Questions for THEWATCHER

[Ara]

Hi Barry, Orion11, Iain and Deb,

Barry my friend, keep up the 'good work' and continue to be yourself.:wink2: Orion11 and Iain-great posts I enjoyed reading them. Deb, it's hard to sit back and watch a friend you admire and respect being treated thusly isn't it? :sad:

I read the posts at the other forum whose URL Carol so kindly posted for us to read. Thank you Carol. :flowers2:

After reading through those posts and seeing how Barry was treated by certain posters I am amazed Barry never lost his cool completely. I felt the frustration Barry was feeling, trying to awaken people to a hidden reality only to be met with ridicule and antagonism. :sad:

I came back from reading those posts with a deeper respect for Barry and his continued plight.

Is his frustration evident in his replies? Yes! All this does is show his humanity and how intensely he feels about bringing his information to the public.

So, a person has two choices as to how to ask a question, one can use an antagonistic approach, ask their questions but surround them with subtly supplied innuendo or, two construct your questions with respect and intelligence.

Barry hasn't said "Believe all that I've said", instead he has asked us to 'Ask him Questions'. 'Questioning' gives us the opportunity to use that gift of reasoning we all have, so let's use it!

People, there is a plethora of information in this thread, it really is a golden opportunity to expand one's understanding and awareness of this hidden reality Barry is apart of. A reality which ultimately affects us all.

One thing which is evident within this thread is how Barry always replied respectfully even when questions were supplied coming from a pre-conceived perspective. :) Since he has proven his dedication to the public how about if we,the public, support him?

So, if it is answers you are seeking, Ask questions!:original:

Let's return the original harmonious attitude to this thread and resurrect a place where people feel comfortable coming.
:gathering:

All the Best
Ara

[solitaryman]

After scanning this thread I must avow that my solitude is a sweet Eden.All those brave souls in this brave world is not for me.Welcome my Solitude!Adieu brave World!

[THEWATCHER]

I cannot blame you, this has turned into a bit of a battlefield, my apologies, do not like to see people wishing to stay away because of this.

Regards


THE WATCHER

[AussieG]

www.astrovera.com/forum/f6/alien-agenda-taking-place-proof-is-in-my-t1155.html

The above link is long and detailed If you have the time and are in a position to comment i would be very interested.
NB you have my vote

[Deb]

Hello Ara,

Your post said it all, and your words are wise and truthful. I can see you are a good person.

Barry, you have some very good people here.

:original:

[THEWATCHER]

Hello Ara,

Your post said it all, and your words are wise and truthful. I can see you are a good person.

Barry, you have some very good people here.

:original:

Some very great people here indeed:original:

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

www.astrovera.com/forum/f6/alien-agenda-taking-place-proof-is-in-my-t1155.html

The above link is long and detailed If you have the time and are in a position to comment i would be very interested.
NB you have my vote


Will read thru, digest, check links and state opinion as soon as i can.


Regards

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Hello Ara,

Your post said it all, and your words are wise and truthful. I can see you are a good person.

Barry, you have some very good people here.

:original:

Thank you Deb. :flowers2:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

I hope everyone had a great Xmas, my warmest regards and best wishes to you all:original:


THE WATCHER

[Helvetic]

Special thanx to Ara & THEWATCHER for this great tread! Wish you all the best!
:thumb_yello:

[Ara]

I hope everyone had a great Xmas, my warmest regards and best wishes to you all:original:
THE WATCHER

Thanks Barry, hope you had a wonderful Xmas too. :flowers2:

Helvetic:
Special thanx to Ara & THEWATCHER for this great tread! Wish you all the best!
:thumb_yello:Thanks Helvetic! Hope your festive season is filled with love, laughter and heaps of great company. :wub2:

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To everyone,
May you all stay safe and experience a wonderful festive season.:) :flowers2:
Best Wishes to All.
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

If it opens me up as a target so be it, but shortly i shall post a timeline of my life where you will see all the dots connected and everything falls into place, a coherant history if you like. Several cans of worms will thus be opened at once.


Regards


THE WATCHER

[sunflower]

Excellent idea, Barry, and very helpful to all who follow this thread.

Best wishes for the New Year and hopefully a great improvement in comfort and health!

[Ara]

If it opens me up as a target so be it, but shortly i shall post a timeline of my life where you will see all the dots connected and everything falls into place, a coherant history if you like. Several cans of worms will thus be opened at once.

Regards
THE WATCHER

Barry,

I imagine your impending revelations will open doors to understanding for many. Thank-You for taking these steps to bring the larger picture into view. :flowers2:

Take Care and May You Stay Safe

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Before I do that I will ask all here if they mind doing a little piece of homework. Please do a little own research into the background of one Dr. Louis Jolyn West (Dr Jolly) CIA Mindcontrol expert. Once you have a working knowledge on him keep it to one side as you will need refer to it later on, when I reach the 1979 stage of the history timeline. This concerns my first wife whom was treated and experimented upon by Dr Jolly and his team in one of his UK projects. Many are under the impression he worked solely in the USA, this is incorrect. He oversaw numerous experiments here in the UK.


Regards


THE WATCHER

[Egg]

The alleged co-founder of Artichoke, Bluebird, MK ULTRA / MONARCH / DYNASTY 'Dr Jolly'?

[THEWATCHER]

The alleged co-founder of Artichoke, Bluebird, MK ULTRA / MONARCH / DYNASTY 'Dr Jolly'?


CIA programmer yes, Dr Jolly

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB54/st02.pdf

Well, we know that artichoke agents went overseas, so why not any of the other projects that spurred off from it? makes perfect sense to me.

[Ara]

CIA programmer yes, Dr Jolly

THE WATCHER




Dr. Louis Joyon "Jolly" West
Mind control programmers (http://www.whale.to/b/programmers.html)

(http://www.whale.to/a/fms.html)

(http://www.whale.to/a/fms.html)
The establishment allowed CIA programmer Dr. Louis Joyon "Jolly" West to examine Jack Ruby in his jail cell. When Ruby refused to admit to insanity, West labelled him "paranoid and mentally ill" and Ruby was placed on pills, which were called "happy pills". Ruby believed he was being poisoned by the establishment. (http://www.whale.to/b/sp/spr12.html)

While Dr. West’s curriculum vitae doesn’t mention that he received Top Secret clearance from the CIA as the contractor on MKULTRA Subproject 43, CIA documents show that grants were given to Dr. West for studies entitled, "Psychophysiological Studies of Hypnosis and Suggestibility" and "Studies of Dissociative States."


Further, "Dr. Lois Jolyon West was cleared at Top Secret for his work on MKULTRA.



West's numerous connections to the mind control network illustrate how the network is maintained---not through any central conspiracy, but by an interlocking network of academic relationships, grants, conferences, and military appointments.



Some doctors in the network were not funded directly by the CIA or military, but their work was of direct relevance to mind control, non-lethal weapons development, creation of controlled dissociation and the building of Manchurian Candidates."



Further, "Dr. West devoted four decades to study, writing and experimentation on dissociation, hypnosis, Communist mind control, hallucinogens, sensory deprivation, and methods of social influence; he concluded that the methods used by destructive cults result in the creation of new identities and dissociative states.



The same methods, when applied to experimental subjects under BLUEBIRD, ARTICHOKE and MKULTRA, also resulted in the creation of amnesia, new identities and dissociated states.

This was the Manchurian Candidate program."(Ross, 2000)


So Louis West, who wanted to start this centre at UCLA, is on the board of FMSF and so is Martin Orne, a Harvard psychiatrist who has done contract work for the CIA in the past.

Pasted for 'future reference'.:original:

[THEWATCHER]

Many thanks Ara, and when we reach the point in my timeline of 1979 you will see the connection, and the possible reason why my first wife tried to kill me in early 1980, just before the facility used procedures on me to get rid of me in January of that year.


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Many thanks Ara, and when we reach the point in my timeline of 1979 you will see the connection, and the possible reason why my first wife tried to kill me in early 1980, just before the facility used procedures on me to get rid of me in January of that year.


THE WATCHER

You are always Welcome. :original:

It sounds as though your first wife didn't have life easy either. How very sad for you both to have endured such a traumatic event.

Sleeper Assassins, the ultimate hidden enemy. :tears:

Barry, I imagine you will address this later on in your time line of events but I'll ask anyway.:original: Why did they want you eliminated? At that time you hadn't begun your public disclosures, yet they still had the need to dispose of you. Why were you a threat to them? They realized 'something' about you?:wink2: 1+1 ? Just trying to connect the dots in my mind.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[Egg]

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=649&page=3

After reading that, I am not interested in an answer.

[THEWATCHER]

You are always Welcome. :original:

It sounds as though your first wife didn't have life easy either. How very sad for you both to have endured such a traumatic event.

Sleeper Assassins, the ultimate hidden enemy. :tears:

Barry, I imagine you will address this later on in your time line of events but I'll ask anyway.:original: Why did they want you eliminated? At that time you hadn't begun your public disclosures, yet they still had the need to dispose of you. Why were you a threat to them? They realized 'something' about you?:wink2: 1+1 ? Just trying to connect the dots in my mind.:original:

All the Best
Ara


Yes i will address this later, the threat perceived by them continues today but other factions hold this at bay, more than one nation involved.

warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Sorry that came out all wrong.

Question is, if you saw the beings as they were made, could you describe their hands and feet, and what their real eye colour is if you saw it at all?

many thanks, Egg.

Indeed when i reach the 1979 facility stage

regards


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Yes i will address this later, the threat perceived by them continues today but other factions hold this at bay, more than one nation involved.

warmest regards

THE WATCHER

Ok understood. Thanks Barry.

I'm looking forward to reading your time-line of events, will be interesting to see where certain pieces of information fit.:original:

Take Care

All the Best

Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Lets begin with Tuesday 10th June 1952, my birth date. We move along to 1954/55 (exact date on file but kept from me) when I was around 2, 2 and a half. That year I contracted double pnuemonia, a killer disease in the 1950's.Rushed to hospital, placed in an oxygen tent in intensive care. My condition worsened, the staff advised my parents to bring in a priest and read my last rites, which they did. I actually died for a few minutes. This is the spooky part. I viewed my small body laying in the bed, my parents sobbing, staff and priest comforting them. I viewed this from the ceiling looking down. Then suddenly a bright light, a whoosh sensation as if being accelerated from stop to high speed then back in my body. Coughing, spluttering and watching mayhem as bewildered staff and parents realised i'd come back to life.

To avoid a very lengthy narrative i will shorten to basics if thats ok. At around age 4 or 5 an event which involved all my family. I recall being in the family front room of our home, awaiting the return of my father. Suddenly there was panic, a large black cloudlike thing was ascending the stairs leading up to our front door. We rushed into the front room and hid behind the large sofa. We watched as the cloud drifted into the room, within seconds my father entered the room, hearing our screams i guess, he passed thru the cloud then stopped suddenly as if not knowing where he was or what he was doing. The cloud started to move towards us, behind the sofa. I last recall much screaming, then nothing.
Strange as it may seem we as a family only briefly discussed this event years later, brushing it to one side.

I used to like playing in the back garden of this house of ours, I'd often take my toys out there and play in the dirt. Around age 5 again one event still puzzles me to this day. It was a bright warmish day as i took my toys out to play. Its bright daylight one minute then pitch black and night time the next, I'm still sitting in the garden playing. I do not recall even being brought indoors by my parents.

Same time range again, around 5 years old. I'm watching the small black n white tv in the front room, not sure whom else is with me. Its a programme i cannot recall and paying attention on and off. Then suddenly the picture changes. This is an era of no remote controls and so any channel switching was done from the tv itself, no one did that. The screen changed to a scene showing an ordinary street with houses and a few cars. It was a very bright sunlit day, glaringly bright. A shiny disc shaped object lands in the road, a door or hatch opens. Not sure if I saw someone/something exit the disc or I knew they would, just as suddenly the picture returned to its original programme.
Later in time I asked other family members if they witnessed this but no one else did and all I received was shrugs from shoulders!!.

We moved from this house in 1957 to go to a brand new housing estate less than a mile away, the Thames View Estate, not far from the then Barking power station.
It was whilst still at Felton road that I became involved with the genetic survey, at around age 4 or 5 (again, exact date on file but kept from me).
The beginnings of many hospital visits, blood tests, x rays, other procedures, injections etc etc. Taken by parents or collected by men in suits in a car to these procedures and tests.

[ries]

Thanks Barry, for this amazing lifestory from your childhood.

I appreciate the big effort you take to get the information into the public with all it's discomforts.

This year really opened my eyes after 39 years sleeping and still after reading and hearing a lot of stuff and interviews and it's still difficult to comprehend what's going at the moment and happened in the past.

I wish you a nice year in good health and wisdom.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/images/smilies/newyear.gif

[Ara]

Barry, Thanks for sharing the beginning of these events in your life with us, it can't be easy constantly re-hashing old memories. :flowers2:

Hope you don't mind if I begin asking questions and making comments here and there?

All the Best
Ara

Lets begin with Tuesday 10th June 1952, my birth date. We move along to 1954/55 (exact date on file but kept from me) when I was around 2, 2 and a half. That year I contracted double pnuemonia, a killer disease in the 1950's.Rushed to hospital, placed in an oxygen tent in intensive care.

My condition worsened, the staff advised my parents to bring in a priest and read my last rites, which they did. I actually died for a few minutes.

This is the spooky part. I viewed my small body laying in the bed, my parents sobbing, staff and priest comforting them. I viewed this from the ceiling looking down.

Then suddenly a bright light, a whoosh sensation as if being accelerated from stop to high speed then back in my body.

Coughing, spluttering and watching mayhem as bewildered staff and parents realised i'd come back to life.

To avoid a very lengthy narrative i will shorten to basics if thats ok.

At around age 4 or 5 an event which involved all my family.

I recall being in the family front room of our home, awaiting the return of my father.

Suddenly there was panic, a large black cloudlike thing was ascending the stairs leading up to our front door.

We rushed into the front room and hid behind the large sofa.

We watched as the cloud drifted into the room, within seconds my father entered the room, hearing our screams i guess, he passed thru the cloud then stopped suddenly as if not knowing where he was or what he was doing.

*** So the energy had an effect on his mental faculties? Was it EM?

Barry do you think the cloudlike thing could have been a 'shroud'? A type of energy cloak which prevents something else from being seen?

The cloud started to move towards us, behind the sofa. I last recall much screaming, then nothing.

Strange as it may seem we as a family only briefly discussed this event years later, brushing it to one side.

I used to like playing in the back garden of this house of ours, I'd often take my toys out there and play in the dirt.

Around age 5 again one event still puzzles me to this day.

It was a bright warmish day as i took my toys out to play.

Its bright daylight one minute then pitch black and night time the next, I'm still sitting in the garden playing. I do not recall even being brought indoors by my parents.

*** So you have lost time and a gap in your memory. Both indications that whomever took you (assuming you were taken) didn't have the ability to return you with no passage of time. Barry, Milab?

Same time range again, around 5 years old. I'm watching the small black n white tv in the front room, not sure whom else is with me. Its a programme i cannot recall and paying attention on and off. Then suddenly the picture changes. This is an era of no remote controls and so any channel switching was done from the tv itself, no one did that. The screen changed to a scene showing an ordinary street with houses and a few cars. It was a very bright sunlit day, glaringly bright. A shiny disc shaped object lands in the road, a door or hatch opens. Not sure if I saw someone/something exit the disc or I knew they would, just as suddenly the picture returned to its original programme.
Later in time I asked other family members if they witnessed this but no one else did and all I received was shrugs from shoulders!!.

*** This may have been a 'channel check' to see what ports were open and what 'frequency' they could use for mental projection purposes.

We moved from this house in 1957 to go to a brand new housing estate less than a mile away, the Thames View Estate, not far from the then Barking power station.
It was whilst still at Felton road that I became involved with the genetic survey, at around age 4 or 5 (again, exact date on file but kept from me).

***Barry, your parents were brought together because of genetic traits they each held for the purpose of creating a certain type of offspring?

Generational selective breeding.

The beginnings of many hospital visits, blood tests, x rays, other procedures, injections etc etc.

***Tweaking and fine tuning your genetic structure?

Taken by parents or collected by men in suits in a car to these procedures and tests.

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, Thanks for sharing the beginning of these events in your life with us, it can't be easy constantly re-hashing old memories. :flowers2:

Hope you don't mind if I begin asking questions and making comments here and there?

All the Best
Ara
questions and observations are perfectly ok.

[THEWATCHER]

I recall being in the family front room of our home, awaiting the return of my father.

Suddenly there was panic, a large black cloudlike thing was ascending the stairs leading up to our front door.

We rushed into the front room and hid behind the large sofa.

We watched as the cloud drifted into the room, within seconds my father entered the room, hearing our screams i guess, he passed thru the cloud then stopped suddenly as if not knowing where he was or what he was doing.

*** So the energy had an effect on his mental faculties? Was it EM?
It had the effect of wiping his memory there and then, left bewildered and shook up

Barry do you think the cloudlike thing could have been a 'shroud'? A type of energy cloak which prevents something else from being seen?
To be honest it could have been literally anything, it was very traumatic

The cloud started to move towards us, behind the sofa. I last recall much screaming, then nothing.

Strange as it may seem we as a family only briefly discussed this event years later, brushing it to one side.

I used to like playing in the back garden of this house of ours, I'd often take my toys out there and play in the dirt.

Around age 5 again one event still puzzles me to this day.

It was a bright warmish day as i took my toys out to play.

Its bright daylight one minute then pitch black and night time the next, I'm still sitting in the garden playing. I do not recall even being brought indoors by my parents.

*** So you have lost time and a gap in your memory. Both indications that whomever took you (assuming you were taken) didn't have the ability to return you with no passage of time. Barry, Milab?
The annoying thing being details are on my files but am denied access to many instances

Same time range again, around 5 years old. I'm watching the small black n white tv in the front room, not sure whom else is with me. Its a programme i cannot recall and paying attention on and off. Then suddenly the picture changes. This is an era of no remote controls and so any channel switching was done from the tv itself, no one did that. The screen changed to a scene showing an ordinary street with houses and a few cars. It was a very bright sunlit day, glaringly bright. A shiny disc shaped object lands in the road, a door or hatch opens. Not sure if I saw someone/something exit the disc or I knew they would, just as suddenly the picture returned to its original programme.
Later in time I asked other family members if they witnessed this but no one else did and all I received was shrugs from shoulders!!.

*** This may have been a 'channel check' to see what ports were open and what 'frequency' they could use for mental projection purposes.
Perhaps

We moved from this house in 1957 to go to a brand new housing estate less than a mile away, the Thames View Estate, not far from the then Barking power station.
It was whilst still at Felton road that I became involved with the genetic survey, at around age 4 or 5 (again, exact date on file but kept from me).

***Barry, your parents were brought together because of genetic traits they each held for the purpose of creating a certain type of offspring?
That is something that was arranged just as my first marriage was

Generational selective breeding.
It would appear so, like many others

The beginnings of many hospital visits, blood tests, x rays, other procedures, injections etc etc.

***Tweaking and fine tuning your genetic structure?
Much was done to me and the likes of me

Taken by parents or collected by men in suits in a car to these procedures and tests.



Regards


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

I recall being in the family front room of our home, awaiting the return of my father.

Suddenly there was panic, a large black cloudlike thing was ascending the stairs leading up to our front door.

We rushed into the front room and hid behind the large sofa.

We watched as the cloud drifted into the room, within seconds my father entered the room, hearing our screams i guess, he passed thru the cloud then stopped suddenly as if not knowing where he was or what he was doing.

*** So the energy had an effect on his mental faculties? Was it EM?
It had the effect of wiping his memory there and then, left bewildered and shook up

Barry do you think the cloudlike thing could have been a 'shroud'? A type of energy cloak which prevents something else from being seen?
To be honest it could have been literally anything, it was very traumatic

The cloud started to move towards us, behind the sofa. I last recall much screaming, then nothing.

Strange as it may seem we as a family only briefly discussed this event years later, brushing it to one side.

I used to like playing in the back garden of this house of ours, I'd often take my toys out there and play in the dirt.

Around age 5 again one event still puzzles me to this day.

It was a bright warmish day as i took my toys out to play.

Its bright daylight one minute then pitch black and night time the next, I'm still sitting in the garden playing. I do not recall even being brought indoors by my parents.

*** So you have lost time and a gap in your memory. Both indications that whomever took you (assuming you were taken) didn't have the ability to return you with no passage of time. Barry, Milab?
The annoying thing being details are on my files but am denied access to many instances

Same time range again, around 5 years old. I'm watching the small black n white tv in the front room, not sure whom else is with me. Its a programme i cannot recall and paying attention on and off. Then suddenly the picture changes. This is an era of no remote controls and so any channel switching was done from the tv itself, no one did that. The screen changed to a scene showing an ordinary street with houses and a few cars. It was a very bright sunlit day, glaringly bright. A shiny disc shaped object lands in the road, a door or hatch opens. Not sure if I saw someone/something exit the disc or I knew they would, just as suddenly the picture returned to its original programme.
Later in time I asked other family members if they witnessed this but no one else did and all I received was shrugs from shoulders!!.

