THE RULERS OF THE WORLD: a new Project Avalon video interview

[gripreaper]

A few things that keeps coming back up after several days of rumination, distillation and synthesis.

Consider this> Bill has been a seeker of truth for years and has been on an excellerated path since Project Camelot began. He "thought" he had a pretty good big picture view until he met Charles, and now realizes his whole worldview has expanded, shifted and changed. What I hear when he says this, is that he thought the canvas was "this big" and he found out it was ten times larger. I get the sense he is slightly blown away. He just needed to stand back and he would see it. Apparently Charles has helped him do this.

It takes time to collate it all, distill it down and develop a synthesis that can be expressed in a manner consistent with the level of consciousness and the linguistics we reside in. Textual context can be so limiting! Original communication was done in Cuneiform and Hieroglyphs which has the symbols and emotions embedded in them and could not be understood without the whole brain state with both hemispheres in balance as well as the full emotion of the body. In this state thoughts can instantly manifest in reality because the energy is so concentrated.

What is abundantly clear is that this interview has stirred up an energetic matrix which can either be vampired and used to feed the beast, or can be coalesced to generate an expanded new synthesis. Let us all breathe in and ruminate within the energy and choose not to dissipate it for consumption till we have had a chance to let it rest in our deepest DNA. Righteousness is defined as "the right use of energy" and this is the grand experiment, to choose to focus our energy on the things we passionately feel to create.

I'm fairly sure this is what the 33 are looking at, how the leading edge of the emerging consciousness is ascending and what is the potential threat of outcome? They know they cannot fear monger us, that is for sure, but they can agitate our energy and try to read it for what it may contain.

That is where the truth resides. In the energetic matrix there is not time and there is no place, only energy, which can neither be created or destroyed but only formed and transformed.

[astrid]

Posted by bilko (here)
I like to think it is the obstacles in life that create the darkness like shadows. There is no greater obstacle to overcome than fear.
Remember though that the smallest candle light can penetrate the darkness but no amount of darkness can ever enter the light.

Exactly, this is what those in fear seem to forget.... and its a crucial point to be made ( IMO)

Dark and light are not equal energies. If you have a dark place and light comes in, darkness does not creep away into another dark place. Instead, it's transformed! Of the two, light is the only one that has an active component and a physical presence. You cannot "beam darkness" into a light place! It can only be the other way around. This is because they aren't equal. One is the absence of the other.

Which is why just holding a high vibration has an impact on those who have lesser energies, they can't help but be transformed, as long as we hold steady that vibration.

And knowing also that everything happens on an energetic level, before the physical, it becomes easy to see how important holding as much light as we can becomes to what happens here in solid matter.

[chelmostef]

Woooh! 483 posts and no signs of abating, seriously guys and girls that is a lot of reading!!!!

[jcocks]

And to think, the year has barely even started! I think it's fair to say that this is going to be a BIG year for everyone

[jcocks]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
What is abundantly clear is that this interview has stirred up an energetic matrix which can either be vampired and used to feed the beast, or can be coalesced to generate an expanded new synthesis. Let us all breathe in and ruminate within the energy and choose not to dissipate it for consumption till we have had a chance to let it rest in our deepest DNA. Righteousness is defined as "the right use of energy" and this is the grand experiment, to choose to focus our energy on the things we passionately feel to create.

I'm fairly sure this is what the 33 are looking at, how the leading edge of the emerging consciousness is ascending and what is the potential threat of outcome? They know they cannot fear monger us, that is for sure, but they can agitate our energy and try to read it for what it may contain.

That is where the truth resides. In the energetic matrix there is not time and there is no place, only energy, which can neither be created or destroyed but only formed and transformed.

Absolutely! It's my opinion that, above everything esle, this exchange between charles and bill has opened up a channel of communication between the PTB and bill that shoudn't be wasted, and should be utilised to enable a bigger dialog between us. Maybe they should even have a representative permanently on this board to facilitate this. If this sounds too outlandish for you, then I'm going to throw something at you that may just send you absolutely insane :

What if the reality is that either we all move ahead together ("all" meaning everyone INCLUDING the "pure evil" 33 moving together AS ONE PEOPLE HAND-IN-HAND), or NONE of us move ahead (meaning basically that the people on this planet stagnate and eventually civilisation dies out)?

Now what are we going to do? Are we going to try and talk to these people to get them to change their ways, are we going to try and come up with some real solutions to these problems we face with the technology they possess, or are we just going to say "oh well it can't be done" and then we end up in a situation such as dipicted in the movie "children of men"....

