Miracle Mineral Solution

[Ampgod]

Ampgod & Swammy you have an update on your progress at this time? Glad to see you are up to 16 drops Ampgod, but any health results yet?

Thanks

First off, I'd like to say that I think everyone should take this for the detox at the very least.

I am very healthy! I just am not sure when I should go get tested.
My herpes could be gone already. There really is no way to tell without a test
as I am perfectly healthy and feel great. I just want to make sure so I'm doing it a bit longer just for good measure. Another week perhaps. Then I'll go get a blood test. Herpes is one of the more tuff viruses to get fully gone. So I'm shooting for the full 2 weeks at full dosage before I test for the first (hopefully last) time. If it's still there I will not give up. I will continue to do it for 2 months if I need to.

[Swanny]

Ampgod & Swammy you have an update on your progress at this time? Glad to see you are up to 16 drops Ampgod, but any health results yet?

Thanks

Its Swanny :original:
I'm stuck on 8 drops cant get past it

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

I'm privileged to be interviewing Jim Humble (the inventor of MMS) on Friday 21 November, at a conference in Germany.

If you have any questions that you'd like me to put to him, I'd be interested to read them here.

Very best wishes, Bill

[alice goes nuts....]

ampgod, im very sure herpes can not be found in blood anyway, but as time goes by you will see no more outbrakes, the virus is found in the nerves.....

i used to have herpes (mabye streptococcus or stapylococcus, never had it tested, but it was traditional cold-sores), but it went away not long after removing mercury.....have mabye had 3 outbrakes in almost 10 years after that, so i dodnt think i could call it active at all.....anyway what helped me a lot was teatree oil when i used to have it....:original:

[alice goes nuts....]

Alice you really should check with your physician if you have heart problems. I would not be brave enought to venture on this path if I had heart problems.

somehow, I am sure that the food we eat doesn't help your heart too much either

Good Luck

PS I have seen other medication advertised for diabetics.
that were easier on you then the MMS


no, it is just this normal version of heartpalpitation, it have been checked, and nothing wrong, some people just have more senistive hearts for stress, it is ok and fully normal....

[DoctorTony]

can this stuff be obtained in the uk..? is this the stuff henry deacon spoke of?

Hi pineal

Here is a list of suppliers. I don't know if they ship over seas or not. Hope this helps.


MMS Suppliers
America
Name Website / Email Phone
Subtle Energy Therapy www.subtleenergytherapy.org 800-581-1948
MMS Wholesale -Jim Benner jimbenner@sbcglobal.net 888.839.6007760.580.2121
Global Light Network www.globallight.net/Mms_86.html 888.236.2108
MMS Info www.MMSinfo.NETWe personally answer calls & emails 702 727 4050702-466-6336702-353-0566
PGL International www.mmsmiracle.comOrder here for US and International 888.349.9428775.636.7423
Air Water Americas www.h2oairwateramericas.comMMS empty bottles, ships worldwide 816.682.6425816.726.7667
Basic Essentials www.ordershere.comInternational supplier Phone on Website
Clo2Plus www.clo2plus.com 702 421 7409
Denis Richard www.mmsdr.com 760.536.6123
Edward Lias, Ph.D. www.MMSsuperSite.comConsultations by Phone and Email 936 560-5400
IncrEdiblEarth www.mmsHealthy.comwww.mmSupplier.cominfo@mmsHealth y.com 877 427 7704Toll Free
Merril Anderson 937.879.0402
Miracle Mineral www.buymiraclemineral.com 800.921.4528928.237.4425
MMS 4 Less www.mms4less.comWholesale Orders 717 889 0386
MMS Dr www.mmsdr.com 760 536 6123
MMS Orders www.mmsorders.com 585.703.2997
MMS Support www.mmssupport.net 323 375 8479
BetterMMS.com www.BetterMMS.com 209-532-0318877-846-8468

Dr Tony


Sorry I should've included the website because other countries are listed:

http://www.miraclemineral.org/suppliers.php

[mntruthseeker]

Ampgod.........................thank you for the update..

I am very happy for you God Bless

[peaceandlove]

Regarding Ordering MMS

Blessings All,

Please be aware there are some suppliers of MMS that do not offer a true 28% Chlorine Dioxide formula. There are different grades of Chlorine Dioxide available on the market to make MMS from.

The website I use is: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.


FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at the above authorized website. Low Cost Shipping Rates, include Worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

Please see many more previous posts by peaceandlove starting at Page #2 Post #33 regarding protocols.

[Swanny]

Regarding Ordering MMS

Blessings All,

Please be aware there are some suppliers of MMS that do not offer a true 28% Chlorine Dioxide formula. There are different grades of Chlorine Dioxide available on the market to make MMS from.

The website I use is: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing


I ordered some from http://www.transformation2012.com.au/
Do you know if thats ok??

[Julius]

Hi, Folks:

I'm privileged to be interviewing Jim Humble (the inventor of MMS) on Friday 21 November, at a conference in Germany.

If you have any questions that you'd like me to put to him, I'd be interested to read them here.

Very best wishes, Bill


Yes, I have a question...MMS has been banned in Canada because of 1 complaint. Is there any plans to appeal this decision?

Also wish him well and if I can help in anyway, I'd be glad to do it.

Thanks

[Myplanet2]

Yes, I have a question...MMS has been banned in Canada because of 1 complaint. Is there any plans to appeal this decision?

Also wish him well and if I can help in anyway, I'd be glad to do it.

Thanks

Some suppliers have continued "underground". I was able to find one after the ban who shipped my some "water purification crystals". :lmao:

[Myplanet2]

First off, I'd like to say that I think everyone should take this for the detox at the very least.

I am very healthy! I just am not sure when I should go get tested.
My herpes could be gone already. There really is no way to tell without a test
as I am perfectly healthy and feel great. I just want to make sure so I'm doing it a bit longer just for good measure. Another week perhaps. Then I'll go get a blood test. Herpes is one of the more tuff viruses to get fully gone. So I'm shooting for the full 2 weeks at full dosage before I test for the first (hopefully last) time. If it's still there I will not give up. I will continue to do it for 2 months if I need to.

Has it been clear sailing since that one "bump" you hit?

[Ampgod]

Has it been clear sailing since that one "bump" you hit?


I am staying at high doses with no issues with the exception of speratic semi-diarrhea.
I thought it left but I do still get a little off and on.
Getting tired from doses stopped awhile back.
I do miss my vitamin C :original:.
But thats a small price to pay for what this stuff offers to my health long term.

I am very optimistic about MMS.:thumb_yello:

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The biggest key I can offer to people is this.... eat a little food (no vitamin c) before your doses.
or you can just drink a little thick juice (no vitamin c) like pomegranate/akai Naked Juice just before.
And I believe diet matters a lot! If you are eating a bunch of toxin filled junk food then your MMS will be working on that instead of working on what you are targeting. (I assume)
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[Ampgod]

ampgod, im very sure herpes can not be found in blood anyway, but as time goes by you will see no more outbrakes, the virus is found in the nerves.....

i used to have herpes (mabye streptococcus or stapylococcus, never had it tested, but it was traditional cold-sores), but it went away not long after removing mercury.....have mabye had 3 outbrakes in almost 10 years after that, so i dodnt think i could call it active at all.....anyway what helped me a lot was teatree oil when i used to have it....:original:

If it ever breaks out at all you still have it.
I want it gone and will not accept this "there is no cure" **** as seen here on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex#Herpes_simplex_in_the_immunocomprom ised_host

"There is currently no cure for herpes; no vaccine is currently available to prevent or eliminate herpes. However, treatments are available to reduce viral reproduction and shedding, prevent the virus from entering the skin, and alleviate the severity of symptomatic episodes."

I think that is total BS and we need to prove it!

It does hide in the nerve cells. But I intend to kick its ass! :thumb_yello: :original:

[peaceandlove]

;) Blessings All,

Please Note:

After some further investigation regarding the percentage of sodium chloride in the MMS solution, I have found out that there is in Part II, Chapter 15 of Jim Humble's book an explanation why the company, whose label I saw that said their MMS was 22.4% is due to this:

The following is the response I received from PGL International, LLC, AKA: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

The actual NaClO2 content of 28% sodium chlorite solution (also known as MMS) is technically 22.4% (not 28%). To be more specific, an aqueous solution of 28% sodium chlorite has roughly the following percentages of the following sodium salts:

~ 22.4% sodium chlorite (NaClO2)
< 5.32% sodium chloride (NaCl)
< 0.28% sodium hydroxide (NaOH)
< 0.28% sodium chlorate (NaClO3)

As such, the PGL label (which is stated as 28%) is merely more technically correct as should be expected from a professional grade product produced under GMP / FDA certified nutraceutical controls.

[peaceandlove]

OOPS, this was a duplicate.

[Myplanet2]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are using the "blue" skin, Peaceandlove, right?

Switch to minty and try reading some of the coloured text in your posts.

[mntruthseeker]

I just started 4 drops today.........I feel very sick and I have noticed I'm very tired. Oh man , hope I can make this, I'm not good with nausua......

I have apples but don't want to slow down the progress at all. Just want to get this over with.

I heard you can take C at different times of the day. Not sure if it would slow down process so better off not taking it

[Peer]

@ Bill:
When you meet Jim Humble please thank him for all the good work he's done and giving it to the people.

[alice goes nuts....]

i took a day off....it was very nice not ****ting wather all day.....

[Peer]

About the percentages:
As I had very much difficulty to get ' true' MMS in the Netherlands I found out what it really was and ordered it from a chemicalfactory.
I ordered the laboratory quality which is pure NaClO2 25%.
After thouroughly trying it myself I handed it out to people that came in my practice and asked them if they would try it as well and send me the results.
Their stories were the same as the stories posted here and the results are the same.

I believe we should not get into fights about the real stuff or not real stuff discussions:
NaClO2=NaClO2.
If it is not chemically pure you may have side products like sodiumchloride which is just the normal salt we use for cooking, which is also the residu that remains after chlorinedioxide has done its work.
Don't claim that only this or that brand is the 'right' stuff: Get the Sodiumchlorite and use is as it becomes you because it is NOT A RELIGION.
It is clear it works.
It is clear HOW it works.

The only interesting things as far as I am concerned are the stories of the people that took it and how it worked for them, the similarities and the differences so we can learn from each other and stop fuzzing over details.

For instance I get sooooo bored with people coming in after 11 pages of information and asking where to get it and starting long finished discussions over and over again because this prevents us from getting really new information.
I think it's all been said and all that should be posted about it is how people experience the MMS.
All the info is there (thanks peaceandlove) and it's very interesting to read ampgods records.
Swanny (I resisted the urge to write swammy) makes me laugh everytime for which I thank him/her too.

My personal experience ( and not only my own) is that a small difference in percentage makes no difference to the result at all, nor does the firm you get it from.
It should be the right stuff and that is NaClO2.
Any other name is unimportant.

[Peer]

A story from one of my clients:

She had done the MMScure but she always had trouble with diahrrea so she had to do it slowly but steady as she did.
Obviously problems with her intestines and metabolisme (mercury fillings!!!)
She takes the maintenance dosis every once in a while and gets the sjit everytime but no further problem.
Last time she was with me for back- and bodytreatment I also massaged her abdomen.
One day later she got a terrible toothpain that no painkiller would stop.

For those who are not familiar with TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicin):
Toothache is a welknown symptom of imbalance of the large-intestine-meridian that finds its origin in the large intestine.

Not knowing what else to do, going crazy with toothache she took MMS and was totally stupified to feel the pain disappear within minutes as if it had never been there.
Second fact: For the first time she had no diahrrea after taking MMS.

Those are the stories that make me happy :thumb_yello:

[Peer]

i took a day off....it was very nice not ****ting wather all day.....

Then take it easy and lower the dose.
There is no reason why you should feel uncomfortable and it is no contest who can sh*** the most either. :wall:
You can also stop for a while and start again after a day or so. :sweatdrop:
Learn to be nice to yourself. :wink2:

[Ampgod]

@ Bill:
When you meet Jim Humble please thank him for all the good work he's done and giving it to the people.

I would also like to thank him very much. :):thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

[Peer]

I just started 4 drops today.........I feel very sick and I have noticed I'm very tired. Oh man , hope I can make this, I'm not good with nausua......

I have apples but don't want to slow down the progress at all. Just want to get this over with.

I heard you can take C at different times of the day. Not sure if it would slow down process so better off not taking it

As I also said to AGN:
This is not a sjitting contest so take it easy and don't force yourself or your body.
Forcing your body probably was the start of your discomfort to begin with.
You should also be nice to yourself and not behave like :mad3:

:lol3:

[Swanny]

I'm back up to 10 drops again tonite :original:

Thx from me as well, don't know if it's done anything physically to me yet but I'm happy :thumb_yello:

[alice goes nuts....]

yes i know....i m bussy person....always wanst quick results....so it feels like i had a s... contest with myself, yes......but i will start again tomorrow:wall:

[Peer]

I'm back up to 10 drops again tonite :original:

Thx from me as well, don't know if it's done anything physically to me yet but I'm happy :thumb_yello:

That is the normal way to feel, healthy and happy.
Lots of people think that it is normal to feel sick and take medicins every day but that is the the world upside down.
Feeling healthy and happy and not needing any medicin is the normal state of being.

