was a fascinating bit of stuff to be sure.

    As well, when the barriers drop, one gains a more diverse and open level of logic and intelligence. In my particular case, I found that no questions in the realm of physics were possible to escape me. Time, I would still need -to work through the given question, but the end was, to me, a pretty powerful certainty. Most importantly ethics, morality, logic, etc are in that mental state, far far less ego driven. For the question and answer set is substantially shifted through knowledge.

    Most specifically, when one drops the coloration of the ego, visualizations and understandings that can come through are similarly clarified, shifted, and changed.

    You are looking, seemingly, for absolutes. black and whites. That, IMO and IME, comes from ego influence. defining borders and shapes in order to know where one stands so one can 'feel safe'. I'm not in the answer business. I'm in the realm of hoping to inspire thought, so people can find their own answers.

    In my understanding of it....Black and white worlds and the providing of safety and answers ---is the core of the problem presented here. It is an ego imperative that is pushing for it.
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    Ok, I am going to try my first post to this thing.

    To begin with, this is an interesting thread, in terms of seeing how people react to the information in the interview. I have to say that, in many respects, I am a bit underwhelmed. I get the notion that it bears repeating that this was not an easy exchange for anyone involved. I also think it needs more thinking vs. the reacting it has received, at this point.

    I was surprised to see so much time given to the idea "Bill sold out" expressed in varying degrees. Passion is a fine thing for motivation, but it seldom makes sound decisions. My impression of the interview, the one I am using while I think on it, is closer to the idea of when "Nixon went to China".

    Seen in this light, you can probably throw out any standards about whether or not Charles, or anyone behind him "lied". Please! Don't be that silly. It benefits no one. Neither Bill nor Charles is "Satan" in this exchange. It seemed very plain to me that both parties knew they were speaking to an adversary.

    Of course this means you lie! And being offended by that simple fact is not going to move things at all. What becomes important is to:
    * Take what information you can away from the encounter, and DO something with it!! (No, hand-wringing does not count)
    * Do your best to keep a dialog going.

    If you think Charles is who he says he is, even remotely, then what you have here is dialog from someone connected to something as yet only spoken of in terms or rumor. Given that...

    Wouldn't it be a much more productive to spend the time on what to do with the information?

    Now, it seems to me that the way to do this, isn't about reacting to the delivery of new information, but instead what to do with said info. For instance, as I write this there are 381 posts to this thread. Why aren't at least 300 of them about independent, non-GMO farming efforts? Seed banks, and the like?

    If you ask me (and I just did), this is the perfect thing to be about. All the whining about the "evil beast" before us is completely irrelevant, unless this is countered. Not with "warfare", but with independent energy spent on the simple act of going another way.

    Think about the fact that, whatever other resistance you might have planned becomes a complete waste of time, if someone shuts the food off. "Where now be your well-laid plans?" Your ability to say no, peacefully, or otherwise, is gone. Unless you have long ago (meaning right now) gone another way.

    There must be at least 10 other bits of information in this encounter that can be used to begin taking apart what we've known for a long time. While I wish it weren't so, my impression is that, if a vote were taken today, most of the posters here would simply elect to shoot the messenger, and go one from there.

    Is this the best answer at hand?

    Choose again.

    Fred

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    Quote Somehow this issue of "interference" and "meant to be" is not entirely clear to me.
    Bill mentioned something about a lion jumping on the deer…
    Can you please shed some more light on it?
    remember the concluding scene from gibson'e apocalypto when cortez's ships approach the shores of aztec land ..the aztec protagonists interpret the event as something which "was meant to happen" (end of their civilization as professed by their legend) and discontinue the chase...now, did cortez go into conqest because it was fortold he would conquer aztecs? ...when treated as gods, cortez and his lethal thugs do not deny the honour..this could be described as interference on cortez's part and in realtion to what i think charles meant...it's a trick in esssence..

    i missed bill's "a lion jumping on the deer"...where was it?


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    Hi, All:

    I've arrived back at my desk just now, after a few days traveling. Tomorrow (Wednesday 5 Jan) I'll be able to start answering questions in detail.

    I'll explain as much of the backstory as I can without crossing over agreed lines. I'm not going to do anything tonight except catch up a little... I'm pretty tired.

    In the meanwhile, this post (added a few hours ago) is important - my deer-and-the-gamekeeper metaphor. Do please take a look if you missed this important clarification.