World population at 500,000,000? Killing billions of people by "switching off" the food supply through natural disasters isn't the solution. And calling these people, the 33, "pure evil" isn't going to achieve ANYTHING towards this goal. We need to convince the 33 that anything other than a "win-win" solution means we *ALL* lose (including the PTB - they don't get to inherit the Earth at the expense of 5.5 billion souls! I hope the *DO* realise this!).

I know you guys don't like me saying this because we like to think of them as evil and the idea that we could work together is utterly ALIEN to you, but what if it is the only way to ensure that we move onwards and upwards as a species? (And for them - what if they will die out too if they don't cooperate with us? They must love asserting superiority over us, but what if their only hope of survival is to co-operate with us and work together as a team ensuring the best outcome for all 6 billion souls on this planet?)

I know it sounds crazy, but it's worth considering....

[noprophet]

I also think it's important for the younger people - myself included - to possibly consider not having kids.

Given, "things" happen - but let's say try not to have more than one kid and if you are comfortable with it - don't have any.
I know I may take some flack for this view but I do truly believe that our generation should very much consider this.

Everything aside this is a responsibility we can take on that will truly make a difference.

[jcocks]

I acknowledge your point of view, but I disagree with it. We have a beautiful planet here - why not share it with another? Why not have a child so you can teach it some values?

If you don't want children then that's fine not to have any, but don't go around saying that we shouldn't have children because the world is already overpopulated. That's rubbish, the souls incarnate here are here for a reason - children don't get born unless there's a soul that wants the body.... Don't go enforcing your views on others. The choice to have a child is an individual choice and is not to be made by anyone but the people who want the child.

[noprophet]

Please don't misread my statement of belief as an attempt at enforcement. At no point would I ever suggest enforcement of anything and in no way am I against having children. While I personally have no plans for it currently - I myself have 4 nephews and an angelic niece whom I love dearly. In fact i would not suggest the complete dismissal of birth all together as we would quickly see an end to human civilization.

However I do promote acting responsible with birthing rates. While ideally, yes, families are wonderful - we should not be so quickly dismissing the reality of our situation.

One or two children per family unit is completely feasible and we would certainly see a steady decline in population rates because of this.

Also please do not assume there are not an infinite amount of places all across this universe for every level of existence to incarnate into.
In fact I'm sure there are some that rival even earth's beauty.

Also note that it is not simply a soul wanting to incarnate that instigates it's happening.
There is a vortex created to actually pull the soul in during the sexual process.

I am not judging the present; simply looking to the future.

[Celine]

Posted by noprophet (here)
I am not judging the present; simply looking to the future.

i have 3 kids.. and i most defiently agree with you.


Some might not like what i am about to say.,..but IMHO having children is mainly a selfish act.

i wonder how the western world would react to a "one child limit law"...

[greybeard]

Posted by bilko (here)
This is bothering me now!
Laugh if you want but,
ARE WE GIVING THIS THING A LIFE OF IT's OWN?

I have watched most if not all of the videos that Bill and Kerry have produced and as factual evidence and new material goes, this is one of the more mundane testimonies.

If it were not for Bills testimony we would have finished with this long ago.. I just feel like it is walking and breaking into a jog by itself now.

Please tell me it bothers somebody else and its not just me that feels uneasy. Or don't, at least then i could relate this gut feeling, which btw i feel is much more important than hypothesis, conjecture and theory.

Yes Bilko agree.
It exists but does attention feed it?
see post 390
Chris

[jcocks]

Posted by Céline (here)
i have 3 kids.. and i most defiently agree with you.


Some might not like what i am about to say.,..but IMHO having children is mainly a selfish act.

i wonder how the western world would react to a "one child limit law"...

I have 3 kids as well... But whether or not having children is a selfish act or not depends on your reason behind having them. Personally, I had mine because I love children and I wanted to bring a child into the world to share it with me and to help make the world a better place by bringing up my children with proper morals. I want my children to experience these times for themselves. For me, it was as much about giving 3 beautiful souls a chance to inacrnate into this world as it was having 3 beautiful children to enjoy my time with...

And I don't see my reasons as completely selfish, tho there may be some selfishness in there (as much as I am loathe to admit it).

As for a 1 child law? As long as it was enforced through fines and not imprisonment (ie not a china-style law), and didn't result in the sort of situations that ensued in China and India than I could live with it, tho I am peersonally against it as I don't thnk it would be the most effective way of achieving the desired result.