[shaundelear]

Hi new to this thread just read part 1 and have a simple question .
Why is it required/suggested to use this for an extended period of time if Jim has purged malaria and aids in a couple of days?
Been reading parts of the thread but its massive just seemed to have missed why people take it and are willing to make themselves ill but are happy doing this?

[mntruthseeker]

You talking about me Peer? I am only on 4 drops but after eating an apple and crackers, I'm still sick. I will drop back down to 3 tonight. I am not one to do well getting sick. I did have my aunt tell me I sounded great on the phone. She couldn't hear me gasping at all. Its been a year since she and I talked and I know I have improved just by taking the right nutrients. I am completely off sugar and never was one for milk

I wanted this day to come and go and be on my happy way. I am in no hurry to be sick and I am no fan of that

I was laying in bed last night and I swore I could feel heat in my lungs on the right side. I even had pain.....now its gone and it feels clear. crossing my fingers on this.

I have been using colloidal for four months also and I put all my other vitamins aside for this. I just feel it will work for me and I'm happy

Please tell Jim Humble ..........thank you for me also

[Ampgod]

Hi new to this thread just read part 1 and have a simple question .
Why is it required/suggested to use this for an extended period of time if Jim has purged malaria and aids in a couple of days?
Been reading parts of the thread but its massive just seemed to have missed why people take it and are willing to make themselves ill but are happy doing this?

To answer your question:

There are many variables.
People's body states vary and diseases are different.
Some diseases/illnesses take longer to fix.
For instance... I am tackling Herpes Simplex which takes a lot longer sometimes then malaria to fix.

[peaceandlove]

;) Blessings All,

OK, I've received some information today regarding my post pasted from a website regarding the use of MMS with activator to purify and remove fluoride from water.

This is the response I received from PGL International, AKA: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

That source is actually a quote of Jim Humble. Thanks for sharing.

In my next post I will compile a list of questions I have not been able to find answers to or that have been posed by other members.

[peaceandlove]

About the percentages:
I believe we should not get into fights about the real stuff or not real stuff discussions:
NaClO2=NaClO2.
If it is not chemically pure you may have side products like sodiumchloride which is just the normal salt we use for cooking, which is also the residu that remains after chlorinedioxide has done its work.

Blessings Peer,

You're of great help to all these questioning minds reading this thread.

I didn't realize anyone was fighting. It's just a search for truth and knowledge. More than once I have been asked to provide where the quoted information I post on this thread came from, so it is my desire to serve in the best way I can by taking the time to find answers, especially if there is incongruent information online.

People should know exactly what it is they're taking. Just as I will not take a colloidal silver that may have been mixed in someone's bathtub. More than a couple times I have had salt poisoning from so-called 'normal' salt. (Due to eating commercially salted peanuts.) I cannot use table salt, I have to use a non-chemically processed salt.

This is great Bill will be interviewing Mr. Humble. There are a couple questions posed to me (regarding information I have gleaned online, either on the forum or via private messages) that quick answers would be nice to know, bypassing continuing research and reading. I acknowledge some of these questions may be answered in one of Mr. Humble's books and my sincere apologies for having not read all the references available.

;) THANK YOU BILL!

Here are a few questions if Mr. Humble would be so gracious to answer and/or provide additional technical details.

Quite a few of the questions are about purifying water since it appears MMS can definitely be a blessing, as our need to purify water easily is paramount.

1. How does the MMS with activator purify water AND REMOVE FLUORIDE?
This question will need to be answered technically, if possible, as the question posed by Myra is:

Fluoride is one of the higher Halogens therefore very hard to get rid of. Chlorine (or Chlorine Dioxide) is a lower Halogen and because of this I don't believe it can remove Fluoride.

I read Jim Humbles 1st book. Please send me a link that states it removes Fluoride I would like to see it. Thanks!


2. One website says to use 1 drop MMS with 5 drops activator to purify one gallon of water. Another says to use 2 drops MMS with 10 drops activator ot purify one gallon of water. Is one ratio better than the other?

3. Swanny, this one's for you:
How long does the water remain purified?

4. Another link states: (Can you verify?)
Further Notes: In an emergency if you don't have an activator available, you can add inactivated MMS at night and let it sit overnight. The water will activate the MMS slowly over several hours. Again, only 1 drop of MMS per gallon for drinking water is necessary.

5. Will the MMS with activator purify pond water?

6. I've seen statements claiming it will purify urine. Is that true?

7. Can a person leave the MMS solution too long in their mouth allowing the acid to diminish enamel or be of more serious threat to teeth whose cementum has been exposed due to receding gum lines?

8. Just saw this question at wiki-answers.com, but there was no answer to it.
What pH is a solution of sodium chloride in pure water? (I noticed the question does not include a ratio so it might not be easy to answer.)

9. Can the MMS Solution or MMS alone be used as a bleach on clothes or ceramics?

10. Is there a difference between the laboratory grade Sodium Chloride, food grade Sodium Chloride, commerical grade Sodium Chloride and the industrial grade Sodium Chloride as used in melting icy roads?

This is what I noted on Wikipedia: Sodium Chloride
Salt for de-icing in the UK typically contains sodium hexacyanoferrate (II) at less than 100ppm as an anti-caking agent. In recent years this additive has also been used in table salt.

COMMON CHEMICALS:
Chemicals used in de-icing salts are mostly found to be sodium chloride (NaCl) or calcium chloride (CaCl2). Both are similar and are effective in de-icing roads. When these chemicals are produced, they are mined/made, crushed to fine granules, then treated with an anti-caking agent.

Mr. Humble,
Besides being a blessing in my life, I am grateful for the thousands of people you have liberated! A hero in my book.

[peaceandlove]

Blessings Bill,

I did think of one other question as it pertains to a friend who just last week received diagnosis from a hair analysis and was told she has alarming amounts of arsenic in her body.

Mr. Humble has mentioned that MMS Solution is helpful in removing heavy metals. Probably a stupid question, but specifically for my friend, would you mind asking about arsenic?

Gratefully Yours,

[Ampgod]

Ok , I realized something.

I realized that my virus had already made tiny bubbles inside my lip under the skin before I took MMS. So it would appear that the bubbles are isolated from system and that MMS won't be able to get to them. So, I will finish this week of high doses. Making that 2 full weeks at very high doses. Then i'll start the Zovirax to clear the lip of the dormant tiny bubbles. Then pick up the MMS again and get to full dose for a couple weeks. That should do it. I'm hoping. I understand that the MMS will go after the Zovirax as it doesn't belong in the body. So i'll have to separate the usage.

I am not sure on this. Just trying to figure things out here.

Peace,
Ampgod

[clydebuilt]

Hi been reading all the info, I suffer with IBS so here goes.
Will be ordering the MMS end of the month to see what happens thanks for the thread and all the great feedback goodluck to you all...
:thumb_yello:

[alice goes nuts....]

ampgod, the virus is dormant in the nervsystem, when it brakes out on the skinsurface in is the nomal skintissue, if mms works like we are told it is detoxing the nervesyetem to, i m thinking about this with mercury and brain. so i m sure it will take away herpes too, but, not everything that looks like herpse is that, it can also be allergic stuff, or bacterial. herpes is small clusters og vesicles often 3 amd 3 vesicles, bacterial is bigger vesicles and often leaves a crusty appearance afterwards.

in homeopathy it is often a good sign if something hits the surface of the body, like the skin, often this periode can be long, because the body is getting rid of the stuff and is healing this way. if u have used cortisone or anibiotic or antiviral treatment this will take longer, because the **** has been supressed inwards to deeper levels of the body. this is a prosess.

my ekspiriment is on warts at my albow, since it is virus, i guess i will need time to remove it, but after one week and 3 days i think i can see difference. after another week if it is not totally gone, i will start to make a skinwater and put it om directly, to see it that speeds up the prosess.

[peaceandlove]

Ok , I realized something.

Making that 2 full weeks at very high doses.
Peace,
Ampgod

Blessings Ampgod,

After reading your post I posed another question for Bill to ask Mr. Humble.
My question was that if someone is taking the MMS with food in their stomach as opposed to an empty stomach, would they need to go to a higher level like 30 drops, as I've read some people have, in order to reap the full benefits of the MMS.

He probably received the question too late, considering the time difference.
Yesterday, I was not able to get to posting early enough for Bill to probably receive the questions in time.

I am not, although, not giving up my quest for answers. Will keep updating.

The people here have been very helpful:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

[mntruthseeker]

I am feeling pretty good today and I wanted to share with you all.

I didn't want to get sicker than I had to so I only jumped doses by the day not doses. So on day one I took 2, day two I took 3 and I got sick yesterday when I started my 4 drops. Today I took 5 and I am fine. Not only am I find but the last two days I have been coughing up **** and for the first time in over 7 years my lungs feel clear. I am going to continue to go slow on this but today I really am happy.

My main problem now seems to be with ashma. I really feel that I kicked butt on the emphysema and bronchitis.
I did feel like there was a fire in the right side of my lung before I started coughing up and also in my stomach area.
Today I am not sick at all nor am I coughing. I just feel good. I know that my lungs sure feel light.

I am wearing my oxygen still but have it on one litter. I can't expess how happy I am. I was told that once you are on oxygen you stay on BS I went and picked up some albuteral and pulmacor but its just for backup. My lungs were actually punctured during a proceedure so I have ashma pretty bad. BUT I have faith that I will heal that next.

I am so happy :wink2:

I am so happy I want to go into every room I ever ventured into for COPD and yell from at the top of my lungs there is help people. I will give it one week longer but I'm not pushing up the dosage. I will keep watching what I eat and stay healthy as I continue on my voyage.

I hope that when I'm told to go back to work there is a job out there for me

Thanks to all of you for writing your experience to get me to move off my dead ass to get motivated and work on this. :lol3:

[alice goes nuts....]

wow, so cool, very nice responce, i read a story about a women on o2 that could quit it i think this one had ms too....anyway, imressive respons.....i had i little flue symptoms the 3-4 day, but was not sure....but i think it was clearing out virus....

anyway....good luck on your journey....:original:

[Ampgod]

ampgod, the virus is dormant in the nervsystem, when it brakes out on the skinsurface in is the nomal skintissue, if mms works like we are told it is detoxing the nervesyetem to, i m thinking about this with mercury and brain. so i m sure it will take away herpes too, but, not everything that looks like herpse is that, it can also be allergic stuff, or bacterial. herpes is small clusters og vesicles often 3 amd 3 vesicles, bacterial is bigger vesicles and often leaves a crusty appearance afterwards.

in homeopathy it is often a good sign if something hits the surface of the body, like the skin, often this periode can be long, because the body is getting rid of the stuff and is healing this way. if u have used cortisone or anibiotic or antiviral treatment this will take longer, because the **** has been supressed inwards to deeper levels of the body. this is a prosess.

my ekspiriment is on warts at my albow, since it is virus, i guess i will need time to remove it, but after one week and 3 days i think i can see difference. after another week if it is not totally gone, i will start to make a skinwater and put it om directly, to see it that speeds up the prosess.

Thanks.
But I consider myself an expert on herpes simplex.
I have studied it since I got it at 17 years old. I am now 36.
I have mastered it to a point of not being much of a nuisance at all.
I know exactly what it is. Where, when and how it comes up.
How it feels before it comes up. Visually, what it looks like when its semi dormant etc.

So, It is herpes simplex I can assure you. hehehe

You may be right that MMS will deactivate the tiny bubbles. However, I can still see them there (under the skin). I am taking the Zovirax now to see if it acts the same on my lips as it did all the years before. If it doesn't react like it did before we can assume MMS changed something. :) So lets see what happens. :)

[mntruthseeker]

Thank you Alice and good luck on yours

I was just told how nice it was to hear my voice over the phone. woooohoooooo

This is truly great and I thank you Jim Humble once again for putting this out there...............and to you Leer for posting this thread and all that contributed to it, especially you Peace&Love.


Vickie is happy happy :winksmiley02:

[Swanny]

Nice one mntruthseeker :thumb_yello:
Good news that your feeling it already :)
Hope it sorts your eyesight out as well :winksmiley02:

[flynt144]

Ampgod can't you use MMS directly? Was thinking about letting my kids try it on their acne.

Ps my kids kept drinking my apple/pineapple juice so i just use water, that made it taste like bleech and I think caused must of my nausea?

[flynt144]

Morning Swammi :lmao:

[peaceandlove]

Meant to say, NOT giving up my quest for answers.

YEAH MNTRUTHSEEKER!

This passage seems very pertinent to some of the recent posts on this thread:

Different Conditions

With serious acute infections or poisonings, such as with malaria Humble recommends giving immediately 15 drops followed an hour later by another 15 drops. While most conditions tend to improve with a medium-dose taken over a long period, some parasitic and viral conditions seem to require at least one high double dose to get results. It seems that with life-threatening acute conditions a high double dose can be more easily handled than with chronic conditions.

For chronic or long-standing conditions always increase the number of drops very slowly over a period of weeks. it is best to increase by 1 drop each day until you feel some nausea. The next day drop back by 2 drops and stay at this level for several days until increasing again by 1 drop a day. In this way you gradually work your way higher, reducing and then increasing again to keep nausea under control. You may reduce problems by dividing the daily dose into a morning and a bedtime portion, but after some time always try to edge higher until you start feeling the nausea. If you continue to encounter nausea whenever you raise the dose then just remain for a long time on a level that does not cause problems. Eventually nausea with vomiting or diarrhea may catch up with you anyway but it is better if that is at a high rather than a low level of MMS.

