THE RULERS OF THE WORLD: a new Project Avalon video interview

[greybeard]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The last thing to happen before change comes, is the negativity has to be complete -it has to be at it's peak. It will naturally be at its peak.

Yes Carmody. The human race or the way we live has become dysfunctional.
Chaos has to reign before change can occur.
Chris

[Tuza]

Still talking as if this 33 are the be all and end all. I don't give them any power, I don't give the green slimies any power. There is a power that people seem to be forgetting. I am putting my faith in that power.

[Fractalius]

Greybeard. Chaos is a catalyst to change. Change is a choice. The choice was always available at any time, so chaos is not necessarily compulsory. However at each turn, the failure to choose balance has swung the pendulum further and further in the direction of chaos being required. I am suggesting that yes your post is correct, now. But it was maybe not always necessary. How far back one goes to when it was not necessary is the question, and I know I am splitting hairs here. Effective change DOES need to come from an event that changes the outlook of EVERYONE. Meaning, to change but only a small township, is not effective. If one 'township' began living in order, they would be victimised and taken advantage of by others. The best way to change EVERYONE, is from EVERYONE being presented with the lesson that is most appropriate to them alone. The use of money to try and unify a tool to use to prompt such things in EVERYONE, is maybe prudent in some areas yet it has also caused further problems.
IME/O. Each persons, personal 'chaos' is a thing which is governed by all that is. Not by other beings whom are also subject to the laws of karma. However, they can be part of an equation, a tool used by all that is. They just aren't, all that is.

[ScubaMonkey]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
My opinion at the moment, based on the responses I've read so far on this forum and elsewhere, is that it's unlikely that Charles would do another interview, or that much more information (if any) would be sanctioned by the controlling group.

Hi Bill,

I can only assume that this means he doesn't feel the interview made a difference. It may interest Charles to know (or he simply may not care) that one thing has stuck in my mind at least. Now don't get me wrong, I'm by no ways convinced about him but he said one thing, he effectively issued a challenge, and it's been nibbling away at my brain since watching the video on New Years Day.

He challenged us to turn our TV's off for 14 days. Not to even watch videos on-line, and see what the difference is. Now for many on this forum I know this would not be a big deal, but I'm a guy that loves his TV. I live on my own and I'm one of the guys with a giant plasma screen and all the seats in the living room point towards it. If I'm in the house the TV is on, even if I'm reading or doing other stuff. Hell, I even fall asleep most nights watching camelot/avalon videos or the like.

What he said made me think about the amount time I spend on TV, DVD's, computer games etc. The thought of going without it completely genuinely worries me. My thoughts are still that I don't think I could cope, its generally how I unwind after work for a start. Tonight I've discussed this with friends who are definitely not "awake" (although I did get one of them to nearly sit through Zeitgeist ), and they think I'm crazy and couldn't last a day, saying as I watch more s**t than any of them.

So, if you speak to Charles and if you think he'd be bothered, please let him know I'm taking him up on his challenge. From Monday my TV will not go on and I'll watch no videos, etc, online. I think I'm still going to allow music but no radio, but I'm not sure. I'll try this 14 day challenge as my own little experiment. I may even document it somewhere - although I'm not sure, as I've never done anything like that before. The reason I'm waiting till Monday is that I have people stopping this weekend and they'll want the TV on. There's also a few things in my planner I'm wanting to watch first. I also need to stock up on books that I have not read yet!

It may be a tiny thing, but one thing he said made a little difference.

p.s. I should also add the caveat that this now joins my new years resolutions of stopping smoking and getting fit, so it's entirely possible that I'm biting off more than I can chew with all three of these things.

[Carmody]

The mind chatter will increase,and your ego will have no way to focus you on anything but itself. What will happen is you will be nervous. In free fall, to a degree.

What will happen is that your mind will begin to wake up. Two weeks will cover the beginnings of the murmurings.

You will be in the beginning of the process of re-claiming your mind from the sewer of noise that media and television is.

Mankind, and the individual... do much better without the noise, overall. one's brain starts to work again.

And..IMO and IME, if one is watching television, and dealing directly with major media, their brain is not working at full capacity. Even though they feel it may be - it really isn't.

You understandings of how the world actually is... will increase, not decrease. The noise is in itself, the heart of the crime. However, it needs be witnessed first hand in order to understand that point.

The sooner you get yourself away from the television, the sooner you will get down the road to understanding that.

