Questions for THEWATCHER

[Ara]

You are not a monkey, but our common human ancestry crossbread with animals since when they started to eat them.
First human beings eat only vegetable...

Ask who were these 'first human beings' ?

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But since they 've started to consume other entities, they've accepted all of their biological information in their blood, therefor you can find their various traces right there.
Later on, some 've also mated with those animals, for sacrificial reasons so to say and created human-animal hybrids.
The Rh monkey protein and many others comes right from there.

There were also other, more advanced , intelligent species and beings creating offsprings here and helping this civilisation from inside.

Man is the most responsible for his own mistakes here,

but then again, ask , who is the first man, who is the real you , biological you , the dominant identity. Those who know already, they don't have to ask :naughty:

Very interesting Agape. I've heard there are certain sentient Beings who eat living/vital flesh who have inserted some of their own genetic material into humanoid prototypes and other populations.

This sparks my mind towards chimeric hybridization. I've read that when combining different animal species addition genetic material is added to prevent 'rejection'. The added genetic material would come from a species with an extraordinarily robust immune system, like a bat or a reptile.

The J-Rods , according to Dan Burisch's testimonies, produced anti-freeze proteins. He also spoke of how they had reptilian-like features. It would seem trans-genics, hybridization and genetic engineering was generationally employed, culminating in a 'J-Rod population'. That population was/is reportedly experiencing severe degenerative diseases.:sad:

Let us hope all the 'genetic glitches' have been worked out in the hybrids of today and tomorrow. :original:

All the Best
Ara

[Ara]

Hello Ara, ah yes, The Watcher stated more than once of someone here whom was very astute, very much on the ball, we take it as being you.:original: Exactly so Ara, exactly so. There have been occasions when situations have arisen whereby Psy-Ops have faced off troops from more than one nation in the recovery of downed craft and the retrieval that followed of data.

Thank you. It is nice to dialog with you. Please pass on my respects, best wishes and regards to Barry. :original:

Psychic shields and psychic nets come to mind when reading your reply.
As the shields &/or blocks of one Nation get stronger, other Nations have to come up with stronger minds to create stronger shields and break through the others' blocks?

Hmm, logically, each Nation constantly works towards creating stronger psy-abilities in their troops. This is where OPI lend a helping hand? :original:

It would seem there are aspects to Psy-Operations which are more important and necessary than the much publicized mind-control/programming aspects. Although I am sure those aspects can cross over into the scenario stated above also.:original: "This is not the droid you are looking for" LOL

I imagine OPI have their own black/hidden ops people helping in these situations too.

For the readers here, Steve Quayle reported about a group of black-op psi-warriors. Apparently they had to use their psi-abilities to shield their minds from something which attempted to overload their synapses. Reportedly it tried to fry them but failed.

All the Best
Ara

[iainl140285]

In the UK should public disorder occur on a nationwide scale the UK government could, could, implement 'Warden', a system of controls very much like the US Martial Law controls. This is deemed unlikely but perhaps it is good to know such systems are readied, just in case.

This would be one of the national incidents I was refering to - and you have indeed warned us. :thumb_yello: Qudos

I was wondering though, as soon as I read the sentence, does the UK actually have the resources to implement and control the population?

Mind you, ramp up the fear high enough and this wont be an issue. People can be controlled easier this way. :wall:

[Agape]

We freely speak of many things, as we expect all others here to speak freely

Well, thanks. To keep with the ET Disclosure standards i'm still feeling safer to be hiding.
I was sitting at fountain today watching the water parade and a thought occured to me in all its complexity, pertaining to the research programs you refer .
My family has some medical backgrounds , we have lots of friends involved in long term studies on human biology/pathology,
and the difference between mainstream research and programs you refer to is obvious.
Still, most of science oriented folks are rather reserved and hard working individuals who do not enjoy making big claims. I suppose that's the case of ultra top secret researchers as well.

I find a bit frustrating that there're so many exaggerrated statements posted on their behalf all over the net, describing fascinating projects and proposals that did not occur in reality, or have been experimented on scarcely in extreme conditions , observed under those rare conditions that can not stand common case classification.

I'd be extremely interested if you could bring one of those individuals here,
who'd be honest and kind enough to divide grain from husks,
and give things right measure . I do not expect any detail explanations could be invested to here yet there's a lot that could be improved in common folks understanding, if that's where your interests are placed.

It'd save folks time, fears and fascinations..

I suspect there are also those whome you call OPI who would wish to rectify undue claims made about them here and elsewhere ?


Now..calculate the difficulty in answer to question number one plus difficulty involved in answer number two and the probability of accuracy quotient between ETI and Military Scientists will shine through clearly ..

Can you improve anything in this sense..?

:original:

[Agape]

Very interesting Agape. I've heard there are certain sentient Beings who eat living/vital flesh who have inserted some of their own genetic material into humanoid prototypes and other populations.

This sparks my mind towards chimeric hybridization. I've read that when combining different animal species addition genetic material is added to prevent 'rejection'. The added genetic material would come from a species with an extraordinarily robust immune system, like a bat or a reptile.

The J-Rods , according to Dan Burisch's testimonies, produced anti-freeze proteins. He also spoke of how they had reptilian-like features. It would seem trans-genics, hybridization and genetic engineering was generationally employed, culminating in a 'J-Rod population'. That population was/is reportedly experiencing severe degenerative diseases.:sad:

Let us hope all the 'genetic glitches' have been worked out in the hybrids of today and tomorrow. :original:

All the Best
Ara

Hi Ara , your notice here summons it pretty well, question and answer to it are both contained within.

Hybridisation experiments more often result in degenerative processes, not necessarily in first and second generations , can be much later but the end to every hybrid species of intelligent organisms is inevitable,
they often serve as temporary support to civilisation in crisis,
may help to preserve its fundamental biological heritage so it may live long enough to see the dawn of new age .
Todays science seems to be yet very confused about origins of life and species. Uniqueness of each species intelligent pattern is something that may not be created or reproduced freely , it was once emanated to be perfect , flexible yet stable and protected against mutation.

All intrusions to it however careful may be a cause of destroying the 'sanctum sanctorum' of our seed information, be it animal or other beings pollutants.

Say there are civilisations in universe, highly evolved, who posses more knowledge than we 're able to understand yet, and they're still very cautious with creating what we call hybrids.

With reference to their knowledge and how it could be testified, if it was offered to human beings ..most possibly it couldn't .
Us trying to copy their technologies of any kind reminds me of aboriginee wooden model of airplane. Say the difference might be too vast to comprehend really ?
So do we have other choice than to be guided by them ?

:original:

[Alterego]

Watchers, you've spent so much time answering all questions sent your way. My question to you is, is there anything we can do to help you with your disclosure?

[Ara]

Hi Ara , your notice here summons it pretty well, question and answer to it are both contained within.

***Thank you Agape.:original:

Hybridisation experiments more often result in degenerative processes, not necessarily in first and second generations , can be much later but the end to every hybrid species of intelligent organisms is inevitable,
they often serve as temporary support to civilisation in crisis,
may help to preserve its fundamental biological heritage so it may live long enough to see the dawn of new age .

***Yes I agree hybrids can serve as temporary support to populations in crisis.

This reminds me of car models, you know how a car model (mark 1 model) can be a basic model with a certain type of engine in it but when the makers of that car want to create (or have to create) a new car model to accommodate a new engine with added grunt they will create a next gen model of that basic car which is equivalent to a Mark 1 and half. It's not a Mark 2 model yet however this bridging model can house the newer type engine with access to some additional built in features until the new Mark 2 model has all the bugs are ironed out and is completely ready to house the new engine with access to all the additional 'extras' the new model is equipped with.


Todays science seems to be yet very confused about origins of life and species.

***That is because the focus is on physical DNA only. Maybe one day they will have the technology to 'scan/read' one's spiritual DNA and from there a greater understanding may ensue.

Uniqueness of each species intelligent pattern is something that may not be created or reproduced freely , it was once emanated to be perfect , flexible yet stable and protected against mutation.

***Agape are you referring the the parameters of the human soul-mind experience?

All intrusions to it however careful may be a cause of destroying the 'sanctum sanctorum' of our seed information, be it animal or other beings pollutants.

Say there are civilisations in universe, highly evolved, who posses more knowledge than we 're able to understand yet, and they're still very cautious with creating what we call hybrids.

***Maybe their caution stems from their understanding of the joined resonance between physical and spiritual DNA?

With reference to their knowledge and how it could be testified, if it was offered to human beings ..most possibly it couldn't .

***I understand what you are saying here Agape. Maybe the answer is the OPI working in conjunction with the Humans, just as Barry has testified is happening.

Us trying to copy their technologies of any kind reminds me of aboriginee wooden model of airplane. Say the difference might be too vast to comprehend really ?

***Indeed.

So do we have other choice than to be guided by them ?

***Not unless the OPI are willing to teach the humans how to understand the technology and more importantly help them to evolve/grow ethically/conscience to see what can be created from such knowledge. And the future implications of such.

:original:

It's nice dialoging with you Agape.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[Agape]

Hi Ara , you're most welcome

This reminds me of car models, you know how a car model (mark 1 model) can be a basic model with a certain type of engine in it but when the makers of that car want to create (or have to create) a new car model to accommodate a new engine with added grunt they will create a next gen model of that basic car which is equivalent to a Mark 1 and half. It's not a Mark 2 model yet however this bridging model can house the newer type engine with access to some additional built in features until the new Mark 2 model has all the bugs are ironed out and is completely ready to house the new engine with access to all the additional 'extras' the new model is equipped with.

Still to compare car construction to genetics is rather far fetched from ET point of view, listen to all the giggles in my back :lol3:


That is because the focus is on physical DNA only. Maybe one day they will have the technology to 'scan/read' one's spiritual DNA and from there a greater understanding may ensue.

There's no basic 'difference' between the two. There's no difference between your 'common' and 'spiritual' intelligence , and the one you call spiritual can't be ever measured human way, when we reach up to that point, the need to measure it ceases. I prefer naming it biological intelligence, intelligent design, if you want.
I'll explain it to you one day..but imagine that all the little strands of free floating genoms in your body would join each other and form more specific structure as they do already,
but not yet the wholeness way and it won't happen for a while yet..

80 million tiny little meridians running through our body, energy, Chi, running within, energy=mind, does it ring a bell with you, the energy is intelligent information, like a big puzzle..
Nature of life is to evolve to perfection and it will do without artificial interaction to it as well.
Beings here are born with natural abilities and perfection levels, no matter what lineage do they belong.



Uniqueness of each species intelligent pattern is something that may not be created or reproduced freely , it was once emanated to be perfect , flexible yet stable and protected against mutation.

***Agape are you referring the the parameters of the human soul-mind experience?

Not exactly.

All intrusions to it however careful may be a cause of destroying the 'sanctum sanctorum' of our seed information, be it animal or other beings pollutants.

Say there are civilisations in universe, highly evolved, who posses more knowledge than we 're able to understand yet, and they're still very cautious with creating what we call hybrids.

***Maybe their caution stems from their understanding of the joined resonance between physical and spiritual DNA?

There's only one such a thing as psycho-biological information complex, and till it lasts it always depends what are you feeding to it. It means, they have thousand million times higher precision levels in what we may not understand yet.
Look at flock of birds and pick up the correct one..

With reference to their knowledge and how it could be testified, if it was offered to human beings ..most possibly it couldn't .

***I understand what you are saying here Agape. Maybe the answer is the OPI working in conjunction with the Humans, just as Barry has testified is happening.

I don't think that conjunction is how you'd call it really if you look more inside . :smoke:



So do we have other choice than to be guided by them ?

***Not unless the OPI are willing to teach the humans how to understand the technology and more importantly help them to evolve/grow ethically/conscience to see what can be created from such knowledge. And the future implications of such.

I can only agree there.

My pleasure :cup:

[Ara]

Hi Ara , you're most welcome

This reminds me of car models, you know how a car model (mark 1 model) can be a basic model with a certain type of engine in it but when the makers of that car want to create (or have to create) a new car model to accommodate a new engine with added grunt they will create a next gen model of that basic car which is equivalent to a Mark 1 and half. It's not a Mark 2 model yet however this bridging model can house the newer type engine with access to some additional built in features until the new Mark 2 model has all the bugs are ironed out and is completely ready to house the new engine with access to all the additional 'extras' the new model is equipped with.

Still to compare car construction to genetics is rather far fetched from ET point of view, listen to all the giggles in my back :lol3:

*** :original: Sometimes the words need to be written for young minds to understand basic ideas/principles. As for "ET point of view" I would never claim to speak for all OPI. :original:

That is because the focus is on physical DNA only. Maybe one day they will have the technology to 'scan/read' one's spiritual DNA and from there a greater understanding may ensue.

There's no basic 'difference' between the two.

*** If you think this then my statement about scientists not having full understanding is correct.

There's no difference between your 'common' and 'spiritual' intelligence , and the one you call spiritual can't be ever measured human way, when we reach up to that point, the need to measure it ceases. I prefer naming it biological intelligence, intelligent design, if you want.

*** All energies must be built upon a foundation energy.
Curious, do you understand layers of energies to genetic material Agape? Some physical genes have more layers to them than others, when combined they allow access for energy to flow from the spiritual DNA to the physical DNA activating certain abilities attached to such. Abilities can be switched on and off depending upon which genetic sequences are holding the correct level of energies.


I'll explain it to you one day..but imagine that all the little strands of free floating genoms in your body would join each other and form more specific structure as they do already,
but not yet the wholeness way and it won't happen for a while yet..

80 million tiny little meridians running through our body, energy, Chi, running within, energy=mind, does it ring a bell with you, the energy is intelligent information, like a big puzzle..

Nature of life is to evolve to perfection and it will do without artificial interaction to it as well.

***I agree with you.

Beings here are born with natural abilities and perfection levels, no matter what lineage do they belong.

Uniqueness of each species intelligent pattern is something that may not be created or reproduced freely , it was once emanated to be perfect , flexible yet stable and protected against mutation.

***Agape are you referring the the parameters of the human soul-mind experience?

Not exactly.

***Yet different 'intelligences' are incarnating into the human soul-mind experience and in doing so expanding the parameters or as you refer to it the 'species intelligent pattern'. It is not a mutation but an expansion, ultimately resulting in the addition of energy layers to genetic material. Sometimes however the additional material can shave energy off instead of adding to it so I understand where your concern below fits in.

All intrusions to it however careful may be a cause of destroying the 'sanctum sanctorum' of our seed information, be it animal or other beings pollutants.

***I can see where you are coming from and where your thought pattern lays. Ok. I agree with you, humans can evolve naturally physically and intelligently eventually and should be allowed to do so. However from times past Earth humans have not been left to follow this path.

Say there are civilisations in universe, highly evolved, who posses more knowledge than we 're able to understand yet, and they're still very cautious with creating what we call hybrids.

***Maybe their caution stems from their understanding of the joined resonance between physical and spiritual DNA?

There's only one such a thing as psycho-biological information complex, and till it lasts it always depends what are you feeding to it. It means, they have thousand million times higher precision levels in what we may not understand yet.
Look at flock of birds and pick up the correct one..

With reference to their knowledge and how it could be testified, if it was offered to human beings ..most possibly it couldn't .

***I understand what you are saying here Agape. Maybe the answer is the OPI working in conjunction with the Humans, just as Barry has testified is happening.

I don't think that conjunction is how you'd call it really if you look more inside . :smoke:

***Well that depends on the agendas of the OPI working in the hybrid projects.:original: I tend to look at it from the viewpoint of an OPI with a positive vested interest in helping not harming.

So do we have other choice than to be guided by them ?

***Not unless the OPI are willing to teach the humans how to understand the technology and more importantly help them to evolve/grow ethically/conscience to see what can be created from such knowledge. And the future implications of such.

I can only agree there.

My pleasure :cup:

All the Best
Ara

[iainl140285]

Agape - 80 million tiny little meridians running through our body, energy, Chi, running within, energy=mind, does it ring a bell with you, the energy is intelligent information, like a big puzzle..

Such a coincidence you have used the words meridians running through the body. There is another thread over at Avalon discussing the same thing but on a planetary scale.

Does the Earth have similar processes as you have described above to the human body? Not only does the earth have its own meridien lines, the chi that flows along these lines are being utilised (just check out what buildings/complexes run along them) :thumb_yello:


Thanks
Best Regards
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Watchers, you've spent so much time answering all questions sent your way. My question to you is, is there anything we can do to help you with your disclosure?

Keep your minds active and open, question everything but do not become closed to any possibility

[Agape]

That is because the focus is on physical DNA only. Maybe one day they will have the technology to 'scan/read' one's spiritual DNA and from there a greater understanding may ensue.

Hi Ara, what do you mean exactly by 'spiritual DNA' if i can ask ? I'm not familiar with the term.
Do you think in categories of genetics, apogenetics and 'junk DNA' for example ?


If you think this then my statement about scientists not having full understanding is correct.

I do not think they even claim to have it, most sticking to one or another leading theory and persue their research in one tiny particular direction, if someone comes with totally new hypothesis he is in eternal trouble. Most do not dare to think much, we all were taught mostly to 'follow'..


All energies must be built upon a foundation energy.
Curious, do you understand layers of energies to genetic material Agape? Some physical genes have more layers to them than others, when combined they allow access for energy to flow from the spiritual DNA to the physical DNA activating certain abilities attached to such. Abilities can be switched on and off depending upon which genetic sequences are holding the correct level of energies.

Basically, lets say there are multitudes of possibilities you can decide upon with your granted set of DNA material, quite a lot. They are information reacting to other relevant information so that's approximately how the different sequencies become active and fulfill their function for you.
If you're supplied with correct environment and information then the responsive sequence starts functioning.
Yet, there's a dominant sequence unique for your individual bio system and it remains dominant whether you 'promote' the others or not.
You may achieve a lot while activating the different parts of your bio-code yet there is only one of them that can bring you 'to the top'.
Top means realizing the original of yourself, the rest are like a photocopies of others if it makes sense to you. The original intelligence in you is self-centered and self-fulfilled but destined to move others forwards, in vague terms.


Yet different 'intelligences' are incarnating into the human soul-mind experience and in doing so expanding the parameters or as you refer to it the 'species intelligent pattern'. It is not a mutation but an expansion, ultimately resulting in the addition of energy layers to genetic material. Sometimes however the additional material can shave energy off instead of adding to it so I understand where your concern below fits in.

They're not as much 'expanding it' as human bio-intelligence itself is in fact more complicated than theirs , but most of it is either dormant, scattered or 'unplugged' in present stage. By inserting piece of another biological information, with greater organisation levels, some improvements can be achieved .
There are three basic possibilities of what may or may not happen.
The foreign information may be rejected , that's what happens most.
If so it still provokes creation of numerous anti-bodies in attempt to disactivate the 'invader'.
These anti-bodies, part of our immunity system on larger scale may themselves generate lots of unknown potentials in us.
People with good immunity systems may paradoxically have very bad reaction to implants, that's where i guess the 'blue blood' lineages were used for e.t. experiements as their immunity levels are not so high.

The second option .. the donor information is partially 'befriended' by the host organism and either it attempts to take over the control mechanisms ( it has to , as nature of every living intelligence is to retain its autonomy, so it's not easy for it 'to give up' without fight ) , or at least of it's part.
Multiple scenarios to ensue, but basically there's always initial fight between the two and ceases after some time, when the 'rights and dominancies' have been decided and possibly, some part of sequencing has taken place.

The alien information will then form 'a bridge' between uncoded parts of human genome and allow it to take part in its organisation structure or vice versa.

The third is something that happens rarely and may result either in total crash or on the other hand, in real hybrid organism, with unique qualities of its own. Suppose this is interdimensional happening for humans ( necessarily as different star systems posses very different parameters of density, space-time velocity etc ) , these beings won't be able to survive here.


Say there are civilisations in universe, highly evolved, who posses more knowledge than we 're able to understand yet, and they're still very cautious with creating what we call hybrids.

***Maybe their caution stems from their understanding of the joined resonance between physical and spiritual DNA?

Most advanced civilisations have utmost respect for life, on higher level than we can imagine. The reasons behind their experiments are not clearly known but supposed to create ' a bridge' between us and them, not as much to create 'our future'.

Well that depends on the agendas of the OPI working in the hybrid projects. I tend to look at it from the viewpoint of an OPI with a positive vested interest in helping not harming.