With an acute infection you may start with 3 or 4 drops and increase quite rapidly, even if this means nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. With severe parasite problems, such as malaria attack, or if one had taken a poison, or has food poisoning, or with snake bites, a high double dose of MMS will often help.


Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book:
Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page to FREE - Download

http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

[Kimmie]

PeaceandLove,
There may be too much on my mind today, so I'm not totally "seeing what I should", so i have to ask..."when I clicked on the link you offered where would i find the download?". We got home last night late after setting up for Mom's Wake today and my mind is blank. So I need more details!! Or sleep would be good!!
Peaceandlove...help....click link, then go to???? and download first part of book. I'll check back later!! My husband and I both want to order this yet he has questions. Thanks for info....sorry I'm reading through a cloud right now,
Kimmie

[Kimmie]

Sad to think ...if I'd known of this 6 months ago or a year ago Momma might not have passed on from cancer. yet she may have had things to do in the next level and her passing was on schedule.

[Swanny]

Sad to think ...if I'd known of this 6 months ago or a year ago Momma might not have passed on from cancer. yet she may have had things to do in the next level and her passing was on schedule.

I lost my Mum to cancer as well, I'd have put her on MMS if I had known about it, I think your right if she was meant to be saved she would have been.

When the reaper comes calling there is no escape :death1:

[peaceandlove]

Blessings Kimmie,

I would probably be a cloud too. Yes, I have felt that way about my parents passing and information I know today I did not know then. It's a mysterious universe.

Go to http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

CLICK ON ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page and under MMS Resources you will see blue lettering with FREE - Download Part 1 of Jim Humble's ebook.

It's a good start. I have posted quite a bit of information on this thread, but feel free to ask me and I can probably direct you to the page and post numbers that may have the answers you are looking for or I can copy and paste them directly to you, whenever you're ready.

Peace to you Kimmie ~ Wishing you well today.

[Kimmie]

Does it have any effect on broken bones/healing joints? I dislocated my ankle and shattered the bones on both sides of the joint a yaer and a half ago. I put on weight-using a wheel chair and walker..no weitht on ankle for 3 months-and now have swelling when working in the gardens or any pulling/pushing/lifting activities that go on for hours.

Does MMS "heal and strenghten'? or simply "keep the bodily systems in optimal functioning condition?

[peaceandlove]

Kimmie,

I remembered that I pasted some information regarding that.

This was posted on page 3, I think or 2, anyway. Sounds like some of the pain is from inflammation and when the immune system is working better the body is able to heal itself. There are probably a couple other things you could do to speed up the repair time in conjunction with the MMS.

Chlorine Dioxide gas circulates in the blood stream, destroying pathogens that are gradually eliminated.

~ MMS doesn't replace damaged body parts or add anything such as vitamins, nutrition, or protein.
~ MMS boosts the immune system immeasurably - 100% or even greater.
~ MMS doesn't heal anything. Sprains, whip-lash, bald head, addictions, and bad attitudes are not caused by bacteria.
~ When your body is free from poisons and toxins, the immune system sometimes "heals" damaged body parts.
~ Life style and positive attitudes are factors in triggering the immune system into reconstructive healing mode.
~ Claimed: MMS can be used periodically to maintain a cleansed toxin-free body, achieving high levels of immunity.
~ Conflict with other drugs is unlikely. If in doubt, voluntarily eliminate one or the other.
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and usage.

[Myplanet2]

Peaceandlove. Please, with the colors already. The "blue" forum skin hurts my eyes, and the colors your choose are invisible in the alternate "minty" skin.

I'm interested in your posts, but can't read them without selecting the invisible text and highlighting it.

Most of what's quoted below can't be read by me as it is.


Blessings Kimmie,

I would probably be a cloud too. Yes, I have felt that way about my parents passing and information I know today I did not know then. It's a mysterious universe.

Go to http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

CLICK ON ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page and under MMS Resources you will see blue lettering with FREE - Download Part 1 of Jim Humble's ebook.

It's a good start. I have posted quite a bit of information on this thread, but feel free to ask me and I can probably direct you to the page and post numbers that may have the answers you are looking for or I can copy and paste them directly to you, whenever you're ready.

Peace to you Kimmie ~ Wishing you well today.

[peaceandlove]

I'm sorry, I did change some of the colors on the text you had mentioned in a previous page. The white is so bright to me it bothers my eyes. Is the white better for you? When you said minty, I thought you meant I should use the minty or pale colors. Sometimes I make a few things brighter for the skimmers so they will at least catch the more important points, but I'm happy to take a suggestion.

I know the red is rough to read and the really bright blue, so I use them less. Even the last few posts I deliberately used subtle hues especially for you and anyone else that hasn't mentioned that they were hard to read.

Let me know what's best for you. The small print is what gets me. I was posting in a larger size so I'll try that again. Sometimes I have to copy other people's posts and paste them into my message box and then increase the size and read them in the Preview so I don' have to strain my eyes. I know it's a pain in the you know what.

[Myplanet2]

I'm sorry, I did change some of the colors on the text you had mentioned in a previous page. The white is so bright to me it bothers my eyes. Is the white better for you? When you said minty, I thought you meant I should use the minty. Sometimes I make a few things brighter for the skimmers so they will at least catch the more important points, but I'm happy to take a suggestion.

I know the red is rough to read and the really bright blue, so I use them less. Even the last few posts I deliberately used subtle hues especially for you and anyone else that hasn't mentioned that they were hard to read.

Let me know what's best for you. The small print is what gets me. I was posting in a larger size so I'll try that again. Sometimes I have to copy other people's posts and paste them into my message box and then increase the size and read them in the Preview so I don' have to strain my eyes. I know it's a pain in the you know what.

That's great, thanks. It shows as green on a very light background in minty. If you want to see what alternatives look like, at the bottom of the page is the button to change skin color. the two default color schemes are minty and electric. Very bottom.

Thanks for understanding.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Ok , I realized something.

I realized that my virus had already made tiny bubbles inside my lip under the skin before I took MMS. So it would appear that the bubbles are isolated from system and that MMS won't be able to get to them. So, I will finish this week of high doses. Making that 2 full weeks at very high doses. Then i'll start the Zovirax to clear the lip of the dormant tiny bubbles. Then pick up the MMS again and get to full dose for a couple weeks. That should do it. I'm hoping. I understand that the MMS will go after the Zovirax as it doesn't belong in the body. So i'll have to separate the usage.

I am not sure on this. Just trying to figure things out here.

Peace,
Ampgod

Ampgod,
Not sure where you've got to with the virus killing etc... but I remember Dr Bob Beck mentioning wart viruses hiding outside of the blood stream. This was why he used the magnetic pulse section of his protocol to shock the viruses out of the spinal columns and glands etc where they lie dormant and out of he blood flow (so it wasn't able to be zapped by his blood zapper).

Sorry for off topic nature and laterness to the thread :) I assme I should get myself some MMS and catch up ;)

[Myplanet2]

According to Camelot "what's new" update, Bill had the Jim Humble interview in the bag.

It doesn't say when it'll be released, but I look forward to watching that one.

[mntruthseeker]

Well its been a long last couple of days. I guess I was fooled to think I was through the rough part. I guess you can't rush it. My lungs do feel better but I guess I just dont eat too well. I am working on that.

I also wanted to know why we had to keep taking this when you see that malaria was cleared in 4 hours. I have to say its the wonderful food we are able to afford.

I am just going one more week and see where it goes. hate it ! :shocked:

[peaceandlove]

That's great, thanks. It shows as green on a very light background in minty. If you want to see what alternatives look like, at the bottom of the page is the button to change skin color. the two default color schemes are minty and electric. Very bottom.

Thanks for understanding.

;) Wow, what a difference. I didn't even know I had a choice of backgrounds or skins as you say. I didn't understand why you couldn't read the posts, I thought maybe you had some eye condition. This is the first forum I have ever blogged on.

I did have someone in the very beginning asking me not to post bright blue on the blue skin, so I'm finding it challenging, but not impossible, to use the colors and have them work on both skins????????

Right now, I'm scrolling back on my posts to see what they look like in minty and editing them so hopefully they will be visible on both 'skins' and allow me to still highlight important points. This may take me a few hours, but I can do it.

Thank you sooooo much Myplanet2, My Bad!!!!

[peaceandlove]

Well its been a long last couple of days. I guess I was fooled to think I was through the rough part. I guess you can't rush it. My lungs do feel better but I guess I just dont eat too well. I am working on that.

I also wanted to know why we had to keep taking this when you see that malaria was cleared in 4 hours. I have to say its the wonderful food we are able to afford.

I am just going one more week and see where it goes. hate it ! :shocked:

Blessings mntruthseeker,

Now I'm not sure if you're using minty or electric skin, so I don't know if you saw this post in regards especially to you and others who have the desire to correct chronic conditions, so here it is again. Please take your time, go slow, it takes some people upwards of a year to remove all the toxins, pathogens and heavy metals from their body. Especially go slow if you've had any heart condition.

Patience is a virtue and it appears the 'want it NOW generation' has been programmed by the medical profession that poor eating habits, exposure to toxins, and chronic illnesses can be healed with a pill overnight. This is not the case, it is a false reality. It is just more mind bending and brain washing to think toxic allopathic drugs can correct toxic chronic illnesses. There is no magic allopathic remedy only coverups and temporary alleviation of symptoms that result in more toxic chemicals that need to be removed from the body in order for the immune system to operate fully again. You have a long ways to go...practice patience and you will be a stronger soul for it.

You CAN do it.....BUT SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!

YEAH MNTRUTHSEEKER!

This passage seems very pertinent to some of the recent posts on this thread:

Different Conditions

With serious acute infections or poisonings, such as with malaria Humble recommends giving immediately 15 drops followed an hour later by another 15 drops. While most conditions tend to improve with a medium-dose taken over a long period, some parasitic and viral conditions seem to require at least one high double dose to get results. It seems that with life-threatening acute conditions a high double dose can be more easily handled than with chronic conditions.

For chronic or long-standing conditions always increase the number of drops very slowly over a period of weeks. it is best to increase by 1 drop each day until you feel some nausea. The next day drop back by 2 drops and stay at this level for several days until increasing again by 1 drop a day. In this way you gradually work your way higher, reducing and then increasing again to keep nausea under control. You may reduce problems by dividing the daily dose into a morning and a bedtime portion, but after some time always try to edge higher until you start feeling the nausea. If you continue to encounter nausea whenever you raise the dose then just remain for a long time on a level that does not cause problems. Eventually nausea with vomiting or diarrhea may catch up with you anyway but it is better if that is at a high rather than a low level of MMS.

With an acute infection you may start with 3 or 4 drops and increase quite rapidly, even if this means nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. With severe parasite problems, such as malaria attack, or if one had taken a poison, or has food poisoning, or with snake bites, a high double dose of MMS will often help.

Pretty soon you won't hate it, you will be very grateful for it. Please keep a positive outlook.

Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book:
Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page to FREE - Download on the website below:

http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

[orionsbelt]

In very small doses may be helpful for killing bacteria. Like bleach or hydrogen peroxide, it can be use to improve unsanitary conditions and to kill a wide variety of organisms (in-vitro).

It can also leach minerals, potassium, lithium, etc. out of 'materials'

NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another electron-stealing 'cousin' (They rip electrons off of other atoms). In other words, all three are highly Oxidative/corrosive.

The 'supplement' is made of three elements: (Sodium, Chlorine and Oxygen + water). When combined with an acidic 'activator', you break the chemical bonds and release the Chlorine and some Oxygen into your blood and body. If you have ingested some of this solution you may Smell the Chlorine gas coming out of your pores. (Remember that the nose adapts to smells after a few minutes.)

Chlorine was the number one poison used in chemical warfare in WWII. Flourine is slightly more hazardous and could be used as well but Chlorine is much easier to produce. If you aren't getting enough Flourine in your water you can add a bit more Chlorine (not serious).

Salt water is composed of Sodium, Chlorine, Hydrogen and Oxygen. Break the NaCl ionic bonds of the salt in the water and you have Chlorine gas (Cl and Sodium ions (Na+).

Guess what will Chemically REACT quite violently with silver and many other elements? (Oxidizes Silver)
Why does one put DROPS of the Chlorine dioxide into a Glass instead of into a Metal drinking container? (It will Corrode the metal)

If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What Chlorine dioxide is or what it will do.

The electronegative properties of F, Cl and O are the highest on the Periodic Chart. (the most reactive elements on the top-right corner of the Periodic Chart - excluding the Noble Gases). If you do not understand what this means then you are not in any position to be telling others about what the "Miracle" can and cannot do. Addition studies in microbiology and organic chemistry are suggested as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity

Chlorine dioxide is good for purifying water when properly utilized.

It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.

Another note: Viruses are NOT, by definition, living and they are not related to bacteria. Bacteria Are living organisms. You CANNOT KILL a virus - it is Not Alive!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note:
Hydrogen Peroxide does not contain any harmful Chlorine and it kills bacteria and releases oxygen when 'activated'. It can be used as a powerful water purifier. H2O2 = (Two parts Hydrogen + Two parts Oxygen --- nothing more). It does react with many metals and has some hazardous properties as well, when used improperly. H2O2 also reacts with Silver, Copper and other metals. (corrodes/oxidizes)

Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.