*** This may have been a 'channel check' to see what ports were open and what 'frequency' they could use for mental projection purposes.
Perhaps

We moved from this house in 1957 to go to a brand new housing estate less than a mile away, the Thames View Estate, not far from the then Barking power station.
It was whilst still at Felton road that I became involved with the genetic survey, at around age 4 or 5 (again, exact date on file but kept from me).

***Barry, your parents were brought together because of genetic traits they each held for the purpose of creating a certain type of offspring?
That is something that was arranged just as my first marriage was


***Generational selective breeding.
It would appear so, like many others

The beginnings of many hospital visits, blood tests, x rays, other procedures, injections etc etc.

***Tweaking and fine tuning your genetic structure?
Much was done to me and the likes of me

Taken by parents or collected by men in suits in a car to these procedures and tests.

Regards


THE WATCHER

Barry, thanks for answering these questions. How frustrating to be denied access to the details in your own file. :sad:

Do you know who supplied the details in your file?

If if was a MILAB event then that explains why they have the details, but if it wasn't MILAB and was 'other' then who and how were the details supplied?

I imagine they aren't going to share that with you either?

Barry do you remember if the cloudlike phenomena came through a portal?

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, thanks for answering these questions. How frustrating to be denied access to the details in your own file. :sad:
They say it would cause unnecessary trauma and confusion if i had access, so ok i'm prepared to leave it for now

Do you know who supplied the details in your file?
the files are made up of mostly UK and USA governments departments data

If if was a MILAB event then that explains why they have the details, but if it wasn't MILAB and was 'other' then who and how were the details supplied?
Remember, there are several variations on the Milab theme

I imagine they aren't going to share that with you either?
Hints and clues given over time in order to see if I could work it out myself

Barry do you remember if the cloudlike phenomena came through a portal?
Can only recall what I've stated already, nothing more sorry

All the Best
Ara

Regards



THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

We moved from that TVE house in March of '59 to the house that became my
home for 20 years, a house in Goresbrook Road overlooking Castle Green
park, less than a mile away.
Right from the off I started having bad dreams, almost nightmares in a
way. The dream was always the same, in the middle of the night i would
go downstairs, and stand outside the front room door. Petrified. In the
dream i 'knew' there were small hooded beings in that room. They were
walking slowly around the large table in the middle of the room. I 'knew' they wished me evil in the dream. This went on for months. I tried telling my parents but they would have none of it.

Then one night i awoke with a thirst, my throat was burning, so not wishing to disturb my parents i went downstairs to get a cold drink. I did not even think of the dreams as i slowly and quietly made my way down the stairs.It was only once standing outside the front room door, which i had to pass on the way to the kitchen, that the dream forced its way into my head. I stood shaking, listening at the door, ready to bolt back upstairs.

For some reason, even at that early age, i needed to face this and prove to myself it was only a dream.I slowly turned the door knob and edged into the dark room, i reached for the light switch and flicked on the main light. There in the room stood several hooded small figures around the table. Each looked down so i could not see any faces. Then one lifted its head and just as it was about to remove the hood it went all dark. I awoke next morning with no recall. My parents enquired as to who went downstairs during the night as the front room light was left on and door left open. My siblings told them it was me.
I never had that dream again.




Moving onto 1962, age 10. Opposite the house in Goresbrook road at that time was the park, tennis courts and a playground with swings, roundabouts etc. It was here the next strange experience took place. Myself and my siblings were in the park one bright day. We were playing on one of the roundabouts called a 'spider'. It was a tubular metal whell with spokes on a central hub. Besides pushing the wheel round whilst standing it was possible to lay on the ground underneath, right next to the central hub and use ones feet to push the wheel faster. We were doing this on that day. I was underneath pushing whilst my brothers and sister we sitting on the wheel.

I guess i was using too much footwork, pushing the wheel faster and faster, my older sister by 2 years fell off and bashed her knee on the concrete, making it bleed. Howls of pain and tears she and my brothers made for home 150 yds away. Thinking i'm really going to get a ticking off i remained under the wheel. It was bright daylight as i lay there gazing up at the sky between the bars of the wheel. I noticed a jet black speck in the sky and was transfixed on this. The speck got bigger and bigger, it was circular, disc shaped. It got bigger and bigger as i lay watching it. When it looked to be so big i saw very little else it all went black. I next remember slowly skulking back homewards, hands in pockets looking down thinking i'm gonna get a pasting for letting my sister get injured in the park.

This went out of my memory until a while later when i kept getting flashbacks and dreams of that. After a time i remembered it fully, up till the point where the black disc almost filled the sky, then nothing, walking home.

[THEWATCHER]

1962 to 1967 consisted mostly of a great deal of genetic survey type processes being done, visits to various hospitals and other establishments including Harwell. Much of this ceased at age 15 when i left school and began working.

Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

My entrance to the weird world of Ufo's began after seeing a two page spread in the newspaper Daily Mirror, regarding the strange happenings in the Wiltshire town of Warminster.. The Warminster 'Thing'
This was in 1965 following the events in that town Xmas morning of 1964. My interest followed onto obtaining books on the subject and reading whatever i could on this fascinating topic. By 1968 I was in full swing, even joined BUFORA, British Ufo Research Association, and from 1974 as a field investigator for them.


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Posting shortly, 1970 to 1974..............This is when it starts to get really weird.........................

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Regards
Originally Posted by Ara http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/electric/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=99640#post99640)
Barry, thanks for answering these questions. How frustrating to be denied access to the details in your own file. :sad:
They say it would cause unnecessary trauma and confusion if i had access, so ok i'm prepared to leave it for now

*** That is fair enough. Why traumatize yourself further. Sometimes things are so alien to our mindset it causes a mental and physical shutdown to occur.

Do you know who supplied the details in your file?
the files are made up of mostly UK and USA governments departments data

If if was a MILAB event then that explains why they have the details, but if it wasn't MILAB and was 'other' then who and how were the details supplied?
Remember, there are several variations on the Milab theme

I imagine they aren't going to share that with you either?
Hints and clues given over time in order to see if I could work it out myself

Barry do you remember if the cloudlike phenomena came through a portal?
Can only recall what I've stated already, nothing more sorry
***That's quite alright. As long as 'nothing' stuck 'it's' head through the cloud that is the main thing.:original:



THE WATCHER

Much appreciation.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

up late, watching the snow fall from my bedroom window, better late than never LOL, it looks great out there:original:

(sorry about posting trivia)


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

up late, watching the snow fall from my bedroom window, better late than never LOL, it looks great out there:original:

(sorry about posting trivia)


THE WATCHER

Never apologize for showing an appreciation for Nature my friend! :chuff:

[Humble Janitor]

Barry,

In light of all the dung that's been flung in the past few pages, I wanted to ask you a question unrelated to all that:

Do your handlers have faith in people to "wake up" and see the truth for what it is? Do they desire for people to know and to prepare? Do you, The Watcher, have faith in people to "wake up"?

I'm aware that using the term "truth" can be vague as in an universe full of infinite possibilities, anything could be the truth. I am not even sure I can distinguish truth anymore.

I'm also not as good with questions as other folks as I would have to check out your material to have a better understanding of the subjects within. I cannot watch videos/dvds unless they have subtitles so it leaves me out of the loop sometimes (the annoyance that is not being able to hear). I do however enjoy reading through this thread and there will always be skeptics. It is how you deal with them that determines what progress you make.

[THEWATCHER]

Barry,

In light of all the dung that's been flung in the past few pages, I wanted to ask you a question unrelated to all that:

Do your handlers have faith in people to "wake up" and see the truth for what it is? Do they desire for people to know and to prepare? Do you, The Watcher, have faith in people to "wake up"?

I'm aware that using the term "truth" can be vague as in an universe full of infinite possibilities, anything could be the truth. I am not even sure I can distinguish truth anymore.

I'm also not as good with questions as other folks as I would have to check out your material to have a better understanding of the subjects within. I cannot watch videos/dvds unless they have subtitles so it leaves me out of the loop sometimes (the annoyance that is not being able to hear). I do however enjoy reading through this thread and there will always be skeptics. It is how you deal with them that determines what progress you make.

My handlers are concerned with the severity of the secrecy, they chose me to go public on their behalf in 1988 which came into fruition in 1994. They wish for full total disclosure, nothing short. I too share that wish and have stood by disclosure for all this time.

Regards

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

My handlers are concerned with the severity of the secrecy, they chose me to go public on their behalf in 1988 which came into fruition in 1994. They wish for full total disclosure, nothing short. I too share that wish and have stood by disclosure for all this time.

Regards

THE WATCHER

The severity of the secrecy. Those 5 words say so much about what is going on behind the darkest curtains at the furthest edge of the stage.

Question is, will mankind rejoice or weep in the streets when all is revealed? I hope for the former, but fear it will be the latter as the years pass by and those who know pass to the other side.

[THEWATCHER]

The severity of the secrecy. Those 5 words say so much about what is going on behind the darkest curtains at the furthest edge of the stage.

Question is, will mankind rejoice or weep in the streets when all is revealed? I hope for the former, but fear it will be the latter as the years pass by and those who know pass to the other side.

Many will be held accountable, there are so many facets re full disclosure including the energy side, once it is made known we have paid such huge sums for fossil fuels and damaged the planet by using them when there is free energy, clean energy, being held secret, the public will be furious on many issues.

Regards

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

I hear you on that one. The energy issue alone is a major reason I believe 'they' want secrets kept, let alone the elephant in the room of child abductions and mutilations and tagging.


Disclosure i feel will not come until the Bush Senior has passed through this mortal coil.

[THEWATCHER]

I hear you on that one. The energy issue alone is a major reason I believe 'they' want secrets kept, let alone the elephant in the room of child abductions and mutilations and tagging.


Disclosure i feel will not come until the Bush Senior has passed through this mortal coil.

So, we continue with the fight for disclosure:original:

Regards


THE WATCHER

[Egg]

In my opinion, mankind needs a good kick up the backside that disclosure would bring to our lives. We also need those advances that are hiding behind the green door - we need anti grav, we need zero point energy, we need space travel and colonisation - before its too late and this planets ruined and we fade into the sands of history.

[THEWATCHER]

In my opinion, mankind needs a good kick up the backside that disclosure would bring to our lives. We also need those advances that are hiding behind the green door - we need anti grav, we need zero point energy, we need space travel and colonisation - before its too late and this planets ruined and we fade into the sands of history.

i could not agree with you more, thats why we are fighting every day for the end of the secrecy and lies


THE WATCHER

[Egg]

The one huge thing that I think is the stumbling block here? education. Bear with me on this one as i'll explain why.

Science. What I did in Chemistry and Physics at A level, is now degree work. Thats only 18 years difference. Don't even get me started about stellar and extra solar science lessons. In todays subject, this is a no go.

Geography. I learnt places, data, rock formations and minerals. In short, what came from where, why and how. These days its a trendy subject with a few colour graphs in it.

Thinking for ones self. Todays youth are spoon fed the lowest form of information they in power can get away with. Spoon fed with no thirst for knowing more as their lives are sated by TV and junk.

I sound harsh? my sisters a teacher and she knows how far down this generation have sunk. She was a 'pure applied science' type, but now? now she knows more than the geography teacher so has taken up that subject as well on the time table, and fills in for the French teacher.


Dumbing down the masses is a weapon in this war to keep us 'happy eaters' in our places and not scratching at the walls of our cages.

[Humble Janitor]

So, we continue with the fight for disclosure:original:

Regards


THE WATCHER

Only with disclosure, can humankind begin the healing process that has damaged our planet and our species for so long.

I really wish I could ask better questions but despite everything that's been said in this thread, we are lucky to have your input.

[THEWATCHER]

Only with disclosure, can humankind begin the healing process that has damaged our planet and our species for so long.

I really wish I could ask better questions but despite everything that's been said in this thread, we are lucky to have your input.


Thankyou, I appreciate your very kind words:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

1970. My research centred at this time on reports of lights and structured craft being seen near and entering/leaving the waters of the
two large reservoirs near Enfield. The William Girling and King George reservoirs. Opposite lies an area off Sewardstone road known as Barn Hill. This will crop up again in later years.

In March of 1970 two young Enfield children went missing, searches included the reservoirs. In june of 1970 the two bodies were found in a copse near Barn Hill. The location where the bodies were discovered, in a small copse, lies less than 400yds from a main road. Great mystery surrounds the death of these two young children. A press blackout ensued and any investigation or enquiry met with stonewalling. The families were told not to speak with anyone and were moved away from the area. Strange that even in a mild summer the official word, what few of them there was, was that the children died from exposure.

My interest, as stated, was due to the almost flap conditions in the area, so many reports of lights and objects being reported almost daily. A tip off from a friend alerted me to the events of the day when the two children were found. My friend called round to see me and mentioned all hell was breaking loose at the location. I went to see for myself. It did look very strange. So many police, others in plain clothing, and then the stranger part, army there in numbers too. Speculation was rampant within the scores of joe public types stood along the roadside held back by police. I moved along, asking questions here and there but no one knew what was going on.
A great deal of activity could be seen at and around the small copse, not far from the ridge. Police and army personnel. Police officers carried two blanket covered stretchers from the copse and headed for the official vehicles parked nearby. Then more army personnel went up to the copse carrying spades and sacks.

In short, the topsoil was removed from the copse where the two bodies were found. Years later the grass barely grew within the copse. Very little information was given out afterwards, the press played the whole thing down, the official word was the unfortunate deaths were due to exposure to the elements. In June, and less than 400yds from a main road and civilisation.

Sadly, as is life, this soon became forgotten and local life continued. So did the spate of sightings in the area. I tried to obtain info from as many official sources as possible, snooping everywhere trying to find any scrap of data regarding the events connected to the deaths. I trod on several toes and probably peed off many people with my incessant enquiries.

As an aside, a few months later, we noticed, over a period of several nights, two people sitting in a car whom simply sat there, occasionally looking over towards our home. Most of my family commented on this, and my parents came close to phoning the police more than once. At that time I was working night shifts at Fords and sometimes decided to take the bus which meant i had to pass by the car and go across the park to the bus stop on the A13 Ripple road. I did this 3 times over 3 nights. The same couple in the car, watching nothing in particular, and as soon as i left my home they looked over towards me and watched till i passed their car.
A strange little piece of trivia i agree, no harm came of it, after several more nights of sitting there for a few hours, they simply showed up no more.

(please excuse if this makes little sense in places, its late here as i type, after 2am).

In December of 1970, a few weeks after this car event above, I was driving to work at Fords one night when I suffered a near fatal car crash. That put paid to my investigations for a while LOL.

Next..........1972 and my first run in with MIBs, only these black suited gentlemen were of the NSA variety. With their green Mercedes car sporting false (unissued) number plates.

Back soon...............

[THEWATCHER]

Perhaps my slowness in detailing this part of my past has stifled any and all input from others? My apologies


THE WATCHER

[sleepingnomore]

Not at all Barry, we're patiently waiting.:original: The energies have seemed to affect a lot of members.

[Ara]

Perhaps my slowness in detailing this part of my past has stifled any and all input from others? My apologies
THE WATCHER

No Barry, it's ok, we're still here. :original:

All the Best
Ara

[Humble Janitor]

Always keeping an eye on this thread. Certainly a great read.

[THEWATCHER]

Trying to keep this short n sweet but at same time trying to keep the relevent info flowing, in order for later dot connecting:original:

THE WATCHER

[Jacqui D]

Barry when you mention the MIB were you aware they were that or did you think someone was just out there to get you.
Were the MIB the typical type that we know of ( black suits, glasses etc)?
Are you still being watched by these today?
I know about the accident you had the car crash do you think they were out to kill you or warn you off.

Can you now sense the MIB's around before you even see them?
Do they have an energy that you pick up on?

[Ara]

Barry when you mention the MIB were you aware they were that or did you think someone was just out there to get you.
Were the MIB the typical type that we know of ( black suits, glasses etc)?
Are you still being watched by these today?
I know about the accident you had the car crash do you think they were out to kill you or warn you off.

Can you now sense the MIB's around before you even see them?
Do they have an energy that you pick up on?

Barry, the MIB you are aware of were any of them other intelligences wearing human cadavers? Dan Burisch has spoken about a Rogue group of J-Rods who transfer their intelligences into human cadavers in order to move around here. These ones are the other type of MIB, not the human ones. I imagine the J-Rods aren't the only group with the technology to do this.

If they are J-rods wearing a cadaver then I imagine Jacqui's question whether the MIB have a different energy feel to them may be very relevant. Great question Jacqui.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Barry when you mention the MIB were you aware they were that or did you think someone was just out there to get you.
Were the MIB the typical type that we know of ( black suits, glasses etc)?
Are you still being watched by these today?
I know about the accident you had the car crash do you think they were out to kill you or warn you off.

Can you now sense the MIB's around before you even see them?
Do they have an energy that you pick up on?


Hi Jacqui, at the time of the events of 1972 and indeed into 1973 these guys were your typical agency guys, white shirts, black suits and yes weirdly enough in summer they liked their mystique of wearing raybans. I knew from a certain point whom they were and what they wanted. It was later in the 70's that the more unearthly type of MIB manifestations came my way, but fear that was simply due to my high profile within the ufo community, that tended to attract all kinds of weirdness. During the 90's I received a lot of nonsense from these types. Being watched today? Certain agencies are doing some monitoring yes as far as sensing the more surreal types thats a yes and no. The car accident of December 1970 I put down to sheer bad luck.

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, the MIB you are aware of were any of them other intelligences wearing human cadavers? Dan Burisch has spoken about a Rogue group of J-Rods who transfer their intelligences into human cadavers in order to move around here. These ones are the other type of MIB, not the human ones. I imagine the J-Rods aren't the only group with the technology to do this.

If they are J-rods wearing a cadaver then I imagine Jacqui's question whether the MIB have a different energy feel to them may be very relevant. Great question Jacqui.:original:

All the Best
Ara

The 1970's and the 1990's were two periods of time where i attracted much attention from both agency types MIB and these other, non earthly types. Anything is within possibilities as to their identity. Many scoff at the very idea of these stereotypical MIB types but many have seen them and come under their attention over the years. They are menacing only if you display fear, once you stand up to them and appear non disturbed by their appearance its like a process kicks in whereby they are not programmed to accept such response from humans and shut down. As long as fear and stress is shown by the poor sod under their attention they will continue with their preset programming of harassment and intimidation. Show you are not scared and they react.


Regards


THE WATCHER

[Humble Janitor]

The 1970's and the 1990's were two periods of time where i attracted much attention from both agency types MIB and these other, non earthly types. Anything is within possibilities as to their identity. Many scoff at the very idea of these stereotypical MIB types but many have seen them and come under their attention over the years. They are menacing only if you display fear, once you stand up to them and appear non disturbed by their appearance its like a process kicks in whereby they are not programmed to accept such response from humans and shut down. As long as fear and stress is shown by the poor sod under their attention they will continue with their preset programming of harassment and intimidation. Show you are not scared and they react.


Regards


THE WATCHER

If you don't mind, I'd like to try and make a connection between not showing MIBs fear and not showing the PTB fear. They are both programmed to elicit fear from the sheeple and by the sheeple standing up and throwing off the chains, the MIBs/PTB shut down or weaken when they do not get the fear that they desire.

[iainl140285]

The 1970's and the 1990's were two periods of time where i attracted much attention from both agency types MIB and these other, non earthly types. Anything is within possibilities as to their identity. Many scoff at the very idea of these stereotypical MIB types but many have seen them and come under their attention over the years. They are menacing only if you display fear, once you stand up to them and appear non disturbed by their appearance its like a process kicks in whereby they are not programmed to accept such response from humans and shut down. As long as fear and stress is shown by the poor sod under their attention they will continue with their preset programming of harassment and intimidation. Show you are not scared and they react.


Regards


THE WATCHER



Hi Barry,
Can it go the other way also though, I mean, if you show no fear are there groups who will take interest in this?

Peace
Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

If you don't mind, I'd like to try and make a connection between not showing MIBs fear and not showing the PTB fear. They are both programmed to elicit fear from the sheeple and by the sheeple standing up and throwing off the chains, the MIBs/PTB shut down or weaken when they do not get the fear that they desire.

It would be foolhardy to not show fear to some extent to those PTB, agencies, etc, as they are capable of many nasty things, its not simply fearing for ones own life but when family and close friends are threatened, its natural to show some fear and anxiety.

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,
Can it go the other way also though, I mean, if you show no fear are there groups who will take interest in this?

Peace
Regards
Iain


Indeed so, like being in a goldfish bowl, your actions/reactions are watched, several players, several factions keeping tabs to see if they can use you to their advantage


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Indeed so, like being in a goldfish bowl, your actions/reactions are watched, several players, several factions keeping tabs to see if they can use you to their advantage
THE WATCHER

So how does one know when one is being manipulated for another's cause Barry?

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

So how does one know when one is being manipulated for another's cause Barry?