Lets say only that, before any open exchange of information, open contact can be achieved, these research efforts are running on clandestine level from both sides, certain amount of information was released to the human domain , but the real situation is more than paradoxical.

There's too much lobby for information right now so not all can be answered either. :winksmiley02:


Nice talking to you Ara :cup:

[Agape]

Agape - 80 million tiny little meridians running through our body, energy, Chi, running within, energy=mind, does it ring a bell with you, the energy is intelligent information, like a big puzzle..

Such a coincidence you have used the words meridians running through the body. There is another thread over at Avalon discussing the same thing but on a planetary scale.

Does the Earth have similar processes as you have described above to the human body? Not only does the earth have its own meridien lines, the chi that flows along these lines are being utilised (just check out what buildings/complexes run along them) :thumb_yello:


Thanks
Best Regards
Iain

Similarity ? Living and non-living universe evolves utterly different ways, you may look at them as two parallel parts of existence , while only the existence itself forms superior category.
Non-living bodies, such as stars and planets etc, if granted enough time and favourable space-time circumstances in general, may also achieve high level of perfection, as crystaline structures, in broad terms.
They can achieve such a high level of organisation of matter and energy that they serve as very friendly base for various life forms and support their needs.
So in result, they'd be called 'intelligent' planes of existence,
it still does not mean they're alive.
So of course, there're meridians on earth too, but lets say earth is comparatively young planet ..

Thanks for question , take care :thumb_yello:

A

[THEWATCHER]

This would be one of the national incidents I was refering to - and you have indeed warned us. :thumb_yello: Qudos

I was wondering though, as soon as I read the sentence, does the UK actually have the resources to implement and control the population?

Let us hope so, when put to the test, for the welfare and safety of the nation in times of crisis

Mind you, ramp up the fear high enough and this wont be an issue. People can be controlled easier this way. :wall:

Unfortunately that is true

[THEWATCHER]

Thank you. It is nice to dialog with you. Please pass on my respects, best wishes and regards to Barry. :original:
We have done so and The Watcher smiled and returns big Hello and best wishes to you:original:

Psychic shields and psychic nets come to mind when reading your reply.
As the shields &/or blocks of one Nation get stronger, other Nations have to come up with stronger minds to create stronger shields and break through the others' blocks?
Hence the vigorous search then the training for suitable individuals

Hmm, logically, each Nation constantly works towards creating stronger psy-abilities in their troops. This is where OPI lend a helping hand? :original:
You are correct yes

It would seem there are aspects to Psy-Operations which are more important and necessary than the much publicized mind-control/programming aspects. Although I am sure those aspects can cross over into the scenario stated above also.:original: "This is not the droid you are looking for" LOL
Oh yes very much so, lol that line from Star Wars is very apt LOL

I imagine OPI have their own black/hidden ops people helping in these situations too.
For necessity yes

For the readers here, Steve Quayle reported about a group of black-op psi-warriors. Apparently they had to use their psi-abilities to shield their minds from something which attempted to overload their synapses. Reportedly it tried to fry them but failed.
And probably much more remains unspoken........:original:

All the Best
Ara

:original:

[THEWATCHER]

If joe public wanted to, could they request contact?
That has been the case for a very long time

Are you in a position to elaborate on this?

Thanks
OPI interaction with the human race requires a two way trust, more that can accept idea of other intelligences with a benign agenda visiting this planet and wishing to interact with them the closer full acceptance can occur and exchanging of ideas will result. OPI know whom is ready to accept them and seek out those wishing a form of contact:original:

[Alterego]

OPI interaction with the human race requires a two way trust, more that can accept idea of other intelligences with a benign agenda visiting this planet and wishing to interact with them the closer full acceptance can occur and exchanging of ideas will result. OPI know whom is ready to accept them and seek out those wishing a form of contact:original:

So does the possibility exist that we may inadvertantly be communicating directly or indirectly with OPI by putting forward our ideas and taking in new ways of thinking through the likes of this forum?

[THEWATCHER]

So does the possibility exist that we may inadvertantly be communicating directly or indirectly with OPI by putting forward our ideas and taking in new ways of thinking through the likes of this forum?


In short, yes

[She-Ra]

Hello Watchers :),

In TheWatcher's (Barry) absence would you consider continuing his interesting information in regards to 'the 5' and perhaps reply to the questions on page 35 that were not answered due to the interruption that followed?

Regards.

[Kari Lynn]

OPI interaction with the human race requires a two way trust, more that can accept idea of other intelligences with a benign agenda visiting this planet and wishing to interact with them the closer full acceptance can occur and exchanging of ideas will result. OPI know whom is ready to accept them and seek out those wishing a form of contact:original:
I think I'm about to break one of my own rules here. lol.

Usually, I seperate my spritual experiences from my paranormal experiences. I speak of some of my paranormal, but my spiritual experiences I usually keep to myself.
I used to think that I've never had experiences with ET's. Just military, from Milabs and such. But lately, I've been studying and am finding little loop holes. lol
I'm not sure exactly what is meant by OPI here. Is it a general term for benevolent Et's?

While searching my spirituality in my 20's. I have had contact/experiences with beings that at the time I would have called angels.
But in reading about these benevolent Et's, I'm finding some simularities.
I searched about the Tall Whites. Which I am not entirely sure that is the race/faction of beings I have seen, from what is described by Hall of the beings he met while on base in Nevada.
Though I'm still not sure, What I've read about the Nordics, may be somewhat simular.
Though not all of the beings I've seen have white hair. Some were dark blond, some were brown haired.
But all had qualities that I would relate to being heavenly angels. !. being the undescribable feeling of love that I felt emanating from them. 2. their patience and caring for everything they view, and have mastery over. 3. their mental abilities/psychic abilities. They've no need of weapons, just a thought would bring about destruction or miracles.

But anyway, my questions in a long round about way, would be. Is it possible that perhaps what we thought were religious experiences could actually have been ET experiences?

[Ara]

That is because the focus is on physical DNA only. Maybe one day they will have the technology to 'scan/read' one's spiritual DNA and from there a greater understanding may ensue.

Hi Ara, what do you mean exactly by 'spiritual DNA' if i can ask ? I'm not familiar with the term.
Do you think in categories of genetics, apogenetics and 'junk DNA' for example ?

***. The categories you have stated above are all within the scientific field of physical DNA. I think in terms of energy, types of energies, levels of energies, energy patterns, energy weaves, concordance, resonance.

Spiritual DNA is the underlying energetic blueprint which the physical DNA is built upon. There is a dance of resonance between the two, they work as one.

Imagine you are an OPI who is going to transfer/incarnate your energetic blueprint and intelligence into a human physical form. This can be achieved and the resonance is sound although the energetic blueprint will not be “human” it will bear a small percentage of human DNA in resonance.
In other words the person will scan as 100% pure human in physical DNA, yet their spiritual DNA can be different with varying percentages of activated OPI/ET Spiritual DNA combined with a percentage of human spiritual DNA active. It is this amount of “human” spiritual DNA which resonates with the human physical blueprint and xreates the physical human form.

Shaving of energies can equate to the eradication &/or mutation of certain physical genes.

When the energy isn’t there to activate them the physical genes remain dormant.

Sometimes the incarnating OPI brings in, within their own energy blueprint, the additional energies which certain genes require to become activated. This can sometimes take generations to complete, until a generation is born where the energies are all there in all the right places to complete the connections. This has been done throughout history to breed a certain type of human.

Agape what you term junk DNA I term as codings not yet utilized and when activated connect to one’s spiritual DNA & intelligences connected with.
My understanding is they are parts of Keys needed to access the doors behind human intelligence.

***Once spiritual DNA is properly understood and scientifically acknowledged then proof will be evident that the spiritual body is not expunged at death for any Being. It will also prove humans are far more than this physical coat worn, other lives have been lived (not always in this level human form) and those lives’ energy blueprints are accessible.

If you think this then my statement about scientists not having full understanding is correct.

I do not think they even claim to have it, most sticking to one or another leading theory and persue their research in one tiny particular direction, if someone comes with totally new hypothesis he is in eternal trouble. Most do not dare to think much, we all were taught mostly to 'follow'..

***Yet you are not a ‘follower’ Agape. Your curiosity in this area is apparent.


All energies must be built upon a foundation energy.
Curious, do you understand layers of energies to genetic material Agape? Some physical genes have more layers to them than others, when combined they allow access for energy to flow from the spiritual DNA to the physical DNA activating certain abilities attached to such. Abilities can be switched on and off depending upon which genetic sequences are holding the correct level of energies.

Basically, lets say there are multitudes of possibilities you can decide upon with your granted set of DNA material, quite a lot. They are information reacting to other relevant information so that's approximately how the different sequencies become active and fulfill their function for you.

***I understand what you are conveying here, now incorporate what I’ve written above into what you have just stated. :original:

If you're supplied with correct environment and information then the responsive sequence starts functioning.

***Yes I agree, however having certain sequences active and having the natural juice to access the energies woven may not coincide. I imagine this is where ‘external stimulants’ are used.

Hmm Agape, I think we are talking apples and oranges here. I sense you are referring more to physical material and the responsive actions of such, whereas I am referring to the connections/resonance between the spiritual and physical components and the access to what that implies.

Yet, there's a dominant sequence unique for your individual bio system and it remains dominant whether you 'promote' the others or not.

***Yes you will always be “human”.

You may achieve a lot while activating the different parts of your bio-code yet there is only one of them that can bring you 'to the top'.

Top means realizing the original of yourself, the rest are like a photocopies of others if it makes sense to you.

***The ‘original of yourself’, are you referring to the original human blueprint? In it’s ‘perfected form’? One’s human intelligence in it’s perfected form? Please bear with me as I try to understand and correlate here.

The original intelligence in you is self-centered and self-fulfilled but destined to move others forwards, in vague terms.

***I need to think more on this one Agape. :original:


Yet different 'intelligences' are incarnating into the human soul-mind experience and in doing so expanding the parameters or as you refer to it the 'species intelligent pattern'. It is not a mutation but an expansion, ultimately resulting in the addition of energy layers to genetic material. Sometimes however the additional material can shave energy off instead of adding to it so I understand where your concern below fits in.

They're not as much 'expanding it' as human bio-intelligence itself is in fact more complicated than theirs , but most of it is either dormant, scattered or 'unplugged' in present stage.

***Agape you seem to have a specific OPI in mind, so may I ask who ‘theirs’ is?

By inserting piece of another biological information, with greater organisation levels, some improvements can be achieved .

There are three basic possibilities of what may or may not happen.

The foreign information may be rejected , that's what happens most.

***Yes I’ve heard of one type of OPI in particular who cannot hybridize with the human genome. All experiments result in failure.

Another group just can’t seem to get the ‘skin’ on their experiments right. Results in hybrid concoctions with extremely dry, splitting skin. Must have a problem with copper ratio, can’t seem to get the collagen production right. You would know/understand more about this than I though Agape. :original:

If so it still provokes creation of numerous anti-bodies in attempt to disactivate the 'invader'.

These anti-bodies, part of our immunity system on larger scale may themselves generate lots of unknown potentials in us.

People with good immunity systems may paradoxically have very bad reaction to implants, that's where i guess the 'blue blood' lineages were used for e.t. experiements as their immunity levels are not so high.

***This is an interesting comment. Why do you think their immune levels are low? I ponder if there is a connection to their iron and copper levels, especially since those of certain lineages have a higher than normal connection to super-natural phenomenon and abilities.

The second option .. the donor information is partially 'befriended' by the host organism and either it attempts to take over the control mechanisms ( it has to , as nature of every living intelligence is to retain its autonomy, so it's not easy for it 'to give up' without fight ) , or at least of it's part.

***Indeed

Multiple scenarios to ensue, but basically there's always initial fight between the two and ceases after some time, when the 'rights and dominancies' have been decided and possibly, some part of sequencing has taken place.

The alien information will then form 'a bridge' between uncoded parts of human genome and allow it to take part in its organisation structure or vice versa.


***The material weaves it’s energies into the energy structure already there. This is connected to the comments I made about the energy levels of certain genes increasing, sometimes when certain genes or gene sequences hold too much energy in the physical the result is dis-ease. Same can be applied to the shaving of energies off genes through the cloning process.

The third is something that happens rarely and may result either in total crash or on the other hand, in real hybrid organism, with unique qualities of its own.

***I imagine in the latter comment that the spiritual DNA was in resonance with the physical DNA. If the foundation pattern isn’t available within the spiritual blueprint then there would be nothing to draw from and build upon.

***In essence what you are saying is that creating hybrids isn’t as easy as 1-2-3. One needs an amalgam something that bridges the species barrier so the receiving immune system doesn’t see the additional genetic material as an alien invader. Hence why bat or reptile genetic material is added to certain chimeric experiments.


Suppose this is interdimensional happening for humans ( necessarily as different star systems posses very different parameters of density, space-time velocity etc ) , these beings won't be able to survive here.

***And hence their need for the hybrids. They would need a physical form that conforms to(and is able to hold) their intelligence but also one that is acclimatized to the planet they plan on living on. Supra Human Beings.

Say there are civilisations in universe, highly evolved, who posses more knowledge than we 're able to understand yet, and they're still very cautious with creating what we call hybrids.

***Maybe their caution stems from their understanding of the joined resonance between physical and spiritual DNA?

Most advanced civilisations have utmost respect for life, on higher level than we can imagine.

***Absolutely agree there.

The reasons behind their experiments are not clearly known but supposed to create ' a bridge' between us and them, not as much to create 'our future'.

***I imagine the ‘bridges’ need to be created as conduits of communication between the upper and lower levels. I have heard there are many OPI of this level who are in communication with OPI in higher levels and through these communications Treaties are created and formalized. In an extended way, the ‘bridges’ are a necessity for the future of humanity. The right Treaties can help guard against other OPI who do not have Humanity's best interests at heart.

Well that depends on the agendas of the OPI working in the hybrid projects. I tend to look at it from the viewpoint of an OPI with a positive vested interest in helping not harming.

Lets say only that, before any open exchange of information, open contact can be achieved, these research efforts are running on clandestine level from both sides, certain amount of information was released to the human domain , but the real situation is more than paradoxical.

There's too much lobby for information right now so not all can be answered either.

***Thanks Agape, there are indeed many areas not able to be covered.
It is a pleasure dialoging with you.:original:

Nice talking to you Ara

[Ara]

Thank you to The Watchers for your replies. :flowers2:

All the Best
Ara

[Agape]

***. The categories you have stated above are all within the scientific field of physical DNA. I think in terms of energy, types of energies, levels of energies, energy patterns, energy weaves, concordance, resonance.

Spiritual DNA is the underlying energetic blueprint which the physical DNA is built upon. There is a dance of resonance between the two, they work as one.

Fine, then i think you may understand very well what i'd generally refer to as bio-intelligence pattern specific for each species or race of beings.
The 'pattern' i refer to and the 'blueprint' you talk about are virtually one and the same thing.
With the exception of linear causality between the 'spiritual' and 'physical', where in fact there 's no such difference except difference between the level of organisation and intelligence prevalent in each of those.

You may consider 'the physical' as broken and petrified remnants of the 'higher physical =spiritual' , a dense physical peel falling off the 'tree of life' .

Imagine you are an OPI who is going to transfer/incarnate your energetic blueprint and intelligence into a human physical form. This can be achieved and the resonance is sound although the energetic blueprint will not be “human” it will bear a small percentage of human DNA in resonance.
In other words the person will scan as 100% pure human in physical DNA, yet their spiritual DNA can be different with varying percentages of activated OPI/ET Spiritual DNA combined with a percentage of human spiritual DNA active. It is this amount of “human” spiritual DNA which resonates with the human physical blueprint and xreates the physical human form.

This is sound explanation Ara, the only little error i can perceive here is , that what in fact looks exceedingly 'spiritual' from human point of view, is also simply technical process from the ET side.



Shaving of energies can equate to the eradication &/or mutation of certain physical genes.

When the energy isn’t there to activate them the physical genes remain dormant.

Most will remain inactive in either case, as i was attempting to explain earlier, the whole process of human evolution can't be repaired instantly.

Sometimes the incarnating OPI brings in, within their own energy blueprint, the additional energies which certain genes require to become activated. This can sometimes take generations to complete, until a generation is born where the energies are all there in all the right places to complete the connections. This has been done throughout history to breed a certain type of human.

I think that's about correct, even without OPI interactions , what's called evolution ( use another suitable term of your preference ) , intelligent organisms patterns are spread not only beyond one particular life time but also beyond generations ..so in that sense bio-codes , bio-intelligence continously works on itself on backgrounds of existence of whole human species.
It does so naturally, you may say as a computer set to reprogram itself to the best possible software environment , the 'pattern' works itself out through all human incarnations and their genotypes ( the same vaguely applies for other intelligent races of beings too ).



Agape what you term junk DNA I term as codings not yet utilized and when activated connect to one’s spiritual DNA & intelligences connected with.
My understanding is they are parts of Keys needed to access the doors behind human intelligence.

I am trying to resonate with the terms workable at this time-period to explain things, i think that if i've tried to explain how do i see the same thing in reality, there'd be large confusion of terminology :original:


***Once spiritual DNA is properly understood and scientifically acknowledged then proof will be evident that the spiritual body is not expunged at death for any Being. It will also prove humans are far more than this physical coat worn, other lives have been lived (not always in this level human form) and those lives’ energy blueprints are accessible.

It may take very long time yet ..


***Yet you are not a ‘follower’ Agape. Your curiosity in this area is apparent.

No i am not a follower. My curiosity is purely concerned with how to correlate my own knowledge with the general stream so i can be useful to others.



If you're supplied with correct environment and information then the responsive sequence starts functioning.

***Yes I agree, however having certain sequences active and having the natural juice to access the energies woven may not coincide. I imagine this is where ‘external stimulants’ are used.

That's what is meant by environment, the right biostasis, for each type of organism, to function the best. Extremely important factor and part of research.

Hmm Agape, I think we are talking apples and oranges here. I sense you are referring more to physical material and the responsive actions of such, whereas I am referring to the connections/resonance between the spiritual and physical components and the access to what that implies.

I think this is multilevel debate considering we are def cross-breeding the 'human' and 'ET' view here , to cut it neatly,
and we are basically at the stage of establishing common points of understanding .


***Yes you will always be “human”.

Me probably not , but my human life will .



***The ‘original of yourself’, are you referring to the original human blueprint? In it’s ‘perfected form’? One’s human intelligence in it’s perfected form? Please bear with me as I try to understand and correlate here.

It feels complicate explaining it to you, as you are dwelling on terms and ideas known to you already.
In those terms you are correct , but allow yourself a space for incorporating some new ideas is my humble advice here..





Yet different 'intelligences' are incarnating into the human soul-mind experience and in doing so expanding the parameters or as you refer to it the 'species intelligent pattern'. It is not a mutation but an expansion, ultimately resulting in the addition of energy layers to genetic material. Sometimes however the additional material can shave energy off instead of adding to it so I understand where your concern below fits in.

They're not as much 'expanding it' as human bio-intelligence itself is in fact more complicated than theirs , but most of it is either dormant, scattered or 'unplugged' in present stage.

***Agape you seem to have a specific OPI in mind, so may I ask who ‘theirs’ is?

The statement above was previously yours Ara , so i suppose there are some specific OPI on your mind too ,
your own experiences ?

I think it'd be unfair to you, me and others to expound on my identity right now, thanks for understanding. If your interest is unspoiled with many other theories and agendas flooding the web, and persist you want to know,
we may talk about it.



***Yes I’ve heard of one type of OPI in particular who cannot hybridize with the human genome. All experiments result in failure.

Another group just can’t seem to get the ‘skin’ on their experiments right. Results in hybrid concoctions with extremely dry, splitting skin. Must have a problem with copper ratio, can’t seem to get the collagen production right. You would know/understand more about this than I though Agape. :original:

The lower the race of beings is on evolutionary scale ( in universal measures ) more probably results of such experimentation prove disasterous.

I think i refer now to the malevolent part of 'greys' who are terrorizing America it seems to me ..



***This is an interesting comment. Why do you think their immune levels are low? I ponder if there is a connection to their iron and copper levels, especially since those of certain lineages have a higher than normal connection to super-natural phenomenon and abilities.

Because, lets say there are certain rare lineages of pure descent who had inhabited this planet since long time ago, and survived many following cataclysms and surprisingly preserved certain genotype, it means, they did not develop as many adaptive functions and did not mix so freely with others who did ( develop more adaptive mechanisms ).
These do certainly include difference in absorbtion of various earthly elements , different mechanisms of protein and enzyme synthesis, abilility to absorb more subtle forms of energy and feed on them,
natural longevity , self-recovery processes in tissues , function of certain brain centers disfunctional in others etc etc.