The internet can be hazardous to your health.
Used Wisely, you can educate yourself instead of believing/trusting others who you do not know.

[peaceandlove]

It can also leach minerals out of 'materials' (Is this a good thing?)
NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another 'cousin'.
If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What MMS is or what it will do.
The "supplement" is good for purifying water when properly utilized.
It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.
Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.


Blessings Orionsbelt,

Mr Jim Humble is a metallurgist, scientist and a chemist. All information I have posted here is merely quotes of his research and not derived from my education. It is also highly recommended to take minerals while ingesting MMS. If you read the research which is very time consuming, you will find answers to many of your questions/statements.

Bill Ryan also interviewed Mr. Humble yesterday and I believe that will be available on Camelot soon.

Miracle Mineral Solution is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water. Miracle Mineral Solution is a water purification product. It is not a mineral supplement nor is it sold as a mineral supplement of any kind. Though often referred to in acronym (i.e. "MMS"), an important distinction must be made between Miracle Mineral Solution and the "MMS Protocol" established by chemist and metallurgist Jim Humble and detailed exhaustively in his book, "Breakthrough, the Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century". When Miracle Mineral Solution is activated such as detailed in Jim Humble's protocol (1:5 drop solution using vinegar with 5% acetic acid or greater, lemon or lime juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid), the chemical compound chlorine dioxide is produced. If your privately intended use for Miracle Mineral Solution is to activate it in accordance with Jim Humble's protocol, it is advised you read Mr. Humble's book and/or study various third party resources which are made available here for your safety. Any information provided herein is for educational purposes only and is NOT meant to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.

Biosafe: “MMS claims to be chlorine dioxide, it is not.”

Jim Humble: This is where he shows his total ignorance for chemistry. All the claims anywhere, and especially in my book say that acidified sodium chlorite generates chlorine dioxide. In the case of MMS it is generated in extremely microscopic amounts. And, of course, MMS has never claimed it is chlorine dioxide.

Now about chemistry. Chemistry is pretty well established in colleges and universities. It teaches certain principles. Most of our scientists agree with these principles of chemistry. So when Biosafe tries to beat around the bush about MMS and says it isn’t producing chlorine dioxide then he simply doesn’t understand chemistry. Let me make it easy. Go to Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 173.325 and you will see that even the regulations talk about making chlorine dioxide from sodium chlorite (that’s what MMS is). It’s so well known through out our society its even in the regulations. One more reference. Go to www.lennteck.com/water-disinfection/disinfectants-chlorine-dioxide. There you can learn a lot about chlorine dioxide for use in industry. But the important thing you can learn is that it is generated from sodium chlorite (MMS) with addition of acids. I can’t say biosafe is deliberately lying, he probably just can’t get the technology down straight in his mind.

But when you are reading about it, you must understand that I never said that MMS is chlorine dioxide when acidified. I said many places, MMS generates up to 1 mg of chlorine dioxide per hour when in the body and up to 3 milligrams when the acid is first added to it. Does that sound like I’m saying MMS is chlorine dioxide. It generates a tiny tiny amount of chlorine dioxide. That isn’t even a pin head. That is at least 1000 times less than what Biosafe is saying that I am saying.



Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book available at this authorized website:

Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESEARCH and click on FREE DOWNLOAD

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.

[Ampgod]

Update here.

I decided to stop the Zovirax pills after taking 2 @ 800mg.
It didn't do anything for me at all this time. Which is interesting.
I assume the MMS quickly got rid of them out of my system as pills don't really belong there anyway.:)
I have kept on with the MMS and will get my first test soon.


Peace,
Ampgod

[Ampgod]

After reading all these posts about the 'Supplement' - To sit back and say Nothing in this case is Wrong.

In very very small doses may be helpful for killing bacteria.

It can also leach minerals out of 'materials' (Is this a good thing?)

Like Clorox/Bleach, it can be use to improve unsanitary conditions BUT, it is very TOXIC.

NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another 'cousin'.

The so-called supplement is made of three elements: (Sodium, Chlorine and Oxygen). When combine with the acid 'activator', you break the chemical bonds and release the Chlorine and some Oxygen into your blood and body. Smell the Chlorine Gas?

Chlorine was the number One poison used in chemical warfare in WWII. (remember Gas masks?) Flourine is slightly more hazardous and could be used as well but Chlorine is much easier to produce. If you aren't getting enough Flourine in your water you can add a bit more Chlorine (not serious).

Salt water is composed of Sodium, Chlorine, Hydrogen and Oxygen. Break the NaCl bonds of the salt in the water and you have Chlorine Gas.

Guess what will Chemically REACT quite violently with silver and many other elements?
Why does one put DROPS of the MIRACLE into a Glass instead of into a Metal drinking container?

If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What MMS is or what it will do.

The electronegative properties of F, CL and O are the highest on the Periodic Chart. (the most reactive elements on the top-right corner of the Periodic Chart - excluding the Noble Gases). If you do not understand what this means then you are not in any position to be telling others about what the "Miracle" can and cannot do. Addition studies in microbiology and organic chemistry are suggested as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity

The "Miracle" can be highly reactive and hazardous.

The "supplement" is good for purifying water when properly utilized.

It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.

Another note: Viruses are NOT, by definition, living and they are not related to bacteria. Bacteria Are living organisms. You CANNOT KILL a virus - it is Not Alive!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note:
Hydrogen Peroxide does not contain any harmful Chlorine and it kills bacteria and releases oxygen when 'activated'. It can be used as a powerful water purifier. H2O2 = (Two parts Hydrogen + Two parts Oxygen --- nothing more). It does react with many metals and has some hazardous properties as well, when used improperly. H2O2 also reacts with Silver.

Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.

Ignorance is Not bliss in this case.

The internet can be hazardous to your health.
It can be deadly. Used Wisely, you can educate yourself instead of living in fantasy worlds all the time. (A little scifi is fun)

Back into the woodwork.

I don't know about the fluoride issue.

*************************************
As for MMS being dangerous.
I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!!
*************************************

Could you tell us what exactly you think MMS's bad effects on the body would be?
Because I'm on heavy doses and I know how harmless & how great it is.
(if taken as directed by Jim humble)

You are welcome to contact me to arrange a visit with me in person to watch me take 18 drops, 3 times a day to see what happens. :) hahahaha

NOTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE SUCCESS! :)

I have also tried taking doses of colloidal silver ion in between my doses of MMS. No problems.

Chlorine & Chlorine Dioxide. Two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
To scare people with Chlorine, in regard to MMS, is a mistake.

* I think you may want to look into the MMS a bit further to understand it better.

Peace,
Ampgod

[alyscat]

Swanny, I've just been reading part 2 of the book, and if I'm recalling directly, the way around this is to drop back to wherever you're not nauseous, but to add an extra dosing session during the day (or for some people who are really sick, do a dosing session as much as every 2 hours, just fewer drops at a time).

later edit: oops, I see where Swanny got up to 10 drops, so this probably no longer applies to him/her. However, the information might be useful to someone else, so I won't delete.

alys

Its Swanny :original:
I'm stuck on 8 drops cant get past it

[Swanny]

Thx alyscat :original:
I'm taking the day off today :thumb_yello:

[Ampgod]

Ampgod,
Not sure where you've got to with the virus killing etc... but I remember Dr Bob Beck mentioning wart viruses hiding outside of the blood stream. This was why he used the magnetic pulse section of his protocol to shock the viruses out of the spinal columns and glands etc where they lie dormant and out of he blood flow (so it wasn't able to be zapped by his blood zapper).

Sorry for off topic nature and laterness to the thread :) I assme I should get myself some MMS and catch up ;)


I have tried using the pulser for about 2 weeks on my spine and all the other spots recommended before using MMS. It was just to small and took too long to be convienient for me. I noticed it did tend to make the virus come out a little so it does work to chase them out from hidding. I may try that again later to help out. I want to get a test first. Maybe next week, to see where im at. If it's still there I may try the pulser along with the MMS together.

I found that the pulsing method was too time consuming and to small.
I feel, for that method, you would need more of a full body chamber to be practical.

But for now, I'll just stick to the MMS as directed by J. Humble and see what happens. Thanks for the info. :)

Ampgod

[mntruthseeker]

Ok I did quit taking the mms last night. I am back on colloidal silver and will stay with this now. I know that the mms helped me tremendously but I can't take "sick".

I have absolutely no pain and if my system is NOT cleaned now it never will be. I am happy with that.

I did want to say that when I made my silver this morning, I added mms into the water and boy was that good. It was the best water I have had in ages. It wasn't even cold yet. I have two pitchers that I use to purify my water and then one container to put the water in for cooking.

so this little coward is signing off mms treatment but found another use of it. I'm sure if I had cancer or something like that, there would be no doubt that this would be what I would use.

[peaceandlove]

Blessings mntruthseeker,

Have you considered taking one drop twice per day or 1/2 drop twice per day? It sounded like you were receiving results. Did you reduce the drops when you experienced nausea? There's no need to speed through the process. Have you looked at post #310 on this page? Wishing you success with whichever modality you choose.

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Click on MMS Protocol for following information.

1. All protocol for taking MMS in the Americas starts with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with half a drop drop. Activate the drops as given above.

2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous.

[mntruthseeker]

I may just wait before going back on the mms. I think that I will stick with the colloidal and see where we are in three to four months. :original:

Why put myself through hell :nono::nono:

I feel good and I'm sure I did alot of good with just the time I used it. I know my sewer system feels cleaner:lol3:


Thanks for caring Peace & Love you are a sweetie:wink2:

[Peer]

Thank all of you for bringing in so much info.
It is really helpfull.

@Kimmie
dear, I know how you feel.
I saw my father die of cancer 30 years ago and couldn't do anything
That's why I started studying TCM and other natural healing.

We can be sad about the things we could not do but we can also be glad about the things we CAN do.
Maybe our children will be prevented from getting cancer.
My condolances with your loss.
I hope your mother didn't suffer too much and that you used the opportunity to have some qualitytime with her.

Peer

[alice goes nuts....]

ok, now i m cursing in church, but i was reading the mms book, not everything but some and i got a bad imression about some of it, someone should tell humble, that writhing **** about this arnold all the time only makes his book seem strange and not very serious, it seem like a big joke......and i could not take it seriously......but reading on the net about people gives me courage to try it more.

but have anyone of u read the book??? and seriously, this way of telling a story is nothing else then uappealing to me.....sorry...i guess i was bugging many people now.....anyway....read it!!!:zip:

[alyscat]

I understand, Alice. He does tend to come from a position of victim concsiousness who turns all his power over to others, and occasionally sounds like a befuddled 74 year old. (Mind you, I don't think all 74 year olds are befuddled, but the book does tend to sound like the stereotype....)

However, that said, his second book is a bit more cohesive, as he takes the reins in his own hands and makes choices and works to carry them out.

Also, I have other friends, not on this forum, who have done MMS and who talk about it. One was an older friend with some fairly serious health issues who wrote me:
quote
I have found that the claims for MMS were true. I use it when I'm experiencing anything for which I would see a doctor for. It quickly Cleared up sore throat, diarrhea, ear ache, sinus flare-up, and GIRD. I used it every day for a month building up gradually to clear up an overgrowth of candidia. I think that gets out of balance pretty easily for me.
end quote

alys

[Blufire77]

<<<<<<Blufire very carefully sneaks in comment after being blasted last time>>>>>>>>>

Ampgod,

I have been following your quest with MMS and the Herpes Simplex I you are fighting. I am posting at this point because of your comment on returning to the Zovirax (if only for a short stint).

I used to suffer on a monthly basis with the same type of herpes until I learned in my herbal studies that this type and even genital herpes can be cured by using L-Lysine.

This is an amino acid that we produce naturally and for what ever reason you are not producing, getting enough or utilizing your Lysine properly. I would like to suggest you try taking L-Lysine and see what happens. I have no idea how this would interfere with the MMS.

Ther is a lot of info on web about L-Lysine and herpes . . . . just google:wink2:

<<<<<<<<<<<<< blufire sneaking back out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




Update here.

I decided to stop the Zovirax pills after taking 2 @ 800mg.
It didn't do anything for me at all this time. Which is interesting.
I assume the MMS quickly got rid of them out of my system as pills don't really belong there anyway.:)
I have kept on with the MMS and will get my first test soon.


Peace,
Ampgod

[Ampgod]

<<<<<<Blufire very carefully sneaks in comment after being blasted last time>>>>>>>>>

Ampgod,

I have been following your quest with MMS and the Herpes Simplex I you are fighting. I am posting at this point because of your comment on returning to the Zovirax (if only for a short stint).

I used to suffer on a monthly basis with the same type of herpes until I learned in my herbal studies that this type and even genital herpes can be cured by using L-Lysine.

This is an amino acid that we produce naturally and for what ever reason you are not producing, getting enough or utilizing your Lysine properly. I would like to suggest you try taking L-Lysine and see what happens. I have no idea how this would interfere with the MMS.

Ther is a lot of info on web about L-Lysine and herpes . . . . just google:wink2:

<<<<<<<<<<<<< blufire sneaking back out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




That is interesting you mention L- Lysine. I have always used it to keep the lip from getting too ravaged when a breakout happens.

I don't see it as a cure though.

It's an amino acid (skin builder).
It toughens the lip skin and makes the breakout more manageable.

If I am wrong please help me understand.

Here is a quick quote off the web regarding Lysine...