All the Best
Ara
Unless someone drops hints or someone says you have little or no idea

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

1972......MIB appear but these ones are NSA.I worked at that time for a local freight company on late shifts, 1.30pm till 10pm. It began with being followed nightly from the road by the company all the way to the A13 turnoff where i would turn right for home and the call turned left, towards London. The car, later in daylight identified as a green Mercedes 4 door saloon (sedan). This following was simply that, at first, following, the car 2 or 3 lengths behind me all the time. After a few nights I got annoyed and decided to try and outrun it. I floored the pedal and shot away from the Mercedes but it quickly caught up and placed itself behind me. Driving at reckless speeds of 90mph along the winding River road. River road runs thru a heavy industrial area and its dangerous at the best of times, near lethal at speed at night.
This following got on my nerves so much I gathered together 2 or 3 workmates in the car, taking them home after work, in order to get witnesses to the tagging.
One day on the drive to work in the early afternoon I noticed the Mercedes parked along by the trailers next to the company i worked for. I muttered a few swearwords and turned around, heading back homewards. The Mercedes followed, again a discreet 3 car lengths behind. At least I was seeing the thing in daylight and decided to make as many mental notes about the vehicle as i could, just in case.
We drove at an ordinary rate until we reached Barking power station, then the Mercedes accelerated and drew level with me, driving side by side. The rear nearside window lowered and a middle aged balding man sitting in the back of the car turned and looked at me, within seconds the window raised and the Mercedes sped off.
I was getting really peeved by the antics of the car and occupants and word soon got round the company that I was being messed with. The boss of the company called me into the office one day to ask if there was something he or the company could do, or even to notify the Police for me. I declined saying I could handle the situation.
Days later, again daylight, arriving for my shift, the Mercedes was parked again among the trailers. I hurriedly turned around and sped off back along Thames road towards River road. The Mercedes rushed up behind me getting very close, we raced along River road, traffic permitting. Nearing the straight just before the power station the Mercedes accelerated, drew level then drove at me, I responded on instinct and yanked the steering wheel left. To avoid a hit from the Mercedes. Unfortunately I hit some gravel and lost control, I skidded into a fence and hit the concrete uprights causing about £100 worth of damage to my car.
Strangely that was the last of the tagging from them, was I taught a lesson? possibly, the next time I came across the vehicle was on my 21st birthday, June 10th 1973, in daylight, in a carpark in Barking town centre. This time the occupants got out of their car and approached me.


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Unless someone drops hints or someone says you have little or no idea

Regards

THE WATCHER

So the person who drops hints would have to be someone 'in the know'. Someone connected to the projects?

Is it possible to pick up through 'other channels' ie psi abilities if one is being used?

I imagine all sides playing here look for people they can use to their own advantage.

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

So the person who drops hints would have to be someone 'in the know'. Someone connected to the projects?
Mostly but not always

Is it possible to pick up through 'other channels' ie psi abilities if one is being used?
Yes
I imagine all sides playing here look for people they can use to their own advantage.
Exactly

All the Best
Ara

Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

I should add here that, after the incident of being forced off the road i decided upon advice, to get the vehicle checked. I contacted the Citizens Advice Bureau, The Automobile Association legal dept. and, after being informed by the C.A.B that the registration number of the Mercedes would be within the jurisdiction of Salford City Council, I wrote to them too. I basically stated that an accident occurred and that I was trying to trace the driver of the other vehicle. Salford wrote back stating that the number DBA 919K was indeed unissued, all they had on their records was a Suzuki motorcycle licence number DBA 919L. I kept these 3 letters for possible future use. Andy Collins used them in 1978 in his 130page report on my life "The Paul Grant Affair" (privately published within the ufo community, copies sent to prominent ufologists around the World).

The 10th June 1973 daylight encounter was basically a stand off between 2 of the occupants of the Mercedes and myself. A 'quiet little chat'. It was made abundantly clear at that meet whom they were. Enough said.

April 1974 I actually managed to capture the vehicle on film. I purchased a new super 8mm cine camera and projector and wished to try it out, a new toy LOL. Myself and two of my younger brothers drove over to the wasteground adjacent to the freight company I used to work for, on a piece of ground we termed the thames wasteground. We had the camera, I was filming as we all goofed about acting stupid LOL. It was an overcast cold day. As we goofed around one of my brothers stood still, looking over towards Thames road, then pointed. With the camera I panned across and there, parked among the trailers was the green Mercedes. I zoomed in with the By todays standards,pathetic 2x zoom and kept the button down, recording. Within seconds as if sensing our attention was on them, the Mercedes drove away. I kept filming till it was out of sight. We finished off the 50ft of film and returned home. A few days later I sent it off for processing at Kodak. When I received the small reel of film back I connected up the projector and played the 2/3 minute film a number of times. There was the damn car, should I need to place it with any official one day. Over time I forgot about the film and believe I actually threw it out one day in a fit of anger and frustration. I looked back on that action and mentally kicked myself for throwing it away.

Within one month or so I was to experience an aborted abduction attempt at Barn Hill, off Sewardstone road, Chingford, Essex........the same Barn Hill from 1970.



THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Hi Barry/Ara,

I was wondering if either of you read the Jake Simpson transcript on Camelot: It will only take 5 mins to read if you have not yet done so.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

In it he mentions a device, AI surveillance created by us to monitor ever action, thought and emotion of every person on earth. This is something I had not heard of previously - can either of you shed any light on this?

Any other comments on the points made in this interview?


Peace
Regards
Iain

[Jacqui D]

It would be interesting to see how many on this site have seen or think they may have come across these MIB'S.
You have certainly had your fair share Barry and of course everything else in your life.

If i may i would like to tell a little story here when the MIB's showed themselves to me and my daughter.
It was around 2003-4 i was into David Icke's stuff and looking into the reptilian agenda when i became obsessed with visiting Canterbury Cathedral in Kent.

I had made various trips on several occasions looking for symbols, pictures in fact anything that i felt would prove to me that a reptilian species existed here on Earth but not only that how long they had actually been here.
Today my knowledge has speeded up of course and now know much more but then i was just feeling the way.

I discovered a murel on the wall of the Cathedral that fascinated me, i remember e.mailing David Icke on this telling him i had found proof that the reptilian race was here on earth at least from the 14th century.

There is a clear depiction of a retilian creature in human stance brandishing what looks very clear to me as a weapon in it's hand rather like a light sabre as you would see in star wars the movies.
A piece of the puzzle was coming together for me anyway, telling my family wasn't easy, they thought i was crazy.


So i decided to get my daughter along (who was 32 at the time) to try to get her to see what i had found right under everyones noses but no one taking any notice.

The trip was fraught, train breaking down waiting in station for around an hour eventually headed off. We had a strange conversation on the train with this stranger also, it was just a weird day.

After arriving in canterbury and leaving the station we began making our way to the Cathedral, we both began feeling quite heady, my daughter remarked that she had a bad headache coming on i told her this was normal and she had to try fight it.
The energy is very negative in that area it hits you if you are a sensitive being.
My daughter felt so bad she just wanted to go home, i managed to convince her that it would only last for awhile which it always did and would pass because i knew we had someone helping us on this venture.
After all this compulsion to go and find this picture was given to me in thought process, i would usually receive info this way.


On entering the cathedral the largest spider i have ever seen scuttled inches away from our feet, which scared the living daylights out of both of us, hate spiders something in a previous life i feel.

First i showed her all the ancient egyptian symbolism, then i showed her the murel on the wall.
Not sure of the size of the thing but it's huge, it's called the St Eutace painting.
It depicts christ's journey, but as all old paintings it has some pretty strange creatures in it. But one clear being is a reptile creature, green in colour and vaguely resembling i said at the time to my daughter one of the ninja turtles cartoon characters.
We laughed at that and then began to pull quite a crowd around, who were wondering what we found so funny in a very serious place like Canterbury Cathedral.
We pointed the creature out to some tourists who found it very interesting, we moved on and left quite a crowd all scrutinising the old painting.



But back to the MBI's, we made our journey home without any problems this time unlike the journey going.
On leaving the train we made our way to stations car park where my daughter had left the car, still talking about the day we left the car park and made our way out on to the side road which was quiet we thought for the time of day peak time 5pm when the commutors started making there way home from London.

My daughter turned the corner when suddenly a black van unmarked with blacked out windows swung in front of us.
My daughter slammed the brakes on, the van pulled up at an angle to the right of us.
My daughter was in shock so was i we sat in the car and watched as the door to this van slowly opened. Inside were 3 men all dressed in similar black clothing and dare i say it with dark glasses on.
At a quick glance i noticed the 3 men looked exactly the same.
My daughter never noticed this she was still in shock and feared for her life but did see 3 men in there.
I said something like "Oh my god MBI's"
My daughter said "Sh...t your joking"
She stuck her foot on the reverse and the car shot backwards, as she did so the door on the van shut and pulled off fastly!


We sat for a second or two just taking in the situation thinking Weird! or what!
Wondering why a thing had happened to us my daughter started driving the car again and made our way to the end of the road, noticing all the time that there was not a living soul around anywhere on the road or on the streets.
We took a left turning which brought you out onto the main road through the town. Standing in front of us was a policeman in full combat uniform, he hailed us to stop. we looked at each other and thought what else this day just gets weirder and weirder.
My daughter wound her window down and the policeman came over.
He said we would have to turn back, we noticed that police tape had been put across the road, the like to which they put out when a crime has been commited.
"So what's going on?"
My daughter asks, he says. "There's been a robbery at the Nat West bank, we have cornered of the road you can't go through."


We had clear vision of the road and there was no traffic either way, so we thought they must off cornered of all traffic the other way also.
The policeman waved us back, my daughter reversed back down the road we had just come down.
Still no cars anywhere, but we thought well the police has obviously closed all roads, robbers may be armed or something.
My daughter and i chatted about the MIB's saying how scary was that! and discussed the robbery saying it would be in the papers tomorrow or maybe even make the local news.

After taking the long way round which added around 10 minutes on our journey we eventually got back on the original main road and sat and watched as we waited for the lights to change green.

Now this was weird because there was no police, no police tape across the road nothing, in fact the buses were running as usual and it was quite busy, there were people walking up and down the high street all was back to normal.

We felt as though we had gone through a different dimension or something.
There was never anything said on the local news nothing was printed in the papers and when we asked around no one even knew what we were talking about.

We have no explaination why we were stopped by these MIB's. And the police stop well we have no answer for that either.

[Ara]

Hi Barry/Ara,

I was wondering if either of you read the Jake Simpson transcript on Camelot: It will only take 5 mins to read if you have not yet done so.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

In it he mentions a device, AI surveillance created by us to monitor ever action, thought and emotion of every person on earth. This is something I had not heard of previously - can either of you shed any light on this?

Any other comments on the points made in this interview?


Peace
Regards
Iain

Hi Iain,

Do I think this AI exists? Yes.

Thank you for bringing this interview to my attention, very interesting read.
Opens a whole can of worms though doesn't it? Implications galore on many levels.:original:

All the Best
Ara

ps...I've sent an email to you Iain.:original:

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry/Ara,

I was wondering if either of you read the Jake Simpson transcript on Camelot: It will only take 5 mins to read if you have not yet done so.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

In it he mentions a device, AI surveillance created by us to monitor ever action, thought and emotion of every person on earth. This is something I had not heard of previously - can either of you shed any light on this?

Any other comments on the points made in this interview?


Peace
Regards
Iain

Will check that asap, thanks:original:

THE WATCHER

have now read that, very interesting material

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Hi Iain,

Do I think this AI exists? Yes.

Thank you for bringing this interview to my attention, very interesting read.
Opens a whole can of worms though doesn't it? Implications galore on many levels.:original:

All the Best
Ara

ps...I've sent an email to you Iain.:original:






Yes Ara,
A HUGE can of worms!
Kinda makes you wonder what is there we can do to protect ourselves.
Or if there is even any point :mfr_omg:

Thanks for the pm.

Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so.
Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures?

I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread.



Peace
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Yes Ara,
A HUGE can of worms!
Kinda makes you wonder what is there we can do to protect ourselves.
Or if there is even any point :mfr_omg:

Thanks for the pm.

Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so.
Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures?

I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread.



Peace
Iain


Yes I have but this topic is like trying to wade thru quicksand, as soon as you talk (move) further under (stopped) you become


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Originally Posted by iainl140285 http://projectavalon.net/forum/electric/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=103514#post103514)
Yes Ara,
A HUGE can of worms!
Kinda makes you wonder what is there we can do to protect ourselves.
Or if there is even any point :mfr_omg:

Thanks for the pm.

Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so.
Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures?

I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread.

Peace
Iain

Yes I have but this topic is like trying to wade thru quicksand, as soon as you talk (move) further under (stopped) you become


THE WATCHER

Barry I am in full agreement with that statement. Iain, hence my private correspondence.:wink2: I was going to post that message to the forum but a little intuition said not to. As it was, my internet kept going off-line so it took some time to actually send that email. Not at all surprised though, somethings wish to remain hidden.

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Changes around me are exerting influences concerning my disclosing, not in a negative way, simply directional in nature. Future posts may be more condensed and edited.


THE WATCHER

[James Casbolt]

Hi Barry

Did you hear what happened at the weekend in this area?

I've posted this information at the end of my thread

All the best

James

[James Casbolt]

[B]The firm just told my friend the following regarding me-

"The guy was kind of... weird. He mentioned that "it would be unwise for me to continue to talk to a ticking bomb." I think you'll know what that means. He also blabbered on about it being unable to stop the future and that we were too late. Strange, strange person"B]

[James Casbolt]

MI-6 operative ALFRED BONNER is in my local area

Kindly inform him that if he wants to talk to me, he knows were I am

[THEWATCHER]

I have not been too well past few days James, out of touch so will see what can do OK?

[Lythocrist]

May health, and good will come to you.

[THEWATCHER]

May health, and good will come to you.


Thankyou, I appreciate that:original:


THE WATCHER

[James Casbolt]

Hope you feel better soon my friend

[Humble Janitor]

I have not been too well past few days James, out of touch so will see what can do OK?

Good luck with your recovery. It is unusual to go a few days without seeing a reply from you.

[THEWATCHER]

Thankyou, I shall return just as soon as health permits:original:

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

EDITED AT HIGHER LEVEL REQUEST..........


Saturday May 11th 1974 began on a high note. Myself and fellow BUFORA Investigator were assigned to investigate a possible ufo landing case in Leighton Buzzard, Hertfordshire. The outcome proved less of a high however as torrential rain stopped us from finding the original witness and alleged landing site. In short, due to the weather we left the case in the lap of the local BUFORA member whom we requested to begin an investigation on our behalf. We drove homewards to Essex. My fellow investigator lived in Chingford at that time.

We drove south, looking left I realised where we were, Sewardstone road and stated something to the effect of "Hey, thats Barn Hill Yeah?". A nod of agreement from him, then a realisation. We stopped the car on the grass verge and both got out of the car, stood by the fence and gazed silently over towards the copse and the ridge. Both silently deep in thought, of the day back in 1970 when the 2 Enfield children were found. We spoke about what we each were doing that day. After a time, looking around casually I noticed what looked like a person standing by the trees on the ridge and called my friends attention to it.

The ridge and treeline from our position is approx 400yds. We decided to have a closer look and reached into the car for our respective binoculars and then focussed on the figure, standing completely still, facing us.
Thru the 10x50 binoculars the figure was indeed perplexing, it was approx average human height, wore what could only be described as a black gown which reached from the neck down to the ground. It had long blonde/white hair but what disturbed me was that the being had no facial features at all, a blank. My fellow investigator was just as agitated as I was at seeing this. Talking between ourselves as to what the hell was going on, he said look to the left of the trees, I raised my bins and followed his finger pointing, there, stood an identical being, swinging back towards the right the first being had gone, then left again but that being had gone too. Totally bewildred I lit a cigarette and leaned back on the car wondering what this was all about. My friend shouted "Look, along the hedgerows"..........these were about half way, about 200Yds away from us. Now this sounds funny but only was funny looking back afterwards, at the time I was seriously puzzled and concerned. Along the hedgerows ran, at a pretty fast pace, a white roughly human shaped 'thing', it had no features at all, this was joined by another nearby. These were simply aimlessly dashing about.

Enough is enough I thought, I said to my friend something to the effect that, and I was joking, that these were the two ghosts of the Enfield children. It was meant as a joke but my friend said "****" and got back in the car hurriedly saying lets get out of here.
We drove away and stopped in a carpark a mile or so away and discussed what we had just seen, what a day this is turning out to be. We laughed at our rapid departure, two grown men scared away by dashing around little whatever they were LOL.

It was dark by now and we decided to drive back to the location and make sure these little critters had gone. We parked up again on the grass verge. This road is called Sewardstone road, a busy road with set back houses behind us, traffic light at this time but busy during the day.
We got out of the car and with our binoculars stood at the wire fence, looking towards the ridge, scanning the hedgerows and the copse. After a short time I noticed a small red light just above the trees, it was a slightly bigger red light thru the lenses.

The light rose a little, this is the first memory blur, more follow. The light turned into a machine, a craft of some sort, low above the trees, it began moving and heading in our direction, gaining altitude as it did so but not very much. It was dark colored, had a large circular light in its centre and a large circular light near each tip. It was shaped as I can best describe it as a central sphere or ball with an ice cream cone either side, giving the exact same shape as if seen from front, back, top or below. Around the central sphere revolved a small blue light. As it approached it emitted a strange sound, I struggled to hear and told my friend to switch off the car engine in order to hear better. Yes a very distinct two tone sound was now clearly audible. Similar to a ships sonar, a ping...ping...........ping..ping...........ping..p ing.

As it neared almost overhead my friend grabbed his camera from the car and started taking pictures. At that moment two young girls were walking behind us and I turned around and asked them what they thought the object I was pointing at might be. The stopped, looked up, panicked and ran. Cars were passing by each way now and again on the road. I looked over at the houses and noticed a man standing by his front gate, arms folded, intently watching the scene. Great I thought, We will nab him later and have words.

My friend was rapidly taking pictures as the craft went slowly overhead and was lost to view in a bank of clouds over towards Enfield.
The memory jumps a couple of times when recalling this incident which were explained after I received regression in January of 1978.
These jumps will be detailed at end.

Right, the craft has gone, two very perplexed and in truth shaky investigators stand at the roadside, rapidly talking. Calming down we note the time and decide to get home and write out all that occurred that evening whilst still fresh. My friend dropped me at my home and drove back home to Chingford. By the time I sat down at my parents house it was after 10pm, Match of the day was on the TV (soccer coverage BBC1 prog).
I fixed myself a drink and a snack and made my way to my room. I sat for ages writing all I could of the day from start to finish.

Early next day, Sunday 12th, my friend and I visited the then BUFORA NIC Ken Phillips, we gave him our reports and detailed what we experienced. We talked of other witnesses, mentioning the two young girls and the man standing outside his house. Onto possible photographic evidence, even though the camera my friend used was an Instamatic 126 cartridge camera, not best type for night shots, there was a slim chance something might show up in print. We discussed possible inside sources for developement of the film rather than risk a commercial company. I suggested Omar Fowler, a prominent Ufologist at that time in Surrey. The Film cartridge was sent to him by Ken with covering letter explaining the event. We waited anxiously for results.

Tracing the two girls was impossible, we drew a blank with the man too, when we knocked on his front door and explained who we were and what we wanted he stood expressionless and said he was sitting watching TV all evening, never left the room, when told I saw him outside watching the 'display' he emphatically denied it and told us to **** off and never come back!!.

This was not looking good, we returned to Kens place and stated we drew a blank with other witnesses. He suggested any other possible evidence, traces maybe at the site. It was agreed we would return to the area and have a good look around.
In the bright sunlit afternoon walking up towards the ridge we stopped at the copse and could not resist a quick peek inside, the place where 4 years earlier those two small bodies were recovered. At the ridge, by the trees I looked around and smiled, looking up at the end trees and I smiled more. Branches lay on the ground, branches were damaged on the trees too. I took many color photographs of this damage. Fully detailed reports were drawn up by myself and separately by my fellow investigator, and presented to BUFORA along with pictures. I also sent a similar detailed report with pictures to the MoD and to CUFOS in the USA. (This report was later detailed in the CUFOS backed report by Ted Bloecher, 1976 "Physical Trace Cases".

A week or two after the sending of the film to Omar we received bad news. Evidently the film had jammed in the cartridge, we had no photo evidence!!

So, that was that, the report was detailed in the Summer 1974 BUFORA Journal.

The memory jumps.......As the craft was approaching our position the 2 tone pinging sound was so loud I momentarilly switched positions from the side of the road to a point above and looking down at us. Then I am not at the roadside but inside a darkened room looking at a small screen, seeing myself and friend at the roadside.
After regression this evolved into being taken into the craft after the minds of both of us were scanned and only I was found to be suitable, the pinging sound was the scanning and conditioning of our minds.
I will detail what little of this time inside the room later.