    There's also much more that I can start to lay out rather more clearly, in a form that's as easy to digest as possible. Please bear with me in the meantime.

    And welcome, again, to all the most recent new members - you're in the highest quality forum on the internet.

    My best wishes to everyone - Bill

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    Quote Posted by Fredkc (here)
    Ok, I am going to try my first post to this thing.

    To begin with, this is an interesting thread, in terms of seeing how people react to the information in the interview. I have to say that, in many respects, I am a bit underwhelmed. I get the notion that it bears repeating that this was not an easy exchange for anyone involved. I also think it needs more thinking vs. the reacting it has received, at this point.

    * * *

    There must be at least 10 other bits of information in this encounter that can be used to begin taking apart what we've known for a long time. While I wish it weren't so, my impression is that, if a vote were taken today, most of the posters here would simply elect to shoot the messenger, and go one from there.

    Is this the best answer at hand?

    Choose again.

    Fred



    Thank you, Fred.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Not exactly my meaning. The wall, in my estimation, ie an 'edge' of the experiment, might be ...the lack of understanding or personal lack of self control -when the full shape of the thing is directly on their table.
    .....

    You are looking, seemingly, for absolutes. black and whites. That, IMO and IME, comes from ego influence. defining borders and shapes in order to know where one stands so one can 'feel safe'. I'm not in the answer business. I'm in the realm of hoping to inspire thought, so people can find their own answers.

    In my understanding of it....Black and white worlds and the providing of safety and answers ---is the core of the problem presented here. It is an ego imperative that is pushing for it.
    Thanks for the clarification. Actually I firmly occupy the GREY area............

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    i missed bill's "a lion jumping on the deer"...where was it?


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    it was at the same time mentioned as a reply to Charles.

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    Here is a discussion about Charles' Project Avalon interview on the Universal Truth Evolution blogtalk radio show.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/univers...portant-discus

    Good points are made and it worth watching.

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    When you know there is an ultimate authority, God Creator call it what you will, and that you are the master of your destiny here and destination after death
    As you sow so shall you reap.
    Then whats the worry?
    Its all set up with the rules of the cosmos which includes karma, all balanced, all fair.
    Just be kind to all life including your own, no matter what and that of course includes Charles and members of 66.
    It will come back to you as it must, if not in this life time then later.
    The 66 are also bound by rules of karma.

    The moment you think you are controlled then you are in the victim perpetrator mode.
    Just dont go there.
    Charles seems to want to take Avalon further down the rabbit hole.

    Nassim Hariem says that the Old Testiment covers the technical power of the Ark of the Covenant and Alien "intervention" regarding pyramid building Red Sea parting etc.
    People who came in contact with the Ark either got burned (radiation) or got special powers (Charles - machine -sickness I wonder)

    Nassim also says the New Testament is about developing spiritually so that we would be worthy of and could safely handle advanced technology without blowing up the world with our war like nature. 95% of our history we have been at war.


    So basically look to personally evolve spiritually, that is in my opinion the way forward.
    Charles and 66 seem to be a distraction from that at least so far into the dialog.

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    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Quote Posted by lightblue (here)
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    [SIZE="3"]please pay attention to what "charles" was saying when confronted with bill's interference "allegation" - he said that the inetreference or the way it "was meant to be" could be considered as one and the same...i read into it: they are intrefering when either: the humanity's actions precipitate the credible "interference" , which gets accepted as a natural sequence/result of events; or when the change is due anyway, let's say induced by higher forces - i think we are due a big change from sources other than the 33 ...
    This line of thoughts might be interesting. But I still do not fully understand what you mean.

    It brings me to this question : Could the suppression of 95% of the population be allowed? Where would all these souls go? Would non interference rule still stand in such a drastic plan?

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    Quote Posted by 3optic (here)
    I hope you've factored in that they're 1/3 of the way through a multi million year project taking a 100,000 year meeting and they're not taking calls.
    not to be cavalier when discussing a very serious subject - but especially they are not taking collect calls

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    Quote Posted by bilko (here)
    Come on PTB, unlock the vaults.
    Let us know our history so we have true freedom of choice. Then, you can be sure that any that incarnate here again are on board voluntarily.
    They don't hold the key, you do - we all do!
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    thanks again for an interesting interview, looking forward to a follow up to this, ive been following camelot a few years so didnt really surprise me. i know of monsanto too.lol. tho you dont mention names in vid, didnt know they do not produce seeds tho so was interesting, suppose its like the banana trees of today. look when that bug hit them and was worried we lose them. so i understand what he is saying about the control of food. was he on about the skeletons on the moon i wonder, as i said, really looking forward to the continuation of this. excuse any spelling mistakes too.lol

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    p.s happy new year to all also and hope 2011 can be a good year and not a bad one like some have predicted

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    we did see the food crisis coming as soon as it started being used to fuel our cars...