Remove ALL news. All major media. No newspapers, no news shows, nothing. Silence the chatter and you will find you advance faster, not slower. Music is natural, necessary, so yes, include real and actual music.

[Fractalius]

Agree Carmody. Been a non TV fellow for quite a few years. This also brings me to make comment regards a post regarding the types of people on this forum for instance, being a 'pinnacle'. I was going to post at the time but refrained. It may be true that there are 'awake' people here, yet the pinnacle, are not interested in the chatter. Gauging level of energy from sites such as this is only an indication as to the level of those who are still thinking not being.

[Tuza]

Am I missing something here, I thought we all had free will and that we had a soul. I feel empathy for Charles on a soul level I do, once we have left the body we can actually see clearly where we went askew. I am certainly not going to take anything on board that does not resonate with my inner feeling of things.

One thing I feel as I have said before the dark cabal had a wad of time and that time is closing fast. I would like to see Charles live the rest of his life in peace and contemplation but I also would like to see everyone on the planet have this and they don't. Life here is extremely unfair.

I am getting extremely annoyed with youtube videos in this field of people espousing that through this ritual and that power souls are taken, taken where. If that be the case I shall ask the higher power I believe in to take them back where they should be, from whence they first originated.

I have faith in other souls here don't give them any power. You used to put a half smile on my face Thunderbird with your optimistic posts, I miss those.

[Thunderbird]

I HAVE hit a wall.
And, i just don't want to play anymore.

[ScubaMonkey]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Remove ALL news. All major media. No newspapers, no news shows, nothing. Silence the chatter and you will find you advance faster, not slower. Music is natural, necessary, so yes, include real and actual music.

Thanks, Carmody.

I've been watching the alternative "game" now for about two years, simply as it interests and entertains me. I rarely watch major media nowadays, although I watch BBC news on occasion. Not for actual news obviously, but just to see what they are trying to say is going on in the world. Normally I watch comedies, sci-fi, documentaries, various series' of things and movies. As for newspapers, I may pick one up in the break room at work if I'm looking for a cheap laugh but that's all.

As for music, I've an eclectic taste and like a bit of classical here and there but for the most part it's gona be good old Rock and Roll.

Although I'm daunted by this experiment, I think I'm becoming a little excited too!

[Tuza]

Now I am a bit annoyed Thunderbird, you were optimistic and I hear what your saying and I felt the sense when you were first on PA that you were involved with the high flyers etc, etc.

If it gets down to the wire hon rather than accept any implant I will take myself out and maybe a few with me and ask my God for understanding.

[Anchor]

Posted by Thunderbird (here)
I HAVE hit a wall.
And, i just don't want to play anymore.

It will break, you wont... then after that you will play your heart out

[Faunus]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
They believe they are the guardians of the experiment (or the project) that is the human race. They are planning for an outcome that's two million years away in the future. They don't care at all what happens tomorrow or next week or next century, as long as the project is on track.

Did you get any hints whatsoever about what that outcome is about?
My intuition tells me they were not the initiators of this so-called "human experiment", so what made them decide to suddenly adopt us?
I also get the sense that their project has "changed course" several times during the past million years,
and that the game is getting increasingly unpredictable... which indicates that "the rules" are being rewritten beyond their control.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
As Charles tried to explain, the 33 'ruling families' have a totally different concept of time. That's because they're a third of the way through a three million year project - and are in it for the long haul. Do they care about you and me? Of course not. Why would they? Their concern is the DNA - not the people.

Like Neo-Darwinist Richard Dawkins' controversial book The Selfish Gene, individual animals may just be the way that the DNA propagates itself. Like the chicken being just the way that the egg creates another egg.

If they are so concerned with the DNA, then why damage it with every conceivable poison and self-destructive emotion?
Are they simply throwing the kids into the pool so see who can swim and who will drown?
Is this their idea of "speeding up" evolution?

Or are they merely securing their food source by keeping us ignorant of our true potential...
I don't think they like the idea of too many people waking up.

With million-year projects they are likely seeing things from a slightly higher density than most people... but that doesn't necessarily make them wise.

[Ahkenaten]

Posted by ScubaMonkey (here)
Hi Bill,

I can only assume that this means he doesn't feel the interview made a difference. It may interest Charles to know (or he simply may not care) that one thing has stuck in my mind at least. Now don't get me wrong, I'm by no ways convinced about him but he said one thing, he effectively issued a challenge, and it's been nibbling away at my brain since watching the video on New Years Day.