Going very deep to it you'd classify these genotypes as differently functioning organisms.


***The material weaves it’s energies into the energy structure already there. This is connected to the comments I made about the energy levels of certain genes increasing, sometimes when certain genes or gene sequences hold too much energy in the physical the result is dis-ease. Same can be applied to the shaving of energies off genes through the cloning process.

I see. In common human organism there's lots of waste material accumulated even on cellular levels, yes. Some of it getting repeatedly reabsorbed and binding various unwanted elements it causes various ailments in general.
The same waste material may inhibit intelligent sequencing taking place as well.








The third is something that happens rarely and may result either in total crash or on the other hand, in real hybrid organism, with unique qualities of its own.

***I imagine in the latter comment that the spiritual DNA was in resonance with the physical DNA. If the foundation pattern isn’t available within the spiritual blueprint then there would be nothing to draw from and build upon.

No, if i may correct you here with help of some common terms, it's rather as when the original blueprint of one and the other race decide to dissolve itself and 'merry together', creating original hybrid pattern. It's their 'right' and you can't basically force them to do so even on such level. :lol3:


***In essence what you are saying is that creating hybrids isn’t as easy as 1-2-3. One needs an amalgam something that bridges the species barrier so the receiving immune system doesn’t see the additional genetic material as an alien invader. Hence why bat or reptile genetic material is added to certain chimeric experiments.

Adding another genetic material just so to increase receptivity towards other intelligent information is kind of very dirty method, and certainly not the easiest one to use either ( from my point of view ).



And hence their need for the hybrids. They would need a physical form that conforms to(and is able to hold) their intelligence but also one that is acclimatized to the planet they plan on living on. Supra Human Beings.

This seems to be the general believe. It may not apply to all of the ETI and their intentions though. Can't confirm or deny existence of such an mass plan . They are trying to accelerate our evolution and create 'emissaries' able to communicate some knowledge and prepare mankind for future open contact. The Supra Humans are more human invention.





I imagine the ‘bridges’ need to be created as conduits of communication between the upper and lower levels. I have heard there are many OPI of this level who are in communication with OPI in higher levels and through these communications Treaties are created and formalized. In an extended way, the ‘bridges’ are a necessity for the future of humanity. The right Treaties can help guard against other OPI who do not have Humanity's best interests at heart.

Certainly, goes well with my opinion..Regarding the Treaties between different OPI as far as i know, these are sorted fairly between themselves . May say on very equal platform with respect to their nature and involvment here. Those of really benevolent character are far from willing to be part of any war or lobby whatsoever. They may protect individuals, groups , nations or even all of this planet provided there're no treaties signed with the deceptive forces . If so they can do very little to pull people out of the trouble.


Lets hope for the better thing, people should be informed and keep their minds working..

Have a good day :tongue2:

[THEWATCHER]

Hello Watchers :),

In TheWatcher's (Barry) absence would you consider continuing his interesting information in regards to 'the 5' and perhaps reply to the questions on page 35 that were not answered due to the interruption that followed?

Regards.

That can be checked and if possible, resume at that point:original:

[THEWATCHER]

I think I'm about to break one of my own rules here. lol.

Usually, I seperate my spritual experiences from my paranormal experiences. I speak of some of my paranormal, but my spiritual experiences I usually keep to myself.
I used to think that I've never had experiences with ET's. Just military, from Milabs and such. But lately, I've been studying and am finding little loop holes. lol
I'm not sure exactly what is meant by OPI here. Is it a general term for benevolent Et's?

While searching my spirituality in my 20's. I have had contact/experiences with beings that at the time I would have called angels.
But in reading about these benevolent Et's, I'm finding some simularities.
I searched about the Tall Whites. Which I am not entirely sure that is the race/faction of beings I have seen, from what is described by Hall of the beings he met while on base in Nevada.
Though I'm still not sure, What I've read about the Nordics, may be somewhat simular.
Though not all of the beings I've seen have white hair. Some were dark blond, some were brown haired.
But all had qualities that I would relate to being heavenly angels. !. being the undescribable feeling of love that I felt emanating from them. 2. their patience and caring for everything they view, and have mastery over. 3. their mental abilities/psychic abilities. They've no need of weapons, just a thought would bring about destruction or miracles.

But anyway, my questions in a long round about way, would be. Is it possible that perhaps what we thought were religious experiences could actually have been ET experiences?

Great care must be undertaken here as a very fine line can be drawn between the two types of experiences

[sleepingnomore]

It's that fine line that drives me crazy. I too have come to the conclusion over many years that my spiritual/paranormal experiences are too easily explained by ETs. Would you care to elaborate some more on that "line" Watcher(s)?

[Alterego]

Hi Watcher(s), i don't know how i didn't notice before, but i'm intrigued by the signature at the bottom of your posts, "Ordo Ab Chao"...

Has that always been your signature or has it been changed recently?

Many thanks

[Ara]

Agape you a PM. :) Thank you so much for your thought expanding replies. Very much appreciated. Another day another lesson. :)

All the Best
Ara

[Ara]

***I imagine in the latter comment that the spiritual DNA was in resonance with the physical DNA. If the foundation pattern isn’t available within the spiritual blueprint then there would be nothing to draw from and build upon.

No, if i may correct you here with help of some common terms, it's rather as when the original blueprint of one and the other race decide to dissolve itself and 'merry together', creating original hybrid pattern. It's their 'right' and you can't basically force them to do so even on such level. :lol3:

***Agape so this happened naturally?


***In essence what you are saying is that creating hybrids isn’t as easy as 1-2-3. One needs an amalgam something that bridges the species barrier so the receiving immune system doesn’t see the additional genetic material as an alien invader. Hence why bat or reptile genetic material is added to certain chimeric experiments.

Adding another genetic material just so to increase receptivity towards other intelligent information is kind of very dirty method, and certainly not the easiest one to use either ( from my point of view ).

***I agree completely.

Yet different 'intelligences' are incarnating into the human soul-mind experience and in doing so expanding the parameters or as you refer to it the 'species intelligent pattern'. It is not a mutation but an expansion, ultimately resulting in the addition of energy layers to genetic material. Sometimes however the additional material can shave energy off instead of adding to it so I understand where your concern below fits in.

They're not as much 'expanding it' as human bio-intelligence itself is in fact more complicated than theirs , but most of it is either dormant, scattered or 'unplugged' in present stage.

*** because theirs is so 'ordered'.

***Agape you seem to have a specific OPI in mind, so may I ask who ‘theirs’ is?

The statement above was previously yours Ara , so i suppose there are some specific OPI on your mind too ,
your own experiences ?

***My comment was in regard to many different Intelligences originating from different levels of 'conscious intelligence'. My apologies Agape I thought you were referring to a specific type of Intelligence which has been incarnating into human form throughout history.

I think it'd be unfair to you, me and others to expound on my identity right now, thanks for understanding. If your interest is unspoiled with many other theories and agendas flooding the web, and persist you want to know, we may talk about it.

***I never close a door where a lesson can be learned or re-learned. :)

Agape:

Certainly, goes well with my opinion..Regarding the Treaties between different OPI as far as i know, these are sorted fairly between themselves . May say on very equal platform with respect to their nature and involvment here. Those of really benevolent character are far from willing to be part of any war or lobby whatsoever. They may protect individuals, groups , nations or even all of this planetprovided there're no treaties signed with the deceptive forces . If so they can do very little to pull people out of the trouble.

Indeed, can't protect them from themselves.

[Kari Lynn]

Great care must be undertaken here as a very fine line can be drawn between the two types of experiences
The fact that there is a line, answers much.
The line, though fine, is distinct. And some experiences lay on either side of it. It's just that some experiences lay right on the line. lol.

[THEWATCHER]

It's that fine line that drives me crazy. I too have come to the conclusion over many years that my spiritual/paranormal experiences are too easily explained by ETs. Would you care to elaborate some more on that "line" Watcher(s)?

It is simply a matter of belief within the individual, those with strong religious beliefs tend to view any such experience within the realms of religion. Many years ago a very astute researcher by the name of John Keel put forward a notion about cosmic jokers and the way certain apparent OPI played games with humans, a sense of humour they showed. Here we must be cautious too as perhaps these 'cosmic jokers' play out their games by way of interacting in certain playful ways

[sleepingnomore]

I'm soo with you on the "Cosmic Jokers"!:original: I hear so many experiences from people about their "guides" and how they have a sense of humour and play tricks on them. If I were an OPI I'd be tempted to mess around with ignorant species myself.

I've come to the conclusion that (your description) OPIs are entertaining themselves at our expense. That doesn't necessarily account for all experiences. We cannot discount the personal encounters of the benevolent and malenevolent beings.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Watcher(s), i don't know how i didn't notice before, but i'm intrigued by the signature at the bottom of your posts, "Ordo Ab Chao"...

Has that always been your signature or has it been changed recently?

Many thanks

A recent amendment:original:

[THEWATCHER]

I'm soo with you on the "Cosmic Jokers"!:original: I hear so many experiences from people about their "guides" and how they have a sense of humour and play tricks on them. If I were an OPI I'd be tempted to mess around with ignorant species myself.

I've come to the conclusion that (your description) OPIs are entertaining themselves at our expense. That doesn't necessarily account for all experiences. We cannot discount the personal encounters of the benevolent and malenevolent beings.


No no no, we merely wished to mention that there are elements within benign and helpful OPI that share humour and a sense of fun alongside their human counterparts. This in no way discounts very many experiences humans have with both friendly and not so friendly OPI

[Agape]

***Agape so this happened naturally?

Happens naturally . Consider each species intelligent pattern ( the blueprint , spiritual DNA in your terms ) as autonomous entity created to carry responsibility for whole species in fact.
We've talked about fusion of two totally different patterns here, each unique for another species. Forget evolution..beings were created in multiplicity and variety, during different epochs of universal time, to different time-space conditions, the common link between them all is the spark of creative intelligence responsible for their occurrence.
Genetic experimentation allows to change a very little part of it all, you might say it can access the orbit of manifestation but not the nucleus where core of the information is stored, the pattern in all its complexity is too intelligent in fact to survive while you cut it to pieces.

So in that sense, birth of new hybrid species is rare and can only happen 'naturally'. Artificially created hybrids still carry the base genome of one or another kind and their progeny as well.


*** because theirs is so 'ordered'.

Good point. The organisation level marks the presence of alien genome in our own, in a case it exists. This very subtle way it's able to affect all living functions.


***My comment was in regard to many different Intelligences originating from different levels of 'conscious intelligence'. My apologies Agape I thought you were referring to a specific type of Intelligence which has been incarnating into human form throughout history.

I see. No need for apologies Ara. I think there had been quite few OPI who had left their imprints with/in mankind from very remote past of our history till now, and each would deserve their own statement on this.
Not all of them i'm even familliar with. Problem with most is that they're not how people see them .


***I never close a door where a lesson can be learned or re-learned. :)

To one with open mind doors are never closed... :original:


I'm also learning every day

Have a good day :tongue2:



It is simply a matter of belief within the individual, those with strong religious beliefs tend to view any such experience within the realms of religion. Many years ago a very astute researcher by the name of John Keel put forward a notion about cosmic jokers and the way certain apparent OPI played games with humans, a sense of humour they showed. Here we must be cautious too as perhaps these 'cosmic jokers' play out their games by way of interacting in certain playful ways

I've seen in my own eyes there are ET hyperspace technologies designed to create and beam very perfect and beautiful images of various religious figures to peoples mind. However advanced such technologies might be, i've felt slightly disgusted..at that point.

:cup:

[sleepingnomore]

No no no, we merely wished to mention that there are elements within benign and helpful OPI that share humour and a sense of fun alongside their human counterparts. This in no way discounts very many experiences humans have with both friendly and not so friendly OPI

I apologize if you misunderstood me. Rereading my post I didn't sucessfully express what I had wanted to.

I understand that OPIs have personalities as diverse as us and since I also believe we were seeded and genetically engineered to some extent by OPIs that is not surprising.

[Ara]

***Agape so this happened naturally?

Happens naturally . Consider each species intelligent pattern ( the blueprint , spiritual DNA in your terms ) as autonomous entity created to carry responsibility for whole species in fact.
We've talked about fusion of two totally different patterns here, each unique for another species. Forget evolution..beings were created in multiplicity and variety, during different epochs of universal time, to different time-space conditions, the common link between them all is the spark of creative intelligence responsible for their occurrence.
Genetic experimentation allows to change a very little part of it all, you might say it can access the orbit of manifestation but not the nucleus where core of the information is stored, the pattern in all its complexity is too intelligent in fact to survive while you cut it to pieces.

So in that sense, birth of new hybrid species is rare and can only happen 'naturally'. Artificially created hybrids still carry the base genome of one or another kind and their progeny as well.

Agape I think what you refer to above is what I refer to as the Master Template. The template in it's original form is always held yet the 'copies' can hold mutations, evolve via environment etc and be genetically modified.

Is my understanding correlating to what you were referring to as the 'photocopies'? (If I haven't explained my understanding well enough then I can expand in PM)

Hoping we are building a bridge of understanding here. :original:

All the Best
Ara

[Agape]

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Agape I think what you refer to above is what I refer to as the Master Template. The template in it's original form is always held yet the 'copies' can hold mutations, evolve via environment etc and be genetically modified.

Is my understanding correlating to what you were referring to as the 'photocopies'? (If I haven't explained my understanding well enough then I can expand in PM)

Hoping we are building a bridge of understanding here. :original:

All the Best
Ara

Thanks Ara, very well suting nomination. That's exactly what we were talking about . The master template is basically changeless through all the evolutionary path of any particular species.
It's 'lower layers' are only the ones prone to mutation.

By the way, the first hand example of 'hybridisation' is cross-breeding of human beings among their own kind. Though their number was limited at the beginning they've created numerous 'photocopies' and varieties by combining the already changed imprint of the original.

Thus we have genders, races, local ethnics etc., various genotypes scattered all over the earth, but the original 'master template' has no gender or race.

Next question next round :boat:

The bridge certainly extends very far..

:original:

[Ara]

Thanks Ara, very well suting nomination. That's exactly what we were talking about . The master template is basically changeless through all the evolutionary path of any particular species.
It's 'lower layers' are only the ones prone to mutation.

***Finally! LOL Now I am with you. :woot_jump:

By the way, the first hand example of 'hybridisation' is cross-breeding of human beings among their own kind. Though their number was limited at the beginning they've created numerous 'photocopies' and varieties by combining the already changed imprint of the original.

***Yes this I understand.:original: For some reason when you wrote of hybridization occurring naturally I did not equate your statement to the earlier prototypes of humans. Suffering brain fog at the moment.:wall::original:

Thus we have genders, races, local ethnics etc., various genotypes scattered all over the earth, but the original 'master template' has no gender or race.

***Indeed, it is the Master Template from which all derive from.

Must say I am curious as to how this information came to be known. I can think of two possibilities, the information was gleaned from OPI in communication with 'others' or someone found an artifact based on that information.:smoke::zip::original:

Next question next round :boat:

The bridge certainly extends very far..

***Thank goodness.:original:

:original:

All the Best
Ara

[Agape]

***Finally! LOL Now I am with you.

You are swift lady ( are you..):original:

By the way, the first hand example of 'hybridisation' is cross-breeding of human beings among their own kind. Though their number was limited at the beginning they've created numerous 'photocopies' and varieties by combining the already changed imprint of the original.

***Yes this I understand. For some reason when you wrote of hybridization occurring naturally I did not equate your statement to the earlier prototypes of humans. Suffering brain fog at the moment.

The previous comment where i've used 'naturally' in context with 'hybridization' did not focus on the same phenomenon though. There we talked about the processes of coalescence between two totally different biological information patterns such as human and other, with respect to ET-human hybridization experiments and that's where i've mentioned that 'total fusion' of them is something that can't be coerced artificially but can only happen 'naturally= by their own decision' , something that requires agreement from both of them .
Apologies forwards, i'm not being really systematic here ..

Talking about the Master Template , nice denomination, on human level either , there's no need for such coalescence to happen as it's basically tranferred from one parent to one child .

I may doubt it'd ever happen in intergalactic proportions , some say it did. Well, things do happen sometimes..:cup:

Thus we have genders, races, local ethnics etc., various genotypes scattered all over the earth, but the original 'master template' has no gender or race.

***Indeed, it is the Master Template from which all derive from.

Right as correct

Must say I am curious as to how this information came to be known. I can think of two possibilities, the information was gleaned from OPI in communication with 'others' or someone found an artifact based on that information.

Both you may say, but full information on the subject is still classified :bond:

The bridge certainly extends very far..

***Thank goodness.

And thanks to you as well, see i found all the nice smileyes

:boat:

[Ara]

***Finally! LOL Now I am with you.

You are swift lady ( are you..):original:

By the way, the first hand example of 'hybridisation' is cross-breeding of human beings among their own kind. Though their number was limited at the beginning they've created numerous 'photocopies' and varieties by combining the already changed imprint of the original.

***Yes this I understand. For some reason when you wrote of hybridization occurring naturally I did not equate your statement to the earlier prototypes of humans. Suffering brain fog at the moment.

The previous comment where i've used 'naturally' in context with 'hybridization' did not focus on the same phenomenon though. There we talked about the processes of coalescence between two totally different biological information patterns such as human and other, with respect to ET-human hybridization experiments and that's where i've mentioned that 'total fusion' of them is something that can't be coerced artificially but can only happen 'naturally= by their own decision' , something that requires agreement from both of them .
Apologies forwards, i'm not being really systematic here ..

***Yes so it was Agape. Brain fog again on my part. LOL
And my understanding concurs with what you've shared above.:original:


Talking about the Master Template , nice denomination, on human level either , there's no need for such coalescence to happen as it's basically tranferred from one parent to one child .

***Indeed correct to my understanding also.

I may doubt it'd ever happen in intergalactic proportions , some say it did. Well, things do happen sometimes..:cup:

***I am sure it did happen in intergalactic proportions. :cup::original:

Thus we have genders, races, local ethnics etc., various genotypes scattered all over the earth, but the original 'master template' has no gender or race.

***Indeed, it is the Master Template from which all derive from.

Right as correct

Must say I am curious as to how this information came to be known. I can think of two possibilities, the information was gleaned from OPI in communication with 'others' or someone found an artifact based on that information.

Both you may say, but full information on the subject is still classified :bond:

***Ah ok :original::wink2::smoke:

The bridge certainly extends very far..

***Thank goodness.

And thanks to you as well, see i found all the nice smileyes

***Yay. :woot_jump:

:boat:

All the Best
Ara

[iainl140285]

Order out of chaos.

Do you belive it?:lightsabre:

[Agape]

Faith and believe..the eternal committment of knowledge to ignorance and ignorance to knowledge..things in natural state do have an order yes.

Creation happened in correct order..we are all orderly beings with systems on our mind. This is to sort out the chaos outside, to be able to do so.

Living universe versus non living universe, the higher order against the lower order, looks chaotic but more you understand more you find out that things are perfectly logical.
It's all about orders and how to sort them out..

''Go tell the World'' :lmao:

[iainl140285]

Faith and believe..the eternal committment of knowledge to ignorance and ignorance to knowledge..things in natural state do have an order yes.

Creation happened in correct order..we are all orderly beings with systems on our mind. This is to sort out the chaos outside, to be able to do so.

Living universe versus non living universe, the higher order against the lower order, looks chaotic but more you understand more you find out that things are perfectly logical.
It's all about orders and how to sort them out..

''Go tell the World'' :lmao:

Everything is as it is meant to be, isn't that perfect order?:naughty:

Creating chaos to bring about a NEW desired order was what I was asking - do the watchers hold this to be a viable solution to 'dis-closure'?

Lets look at the word believe shall we

LIE
VEIL
EVIL

Look deeper ...:original:

[Ara]

Faith and believe..the eternal committment of knowledge to ignorance and ignorance to knowledge..things in natural state do have an order yes.

Creation happened in correct order..we are all orderly beings with systems on our mind. This is to sort out the chaos outside, to be able to do so.

Living universe versus non living universe, the higher order against the lower order, looks chaotic but more you understand more you find out that things are perfectly logical.
It's all about orders and how to sort them out..