"Lysine is believed to prevent and relieve cold sores (herpes).
In studies conducted over the last several years with lysine, researchers are finding lysine to aid in the control and prevention of herpes outbreaks."

"L-Lysine" is a suppression helper only. As far as I can tell.

I only use when I feel the onset of an outbreak. Not all the time.
I don't think i'll ever need it again do to MMS. Actually. ;)


Peace,
Ampgod

[Connecting with Sauce]

Does it have any effect on broken bones/healing joints? I dislocated my ankle and shattered the bones on both sides of the joint a yaer and a half ago. I put on weight-using a wheel chair and walker..no weitht on ankle for 3 months-and now have swelling when working in the gardens or any pulling/pushing/lifting activities that go on for hours.

Does MMS "heal and strenghten'? or simply "keep the bodily systems in optimal functioning condition?

There is an interview with a guy on CMN that completely rebuilt his shattered back with the power of thought alone! The doctors wanted to pin and screw him back together and he rejected it. He was hit by a car at 55mph on a push bike.

It is still in the pay section of CMN as it is less than 1 month old but the technique may help with your bones in your ankle.

[peaceandlove]

I may just wait before going back on the mms. I think that I will stick with the colloidal and see where we are in three to four months. :original:
Why put myself through hell :nono::nono:
I feel good and I'm sure I did alot of good with just the time I used it. I know my sewer system feels cleaner:lol3:
Thanks for caring Peace & Love you are a sweetie:wink2:

Blessings mntruthseeker,

You may have read this information before, please keep it in mind when you're ready.

;) HERING'S LAW OF CURE:

"All cure starts from within out, from the head down and in reverse order as the symptoms have appeared."

;) LAW OF HEALING CRISIS:

"A healing crisis will occur only when an individual is ready both physiologically and psychologically. The basic foundation for all healing is nutritional preparedness. A healing crisis will begin from within out, in reverse order chronologically as to how the symptoms have appeared, tempered by the intensity of the trauma. The individual will have the opportunity to re-experience each trauma, both physiological and psychological, beginning with the trauma of least severity. It must be recognised that traumas involving emotions, which include all traumas, will be released in order, beginning with unconsciousness, then apathy, grief, fear, anger, pain and eventually enthusiasm (love), in conjunction with the appropriate word patterns for each emotion and thought pattern (sensory memory) which are accessible at each level. Unconditional love and unconditional forgiveness are the keys to apply and transmute any resistance at any level, once these resistances are brought to view through the application of the laws of love, light and perfection."

With this definition Dr. Ray emphasises the importance of the emotional side of our health problems. Each disease, accident or surgical intervention contains a strong emotional component which needs to be re-experienced during a reaction, otherwise the healing will remain incomplete and the problem will present itself again at a later time for healing at a deeper level.

This also means that the body selects the kind of healing crisis that is most appropriate at the time, taking into consideration its needs and abilities to have a certain area healed or improved. We can consciously influence this choice by working on a particular problem. I also noticed that the body self tries to select a timing, which does not disable us during important events coming up. I have no doubt that we are guided on our healing path by our inner intelligence, which has our best interest at heart.

In the beginning our healing reactions will be mainly on the physical or biological level, but more and more we will experience the release of emotional blocks and changes in consciousness, preparing us for greater activity on the spiritual level.


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MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

SEE PREVIOUS AND FUTURE POSTS BY PEACE AND LOVE FOR FAQ AND INTERNET INFORMATION REGARDING SAFETY AND PROTOCOL.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I have bought 2 bottles today :)

I also have collidial Silver making abilities now I have a water distiller. H&B selling collidial silver whatever next! :D

[Ampgod]

Ok I did quit taking the mms last night. I am back on colloidal silver and will stay with this now. I know that the mms helped me tremendously but I can't take "sick".

I have absolutely no pain and if my system is NOT cleaned now it never will be. I am happy with that.

I did want to say that when I made my silver this morning, I added mms into the water and boy was that good. It was the best water I have had in ages. It wasn't even cold yet. I have two pitchers that I use to purify my water and then one container to put the water in for cooking.

so this little coward is signing off mms treatment but found another use of it. I'm sure if I had cancer or something like that, there would be no doubt that this would be what I would use.

I would recommend you stick with it.
I would never settle for being in a sickly condition.
I have the power to change it! You do too! :)

There is a story from Jim humble about a lady with acute asthma and she had real trouble breathing.
As she took MMS it got worse as she was coughing up nasty mucous etc..
She talked with him and said she didn't want to continue it as she was sick and needed her inhaler all the time.
He recommended keeping at it. So she did. Weeks later it all cleared!
If you are getting ill from it it is working on your body. Stay with it!
Your body has a natural way of getting bad things out of your system.
They may not be comfortable but they work!:thumb_yello:

*I'm gathering that people whom are more healthy, generally, will not have to endure the bad effects as long as unhealthy people. Depends on the condition of the individual's body.

[Myplanet2]

;) Wow, what a difference. I didn't even know I had a choice of backgrounds or skins as you say. I didn't understand why you couldn't read the posts, I thought maybe you had some eye condition. This is the first forum I have ever blogged on.

I did have someone in the very beginning asking me not to post bright blue on the blue skin, so I'm finding it challenging, but not impossible, to use the colors and have them work on both skins????????

Right now, I'm scrolling back on my posts to see what they look like in minty and editing them so hopefully they will be visible on both 'skins' and allow me to still highlight important points. This may take me a few hours, but I can do it.

Thank you sooooo much Myplanet2, My Bad!!!!

No. your good!!! And thanks for caring to take the time to try to stress what you feel is important in your posts. I've learned a lot from them.

And you're very welcome on the tip :thumb_yello:

[Peace2all]

Hi All, I have been so impressed with MMS and have spread the word to so many people that I finally become a distributor in Australia. Thought I would put details here as some people are having difficulty finding it and some places are charging too much. This is genuine product from MMS Australia.

In Oz the price of MMS is $28 per bottle which is $18.75 US. Citric Acid activator is $3 AUD which is $2 US. Postage is under $10 US Air one week delivery.

If anyone cant find and would like some posted you can send me a message or an email pept@y7mail.com

Cheers

[Swanny]

You can buy Citric Acid at a chemist, it's really cheap, I bought a 50g pack for 45p

[Camdoc]

This is my first post on here, no fancy avatar up yet.
I spent a few hours reading all 13 pages on this thread; congrats to those of you keeping it alive. I have been studying MMS for about 6 months, finally bought a 100 lb drum from Advance Scientific in Florida and smuggled some bags of it out through customs into Ecuador. Made up a few batches, and have some other docs and local dignitaries around town trying it out. I have studied with Tom Hesselink, who helped with the science on Vol II of Jim Humble's book, and learned most of my oxidation/reduction chemistry from him. I would trust what he says. I have found that MMS is useful for acute viral illnesses, tooth abcesses, chronic fatigue infections, etc. I want to do a project with the local health department malaria division to introduce it as a malaria treatment, but I need to improve my Spanish first!

I did find some articles on using NaClO2 and an organic acid to disinfect surfaces, tissue, and even blood components. There is a patent to use it to cleanse blood with hepatitis virus so it can be transfused. Use about 0.28% NaClO2 and 0.2% citric acid. I can send my protocol or the links to that info if anyone is interested.
I am opening a stem cell lab, and will use it to disinfect the umbilical cords and placentas we use to get the stem cells from.
Notice that the Powers that Be are quickly acting to prevent us from having an effective treatment that they cannot control. It will be hard for them to control this, however, since it is a widely used commercial product. THe FDA or Commerce Dept can restrict the labelling of it, though, so you cannot claim that it is for human ingestion.
The cheapest way to get NaClO2 is in bulk. Hudson says technical grade is ok, because the amount of impurities that you would get from using this in doses of a few drops is much less than what you would get in food and water ordinarily. I sell it on my website, www.stemtechlab.com.

[Camdoc]

Well its been a long last couple of days. I guess I was fooled to think I was through the rough part. I guess you can't rush it. My lungs do feel better but I guess I just dont eat too well. I am working on that.

I also wanted to know why we had to keep taking this when you see that malaria was cleared in 4 hours. I have to say its the wonderful food we are able to afford.

I am just going one more week and see where it goes. hate it ! :shocked:

MN,
I appreciate your posts, but have a few suggestions. First, your initial posts showed that you live in a lot of fear. Do you realize this? Fear of nausea was most apparent, but I feel that there are other fears that you are surrounding yourself with. One of them seems to be fear of success.

What will you be, if your lungs are clear? Who will you be, if you are not your disease? Are you ready, are you willing, to give up this disease? Are you ready to let it go, to let go of your identity as a lung patient? Are you ready to accept healing?

You are pushing the protocol so hard that you inevitably will experience side effects. Then, you have an excuse to not continue.

This should not be an uncomfortable ride. It doesn't have to be, unless you want it to be! Relax, cut your dose down to where it no longer bothers you, and stay at that plateau for a few days! Then, TAKE IT EASY!!!! :shocked: Increase your dose a drop at a time. Maybe, stay at the new dose for a couple of days. You are afraid of nausea, so let your body catch up to the dose, before increasing to the next one.

Let your body heal!!! How long did it take you to become ill? How long will you let your body work on healing itself?
Blessings,
Dr. Dan

[Camdoc]

As I mentioned, I have a stem cell lab in Ecuador. Got tired of getting arrested or raided in the States. One of the things that umbilical cord stem cells seems to be working for is Multiple Sclerosis, a disease of the "insulations cells" around the "wires" (axons) in the spinal cord.

THese cells (Schwann cells) get attacked by the body's immune system. Like the pancreatic Islet Cells get attacked in type I Diabetes. Why should that happen? Why should the body be attacking itself?

Well, one reason seems to be mercury toxicity, as has been mentioned on this thread. Another seems to be a chronic viral illness. Viruses that seem to be associated with MS include Measles, Epstein-Barr Virus (infectious Mononucleosis), Cytomegalovirus, and Human Herpesvirus 6.

The last three of these viruses are herpes viruses, related to Herpes Simplex or Genital Herpes. As you may know, herpes viruses set up housekeeping in the nerve cells, and during times of stress, when the immune system is not vigilant enough, they reactivate, multiply, and express as a cold sore or herpetic lesion. These other viruses are more likely to cause a chronic illness, chronic fatigue syndrome. And as for measles, it is now administered as an attenuated virus that is designed to live forever in the body--a vaccine.

As the body makes antibodies to fight these viruses, it seems that some of them cross-react and attack normal human tissues. Kind of like "collateral damage", when the attack of some US jets tends to wipe out an Afghan wedding party. (WIth diabetes, the body is having a reaction to cows milk protein that has been modified by pasteurization, but that is a different story.) In MS, the Schwann Cells seem to be the ones attacked.

Well, it makes sense that reducing the amount of virus in the body would reduce the body's production of antibodies against that virus. So, here is the point of all of this, I recommend to the MS patients that they go through a full course of MMS, up to 15 drops twice a day, to get rid of the virus (the cause), before they get stem cell grafts. That way, the graft will not be wasted by the body attacking the newly repaired cells.

Similarly, I also recommend MMS to MOST stem cell recipients. Stem cells are like little "search and repair" nanorobots. They travel around and look for lesions to repair. IF the body is full of yeast, toenail fungus, abnormal intestinal bacterial, inflammed gut, etc, then the stem cells will go there, iinstead of the place we want them to go. Fortunately, the MMS will clean out the infection, and most of the time, the inflammation, that we are worried about. Then, the stem cells can go where we want them to go, and do their thing.

Thought you might find that interesting!
Blessings,
Dr. Dan
www.stemtechlab.com

[alice goes nuts....]

i see u have read your medicine, very good stuff u are telleing....anyway i need to say that; about vaccines, as u probably know already, the mmr vaccines rubella part is grown i human fetus tissue RA 3-27, i think this cell-line is called....and i would suppose that many of our autoimmune decises have a link to this.....and some of the other vaccines also use human cell-lines.....so it is not a very "strange" rection humans are having when their immunesystem is starting to attac their own body.....

i dont know any other moer destroying human invention than vaccines, and i dont have any doubt that they are the mainreason for 70-80-90% of all the illness we face today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wall:

[WalkingTurtle]

MMS sound really cool! I'll have a try on it, too.

BTW, is there any natural source to get something simliar like MMS from?

WT

[peaceandlove]

;) More information regarding healing crises using MMS and Activator (citric acid).

Questions and Answers

Q: Have you heard of acid reflux occurring from someone taking MMS? Bonnie took a single drop, and doesn't know what might have caused the reaction. She said that she noted an improvement in her sinuses, and she also notices increased energy . . . but the acid reflux is troubling.

Jim Humble: This sort of reaction often happens from MMS. Many problems often turn back on for a few days or a few hours . . . but normally they only reappear for a few hours, sometimes for a few days, but usually not for long.

The reason for this is that when many problems seem to disappear, especially from drugs or other treatments, it is because they are covered over. They have not been healed; they have been covered over or pushed deeper into the system. MMS destroys the things that cover the problems, and the problems reappear. But if you continue, they will disappear. Normally it is worth the time to overcome and destroy these things as you are cleaning your body.

Again, normally, if you do not destroy these things they reappear later in life.

Meanwhile, baking soda is the best thing to use when the acid feeling begins. A level teaspoon of baking soda should be enough in 1/4 glass of water. But don't use the baking soda until the acid feeling starts, and that should be at least an hour after taking the MMS. If you use the baking soda right away after taking the MMS, you will neutralize the MMS and thus get no benefit. Hope this helps. J.H.