    Now with Gas prices rising, more and more food will be taken from the mouths of babes to feed our gas guzzling transports...

    we could be moving around in trains powered by magnetism, autos powered by vortex air generators...

    if the 33 would allow free energy inventions, we have enough food for everyone on this planet...


    so what could we possibly offer the 33 to change their minds?


    how about the Templar treasures they took from you and hid?
    or a key to the gateway you need opened to allow the crossing to happen?
    are you looking to communicate with the ETs stopping your plans?

    The game is on and we're holding aces that money can't buy...

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    Quote Now with Gas prices rising, more and more food will be taken from the mouths of babes to feed our gas guzzling transports...
    ooo, this never occurred to me. Create a food shortage + make money of alternative fuel... Sneaky.

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    reposting this since it felt like I've put some good hours into this whole experience on the outside chance that it is for real.

    I havent gotten any worthwhile response or dialogue with Bill or Kerry or anyone else for that matter.

    I am feeling a bit like, FTH, good for the "Game Wardens" at this point.

    Haven't been so disappointed in Humanity since I was in Elementary school and learned about how we are depleting the Ozone layer.


    Quote Posted by Thunderbird (here)
    I once had a very insightful conversation with John Perkins the man who wrote "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," at some random event that he was speaking at.

    He shook my hand in what I thought was an awkward way. I obviously didn't know what the proper way to shake his hand was. lol. He later intimated that the thought that I was there to kill him had crossed his mind.

    Now, I am by NO means any sort of character that would be doing anything CLOSE to that sort of thing. I was just some random guy at a random event, but I could tell that he was genuinely concerned. Perhaps he was far past the line and men such as "Charles" had paid him "soft" visits in the past.

    After all, he was one of the people who DID do some of the "softer" persuasion tactics that "Charles" describes, only he "worked" with heads of state. Whether "Charles" does or not is inconsequential.

    John's message was one of self control, voting with your dollars, and becoming educated as to the true workings of the world. He wanted to give people a chance.

    Interestingly, he said this to me when i asked him about free energy....
    "Look at what we've done with energy since the industrial revolution...how much more would we mess up the planet if it was abundant and everywhere. "

    At the time i didn't like the answer. I didn't want to, because I believed in the over whelming goodness of mankind. I believed everyone was like me, able to exist in homeostasis with our environment, wanting the highest good for all beings. Now, i am aware that the world is a business model and as well intentioned as i was...i was living in fairy tale land.

    Now, of course it is also telling that a man of his nature, position, and previous work habits was afraid for his life. That displays the commitment of the people he worked on behalf of and the seriousness they prescribe to their dealings.

    I am not here as a judge of men by any stretch of the imagination, however I would like to take the moment to point out how committed they are to what they might consider a "lowest collateral" global takeover.

    Why forcibly enslave the globe through military force only to watch it crumble the minute it is in place, when you can with enough patience and determination position the planet to create your favored outcome. To quote "Charles," is it murder to kill 30 people to save 300,000?

    Rather than conquer the globe with force, as has been done countless times throughout history to no avail, they have devised what I must appreciate as a tactical, patient, strategic, well hidden, well thought out plan that is laser like in its attention to detail and scope. It DOES meet what I presume is their criteria for a "bloodless" coup, though it may not meet yours. It DOES display an attempt at doing the right thing by their measure.

    After all, isn't it reasonable from their perspective as evidenced by "Charles" to get rid of a couple problems rather than actively kill millions? Aren't they presumably trying to make a utopian, healthy, advanced planet and civilization?

    We mustn't prescribe our moral values on a culture that has an entirely different modality, and cultural value, as abhorrent as you may judge it to be. Remember they do not consider it killing off the population if the population isn't smart enough to figure out whats going on and know how to be self sufficient if food production is cut off.