''Go tell the World'' :lmao:

Hi Agape,:original:

We are constantly bombarded with many sensations (internal & external), many different thoughts, ideas, all of which influence our minds and emotions. I imagine having an orderly thought process would help to understand the world/environment around us.:original:

I understand there are ancient texts which provide the necessary rituals, initiations and activations which assist this to occur in a natural way, however the regular person doesn't have access to these doctrines. Having said that, how can we, the public, structure our thought processes in a more logical/ordered way without Becoming so clinical in our thought processes that we lose our inherent connection to our humanitarian qualities?

Nice to continue with our dialogs. :flowers2::original:

All the Best
Ara

[Ara]

Mankind has shown that any being outwardly appearing out of the norm is rejected and is perceived as a threat to him.To alleviate the fears
inborn within mankind OPI have utilised advanced genetic research to
lessen the shock factor when interacting with mankind on various levels.

The Watchers,

Can you elaborate how OPI have utilised advanced genetic research in the described scenario above please? Many thanks.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Even though the health conditions of The Watcher continue to be a concern we will allow him to return here for direct postings within the next 48 hours. We will of course continue to monitor here and should the need arise, buffer The Watcher against any unnecessary situations. We act as go-betweens and have limited direct resources available to us in specific fields, we call upon others whom have more direct access. Later it is hoped to answer the above postings and also to state our current views on Full Ufo Disclosure. Thankyou for your patience.

[THEWATCHER]

VIEWS TOWARDS FULL UFO DISCLOSURE.............

Avalon and Camelot members should try to perceive that should Disclosure processes begin it will be as a layered process, the top, the most easy and non destructive layer, will be official proclamation that this planet has been visited by other life forms and continues to be visited by same.
This will be an official acknowledgement that an alien race using technology far advanced than ours, commonly referred to as Ufo's, have been interacting with our planet for quite some time.
This will be passed forwards with the acknowledgement that many nations have been studying, researching, investigating this phenomena, overtly and covertly.
Officials will state something along the lines that after many years of close scrutiny no threat has been perceived by these visitors and that the various nations feel the public safety is secured and continued with the release of this information.

THAT IS THE TOP, OUTERMOST LAYER OF THE DISCLOSURE 'ONION'...........

As we begin to peel off towards the next layer, accountability looms on the horizon for many, but not just yet, the next layer is also relatively 'safe'...............
This layer centres around various nations acquiring pieces of hardware that have crashed and been retrieved, with the idea of trying to ascertain its workings, usually in order to try and back engineer and use the acquired technology to further advance our own. This will be glossed over as much as they can get away with but with full knowledge certain nations will have to come clean with their various retrievals and the special projects set up to reverse engineer hardware that has found its way into their possession. A brief mention of special projects and secure facilities will follow but will be limited in its release.

These first two layers are of little consequence in the big picture and although the various nations will seemingly resist releasing the information they know very little in the way of repercussions will ensue post disclosure, they know that this is really data already accepted by most.It is the next few layers that they fear being peeled open to public scrutiny. For here there will be much in the way of accountability, many agencies will have to shut down specific projects and there could very well be legal proceedings brought about in post disclosure times.The publics trust in the Governments, the Military, Intelligence and other Agencies will be at an all time low if these deeper layers were peeled open.

THESE DEEPER LAYERS PERTAIN TO AREAS SUCH AS........

(NOT IN LAYERED ORDER OF COURSE)

Alien Abductions.
Mutilation cases.
MILAB abductions....also joint Alien/Military abductions.
True nature of technology advancement gleaned from Alien technologies, including other sources of energy.
Genetic experimentation/engineering/enhancements.
Mindcontrolling technologies.
Facilities whose remit within deep black projects cover some/all of above, such as Dulce, Peasemore, Lambourne, China Lakes, etc etc etc.
These and others will be virtually impossible for inclusion within full disclosure, or at least will take many years to be revealed openly.

Perhaps that is sufficient for now, more another time.



With the permission of Avalon and Camelot members we would like to input at some stage information regarding the alleged Dulce facility, Stargate technologies, alleged MJ12 data and a few others.........at some stage

[THEWATCHER]

The Watchers,

Can you elaborate how OPI have utilised advanced genetic research in the described scenario above please? Many thanks.[/COLOR]:original:

All the Best
Ara




In short, those OPI that walk among us have gone undetected because of the genetic alterations they have undertaken in order to walk freely among us, simple as that.:original:

[Jnana]

Alien Abductions.
Mutilation cases.
MILAB abductions....also joint Alien/Military abductions.
True nature of technology advancement gleaned from Alien technologies, including other sources of energy.
Genetic experimentation/engineering/enhancements.
Mindcontrolling technologies.
Facilities whose remit within deep black projects cover some/all of above, such as Dulce, Peasemore, Lambourne, China Lakes, etc etc etc.
These and others will be virtually impossible for inclusion within full disclosure, or at least will take many years to be revealed openly.

Perhaps that is sufficient for now, more another time.

Very interesting summary. I'm guessing gravity manipulation technology, and the science behind it, falls somewhere in this list. Can you give some idea as to how sensitive this information is? After all, it's pretty obvious UFOs aren't using rockets.

With the permission of Avalon and Camelot members we would like to input at some stage information regarding the alleged Dulce facility, Stargate technologies, alleged MJ12 data and a few others.........at some stage


Don't hold back on my account. I've enjoyed reading this thread for quite a while, though I usually just sit back and watch. Any information on any of these topics would be of interest to me.

[sleepingnomore]

You're right I think most people accept the first few layers. News flash: Confidence in governments, military, politicians and government agencies is at an all time low. I don't mean to be scarcastic but I think most of us realise the game that's been being played for some time now.

I think most of us are interested in the end game and the OPI/government power struggles.

[Ara]

In short, those OPI that walk among us have gone undetected because of the genetic alterations they have undertaken in order to walk freely among us, simple as that.:original:

Thanks for the reply. :original: I hope Barry is okay. Please pass my deepest regards to him. :flowers2:
All the Best
Ara

[Helvetic]

The Watchers ... what time frame is accurate for the official release to the public from a government on the top two "layer" of disclosure?

I think some governments who know, are under pressure to release the top two "layers" of disclosure before 2012.

The preperations for disclosure running faster, see presents in mainstream media and movie industry.

Thanx to The Watchers and welcome back Barry :king:

[iainl140285]

The Watchers,

Can you elaborate how OPI have utilised advanced genetic research in the described scenario above please? Many thanks.[/COLOR]:original:

All the Best
Ara




OPI = PI = 3.141
O = Circle.

Nothing is coincidence.:naughty:

Also - good to have you back Barry. Please take it easy:thumb_yello:

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Guys, the lads are allowing me to return here, under supervision, good to be back, missed you guys. Have a lot of catching up to do looks like as well. Bit by bit i will get back to routine so excuse my slowness for a while. and to make certain you know its me and not them i will leave my usual sig at bottom. I see they have made some changes here as it is. Oh well!! Cheers, see you all later on:original:

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Apologies to all here at Avalon and Camelot. The return of The Watcher will have to be postponed unfortunately. His return was a little premature, his health is worsening but being monitored closely. All for now

[THEWATCHER]

PROJECT CAMELOT MISSION STATEMENT.........

Expressly on behalf of The Watcher aka The Voice

We shall prevail.

Being of sound mind, heart and spirit, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of our truths, our ideas, our freedoms, or our work.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out... no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression... that we shall prevail.

[THEWATCHER]

Mr Miles Johnston has recently released a furtherance to his pet activity of filming and then placing within the media the whole series of claims by The Watcher. Now we have news of a 3 disc set DVD for full commercial sale. The motives of this gentleman are not fully known to us but we view closely his actions with regard to The Watcher. Unlike many others we have seen rugged determination by The Watcher to continue facing his critics and remaining true to his oroginal disclosures for 15 years. In the beginning he was told to play down much of the data he was allowed to release, and act in a certain casual manner in the way the data was delivered on tape, an orchestrated manner was forced upon him at the time, for which he had no say. The data, and the way it was to be delivered, remained out of The Watcher's control.

YOUTUBE BASES 2 TAKE 2 FURTHER INTERVIEWS

YouTube - Bases 2 Take 2 Part 3

[THEWATCHER]

Certain specific data can now be released regarding The Watcher, data which has been denied an open platform until now. The original data as presented in the files contained the tip of the iceberg and was all that was allowed to be made public. Between 2005 and until recently, much greater detailed data was released via a small private forum organised by The watcher and contained a small number of experiencers and those involved within specific programs. These individuals were brought together into one safe haven by The Watcher beginning in late 2005. Since the shutdown of that forum two or three of those original individuals have had access to this site. Enough for now

[THEWATCHER]

Placed for input from members.............http://www.rense.com/general85/calmw.htm

http://www.foundingfather1776.com/

[THEWATCHER]

phase two silence is golden

[THEWATCHER]

QUOTE from Eve Lorgen.............

"Many alien abductees and especially those who have experienced some level of military/secret government level of involvement in their experiences, often suffer from PTSD and many anxiety disorders and addictions. In addition to these conditions many have physical health issues such as chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, immune disorders and gynecological anomalies."


http://www.evelorgen.com/index.html


THIS ONE SEEMS WELL RESEARCHED AND IS ON THE BALL.........

[THEWATCHER]

The Watcher's full recovery may take longer than previously estimated, his condition is not quite so chronic as earlier but still requires great care. With the permission of members here at Avalon and Camelot we will remain a little longer, minding the fort (The Watcher would grin at that :original:)

[sleepingnomore]

The Watcher's full recovery may take longer than previously estimated, his condition is not quite so chronic as earlier but still requires great care. With the permission of members here at Avalon and Camelot we will remain a little longer, minding the fort (The Watcher would grin at that :original:)


Send the Watcher my regards! I hope his health improves soon.

In your previous post of symptoms of a ET/military abduction scenario you mentioned gynecological abnormalities. What specific type of abnormalities are we talking about? I'm not surprised about the other symptoms as they are common with any tramatic event but the later intrigues me. I would think phobias would be another common problem for these abductees. Many people chalk up their phobias to past life memories and that is certainly something to think about but I tend to think a great number of them are caused by these abductions.

[Kari Lynn]

QUOTE from Eve Lorgen.............

"Many alien abductees and especially those who have experienced some level of military/secret government level of involvement in their experiences, often suffer from PTSD and many anxiety disorders and addictions. In addition to these conditions many have physical health issues such as chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, immune disorders and gynecological anomalies."


http://www.evelorgen.com/index.html


THIS ONE SEEMS WELL RESEARCHED AND IS ON THE BALL.........

I am actually shocked that someone actually mentioned this, but not surprised that it is a symptom.
Like Sleepingnomore, I wouldn't mind if you knew, could list some of the gynecological symptoms. But, how close would I be if I took my own guess of:
Early onset of menstruation
irregular menstruation (forget a calendar)
severely painful menstruation
scar tissue or thickening of uterus wall
tipped or turned uterus
anaorgasmia
phantom pregnancy (this would be medically diagnosed as being pregnant, but at some point during gestation, it is discovered that there is no fetus or baby in the womb.)

[THEWATCHER]

Send the Watcher my regards! I hope his health improves soon.

In your previous post of symptoms of a ET/military abduction scenario you mentioned gynecological abnormalities. What specific type of abnormalities are we talking about? I'm not surprised about the other symptoms as they are common with any tramatic event but the later intrigues me. I would think phobias would be another common problem for these abductees. Many people chalk up their phobias to past life memories and that is certainly something to think about but I tend to think a great number of them are caused by these abductions.

The specific abnormalities would better be stated by someone more conversant with that side of physical affects, sorry we cannot be more helpful

[THEWATCHER]

I am actually shocked that someone actually mentioned this, but not surprised that it is a symptom.
Like Sleepingnomore, I wouldn't mind if you knew, could list some of the gynecological symptoms. But, how close would I be if I took my own guess of:
Early onset of menstruation
irregular menstruation (forget a calendar)
severely painful menstruation
scar tissue or thickening of uterus wall
tipped or turned uterus
anaorgasmia
phantom pregnancy (this would be medically diagnosed as being pregnant, but at some point during gestation, it is discovered that there is no fetus or baby in the womb.)

Thankyou Kari, those you quote are indeed part of this, there are others but we feel another expert in these matters would be best to detail:original:

[THEWATCHER]

NOTES FYI

Preston Nichols claims he knows and has met Whitemore (Sentinel, head of AL/499 at the time of The Watchers placement in the facility). Preston states Whitemore was overseeing program operations on both sides of the Atlantic.Personal data and a description of Whitemore was never released publicly, The Watcher kept this data out of the public domain with the hope that future research would come to light.Preston has knowledge of the facilities and programs in use.Preston states the similarity between the Montauk chair and the trip seat should now become clear. With some research..........The London chair.
Preston confirms NSA being integral to operations and program controls.
Preston confirms codes used inside the Mannequin program as stated by The Watcher.

On a connected, but side note. we find it strange that, in the case of Dulce and security guard Thomas Castello, that with security being so very stringent at such facilities, that Castello managed to take in a camera or two and roam around taking stills and a surveillence videotape film. Then exiting the facility with camera and tape..There is something very wrong here. Security at such facilities, Peasemore included, would make it totally impossible for this to occur.The ONLY possible explanation if we are to believe the very short silent film segment is indeed from the interior of the Dulce facility, would be that the film removal was allowed and sanctioned by the controllers of Dulce, for whatever reason, whatever agenda.Same for the alleged 25 B/W photographs taken by Castello, of which, has anyone actually seen these? Not the alleged sketches which have appeared on the internet but the photo's themselves.
The gaping holes in the Dulce claim need addressing. Simply because other individuals lay claim to having involvement with Dulce should not steer one towards accepting the claims. Its called perpetuating the myth in certain circles. Others have made lavish, extraordinary almost unbelievable claims about Dulce with no substantiation or verification at all. The repeating of original claims by others over a period of time seems to have cemented the facility into the halls of acceptance by the research community.
The Dulce business might well be true, all we are pointing out is the fact that with such severe security it would have been impossible to obtain photographic data and remove secure documentation without inside help.

[THEWATCHER]

The Watcher unlocked the door and pried it open, we have removed the door completely, readiness for phase three ultimate disclosures......stay tuned:original:

[THEWATCHER]

signs in the skies.........diversionary tactics to be employed

[iainl140285]

Is that where the missing Airbus went?
And a distraction from what?:original:

[THEWATCHER]

Is that where the missing Airbus went?
And a distraction from what?:original:

That aircraft was unfortunate enough to suffer electrical systems failure according to official reports thus far. No, we are directing attention to planned false flag activities that may come into play within a short timeframe.

[iainl140285]

That aircraft was unfortunate enough to suffer electrical systems failiure according to official reports thus far. No, we are directing attention to planned false flag activities that may come into play within a short timeframe.

Bluebeam, HAARP, Terrorist attack, something else?

[Karen]

Bluebeam, HAARP, Terrorist attack, something else?

Ha, ha, I loved it first thing outta their mouths was it was not a terrorist attack.

[iainl140285]

That aircraft was unfortunate enough to suffer electrical systems failiure according to official reports thus far. No, we are directing attention to planned false flag activities that may come into play within a short timeframe.

By the way, the reports thus far.:lol3: Any reports from this period can now be classed as void. The spin will have already been added.

The initial reports are the most vital and often the most truthfull.

[THEWATCHER]

Bluebeam, HAARP, Terrorist attack, something else?

Unknown quantity at this time

[THEWATCHER]

Ha, ha, I loved it first thing outta their mouths was it was not a terrorist attack.

Do we have a problem here?

[THEWATCHER]

By the way, the reports thus far.:lol3: Any reports from this period can now be classed as void. The spin will have already been added.

The initial reports are the most vital and often the most truthfull.

Initial reaction is that the aircraft suffered problems and went down. The Airbus has a good record but accidents DO happen, systems fail, human errors occur. Most unfortunate but these things do happen

[Kosams]

The Watcher unlocked the door and pried it open, we have removed the door completely, readiness for phase three ultimate disclosures......stay tuned:original:

Does this have anything to do with the information coming from Mark Huber (http://www.welcomethelight.com/) site? Looks like it's all coming to a head in a very short time frame.

Jim

[THEWATCHER]

Does this have anything to do with the information coming from Mark Huber (http://www.welcomethelight.com/) site? Looks like it's all coming to a head in a very short time frame.

Jim

NO, we operate on our own terms and data gathering, we do not, would not, rely on other sources

[iainl140285]

Do we have a problem here?

Far be it for me to speak on someone elses behalf, but I believe Karen was reffering to the media rather than yourselfs who did not actually allude to the possibility of a terrorist attack being responsible :thumb_yello:

Simple mis-understanding. :original:

[James Casbolt]

NOTES FYI

Preston Nichols claims he knows and has met Whitemore (Sentinel, head of AL/499 at the time of The Watchers placement in the facility). Preston states Whitemore was overseeing program operations on both sides of the Atlantic.Personal data and a description of Whitemore was never released publicly, The Watcher kept this data out of the public domain with the hope that future research would come to light.Preston has knowledge of the facilities and programs in use.Preston states the similarity between the Montauk chair and the trip seat should now become clear. With some research..........The London chair.
Preston confirms NSA being integral to operations and program controls.
Preston confirms codes used inside the Mannequin program as stated by The Watcher.

On a connected, but side note. we find it strange that, in the case of Dulce and security guard Thomas Castello, that with security being so very stringent at such facilities, that Castello managed to take in a camera or two and roam around taking stills and a surveillence videotape film. Then exiting the facility with camera and tape..There is something very wrong here. Security at such facilities, Peasemore included, would make it totally impossible for this to occur.The ONLY possible explanation if we are to believe the very short silent film segment is indeed from the interior of the Dulce facility, would be that the film removal was allowed and sanctioned by the controllers of Dulce, for whatever reason, whatever agenda.Same for the alleged 25 B/W photographs taken by Castello, of which, has anyone actually seen these? Not the alleged sketches which have appeared on the internet but the photo's themselves.
The gaping holes in the Dulce claim need addressing. Simply because other individuals lay claim to having involvement with Dulce should not steer one towards accepting the claims. Its called perpetuating the myth in certain circles. Others have made lavish, extraordinary almost unbelievable claims about Dulce with no substantiation or verification at all. The repeating of original claims by others over a period of time seems to have cemented the facility into the halls of acceptance by the research community.
The Dulce business might well be true, all we are pointing out is the fact that with such severe security it would have been impossible to obtain photographic data and remove secure documentation without inside help.

I have an idea- you have 'possible/probable' colour photos of the Dulce facility, as well as connected 'possible/probable' Department of Energy documents from the individual who supplied them.

You also have in your possession a 'possible/probable' colour photo of hardware in the genetics facility ( a so-called 'blood vat' )

Why not post them on this thread and let everyone make up there own minds

PROJECT IBIS

'The future isn't what it used to be Mr Angel'

From the film 'Angel Heart'

[James Casbolt]

Far be it for me to speak on someone elses behalf, but I believe Karen was reffering to the media rather than yourselfs who did not actually allude to the possibility of a terrorist attack being responsible :thumb_yello:

Simple mis-understanding. :original:

I was having problems with my mirror last night

[sleepingnomore]

The "possible/probable" photos that James speaks of would certainly be a good start at real disclosure.

[THEWATCHER]

We do indeed have these photographs, supplied by Mr James Casbolt from one of his NSA sources, unverified by us but filed. Why don't you post them yourself Mr Casbolt along with any back up data from your source that you feel would be appropriate. The original argument stands re data allegedly obtained by Thomas Castello and the circumstances he stated he obtained that data, non verified to date.

[iainl140285]

We do indeed have these photographs, supplied by Mr James Casbolt from one of his NSA sources, unverified by us but filed. Why don't you post them yourself Mr Casbolt along with any back up data from your source that you feel would be appropriate. The original argument stands re data allegedly obtained by Thomas Castello and the circumstances he stated he obtained that data, non verified to date.

Well put :thumb_yello:

Can I ask, do you have anything you can show that has been sourced/researched and verified by yourselves? :original: Or perhaps point to an existing evidence that you would endorse that is already accessable to us?

[Alterego]

Thanks again for the input Watchers... All i can say is that i have a growing feeling that things are coming to a head, whether we're ready or not

[THEWATCHER]

Well put :thumb_yello:

Can I ask, do you have anything you can show that has been sourced/researched and verified by yourselves? :original: Or perhaps point to an existing evidence that you would endorse that is already accessable to us?