Q: What toxins are washed away from the body using your MMS solution?

Jim Humble: MMS kills pathogens and oxidizes heavy metals, the body then washes away the residue. There is some evidence that MMS oxidizes other toxins, but I do not know which ones. However, what most people believe is caused by toxins is almost always caused by pathogens, often colonies of pathogens that are not known, but when they are killed many problems disappear.

Q: I am really impressed. People around me have gone down heavily with flu for several days and been bedridden as well. I had one bad night, and after increasing the dose to 15 drops, it killed the virus. Will I need to stop taking the MMS after I have the inoculations against hepatitis and tetanus for traveling to Vietnam?

Jim Humble: Keep up the good work. I think you should not get a vaccination, and you should take MMS. While traveling to Vietnam, MMS will also protect you from diseases.

Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book available at authorized website:

http:www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost MMS and low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.

Click on About MMS scroll down to MMS Resources and click on FREE Download

See past posts starting on Page #2, Post #33 regarding protocol and FAQ.

[Swanny]

I think I'm starting to get a cold :nono:
I thought I wouldn't get one taking MMS

[peaceandlove]

No. your good!!! And thanks for caring to take the time to try to stress what you feel is important in your posts. I've learned a lot from them.

And you're very welcome on the tip :thumb_yello:

Blessings Myplanet2 (I Love That Name ~ I Care 2),

Thank you so much for alerting me to the different skins. The minty is much easier to read than the electric. :shocked::insane:

If you go back starting on Page #2, Post #33, and scroll along looking for my avatar, you will see I've corrected all the colors so they are now viewable on both skins.

I guess I was going a little crazy there with all the highlights and pale colors. My eyes were getting weary from looking at the white lettering so I was trying to tone it down with a pale color, but it was invisible using the minty skin. My intent was to highlight text in the quotes as a way of answering questions from previous posts, plus I love color and green trees and blue skies and purple flowers and yellow sun and turquoise water. Bless Our Planet!

[peaceandlove]

I think I'm starting to get a cold :nono:
I thought I wouldn't get one taking MMS

Blessings Swanny,

Hope your feeling better soon. Do you think it's just a detoxifying reaction or healing crisis?

[Camdoc]

MMS sound really cool! I'll have a try on it, too.

BTW, is there any natural source to get something simliar like MMS from?

WT
There is a product on the market called Liquid Oxygen, or something like that. It is found in a health food store for about $20 for an ounce. It is actually just MMS diluted to about a fifth of the strength, so you can use it the same way as MMS, but you need to use four or five times as much. So it is much more expensive. But, is available in the US, and has been for years. THat is actually where Jim Humble got the idea of using it.

Hydrogen peroxide is a naturally occurring substance that is similar in function to MMS. It is much less effective than MMS, and as you buy it, it is always produced by a chemical reaction, too.

I use vinegar instead of the citric acid, though I have citric acid on order. There is a nice balsamic vinegar that smells like caramel and vanilla, and it is pleasant to take.

[Swanny]

Blessings Swanny,

Hope your feeling better soon. Do you think it's just a detoxifying reaction or healing crisis?

Thx :original:
Not sure what it is, just feels yuk in my sinuses at the mo, like it does when you start to get a cold.
At the mo I have dropped back down to 6 drops as I cant get passed the runny bum stage hehe

[Old Snake]

Kimmie,

To totally get rid of swelling and pain, the homeopathic remedy
Symphytum 10M potency will do the job, just one pill!
Take before going to bed, you may feel some extra pain , wich will fade away, dreaming and a light fever may come up, wich will fade too.
Success.

Old Snake

(I am a classic homeopath)

[alyscat]

Swanny, the sinus stuff might be what PeaceandLove was talking about (posted from the Jim Humble Q&As) just before your post - I'm guessing (and hope I don't offend) that you're probably pretty filled with pathogens - I know I am - and in today's society, it's not uncommon - heck, they're even spraying them on us from airplanes these days.

alys

[Swanny]

Hi Alys :) I think your right, I reckon I'm full of the cr@p.
I think it's going to be a while before I clear it all out of my system.
But I wont give up with it, I want to be clean.:original:

[Connecting with Sauce]

Got mine today. 3 drops inside already with 15 citric :D

Not much activity on forum today is everyone on holiday?

[Peer]

Hi Swanny, (atchou, bless you) I know that when you antibiotics for sinusitis you get the running sh*t.
Then the sinusitis goes away.
After stopping the antibiotics the sh*t stops and as soon it is stopped the sinusitis will be back..
Sinusitis has to do with infected intestines.
Keep cleaning until it's over.
(Your large- and small intestine meridians also go over your face and influence your sinuses as well.)
There is a very good shiatsu treatment for sinusitis but I can't get to my files from here but if you want I will try to describe the procedure if you want to.
I haven't had sinusitis ever since I learned shiatsu (30 years ago) although I used to have it every year.

[Peer]

@ Camdoc:
very glad to have you posting on this thread.
Very interesting information.
You really know what you're talking about.
Keep up the good works.

[Swanny]

Thx Peer that makes a lot of sense as to how I've been for many years, looking forward to coming out the other side of this with a detoxed body :boxing:

[Peer]

As soon as I have the time I wil try to describe you the sinus treatment.
It's easy enough and it is a tremendous help and will also work on your intestines.
Maybe I find the time tonight

[alyscat]

My MMS came today - that was FAST - and I'm off to town to get the juice and distilled water. This should be interesting, as I've had gastric bypass, so the treatment won't sit in my stomach, but have to be absorbed through the intestines. I'm definitely going to take it slow and easy.

It's a stellar day. They've got my well dug, too, and are putting the lining in today.

alys

[alice goes nuts....]

i m still on mms.....not any revolutionary yet.....only diarrea, but i did not get what went around of virus stuff lately....:original:

[alyscat]

Well, I"m starting out a little weird. :original: I made my one drop/five drop dose for me, and took it with pineapple juice. (BTW, there's an acai juice that has no additional C, can I use it, does anyone know?)

Then I mixed up a second single drop/five drop dose, waited, and added 3 oz of water, and then filled up a syringe to the 3ml level, and gave it to my cat. Then I was sitting there with this almost filled glass with a dose, and didn't want to waste it, so I drank the rest. :blink:

My guess is that I'll keep him at that dosage for a long time, and will be drinking his left overs. My cat has a sneezing issue, and tends to runny noses.

alys

[peaceandlove]

??? Citric Acid, Vinegar, Lemon or Lime Activator ???

SODIUM CHLORITE The Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
By Walter Last - A Retired ND

Usage Instructions

Start with 1 or 2 drops of MMS and gradually increase up to 15 drops three times a day. Mix the MMS with an acid activator. Most recommended is a 10% solution of citric acid in water which you may make yourself by dissolving 1 spoonful of citric acid crystals in 9 parts of water. Citric acid tends to be available from supermarkets as an ingredient for baking. Acid activation releases chlorine dioxide.

Also lemon or lime juice may be used as activator, while vinegar is less recommended, presumably because cider vinegar may aggravate fungal problems. However I found white vinegar to be suitable. The usual recommendation is to add 5 times more acid than MMS. Drops from a standard glass eye dropper should be multiplied by 1.5 to equal the number of drops from the standard MMS bottle. However, different types of eye droppers, pipettes and bottle tops have different drop sizes, and you may standardize your dropper by counting how many drops from the MMS bottle and how many from your eye dropper are needed to fill a teaspoon or another suitable measure. A level teaspoon of MMS, lemon juice or 10% citric acid solution is about 80 drops. So a quarter teaspoon is about 20 drops.

Therefore, for easier use the drops of the acid do not need to be counted provided you make sure that you take more rather than less acid. When taking 15 drops of MMS you can mix it with a full teaspoon of acid, when taking 6 or 7 drops of MMS mix with half a teaspoon of acid, and generally take more or less acid according to the amount of MMS. Furthermore, 10% citric acid is about 5 times stronger than the other acids. Therefore to achieve the same results you may use more of the other acids compared to citric acid. The stronger the acid, the more chlorine dioxide is released within a short period. Therefore the chlorine dioxide smell is much stronger after acidifying with 10% citric acid, and equally the destructive effect on microbes and parasites is much higher. Therefore, difficult conditions, such as Lyme disease (caused by a virus transmitted by ticks) responded to 15 drops of MMS acidified with 10% citric acid but not if the other acids had been used.

Three minutes after adding the acids dilute with half a glass of water and additional herb tea, or juice without added vitamin C, e.g. apple or grape juice but not orange juice. The initial strong smell is now reduced as the chlorine dioxide remains dissolved in water rather than escaping into the air. Do not take any antioxidant supplements close to MMS.

Drink the diluted MMS in sips, possibly spaced out over an hour or two to minimize nausea. It acts best on an empty stomach but that also easily causes nausea. If that happens temporarily reduce the dose or have some food in the stomach. Alternatively you may take a dose, say 6 drops, and another 6 drops an hour later. Such a double dose seems to be more effective than a single dose two or three times during the day. The highest double dose would be with two times 15 drops, but few would be able to take this without vomiting.

It is best to take MMS just before going to bed. MMS works very fast, and people often become sleepy after taking a dose of MMS. Also, it is easier to cope with nausea if you can fall asleep. If you take MMS twice a day, take one of the doses in the evening before going to bed. However, some individuals have difficulty falling asleep after taking MMS.

Humble believes it is safe to give children MMS as needed. For children, underweight or overweight individuals the maximum dose is stated as 3 drops per 11.4 kg or 25 pounds of body weight. I would instead use 2-3 drops per 12 kg as a maximum dose.

For most conditions Humble regards the intensive MMS treatment as completed after taking 15 drops two or three times daily for one week. If you cannot reach this level then just remain somewhat longer at the highest dose that you can use. Following this Humble recommends a maintenance intake for older individuals of 6 drops daily and for younger individuals of 6 drops twice weekly.

My own preference is for a relatively high intake for several weeks twice a year or when indicated by a developing infection, and not using it for the rest of the time.

FREE Download ~ PART 1 of Jim Humble's Book available at authorized website:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost MMS and Citric Acid, low cost shipping, includes worldwide.

Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and click on FREE DOWNLOAD

[Swanny]

Aalys l think the mix goes off after a couple of hours so maybe not good to leave it in his bowl all day.
Good luck hope it fixes the cat :original:

I have a sore throat today so looks like I do have a cold comin :thumbdown:

[m3yn86d]

Hi all!!
Just got my delivery today. :original:
I have some questions:-
The instructions say that you must mix the citric acid with purified/demineralised water. It is impossible to get this where I am. Does using mineral water makes a huge difference? And, Does anyone know of anyone who has had any success using this with fibroids?
thanks!!

[Myplanet2]

Why is purified/demineralized water impossible to get where you are?

Have you thought of buying or making a distiller?

[Swanny]

Hi all!!
Just got my delivery today. :original:
I have some questions:-
The instructions say that you must mix the citric acid with purified/demineralised water. It is impossible to get this where I am. Does using mineral water makes a huge difference? And, Does anyone know of anyone who has had any success using this with fibroids?
thanks!!

I just use citric acid made with filtered tap water and pineapple juice

[m3yn86d]

Why is purified/demineralized water impossible to get where you are?

Have you thought of buying or making a distiller?

No Idea! Just mineral water sold here. In Spain at present.
Sounds basic but how can I get a distiller or make one? Do you know how long you have to wait after taking the solution?

[m3yn86d]

Thank you for this!!
If I got a n ordinary water filter, would this serve to do the job?I just use citric acid made with filtered tap water and pineapple juice

[Myplanet2]

No Idea! Just mineral water sold here. In Spain at present.
Sounds basic but how can I get a distiller or make one? Do you know how long you have to wait after taking the solution?

I never thought about the availability of Distilled water, because they sell it by the jug right next to the other drinking waters.

I'll look up some threads that cover water, and post link(s) here later.

But I'm pretty sure it's not too critical. I notice a mineral deposit on the citric acid solution dropper even though I use distilled water.

[m3yn86d]

I never thought about the availability of Distilled water, because they sell it by the jug right next to the other drinking waters.

I'll look up some threads that cover water, and post link(s) here later.

But I'm pretty sure it's not too critical. I notice a mineral deposit on the citric acid solution dropper even though I use distilled water.

thank you

[alyscat]

Thanks, Swanny.
Ivan gets all of his at one time, in a 3ml (which is also a 3cc) syringe. What is in his bowl for all day is plain water. It was Willard Water, but I picked that up and am now just putting down plain water. Since I have 2 other cats I'm not dosing, I might put the Willard Water back down in a couple of hours, and then pick it up for tonight.

Good luck with the sore throat. Wonder if it could be some sort of healing crisis...