[Fractalius]

Unfortunately, the making of laws to drive an idea in a direction still seems to be one of the ways this mess was created in the first place. Once you make one, you have to make another, and another. Perhaps described as a wheel of inertia.
What sort of future community is imagined? some families are/were large to have enough people to look after the elderly and to keep things running.
Some living creatures have many young, because their mortality rate is high.
Does a future community pay tax? If so who will work to pay taxes and support an aging population?
As with so many things, if the great majority were more in tune with the higher self than they are now, there would be less need for 'laws'.
Imagining such a completely new utopian paradigm does away with quite a few problems by default?
Discounting raised awareness and connection to higher self returns all the data, and problems?

[Wood]

Posted by Céline (here)
i wonder how the western world would react to a "one child limit law"...

Probably not very well. We have deeply ingrained the idea of personal freedom but we lack proper spiritual/moral education. We should just see we can't destroy the world we live in. At the moment it is pretty evident that we are destroying it due to the combination of our lifestyle and the large population. We should control ourselves and not rely on external imposed laws. I think we should allow people to have as many children as they want. Some people would absolutely need 10 kids to be happy (or to fulfill their task here), but as long as the great majority of the population sees the problem and is happy with two, one or no children at all it would be fine.
We need education, not laws. It is a shame we are getting more and more laws to control all the aspects of our lives while our education is being degraded.

[bluestflame]

would be more constructive to address the wastage first , educate people about the difference between needs and wants ( yes there is a difference )

[Wood]

It is interesting how the story about the machine and the task of the 33 fits with this song:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fBkvcQEGq9k

I remember SpiritWolf suggested a few months ago that his was indeed close to what is going on nowadays, and I think he is quite informed. I think Charles mentions the machine made a mistake, and someone on this thread has connected that mistake to the rise on the population.

Here are the lyrics:

In the beginning was a world
Man said: Let there be more light
Electric scenes a maze of beams
Neon brights to light our boring nights

On the second day he said: Let's have a gas
Hydrogen and CO are of the past
Let's make some germs, we'll poison the worms
Man will never be surpassed

And he said: Behold what I have done
I've made a better world for everyone
Nobody laughs, nobody cries
World without end, forever and ever
Amen, amen, amen

On the third we get green and blue pill pie
On the fourth we send rockets to the sky
On the fifth metal beasts and submarines
On the sixth man prepares his final dream:

In our image, let's make robots for our slaves
Imagine all the time that we can save
Computers, machines, the silicon dream
Seventh he retired from the scene

And he said: Behold what I have done
I've made a better world for everyone

Nobody laughs, nobody cries
World without end, forever and ever
Amen (amen), amen (amen), amen (amen)

On the eighth day machine just got upset
A problem man had not foreseen as yet
No time for flight, a blinding light
Then nothing but a void, forever night

He said: Behold what man has done
There's not a world for anyone
Nobody laughs, nobody cries
World's at an end, everyone has died
Forever amen (amen), amen (amen), amen (amen)

He said: Behold what man has done
There's not a world for anyone
Nobody laughs, nobody cries
World's at an end, everyone has died
Forever amen (amen), amen (amen), amen (amen)

(Amen)

"let's make robots for our slaves"
Are we those robots and the 33 the actual humans, at least from their point of view? Or maybe, more likely, they want to turn us (survivors) into robots (smart individuals that can take orders properly)?

[physicistatwork]

Re FAUNUS: "Not all souls are incarnated at once. Only the most adventurous ones would dare to incarnate on Earth in these times..."

This reinforces my doubt.So there should be even less population now owing to the souls reluctance to reincarnate. However the opposite is true nowadays.???

[K626]

Interesting interview in the sense that it plays on our most common fears regarding the near future. Need to give it another watch.

K

[Ixopoborn]

Posted by norman (here)
That's a very important point that's driving me nuts right now as I struggle to try to 'reply to you'. I'm aware that something very special is going on here and it's a bloody paradox and a half. Sort of like sitting out in the woods wishing all the wild animals would come out of their wild hiding from me and come right up and start a true friendship. Every time my hand goes out to greet them, they scurry away into the undergrowth.

There's a polarity switch between our 'wanting the truth', and, our 'experiencing the truth'. We've had a battered journey to here and many of us had to fight for it. Now we are in danger of 'frightening' the truth away again just as it may well have crept right up to out feet.

Yes Norman - nicely put - I like your metphors to attempt to convey how the horrid reality of the material has affected you. My feelings resonate somewhat - a horrid realisation of just how gigantically huge and challenging our task to bring about changes will be. Thanks

[gripreaper]

Posted by jcocks (here)
Now what are we going to do? Are we going to try and talk to these people to get them to change their ways, are we going to try and come up with some real solutions to these problems we face with the technology they possess, or are we just going to say "oh well it can't be done" and then we end up in a situation such as depicted in the movie "children of men"....