Working with The Watcher we shall see what comprises the next level, the final, ultimate disclosures

[THEWATCHER]

Thanks again for the input Watchers... All i can say is that i have a growing feeling that things are coming to a head, whether we're ready or not

There is much more to come, regarding input, climate dictates, politically, as this drives the machine, futures

[James Casbolt]

Dulce level 1 ( I trust my source and believe this photo to be authentic )

Click on pic for larger image



850

[James Casbolt]

Old access hall at Dulce

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Dulce vault shaft
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The photographs are from the inside of the first level of the facility. Archive vault renovations were underway at the time. This area was built in the 1970’s and much work was underway at the time these pics were taken ( June 2008 ) with an expansion area to the west. These have been released with permission from the US Government and this is the first time they have been made public. Two journalists have copies as well. The first is a well known documentary producer in the UK named Ray Addison. The other is Bob Kiviat who is also well known in the US.
Security at Dulce confiscated my friend’s camera and personal belongings when he went to Level 3. He had to change all of his clothes, go through an x-ray so they could see if he was hiding anything, then pass into a decomtamination area, put on coveralls ( blue ones ), shoe covers and a hard hat, then go to a secure area to get his badges and his weight taken.

[James Casbolt]

This is one of the records vaults that was renovated at the time. My friend is an archivist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivist
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This photograph is interesting. Nobody is sure if it is authentic or not as it was recieved from a source which has not be verified. It apprently shows a so called 'Sirian Annunaki' also known as 'Tall Whites'. Ultimately it is not important if the photo if real or not. I personally know people who have worked with this humanoid beings in various underground facilities.

I mention this because my archivist friend saw a dozen or so of these beings when he was at Dulce in 2008. He has also worked closely with these beings at a facility in Oak Ridge, Tennesee.
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I'll post some more pics and documents, answer a couple of questions and then leave the thread. I do not want take the attention away from Barry and Defence Intelligence as their disclosures are of extreme importance.

Quick message for you guys-

The Phoenix is rising
Mass programming of puppets breaking down
Being a walking, stalking, killer-on-a-string is no longer the order of day

[James Casbolt]

I don't like teling other people's stories but my friend cannot go public and has asked me to make these things public for him

I was told there are 14 genetics labs at Dulce. My friend only saw two of them. They are huge halls going from the main hub like spokes of a wheel ( sometimes known as an 'Atlantean Temple Form' from my understanding ). There is a very high spiritual energy in the entire place- almost overwhelming I was told. RVers can tune into this through the pics. The genetic labs have 20 foot high ceilings and 30 foot wide hallways. Plenty of storage and lab works. I RVed the other labs a few months before I was sent these pics and saw large curved hallways with 'cells' containing people on the right hand side of the halls. These rooms each had one person in with a glass or plastic particion between them and medical staff working in the halls. The prisoners has white gowns and pyjamers on. Between approx every 8th room was an operating threatre with a double swinging doors.

I have a photo of that was sent to my contact from a Dulce employee. This was taken on level 5 and shows a seperator pump for working wiht blood plasma. I'm having trouble downloading the pic onto the forum as the following keeps coming up when I try

Plasmalab[1].BMP:
The Dimension limits for this filetype are 620 x 280. We were unable to resize your file so you will need to do so manually and upload it again. Your file is currently 458 x 475.

[James Casbolt]

I'm having trouble downloading my friend's MAJ/UMBRA-8 upgrade papers when he was transferred from Oak Ridge to Dulce.

I'll try and find a way around this

[waitinginthewings]

I'm having trouble downloading my friend's MAJ/UMBRA-8 upgrade papers when he was transferred from Oak Ridge to Dulce.

I'll try and find a way around this

Weird....it opened into Notepad....but there was about 4 odd symbols to the left margin....thats it.

What program can we open it with?

[James Casbolt]

Okay, managed to get the blood vat pic up but still having trouble with the umbra document. I'll attempt to get some other docs up after this


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Security badge from the Y-12 facility in North Carolina where my friend also works. He has to wear four badges at all times. All are for different purposes. One is his permanent badge, other is his daily badge, other is door scanner/retina scan badge and other is for lower level access. All badges except dailys remain in base at all times. They do not lave with anyone. They get turned in with a persons coveralls when they leave. Notice on the strip on next to his employee number is turning pink/redish in colour. This strip turns pink if you don't scan it with an ultraviolet badge scanner. Bascially the badge goes bad to prevent counterfeiting or forgery. The strip goes after about 20 hours after about 20 hours without being scanned. If you walk around the facility with a bright pink strip the guards know you are not supposed to be there.






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NNSA at the bottom of badge-

National Nuclear Security Administration

My friend is mainly involved with the Department of Energy

[sleepingnomore]

I've seen all these pictures somewhere before. Did you post these in your thread on this forum James? If someone could please enlarge the last picture I'd appreciate it. I'm on dial-up and having problems doing it myself.

[James Casbolt]

[B]My friend was told to pass these photos onto me from his superiors. They show the inside of the Oak Ridge facility in Tennesee where the US government is working with various ET races. I will detail this soon.

The photo below is the computer archive area of the base

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Archive lab 1


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I've seen all these pictures somewhere before. Did you post these in your thread on this forum James? If someone could please enlarge the last picture I'd appreciate it. I'm on dial-up and having problems doing it myself.

The two photos of the blood vat and the NNSA badge have been released publicly in the past. The pics of the Dulce and Oak Ridge bases are being made public for the first time here.

Click on the photo to see enlarged version.

[THEWATCHER]

Thankyou for this input Mr Casbolt, please, feel free to continue for as long as you require:original:

[manticore]

Hello James,

Nice to see you back. We corresponded back in December and I would like to invite you to my show in the near future to discuss these new findings.

Best regards,

Mel

[Ara]

James Casbolt's information seems to tie in with certain areas of The Watchers revelations such as why certain "abductees" experience poltergeist activity. Also why certain genetic manipulations have been performed and why animal DNA has been used. I imagine Animal DNA is lower in frequency to Human DNA and since Animals are more tuned to the ID shadow world psychically, and can see/hear into spectrums human perceptions cannot, I ponder, Hunter task forces have been created? (Noticed the dead tree, the sigils, and the mention of black entities in the latest Miles Johnson video, hence the question.)
Plus if doorways/portholes are opening between realms are hunter task forces being utilized in this realm plus other realms? Are Beings in other realms being captured, retrieved for genetic material?

Also Ron Adams spoke of having certain abilities which he attributed to his connection to ETs. When listening to Ron's description of his abilities it sound to me as though he was tweaked for the purpose of being able to sense and possibly identify certain types of entities.

If I may ask, is the issue of the occult, in regards to portholes and those ETs & Humans delving within the dark arts/shadow/spook world and the myriad of entities existing therein, an 'off-limits' area?

All the Best
Ara

[James Casbolt]

Thankyou for this input Mr Casbolt, please, feel free to continue for as long as you require:original:

Thank you

[James Casbolt]

Hello James,

Nice to see you back. We corresponded back in December and I would like to invite you to my show in the near future to discuss these new findings.

Best regards,

Mel

Hello Mel

I can be contacted at the following email address-

michaelprince2003@hotmail.co.uk

[James Casbolt]

More photos, in and around the Oak Ridge facility, as my contact drives to work

Photo shows old guard tower



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Sign to work entrance


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First gate entrance-badge scan


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Work power facility from road


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I've just linked this part of the thread over to the Eagles Disobey team


http://the-goldenthread.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1&page=13

[James Casbolt]

Aerial shot of the Oak Ridge facility.

The base has a circular 'hub' type underground facility below it.



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ROWS ( Remote Operational Weapons System ) at Oak Ridge. This is a heat-seeking mechanized rifle that automatically locks onto anything in it's sensor range. It fires upon the command of a security guard located underground.
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The following data will make it clear why the place has such high security-

I do not like telling other people's stories but as my friend cannot present himself to the public, I have been asked to talk about his experiences. I will refer to him as 'Lincoln' in this account.

Lincoln has seen and worked with the beings shown in the earlier photo known as 'Sirian Annunaki' or 'Tall Whites'. Just like the old TV series 'V' ( which was part of an public education program at time ), I believe it will be these beings who will presented to public in the future. However this will be a benevolent situation.

Lincoln believes these beings to be a "neutral' race. He says they are attempting to consolidate information for a positive use and are aslo working with more disruptive and negative lifeforms to become more enlightened towards the educational needs are human beings. Like any race, there are positive and negative amongst them.

They are concerned with the spiritual and technological evolution of humans and they can be very 'persuasive' when it comes to comprehension of certain technological advances and spiritual concepts. Such areas as 'life-extension' are being worked on at these places and photos will be shown here later that are connected to these proceedures.

Lincoln has found his experiences with these beings to be very pleasant and and he never felt threatened in any way. These are the only beings he has had continual contact with, with the exception of one occurance with a large lizard-type being at the facility which left him traumatised. These events will be covered here.

Lincoln's close contacts with the Annunaki were for clarification purposes on certain projects that he had been assigned to by the Department of Energy. The Annunaki were there as consultants. The first time he ever worked with one them, he assumed he was from Norway or perhaps Sweden.

My time is almost up at the local library. Will continue tommorow.

[THEWATCHER]

James Casbolt's information seems to tie in with certain areas of The Watchers revelations such as why certain "abductees" experience poltergeist activity. Also why certain genetic manipulations have been performed and why animal DNA has been used. I imagine Animal DNA is lower in frequency to Human DNA and since Animals are more tuned to the ID shadow world psychically, and can see/hear into spectrums human perceptions cannot, I ponder, Hunter task forces have been created? (Noticed the dead tree, the sigils, and the mention of black entities in the latest Miles Johnson video, hence the question.)
Plus if doorways/portholes are opening between realms are hunter task forces being utilized in this realm plus other realms? Are Beings in other realms being captured, retrieved for genetic material?

Also Ron Adams spoke of having certain abilities which he attributed to his connection to ETs. When listening to Ron's description of his abilities it sound to me as though he was tweaked for the purpose of being able to sense and possibly identify certain types of entities.

If I may ask, is the issue of the occult, in regards to portholes and those ETs & Humans delving within the dark arts/shadow/spook world and the myriad of entities existing therein, an 'off-limits' area?

All the Best
Ara


No topic area is off limits now, free reign............:original:

[James Casbolt]

So Lincoln thought this Anu male was from Norway or maybe Sweden. This male was very tall, slim, with an athletic build and very pale with silver/white hair. He weighed around one hundred and ninety pounds and was round 6 feet 5 inches tall. Very calm, very handsome and very disiciplined. During the consultation sessions Lincoln was struck by the complex and extensive knowledge this being had on the subjects on discussion. This was Lincoln's first meeting with this individual and he assumed he was human. The US Government staff were introduced to this male as Dr Aanerrson ( the first "A" in the name beign a long Scandinavian "ah" ).

[iainl140285]

No topic area is off limits now, free reign............:original:

Free reign.

Well, a long time ago Barry was pressed on the issue of the use of children as test subjects, but was advised to leave that alone for the time being.

So, does it STILL happen? Are people still being used in the facilities? Do you have numbers? A selection procedure? The probable outcome that they come out un-harmed?

Do you have lists of active facilities?

Regards
Iain

[Helvetic]

So Lincoln thought this Anu male was from Norway or maybe Sweden. This male was very tall, slim, with an athletic build and very pale with silver/white hair. He weighed around one hundred and ninety pounds and was round 6 feet 5 inches tall. Very calm, very handsome and very disiciplined. During the consultation sessions Lincoln was struck by the complex and extensive knowledge this being had on the subjects on discussion. This was Lincoln's first meeting with this individual and he assumed he was human. The US Government staff were introduced to this male as Dr Aanerrson ( the first "A" in the name beign a long Scandinavian "ah" ).

Im wondering if there is a picture available from Dr. Aanerrson?

[THEWATCHER]

Free reign.

Well, a long time ago Barry was pressed on the issue of the use of children as test subjects, but was advised to leave that alone for the time being.

So, does it STILL happen? Are people still being used in the facilities? Do you have numbers? A selection procedure? The probable outcome that they come out un-harmed?

Do you have lists of active facilities?

Regards
Iain

The use of civilians within the facilities for genetics, mindcontrolling technologies, Milab operations, yes, requires mostly adult but some children also, withing the Milab procedures, NOT as far as we are aware for more insidious procedures. Numbers are unavailable to us both UK and US figures alone would reach into the hundreds per quarter for all procedures. Vast majority will leave with no lasting effects other than some mind trauma and eventually PTSD. We can perhaps try and obtain active facility listings.

[iainl140285]

The use of civilians within the facilities for genetics, mindcontrolling technologies, Milab operations, yes, requires mostly adult but some children also, withing the Milab procedures, NOT as far as we are aware for more insidious procedures. Numbers are unavailable to us both UK and US figures alone would reach into the hundreds per quarter for all procedures. Vast majority will leave with no lasting effects other than some mind trauma and eventually PTSD. We can perhaps try and obtain active facility listings.


Thank you - much appreciated :thumb_yello:

Can you advise the name of the branch responsible, i.e. Our recognised forces ar Army/Navy/RAF etc. Is there a branch specifically assigned?

Does this branch still fall under the military cat.?
If so, do they have their own designated bases or do they share?

[THEWATCHER]

Posted for simply interests sake, and member reactions possibly....
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/06/femawebpagemartiallawforeigntroops.html

http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

[Ara]

No topic area is off limits now, free reign............:original:

Thanks, that is good to read. So, We have free reign to ask questions, now in a perfect world you would have free reign to answer them. LOL

Hmm, Time to dream a perfect world into existence. :original:

All the Best
Ara

[Christo888]

Thanks, that is good to read. So, We have free reign to ask questions, now in a perfect world you would have free reign to answer them. LOL

Hmm, Time to dream a perfect world into existence. :original:

All the Best
Ara

I second that! :thumb_yello:

[Christo888]

Posted for simply interests sake, and member reactions possibly....
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/06/femawebpagemartiallawforeigntroops.html

http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

Excuse me for invading your post but I couldn't help but have to re-read this sentence several times in the 'FEMA' website that you posted the link too. I did already copy and save the entire article in case they change it.


"... The NLE 09 scenario will begin in the aftermath of a notional terrorist event outside of the United States, and exercise play will center on preventing subsequent efforts by the terrorists to enter the United States and carry out additional attacks. This scenario enables participating senior officials to focus on issues related to preventing terrorist events domestically and protecting U.S. critical infrastructure.

NLE 09 will allow terrorism prevention efforts to proceed to a logical end (successful or not), with no requirement for response or recovery activities..."


So does this infer that the gov't already knows that a terrorist act will occur before the July 2009 date of these exercises?

If so, then may the unknown become known for the highest and best good of all. a penny for your thoughts.

[enemyofNWO]

Excuse me for invading your post but I couldn't help but have to re-read this sentence several times in the 'FEMA' website that you posted the link too. I did already copy and save the entire article in case they change it.


"... The NLE 09 scenario will begin in the aftermath of a notional terrorist event outside of the United States, and exercise play will center on preventing subsequent efforts by the terrorists to enter the United States and carry out additional attacks. This scenario enables participating senior officials to focus on issues related to preventing terrorist events domestically and protecting U.S. critical infrastructure.

NLE 09 will allow terrorism prevention efforts to proceed to a logical end (successful or not), with no requirement for response or recovery activities..."


So does this infer that the gov't already knows that a terrorist act will occur before the July 2009 date of these exercises?

If so, then may the unknown become known for the highest and best good of all. a penny for your thoughts.

The most shocking part is
" Rumors of foreign troops on our soil have been circulated for a long time. BUT this is not a rumor. It is a blatant fact as stated by FEMA on their government website. THIS IS AN INVASION "

Presumably when the SHTF foreign troops would replace the local police which won't be any longer reliable due to the circumstances like trying to find
food when the shelves of the supermarket are empty . Under the conditions the foreign troops theoretically would have no scruples in shooting the local population . At least twice (that we know of ) the secrets services have used the ruse of a training exercise for staging black operations . The 9/11 and the London bombing come to mind .
Are those two links giving us a hint of things to come ?

[James Casbolt]

Im wondering if there is a picture available from Dr. Aanerrson?

No picture available of Dr Aanerrson at this time

[Kari Lynn]

If someone were to see one of these beings, would they be able to fit a description of being someone who was an albino?
I remember seeing someone like that when I was young.

[Lorien]

"... The NLE 09 scenario will begin in the aftermath of a notional terrorist event outside of the United States, and exercise play will center on preventing subsequent efforts by the terrorists to enter the United States and carry out additional attacks. This scenario enables participating senior officials to focus on issues related to preventing terrorist events domestically and protecting U.S. critical infrastructure.

NLE 09 will allow terrorism prevention efforts to proceed to a logical end (successful or not), with no requirement for response or recovery activities..."


So does this infer that the gov't already knows that a terrorist act will occur before the July 2009 date of these exercises?

If so, then may the unknown become known for the highest and best good of all. a penny for your thoughts.

The exercise isn't happening after an ACTUAL terrorist event, the scenario will be that a theoretical event just happened, and the response to it.

[James Casbolt]

If someone were to see one of these beings, would they be able to fit a description of being someone who was an albino?
I remember seeing someone like that when I was young.

Yes they do look like Abinos. Another source ( wife of ex NSA member ) had contact with these beings in the US and told me they had 'cybernetic' voices and surgery scars in the throat area were some kind of commuinication boxes had been installed

[James Casbolt]

To carry on with Lincoln's account-

It was not until the second meeting with Dr Aanserrson that he suspected something strange was occuring. Even though this being appeared human he carried himself in a way of intellectual superiority. He made scientists working on projects in the facility who were educated at the finest colleges and universities appear as schoolchildren during consultation and lectures.

At the second meeting Dr Aanserrson had red eyes while the first time lincoln had seen him, his eyes were blue. This was either due to contact lenses or shapeshifting Lincoln told me. This is what alarmed him most. Also during the second meeting there was small talk as to where they were all from and when Dr Aanserrson was asked ( most in the working group assumed a Scandinavian origin ) he stumbled around a reply. He seemed to struggle to identify a place or a town and after appearing confused for a moment, replied in a soft but authoritive voice- "We should not discuss such things". They assumed they offended him and the subject was dropped.

The third meeting was in a new location and more interesting circumstances developed. Lincoln was transferred to another place for the same project and told his "consultants" would meet them for a briefing. When the consultants arrived there was Dr Aanerrson and two other beings of the same appearance. There was one male and one slightly shorter female that closely resembled the photograph on this thread, but had longer hair pulled into a pony tail with a metal ring. The two other beings were introduced as "special assistants" for a briefing and lecture.

Lincoln told me the thing that struck him at first was the non-verbal comm between this beings. By this he meant that after Dr Aanerrson spoke to government personnel he would direct the other two by just looking at them. Lincoln assumed this was telepathy after seeing it a few times.

More to follow

[no caste]

The exercise isn't happening after an ACTUAL terrorist event, the scenario will be that a theoretical event just happened, and the response to it.

It's true that military exercises are normal, and that often there's international cooperation for them, BUT (it's a BIG but!!)... there was a synchronization of 'exercises' with both the 9/11 and the London subway attacks.

NY9/11/01: "Several different war game exercises were in play on the day of the attack. The limited public information on these exercises shows that they simulated the following events:
* Hijackings
* Attacks on buildings using aircraft as missiles
* Attacks using toxic or infectious substances
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/defense/wargames.html

UK7/7/05: Search results vs content on page
"The 7 July 2005 London bombings (also called the 7/7 bombings) were a series of .... So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real. ... Forensic examiners had initially thought that military grade plastic ...... Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway injured far more people (12 dead, 1000+ injured). ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B2GGGL_enCA207CA207&q=july+2005+london+subway+military+exercises&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
www.answers.com/topic/7-july-2005-london-bombings

No mention of exercises on yahoo page (Last updated: July 03, 2007.)
http://www.answers.com/topic/7-july-2005-london-bombings

[no caste]

Also during the second meeting there was small talk as to where they were all from and when Dr Aanserrson was asked ( most in the working group assumed a Scandinavian origin ) he stumbled around a reply.

I think he ate too much GM (genetically modified) food - a faulty memory. :smoke:

[no caste]

The use of civilians within the facilities for genetics, mindcontrolling technologies, Milab operations, yes, requires mostly adult but some children also, withing the Milab procedures, NOT as far as we are aware for more insidious procedures. Numbers are unavailable to us both UK and US figures alone would reach into the hundreds per quarter for all procedures. Vast majority will leave with no lasting effects other than some mind trauma and eventually PTSD. We can perhaps try and obtain active facility listings.