[THEWATCHER]

Two artists impressions of the craft seen at Barn Hill May 11th 1974


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/Chingford-London-1974-C-Ne1.jpg




http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/ching1.jpg

These were to be used in the book by UK Ufologist John Hanson "Our Haunted Skies"
The first one is slightly more like actual shape but central sphere was much bigger, less angular, the second pic is very close but needs more rounding.


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Hi Barry, welcome back to the forum, it's good to see you up and about again.:original:

Barry, what is the story about the 2 Children you've mentioned in your post above?

I vaguely recall the bodies of two children being found but cannot remember the rest of the report. Did I read that in your Voice Files?

All the Best
Ara

[iainl140285]

Hi Barry, as Ara said, good to have you back.

The pics of the crafts you posted. They look very large.
Do you have any knowledge of LARGE crafts actually landing at any sites/bases around the world?

Does it happen on a regular basis?



Best Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry, welcome back to the forum, it's good to see you up and about again.:original:
Thankyou, a little better yes

Barry, what is the story about the 2 Children you've mentioned in your post above?
I have stated as much as I am allowed re that incident I'm afraid. I believe I did cover this within my files

I vaguely recall the bodies of two children being found but cannot remember the rest of the report. Did I read that in your Voice Files?
Yes quite possibly, further data on this is being witheld for the time being, sorry

All the Best
Ara

My best regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry, as Ara said, good to have you back.
Thankyou, good to be back

The pics of the crafts you posted. They look very large.
Do you have any knowledge of LARGE crafts actually landing at any sites/bases around the world?
The artists impressions are based on the apparent size of the craft as viewed from our position. Initially, when the craft was above the treeline I estimated the thing was around 50ft or so across, but as it got nearer I think double that was more accurate. There are restricted files carrying such data yes, see if there are any I might be able to relate at some point.

Does it happen on a regular basis?
probably more regularly than they would admit to:original:



Best Regards
Iain

warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

The January 1978 hypnotic regression sessions revealed data that both worried and perplexed me...........
In short, I was brought aboard the craft for an abduction but this was aborted after my non co-operative state. I found myself seated in a darkened room with much electronics and much activity. Seated in front of some sort of monitor, the view was strange as it appeared to be from ground level looking up and over at myself and my friend, which cut to my friend only standing by the roadside. There were several small, large headed beings walking around. Each had very large black rounded eyes. There was great intelligence among these beings, a purpose in their actions and movements. There are areas in the regression that are still to this day, blocked, and have never been breached. I believe some form of communication was attempted but in my non co-operative state this was halted. One second I'm in the room, next I'm back at the roadside. During the regression I stated that in the shadowed area of the room I am sure I detected movement and a shape, the shape of a human.

[THEWATCHER]

Moving forwards to August 10th 1974.........the faceless being is seen in my back garden less than 25yds away from my position.
It was a very warm night, I had my room windows wide open for coolness and was watching for Perseids meteors, being interested in Astronomy since the age of around 10.
The display was pretty good as i sat on my bed at the window. My attention was drawn away by a small red light slowly crossing the sky, not far above the school buildings about 250yds in front of me.
This small red light moved sideways but sort of 'bounced' on occasion, travelling Westwards, stopped, reversed direction and again 'bounced' when it was directly in front of me. I had my large beam torch (flashlight) next to me and on impulse decided to flash the beam at the small red light. I did this several times without response then suddenly the light started to respond. 3 flashes of the beam, 3 'bounces', 2 flashes, 2 'bounces' etc etc. We played this little game for a few moments then it seemed the light got weary of the game and headed away.

I sat and resumed watching the Perseids. Shortly I heard a rustling noise in the garden my room overlooks, thinking it was a cat I swung the beam of the torch down and over in order to frighten it away. Unfortunately it was no cat the beam illuminated. It was the faceless being we observed at Barn Hill back in May, only this time the safety distance had gone. It was standing next to the small metal shed at the end of the garden, no more than 25yds away. Yes I panicked, even more so as it started to move and approach the house. Things got blurry then but I recall jumping off my bed away from the window and hid at the end of my bed, crouching next to the wall, eyes shut. (yes I know, what a wuss LOL LOL). For what seemed an eternity I waited hoping the damn thing would go away. Eventually I plucked up sufficient courage to venture to the window, and with the torch scanned the entire garden. It had gone. A very restless sleep was had that night.

As in the May 11th event, a report was drawn up, in confidence, and placed with someone within BUFORA whom I trusted, Mr Norman Oliver, I requested he keep the report to himself but wished someone to have details.....just in case.

[THEWATCHER]

Sometime after, 1975 I think, I put together this photo reconstruction in order to give an impression of what I saw in August of 74. The quality is not good nor is the actual perception as the pic was taken using a 126 Instamatic type camera which unfortunately pushes the image away. But it gives you an idea, scale, distance pretty good.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/backgardenencounter0001JPGcropped22.jpg

[Ara]

The memory jumps.......As the craft was approaching our position the 2 tone pinging sound was so loud I momentarilly switched positions from the side of the road to a point above and looking down at us. Then I am not at the roadside but inside a darkened room looking at a small screen, seeing myself and friend at the roadside.

After regression this evolved into being taken into the craft after the minds of both of us were scanned and only I was found to be suitable,

the pinging sound was the scanning and conditioning of our minds.

I will detail what little of this time inside the room later.

Barry, there was a family who reported much the same thing happening to them. The author was Frank Johnson and the book titled THE JANOS PEOPLE.
The book details events which occurred in Oxfordshire In June 1978.

It is a very interesting read especially regarding the ETs understanding of Mind Awareness and how they know how to read a person's brain wave signature. The book also details their use of hypnosis, implanting false memories and a "dentist chair" complete with brainwave monitors for compatibility and possibly entrainment.

Also Billy Meier reported that during his encounters if any other people went with him, they were Scanned to see if they were suitable. I imagine that meant suitable for their conditioning.

Katherina Wilson also detailed in her book how she was taken and shown herself on a monitor living another life. She said she was "there" but she was also simultaneously "there" in another dimension. In both dimensions she was living the same type of life, bringing her experiences out into the open, to enlighten the public to ET involvement.

All the Best
Ara

[iainl140285]

Moving forwards to August 10th 1974.........the faceless being is seen in my back garden less than 25yds away from my position.
It was a very warm night, I had my room windows wide open for coolness and was watching for Perseids meteors, being interested in Astronomy since the age of around 10.
The display was pretty good as i sat on my bed at the window. My attention was drawn away by a small red light slowly crossing the sky, not far above the school buildings about 250yds in front of me.
This small red light moved sideways but sort of 'bounced' on occasion, travelling Westwards, stopped, reversed direction and again 'bounced' when it was directly in front of me. I had my large beam torch (flashlight) next to me and on impulse decided to flash the beam at the small red light. I did this several times without response then suddenly the light started to respond. 3 flashes of the beam, 3 'bounces', 2 flashes, 2 'bounces' etc etc. We played this little game for a few moments then it seemed the light got weary of the game and headed away.

I sat and resumed watching the Perseids. Shortly I heard a rustling noise in the garden my room overlooks, thinking it was a cat I swung the beam of the torch down and over in order to frighten it away. Unfortunately it was no cat the beam illuminated. It was the faceless being we observed at Barn Hill back in May, only this time the safety distance had gone. It was standing next to the small metal shed at the end of the garden, no more than 25yds away. Yes I panicked, even more so as it started to move and approach the house. Things got blurry then but I recall jumping off my bed away from the window and hid at the end of my bed, crouching next to the wall, eyes shut. (yes I know, what a wuss LOL LOL). For what seemed an eternity I waited hoping the damn thing would go away. Eventually I plucked up sufficient courage to venture to the window, and with the torch scanned the entire garden. It had gone. A very restless sleep was had that night.

As in the May 11th event, a report was drawn up, in confidence, and placed with someone within BUFORA whom I trusted, Mr Norman Oliver, I requested he keep the report to himself but wished someone to have details.....just in case.


Hi Barry,

I live my life without fear, and I know that pic is a reconstruction but it still gives me shivers. What was that thing?

At this point, did you recall your earlier experiences from childhood or did you only gain these memories later after regression?


Best Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, there was a family who reported much the same thing happening to them. The author was Frank Johnson and the book titled THE JANOS PEOPLE.
The book details events which occurred in Oxfordshire In June 1978.
I know of this case, have not read the book but followed with interest the investigations sometime afterwards.

It is a very interesting read especially regarding the ETs understanding of Mind Awareness and how they know how to read a person's brain wave signature. The book also details their use of hypnosis, implanting false memories and a "dentist chair" complete with brainwave monitors for compatibility and possibly entrainment.

Also Billy Meier reported that during his encounters if any other people went with him, they were Scanned to see if they were suitable. I imagine that meant suitable for their conditioning.

Katherina Wilson also detailed in her book how she was taken and shown herself on a monitor living another life. She said she was "there" but she was also simultaneously "there" in another dimension. In both dimensions she was living the same type of life, bringing her experiences out into the open, to enlighten the public to ET involvement.
Again, know basic data re this case but again have not had the chance to read data

All the Best
Ara






Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

I live my life without fear, and I know that pic is a reconstruction but it still gives me shivers. What was that thing?
I will detail exactly what that being was when I reach the March 10th 1976 abduction. Basically it is called a gatherer, it actually exists solely to gather specimens for close study/scrutiny

At this point, did you recall your earlier experiences from childhood or did you only gain these memories later after regression?
Yes I already had full, mostly, memories of earlier experiences


Best Regards
Iain

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Please excuse a brief digression here, here are scans made of the covers and relevent pages from Jon Kings book, thought it might be of some interest

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/pagesfrombookrevoice.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/ctpbookcoverfront.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/ctsbookcoverback.jpg


THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Hi Barry,

It states that they require our genetic material. Its a type of business.
Couldn't the ETs simply take what they like when they like? What are they bound by?

Or are we that much of a threat to them they prefer to buy off our governments?

It makes me laugh that our military and scientists think they can screw over the ETs :lmfao: Sheer arogance.


Best Regards my friend.
Iain

[AussieG]

THEWATCHER I have had this idea nagging at me for sometime now. I can't recall where I heard it or even when. Perhaps you can put it to rest.

When cloning occurs the one of the identifying details is the ear. In naturally conceived beings the ear has a lobe, in clones the lobe is missing ie. the bottom of the ear connects directly to the head, it doe not extend down to form a lobe. :sneaky2:

[iainl140285]

THEWATCHER I have had this idea nagging at me for sometime now. I can't recall where I heard it or even when. Perhaps you can put it to rest.

When cloning occurs the one of the identifying details is the ear. In naturally conceived beings the ear has a lobe, in clones the lobe is missing ie. the bottom of the ear connects directly to the head, it doe not extend down to form a lobe. :sneaky2:


Hi AussieG,
If your parents lobes are detatched yours will also be detatched.
If the parents lobes are attached then their childrens lobes will also be attached.

I dont know where this leaves clones tho.


Peace
Iain

[AussieG]

Thank you any feed back is welcome

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

It states that they require our genetic material. Its a type of business.
Couldn't the ETs simply take what they like when they like? What are they bound by?
This refers to one particular faction of OPI, whom were given access to our genetic survey data, later came the realisation, by OPI, that a number of those on the genetic survey themselves could pose a serious threat to them

Or are we that much of a threat to them they prefer to buy off our governments?
The threat comes from a number of individuals on the survey datalists that, when joined by their respective DNA linked artefacts, can wreak havoc towards this particular faction

It makes me laugh that our military and scientists think they can screw over the ETs :lmfao: Sheer arogance.
Thats us OK, arrogant and near sighted

Best Regards my friend.
Iain


Warmest regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

THEWATCHER I have had this idea nagging at me for sometime now. I can't recall where I heard it or even when. Perhaps you can put it to rest.

When cloning occurs the one of the identifying details is the ear. In naturally conceived beings the ear has a lobe, in clones the lobe is missing ie. the bottom of the ear connects directly to the head, it doe not extend down to form a lobe. :sneaky2:

I have not encountered this, cloning, as its name suggests, is literally a full carbon copy, right down to the mole on the left cheek

Regards

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by iainl140285
Hi Barry,

It states that they require our genetic material. Its a type of business.
Couldn't the ETs simply take what they like when they like? What are they bound by?
This refers to one particular faction of OPI, whom were given access to our genetic survey data, later came the realisation, by OPI, that a number of those on the genetic survey themselves could pose a serious threat to them
What threat do they present to the OPI? I will assume measures are being taken to counter this threat?

Or are we that much of a threat to them they prefer to buy off our governments?
The threat comes from a number of individuals on the survey datalists that, when joined by their respective DNA linked artefacts, can wreak havoc towards this particular faction
Why is it only certain individuals? Were these individuals specifically created with the view to threaten this particular OPI?
Or are we talking general populace?
How does one become 'joined' to their DNA linked artefact? Is this a natural process? Will this be a result on individual development i.e. self engineered, or activated by external forces i.e military/alternate OPI?
It makes me laugh that our military and scientists think they can screw over the ETs Sheer arogance.
Thats us OK, arrogant and near sighted

Best Regards my friend.
Iain[QUOTE=THEWATCHER;108480]Warmest regards


Thanks Barry
Best Regards
Iain

[James Casbolt]

Hello Barry

New updates just posted on my thread

All the best

James

[THEWATCHER]

Okey Dokey mate:original:

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by iainl140285
Hi Barry,

It states that they require our genetic material. Its a type of business.
Couldn't the ETs simply take what they like when they like? What are they bound by?
This refers to one particular faction of OPI, whom were given access to our genetic survey data, later came the realisation, by OPI, that a number of those on the genetic survey themselves could pose a serious threat to them
What threat do they present to the OPI? I will assume measures are being taken to counter this threat?

Or are we that much of a threat to them they prefer to buy off our governments?
The threat comes from a number of individuals on the survey datalists that, when joined by their respective DNA linked artefacts, can wreak havoc towards this particular faction
Why is it only certain individuals? Were these individuals specifically created with the view to threaten this particular OPI?
Or are we talking general populace?
How does one become 'joined' to their DNA linked artefact? Is this a natural process? Will this be a result on individual development i.e. self engineered, or activated by external forces i.e military/alternate OPI?
It makes me laugh that our military and scientists think they can screw over the ETs Sheer arogance.
Thats us OK, arrogant and near sighted

Best Regards my friend.
Iain[QUOTE=THEWATCHER;108480]Warmest regards


Thanks Barry
Best Regards
Iain

There are certain specific individuals around the Globe whom were altered genetically by a particular OPI whom are benign. These individuals have an associated/linked artefact. On their own these individuals possess certain powers, once linked physically and mentally with each respective artefact these individuals are extremely powerful. It was setup that only 5 of these individuals coming together in one location would result in unimaginable power, on a negative scale they could obliterate a planet, but the purpose was far more superior and benign. There are many around the Globe whom will never realise their true ID and will thus never be associated or linked with their DNA artefact. However, over the past few years more and more such individuals are being born and these, well some, will fully realise and will become powerful, but steered towards the right path internally. As recent as 2007 the UK government tried to locate and bring together in one location as many of these, lets use the term 'gifted' individuals, in one location the government thought, rather irrationally, that they would have some control over these individuals. The CLC complex under Central London was the chosen venue for this. I'm happy to say that this failed and only a few individuals were retained and these will be released back into free society shortly. Those that are so linked have likewise been genetically altered/modified by the Military/Intel services whom wanted to try and ascertain the extent of the OPI alterations and DNA coding. I hope this explains a little better.:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Perhaps an interesting aside, I sat and watched on my computer last night, in the wee hours, a film which I think you should see my friends, it is called "The Way of War"...........scattered with numerous points of direct interest:original:

THE WATCHER

[James Casbolt]

Hi mate

mum was crying this morning but doesn't know whats wrong

I asked her about the camp i stayed at with the helicopter landing pad, she says she can't remember what year this was or were it was

I think she'll be able to remember if I ask her again when she more calm

We can discuss other details in private if you want

All the best

James

PS- I'm just about to post some of the jungle warfare info on my thread

[iainl140285]

[QUOTE=iainl140285;108653]Originally Posted by iainl140285
Hi Barry,

It states that they require our genetic material. Its a type of business.
Couldn't the ETs simply take what they like when they like? What are they bound by?
This refers to one particular faction of OPI, whom were given access to our genetic survey data, later came the realisation, by OPI, that a number of those on the genetic survey themselves could pose a serious threat to them
What threat do they present to the OPI? I will assume measures are being taken to counter this threat?

Or are we that much of a threat to them they prefer to buy off our governments?
The threat comes from a number of individuals on the survey datalists that, when joined by their respective DNA linked artefacts, can wreak havoc towards this particular faction
Why is it only certain individuals? Were these individuals specifically created with the view to threaten this particular OPI?
Or are we talking general populace?
How does one become 'joined' to their DNA linked artefact? Is this a natural process? Will this be a result on individual development i.e. self engineered, or activated by external forces i.e military/alternate OPI?
It makes me laugh that our military and scientists think they can screw over the ETs Sheer arogance.
Thats us OK, arrogant and near sighted

Best Regards my friend.
Iain

There are certain specific individuals around the Globe whom were altered genetically by a particular OPI whom are benign. These individuals have an associated/linked artefact. On their own these individuals possess certain powers, once linked physically and mentally with each respective artefact these individuals are extremely powerful. It was setup that only 5 of these individuals coming together in one location would result in unimaginable power, on a negative scale they could obliterate a planet, but the purpose was far more superior and benign. There are many around the Globe whom will never realise their true ID and will thus never be associated or linked with their DNA artefact. However, over the past few years more and more such individuals are being born and these, well some, will fully realise and will become powerful, but steered towards the right path internally. As recent as 2007 the UK government tried to locate and bring together in one location as many of these, lets use the term 'gifted' individuals, in one location the government thought, rather irrationally, that they would have some control over these individuals. The CLC complex under Central London was the chosen venue for this. I'm happy to say that this failed and only a few individuals were retained and these will be released back into free society shortly. Those that are so linked have likewise been genetically altered/modified by the Military/Intel services whom wanted to try and ascertain the extent of the OPI alterations and DNA coding. I hope this explains a little better.:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

Hi Barry,

That helps ALOT thank you. :original:

The DNA artefact. Is this something that lies dormant in individuals? Is activation a result of bonding/communicating with another ... with another like minded/DNA compatable person?

It was setup that only 5 of these individuals coming together in one location would result in unimaginable power

Can you explain the significance of 5? This number is making itself ever present to my attention over the last few months. Was 5 in this case just a suitable number to achieve the power or is it deeper than that?
I am assuming combining the abilities of these people has a similar effect to connecting up several batteries? An amplifying effect.

Also, the ones who will never know their abilities ... why were they created as such? Or are these natural abilities that can happen with a regular, unaltered birth?

the purpose was far more superior and benign

Can you elaborate on the purpose? The fact that it wasnt used in anger is of some what relief.


Thanks Barry
Best Regards
Iain

[iainl140285]

Perhaps an interesting aside, I sat and watched on my computer last night, in the wee hours, a film which I think you should see my friends, it is called "The Way of War"...........scattered with numerous points of direct interest:original:

THE WATCHER

Is this the film Barry?

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1590428441/


Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Is this the film Barry?

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1590428441/


Iain


yes thats the one, it is very relevent if you can connect the dots:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

yes thats the one, it is very relevent if you can connect the dots:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

Hmm. My very first impression - I thought of James. A point near the end ... "I am the wolf"

I hope James takes a look.


Best Regards:original:
Peace
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Hmm. My very first impression - I thought of James. A point near the end ... "I am the wolf"

I hope James takes a look.


Best Regards:original:
Peace
Iain


Nope, not James:original:
There are other Wolves whom have been around much longer

THE WATCHER

(responding to your other questions shortly)

[THEWATCHER]

[QUOTE=THEWATCHER;109078]

Hi Barry,

That helps ALOT thank you. :original:

The DNA artefact. Is this something that lies dormant in individuals? Is activation a result of bonding/communicating with another ... with another like minded/DNA compatable person?
No, these are actual physical items that are attached physically and mentally to each individual, once connected they are activated and become one unit. One DNA can access and communicate with another DNA.

It was setup that only 5 of these individuals coming together in one location would result in unimaginable power

Can you explain the significance of 5? This number is making itself ever present to my attention over the last few months. Was 5 in this case just a suitable number to achieve the power or is it deeper than that?
I am assuming combining the abilities of these people has a similar effect to connecting up several batteries? An amplifying effect.
5 is the number required to fully implement a device in the far reaches of space that lies dormant, awaiting activation in certain specific protocols.

Also, the ones who will never know their abilities ... why were they created as such? Or are these natural abilities that can happen with a regular, unaltered birth?
More and more as the evolution continues these 'naturals' will surface, and in time will be sought out by the various nations governments

the purpose was far more superior and benign

Can you elaborate on the purpose? The fact that it wasnt used in anger is of some what relief.
The ultimate usage would be for these 5 individuals as a combined unit, utilising the device in deep space, would be to create a vast umbrella around this planet, virtually impenetrable


Thanks Barry
Best Regards
Iain

My pleasure

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

No, these are actual physical items that are attached physically and mentally to each individual, once connected they are activated and become one unit. One DNA can access and communicate with another DNA.