    I for one would LOVE to live in a world where such tactics, strategies, and force aren't necessary. Alas, at this point in Humanity's evolution this does not seem to be the case. If I COULD swipe my hand and make it that way I would, but as it is not that way AND we have been "dealt a ****ty hand" as was said earlier somewhere in this forum, I make this series of propositions:

    1. Deal with it.
    It is unpleasant. It is ****ty. You don't run the show. You don't even run the green room at the show. You're lucky to be in the audience at all at this point. you've walked into a room and people are playing a game that you don't know the rules. you don't even know the name of the game!

    2. That fact is "the Elite" are you.
    You must forgive yourself of all your faults. You must forgive yourself for being manipulative, deceitful, cruel, heartless, and any and all of the horrible things you prescribe to these folks. If you see it in them, its because its in you at some level, even if its benign. This was the hardest part of this process for me over the past few years, accepting my own characteristics that limited me.

    If you want to get heady about it, think of the globe as a whole organism. We individual humans are "thoughts" on this planet. Here for a blink of an eye. Imagine your life sped up to one fraction of a second and watch it from space. You would look like a lightning bolt across the face of the globe...or rather a firing of neurons in a brain. These divine (aren't we all?) human beings "running" the planet could be thought of as fundamental "egoic" thoughts concerned with self preservation, control, making sense of a chaotic field of information. They have a fundamentally important role to play in the character of our civilization, just as having those same thoughts scaled down to the individual level protect you and help you function and stay alive in your own experience. Every one makes order out of chaos throughout their WHOLE lives.

    3. If we are to create a world together, it has to be "together."
    Everyone's needs must be met without judgement. Any good business person and negotiator will find out what each party's needs, wants, and deal breakers are and come up with solutions that meets each party's needs without pushing the deal breakers.

    4. There are NO "shoulds"
    The world "shouldn't" be this way. the world "shouldn't" be that way...It is what we make of it.

    5. Accept your power
    If you were to accept about yourself what the "elite" have accepted about themselves in the first place...NONE of this would be happening. They accept that they are powerful. They accept that they are divine. They ACCEPT that the world is what THEY make of it. AND....THEY ARE ACTING ON IT. And, by their account doing the best they know how to do. What's your excuse?

    6. Look at the georgia guidestones.
    Want to know what they want? Look there. If I were to paint a global civilization Id pretty much do what it says. It makes sense. I mean, these families HAVE had hundreds if not thousands of years to come up with a vision, make a business plan, and implement it. Of course, its that pesky first one thats got the masses all riled up now hasn't it. Population at 500,000,000 i believe? I mean everything else is pretty dang reasonable, heck even desirable...

    So population....
    I would offer that it isn't so much a problem of how many, but rather management. Specifically, management of resources. I have stated that I believe the planet CAN sustain Billions and Billions of people if resources were managed properly, and organizational structures were created properly. I would go so far as to assert that a form of socialism were necessary to manage that many people and systems. It would, however require "buy in."

    If a clearly defined vision of what we are trying to create were proposed and people were inspired to create it with the type of leadership people like JFK, MLK, and Ghandi represented and some creative marketing thrown into the mix, while still giving functioning power to the people who hold the cards, so to speak, then we have a starting point. I believe this is what "they" were attempting to do with "Barry Sotero" or whatever people think his name is.

    JFK's problem was that from 'their" perspective he was gonna f-up the whole business model....the FED.

    I'd say to would be revolutionaries...can't have a revolution unless your willing to eat rats.

    As Bill stated in his opening, the technology IS there to make this vision real. We CAN clean up this mess. We CAN provide food, water, clean energy, and the basics to people of the world, perhaps in exchange for directed effort towards the goals of the planet.

    We could control the population with incentives, tax breaks, what have you, if people will limit THEMSELVES to a certain amount of children.

    We could keep nation states, make WW3 the highest ratings "war game" that helps nations resolve trade disputes, generates billions of dollars, doesn't kill anyone, but still trains soldiers to go into space and defend our planet. Which i believe is VERY important.

    With a little patience and dedication we could really come up with all sorts of workable, desirable, solutions.

    but for now....I must go to sleep.

    Goodnight.

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    I'll respond Thunder. I saw that post already and I largely disagree with most of what you say.
    Particularly the latter half of the post. It seems like you have been assimilated into Orwellian thinking and ideals.

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    Seems to me like a dedicated youth with great vision has spent time learning realities of life...and feels like he has hit a wall..

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    The last thing to happen before change comes, is the negativity has to be complete -it has to be at it's peak. It will naturally be at its peak.
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