Watcher - As for the children, are they mostly kidnapped?

Thank you

[Helvetic]

o-o
UFO disclosure June 2009 timetable revealed

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

In regards to my previous article I have been inundated with emails, mostly of a positive nature from readers noting that my version of events gels with theirs.
Some have been sceptical or downright negative. I should clarify that by 'Invasion' I do not mean an 'Independence Day' scenario.

The bottom-line reality is that the world stands at the cusp of open first contact. Admittance of definitive knowledge of an alien presence on earth by the governments of the world's major nations is literally days away. And that is a certainty. Disclosure, however, will be gradual. It is, in fact, already happening.

Over the next few days these events will occur:

NASA will finally admit that it has 'some evidence' that aliens might be monitoring earth and that it is seriously researching UFO events.
There will be an admittance by another government agency or relevant organization that there is reason to believe that some signals that have been picked up by radio telescope are probably of alien origin
The government of a major European nation will outright admit having knowledge of UFOs visiting our planet.
We are living in very exciting times. Yes, many are fearful of what open contact might mean. however others look to the very near future with anticipation and intense curiosity.

We are about to discover things about ourselves and the universe that are going to completely alter our very sense of being and existence.

[enemyofNWO]

Thanks Helvetic for your encouraging post .
I find it bit strange this snippet " There will be an admittance by another government agency or relevant organization that there is reason to believe that some signals that have been picked up by radio telescope are probably of alien origin " . I have reason to believe that radio waves are " slow " when we talk about planetary or galactic communications as a matter of fact useless is more accurate . Who uses " radio communication " hasn't got a superior technology then what is is commercially available now , unless it was designed to be detected by us . Have you heard of the " non locality " effect as the base of instant comunication ? Henry Deacon , if the memory serves me well ,mentioned this effect in one of his interviews on project Camelot .

Cheers

[James Casbolt]

Operations lab at Oak Ridge


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Oak Ridge operations lab 2

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Lincoln told that all the pieces fell into place after working late one evening with Dr Aanerrson and the female neing. Having only worked with her a short time he assumed she could not speak english and Lincoln never attempted comm with her except for a "hello" upon her entry into the room. She always replied with a smile and a nod. Lincoln never heard verbal comm from the female the entire time he worked with her.

After a short break and snack Lincoln returned to the room with the female and the doctor and upon entry noticed a large man, or what he thought was a manin the room with the other two individuals.. He was already past UMBRA security doors and there was no guard to stop him from entering. He basically walked right upon them. He looked up to notice this no man at all but a very large lizard-like creature that walked bipedal!

This being had two arms and two legs and appeared human-like, but the face was reptilian and mossy green. This being flinched as Lincoln entered as he assumed he had startled the being. There were no words spoken and the female being turned and looked Lincoln in the eyes and the lizard being turned to leave the room out another door ( the room had three doors ).

More to come

[Ara]

There is a recent article at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525695,00.html regarding a nearby star which may be getting ready to go supernova. (since perception is relative to proximity what we view as just happening has already occurred)
QUOTE from article :It's possible we're observing the beginning of Betelgeuse's final collapse now.
If so, the star, which is 600 light-years away, will already have exploded — and we'll soon be in for a spectacular, and perfectly safe, interstellar fireworks show.


Are the effects of supernova on the redirection of doors both cosmic and perceptional taken into account when the machine computes probable futures?


All the Best
Ara

[James Casbolt]

There is a recent article at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525695,00.html regarding a nearby star which may be getting ready to go supernova. (since perception is relative to proximity what we view as just happening has already occurred)
QUOTE from article :It's possible we're observing the beginning of Betelgeuse's final collapse now.
If so, the star, which is 600 light-years away, will already have exploded — and we'll soon be in for a spectacular, and perfectly safe, interstellar fireworks show.


Are the effects of supernova on the redirection of doors both cosmic and perceptional taken into account when the machine computes probable futures?


All the Best
Ara

Thank you for this information Ara. While on the subject of stars, I can confirm that the 'Albino' Annunaki that Lincoln came into contact with are from the Sirius star system. It is actaully a binary star system wit a small ignited gaseous planet ( appears to be a third sun ).

The stars are

1) Sothi ( or Suthisi )

2) Safais

3) Anu ( gaseous burning planet )

These beings are from a planet near the star Sothi. The planet is called Sothi 3. These beings also inhabit several other planets in the Sirius system. There is a heirarchy of sorts when it comes to choice of home in that system. There is a large R&D and propulsion factory/lab on Sothi 3. This is where their craft and travel systems are produced.

A personnel exchange exchange program is in place between these beings and factions of our governments. Heavy involvement with US Naval Space Command, Department of Navy, Majestic and other groups involved. Humans are regulary transferred to these planets. Many times a clone is left in place and the Annunaki are able 'download' themselves into the cloned body and 'wear' the new body to experience life on earth first hand. The memories of the previous individual are worn by the new lifeform to pass themselves off as human. The PPU ( Psychological Program Unit-Tripseat ) chair can record an individuals life timetrack on video, download and transfer data. Some people are walking around with a 'double-track'. Namely they are wearing their own memories with the memories of another downloaded on top. The key is to seperate the two tracks and discover what the truth of the own lives are. Interestingly enough the PPU unit can scan past lives and the technicians watch previous lives of the individual on video. According to recently disclosed files of mine, a previous scan of me revealed a past life in Greece and I started talking Greek on the chair. This is all connected. I was around from the time of Atlantis over 10,000 years ago when the exchange program with the Aldeberan Aryans was taking place with human atlantean government. I remember all this very clearly. The Sirians were heavily involved then and like members of the Montauk project such as Duncan Cameron, I did not take normal incarnational cycles. We are talking life extension, transference of conciousness and cloning being used back then. Past life regression has revealed the following- My cycle progressed as following ( this is only my earthn history, it goes back much further on other planets )

1) Atlantis

2) Himalayas

3) Mesopotamia and Kaish

4) Greece

5) France

6) Scotland

7) Cornwall

More details below-



I am a fallen angel

I am a son of Fire

I come from the time of the sinking of Atlantis

This was the Great Flood

I was decieved by Lucifer, the Light Bearer

I was once a lieutenant of Azazel

Chief over the Order of Bene-elim

I was incarnated into flesh during the time Atlantis was invaded

I became a 'Man-Spirit'

I walked amongst Annunaki and other star races in the ancient days

Certain star races corrupted the people of Atlantis

I was born into a human body created by the Annunaki

I come from Nephilim bloodline

Many great leaders descend from this ancient stock

We are compassionate and glorious

Some of us are evil and selfish

We are the original mystics and romantics

We are Zion

Some of us stayed loyal to the Light Bearer

Many of us, after realising our deception, united with the Confederated Galactic Councils

We sought grace over thousands of years and incarnations on Terra

We sought the Elohim

The human government destroyed Atlantis by accepting flase gifts from the Star races

Also with the help from the Melchizedek priests who had been corrupted

The Order of Merlin tried to save me but I was in too deep

I left my physical vessal at this time and many of the Great White Brotherhood travelled to our base in the Himalayas

My soul still aches from this event

Much needed rest took place in our Abode in the Clouds

The war had to go on- when can we stop?

Onto the plains of Mesoptomia we traveled

I was a member of the Tribe of Dan at this time

I was known as the 'Leader of the Hills'

We carried on the wars with our fallen Nephilim brothers

Eventially we escaped the Middle-East and headed to Greece

New bodies were acquired again

I was a commander of the Spartan army at this time

My military might growing stronger with each battle from the time of Atlantis

The Nephilim war raged on and blood spilled onward

All the way up into Rome and France

Here I was a Merovingian Priest-King

We had learnt to settle our conflicts in a more honourable way by this time

We had our death matches in the Pont De L'Alma tunnel

Glorious man to man matches

From France to Scotland took our wandering tribe

Here I was an 'Illuminated' warrior of the ? Celtic Clan

The year is now 2008 and I am over 26,000 years old

I now dwell in the land of King Arthur

Michael Prince of Aldebaran

[James Casbolt]

When my daughter was born I named her Kaisha. I could not remember hearing the word before. Later I discovered the Tribe of Dan were located in the area of the Middle-East known as 'Kaish'.

I had never heard the term 'Leader of the Hills' before either, so I did some research on this. What I found was very interesting.

In the ancient Mayan text called the 'Troano Manuscript' it talks about the sinking of Atlantis when 64 million people died and calls Atlantis 'The country of the Hills of Earth'. It also appears to refer to the lost tribes of Isreal which came to the middle-east from Atlantis after the Great Flood. The text is as follows-

'In the year 6 Kan, on the 11 Muluc, in the month of Zac, there occured terrific earthquakes which continued until the 13 Chuen without interruption. The country of the hills of earth... was sacrificed.
Being twice upheaved, it dissappeared during the night, being constantly shaken by the fires of the underneath. Being confined, these caused the land to rise and sink several times in various places.
As the last surface gave way the ten tribes were torn asunder and scattered. They sank with their 64,000,000 inhabitants'.

[James Casbolt]

The following information is relevant ( bear in mind that 'Anu' may be a title for a group of beings. This seems to be the case with 'Jesus' and 'Merlin' as well

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I fear if we as a brotherhood cannot let go of our addiction to war and radiation, a nuclear war will be inevitable.

It is interesting now that I look at the symbols of the Unitied Grand Lodge of English Freemasonry and understand them. Firstly I see the Ark of the Covenent. From my understanding the Annunaki leader 'Anu' ordered Abraham to carry a glowing element ( Uranium ) in a wooden box ( possibly the Ark of the Covenent ) from Ur ( the ancient city of Sumer located on the Euphrates River ) and deposit this element in the Temple of Soloman. There was great fear generated by this element. I estimate this would have occured at the end of the third millenium B.C and would have been a method of mass mind control.

As you know radiation has the power to control minds. Anu had complete control over the known world at one point in history. I cannot tell others what to do, only speak for myself. The time has now come for me to only work with stable forms of radiation and purge all forms of unstable radiation that have built up in my mind and body. My goal is now to infuse my mind and body with stable electro-magnetic energy. When emotions- fear, anger, guilt etc become denser than our physical bodies, we are greatly weakened. A negative thought actaully has physical weight. This gets back to Uranium again. Our emotional bodies must 'quicken' and raise to the vibrational frequency of Uranium. Thereby dissolving engramic blocks in our bodies and allowing the free flow of chi around our bodies. Hence our emotional bodies become lighter than our physical bodies. I have to wonder whether Anu deposited the Uranium in the temple and city structures to ultimately raise the vibration of Humanity.

[James Casbolt]

The areas in the middle-east being discussed are deserts today because of the nuclear wars between the Watchers at the time. Before this time the Garden of Eden was a lush forest area.

Whole planets in the Alebaran star system are now desert because of this war. Many of the Aryan warriors from this sector have moved to the planet of Taygeta in the Pleiades now the ancient war is drawing to a close.

Lincoln tells me this has been a great and ancient war ( probably over a million years old ). Very complex indeed, involving numerous species. He says it scattered the Sirian Annunaki to several planets. This explains their genetic relationships to other Annunaki and their apperance differing greatly he says. From Alibino, to human-like, to lizard-like and even shapeshifter. This is evolution at it's best. One solid species breaking apart into several other evolved species. Some of these beings growing sinister and greedy, while others growing into peaceful spiritual beings.

[James Casbolt]

Pic below shows Lincoln's genetic upgrade and life-extension proceedure which took place at Oak Ridge last year. This shows the injection site where alien related nano-tech was put into his body ( a type of serum ). Lincoln was strapped into one of the seats at the time and as the nanites made their way to his brain he convulsed for approx five mintutes.

[James Casbolt]

http://http://www.tobinmueller.com/artsforge/gallery_new/portraits/merlin.jpg

[James Casbolt]

881

[James Casbolt]

The drawing above is of 'Merlin'. I'm trying to enlarge the photo below that shows The Watcher and I together in my flat in St Ives. A holographic face appears on my upper left thigh when the photo was developed. Can be seen very clearly when enlarged. There are connections to this phenomiom and the Merlin beings which I will expand on soon.

882

[sleepingnomore]

James,

Thank you for posting all this information. I believe I saw the image on your thigh in a photo you posted in your thread. It was very interesting, indeed.

I too believe that "ANU" refers to a race of beings or a particular position within a race.

[Kari Lynn]

The drawing above is of 'Merlin'. I'm trying to enlarge the photo below that shows The Watcher and I together in my flat in St Ives. A holographic face appears on my upper left thigh when the photo was developed. Can be seen very clearly when enlarged. There are connections to this phenomiom and the Merlin beings which I will expand on soon.

882
Interesting.
I had a simular incident that happened when a photograph was taken of me with a special AURA camara at a Phychic Fair. Totally shocked the camera man, as he said that had never happened before.
I will have to see if I still have the photo somewhere, but may be lost now.
I have a white face that appears in the space above my shoulder. (right shoulder I think.) Appears simularly like a negative. White on black. With a goatie, and mustach. Gave me chills.

You do live in the UK, right? hmmm
I've had this happen with the watcher, and few of his friends. People here I work with are exact duplicates or could be twin. I work with a man who looks exactly like you, except no tattoos.
This just gets stranger. lol

[Ara]

I too believe that "ANU" refers to a race of beings or a particular position within a race.

A race of Beings and a particular position within a race?

The ones who sit on the throne take the name of their Logos Anu? Akin to 'the currently sitting pope'?

All the Best
Ara

[sleepingnomore]

Maybe I should have phrased it "faction". I believe there is a faction of the Annunnaki who are known as ANUs, named after "the ANU".

[THEWATCHER]

Warming up nicely around the Disclosure arena......YouTube - France UFO Disclosure French Government Aliens UFOs Latest News.

[THEWATCHER]

Questions will be answered in due course, The Watcher will be returning in a few days as health stabilised sufficiently

[Ara]

James Quote:
Thank you for this information Ara. While on the subject of stars, I can confirm that the 'Albino' Annunaki that Lincoln came into contact with are from the Sirius star system.
It is actually a binary star system with a small ignited gaseous planet ( appears to be a third sun ).



You are welcome James. :) Many thanks for the information you've shared above.

May I ask why you sought the Elohim?

And are you able to reveal more information regarding the Order of Merlin?

All the Best
Ara

[Ara]

Posted for simply interests sake, and member reactions possibly....
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/tar...igntroops.html (http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/06/femawebpagemartiallawforeigntroops.html)

http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

and

03-22-2009, 03:15 AM
Unverified at this time but whispers along corridor suggesting that covert placement of UN marked vehicles, of several types, are being transported into certain specific US military facilities via rail and road. Using flatbed trucks, ordinary looking 18 wheel rigs and covered with tarps on railroad cars. New Mexico is one of the locations whispered so far.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106&page=39


Are these connected?

[sleepingnomore]

[/I][/B]03-22-2009, 03:15 AM
Unverified at this time but whispers along corridor suggesting that covert placement of UN marked vehicles, of several types, are being transported into certain specific US military facilities via rail and road. Using flatbed trucks, ordinary looking 18 wheel rigs and covered with tarps on railroad cars. New Mexico is one of the locations whispered so far.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106&page=39


Are these connected?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if they're connected but perhaps the subject of this thread is a cover for the later:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14702

[THEWATCHER]

Support Bill and Kerry, listen each Tuesday and Thursday, times vary


http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/index.html


Unnofficial banner, I have a cheek,but hope they like the attempt :original:


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/whistleblowerbanner1newer.jpg

Barry

[Ara]

Welcome back Barry. Hope all is well with you. :flowers2:

An appropriate banner, :) maybe Bill and Kerry will use it.

All the Best
Ara

[Helvetic]

Hey Barry, welcome back! :cheers:

Yes let's do a little graphic competition, LOL!

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4503/bannerwhisleblowerradio.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/bannerwhisleblowerradio.jpg/)

[THEWATCHER]

Hiya guys:original:, thankyou for the warm welcome, hope you are both well, yeah, like that, hows about a competition re banner designs? Sure Bill and Kerry would love the input:original: Looks like much to catch up on here so will take me a bit of time. Using their term yeah i pried the door open, they went further and took the blooming door away, now they have shoved me thru the disclosure door LOL LOL LOL

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

From time to time I am given material to peruse, sometimes this includes film material, and I'm told it is pertinent or relevent to me for whatever reasons that will become clear to me after viewing said materials. Previously they have included the movie film "Shooter". This time I was handed a disc called "Push" and told to watch. I have done so and place links here for those whom might be interested in this movie. I make no comments at this time though.

http://ontheflix.com/2009/01/23/another-push-2009-movie-poster-synopsis/

http://www.spout.com/films/Push/345365/default.aspx

http://www.tribute.ca/movies/Push/18015

http://www.canmag.com/movies.php?moviekey=push


Barry:original:

[sleepingnomore]

I don't mean to change the subject but since I am unable to watch video at this time I'd like to bring up another area.

Alex Chistopher author of Pandora's Box stated in an interview (linked at end):

AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of people who have been anducted, and the one common denominator seems to be the blood line, and its the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native American blood lines.

Do you have any information or can you verify this statement?

excerpt from:
http://www.detailshere.com/tunnels.htm

[Humble Janitor]

I don't mean to change the subject but since I am unable to watch video at this time I'd like to bring up another area.

Alex Chistopher author of Pandora's Box stated in an interview (linked at end):

AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of people who have been anducted, and the one common denominator seems to be the blood line, and its the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native American blood lines.

Do you have any information or can you verify this statement?

excerpt from:
http://www.detailshere.com/tunnels.htm

Interesting as I have Native American blood and strong bloodlines. Can't recall being abducted though.

[THEWATCHER]

LOL guess looks like Bill and Kerry have their own logo, ah well:original:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/camelot_radio_logo_sm.gif

Barry

[Kari Lynn]

"Push"
Just from the previews, I noticed a few things that seemed.... 'familiar' to some things I have experienced, and heard of.
Seems movies do bring about some disclosure of their own at times.

Movie I watched on the TV few days ago seemed quite interesting and familiar too.
As I came into the middle of it. I have no idea what the name of it was, and missed more than half of it.
But the basic plot was that an entire planet was distroyed by united planetary (human) government and the reason was........ because the people that populated the planet were humans that migrated there from earth. but.... the sun of that little planet did something to speed up the evalution of man. Which caused them to have quite a few PSI abilities. Capable of God like miracles, or mass destruction.
Which would cause them to be a danger to the government, as they would be stronger, uncontrollable, etc... able to destroy the human government with simply a thought. So they destroyed them with man made/induced solar flare which killed the entire population. EXCEPT for one woman who escaped as a child, which they were hunting down in the movie to exterminate as she could blow the entire cover up for them.
She of course because of the trama she suffered as a child surviving that, and seeing everyone dead, had amnesia. Couldn't remember who, or what she was, or that she had special "gifts" Until after watching a Cd of information about it, and then she had a flash back, and started using it to kick BUTT! lol.


About the Native American, or ancient indian blood lines. I to have quite a bit of native american blood line. As well as English, French, Scotts or Irish, and lots of Polish! Hence the reason my hubby calls me "red headed polock!" lol But I'm probably more Native American than anything. Had a great grandmother that was full blood.

[James Casbolt]

From time to time I am given material to peruse, sometimes this includes film material, and I'm told it is pertinent or relevent to me for whatever reasons that will become clear to me after viewing said materials. Previously they have included the movie film "Shooter". This time I was handed a disc called "Push" and told to watch. I have done so and place links here for those whom might be interested in this movie. I make no comments at this time though.

http://ontheflix.com/2009/01/23/another-push-2009-movie-poster-synopsis/

http://www.spout.com/films/Push/345365/default.aspx

http://www.tribute.ca/movies/Push/18015

http://www.canmag.com/movies.php?moviekey=push


Barry:original:

It was recently suggested to me that I watch the movie 'Push' as well. Have not had a chance to view yet but something to do with PSI spies from my understanding

[James Casbolt]

A race of Beings and a particular position within a race?

The ones who sit on the throne take the name of their Logos Anu? Akin to 'the currently sitting pope'?

All the Best
Ara

Watch for large scale involvement with the Catholic Church on the Sirian Annunaki disclosures in the future. Connections to Nibiru here too!