World population at 500,000,000? Killing billions of people by "switching off" the food supply through natural disasters isn't the solution. And calling these people, the 33, "pure evil" isn't going to achieve ANYTHING towards this goal. We need to convince the 33 that anything other than a "win-win" solution means we *ALL* lose (including the PTB - they don't get to inherit the Earth at the expense of 5.5 billion souls! I hope the *DO* realise this!).

I know you guys don't like me saying this because we like to think of them as evil and the idea that we could work together is utterly ALIEN to you, but what if it is the only way to ensure that we move onwards and upwards as a species? (And for them - what if they will die out too if they don't cooperate with us? They must love asserting superiority over us, but what if their only hope of survival is to co-operate with us and work together as a team ensuring the best outcome for all 6 billion souls on this planet?)

I know it sounds crazy, but it's worth considering....

Please consider, was it Einstein who said that a problem cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it? Could playing "hot potato" in third dimensional reality be the potential outcome of such an endeavor? You cannot make someone move to a higher consciousness, but you can emanate a higher consciousness from within that will vibrate within their field and tickle their free will.

Am I saying don't even try or don't discuss the possibility? No, I'm not saying that at all. Open a new thread. Start a dialogue, get the energy to coalesce and increase, by all means.

What I might add to this, is let us all be mindful that the time in three dimensional reality is NOW in the present moment to be as present, focused and respectful of our own energy within, to husband it and increase it and emanate it into the universe consciously with intent, towards loving and compassion especially towards ourselves.

No longer can we circle through endless loops of karma, returning to earth to wallow in the same polarized portion of the same blocked chakra we did last time. As we do increase our life force and are mindful of preserving it, and the first chakra starts to vibrate in ways we have not experienced before, let us not judge it as fear and dissipate it. When the second chakra vibrates with more veracity, let us not judge it as anger and dissipate it. When the third chakra gets a full dose of power, let us not use this power to enter into competition and dualistic endeavors. When the energy moves up the central column after gathering successfully through the terrestrial chakras and enters the heart, let us be especially mindful as to the resonance we feel here. This is when the expanded voice of the superconscious as well and the vision of the third eye emerges, when the crown is open and the circuit is completely hooked up to the earth and flowing freely.

That's where I intend to speak from.

Let's go for it!

[bilko]

Posted by jcocks (here)
"pure evil" 33 moving together AS ONE PEOPLE HAND-IN-HAND),

I found this interesting.
Don't know whether you meant it as tongue in cheek or not but i thought i would state my opinion on the word Evil, so nothing against the OP.

I heard somewhere so can't accept responsibility for original thought here; that no one ever wakes up and thinks " i think i'll do something evil today". Not if they are sane. I don't necessarily think that the 33 are evil ( not saying you do either ), or that they think they are committing evil acts.

Infact i would say that logic dictates that the 33 think their plan is for the best. Mostly because bad things ( with a sane mind ) are done out of fear. It is unlikely that the level of fear needed imo to continue along a path of evil for thousands of years can be maintained. Fear is infact wrong thinking.

If 'THEY' know and i mean really know then it is likely that there is an afterlife and several more after that, otherwise why continue? Why bother if you die and that is that. If one piece of this puzzle is proven to be irrefutably true then we can piece together so many things with so much more certainty.

I lost my download/train of thought, erm....

Yes, logical thinking says that if the most powerful people in the world deem it necessary to instigate population control and culling by introduction of GM crops, then there is infact an after life of some sort.

Whether it is that we are slave souls or infact never die but were tricked into thinking we do or something else we are unlikely to find out for the time being. But i don't think the 33 are making decisions based on fear

I am, and do and i suspect most of you do too. this whole thread is based on fear, fear of dying, fear of pain. If you knew for a fact that death is only a stepping stone, an organic countdown or incident then it wouldn't bother you.

In fact, yes, i would go so far as to say that evil is just a perspective. If death is irrelevant then evil and fear are just experiences albeit not very pleasant ones.

Can we say then that in the absence of fear the 33 feel that their actions are done out of love?

Calm down lol, i'm just looking for a motivation here, i feel it helps

If the answer is yes then i ask them to expand, to explain, to enlighten us. If not then either they are not human or they are insane. Does this make sense to anyone?

Given that there are 33 of them and the timeframe of events past and planned i am thing-ied ( right word ) to rule out insanity. Short of that there is another lie or something which we believe is true but isn't.