Pam

Aalys l think the mix goes off after a couple of hours so maybe not good to leave it in his bowl all day.
Good luck hope it fixes the cat :original:

I have a sore throat today so looks like I do have a cold comin :thumbdown:

[Myplanet2]

This thread may help with the water distiller:

https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4973

[Camdoc]

1. mineral water. Mineral water with gas, or with a lot of bicarbonate, will buffer (cancel) out some of the citric acid, so you would need to use more. You should be able to find some bottled drinking water, no mineralado, and use that.
2. water filter. No, a water filter will not remove minerals. A Reverse Osmosis water filter will. THey are more expensive, though. Should be able to buy distilled water in Spain. Check at a farmacia, they will have it. On the other hand, this stuff will kill anything in tap water, so you could mix it with tap water.
3. citric acid THose deposits around the citric acid container top are not minerals, they are citric acid crystals. Taste them! :-)
4. vinegar--Vinegar does not, and cannot activate yeast. This is a strange myth that goes around the natropathic circles. (Nothing against NDs, who may understand this, but too many laypersons get this confused. Including Jim Humble.)

Vinegar is produced by bacteria breaking down sugar in the fruit juice. Some vinegar, such as wine vinegar, is produced by bacteria breaking down alcohol. This alcohol was produced by yeast, which made it by converting the sugar in the juice. So, in these kinds of vinegar, there may remain yeast byproducts.

People sensitive to yeast often have an allergy to yeast, and will react to their byproducts. So, they may react to the dead yeast, and their byproducts, in vinegars such as wine vinegar. But, the vinegar DOES NOT activate yeast, as many believe. Distilled vinegar (white vinegar) does not have the yeast byproducts, so is fine to use with MMS. Other vinegars are also fine, if you do not have a yeast sensitivity.
With my MD hat on.

[mntruthseeker]

After I was sick for two really bad days, I stopped using the MMS but I went back to colloidal. The MMS did help me but I am a coward.

My lungs still feel great but my ashma has gotten to the point that I need the oxygen more so for that now. My lungs actually feel clear where the emphysema was. I say was because I firmly believe the MMS cleared it. Using the nebulizer I have noticed that I am coughing up **** and as a special blessing it is very thin. I can see a big difference in the functioning of my lung and have even walked around without oxygen.

So thank you again Jim Humble and all of you that are putting down the information that you are.

I am putting colloidal silver in my nebulizer. My pharachist told me I looked good. I last seen him over a year ago when I could barely walk. My body was riddled with pain as I'm sure so many of us our now a days. I told him how I felt and what I was doing I gave him Jim Humbles name and asked him to look him up. He said he was looking for cures for cancer.

Anyhow, I will never forget that I used the MMS and still offered help to my family members.

[Swanny]

mntruthseeker maybe you should just take one drop a day??

[Peer]

No Idea! Just mineral water sold here. In Spain at present.
Sounds basic but how can I get a distiller or make one? Do you know how long you have to wait after taking the solution?

As far as I know the tap water in Spain is very chlorinated so I would not advise that but mineral water (without gas) will do fine.
Eventually you can sterilize it by cooking.
But you don' need too big a supply so just take mineral water without bubbles and you'll be fine.
Otherwise you should be able to get demineralized in a car shop because it is also used for car batteries and in steam-irons.
It's all the same.

[m3yn86d]

As far as I know the tap water in Spain is very chlorinated so I would not advise that but mineral water (without gas) will do fine.
Eventually you can sterilize it by cooking.
But you don' need too big a supply so just take mineral water without bubbles and you'll be fine.
Otherwise you should be able to get demineralized in a car shop because it is also used for car batteries and in steam-irons.
It's all the same.

I came across some water for irons and batteries and it said definaltely not for human consumption so I put it back but thanks for your advice anyway.
Another question. When the citric acid solution is made, how long does it last for?

[m3yn86d]

1. mineral water. Mineral water with gas, or with a lot of bicarbonate, will buffer (cancel) out some of the citric acid, so you would need to use more. You should be able to find some bottled drinking water, no mineralado, and use that.
2. water filter. No, a water filter will not remove minerals. A Reverse Osmosis water filter will. THey are more expensive, though. Should be able to buy distilled water in Spain. Check at a farmacia, they will have it. On the other hand, this stuff will kill anything in tap water, so you could mix it with tap water.
3. citric acid THose deposits around the citric acid container top are not minerals, they are citric acid crystals. Taste them! :-)
4. vinegar--Vinegar does not, and cannot activate yeast. This is a strange myth that goes around the natropathic circles. (Nothing against NDs, who may understand this, but too many laypersons get this confused. Including Jim Humble.)

Vinegar is produced by bacteria breaking down sugar in the fruit juice. Some vinegar, such as wine vinegar, is produced by bacteria breaking down alcohol. This alcohol was produced by yeast, which made it by converting the sugar in the juice. So, in these kinds of vinegar, there may remain yeast byproducts.

People sensitive to yeast often have an allergy to yeast, and will react to their byproducts. So, they may react to the dead yeast, and their byproducts, in vinegars such as wine vinegar. But, the vinegar DOES NOT activate yeast, as many believe. Distilled vinegar (white vinegar) does not have the yeast byproducts, so is fine to use with MMS. Other vinegars are also fine, if you do not have a yeast sensitivity.
With my MD hat on.

:original: I managed to get some reverse osmosis water from one of the parents I worked with tonight so I am starting in earnest now.

Anyone any ideas on the breast or uterrine fibroids/miomas thing? Would love to know.
Muchas gracias por todo.

[Swanny]

m3yn86d dont worry just use tap or bottled water, like Camdoc says the mms will purify the water anyway :thumb_yello:

[Ampgod]

UPDATE :

Date: November 27, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

*****************************************
Current Dose: None. I finished the 3 week test.
Test was done while virus was totally dormant.
No out breaks occured during this test.
*****************************************

NOTE:
I have stopped taking MMS as of yesterday.
I will make an appointment this week for my first herpes virus test.
I want to see if it's gone yet or not. I will continue a maintenance dose of 6 drops 3 times a week after my test.
Unless, I still have the virus.
Then I'd start back up again to 15,15,15.

I have found I don't really get sick at all.
But, it's not full proof.
I started to get a throat tonsil/cold type thing coming on. I immediately made and took 2 large cups of colloidal Silver during the day. I am already feeling better. :)

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.


Live Love, Seek Truth,
Ampgod

[Ampgod]

I do have a question if anyone can help me.

If i just stop MMS "cold turkey" would there be a backlash of some type?
Is it better to ween the dosage down slowly and then quit?
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.


I'm wondering if the tonsil/cold thing that came on was a reaction to quitting the MMS all at once???
Or maybe a food allergy???

(just brain storming here)


Thank you,

Ampgod

[Ampgod]

THIS IS INTERESTING.....

November 28th,

I woke up today, with with my lips sort of hard and puffy.
They are not red on outside at all an frankly should be breaking out with herpes blisters.
They are not! They just got puffy. My throat does still hurt a bit (tonsil area)
I decided to really go back on the MMS because if my immune system is fighting something that is when the herpes comes out to play.
So, Back on MMS 15, 15, 15 as of now.

This is very surprising and will be a good test as to what happens here to my lips. I don't see any sign here of herpes at all so far. They don't feel like they did before an outbreak this time. But they do feel funny. Puffy and slightly firm in the muscles of the lip area.

I am not exactly sure what is happening here.
I am not sure if it's even related to MMS at all.
Could be a food allergy as I ate everything in site the last 2 days. :)

* I did notice for the 2 days I was off the MMS my allergies made a comeback. (So MMS does help allergies)

I will keep you posted.

[alyscat]

Yes... is the diarrhea today yesterdays Thanksgiving eat-a-thon? or the 4 drops of MMS? I'm betting on Thanksgiving :mfr_lol:

[Ampgod]

November 29, 2008

Ok, here is my best guess as to what happened.
I was on very high doses of MMS and NOT taking any vitamin C into my body.
I then went off it all-at-once and my body was really lacking the vitamin C.
Therefore, I think it stands to reason that I became susceptible to cold immediately.

I should note that:
I used to have bad allergies. Especially this time of year.
When I came off the MMS my allergies resurfaced right away.
This also causes immune system to be low.

I did get my cold and usually my herpes simplex virus would show itself when my immunity was low.
This time it didn't. So that is promising.

I'm not sure which way to go at this point.
I guess a test would be a start.

Peace,
Ampgod

[alyscat]

Well, I'd kick back to 15 drops 2x a day and see if your cold, which normally lasts 6 or 7 days, is gone in 2 or so. I think that's the way it's supposed to work. <G>

BTW, thanks for being such a good reporter, ampgod. Because of your experience, I'm on my "trip" and so is my cat. :original:
alys

[Peer]

Hi Ampgod,
did you have colds as a child very often?
Could be an old problem coming back and saying hello on the way out.
I have seen this with homeopathic medicine as well.

[Sideshow Shaman]

November 29, 2008

Ok, here is my best guess as to what happened.
I was on very high doses of MMS and NOT taking any vitamin C into my body.
I then went off it all-at-once and my body was really lacking the vitamin C.
Therefore, I think it stands to reason that I became susceptible to cold immediately.

If anyone has any ideas about this please comment.



Ampgod, taking a single large dose of vit C halfway between MMS doses might work for you.

I have been taking MMS for a short time and tried to avoid C as well but missed it. Apparently the only downside to vit C is that it reduces the effectiveness of the MMS. When I had bad reactions to mms I was drinking vit c to reduce the reaction. Not sure how effective that was but it seemed to comfort.

[alyscat]

Boy, a half a glass of juice doesn't hide the taste very well once you get to 7 drops, does it? :sweatdrop:

And I still have a single drop does for my cat for tonite where I drink the rest. But fortunately, it will taste just fine. :mfr_lol:

alys

[Ampgod]

Thank you guys!

I'm just not sure about the vitamin C. I may take your advice and have a little here and there.
I still am not sure what happened here. Just guessing.

The cold is on it's way out now. I'm feeling better.
My throat does not hurt anymore.
(but I did use the Bob beck Magnetic Pulser for 2 hours on my lymph nodes of throat. Also 4 glasses over 2 days of colloidal Silver.)

I figured I should keep hitting the MMS just incase there is something still lurking around.

I was happy to see my lips NOT looking irritated.
Just before a breakout they have a certain look.
This time the lip color looked normal all the way through my throat sickness/cold.
So something good is happening there for sure. :)

[Peer]

Good for you man.
Very pleased to read you're feeling better.

[Ampgod]

Hi Ampgod,
did you have colds as a child very often?
Could be an old problem coming back and saying hello on the way out.
I have seen this with homeopathic medicine as well.

Hello Peer,

I have always had colds. Yes.

I was the kid that got every little virus/bug that was flying around.
My allergies always kept my immunity lower then most.
My allergies didn't seem that bad until later in my life.
They got to a point where they were very severe and sometimes would cause me to have to stay in bed.
I imagine just detoxing helped that a bunch.
Now, I can clearly see an approximate 95% improvement when taking MMS.
So as for allergies I am completely sold on MMS and Highly recommend it.
I will use it every year at this time of year at the very least.

As for allergy dosages I'm not sure what will be needed for others.
They will have to find the magic number of drops for there body.


Peace,
Ampgod

[Peer]

I suppose you have had al vaccinations you can think of then.
Those are most likely the source of catching up with everything that flies and hangs around.
Vaccinations kill your immunity system.
A good classical homeopath can help you get rid of the vaccination damage even after 30 or 40 years and that will most likely be the end then of your allergy history without havin to take MMS all the time.
Classical homeopathy even goes into the energetical level where there is nothing more even for MMS to react with.
I know there are classical homeopaths on the forum so if they could please step forward and tell their story. :trumpet:

You will find all info on that subject here:

http://www.tinussmits.com/english/

[Swanny]

I tried using homeopathy to get rid of a wart, but it didnt work so I lost faith in it :sneaky2:

[Peer]

Had a car once, wouldn't start.:old:
Been walkin' ever since..

Have seen miracles with homeopathy though like having rheumatic pains for over half a year so bad that I could not lift an arm anymore and getting rid of the pain overnight after taking one dose of the right thing.

[mudhog92]

Been doing MMS for a week, at first I thought I gulped pool water! My aches pains I've had for some time are going away. I went to my class reunion, drank like a fish, never got drunk :-( or hungover ;-). Good stuff so far!

[lastmimzy]

As I mentioned, I have a stem cell lab in Ecuador. Got tired of getting arrested or raided in the States. One of the things that umbilical cord stem cells seems to be working for is Multiple Sclerosis, a disease of the "insulations cells" around the "wires" (axons) in the spinal cord.

THese cells (Schwann cells) get attacked by the body's immune system. Like the pancreatic Islet Cells get attacked in type I Diabetes. Why should that happen? Why should the body be attacking itself?

Well, one reason seems to be mercury toxicity, as has been mentioned on this thread. Another seems to be a chronic viral illness. Viruses that seem to be associated with MS include Measles, Epstein-Barr Virus (infectious Mononucleosis), Cytomegalovirus, and Human Herpesvirus 6.

The last three of these viruses are herpes viruses, related to Herpes Simplex or Genital Herpes. As you may know, herpes viruses set up housekeeping in the nerve cells, and during times of stress, when the immune system is not vigilant enough, they reactivate, multiply, and express as a cold sore or herpetic lesion. These other viruses are more likely to cause a chronic illness, chronic fatigue syndrome. And as for measles, it is now administered as an attenuated virus that is designed to live forever in the body--a vaccine.

As the body makes antibodies to fight these viruses, it seems that some of them cross-react and attack normal human tissues. Kind of like "collateral damage", when the attack of some US jets tends to wipe out an Afghan wedding party. (WIth diabetes, the body is having a reaction to cows milk protein that has been modified by pasteurization, but that is a different story.) In MS, the Schwann Cells seem to be the ones attacked.