[James Casbolt]

James Quote:
Thank you for this information Ara. While on the subject of stars, I can confirm that the 'Albino' Annunaki that Lincoln came into contact with are from the Sirius star system.
It is actually a binary star system with a small ignited gaseous planet ( appears to be a third sun ).



You are welcome James. :) Many thanks for the information you've shared above.

May I ask why you sought the Elohim?

And are you able to reveal more information regarding the Order of Merlin?

All the Best
Ara

Why did we seek the Elohim? This is a deeply esoteric area and I feel it does it no justice to expand with typed words on a screen. This type of disclosure is reserved more for 'planetary celebrations' in the future when the 'Lightmasters' return. Certain people have been groomed for the return of the Watchers from childhood and will be called to meetings with these beings at the time of the Arrival.

All I can say at this time is that the Elohim are 'Creator Gods' that the ancient warriors mentioned in the text, lost contact with during the wars mentioned.

[James Casbolt]

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/grandlodge/seal/ugle.jpg

[James Casbolt]

Symbol of English Grand Lodge of Freemasonry

AUDI-VIDE-TACE

Listen, Watch and keep quite

[14 Chakras]

All I can say at this time is that the Elohim are 'Creator Gods' that the ancient warriors mentioned in the text, lost contact with during the wars mentioned.


There is a true hiearchy and a false hiearchy. The true hiearchy, and true Elohim do not require spaceships to get around, they are not geneticist.

They do reside in the spiritual realm and their consciousness is literally expressed as Suns, planetary bodies and space itself. They are personifications of the infinite, of God, and they are in Oneness with all life. They are the true, unconditionally loving, teachers of the souls of planet earth. As our soul progresses through the schoolroom of the universe, our conscious Self can eventually attain the enlightenment of the Elohim (over very many many many years), as we were created in their image.

The false elohim are aliens of some sort, fallen beings who claim to be creators. According to what you say here, it appears as though their may be some planned 'appearance' by these fallen beings at some point to hoodwink humanity into thinking they are our creators. That being said, it is certainly possible that this false hiearchy of alien geneticist manipulated humanities DNA in the distant past to try and stop us from connecting to our own spiritual talents and God centers within. They did not create, but they may have manipulated for their own nefarious ends.

Whereas, humanity is truly created in the infinite's image by the spiritual hiearchy, as individualization's of themselves. Not by some crappy aliens who are going to 'reveal' themselves at some point as 'God's' who are here to save us or whatnot.

The true Elohim work through our own consciousness, the false elohim work from outside of us.

The true Elohim are beings of infinite unconditional love, and it is true we lost contact with them outwardly, but that's only because we fell in vibration, not because they took off with their space ships or whatnot... that's the false hiearchy who did that. The true Elohim have never left us, we've just fallen under the veil where we feel separated from them, from the infinite, from our higher Self.

We are now going to regain contact with the true Elohim, as we overcome the veil, and this will happen within our own consciousness, not outside of it.

[Ara]

Watch for large scale involvement with the Catholic Church on the Sirian Annunaki disclosures in the future. Connections to Nibiru here too!

Sounds as though there are some interesting times coming down the pike. :original:

Why did we seek the Elohim? This is a deeply esoteric area and I feel it does it no justice to expand with typed words on a screen.

This type of disclosure is reserved more for 'planetary celebrations' in the future when the 'Lightmasters' return.

Certain people have been groomed for the return of the Watchers from childhood and will be called to meetings with these beings at the time of the Arrival.

All I can say at this time is that the Elohim are 'Creator Gods' that the ancient warriors mentioned in the text, lost contact with during the wars mentioned. James, Many thanks for the reply.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[James Casbolt]

There is a true hiearchy and a false hiearchy. The true hiearchy, and true Elohim do not require spaceships to get around, they are not geneticist.

They do reside in the spiritual realm and their consciousness is literally expressed as Suns, planetary bodies and space itself. They are personifications of the infinite, of God, and they are in Oneness with all life. They are the true, unconditionally loving, teachers of the souls of planet earth. As our soul progresses through the schoolroom of the universe, our conscious Self can eventually attain the enlightenment of the Elohim (over very many many many years), as we were created in their image.

The false elohim are aliens of some sort, fallen beings who claim to be creators. According to what you say here, it appears as though their may be some planned 'appearance' by these fallen beings at some point to hoodwink humanity into thinking they are our creators. That being said, it is certainly possible that this false hiearchy of alien geneticist manipulated humanities DNA in the distant past to try and stop us from connecting to our own spiritual talents and God centers within. They did not create, but they may have manipulated for their own nefarious ends.

Whereas, humanity is truly created in the infinite's image by the spiritual hiearchy, as individualization's of themselves. Not by some crappy aliens who are going to 'reveal' themselves at some point as 'God's' who are here to save us or whatnot.

The true Elohim work through our own consciousness, the false elohim work from outside of us.

The true Elohim are beings of infinite unconditional love, and it is true we lost contact with them outwardly, but that's only because we fell in vibration, not because they took off with their space ships or whatnot... that's the false hiearchy who did that. The true Elohim have never left us, we've just fallen under the veil where we feel separated from them, from the infinite, from our higher Self.

We are now going to regain contact with the true Elohim, as we overcome the veil, and this will happen within our own consciousness, not outside of it.

I agree- the Elohim are 12 creators outside of time and space. They are not physical ET's. They are not Sirian Annunaki

[James Casbolt]

The Elohim are our higher selves. Too much war and a being loses contact with their higher self which seeks peace.

[James Casbolt]

To the Birdbrains,

Bluebirds don't hear, see or talk. It appears mistakes were made with Ibis and Henman. I heard an mk whisper and it made me reflect.

[James Casbolt]

Please do not think I have all the answers, I need help too.

I have a question for you guys out there. Anyone heard of a sensory deprivation test where a subject is put in a lead box to cut them off from telepathic contact with beings who would help them? They are then left there for long perios of time

[James Casbolt]

A human being is a spirit wearing a mind and body

Look beyond your mind to discover your identity and place in the Golden Age

At this time a combination of light and dark events are occuring on this planet

Ultimately this stage of growth is wonderful

Because this is wonderful, we are returning en-masse

We centre and gather around our planetoids in our ships

Many of our people who now work with your government are just early arrivals

Because the situation is wonderful, a new Watcher is evolving

Because of the freedom of choice on this planet, we are combining our DNA to create a new race

The bird-people, wolf-people, cat-people, and lizard-people harmonize to engineer a beautiful being who is a mixture of all parents

Can you play your part?
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Precipitation transmission from 'Metatron' on 20/6/09

Telepathic channeling transmitted from 'Central Circuit' on some kind of space fleet heading to earth. RV vectors reveal large gold coloured craft around a huge circular object. It was suggested to me not to view this object in detail. I was not told the reason why

[Helvetic]

Telepathic channeling transmitted from 'Central Circuit' on some kind of space fleet heading to earth. RV vectors reveal large gold coloured craft around a huge circular object. It was suggested to me not to view this object in detail. I was not told the reason why

This reminds me of this craft.
Could those be the spys from the same group?

YouTube - ISTANBUL KUMBURGAZ-ALIENS and UFO's ARE BACK /2009 WORLD EXCLUSIVE!

[James Casbolt]

Before I describe the 'New Watcher', the following information from 'Agent Buried Alive' needs to be included
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MICHAEL WOLF/URIEL EAGLE

8th recent encounter- 18th September 2007, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

This encounter with a non-human was different from the others as it was a kind of fully interactive vision rather than occurring in this time and space. I was in my flat that night when I experienced this vision. It was very real to me, and I could see, touch, smell and hear as clearly as I am sitting here now. I found myself standing next to a house in the countryside with a tree and stream by the house. I saw movement in one of the branches of the tree out of the corner of my eye and looked up and saw what I thought at first was a large bird.

On closer examination, I saw that it was man with large wings connected to his back and long hair. He was bare chested and was perched on the branch like a bird with his body squatted down and perfectly balanced. He looked back at me for a few seconds and then changed the position of his body to take on a pose I have seen from Yoga, called the tree pose.

He then flew off the branch like a bird and came to land on the ground in front of the tree. He stood there for a moment and then beckoned me over with his hand. I walked up to him and got a very strong sense of goodness and strength from him. When I was stood opposite him I noticed his huge wings were the same as an eagles and dark red in colour. His hair was down to his shoulders and was the same colour as his wings. He had these things connected to his body that went over his shoulders and down his chest. They looked like long thin gemstones and some were white in colour and other black in colour. He was bare-chested but had some kind of trousers or pants on with bare feet and appeared to be in his late thirties or early forties.

As we stood there regarding each other for a moment, he said to me, “this tree belongs to you, and I was hoping I could use it for a while.” I did not understand this cryptic statement and did not know what to say. He then told me he was once human. My reaction to this was to try to understand this in earthly terms, and I replied that he must have been used in Project xxxxxxxxxx and been “hybridised.” His next statement was that “xxxxxxxxxx is trying to create a God-Race of beings that are modelled after him. These beings have half-human and animal DNA,” he said.

I believe the fact that this being was on the tree when I first saw him has something to do with evolving DNA and the Kabbala. I asked if I could touch his wings and he gave me permission. They were very beautiful and silky to the touch and almost identical to an eagles as mentioned before. I then ran my hands along the long gems connected to his shoulders and chest, which felt like polished quartz crystals. He then showed me more visions in my mind’s eye at other locations. I saw a human woman who was older than this winged man. She had blond hair and was very beautiful. He told me this was his mother and seemed to communicate to this woman telepathically in my vision by telling her I “was very interesting.” He showed me visions of him flying in the sky like a bird and landing in trees. As awesome as this being was, the experience seemed very normal to me. He then told me my daughter’s psychic abilities were increasing, and he mentioned something about my mother trying to understand the truth. After this we talked about a man called Wesley Peden.

[James Casbolt]

This reminds me of this craft.
Could those be the spys from the same group?

YouTube - ISTANBUL KUMBURGAZ-ALIENS and UFO's ARE BACK /2009 WORLD EXCLUSIVE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Vdr1DKPQ0)

I do not know

[James Casbolt]

I have seen visions of the New Watcher-

A very muscular 'man' over feet feet tall with bird like wings attached to his back. He seems to be able to pull these inside the flesh in his back to appear human. His forearms and lower legs have a strip of fur than run from his elbow to his wrist in a spiral. The fur on his legs runs from his knees to his ankles in a spiral. The strip of fur is over his human skin and looks like tiger fur. The whole look of the being is beautiful and in proportion. The skin on his torso ( around his stomach and groin ) looks like snake scales. This blends into his human skin again. The wolf like parts of him appear to be centered around his head as he has two canine teeth from what I could see in his mouth like fangs. This is not frightening but seems to be connected to his warrior spirit. Apart from this his face is human.

[James Casbolt]

Project VATICAN

Sean McGann/Michael Vatican

[THEWATCHER]

Damn, due to my system being exhausted i totally forgot the radio show this evening, 23rd, and missed out on opportunity of speaking with Richard Sauder. We have emailed in the past, and have supplied him with data and sketches of the Peasemore facility tunnels. My luck!!

Barry

[James Casbolt]

Barry

Thank you for all you have done. You were the first person to bust open the nexus of evil and child abuse in Berkshire. I send you blessing and energy

watcher, watcher, never die
white face, shiny eyes

[James Casbolt]

Barry may I ask you a question?

Are you aware of the 'blood-prime' connections to the bloodline studies to locate gifted children. The NSA were looking for French bluebloods mixed with Romani Gypsy genetics in my group.

There was heavy MI-6/SIS involvement in this. Did you know the codename for MI-6 is CAROUSEL? This word connects to the Romani Gypsy tradition from my understanding. The carousel music being played in the background of the new Bases 2 DVD ( when the guy is talking about Harwell ) is a MI-6 MK trigger. Miles says this music was being played in the US as well.

Can you pass this data onto Miles please.

Do you know about the legends of werewolves never attacking the Romani Gypsies? I think the film Howling 4 ( or maybe 5 ) is based at a traveling carnival and the magicians who live there hold the secrets of shapeshifting transformations. The part in the Bases 2 DVD where they go to the hall in the countryside and the demonic voice is recorded on the camera is connected to these rituals. Didn't the guy with Miles and Lisa die after that?

See also the film '28 weeks later'- there is a scene where they are in a field with an old carnival behind them. The camera flashes to a carousel ride and a painting of Prince Charles is on the side of the ride.

More Carousel triggers!

[craig nelson]

watcher can you check out someone for me my dads father Eric nelson died in a car crash when he was 6. his mother remarried someone called stan osburn. stan said his father worked for scotland yard and was the bodyguard of the king.:mfr_omg:

James casbolt said that some sleepers were murdered around 30yrs.
Penny Wongs brother comitted suicide at 30 just after she was elected to parlimant what do you think?

ps heard Werribee park described as Hawkeys place.

[James Casbolt]

The english term 'Gypsy' comes from the Greek word 'Aigyptoi'

Connected to the belief that the Romanies originated in Egypt and were exiled as punishment for involvment with certain secret societies here

[THEWATCHER]

Yep, did it again didn't I? been busy organising for certain 'visitors' tomorrow, all blooming day, stopped finally at 9pm and then realised I'd missed the radio show again!! So little time, constant exhaustion. I apologise for not being around to respond to posts, its not deliberate I assure you. My system is shot to **** and its difficult getting here at times. Will try to do so asap before I get my butt licked LOL LOL LOL. Just tried to access the Camelot site and get this.................

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Barry

[no caste]

Please do not think I have all the answers, I need help too.

I have a question for you guys out there. Anyone heard of a sensory deprivation test where a subject is put in a lead box to cut them off from telepathic contact with beings who would help them? They are then left there for long periods of time

Hi James - I've not heard of lead box sensory deprivation in relation to telepathic help from beings. I've heard of it as protection from malevolent entities. What you describe seems terrible!

blessings

[Kari Lynn]

I've not heard of lead boxes, but I've heard somewhere (but can't remember where now) that the military had aquired many barium chambers. (I think that's what they are called. The chambers used to treat people for the benz. used for decompression.)
They used them to test if placing telepathic, or psychic persons in a deprived state would increase the psychic/telepathic abilities.
I've heard of faraday cages also, but they are made of copper.
Lead however is used to prevent electromagntic or EMP penetration.

[Jacqui D]

James my sister was put in a box like that in 1954, whilst in hospital for children who had contracted TB.
Although she always questioned this form of testing she knew it had nothing to do with her TB treatment at all.
She was taken from the hospital in a car and driven to another extremely odd hospital type building very much like the one she was in with my other two brothers.
On arrival she was asked to undress and to sit in this box, i seem to remember her saying there may have been a mirror in front of her a small one.
She had sat there most of the day from morning to evening, she was just 6 or 7 years of age, she thought they had forgot about her, but then she was allowed to leave she got dressed and was driven back to the original hospital where my brothers were.
Apart from this description she has no memory though or reason why this was done, but reading what you have said i must add here she is psychic.

[THEWATCHER]

Posted for simply interests sake, and member reactions possibly....
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/tar...igntroops.html (http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/06/femawebpagemartiallawforeigntroops.html)

http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

and

03-22-2009, 03:15 AM
Unverified at this time but whispers along corridor suggesting that covert placement of UN marked vehicles, of several types, are being transported into certain specific US military facilities via rail and road. Using flatbed trucks, ordinary looking 18 wheel rigs and covered with tarps on railroad cars. New Mexico is one of the locations whispered so far.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106&page=39


Are these connected?

Nope, not connected as far as sources state

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

I don't mean to change the subject but since I am unable to watch video at this time I'd like to bring up another area.

Alex Chistopher author of Pandora's Box stated in an interview (linked at end):

AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of people who have been anducted, and the one common denominator seems to be the blood line, and its the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native American blood lines.

Do you have any information or can you verify this statement?

excerpt from:
http://www.detailshere.com/tunnels.htm

This bloodline aspect keeps being brought up, Even though there are a higher than average number of abductees within a specific blood type, within the continental United States, but that would be explainable by genetics and generations to a degree. I have researched and personally investigated many many hundreds of abductees Globally and the pattern of blood type/lines does not support a wholly singular bloodline

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Please do not think I have all the answers, I need help too.

I have a question for you guys out there. Anyone heard of a sensory deprivation test where a subject is put in a lead box to cut them off from telepathic contact with beings who would help them? They are then left there for long perios of time

James, that was fairly standard part of testing procedures in the 1950's and 1960's

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Barry

Thank you for all you have done. You were the first person to bust open the nexus of evil and child abuse in Berkshire. I send you blessing and energy

watcher, watcher, never die
white face, shiny eyes

Much more yet to come James, as long as those pesky SOBs keep off my back

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Barry may I ask you a question?

Are you aware of the 'blood-prime' connections to the bloodline studies to locate gifted children. The NSA were looking for French bluebloods mixed with Romani Gypsy genetics in my group.

There was heavy MI-6/SIS involvement in this. Did you know the codename for MI-6 is CAROUSEL? This word connects to the Romani Gypsy tradition from my understanding. The carousel music being played in the background of the new Bases 2 DVD ( when the guy is talking about Harwell ) is a MI-6 MK trigger. Miles says this music was being played in the US as well.

Can you pass this data onto Miles please.

Do you know about the legends of werewolves never attacking the Romani Gypsies? I think the film Howling 4 ( or maybe 5 ) is based at a traveling carnival and the magicians who live there hold the secrets of shapeshifting transformations. The part in the Bases 2 DVD where they go to the hall in the countryside and the demonic voice is recorded on the camera is connected to these rituals. Didn't the guy with Miles and Lisa die after that?

See also the film '28 weeks later'- there is a scene where they are in a field with an old carnival behind them. The camera flashes to a carousel ride and a painting of Prince Charles is on the side of the ride.

More Carousel triggers!


These are areas I have no access to other than cursory, NSA, USAF, MI5 and 6, CIA, etc have wider protocols and not limited to certain bloodlines. The rest of your question will be answered shortly

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

I will try again replying later as I keep getting the following error.......

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[THEWATCHER]

watcher can you check out someone for me my dads father Eric nelson died in a car crash when he was 6. his mother remarried someone called stan osburn. stan said his father worked for scotland yard and was the bodyguard of the king.:mfr_omg:

James casbolt said that some sleepers were murdered around 30yrs.
Penny Wongs brother comitted suicide at 30 just after she was elected to parlimant what do you think?

ps heard Werribee park described as Hawkeys place.

Hi Craig, not sure if my handlers would be best pleased if we delved into certain areas, Scotland Yard and Special Branch are not exactly best of friends to certain whistleblowers, Special Branch organise the dirty tricks on behalf of MI5 when they wish to muzzle someone, in a wide variety of non lethal ways

Barry

[Kari Lynn]

James, that was fairly standard part of testing procedures in the 1950's and 1960's

Barry
So has it been proven that lead will prevent psychic penetration? I'd have thought psychic thoughts would be impervious to such physical obsticles.
What are the red beam/lighted RV cages made of? What causes them to be able to snare a psi?

[craig nelson]

Hi Craig, not sure if my handlers would be best pleased if we delved into certain areas, Scotland Yard and Special Branch are not exactly best of friends to certain whistleblowers, Special Branch organise the dirty tricks on behalf of MI5 when they wish to muzzle someone, in a wide variety of non lethal ways

Barry

Do they drive black BMW motor bikes? :sweatdrop:

No bikie kull

[THEWATCHER]

So has it been proven that lead will prevent psychic penetration? I'd have thought psychic thoughts would be impervious to such physical obsticles.
What are the red beam/lighted RV cages made of? What causes them to be able to snare a psi?

It hampered but did not actually prevent, low psi ability would be virtually stopped but high psi would still get thru. There are many differing blockers used in testing and confinement these days, the technical setups are beyond me I'm afraid


Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Do they drive black BMW motor bikes? :sweatdrop:

No bikie kull

Can't say I've come across any using such vehicles, SB tend to use non descript bog standard vehicles from the car pool.

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Some light entertainment to follow........................Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Its quite funny I think you will agree..........Barry



http://alien-disclosure-group-tv.ning.com/video/trunk-monkey-aliens

[sleepingnomore]

That was very cute!:original:

[THEWATCHER]

That was very cute!:original:

Its a bit silly but I'm in a silly mood for some reason, must be the hot weather LOL:original:


Barry

[sleepingnomore]

We all need to remember to laugh when life gets difficult.:thumb_yello:

It's what keeps me going sometimes.