How many "implants" are in each of these individuals?


5 is the number required to fully implement a device in the far reaches of space that lies dormant, awaiting activation in certain specific protocols.

Activating a "Station" ?


The ultimate usage would be for these 5 individuals as a combined unit, utilising the device in deep space, would be to create a vast umbrella around this planet, virtually impenetrable

Earth Shield?

Barry, how 'deep space' are we speaking here? Are we speaking in the Region of Sirius?

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

No, these are actual physical items that are attached physically and mentally to each individual, once connected they are activated and become one unit. One DNA can access and communicate with another DNA.

How many "implants" are in each of these individuals?
This can and does vary with each respective individual, most certainly they will have chips from both OPI and the Military/Intel services


5 is the number required to fully implement a device in the far reaches of space that lies dormant, awaiting activation in certain specific protocols.

Activating a "Station" ?

A very substantial device, you may call or refer to it as you wish:original:

The ultimate usage would be for these 5 individuals as a combined unit, utilising the device in deep space, would be to create a vast umbrella around this planet, virtually impenetrable

Earth Shield?
As good a term as any, yes

Barry, how 'deep space' are we speaking here? Are we speaking in the Region of Sirius?

Unfortunately stating a region here would be innappropriate sorry
All the Best
Ara

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[Jacqui D]

Barry if these individuals that carry these artifacts do not know that they have them implanted in ones self, can they be activated by military etc to be used when the time is right?
Would that individual be aware that they were conversing with others whom are alike and would they know what they would be doing at the time of there calling shall i put it in those terms.

Would they have been put through a re run so to speak, either in dream state or an actual program, or would they simply take on that ability when called upon.

[iainl140285]

Hi Barry,

That helps ALOT thank you.

The DNA artefact. Is this something that lies dormant in individuals? Is activation a result of bonding/communicating with another ... with another like minded/DNA compatable person?
No, these are actual physical items that are attached physically and mentally to each individual, once connected they are activated and become one unit. One DNA can access and communicate with another DNA.

Items - meaning more than 1. Is it one per user? These are esentially tools yes? Who supplied these tools? OPI or did we create? This may sound starnge, but I had a dream back in September (I remember this specifically because it was odd) where I was in a large open, rather plain room. There was 1 desk, 1 chair with a man sittin at it. Looked old/wise. As I approached the desk I raised my arm up and there was a kind of bracelet on my wrist. I could feel it connect with my head and I was able to project something like a picture?? I dont know if it was my thoughts or what. The man said something like "good" and walked out the door behind him. And that was it :mfr_lol: Anyway, are these devices bracelets?

It was setup that only 5 of these individuals coming together in one location would result in unimaginable power

Can you explain the significance of 5? This number is making itself ever present to my attention over the last few months. Was 5 in this case just a suitable number to achieve the power or is it deeper than that?
I am assuming combining the abilities of these people has a similar effect to connecting up several batteries? An amplifying effect.
5 is the number required to fully implement a device in the far reaches of space that lies dormant, awaiting activation in certain specific protocols.
Waystations? I'll tell you what's ringing my bell, you can say ye or nah. I see a number of installations that lie dormant. These stations are most powerful once connected. Once connected they send out a wave throughout their vacinity/space. These stations are ancient. The scenario I am familiar with is that the stations were a type of weapon, in as much as they were designed to elimanate a certain region of space in order to 'CONTAIN' a specific lifeform. To stop the spread of a specific lifeform. Am I way off the mark here?

If so can you advise what is the function of these dormant stations?

Also, the ones who will never know their abilities ... why were they created as such? Or are these natural abilities that can happen with a regular, unaltered birth?
More and more as the evolution continues these 'naturals' will surface, and in time will be sought out by the various nations governments
the purpose was far more superior and benign

Can you elaborate on the purpose? The fact that it wasnt used in anger is of some what relief.
The ultimate usage would be for these 5 individuals as a combined unit, utilising the device in deep space, would be to create a vast umbrella around this planet, virtually impenetrable
Impenetrable to whom/what? A physical umbrella? Or a type of mental barrier? Once the shield is up do these individuals need to forever maintain it? Has the shield activation been attempted? If so what was the outcome? Is there an urgency to get this done ... do we have a deadline?

Thank you for all this info. Barry! :original::thumb_yello:
Take Care
Best Regards
Iain

[Ara]

As recent as 2007 the UK government tried to locate and bring together in one location as many of these, lets use the term 'gifted' individuals, in one location the government thought, rather irrationally, that they would have some control over these individuals.

The CLC complex under Central London was the chosen venue for this.

I'm happy to say that this failed and only a few individuals were retained and these will be released back into free society shortly.Barry, are you ready my friend because my question hat is on! :naughty:

Ok, if these people have been retained for a length of time, who was in their place in society? I imagine they would have been 'missed', were they replaced?

If the UK Government knows they cannot control these individuals why are they releasing them back into 'free society'? I imagine the Govt wouldn't release these people back into society if they deemed them a threat. Have they disabled the threat in these people?

So the Govt knew these people were a threat to the OPI and they wanted to control that 'threat'. Are the Govt in opposition to the OPI who realised these people could be a threat to them? Or are they working with these same OPI?

Barry, the 5 people you speak of, do they have to connect into a power source and it powers the Device you wrote of?

James wrote that they had to connect to an artifact called the Spear of Destiny and they had to draw the energy from the artifact into themselves, however in my mind I see the People connecting to a power source and then 'it' connecting and initiating the Secondary Unit.

From my point of view the 5 are the Drivers of a 'Tank'. The Tank holds all the Power but it needs the drivers to "turn the key to get the fuel pumping' and to focus it in the direction it needs to go.

So which way is correct? Maybe the both are intertwined?

Also the 'device' you are referring to, how does it create an umbrella around a planet so far away? Are there generators, artifacts or technology around or within this planet which respond to this Device and they create this energy field you refer to?

Is this Device akin to the size of an extremely compacted sun? When it is activated will there a 'new star' in the sky?

What type of energy is this field suppose to protect us from?

What about other cosmic bodies in this system, will they also be protected within this "umbrella"?

Is the Incoming energy something which effects humans or does it contain a type of radiation which has adverse effects on DNA? All DNA or specific DNA?

Can it effect the Mind-Field?

Could it effect 'implants'?

Barry the AI system, global to Off Planet Super Computer Relay system, could it be effected by this incoming energy?

I'm trying to understand what this energy can effect.

Is it an EMP Wave? If so, what generated it/them?

Is this connected to a supernova event?

According to Dan Burisch's testimony human lineage splits into the J-Rods and the Orions.

Is this Incoming energy connected to what eventually happens to the human race? How and why the human race separates into different lineages?

Think I'm done for now Barry. :original: Hat's off! :band:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Ok, thats fine, I wil respond and answer all questions asap, time limited right now. Thankyou guys for patience:original:

warmest regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Barry if these individuals that carry these artifacts do not know that they have them implanted in ones self, can they be activated by military etc to be used when the time is right?
Would that individual be aware that they were conversing with others whom are alike and would they know what they would be doing at the time of there calling shall i put it in those terms.

Would they have been put through a re run so to speak, either in dream state or an actual program, or would they simply take on that ability when called upon.

Hi Jacqui, the artefacts are not implanted, they are stored in certain secure locations. The Military cannot activate them which causes them some consternation and frustration. Thats why they try and locate and grab the individual along with the artefact anytime before the DNA link takes place. Those individuals yes can converse with like individuals, without needing external methods of communication. They are linked by minds and do yes know what the others are doing, their status. No drill or test would be required, the abilities/functions work. Hope that helps.

Warmest regards


THE WATCHER

[Jacqui D]

Thanx for that Barry, that explains things for me.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

That helps ALOT thank you.

The DNA artefact. Is this something that lies dormant in individuals? Is activation a result of bonding/communicating with another ... with another like minded/DNA compatable person?
No, these are actual physical items that are attached physically and mentally to each individual, once connected they are activated and become one unit. One DNA can access and communicate with another DNA.

Items - meaning more than 1. Is it one per user? These are esentially tools yes? Who supplied these tools? OPI or did we create? This may sound starnge, but I had a dream back in September (I remember this specifically because it was odd) where I was in a large open, rather plain room. There was 1 desk, 1 chair with a man sittin at it. Looked old/wise. As I approached the desk I raised my arm up and there was a kind of bracelet on my wrist. I could feel it connect with my head and I was able to project something like a picture?? I dont know if it was my thoughts or what. The man said something like "good" and walked out the door behind him. And that was it :mfr_lol: Anyway, are these devices bracelets?
One artefact per individual, it has the unique DNA coding that enables linking only with that specific individual. More than tools, these are, if you like, a continuation of that individual, one needs the other to fully function. These were 'supplied' by OPI. That dream has deeper meanings and purposes but not directly related to artefacts as in this topic. It has been hinted over past few years that I do not directly identify by any way the look, description, etc, of these artefacts, for obvious reasons.

It was setup that only 5 of these individuals coming together in one location would result in unimaginable power

Can you explain the significance of 5? This number is making itself ever present to my attention over the last few months. Was 5 in this case just a suitable number to achieve the power or is it deeper than that?
I am assuming combining the abilities of these people has a similar effect to connecting up several batteries? An amplifying effect.
5 is the number required to fully implement a device in the far reaches of space that lies dormant, awaiting activation in certain specific protocols.
Waystations? I'll tell you what's ringing my bell, you can say ye or nah. I see a number of installations that lie dormant. These stations are most powerful once connected. Once connected they send out a wave throughout their vacinity/space. These stations are ancient. The scenario I am familiar with is that the stations were a type of weapon, in as much as they were designed to elimanate a certain region of space in order to 'CONTAIN' a specific lifeform. To stop the spread of a specific lifeform. Am I way off the mark here?
I am only at liberty to mention the one, main, device. It is very ancient by our timescale, but we are relatively young by Universal standards:original:Containment is an element of their design but not in the overtly warlike ways we as humans see weapons to be, some are purely defensive not offensive in nature.

If so can you advise what is the function of these dormant stations?
This device acts as, among other things, a power relay for the individuals on this planet during times when activation is required, such as activating the umbrella around this planet.

Also, the ones who will never know their abilities ... why were they created as such? Or are these natural abilities that can happen with a regular, unaltered birth?
More and more as the evolution continues these 'naturals' will surface, and in time will be sought out by the various nations governments
the purpose was far more superior and benign

Can you elaborate on the purpose? The fact that it wasnt used in anger is of some what relief.
The ultimate usage would be for these 5 individuals as a combined unit, utilising the device in deep space, would be to create a vast umbrella around this planet, virtually impenetrable
Impenetrable to whom/what? A physical umbrella? Or a type of mental barrier? Once the shield is up do these individuals need to forever maintain it? Has the shield activation been attempted? If so what was the outcome? Is there an urgency to get this done ... do we have a deadline?
Several specific scenarios. It can repel unwanted and aggressive visitors, it can repel another threat to this planet such as asteroids, comets and the like, major dangers. Once the umbrella has been activated the 5 have to maintain links with the deep space device for power, there would be limited power without the device. It has been used in the past yes but cannot elaborate here. Urgency would only be a reality if a threat was detected that required this action. There are no deadlines as far as I know.

Thank you for all this info. Barry! :original::thumb_yello:

Hope thats been of some use
Take Care
Best Regards
Iain

Best regards

THE WATCHER

[judykott]

Hi Barry,
Have you heard of structure , sort of like a silo in the ground in China that is supposedly a ancient technology to protect the earth from asteroids?

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, are you ready my friend because my question hat is on! :naughty:

Ok, if these people have been retained for a length of time, who was in their place in society? I imagine they would have been 'missed', were they replaced?

If the UK Government knows they cannot control these individuals why are they releasing them back into 'free society'? I imagine the Govt wouldn't release these people back into society if they deemed them a threat. Have they disabled the threat in these people?

So the Govt knew these people were a threat to the OPI and they wanted to control that 'threat'. Are the Govt in opposition to the OPI who realised these people could be a threat to them? Or are they working with these same OPI?

Barry, the 5 people you speak of, do they have to connect into a power source and it powers the Device you wrote of?

James wrote that they had to connect to an artifact called the Spear of Destiny and they had to draw the energy from the artifact into themselves, however in my mind I see the People connecting to a power source and then 'it' connecting and initiating the Secondary Unit.

From my point of view the 5 are the Drivers of a 'Tank'. The Tank holds all the Power but it needs the drivers to "turn the key to get the fuel pumping' and to focus it in the direction it needs to go.

So which way is correct? Maybe the both are intertwined?

Also the 'device' you are referring to, how does it create an umbrella around a planet so far away? Are there generators, artifacts or technology around or within this planet which respond to this Device and they create this energy field you refer to?

Is this Device akin to the size of an extremely compacted sun? When it is activated will there a 'new star' in the sky?

What type of energy is this field suppose to protect us from?

What about other cosmic bodies in this system, will they also be protected within this "umbrella"?

Is the Incoming energy something which effects humans or does it contain a type of radiation which has adverse effects on DNA? All DNA or specific DNA?

Can it effect the Mind-Field?

Could it effect 'implants'?

Barry the AI system, global to Off Planet Super Computer Relay system, could it be effected by this incoming energy?

I'm trying to understand what this energy can effect.

Is it an EMP Wave? If so, what generated it/them?

Is this connected to a supernova event?

According to Dan Burisch's testimony human lineage splits into the J-Rods and the Orions.

Is this Incoming energy connected to what eventually happens to the human race? How and why the human race separates into different lineages?

Think I'm done for now Barry. :original: Hat's off! :band:

All the Best
Ara


Damn!!, I was half way thru answering these questions when the website closed, losing everything I typed. Will restart shortly, sorry!

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,
Have you heard of structure , sort of like a silo in the ground in China that is supposedly a ancient technology to protect the earth from asteroids?

Over the years I have heard many things, seen many things, but many also have been kept from me. This is something I have no knowledge of, perhaps you could elaborate?:original:


Regards


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Damn!!, I was half way thru answering these questions when the website closed, losing everything I typed. Will restart shortly, sorry!

THE WATCHER

No need to apologize.:original:

Happens to me all the time Barry and I find it extremely frustrating. :sad:

:smoke::wink2:

All the Best
Ara

[nobody]

I was born June 20 1952 USA Father German Mother Scotish Irish . I have been called weired strange and scary all my life. I just know things sometimes. When I was two I had very bad lung conjestion. My mother took me to the Dr. who thought it might be Pnemonia. I don't remember but mom says I told the Dr. that I did not have pnemonia I had an infection from smoke because they burned the field behind our house. She says I talked as good as an adult and knew words she didn't know. Example assinine. Told my dad he was assinine because he would not let me walk to the store, five blocks away by myself . I was three. They had to look the word up and had to ask me how to spell it.

[nobody]

For years I have wanted to check my DNA. Many remarks from people about me being like a man. My son told me I was the best man he had ever known. when I ask him to explane he said I was loyal and true blue like a knight in shining armor, ready to come to the aid of anyone in distress. Also that I was not bossy or bitchy or insecure. I did go through that but he was to young at the time to remember. Then there is the two thing . when I was 12,22,32,42,and 52 I go through what I call my changling period . It last roughly four years. I have just been through one. I will call this one The Wakeup. OH YEAH! The black cloud. At the end of my 22 to 26 Changling period, I was 25 and had a black cloud come into my house and telepathicly tell me that I could be rich, popular, and all my dream would come true. I knew it was evil and opened my door and demanded that it go and it did. The only other place I have ever heard of a black cloud was reading a book about remote viewing. I have never seen an ET but have had some strange things with people I did not know . One example, See this guy everywhere I go for about three years, He would say " Hi there young lady how are you today"This would Have been 32 to 36 period. I wold say and go on. I live in a very small town 10 to 12 thousand people, so not strange at all for people to speek when you see them all the time. It got very strange when I went shopping with my mom . I checked out first went to sit on abench by the door. There he was .He spoke so I introduced myself He saiud his name was John Smith and he taught at the local Jr. collage. That is when it started getting strange. Three days later I see him talking to my boss . When he left I went out and ask my boss what he was doing there and he said he was a salesman.That his name was Tom Jones. OK I see him a few days later down town. He speaks and I ask him why he was at my job saying he wasTom Jones and he just walks away .I started keeping my camera with me and so one day I see him ,he speaks, I speak and I ask him if I can take a picture, as i am taking my camera out of my bag he grabs my wrist very hard pushes me up aganist the store front and in a very nasty way says who do you think you are bitch you'r not smarter than me, gets in his car and is gone . Never saw him again. No one at the college had ever heard of him by either name or description and all there teachers were present and accounted for. My question is could I be "ONE OF THEM" PLF or something? There is a Lot more but it would take a book, which I have thought about.

[Ara]

The artefacts are not implanted, they are stored in certain secure locations.

they were 'supplied' by OPI

*** When were they supplied by OPI? Recent past or distant past?

Which OPI supplied them? The same Benign Ones who created them?

Who did they 'supply' them to?

Did they receive all the artifacts in one place? Or have they been gathered by 'collectors' throughout time?

Or are the artifacts still where they originally were 'supplied and stored'?

Hmmm, so these artifacts are awaiting resurrection. :)

***Barry, are you able to say if any of the artifacts were located in Egypt?

The Military cannot activate them which causes them some consternation and frustration.

Thats why they try and locate and grab the individual along with the artefact anytime before the DNA link takes place.

*** Barry why is it important to do this before the DNA linking occurs?

Are you referring to the linking between the DNA in the person with the DNA in the artifact?

If the military have the artifacts in their possession how can the individual link to them without the military's knowledge? Can they remotely link in? DNA to DNA connection?

Stargates within the core of one's DNA can be used to connect to the DNA in the artefacts?

The threat comes from a number of individuals on the survey datalists that, when joined by their respective DNA linked artefacts, can wreak havoc towards this particular faction

Once linked physically and mentally with each respective artefact these individuals are extremely powerful.

***So is it important for the individual to physically touch the artefact and to mentally connect into it?

The artefact senses the genetic signature and energy field of the individual? Are they tuned specifically at creation to each unique signature?

Sounds like the so called 'Ark of the Covenant' technology.

Do you know what happens when a person 'links in'? Do they experience anything particular?

Barry, are there those out there who scan people for their signature to see if 'they are one' with a corresponding artefact?

How do the military 'locate these gifted individuals'?

I imagine that with the OPI's advanced knowledge of genetics and technology, they could have placed biological material of their own kind within artifacts and linked them to the humans who also carry this genetic material.

Excuse me for stating the obvious here, :) but if there are so many people who are 'gifted' as you say, and there is one artefact per person then there must be crates of these artefacts.

What happens as more "naturals" evolve? Will they also require an artefact? Will more be supplied?

All the Best
Ara

[iainl140285]

Good morning Barry :original:

Thank you again for your time - as usual your answers conjure more questions :mfr_lol:

First, lets get that dream out of the way. I asked this morning and this is what I got - This is the moment I believe I connected/realised that the world we see isnt the world we COULD see. This was around the start of my journey.

One artefact per individual, it has the unique DNA coding that enables linking only with that specific individual. More than tools, these are, if you like, a continuation of that individual, one needs the other to fully function

So what came first - the artefact or the connecting individual? Both at the same time? If both are part of the same entity how are they created seperatley? How seperate are we talking here - say if someone was born in the US could their matching artefact be in say Russia or even further? (SPACE??)

Artefact collection. The power involved here if the individual and the artefact are connected must be immense. Do the military collect the artefacts or individuals to use them or to protect them from being collected by the OPI? How do they locate the artefact or individuals? They obviously have the advantage of resources compared to the individual I suppose.

Clones - Since a clone is identical to its blueprint, can the Military/OPI use a clone of an individual to use along with the artefact if the original was less than willing?

Who has an artefact - no names and numbers - you mentioned that people can go their entire lives without knowing their potential. Plus if it only requires 5 people out of the 6.5 billion on Earth Im guessing these are very rare and gifted individuals?
If they are aware they have an artefact match somewhere, can they link with it remotely, even just to find its location?

Waystations? I'll tell you what's ringing my bell, you can say ye or nah. I see a number of installations that lie dormant. These stations are most powerful once connected. Once connected they send out a wave throughout their vacinity/space. These stations are ancient. The scenario I am familiar with is that the stations were a type of weapon, in as much as they were designed to elimanate a certain region of space in order to 'CONTAIN' a specific lifeform. To stop the spread of a specific lifeform. Am I way off the mark here?
I am only at liberty to mention the one, main, device. It is very ancient by our timescale, but we are relatively young by Universal standardsContainment is an element of their design but not in the overtly warlike ways we as humans see weapons to be, some are purely defensive not offensive in nature.

The device I was describing IS indeed a form of defense, in a strange sort of way :original: This info. is out there in bits and pieces and in full view for all to see. Very mainstream to certain generations. Is this done on purpose? The more dots I join, the more it feels like preperation/training and I am sure I am not alone in thinking this. (Not training me specifically for a task, just training so we are familiar with a subject when it is publicly revealed in future.)