He challenged us to turn our TV's off for 14 days. Not to even watch videos on-line, and see what the difference is. Now for many on this forum I know this would not be a big deal, but I'm a guy that loves his TV. I live on my own and I'm one of the guys with a giant plasma screen and all the seats in the living room point towards it. If I'm in the house the TV is on, even if I'm reading or doing other stuff. Hell, I even fall asleep most nights watching camelot/avalon videos or the like.

What he said made me think about the amount time I spend on TV, DVD's, computer games etc. The thought of going without it completely genuinely worries me. My thoughts are still that I don't think I could cope, its generally how I unwind after work for a start. Tonight I've discussed this with friends who are definitely not "awake" (although I did get one of them to nearly sit through Zeitgeist ), and they think I'm crazy and couldn't last a day, saying as I watch more s**t than any of them.

So, if you speak to Charles and if you think he'd be bothered, please let him know I'm taking him up on his challenge. From Monday my TV will not go on and I'll watch no videos, etc, online. I think I'm still going to allow music but no radio, but I'm not sure. I'll try this 14 day challenge as my own little experiment. I may even document it somewhere - although I'm not sure, as I've never done anything like that before. The reason I'm waiting till Monday is that I have people stopping this weekend and they'll want the TV on. There's also a few things in my planner I'm wanting to watch first. I also need to stock up on books that I have not read yet!

It may be a tiny thing, but one thing he said made a little difference.

p.s. I should also add the caveat that this now joins my new years resolutions of stopping smoking and getting fit, so it's entirely possible that I'm biting off more than I can chew with all three of these things.

Hi Scuba Monkey - your new years' resolutions are laudable. I suspect, though, that ALL of us would ALSO need to pull the plug on our compulsive internet surfing including visits to this Forum for two weeks in order for the full withdrawal from the "THEY LIVE" syndrome to be most effective. The control mechanism is just below the threshold of consciousness in the visual display screen and the way light is used...................there was a thread about this control mechanism elsewhere on this Forum.

[Faunus]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The mind chatter will increase,and your ego will have no way to focus you on anything but itself. What will happen is you will be nervous. In free fall, to a degree.

What will happen is that your mind will begin to wake up. Two weeks will cover the beginnings of the murmurings.

You will be in the beginning of the process of re-claiming your mind from the sewer of noise that media and television is.

Mankind, and the individual... do much better without the noise, overall. one's brain starts to work again.

I do not watch TV, but I do watch interviews by Bill Ryan and the likes.
I guess I'm also a bit of an information junkie, but that habit has served me well so far, and helped me deprogram from my childhood programming.
I definitely agree that media fasts are beneficial to the mind, and revealing your addictions and shadow projections. In fact I plan on doing a total darkness retreat in a cave, only drinking my own urine for 9 days. I look forward to that. Will keep you posted.

[Erin]

I watch an extreme amount of TV. But to be fair, I'm in film school and studying to be a writer of television - so I kind of see it as homework, haha. I love TV and film and I think it's a great part of our culture. Is there a lot of crap out there? Sure. Definitely. But due to technological advancements, it's gotten to a point now where you can choose what you want and where you want and how you want to watch TV. You don't have to watch the crap if you don't want to. No one is making anyone watch TV. Turning off the TV isn't going to solve the problem. It's just temporarily relieving a symptom.

In my view, the underlying issue here is our education system. If we didn't raise generations to be idiots, I doubt they would watch idiotic television.

[Faunus]

Posted by cosmiclagoon (here)
In my view, the underlying issue here is our education system. If we didn't raise generations to be idiots, I doubt they would watch idiotic television.

I see your point, but lets face it. Kids these days spend more time in front of the TV than studying whatever meaningless homework the educational system has assigned them.
The dumbed down mass media IS practically raising the young generation. More so now than ever before. If that isn't scary you probably aren't watching enough TV.. or maybe too much..
(not you, cosmiclagoon, you're cool)

And lets not pretend the media and educational system are created with different agendas.
Both are roughly 50% lies, 45% disinfo and perhaps 5% truth, at best.

[Ahkenaten]

Posted by cosmiclagoon (here)
I watch an extreme amount of TV. But to be fair, I'm in film school and studying to be a writer of television - so I kind of see it as homework, haha. I love TV and film and I think it's a great part of our culture. Is there a lot of crap out there? Sure. Definitely. But due to technological advancements, it's gotten to a point now where you can choose what you want and where you want and how you want to watch TV. You don't have to watch the crap if you don't want to. No one is making anyone watch TV. Turning off the TV isn't going to solve the problem. It's just temporarily relieving a symptom.