[Kari Lynn]

lol. Finally got it to down load. Funny! lol.
I think my trunk monkey abandoned me because of my last vehicular gymnastics stunt! lol

[THEWATCHER]

This was written and saved to notepad BEFORE Bill posted on Camelot that this forum was down

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Just an observation, please do not take this personally or too deeply. Over recent few years more and more
US based whistleblowrrs have stepped up to the plate with varying data, mostly scientific based as most have a doctorate of some kind. Some compliment each others data and tend to confirm one anothers data. No problem with that at face value. One could be extremely skeptical and ask the following...................
1: Why so many recent US whistleblowers?
2: Why so many with scientific backgrounds?
3: Why does the data stated by each, at times contradicts then compliments others data?
4: As its a media and public alike tendancy to accept more easily data/testimony emanating from someone with a scientific background rather than from someone not within these parameters, would it not be the perfect tool to 'educate', 'manipulate', spread disinformation?
I am NOT stating this is the case, merely wish to highlight something most enquiring minds should at least have had cross their minds at some stage.
Its also very interesting that many of these whistleblowers have their interviews recorded and placed here available to everyone, but then in most cases its done and dusted, no after feedback or questioning from those whom may wish to question/dissect/verify to their own satisfaction, their respective testimony.
With one or two short lasting exceptions, very short in one instance, whilst another threw his toys out of the pram, have such whistleblowers hung around daily under the scrutiny of members here. Facing your questioners on a real time basis has been non existant here with one exception, yours truly. I think this is a unique situation as others seem not to be able to dare face those whom would like to deeply question their claims and not simply rely on the required acceptance expected of them from a recorded interview.
As stated above this is just an observation but a valid one maybe voiced silently by others whom wish not to rock the boat.
Call me a heretic, call me a turncoat, whatever, I do not care, I have 15 years disclosure under my belt and have stood the test of time. Will these others be around in 15 years time?
I at least face my public my critics, I have the guts the spine and the balls to prove it. Do any of the others?

(This was written on Thursday before I knew Avalon was down, did not get a chance to listen to Radio and still have not had opportunity)



Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Just to reiterate, WATCH THE SKIES......ALL WILL NOT BE AS IT SEEMS


Barry

[sleepingnomore]

Just to reiterate, WATCH THE SKIES......ALL WILL NOT BE AS IT SEEMS


Barry

All has not been as it seems for some time now in the skies. Are you saying that it's going to become evident to more people?

[THEWATCHER]

I have this cleared by my superiors, yes, expect much more cloak n dagger, smoke n mirrors chicanery. No, certainly not wishing to create any chaos or anxiety, simply to forewarn everyone, thats my role here, take it or leave it, its still a free speech zone.

Barry

TRUTH, JUSTICE, FREEDOM

[Kari Lynn]

Just to the skies, or on ground level too?
I've been noticing alot of police and activity from government on ground lately. Past 2 or 3 days anyway. Police, could be just because of beginning of month. Out trying to fill their quota for tickets. lol. But they sure are alot. And, also more than just our local cops too. Several state and county boys out here. As well as the you know who. Saw them today. Nice big bold letters on their black T-shirts to give them away. Not sure if the "guys" are on high alert, but I certainly am!
Had a truck sitting idle in my drive few nights ago too.

[THEWATCHER]

It would be prudent to keep your eyes peeled to all around you, your mind alert, cool thinking, just observe and take in all you see, hear and sense. All is not as it might seem.:original:Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Oh dear, Miles Johnston is not a happy bunny, advised me to check out a website where he states they are selling a pirated copy of the new DVD set Bases 2 Take 2, sure enough, check it yourselves!!:original:Barry

http://theufostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=T&Product_Code=Bases-DVD

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s270/TheWolf1952/bases.jpg

[Kari Lynn]

Let me guess..... "keeping me on my toes" again?
I'm careful ..... okay, sometimes....... once in a while. lol.

About Dvd. This is why it is so important to copy right your material. Even if you don't plan to sell or make money from it. Simply to protect your stuff.
Did they by any chance quote you or anyone else. Without permission, legal issues can be taken.

[THEWATCHER]

Let me guess..... "keeping me on my toes" again?
I'm careful ..... okay, sometimes....... once in a while. lol.

About Dvd. This is why it is so important to copy right your material. Even if you don't plan to sell or make money from it. Simply to protect your stuff.
Did they by any chance quote you or anyone else. Without permission, legal issues can be taken.

Lets state for the record, I personally have no ties to these products in any legal sense, the copyright is Miles Johnstons. These videos, well began as VHS tapes in the 90's then onto DVDs, are totally the property of Miles, he makes them, edits them and releases them in whatever fashion he wants. I have no say whatsoever. I have been accused over time of trying to push my books, push my DVDs!! I have no books or DVDs to push!! This material is solely the property of Miles Johnston. So in this instance of this direct copy of Bases 2 Take 2 3 disc set, its solely down to Miles if he wishes to pursue any legal procedures with the website concerned. If you click on the preview link on the page detailing the DVD you will see its Bases 2 Take 2. Miles can either halt the sale or simply shrug his shoulders, with the knowledge his work, and our data, are gaining more open audience within the USA. I have no input.

Barry

[Kari Lynn]

I knew that! :tongue2: lol
Okay, so I should have specified "Miles" lol
But you are correct. I'm not sure if there's anything that can be considered a copy right. I have been told if you mail the manuscript (like of a book) to yourself. It's a type of copy right. But not sure how accurate the lady was that told me that.

[Kari Lynn]

Aha! I googled! lol
http://www.wikihow.com/Copyright-a-Book

[James Casbolt]

For messengers of FALLOW-RIGHT
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A wondrous sword was Fallowblade, the finest weapon ever seen;

Forged in the far-flung Inglefire, wrought by the hand of Alfardene,

Famed mastersmith and weathermage. Of gold and platinum 'twas made:

Iridium for reinforcement, gold to coat the shining blade,

Delved from the streams of Windlestone; bright gold for slaying wicked wights,

Fell goblins, bane of mortalkind, that roamed and ruled the mountain heights,

Upon a dark time long ago.


A verse from 'The Song of the Golden Sword'

[James Casbolt]

Amputation of arms and then reattachment of cloned limbs are, and were, performed by the 'Dr Strangeloves' so the DNA in new limbs could be linked up to new artifacts being found all over the world.

Hopefully the Alliance still holds the most powerful artifacts!

[Kari Lynn]

Amputation of arms and then reattachment of cloned limbs are, and were, performed by the 'Dr Strangeloves' so the DNA in new limbs could be linked up to new artifacts being found all over the world.

Hopefully the Alliance still holds the most powerful artifacts!

What are the ones that the NSA have here in the states?

I'm not sure just DNA alone could operate these things. But a special mental capacity needed also, perhaps?

Also, wouldn't the new cloned limb with the new DNA either bring about a DNA change in the person receiving it, (ie, if it is accepted by the body)
or the body would reject it, Hence the DNA of the body being unchanged.

[THEWATCHER]

Please DO NOT get confused with THE 5 artefacts as mentioned in my previous posts, and the 5 beings whom are aligned with respective artefacts.

Coming soon............brief discussion on timeslips, forward and reverse ARV from my time at AL/499..........and why Obama will NOT be allowed to give open statement re ETs:original:


Barry

[sleepingnomore]

Looking forward to it Barry, especially why Obama can't keep the disclosure promise. When I first heard about the deadline I was amused as no one has ever been allowed to make that information public before.

[James Casbolt]

What are the ones that the NSA have here in the states?

I'm not sure just DNA alone could operate these things. But a special mental capacity needed also, perhaps?

Also, wouldn't the new cloned limb with the new DNA either bring about a DNA change in the person receiving it, (ie, if it is accepted by the body)
or the body would reject it, Hence the DNA of the body being unchanged.

More information about this subject at following link. There are many different artifacts all over the world.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=150896&posted=1#post150896

[THEWATCHER]

YouTube - You Are Not Your Name

[THEWATCHER]

Time for some timeslips Friday 10th I think, yeah, why not.......:original:


Barry

[sleepingnomore]

Is this a warning or a prediction? All this cryptic information from so many sources lately has me confused.

[Kari Lynn]

Loved the video.
Such inspirational words.
Decided I had to write them down and post on my fridge.
But the video definitely is more dramatic! lol

[James Casbolt]

Taken from Duncan O Finioan's thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anchor
Duncan O'Finioan

Project Camelot Witness

Last Activity: 12-07-2008 04:08 PM


In case anyone has been mislead, I just checked his last activity date. Not on all that recently I am afraid.

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Thank you the information. This will be my last post here then.

The following data is relevant. I volunteered my body and mind to science when I was thirteen years old. I signed a contract with a positive faction of the US Government ( US intelligence officers connected to Delta Force ) at the following military base in Reading-

http://www.tanearyou.org.uk/unitdetails.php?id=165

The ethical issues of whether I was too young to make such a decision are not worth going to into now. Suffice to say we are dealing with a group of people that have deep metaphysical belief systems which include past lives. I also go along with this line of thinking and believe certain children are 'original' or 'old' souls.

As I've said before, two opposing factions in the intelligence have fought for control over me since before I was thirteen years old.

Because of the issues covered here, I believe a race of cyborgs now lives amongst mankind. Protean beings that are the first of their kind. Again these lifeforms appear to be divided into two classes-

[ 1 ]- AMT ( Ascended Machine Technology ) or androids with souls. Half flesh, half machine that exist to serve, protect and assist mankind.

[ 2 ]- DMT ( Descended Machine Technology )- androids with no souls that exist to do the opposite of the AMT.

This data is connected wth a statement Barry King made in the past- namely that an Artificial Intelligence based computer from the AL/499 facility was/is contacting programmed clones by telephone in the UK and activating them for tasks utilising scalar tones and triggers directed into craniel implants. AMT beings do not much possess much free will. Theirs is a life of service. DMT beings possess no free will at all. Benevolent extra-terrestrial lifeforms working closely with positive faction in the intelligence commuinity control the AMT lifeforms. Some type of alien based supercomputer controls the DMT beings and has taken over various military on the planet and is somehow manufacturing cyborg alien lifeforms and cyborg human clones at these places and on travelling craft that are patched into this hive mind. I believe the governemnts have lost control of the situation and do not know who is who anymore. This is why DNA scanners are located are the exits of many government facilities around the world. I believe this supercomputer has taken on a 'life' of it's own and no concious lifeform is at the controls. I also believe we are seeing some kind of human resistance taking direct military action against this threat. Forces such as COM-12 in Naval Intelligence are constantly on the move in submarines for instance as a last stand. It seems certain 'super-soldiers' have volunteered from a young age to live in certain areas of the UK and to be ready for ops in that area when they needed or to be in areas where fast travel by water to other locations in the UK is available. It appears these people have volunteered for voluntary memory erasures when said ops are complete and to be returned into there respective commuinties 'Fallow-Blind' to continue roles in those commuinties as GPA ( General Population Assets ). It seems this super-computer can 'scan' the minds of the population looking for these brave soldiers, both female and male, therefore of the AMT individual is not aware of being part of these as a GPA, the artificial intelligence computer cannot locate them for termination. Ultimately I believe this is a battle of man against machine. I also believe that the DMT cyborgs under total control are the army'governemt described as The Beast in the Bible.

[Kari Lynn]

I remember reading a book in the 70's. Called the money exchange. As well, as I read about "The beast" super computer in Denmark in other litterature as well. According the the book "the beast" super computer, contained all the information on every person in the world.
The number for this super computer, to access it, is 666
There is a numeral appointed for each country. For the United States, the number is 110
Then followed by your own personal social security number.
With those numbers, supposedly you can access information contained within that computer.
? I haven't tried it. So don't know for sure. Plus I'm not sure in what place to access it?
Just something I read about years ago.
To my knowledge, this super computer, even though built in the early 70's (or even 60's) is still to this day, more advanced than any computers we have now. (though I'm sure upgrades possibly had to be done over the years. lol)
My question would be; is this possibly the same super computer you're talking about? Or is there another?

[THEWATCHER]

Unfortunately time has itself slipped thru my fingers today as i revisited the town of my birth, the actual house where I came into this World on June 10th 1952 still stands. Many childhood memories flooded back as I looked around my old stomping ground LOL. The trip unfortunately tuckered me out so I'm resting now and will resume here over the weekend.:original:

Barry

[Kari Lynn]

:original:
I hope all enjoyable ones.

[THEWATCHER]

Yes they were thankyou, strange going back in time, hmm:original:

Barry

[Kari Lynn]

Definitely. I went home to Michigan in '04. Showed kids my old stomping grounds a bit. It was fun. Didn't realise how much I miss it. And having lived here for almost 20+ years now. I forgot a few things. Like how many HUGE mosquito's there are, and if swarmed by them, they can almost carry you away. lol And how cold it gets at night! lol.
Only thing I haven't done yet, is show them the short cut from my house to my Uncle's house! ROFL. Didn't have a 4 wheel drive at that time. DO NOW! But have to save money and time to go back now. And in these gas hogs, not cheap. lol.

[THEWATCHER]

Brief input, trying to cut myself in two, three, four LOL LOL, too much to try and sort out tonight. This will suffice for a while. The question of whether Obama would be allowed to openly state re the Ufo/ET or not, is a political one. Politics changes daily and those whom control the global political scene can change their agenda, much depends on the global situation. As of this moment the swing goes against his open disclosure later this year. Politics is a very powerful tool when weilded by those with immense power and control. It was these power controllers whom in early 2008 organised the silencing of the UN diplomats at the secret meetings. Much research was carried out by certain individuals at the Open Minds forum at the time. It should be noted here, and it can be checked and verified if you care to do some digging, some research, that it was myself and my colleagues whom actually stated that the UN diplomats were threatened and thus silenced. That came from us and was later verified by others. Obviously the political power controllers did not wish disclosure at that time. They can control any disclosure Obama may plan, if it suits them he can go ahead, if it does not he will not utter a word.

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Well that was interesting, 3 hours listening to the Zurich conf, got a bit heated at times LOL but quite fascinating.....tomorrow its live feed again if I get a chance to listen:original:

Barry

[sleepingnomore]

Brief input, trying to cut myself in two, three, four LOL LOL, too much to try and sort out tonight. This will suffice for a while. The question of whether Obama would be allowed to openly state re the Ufo/ET or not, is a political one. Politics changes daily and those whom control the global political scene can change their agenda, much depends on the global situation. As of this moment the swing goes against his open disclosure later this year. Politics is a very powerful tool when weilded by those with immense power and control. It was these power controllers whom in early 2008 organised the silencing of the UN diplomats at the secret meetings. Much research was carried out by certain individuals at the Open Minds forum at the time. It should be noted here, and it can be checked and verified if you care to do some digging, some research, that it was myself and my colleagues whom actually stated that the UN diplomats were threatened and thus silenced. That came from us and was later verified by others. Obviously the political power controllers did not wish disclosure at that time. They can control any disclosure Obama may plan, if it suits them he can go ahead, if it does not he will not utter a word.

Barry

Thank you Barry for this information. My gut feelings are that no significant disclosure will come from any source until the information is outdated.

[THEWATCHER]

with some exceptions, those of us with little else to lose will push even harder, despite those 'visits' others only talk about

This you might find of interest, the NSA as a whole ARE the enemies we all need be wary of...............NSA Q group

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFWvZr-QLo&eurl=http://

Barry

[no caste]

This you might find of interest, the NSA as a whole ARE the enemies we all need be wary of...............NSA Q group

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFWvZr-QLo&eurl=http://

Barry

Related: NSA continues surveillance of journalists; WMR editor subject of espionage investigation
By Wayne Madsen - Online Journal Contributing Writer - Aug 20, 2008, 00:22
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3642.shtml

(WMR) -- On May 10, 2005, WMR reported on the existence of a highly-classified database at the National Security Agency (NSA), formerly code-named “FIRSTFRUITS,” that monitored journalists who reported on the activities of the eavesdropping agency, as well as other intelligence matters. A few weeks later, according to an executive-level source at the NSA, and confirmed by a related source within NSA’s “Q” Directorate, the Directorate for Security and Counterintelligence, this editor has been a subject of a national security investigation since June 2005 that remains ongoing. The investigation of this editor is classified at the level SECRET/COMINT (NOFORN). COMINT is “Communications Intelligence” and NOFORN denotes “Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals/Governments/Non-US Citizens.”

According to National Security Agency/Central Security Service Policy 1-27, dated March 20, 2006, and signed by NSA Chief of Staff Deborah Bonanni, the investigation of the public disclosure of the unconstitutional and illegal FIRSTFRUITS surveillance system is being coordinated by the NSA, Department of Defense, Director of National Intelligence, and the Department of Justice.

The following are excerpts from the editor’s article that triggered the national security criminal investigation: “NSA maintains a database that tracks unofficial and negative articles written about the agency. Code named ‘FIRSTFRUITS,’ the database is operated by the Denial and Deception (D&D) unit within SID [Signals Intelligence Division]. High priority is given to articles written as a result of possible leaks from cleared personnel.

According to those familiar with FIRSTFRUITS, Bill Gertz of The Washington Times features prominently in the database. Before [NSA Director Michael] Hayden’s reign and during the Clinton administration, Gertz was often leaked classified documents by anti-Clinton intelligence officials in an attempt to demonstrate that collusion between the administration and China was hurting U.S. national security. NSA, perhaps legitimately, was concerned that China could actually benefit from such disclosures...
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Here is a transcript (of sorts, actually an article) for the video THEWATCHER posted.
http://amadon606.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/secret-nsa-q-group-to-distance-govt-from-involvement-in911/

[THEWATCHER]

I refrain from posting details of the 'problems' I have faced from this agency as I have no doubt if I did detail these this thread would disappear, seriously.

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

TIMESLIPS........INITIAL DATA, PERSONAL TIMESLIPS FROM MY PAST

Barry



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[THEWATCHER]

Timeslips, on a personal level, I'm sure this happens to a great number of people, you might register it as a fugue state, a brief mental abberation, a simple 'what the hell happened there?' lol. I will describe some of my timeslips, giving none any more relevence than a passing thought, they were just simply weird and unexplainable but remain etched in my mind.
One occured whilst I was strolling around the gardens at Hampton Court Palace. It was a very pleasant sunny warm day, other visitors strolling around, I felt peaceful and calm, away from my hectic work schedules, calm and quite content. I suddenly got the impression to walk briskly to a certain part of the gardens, I usually follow such instincts immediately, and so off I went. I stopped near an elderly oriental gentleman whom was looking down at the blooms. He stood up and gazed in my direction, he seemed to have muttered or whispered something inaudible then smiled. He began to walk slowly away and as he passed me he casually made a hand movement to his left. I stood, looking down at the ground which seemed to fade, became black, in fact my whole vision went black for a second or two. Then I slipped in time. I was still me, dressed in my clothes from moments ago but all around was radically different. My senses were so heightened it was unbelievable. Sense of smell was acute, as if the very place, the very air around me was purer, cleaner. Complete absence of normal, to me, sounds, no cars, no planes overhead, pure golden silence, coupled to a heady fragrance of the gardens. I looked around and began slowly walking. The whole area was different. An exploration over a period of some minutes took me to the point of realising I no longer was in 20th century, everything here was different. Not easy trying to explain how I felt, the acute senses, the quiet of the place. Looking around again I pulled from my pocket my cigarettes and lighter, lit a ciggie and stood smiling at this great place. A movement from the corner of my eye made me turn. 40, maybe 50yds away was a man carrying what I took to be a wooden bucket or similar. His brown and grey colored clothing looked grubby even from where I was standing. He did not seem to notice me but carried on with whatever business he was involved in. Curiosity got the better of me and I began to walk slowly towards the man. I reached to within maybe 20 yds or so and he suddenly stopped what he was doing, looked around in all directions as if startled but not seeing me. Like a scared rabbit he looked around and around but did not move from his crouching position. As I got a little closer his eyes stopped flickering from side to side and stopped in my direction. He stood up and frowned, looking at me but not really seeing me I thought. Perhaps my cigarette gave me away as his nose twitched. He was about to take a step in my direction when his face suddenly showed fright, that guy ran as fast as his legs could take him. I felt bad that I had somehow spooked him and thought of running after him but as I was about to do that the small oriental gentleman appeared from nowhere and smiled waving his finger sideways indicating 'no'. The whole thing went black again for a second or two then I was back to my time, among the other visitors to this wonderful location.

[THEWATCHER]

Next, thrown aboard a B17 enroute to Germany

Barry