It has been used in the past yes but cannot elaborate here.

Used by us I wonder ... perhaps a test run?
Could this unberella be used to contain an atmosphere?

Thats all I have, for now .... :thumb_yello:
Thanks
Best Regards
Iain

[James Casbolt]

Hi Jacqui, the artefacts are not implanted, they are stored in certain secure locations. The Military cannot activate them which causes them some consternation and frustration. Thats why they try and locate and grab the individual along with the artefact anytime before the DNA link takes place. Those individuals yes can converse with like individuals, without needing external methods of communication. They are linked by minds and do yes know what the others are doing, their status. No drill or test would be required, the abilities/functions work. Hope that helps.

Warmest regards


THE WATCHER

I believe that Delta Force may have copied the metal from the spear and implanted small peices of this metal into my joints. Basically for increased magnetic attraction and absorbing of Qi ( Chi ) energy into my body.

I was in contact with a couple of Chi healers recently and one told me the following-

I have two implants on the back of my head that connect to a wire that runs down my spine in a spiral. My ribcage is 'fused' together with some kind of exotic metal. I also found out I have small pieces of metal in all my joints which connect with tiny wires. I have some kind of 'weave' in my skin that connects around my body like a spiders web ( again implants connected to tiny wires ). Many tiny objects are around my throat ( which feel like crystals or pieces of glass that 'crunch' together is I touch or squeeze them. These fell very umcomfortable and unatural. So much so if I watch TV I always fiddle with them.

[James Casbolt]

On a side note- be very careful about the EM and bio-electrical energy coming from screens of computers and TV's and attaching to the third eye chakra

Use magnets and other methods like Tai-Chi/Chi Gung to stop this

Good products at this website

http://www.roaringlionpublishing.com/

[THEWATCHER]

Something to occupy the space whilst I'm away...........:original:


THE WATCHER


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[Ara]

Barry, in Jon King's Cosmic Top Secret book he mentions that 'captured' Extra terrestrials are required for participation in hybridization, clone-production and eugenics.

I imagine genetic samples are taken from these 'captured' ETs and are used in these processes?

What type of Extra-terrestrials were captured?

The captured OPI, are they helpers of mankind? Have any of the Begin ones been captured?

Are other OPI intelligences aware of these captured ETs?

Have other OPI tried to extract their captured counterparts?

I imagine the technology exists and is being implemented to prevent the captured ETs from being removed from 'containment'?

Is this one of the reasons there are disputes? The OPI want their people back?

Barry the Benign (b9) Race who have a connection to humans, are you referring to the Ancient of Ancient Ones who used their DNA as a basis for the human prototype?

If so, I imagine those ancient genes have been passed along generationally amongst human lineages?

And I imagine there are those who watch and monitor where within the lineages those genes are passed?

According to Dan Burisch this Solar System is crossing through a Region of Space (Ni.Bi.Ru or Sh'ar) containing a Higher level of energy. This has an effect on Humans as well as on the planets within this system (solar system warming) as we assimilate this higher energy into our Being. (excitation of base molecules )

I imagine this means children born during this crossing time have a higher chance of carrying the genes (and therefore the energy) active from birth?
I understand it also means their base energy will automatically be a higher level than people born pre-crossing. That is if those people weren't altered to have extra 'folds' within them to contain and hold that higher energy? (capacitance comes to mind).

No wonder the children being born now have so much energy and a stronger mind-set to boot. :) It strengthens their mental abilities.
More energy means 'longer reaching' connections too. :)

Is this the reason certain OPI fear these people? Because this higher base energy allows them to connect into it and channel it to build stronger mental firewalls?

Stronger mental firewalls mean less "influence"?

Referring back to captured ETs and Aliens, I've heard a Being of Reptilian Lineage is contained, his DNA extracted and used in hybridization procedures. Has this information been made aware to you?

I imagine if a reptilian Being is contained then cloning and programming the cloned reptilian (same can be said for any type of Being which has been cloned and implanted) forms is also occurring. Could be why some of the Reptilians have their own Mind and others seem to be 'hived'? Once again, this could also be said of many types of Beings, Zeta, Greys. Pleiads, Nordics. Reptilians etc.

One is the real deal the others are either the programmed clones or the real deal who have been captured and re-programmed/implanted by 'Other'?

Hope these questions are ok and heading in the right direction.

As they say, sometimes the questions are just as important as the answers. :)

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Wow, It looks I have quite a bit of catching up to do here LOL. Please be patient, catching up as soon as I can:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Also the 'device' you are referring to, how does it create an umbrella around a planet so far away? Are there generators, artifacts or technology around or within this planet which respond to this Device and they create this energy field you refer to?

Is this Device akin to the size of an extremely compacted sun? When it is activated will there a 'new star' in the sky?

What type of energy is this field suppose to protect us from?

What about other cosmic bodies in this system, will they also be protected within this "umbrella"?

Is the Incoming energy something which effects humans or does it contain a type of radiation which has adverse effects on DNA? All DNA or specific DNA?

Can it effect the Mind-Field?

Could it effect 'implants'?

Barry the AI system, global to Off Planet Super Computer Relay system, could it be effected by this incoming energy?

I'm trying to understand what this energy can effect.

Is it an EMP Wave? If so, what generated it/them?

Is this connected to a supernova event?

My apologies Barry, I should have pre-empted these questions with some other information floating around the thoughtsphere at present.

As I am sure you are aware, there is a meme floating around regarding an incoming wave of energy. No one really seems to be able to adequately define what type of energy this wave is.

Some mention a Gravity Wave, some a Time Wave, some a HyperKinetic Wave (Hyper-emotional) , some a Wave generated by a supernovae event.
It's possibly all of the above intertwined. Then there are the associated cosmic bodies (both Natural and Unnatural) towed/towing along for the free 'ride'.

My questions above in the quoted area are directed towards this reported/prophetical?) Incoming Wave and whether the Device you've mentioned is suppose to create a Barrier/Shield to prevent both the Incoming energies and/or the reported tag-along Bodies the Cyclical Wave Phenomenon brings with it.

Hope that clears things up a bit.:original:

Also, if there are 5 people with their fingers on the pulse of something with so much 'power' why would that be made public?

Personally I feel those people would have more of a chance at succeeding if there wasn't public attention brought upon them. Not to mention every Tom, Dick and Harry coming out of the woodwork proclaiming themselves to be one of the five. This reminds me of the Sleeper must Awaken thread which ran on another forum about some reported "Destiny" woman. Many women came forward proclaiming themselves to be "Destiny".

Are the military concerned that bringing this information to the public may incite a Saviour complex? Create a Following? Surely this type of 'mission' (for want of a better term) would best be completed without recognition or credit? The same as it is with all our brothers and sisters in the world of Hidden Ops? Their missions are successful because of the secrecy.

There are only two reasons I can imagine why this has been brought out.

1: this is some type of test filter. (knowing you as a person :original: I imagine psi-ops are the type of plays you've been fighting against so I can't see you participating in such.:original: So strike that one. :smoke:)

2: it's real and by bringing this info out into the open it is acting as a warning to others.

As you can see Barry, :winksmiley02:I'm having difficulty understanding why this information has been brought to the surface at this time. Maybe you can help to make this reasoning clearer?:original:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Ara, much to respond to above, but this I feel I must state here and now. This has not been made public at all, here at this forum is the first non controlled media this has surfaced. Simply because i believe the truth seeking individuals here need to know, not act upon, but know. Obviously this cannot find its way into mass media for obvious, stated, reasons. Also, to clear a point that might be confusing. I actually have worked within a psychological operations unit and still have active ties with them, but these days as a consultant due to my age and health conditions. So, please take it from me, no official wishes the data concerning the 5 to be widely known. Here at this small pond called Avalon there is no worry or concerns that this data will suddenly become known en masse.:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Hi Ara, much to respond to above, but this I feel I must state here and now.

This has not been made public at all, here at this forum is the first non controlled media this has surfaced.

Simply because i believe the truth seeking individuals here need to know, not act upon, but know.

***thank you. :)

Obviously this cannot find its way into mass media for obvious, stated, reasons.

Also, to clear a point that might be confusing. I actually have worked within a psychological operations unit and still have active ties with them, but these days as a consultant due to my age and health conditions.

***ok. :) ( & I won't go there! LOL)

So, please take it from me, no official wishes the data concerning the 5 to be widely known.

Here at this small pond called Avalon there is no worry or concerns that this data will suddenly become known en masse.:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

LOL Barry I just sent you an email. Talk about crossed timing.:original:

Ok thank you so much for explaining the above. You've cleared my understanding. Much Appreciation.:original: :flowers2:

All the Best
Ara

[James Casbolt]

Barry, may I ask a simple question? ( I know you can't say too much on a public forum )

At Greenham Common in 1981, fifteen children were divided into three groups of 5

At Trapdoor in 2006 many artifacts in glass cabinets were shown

I get the feeling there are many groups of five with a linked artifact- is this correct?

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, may I ask a simple question? ( I know you can't say too much on a public forum )

At Greenham Common in 1981, fifteen children were divided into three groups of 5

At Trapdoor in 2006 many artifacts in glass cabinets were shown

I get the feeling there are many groups of five with a linked artifact- is this correct?

Hi James, there may well be others but there is ONLY one group of 5 that could accomplish what has been stated above. For security reasons I cannot detail the artefacts these 5 individuals have linked to them.:original:


Regards


THE WATCHER

[Jacqui D]

Do you know anything about the two crashed satellites?
Were they that or ufo's fired on, we know that these ufo's are being shot down at a rate of 5 a month said by James.
Do you think they have hushed up debris of ufo's by saying these were satellites.

Surely it would be a billion to one that two satellites "happen" to collide!

Have you heard anything Barry?

[THEWATCHER]

Do you know anything about the two crashed satellites?
Were they that or ufo's fired on, we know that these ufo's are being shot down at a rate of 5 a month said by James.
Do you think they have hushed up debris of ufo's by saying these were satellites.

Surely it would be a billion to one that two satellites "happen" to collide!

Have you heard anything Barry?

The word being whispered in the corridors is that these were indeed two actual sats but the collision was not accidental. The whispers are continuing and will post what i glean from these whisperers.:original:

warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Hi James, there may well be others but there is ONLY one group of 5 that could accomplish what has been stated above. For security reasons I cannot detail the artefacts these 5 individuals have linked to them.:original:

Regards
THE WATCHER

Hi Barry, are the identities of all 5 known by the group helping you to reveal information? I'm referring to the 'human' contingency assisting not OPI.:original:

It seems the 5 are parts of the Machine itself. The 'Machine'/'Device' only works with the sum of all its parts. Very Interesting indeed.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry, are the identities of all 5 known by the group helping you to reveal information? I'm referring to the 'human' contingency assisting not OPI.:original:

It seems the 5 are parts of the Machine itself. The 'Machine'/'Device' only works with the sum of all its parts. Very Interesting indeed.:original:

All the Best
Ara

Yes the identities and whereabouts are known:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Yes the identities and whereabouts are known:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

Hi Barry,

Do these people know themselves what they are?


Best Regards
Iain

[iainl140285]

The word being whispered in the corridors is that these were indeed two actual sats but the collision was not accidental. The whispers are continuing and will post what i glean from these whisperers.:original:

warmest regards

THE WATCHER

Hi Barry

Does this have anything to do with the crashed subs between UK and France?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7892294.stm

I love the reason (which may or may not be true) that their anti sonar tech. was so good that they never seen each other coming :lmfao: Anything is possible though ..


Best Regards
Iain

[James Casbolt]

No Caste= X & Y= Probable time co-ordinates Barry

[iainl140285]

No Caste= X & Y= Probable time co-ordinates Barry


An X coordinate value denotes a location that is relative to a point of reference to the east or west. A Y coordinate value denotes a location that is relative to a point of reference to the north or south.


Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

Do these people know themselves what they are?


Best Regards
Iain
yes, they have been in this specific condition and awareness for a very long time


Regards


THE WATCHER

[James Casbolt]

yes, they have been in this specific condition and awareness for a very long time


Regards


THE WATCHER

Are any of the 5 in the UK?

[James Casbolt]

Hi James, there may well be others but there is ONLY one group of 5 that could accomplish what has been stated above. For security reasons I cannot detail the artefacts these 5 individuals have linked to them.:original:


Regards


THE WATCHER

Do each of the 5 have one artifact?

5 people, 5 artifacts?

Or just one artifact for the whole 5?

[iainl140285]

yes, they have been in this specific condition and awareness for a very long time


Regards


THE WATCHER

Do they live regular life spans? Can they/will they be replaced when their time is up?

Are they treated as people, special people - or are they used as tools?


Best Regards
Iain

[Colin]

Barry:

Do SECTOR12, BLUE Clearance, or Cleary mean anything to you?

[THEWATCHER]

Are any of the 5 in the UK?

Yes James, one of the 5 currently is here in the UK:original:


Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Do each of the 5 have one artifact?

5 people, 5 artifacts?

Or just one artifact for the whole 5?

One artefact to each individual, 5 individuals, 5 artefacts, forming a complete unit:original:


Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Do they live regular life spans? Can they/will they be replaced when their time is up?

Are they treated as people, special people - or are they used as tools?


Best Regards
Iain

They fit into normal society very well, regular life spans but less prone to injuries, etc. Cannot dwell too much on this area. Everyday people, as no attention to be drawn towards them. A cycle replaces each individual group of 5, ensuring constant coverage of the planet.

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Barry:

Do SECTOR12, BLUE Clearance, or Cleary mean anything to you?

I've just noticed this over at James's thread, it means nothing to me sorry

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry

Does this have anything to do with the crashed subs between UK and France?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7892294.stm

I love the reason (which may or may not be true) that their anti sonar tech. was so good that they never seen each other coming :lmfao: Anything is possible though ..


Best Regards
Iain

No whispers in the corridor on this I'm afraid

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

Do these people know themselves what they are?


Best Regards
Iain

Yes they do:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

[Helvetic]

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6334/509dz0.th.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=509dz0.jpg)

This just came into my mind...:winksmiley02:

[THEWATCHER]

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6334/509dz0.th.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=509dz0.jpg)

This just came into my mind...:winksmiley02:

Just that image? no thoughts or feelings?:original:

Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

It has been suggested I get back on track re my history timeline, so this I will resume later today, resuming with edited version of March 10th 1976 CE4 abduction.............

Regards

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

It has been suggested I get back on track re my history timeline, so this I will resume later today, resuming with edited version of March 10th 1976 CE4 abduction.............

Regards

THE WATCHER

Hi Barry,

Been looking forward to getting back to your time line :thumb_yello:

I was wondering, will you be going back over the questions asked a few days ago? :original:


Thanks
Best Regards
Iain

[Helvetic]

Barry, this is what I got to my RV session:

Textures:
edged, hard, metallic, sharp, matte

Colors:
beige, golden, reflective, grey

Tastes:
metallic, stony

Temperatures:
cold, cool, room

Sounds:
clanking, humming, rhythmic

Dimensions:
circling, cylindrical, flat, heavy, spinning, square

AI:
friendly, joyful, reflective
-------
That Stonehenge could be connected in a way back. That was just another influence.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

Been looking forward to getting back to your time line :thumb_yello:

I was wondering, will you be going back over the questions asked a few days ago? :original:


Thanks
Best Regards
Iain

I will respond to those questions as and when I can. I'm behind schedule with the timeline so will be catching up on that first.:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, this is what I got to my RV session:

Textures:
edged, hard, metallic, sharp, matte

Colors:
beige, golden, reflective, grey

Tastes:
metallic, stony

Temperatures:
cold, cool, room

Sounds:
clanking, humming, rhythmic

Dimensions:
circling, cylindrical, flat, heavy, spinning, square

AI:
friendly, joyful, reflective
-------
That Stonehenge could be connected in a way back. That was just another influence.


Hmm, interesting, thinking on this, thankyou:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Will resume ASAP:original:

Apologies and regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

On the late evening of March 10th 1976 I experienced a full blown CE4 event from my home. Everyone else in the house was in bed as I sat and watched late night TV, winding down for the day. This account will be edited in a heavy manner for the purposes of time. I got up to make myself a drink, left the lounge and headed for the kitchen. I stopped abruptly at the kitchen doorway as standing there, just yards away, was the faceless being seen both at Barn Hill in 1974 and in my back garden in August of the same year. It stood motionless, over 6ft 6" in height. I then slipped into blackness and felt as if I were falling, in kind of slow motion. I then recalled standing in a brightly lit but small room, capsule shaped, next to this faceless being, we faced a door. The door opened and there stood two small grey beings with large heads and huge black round eyes. I was led out of this room by the two small beings, one either side of me and led away along a corridor. A full tour, medical procedures and others were then initiated. At the end of this I was again escorted by two of these small beings back to the capsule shaped room, inside the tall faceless being stood, waiting. Inside I passed out again. I awoke to find myself lying on the kitchen floor. Struggling to my feet I held onto the cooker as I got up, then looked at the clock on the cooker. Several hours had lapsed. I steadied my nerves with a ciggie and a cup of tea. Trembling I slowly made my way upstairs to my room and tried to sleep. I decided, some days later, as recurring strange nightmares plagued me, to write all i could recall and place it with someone I could totally trust to keep the info confidential. This person was Mr Norman Oliver of BUFORA. He wrote back afterwards saying he would keep the confidence and hoped I was doing ok. I was pretty much out of things for a while. Health was not great, found trying to concentrate on anything was near impossible. My family noted that I was becoming a wreck. My younger brothers decided to help by way of taking me out at weekends to places around Essex and Kent, just to get me out and about. It worked to a degree. On one such trip we visited Borley church in Essex, famous for the Borley rectory ghost sightings years before. At dusk we made our way from the car to the church. It being locked at night we looked around the outsides, peering in thru the large windows where we could. I noticed two small bright white lights inside, near the Waldergrave monument, and tried to get a focus with my camera. The two small spheres of light bounced around and headed for the window. We shrieked like a load of school kids and ran back to the car LOL. Upon gaining composure we returned to the church but the spheres of light had gone. So much for intrepid ghosthunters LOL. We move next to the weekend of October 9th and 10th 1976 where a group of us set out for Warminster.......................

[THEWATCHER]

We planned the trip to the West Country, to cover areas such as Warminster, Stonehenge, Avebury, Silbury Hill etc, as a research trip. Myself, My younger brother Steve, his friend and Andy Collins, all set off in Steves car on the Friday evening. For some unknown reason our schedule, tightly worked out, went askew as we missed the turnoff on the motorway and took longer to backtrack to Warminster. By the time we hit the outskirts of that town it was raining, foggy, and miserable. We drove slowly in the fog trying to find a place to set base for the night. We drove along a small road on the edges of the Imber ranges. To our right we noticed a bright small white light. It was like the headlamp of a motorcycle. Its movements as it came towards us was as if a motorcycle was transversing a ploughed field, up and down each furrow. It came towards us and half expecting to see an actual motorbike we were astonished to see it zoom towards us and shoot straight over the car. No sound discerned, only the cold wet of the fog surrounding us. We were perplexed but thought no more of it. We drove on very slowly and found a suitable base camp further along the road.
There is some memory mix coming next, during the actual first night. We tried to sleep in the car itself, not very comfortable, it was cold and damp but we had little choice. The mix up comes as, later, much later I recall getting out of the car and walking along the small road during the small hours. Andy is not sure if he remembers waking and watching me leave the car, thinking perhaps I'd gone for a pee. I have no recollection of getting past a certain point on the road, next, its back in the car sleeping.
We spent the whole of Saturday and Sunday exploring and was a great time. Leaving for home on early Sunday evening.
Some time later, months maybe, Andy contacted Arthur Shuttlewood in Warminster and mentioned the strange light we saw. Arthur wrote back saying we could well have witnessed what was known locally as the 'ghostly motorcycle', as many others had reported similar things. Quite some time later Arthur covered our sighting in one of his books, indeed corresponsence between him and I resulted in his covering aspects of my paranormal experiences within the pages of one of his books.
We travel onto Feb of 1977, Myself and Andy join the elite newly founded research organisation, UFOIN, set up and backed by FSR magazine, setup between Jenny Randles and the top UK researchers of the time. I set up Europes first 24/7/365 UFO HOTLINE, 1977 was a flap year in the UK strangely enough as it turned out. And somehow we (Andy and me) seemed to get the very best of the cases drop right into our laps.