In my view, the underlying issue here is our education system. If we didn't raise generations to be idiots, I doubt they would watch idiotic television.

Hi Cosmic! Of course you are free to watch TV all you like! I will say that the one person that I have known in my life who in all likelihood was Illuminati did NOT have a TV in his house. When I asked him about that he said simply that he "would not have a TV in his house." I listened up when he said that. On a certain level TV is a gigantic piece of the psychological control apparatus, make no mistake about it. Not only is the persuasion overt, it is more importantly COVERT utilizing the brain and the eye's own innate structures and tendencies against the human organism, i.e. through subliminal light patterns. Check it out. If you are a professional in this area this is something you definitely need to be awake and aware about. There was a thread in this Forum on the very mechanisms employed to control human consciousness through subliminal flickering light patterns............I will try to find the thread and post the link for you here.

OK Cosmic here is the link......... https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ain-with-light

[Erin]

Posted by Faunus (here)
I see your point, but lets face it. Kids these days spend more time in front of the TV than studying whatever meaningless homework the educational system has assigned them.
The dumbed down mass media IS practically raising the young generation. More so now than ever before. If that isn't scary you probably aren't watching enough TV.. or maybe too much..
(not you, cosmiclagoon, you're cool)

And lets not pretend the media and educational system are created with different agendas.
Both are roughly 50% lies, 45% disinfo and perhaps 5% truth, at best.

True, but what about the parents? I know when I was a kid, I was only allowed to watch 1 hour of TV during the school week (in high school I wasn't allowed to watch TV at all during the week - but I had my ways...lol). Young kids typically are not mature enough to realize by themselves that they shouldn't be spending all of their time watching TV (or surf facebook, or whatever). It's easy to blame the mass media, but parents need to take an active role in this, too.

Thanks for thinking I'm cool though, haha!

[Erin]

Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
Hi Cosmic! Of course you are free to watch TV all you like! I will say that the one person that I have known in my life who in all likelihood was Illuminati did NOT have a TV in his house. When I asked him about that he said simply that he "would not have a TV in his house." I listened up when he said that. On a certain level TV is a gigantic piece of the psychological control apparatus, make no mistake about it. Not only is the persuasion overt, it is more importantly COVERT utilizing the brain and the eye's own innate structures and tendencies against the human organism, i.e. through subliminal light patterns. Check it out. If you are a professional in this area this is something you definitely need to be awake and aware about. There was a thread in this Forum on the very mechanisms employed to control human consciousness through subliminal flickering light patterns............I will try to find the thread and post the link for you here.

Oh yeah, I am the first to acknowledge that I know next to nothing about subliminal messaging. I will say that if I have been exposed to it, it hasn't done a very good job, haha!
But definitely, if you could send some stuff my way, I'd love to educate myself more on it.

[NancyV]

Turning off the TV for 14 days may be an interesting experiment if you've never done it, but that's just a stage along the way in my opinion. Hopefully once you've been through the process you will find that you can watch anything you want, hear any advertisements, any political spiels, any scare tactics from the mainstream media, etc. and not be affected. I used to be a fanatic about not watching TV and we were not hooked up to TV other than for movies we owned to play for our children. I bought into being afraid that it would affect us in an extremely negative way. But after about 9 years without TV, computer, etc, I gave up that fanaticism. I have found that it doesn't affect me negatively or brainwash me unless I let it. Demonizing it is worse and means you are weaker than if you develop an immunity to the negative influences it exerts, like the statement "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger."

It sort of goes along with the germ theory my brilliant intellectual mother had. She felt that we didn't need to be fanatical about being overly clean, that germs inoculate us naturally against disease. Maybe that's why I would not be so inclined to reject the raison d'etre of the 33 (they are the germs). If I avoid or reject them and I'm afraid or angry with them, then I will be in a weaker position, because I will be ruled by my fear or anger. I am not angry with a fly when I swat it, for example, since it's just being a fly and doing what flies do. So if we have a chance to hear more about the 33, how they think, what they are doing, I will not be angry with them. If we have to swat them at some point, so be it. I just hope they don't have a bigger fly swatter. (but I bet they think they do)

Nancy