[THEWATCHER]

1977 and 1978 were both extremely busy years for us research wise. It was mostly a 24 hour thing for Andy and myself, well, moreso myself as Andy was tied up with a job in London daytimes.
We had a very good closely linked liaison with the authorities in our designated area. Forming links with Police, the media, Universities, Coastguards and the like. Reports came directly to us instantly. We were both very high profile, mag and newspaper articles galore, mentioned in books, research journals etc. In '78 I even had a film crew from Australia filming a 30 minute segment for some program or other. I had phone calls from radio stations worldwide wanting interviews. It was a very busy time. It was also during this period that I became directly involved with UK/US government and Military factions. A number of meetings were attended. These involved a sort of incentive to assist them, they dangled carrots in my face and I allowed the meetings to let them think I was their boy. It was during these that I was first given access to my files, well, some of them, as many were clipped together denying access. But enough to see what had gone on with my life since childbirth. Some heavy stuff, some things that angered me, some that shook me to the core. Other files were shown in other meetings. I would be sat at a desk in a small office, sat at another desk would be a suit, casually watching over me as i read the files. The lighting was arranged so that it was around me, i knew damn well there was a camera filming from the window. I was not supposed to know of course but the way the lighting was configured it did not take Sherlock Holmes to work out why. These were files of photo's in B/W and Color, taken globally, by civilians and Military. Some gun camera shots too. A number of films were shown, color and B/W, civilian and Military.Some began but had a 'restricted' bar come across the screen then it would end.A great deal of other material was given me to digest, on numerous topics. May try and relate this another time.
It was during 1977 and 1978 that I was one of the main sources of materials for the media. I had extensive libraries of photo's and film covering the Ufo subject. Regularly I would be approached by TV companies wanting material for a programme or doc,. same for books, magazines and newspapers. We featured in conferences, etc, etc, it was damn hectic but fun. Sometimes running a full 18 hours before I'd get a chance to sit down and rest, then at 3am the phone would go, some officer reporting something LOL.

[THEWATCHER]

Enter January 1979, now this is where things go into the twilight zone bigtime!! And this is where a strange coincidence takes place. James mentioned a facility in Ashburton South Devon. It is here I spent a week with a girlfriend and cannot to this day account for a lot of the time there.

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Nope, not James:original:
There are other Wolves whom have been around much longer

THE WATCHER

(responding to your other questions shortly)

Dr Michael Wolff Kruvant?

[THEWATCHER]

Dr Michael Wolff Kruvant?

Yes, but also perhaps much closer to home perhaps:original:


Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Yes, but also perhaps much closer to home perhaps:original:


Warmest regards

THE WATCHER


Yourself? .....:original:

Best Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

:thumb_yello:

Regards


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

There are other Wolves whom have been around much longer


Barry, you're Advanced in Soul but a Young One at Heart :original:

All the Best my Friend,
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

[B]


Barry, you're Advanced in Soul but a Young One at Heart :original:

All the Best my Friend,
Ara


[I] heHeHe, thankyou:original:

Warmest regards Ara, glad to see you back

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Enter January 1979, now this is where things go into the twilight zone bigtime!! And this is where a strange coincidence takes place. James mentioned a facility in Ashburton South Devon. It is here I spent a week with a girlfriend and cannot to this day account for a lot of the time there.

THE WATCHER

up until James mentioned that he received Intel from a contact of his (unverified by me) last year about a facility of some kind situated in Ashburton South Devon, I never gave this January 1979 event too much thought. Now I'm trying to piece together data regarding this which is coupled to another strange set of circumstances in which I was to be placed in contact with the very woman whom was my girlfriend in January of '79. Further strangeness is that she works now for GCHQ Cheltenham. Curiouser and curiouser I think.
Looking back, with several blank areas, I seem to now have suspicians as to exactly why i felt it of paramount importance to travel to Devon at short notice, to actually take out a bank loan for the trip, (what sort of expenses was I supposed to be facing? in order to go to the trouble of getting a loan from the bank?). Something occurred during that time but it eludes me.And just as strange I finished with that girlfriend two months later and by a weird set of circumstances married a woman in the Cotswolds whom had deep dark secrets of her own. As silly and strange as this may sound I'm convinced this was a setup, a marriage convenient for certain parties that tried to totally control my life from that time on.


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Off track for a moment, these you might find interesting:original:




http://www.policeufo.com/

http://prufospolicedatabase.co.uk/3.html (Re my Hainault report)

Warmest regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

As I moved into my new home in the small Cotswolds village in March of 1979 my whole life changed. Although losing most of my contacts initially I soon re-established these links. During the first 6 months of moving in I received literally hundreds of visitors. Ranging from local and not so local ufo investigators/researchers, the media got wind of my new address, plus assorted Military and Intel types, British and American. I even received a request from the then nearby RAF Kemble to give a talk to RAF aircrews on the topic of Ufos. West Country researchers from not so far away Warminster descended upon my home at all hours. I was kept on my toes by this as you can imagine. An interview with BBC Bristol was also arranged. Gossip in small villages we all know about and here was no exception. Who was this young whippersnapper from London who has moved here? He gets so many people calling at his home including Military, what gives? LOL LOL. Also, on a downside, I soon became aware of many strange, often terrifying things happening in this house, paranormal events. Lucky for me I was somewhat used to strange things so these did not faze me too much, even when I was shoved down the stairs by unseen hands whilst in the house alone. In May Andy and his then girlfriend called at my home to pass me copies of our first edition of our glossy magazine "Strange Phenomena". A research mag put together by its 3 founders, myself, Andy Collins and parapsychologist Graham Phillips. Published from our HQ (Grahams home) in Wolverhampton. Months later we published issue 2, after that we lost financial backing and issue 3 never saw the light of day. I tried to explain discreetly to Andy during this brief visit of all the weird stuff going down. He sensed much but could do little. I kept a record of events and posted a letter to Norman Oliver in London, asking him to keep these confidential, I simply wanted someone to know what was happening. Also during this time period, as this will have a direct bearing on later events. My then wife was watching TV one evening, I was busy checking some paperwork. She called over to me to look at the TV screen saying something to the effect of "Look, Dr Jolly, thats my doctor". I looked up and at the TV to see some guys picture and his name underneath. Was not paying too much attention but later it fitted in with things. She had pointed out as being her doctor Dr Louis West. Months later I found out whom he was and what he was famous for.

To be continued..................

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

July 1979, uniforms and suits called one day, the enforced 'offer' of an interesting position within a facility was made to me. The signing of the OSA and American Security Oaths............very dark days ahead.

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

The next part of the timeline, August 1979 to January 1980, my first stint at the Peasemore facility will not be detailed here and now, but separately, later. I will briefly detail events from January 1980 to November 1980 when I was recalled into the facility. Again, November 1980 to January/February 1981, my seconf stint, will also not be detailed here yet.

regards

THE WATCHER

[Rory]

Thanks so much for sharing this information with us all Barry. The cross-over between your and James' information is a real validator of the truth you both speak. It is like you started the race and have handed the baton to James but are just getting ready for the next lap when the baton will be passed back and vice versa! I was blown away when I read The Voice Files this summer and applaud your bravery. Your name will live on forever in the annals of human freedom and empowerment :thumb_yello:

Yours with much gratitude :original:

[Rory]

Just a thought everyone: despite all the great evidence coming to light from brave researchers like Barry and James etc it still seems to me that the masses are so absorbed in sport, mindless soaps, the cult of celebrity, gratuitous vioence in movies and video games and a dog eat dog attitude and junk food pleasure centred reality that there will never be an awakening, at least not for a long time. I suppose I've just got frustrated over the last 12 years that virtually no-one will listen to the information I've come across and just don't buy the conspiracy claiming that if it was true it would be in the mainstream media and that it is 'human nature' to kill and do evil and this will never change. These can be quite difficult arguments to overcome, especially with people who blindly accept the status quo. It appears to me that the powers that be have it all wrapped up. The vast majority of people blindly accepted 14 million CCTV cameras in the UK and I don't think most people would refuse microchips either if it meant they didn't have to carry a wallet around. It is frustrating that the truth is still so fringe and that truly open souls are restricted to forums like this and don't have a bigger platform. I will always hope but the vast majority already seem to be mind-contolled lemmings. Anyway rant over! :wall: Thoughts anyone?? :original:

[THEWATCHER]

Thanks so much for sharing this information with us all Barry. The cross-over between your and James' information is a real validator of the truth you both speak. It is like you started the race and have handed the baton to James but are just getting ready for the next lap when the baton will be passed back and vice versa! I was blown away when I read The Voice Files this summer and applaud your bravery. Your name will live on forever in the annals of human freedom and empowerment :thumb_yello:

Yours with much gratitude :original:


Thankyou Rory for those very kind words, yes you could say myself and James are travelling along parallel tracks:original:. The truth will out, and it belongs to everyone

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[Jacqui D]

Just a thought everyone: despite all the great evidence coming to light from brave researchers like Barry and James etc it still seems to me that the masses are so absorbed in sport, mindless soaps, the cult of celebrity, gratuitous vioence in movies and video games and a dog eat dog attitude and junk food pleasure centred reality that there will never be an awakening, at least not for a long time. I suppose I've just got frustrated over the last 12 years that virtually no-one will listen to the information I've come across and just don't buy the conspiracy claiming that if it was true it would be in the mainstream media and that it is 'human nature' to kill and do evil and this will never change. These can be quite difficult arguments to overcome, especially with people who blindly accept the status quo. It appears to me that the powers that be have it all wrapped up. The vast majority of people blindly accepted 14 million CCTV cameras in the UK and I don't think most people would refuse microchips either if it meant they didn't have to carry a wallet around. It is frustrating that the truth is still so fringe and that truly open souls are restricted to forums like this and don't have a bigger platform. I will always hope but the vast majority already seem to be mind-contolled lemmings. Anyway rant over! :wall: Thoughts anyone?? :original:

Hi Rory well said i feel the sheeple have missed the boat so to speak and i can't really see how their tranformation will come now.
My journey has been a long one as so many on Avalon this has not been a sudden awaken it's been a long continuous trek and a blasted hard one at that.

[THEWATCHER]

As far as I'm concerned the doors to witheld secrets is opening wider by the day, I certainly have my shoulder against it closing:original:

Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

The next part of the timeline, August 1979 to January 1980, my first stint at the Peasemore facility will not be detailed here and now, but separately, later. I will briefly detail events from January 1980 to November 1980 when I was recalled into the facility. Again, November 1980 to January/February 1981, my seconf stint, will also not be detailed here yet.

regards

THE WATCHER

The controllers at the facility did a great job in trying to mess my body and mind as they released me in January of 1980. I'd become too much of a liability to them. This followed two weeks after my wife tried to kill me, whilst in a frenzied psycho state. Somehow word was put out by someone to my parents and family in Dagenham that I was in a very bad way. I'm told two car loads of relatives drove all the way to the Cotswolds and brought me and my belongings back to my parents home. Here I was to receive care and treatment away from a deranged wife and work which although my family knew little ab out they soon put two and two together. I was totally messed up, not knowing who I was, zonked out and lethargic, my parents were worried so much they called in professionals to check me out. I was diagnosed with severe stress, in fact PTSD, my doctors notes stated I had undergone severe trauma physically and psychologically. It took months to regain any level of normality.


By early May I felt sufficiently strong enough to contact some people about my situation. On May 9th a meeting was set up with a UK politician whom had many connections and not a little clout within politics. He was to hear everything I could detail about the past 10 months. On the way to this meeting I suddenly collapsed, I was in London already, within few miles of the meeting location. I was rushed to ST.Barts hospital. When I came round I was surrounded by medical staff whom stated I had suffered a massive heart attack and that I was very lucky to be alive. The left side of my chest was puffed up and this caused concern. I received treatment for this locally. In fact I have suffered with Angina ever since and had one or two mild strokes. Continuing to slowly recover at my parents home I was contacted by one of the local newspapers, they got wind of my return to Dagenham.


They were interested in the hotline i set up back in 1977 and wanted to know if it was still in operation. Briefly stating that from early last year it was manned by parents and had few calls anyway, it was virtually closed. They found this of sufficient interest to write a small article in their newspaper. Not long after that I got a call from the BBC, they were very keen on an interview with me. My interview appeared on their daily news programme "Nationwide", my interviewer was that lovely lady Sue Lawley.


I became a bit of a celebrity the day after this aired on TV around my area, being stopped in the street, in shops etc, by people saying "saw you on the TV last night" LOL. I settled down again to peace and calm, that is until I was rushed back into the facility in early November. Evidently my plans of talking with someone in May, the TV interview and newspaper article just recently, they were taking no further chances. Get me back in where they could control me and my mouth. Very strict control.

[Rory]

Indeed Jacqui the spiritual path is one fraught with challenges but the rewards are wonderful. Let's hope that more information comes out and more people have a chance to awake from their slumber :original:
Barry - I remember at the end of The Voice Files you were told that you weren't allowed to release anymore information so had to stop posting in that forum. I presume you have now got the go ahead to start revealing information again? Your heart attack in London was clearly triggered deliberately by one of your implants to stop you attending that meeting. Thank God you are still with us after such a trauma - these people are brutal. I've heard that because they are fire-fighting now that they don't have the same manpower to monitor everyone so more stuff is thus leaking out?

[THEWATCHER]

Indeed Jacqui the spiritual path is one fraught with challenges but the rewards are wonderful. Let's hope that more information comes out and more people have a chance to awake from their slumber :original:
Barry - I remember at the end of The Voice Files you were told that you weren't allowed to release anymore information so had to stop posting in that forum. I presume you have now got the go ahead to start revealing information again? Your heart attack in London was clearly triggered deliberately by one of your implants to stop you attending that meeting. Thank God you are still with us after such a trauma - these people are brutal. I've heard that because they are fire-fighting now that they don't have the same manpower to monitor everyone so more stuff is thus leaking out?

Certain green lights went up so data being presented whilst they remain green. True, its difficult keeping tabs on many small fry individuals so whilst the cats away:original:

Warmest regards


THE WATCHER

[Rory]

When you say 'green flag' do you mean from the rebel faction inside the intelligence community who want the truth to come out or the government itself? I notice that James has also posted stuff which he said the UK/US government have allowed to be made public. I just thought I'd ask as many people would be sceptical of any information the government would be willing to release as many feel the government is corrupt and responsible for the conspiracy and pulling the wool over people eyes. Thx Barry

[THEWATCHER]

When you say 'green flag' do you mean from the rebel faction inside the intelligence community who want the truth to come out or the government itself? I notice that James has also posted stuff which he said the UK/US government have allowed to be made public. I just thought I'd ask as many people would be sceptical of any information the government would be willing to release as many feel the government is corrupt and responsible for the conspiracy and pulling the wool over people eyes. Thx Barry


The faction within Intel circles I am working with that desire an end to the secrecy and the massive amounts of money being used in black programs that could in effect end sickness and poverty:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

[Rory]

The faction within Intel circles I am working with that desire an end to the secrecy and the massive amounts of money being used in black programs that could in effect end sickness and poverty:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

Yes it always amazes me how expensive everything is these days and often wondered where all the money goes cos we certainly don't see it in improvements to social services! I often say that you get charged to breathe now in London. Let's hope you and your friend's brave efforts pay off. It is a disgrace that they have access to free energy and healing technology that could put an end to poverty and sickness. May the truth prevail :original:

[iainl140285]

The controllers at the facility did a great job in trying to mess my body and mind as they released me in January of 1980. I'd become too much of a liability to them. This followed two weeks after my wife tried to kill me, whilst in a frenzied psycho state. Somehow word was put out by someone to my parents and family in Dagenham that I was in a very bad way. I'm told two car loads of relatives drove all the way to the Cotswolds and brought me and my belongings back to my parents home. Here I was to receive care and treatment away from a deranged wife and work which although my family knew little ab out they soon put two and two together. I was totally messed up, not knowing who I was, zonked out and lethargic, my parents were worried so much they called in professionals to check me out. I was diagnosed with severe stress, in fact PTSD, my doctors notes stated I had undergone severe trauma physically and psychologically. It took months to regain any level of normality.


By early May I felt sufficiently strong enough to contact some people about my situation. On May 9th a meeting was set up with a UK politician whom had many connections and not a little clout within politics. He was to hear everything I could detail about the past 10 months. On the way to this meeting I suddenly collapsed, I was in London already, within few miles of the meeting location. I was rushed to ST.Barts hospital. When I came round I was surrounded by medical staff whom stated I had suffered a massive heart attack and that I was very lucky to be alive. The left side of my chest was puffed up and this caused concern. I received treatment for this locally. In fact I have suffered with Angina ever since and had one or two mild strokes. Continuing to slowly recover at my parents home I was contacted by one of the local newspapers, they got wind of my return to Dagenham.


They were interested in the hotline i set up back in 1977 and wanted to know if it was still in operation. Briefly stating that from early last year it was manned by parents and had few calls anyway, it was virtually closed. They found this of sufficient interest to write a small article in their newspaper. Not long after that I got a call from the BBC, they were very keen on an interview with me. My interview appeared on their daily news programme "Nationwide", my interviewer was that lovely lady Sue Lawley.


I became a bit of a celebrity the day after this aired on TV around my area, being stopped in the street, in shops etc, by people saying "saw you on the TV last night" LOL. I settled down again to peace and calm, that is until I was rushed back into the facility in early November. Evidently my plans of talking with someone in May, the TV interview and newspaper article just recently, they were taking no further chances. Get me back in where they could control me and my mouth. Very strict control.



Hi Barry I hope you are well :original:

It would seem that they have always had your number so to speak, even from a young age.

Did they ever tell you why?
Do you know why?

Peace
Kind Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Iain, yes I'm doing ok thanks. Yes it was explained in great detail to me but I'm not sure if this is the right place and time to enter that arena. I'll think on it:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Hi Iain, yes I'm doing ok thanks. Yes it was explained in great detail to me but I'm not sure if this is the right place and time to enter that arena. I'll think on it:original:

Regards

THE WATCHER

Hi Barry,.

Thats completely ok! As long as you know why :original:
If I were you that would be my number one question that I'd like them to answer.

Im looking forward to the next part of your story.

Best Regards
Iain

[James Casbolt]

Barry,

Six Fathers/Kings in our DNA

Uriel- Eagle

Gabriel- Reptile

Michael- White Wolf

Raphael- White Tiger

Chamuel- ?

Zadkiel- ?

Seal of Solomon- The art of shapeshifting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cET_IRLcJI&feature=related

[THEWATCHER]

Barry,

Six Fathers/Kings in our DNA

Uriel- Eagle

Gabriel- Reptile

Michael- White Wolf

Raphael- White Tiger

Chamuel- ?

Zadkiel- ?

Seal of Solomon- The art of shapeshifting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cET_IRLcJI&feature=related







Very interesting James, very interesting

Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Back on track shortly. FYI, the reason I am posting some data re my history, my past, is that you can all see I have a background, a verifiable checkable background. Have not like so many, simply come in from the streets saying this saying that. My history goes back aways, official research wise to mid 1960's as you can see. Thankyou


Regards

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Backi on track shortly. FYI, the reason I am posting some data re my history, my past, is that you can all see I have a background, a verifiable checkable background. Have not like so many, simply come in from the streets saying this saying that. My history goes back aways, official research wise to mid 1960's as you can see. Thankyou


Regards

THE WATCHER

Barry after perusing through your history it shows you've experienced and witnessed a broad spectrum of out of the ordinary events. This places you in a unique position as an avid researcher/investigator and now whistle-blower who has 'walked the walk', having personally experienced many para-normal events.

You've certainly walked the gamut of para-normal experiences induced by both military and OPI. It's good to see your sanity & heart are still intact.:original:

On another note, has Michael Salla delved into your testimonies yet?

Take Care and Many thanks for everything. :flowers2:

Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Ara, good to see you here. To my knowledge no he has not. Was informed a few days ago by researcher Miles Johnston that the new DVD releases he has put together, "Bases 2 Take 2" is commercially available. He was at the recent Ufo Congress in Laughlin, Nevada, and it appears a segment of the DVD was shown. Miles states the interest in my disclosures was very good and that I had been on 'the big screen' LOL. Hollywood here I come NOT!!:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Site Admin will say this is advertising (Verboten!!) so will see how long these remain..................

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/BASES2TAKE2DVDFRONTCOVER.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/BASES2TAKE2REARCOVER.jpg

[Ara]

Hi Ara, good to see you here. To my knowledge no he has not. Was informed a few days ago by researcher Miles Johnston that the new DVD releases he has put together, "Bases 2 Take 2" is commercially available. He was at the recent Ufo Congress in Laughlin, Nevada, and it appears a segment of the DVD was shown. Miles states the interest in my disclosures was very good and that I had been on 'the big screen' LOL. Hollywood here I come NOT!!:original:

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

Seems odd that Michael Salla has not taken an interest in your testimonies. Then again there are many who seem to turn a blind eye to certain information unfortunately.

The new DVD looks very interesting. Hopefully interest in your disclosures will be elevated so those with eyes to see and ears to hear will take notice and act.

Congratulations on making it to the big screen! Look out Brad Pitt.LOL

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Seems odd that Michael Salla has not taken an interest in your testimonies. Then again there are many who seem to turn a blind eye to certain information unfortunately.

The new DVD looks very interesting. Hopefully interest in your disclosures will be elevated so those with eyes to see and ears to hear will take notice and act.

Congratulations on making it to the big screen! Look out Brad Pitt.LOL

All the Best
Ara
Thankyou for those very kind words Ara. Brad, have no worries my friend LOL LOL LOL

Warmest regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

August 1979 to January 1980.....disclosing later on
November 1980 to January/February 1981......disclosing later on
1987 and 1988 truckstops......disclosing later on
Late 1993, meeting up with oldtime colleague Andy Collins.....Came into contact with conspiracy researcher Mary Seal.....her proposed blowing up of the Birmingham BT tower, etc......disclosing later on
1994 (February)...THE VOICE FILES begin..............

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Unverified at this time but whispers along corridor suggesting that covert placement of UN marked vehicles, of several types, are being transported into certain specific US military facilities via rail and road. Using flatbed trucks, ordinary looking 18 wheel rigs and covered with tarps on railroad cars. New Mexico is one of the locations whispered so far.

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Unverified at this time but whispers along corridor suggesting that covert placement of UN marked vehicles, of several types, are being transported into certain specific US military facilities via rail and road. Using flatbed trucks, ordinary looking 18 wheel rigs and covered with tarps on railroad cars. New Mexico is one of the locations whispered so far.

THE WATCHER

Barry, Any whispers on "why"?

[iainl140285]

Unverified at this time but whispers along corridor suggesting that covert placement of UN marked vehicles, of several types, are being transported into certain specific US military facilities via rail and road. Using flatbed trucks, ordinary looking 18 wheel rigs and covered with tarps on railroad cars. New Mexico is one of the locations whispered so far.

THE WATCHER

Hi Barry,

Any insight into why specifically the UN is in the US? :winksmiley02:


Best Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Am trying to gather further info at this time but as you can imagine they wish to keep the lid pretty well down tight right now.

THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Am trying to gather further info at this time but as you can imagine they wish to keep the lid pretty well down tight right now.

THE WATCHER

Ok. Good luck then. :)

All the Best
Ara

[Rory]

Hi Barry,

Any insight into why specifically the UN is in the US? :winksmiley02:


Best Regards
Iain


Maybe the UN is earmarked to become the One World Army as some researchers have suggested?

[Rory]

I am half way through 'Alien Interview' which is the apparent transcripts of a US army nurse called Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy who telepathically interviewed a grey that survived the Roswell crash. She released the info just before her death feling that humanity shoudl know the truth. You can read it here - http://www.theparacast.com/alieninterview/AlienInterview.pdf

It presents some quite disturbing info and basically says that Earth is a 'prison planet' where rebellious, criminal or alternative/artistic souls who are rejected by their often totalitarian ET societies are sent and trapped in an eternal cycle of re-incarnation onto Earth. The souls get trapped by a planetary forcefield that catches them when they die and they are given massive electric shocks to erase their memeories of previous lifetimes and re-incarnated into Earth bodies. Any thoughts?

[Jacqui D]

I am half way through 'Alien Interview' which is the apparent transcripts of a US army nurse called Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy who telepathically interviewed a grey that survived the Roswell crash. She released the info just before her death feling that humanity shoudl know the truth. You can read it here - http://www.theparacast.com/alieninterview/AlienInterview.pdf

It presents some quite disturbing info and basically says that Earth is a 'prison planet' where rebellious, criminal or alternative/artistic souls who are rejected by their often totalitarian ET societies are sent and trapped in an eternal cycle of re-incarnation onto Earth. The souls get trapped by a planetary forcefield that catches them when they die and they are given massive electric shocks to erase their memeories of previous lifetimes and re-incarnated into Earth bodies. Any thoughts?

Hi Rory,
This sounds a little like Peggy Kane's announcements in which she was given false information falsely leading her to believe certain issues on life after death and how we are trapped in the astral world also.
Her informant was duping her for his own gratification.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_V_0ij_sU
There are a few to watch but this is part 1.

[Rory]

Hi Rory,
This sounds a little like Peggy Kane's announcements in which she was given false information falsely leading her to believe certain issues on life after death and how we are trapped in the astral world also.
Her informant was duping her for his own gratification.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_V_0ij_sU
There are a few to watch but this is part 1.

Thanks Jacqui - I'll check ths out.

Interestingly Alien Interview also says that the whole reptilians masquerading as our gods thing is false info and I remember the case of that supposed 'genuine' old illumintai family insider who randomly appeared on a forum for a few weeks and also said that earth was like a prison and that Icke was deliberately fed the reptilian info by plants in order to mislead. He said if people such as the Queen etc are in the public eye then they are not the real leaders but just puppets as the real leaders would never reveal themselves. Who knows, but I find that good misinfo always has elements of truth in order to hook people in. It's a veritable minefield trying to navigate the misinfo!

[THEWATCHER]

Situations that require attending to will mean I shall be away for a while, will resume posting at a later date, Thankyou.


THE WATCHER

[Northern Boy]

I believe that the U.S. military is afraid that enlisted and National Guard members will not fire on U.S. citizens if the order is given and thus they need an outside presence with no attachment to America or its citizens should this order be given . The problem they are going to face is many U.S. soldiers are I feel going to switch sides or jump the fence when this does happen. This could be why European and other forces have been training over here and in fact some are stationed here now

[Deb]

Can you indicate areas of these five, do they know you and do you know them?

[Egg]

I actually have worked within a psychological operations unit and still have active ties with them, but these days as a consultant due to my age and health conditions.


See below.

[Egg]

Was your employment as a psyops member before, after or during your time as a security guard? was it / is it still a UK posting or an American posting? was it as a Commissioned Officer or as a Non-Comm in a military unit i.e. 15TH Bat. PsyOps? (UK Military unit) or was you recruited straight into a civilian unit? say for instance one of the SS or DIA units?

Reason I ask is that a self confessed member of a psychological warfare unit (you) is posting an in depth and elaborate account of major ongoing life long contact with earth stopping implications.

Trouble is, I known many PsyOps and MilInt personell, and I wouldn't trust them to tell me the time of day without having another source to verify their answers with.

http://www.psywarrior.com/links.html
A link to show what naughtiness PsyOps people get up to.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/aroffjobs/blpsy.htm

US Military qualifications needed to join a psyOps unit (Officer).

http://www.army.mod.uk/intelligence/units/default.aspx

UK Units from the Military (and you would be able to provide a basic training passing out certificate at the very least if it was military - or your inside cover of your little red book.

Oh and if your DTIO - GFY.

[Egg]

http://www.psywar.org/psywar/reproductions/15POG_Annual_Report_2008.pdf

If Barry King is PsyOps as he states he is, please read this document. It defines what PsyOps is, its aims, and the desired results. I will have no truck with people from the PsyOps world, as who can ever trust what they say? of course you cannot - for all we know, this whole thread could of been one great mind game from an admitted professional psyops operator from the very beggining, or even a group of them taking it in turns to drip, drip, drip the feed to a captive audience.

Question is then, what are they trying to persuade you about or deflect your attention or loyalties away from? after all, that is the job of a psyops unit.To change the way you think.

[Egg]

Egg:

You mean TPTs using TAA.....middle A being Avalon?

Just incase people don't know - TAA is target audience analysis / Analyst, and TPT is short hand for Information Disseminator.

In short Kathleen is asking if peoples unknown are feeding Avalon 'drip drip drip' and sitting back and watching the results.

[Antaletriangle]

I am half way through 'Alien Interview' which is the apparent transcripts of a US army nurse called Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy who telepathically interviewed a grey that survived the Roswell crash. She released the info just before her death feling that humanity shoudl know the truth. You can read it here - http://www.theparacast.com/alieninterview/AlienInterview.pdf

It presents some quite disturbing info and basically says that Earth is a 'prison planet' where rebellious, criminal or alternative/artistic souls who are rejected by their often totalitarian ET societies are sent and trapped in an eternal cycle of re-incarnation onto Earth. The souls get trapped by a planetary forcefield that catches them when they die and they are given massive electric shocks to erase their memeories of previous lifetimes and re-incarnated into Earth bodies. Any thoughts?

Rory,the alien interview was posted on here about 6 weeks or so ago,i read all of it and is very interesting and confusing in alot of ways from what i had come to learn about even the basics of alien interventions here and when we die etc.Have a look at the comments on this thread:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11323&highlight=roswell+nurse

[THEWATCHER]

http://www.psywar.org/psywar/reproductions/15POG_Annual_Report_2008.pdf

If Barry King is PsyOps as he states he is, please read this document. It defines what PsyOps is, its aims, and the desired results. I will have no truck with people from the PsyOps world, as who can ever trust what they say? of course you cannot - for all we know, this whole thread could of been one great mind game from an admitted professional psyops operator from the very beggining, or even a group of them taking it in turns to drip, drip, drip the feed to a captive audience.

Question is then, what are they trying to persuade you about or deflect your attention or loyalties away from? after all, that is the job of a psyops unit.To change the way you think.


I see, fair enough, I shall be responding to this later today, the public never fail to amaze me!!


THE WATCHER

[Egg]

The Ministry of Defence defines psy-ops simply as a way of getting "the enemy, or other target audience, to think and act in a way which will be to our advantage".

So thats what the MoD in the Uk think about psyops.

Wikipedia?

Psychological Operations (PSYOP, PSYOPS) are techniques used by military and police forces to influence a target audience's value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, and behavior. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals, and are used in order to induce confessions, or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator's objectives. These are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics

Look at those words. Values, beliefs, reasoning, motives, behaviour. Now why would psyops be interested in spending alot of time trying to change the way people think here on Avalon? its a no brainer really - steer them away from what they thought and believed (and was probably closer to the truth than the psyops babble) and mold them into a picture that the psyops team wanted them to replace their old beliefs with.

In short, psyops want to change the way you think because they don't like your current behaviour and beliefs and want you to believe what they say you should believe.

This disturbs me for many reasons, because in my opinion I can now look at this entire thread and throw it in the trash bin. It is now to me absolutely worthless in its entirety as I now know for fact thats its written by a self confessed psychological warfare specialist - convenient really that he was a security guard too - or was that another psychological warfare distraction?

Oh these Avalon waters are murky indeed. I wonder if all the other web pages and book authors knew / know about the watchers self confessed workings in the arena of psychological warfare?

[Egg]

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.

:nono:

The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

[THEWATCHER]

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.

:nono:

The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

Egg, perhaps you are jumping to conclusions, jumping the gun. Believe or disbelieve all I have written, your choice. I believe I am the only one here within the insiders camp that has bothered to give you a fully checkable, fully verifiable history of my life. Duncan O has not, Dan B has not. Do you throw out all and any info a sympathetic NSA or CIA, indeed MoD employee might risk and come forwards with?. Perhaps the Psy-Ops were more to do with actual Military operations rather than civilian operations? If this were the case as you see things, I would have had to begin this particular Psy-Op back in Feb of 1994, logically a wee bit too long timeframe, 15 years and still trying to influence the public? Influence to what end? As stated above, please take it or leave it, I'm not going to try and convince anyone of anything. Some people know me much better than you, since 2005, perhaps you should get a handle from them on what has transpired in these last 4 years. I can put you in touch with some, one of which actually has a membership here at Avalon. Have a good day egg.:original:

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

15 years is a long time? The soviet Union, Communist China and the United States of America and the United Kingdom have ran psyops running into decades.

The 'Cold war' for instance. 1947 - 1989. A 42 year psyop to convince us that we face a mortal peril from the 'Red Menace' behind the iron curtain. We never did - the Soviets never had a first strike mentality - they were to use the buffer incase of future German / NATO aggression.

Now thats in human time frames. Lets have a look at non-human time frames.

14 years is a drop in the bucket - I have on my hard drive an attempted alien abduction involving a ball with spiked legs trying to abduct a man in an orchard. Ground marking were found, castes taken, and the mans character was beyond reproach. This was in the 1880s. Also note the airships of the 1800s which race around years before there were such things.

Look back to the 1400s and earlier. Look at aborigional cave art. Your handlers 14 years of murky swilling is nothing, nothing at all compared to the scope of what we face. In there I think I have the begginings of an understanding as to what your possible role may be. I am not saying either way yet, I have to run some names and freedom of information requests first, and then I will be back.

[THEWATCHER]

I shall be most interested in continuing this with you, even if its just to show you I am a genuine individual trying to open the eyes of the general public, just some are more blinkered than others and some have deep set preconceived notions!!

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

I will not deny we live in a very blinkered civilisation - the problem is that the governments have run a generational psyop against us to keep us from seeing even a chink of light.

Hence my distrust of any one from a psyop unit past or present, blue or green badger.

[Deb]

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.

:nono:

The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

Get a grip, your acting like a paranoid jack$@$@. Barry is clearly stating information to share, while warning that psyops exists. Did he ever state that he was here to detour you from the truth? You are making claims that you have absolutely no proof of.

[Deb]

I will not deny we live in a very blinkered civilisation - the problem is that the governments have run a generational psyop against us to keep us from seeing even a chink of light.

Hence my distrust of any one from a psyop unit past or present, blue or green badger.

Do you have personal experience from dealing with a individual within psyops that you wish to share?

[Egg]

Get a grip, your acting like a paranoid jack$@$@. Barry is clearly stating information to share, while warning that psyops exists. Did he ever state that he was here to detour you from the truth? You are making claims that you have absolutely no proof of.

Firstly, Barry admitted he was and still contracts for psyops. Psyops don't state anything, they subtly bend you around to their way of thinking by hook or by crook.

Secondly, you say I am paranoid - no, not paranoid at all to wonder why on earth a psyops operative / contractor would be here.

Thirdly, Mr King has been civil, and I respect that. I have my views, he has his. I stated mine and he stated his. We know where we stand with each other, and at the end of the day, I only have suspicions not proven facts.

[Egg]

Do you have personal experience from dealing with a individual within psyops that you wish to share?

I know how they are recruited, who they answer to, what orbat they float in, where they train, what their mission is, and have met a few as the travelled in our less than rarified air they are used to.

I wouldn't trust a psyops operative to tell me the time correctly unless I had a second person to back up what they said independently. Very 'pliable' with words are these ladies and gentlemen, and if it was in their interest to tell you the wrong time, they would.

[Deb]

Firstly, Barry admitted he was and still contracts for psyops. Psyops don't state anything, they subtly bend you around to their way of thinking by hook or by crook.

Secondly, you say I am paranoid - no, not paranoid at all to wonder why on earth a psyops operative / contractor would be here.

Thirdly, Mr King has been civil, and I respect that. I have my views, he has his. I stated mine and he stated his. We know where we stand with each other, and at the end of the day, I only have suspicions not proven facts.

I have know Barry King first off for quiet a few years and I'm not part of PSYOPS, so lets get that clear first off. Barry's intention of being at this forum is not to detour anyone from the truth or give false information. The information he is offering comes from a history of events that have occurred during his life. How you interpret that is up to you. Everyone has a choice in what they believe or not. Does PSYOPS exist, of course, do you wish to find out more, I would assume you would and that maybe your own way of using a tactic of getting Barry to express or explain more. A tacticle way of presenting oneself to gain information, right?

[Deb]

I know how they are recruited, who they answer to, what orbat they float in, where they train, what their mission is, and have met a few as the travelled in our less than rarified air they are used to.

I wouldn't trust a psyops operative to tell me the time correctly unless I had a second person to back up what they said independently. Very 'pliable' with words are these ladies and gentlemen, and if it was in their interest to tell you the wrong time, they would.

I'm not saying I would either, but there are different circumstances here, there seems to be already a label placed on the forehead according to what you have read on the internet or in books.

[Egg]

I'm not saying I would either, but there are different circumstances here, there seems to be already a label placed on the forehead according to what you have read on the internet or in books.

Read on the internet? in books? lol you for sure didn't read what I posted then. Never mind.

The circumstances are no different to any other possible psyop. There is the bait, the catch and the reeling in and capture. Its simple - they want to start slowly, draw you in, and by the capture have changed your way of thinking to what they want it to be.

Now, I am not stating this is whats going on, but all and every one of my inner alarm bells rings when a self confessed psyops operative starts writing on a forum for alternate views, when almost every one knows what the government thinks of sites like this.

[Deb]

Read on the internet? in books? lol you for sure didn't read what I posted then. Never mind.

The circumstances are no different to any other possible psyop. There is the bait, the catch and the reeling in and capture. Its simple - they want to start slowly, draw you in, and by the capture have changed your way of thinking to what they want it to be.

Now, I am not stating this is whats going on, but all and every one of my inner alarm bells rings when a self confessed psyops operative starts writing on a forum for alternate views, when almost every one knows what the government thinks of sites like this.

But this is exactly what you are stating my dear :)
If you truly believe what you are saying then I would hope that you go more on your gut feeling and do some more research. What the gut say's is one thing, what Knowledge and trust is.....is another....

[Egg]

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.

:nono:

The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

I stand by what I wrote. It would be amazing to ask abductees 'would you of talked to mr King had you know he was a psychological warfare operative' and find out their answers.

I know what my answer would of been. The odds on an operative amongst UFO researchers was low because its a great place to have them - but still there is that haunting nagging 'what if'.

Thats what I don't like - after all this time he states he is psyops - so why should I or any one else trust / believe him?

[Ara]

I stand by what I wrote. It would be amazing to ask abductees 'would you of talked to mr King had you know he was a psychological warfare operative' and find out their answers.

I know what my answer would of been. The odds on an operative amongst UFO researchers was low because its a great place to have them - but still there is that haunting nagging 'what if'.

Thats what I don't like - after all this time he states he is psyops - so why should I or any one else trust / believe him?

Egg, I have recently shared some very personal information with Barry. I chose to share this with Barry after getting to know him as a person and sensing he is as genuine as he appears. I also shared my experiences with Barry knowing he has been connected (& possibly still is) to Psi-Ops. Did that worry me then? No. Does it worry me now? No. Why not you may ask? Because of his integrity. It was my misunderstanding (in a previous post) that Barry had never participated within a psi-operation which facilitated Barry in clearing this incorrect assumption publicly.

Is it possible that coming clean with his experiences could sway the public's thinking or understanding of the reality of Off World Intelligences, Yes. In this case, within the defined parameters you have shared above, all revealings can be construed to be a psi-op to a degree.

Acclimatization=psi ops.

It's obvious from your posts Egg you've been mind-fracked and are pi**ed off with those who perpetrated this upon your mind, and fair enough. No one likes to have their mind messed with.:lightsabre:

I hope you read through (if you haven't done so already) all of this thread and see/feel the genuine person behind these revealings.


All the Best to you Egg,

Ara

[Deb]

I stand by what I wrote. It would be amazing to ask abductees 'would you of talked to mr King had you know he was a psychological warfare operative' and find out their answers.

I know what my answer would of been. The odds on an operative amongst UFO researchers was low because its a great place to have them - but still there is that haunting nagging 'what if'.

Thats what I don't like - after all this time he states he is psyops - so why should I or any one else trust / believe him?

In actual fact, yes there is a good friend of mine and Barry who is an abductee. Of course she had her questions in the beginning but I will tell you there was never a thought in her mind that he was not genuine and a true friend. Myself, I fell into UFO research due to a sighting I had many years back. Barry has helped me along the way with direction or any questions I have had in relation to my experience. If I feel there is an area to question I do not hesitate to ask or have my own opinions on certain areas as well.

[THEWATCHER]

It was not my intention to disrupt this forum in any way, play any psychological games or lead people down the wrong path. I came here to assist, help, in any way I can plus more selfish reasons, continuing to disclose data about my past which I feel should not be kept hidden. I have always stood by truth, Justice and freedom. I fight for those ideals and will if necessary, die in order to maintain those. I cannot blame anyone for having thoughts about my past, I cannot help that but fully understand others. If anyone feels threatened by me being here please say and this all ends here and now. I can continue only if my being here does not disrupt and causes concerns.


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

It was not my intention to disrupt this forum in any way, play any psychological games or lead people down the wrong path. I came here to assist, help, in any way I can plus more selfish reasons, continuing to disclose data about my past which I feel should not be kept hidden. I have always stood by truth, Justice and freedom. I fight for those ideals and will if necessary, die in order to maintain those. I cannot blame anyone for having thoughts about my past, I cannot help that but fully understand others. If anyone feels threatened by me being here please say and this all ends here and now. I can continue only if my being here does not disrupt and causes concerns.


THE WATCHER

You do not threaten or offend me in anyway, shape or form Barry, so please stay.

Sadly there may be those who feel threatened by you, for what ever reason. One cannot please all of the people all of the time Barry. The complex mind-games played upon the people does not afford this.
:sad:

As they say, 'Choice is always an option' so if one feels threatened within an environment maybe it is prudent to refrain from visiting that environment? Maybe discretion is the better part of Valor? :flowers2:

All the Best
Ara

[Antaletriangle]

Chill ite everyone- enough whistleblowers have either left or rarely contribute to this site,unlike you- no-one wishes you leaving Bazzer-no-one is threatened by you as i'm aware meducks. I don't reply very often to your thread but i have a look now and again and find information interesting;it feels the site is more enriched by having you here.So don't take any off handed remarks to heart mate-we all endure off days from time to time.

[Antaletriangle]

Barry i haven't forgotten the videos you sent me and a few others a few months back free of charge-that was very gracious of you mate, cheers.