Well, it makes sense that reducing the amount of virus in the body would reduce the body's production of antibodies against that virus. So, here is the point of all of this, I recommend to the MS patients that they go through a full course of MMS, up to 15 drops twice a day, to get rid of the virus (the cause), before they get stem cell grafts. That way, the graft will not be wasted by the body attacking the newly repaired cells.

Similarly, I also recommend MMS to MOST stem cell recipients. Stem cells are like little "search and repair" nanorobots. They travel around and look for lesions to repair. IF the body is full of yeast, toenail fungus, abnormal intestinal bacterial, inflammed gut, etc, then the stem cells will go there, iinstead of the place we want them to go. Fortunately, the MMS will clean out the infection, and most of the time, the inflammation, that we are worried about. Then, the stem cells can go where we want them to go, and do their thing.

Thought you might find that interesting!
Blessings,
Dr. Dan
www.stemtechlab.com


Very good information; excellent posting. I've been aggressively researching the MMS since September and started administering dosages to myself about two weeks ago. I'm sort of a self-learned proponent of homeopathic and holistic methods [50 years]~~mostly my passion is botanical medicine. I've had success in this area with other peoples' health afflictions, and some my own. Recently decided to add MMS to my potpourri of healing "assistances".
I wanted to ask you what your opinion is, having to do with taking the MMS on top of food, versus an empty stomach, or semi-empty stomach. I know that systemic enzymes work completely different, depending on whether they're ingested with food, or on empty stomach; they actually [I]do different things[I] , perform a different activity, versus which way they are ingested.

[mu2143]

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[Camdoc]

I wanted to ask you what your opinion is, having to do with taking the MMS on top of food, versus an empty stomach, or semi-empty stomach. I know that systemic enzymes work completely different, depending on whether they're ingested with food, or on empty stomach; they actually [I]do different things[I] , perform a different activity, versus which way they are ingested.

If you take Hydrogen peroxide orally, on a full stomach, most of the activity of the peroxide is spent oxidizing the food in the stomach. Peroxide is also broken down by an enzyme called "catalase", which is present in saliva and blood. (Try using peroxide on a blood stain, or rinsing your mouth with it, and you will see what I mean.)

MMS is not broken down by catalase, but its activity still seems to be used up at least partially by the food in the stomach, which is oxidized by the MMS. So, in order to get the strongest effect of MMS, use it on an empty stomach. If you can't "stomach it" that way, then using it with food in your stomach is better than not using it at all!

[Tuuco]

Hi

I have ordered MMS and should be recieving it any day in the mail now. I am currently seeing a Naturopathic doctor here in Toronto and I am taking a bunch of products which I will list below. I would like to take MMS while continuing with the protocol that my ND layed out for me.

Will any of these proucts prevent MMS from working or worse cause any adverse reactions?

AOR classic series - MACA

Vitazan - Mercury Shield - each capsule contains 500 mg N-Acetyl-Cysteine, 200 mg VitaminC and 50 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid

Pleo Sancom - contains 5ml Mucor racemosus, 5ml Aspergillus

Synergistics - Digestant #2 Enzymes

Pleo Citro - Citric Acid

Rejuvenate Cell Therapy with Fulvic Acid

Ambrosia - Liquid Chi - an assortment of minerals

I will probably discuss this with my ND before taking MMS but my guess is that he will recommend that I stay on my current regime and not introduce anything else at this time. Thats why I am posting this information looking for a 2nd opinion. The protocol that I am on is helping me, but I have been dealing with this issue for over 10 years now and my main discomforts are poor digestion, constant bloating, no sex drive, deep seeded tiredness(even though my energy levels are good) and a feeling that something has a grip on my nervous system. I have seen many different MD's/Specialist and no diagnosis has ever been made.

Any reply will be appreciated.

[peaceandlove]

Hi
Vitazan - Mercury Shield - each capsule contains 500 mg N-Acetyl-Cysteine, 200 mg VitaminC and 50 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid


;) Blessings Tuuco,

Jim Humble definitely recommends taking Vitamin C 4 hours away from any MMS and Activator ingestion. It will negate the effect of the MMS. It's also recommended to not take any prescriptions within 4 hours of the MMS and Activator protocol as the oxidation will break down the chemicals and toxins in the pharmaceuticals.

Begin reading about MMS by downloading the Free Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at this authorized website:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost MMS and Activator and low cost shipping, including worldwide.

Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and click on FREE DOWNLOAD. More information regarding protocol under MMS PROTOCOL on home page. 'New' 3rd Edition book also available there.

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;) SEE MANY MORE PREVIOUS POSTS BY PEACEANDLOVE STARTING ON PAGE #2, POST #33 regarding safety and protocol.

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[lastmimzy]

Two different "empty stomach" methods for taking MMS (or any other medicinal concoction): [1]....ok; so yer a little bit hungry; you know you have an empty stomach~~you take the MMS; and maybe within a few minutes, or fairly soon~~you eat. [2nd 'empty stomach method']; ....a bit hungry=empty stomach~~down with the MMS. Only, this time you don't eat; also try to drink minimal or 'no' fluids. I try to go at least 2 hours after taking it, before I eat something. No matter what degree of hunger you had before ingesting the MMS~~you won't have hunger after you drink the mixture down.
Even if you go another couple hours without food. If one will actually experiment around with these different "ways" to ingest the MMS, they will be curious, having to do with 'different'(?) results.

[mkatona]

Hi, I am new to this group. I have just started taking MMS, and have been researching it very thoroughly in forums on the web.

I found a forum post that says if you eat an apple when you take the MMS, it will not make you sick or give you diarrhea. The apple absorbs toxins produced by MMS and prevents the nausea and diarrhea. This is according to Jim Humble himself.

I am on my second dose of 2 drops today. Working slowly upwards. No nausea or sickness, but that must mean the apple works!

[justbe]

Hi everyone, can someone please explain the difference between what MMS does and what antioxidants do. From my understanding its opposing processes. "The process of oxidation in the human body damages cell membranes and other structures including cellular proteins, lipids and DNA. When oxygen is metabolised, it creates ‘free radicals’ which steal electrons from other molecules, causing damage." "Antioxidants are found in certain foods that neutralise free radicals."
So heres my confusion, antioxidants function as detoxifying the body by neutralising free radicals caused by oxidation.

[Plan 9]

Just got my MMS in the mail today. I have a question that I don't think has been addressed yet. Since the MMS kills bacteria, does it also target "good" bacteria? What about taking probiotics? Thanks for your help.

ETA- I found an answer in one of the posts on page 3, but I'd still like to hear some ideas on MMS and probiotics.

[peaceandlove]

I have a question that I don't think has been addressed yet. Since the MMS kills bacteria, does it also target "good" bacteria? What about taking probiotics? Thanks for your help.

;) Blessings Plan 9,

Hope this answers your question. Here is some information from Jim Humble's Website:

2. Finette (a critic) claims Jim made a false statement: Good bacteria can't be harmed "What about GOOD bacteria that thrive in ACID environments ( almost all of the probiotics like lactobacillus). What is ingesting an alkaline doing to THEM??? while many can't make it past stomach acids, some DO and others do well in the slightly less acid but NOT alkaline GI tract, beyond the stomach, as well. if ANY bacteria or viruses are harmed, so too will the “good” bacteria."

2. Jim’s Answer: "Finnette doesn’t understand the chemistry. MMS is not alkaline, it is acid, so one is not ingesting an alkaline. Harming the pathogens has to do with oxidizing them. The oxidization process does not care if the environment is acidic or alkaline. The good bacteria is not harmed because good bacteria is aerobic bacteria. The chlorine dioxide has the weakest oxidization potential of all the oxidizers and it simply does not have the strength to harm aerobic bacteria."

Download for FREE Part 1 of Jim Humble's book here:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and the 9th post under that heading is the link for the FREE Download

[Plan 9]

Thank you so much for your reply, peaceandlove! I just took my first dose (1 drop). Now I wait and see. I was looking at the posts to see if MMS should be taken on an empty stomach. To eat or not to eat- that is the question :lol3:. So many different answers, but I guess whatever works best for your body is what you should do.

[SplatPantZ]

I was looking at the posts to see if MMS should be taken on an empty stomach. To eat or not to eat- that is the question :lol3:.

Hey Plan 9, I took my first steps yesterday!

After a fairly hefty meal at my inlaws i returned home and made up the citric acid solution.

I used a 2/10 drop combination to start off with, about 2 hours after eating.

This morning i made up a 4/20 combi (before eating) with nothing to note effect wise.

Tonight i will go 5/25 After eating.

My toilet is not far away :winksmiley02:

:wub2:

[Ampgod]

Hey Plan 9, I took my first steps yesterday!

After a fairly hefty meal at my inlaws i returned home and made up the citric acid solution.

I used a 2/10 drop combination to start off with, about 2 hours after eating.

This morning i made up a 4/20 combi (before eating) with nothing to note effect wise.

Tonight i will go 5/25 After eating.

My toilet is not far away :winksmiley02:

:wub2:

Hello guys.

My stomach could not take it after a certain amount of drops so I definitely needed food. I used oatmeal. Had a few big bites, waited a few min, and then drank my MMS in a small amount (1/2 cup) pomegranate juice.

At high drops like 10-15 I think for sure your stomach will bother you.
Just guessing there. Everyone is different but I personally could not handle without food and juice.

Hope that helps.
Peace,
Ampgod

[learning]

hey guys just got my kit yesterday, started it today, doing the drink, and the spray for my acne, already seeing results on the acne

[peaceandlove]

While perusing the internet on MMS I ran across this testimony from a person with Multiple Sclerosis symptoms.

Sounds encouraging.

Multiple Sclerosis

Testimony of MMS usage from September 27th 2007 to March 2008.

I have taken MMS for 5 months. I have had Multiple Sclerosis and have improved my symptoms over the years with many holistic therapies and treatments. I always found some of the symptoms would re occur in time. I came to the belief that Multiple Sclerosis is pathogen based and the immune system is overwhelmed and started attacking the central nervous system and myelin. I believe as long as the pathogens are active the MS disease will remain a problem.

I found MMS and thought this is the answer to the pathogen problems. I started out very low and remained at 3 drops several times a day for over a month. I noticed my nails improving right away. They lost the dullness and started to shine. they also lost the ridges and lumps. I noticed the white foam which I took to be yeast die off. I have seen my pre cancer lumps drop off. I have seen lymph congestion diminish.. I have seen lymph nodules reduced. The functions of my lungs, Kidneys, bowels, and skin, have improved. My balance problems, aches and stiffness as well as spasms from MS have been absent for over two months. My sleep and digestion are much improved. I am no longer snoring, My skin looks better and the age spots are gone. My skin is starting to tighten on my arms, face, neck, upper and lower legs. My balance is much improved. My stiffness has subsided. An ear infection which I have had for 10 years has cleared. My sinus is clearing and my voice has changed due to open sinus passages. My voice is stronger. . I may have left out a few improvements as there seems to be no area which MMS hasn't improved.

I believe improvements are a result of doing the MMS protocol. I have worked up to 10 drops 3 to 4 times a day. I also am doing a lot to keep all systems evacuating. I also am taking enzymes although for the first month I didn't do this. Hope this is helpful. Are you dealing with Systemic Yeast? Many people have Candida Yeast and it is very destructive. I also have been diagnosed with Lime's disease, mycoplasma, Epstein Barr, chlymedia pneumonia, Black Berry Mold infection and various staph infections. I am drinking more water and my thirst has returned. I don't crave the foods or drinks which are bad for me.

Marlene WA


Lots of archived material on this website under ABOUT MMS including Free Download to Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

[lightwalker]

Hello,

I have read 80 % of this "sticky" posting on MMS. It is great. I have learned much and still more to learn.

I started this program 4 days ago and was nauseated when I did 2 drops. However I have done 2 things that have helped. In the beginning I downed a full glass of water after mixing and was breathing the unpleasant smell. So I did this:

When the mix was 3 minutes activated I poured maybe 2 inches of water in the glass, took a deep breath, let it out, and while holding my breath out I drank the small amount of mix easily and then switched to a full glass of water, emptying it immediately.

As far as I can tell with this stuff for me, there really is no taste. It is the odor which is challenging. Also I stay away from the glass while it is doing it's thing cus again the odor can really traumatize your senses.

Eating an apple also helps.

The 2nd thing I do with the nausea is I use the Emotional Freedom Tapping and that takes care of it for the most part and if it comes back I just tap some more. 2 rounds of tapping is all I do.

I do have a question just for my own need to know. First off, I am also involved in doing ONDAMED which is a modality for healing and now they are going into anti-aging. Which is VERY exciting, and they are getting results.
They are always talking about FREE RADICALS and that it is FREE RADICALS that actually cause aging. My question is if anyone can answer is...

What is the difference between FREE RADICALS and PATHOGENS ?

(btw I have tried to google a simple answer to this)

Maybe "PEACEANDLOVE" can throw in his 2 cents worth.....your posting are much appreciated.

Thanks everybody for their input here.

lightwalker

[SamWhiteHopi]

A possible supplier in Australia?? I’ll email them. But sounds like it is just advertising it as a DIY. Being in Darwin it isn’t the easiest thing buying small quantities of the needed ingredients. So far smallest quantity of Citric Acid comes in 3kg bags, so will have to phone around the chemists. And Sodium Chlorite [31%] comes in 25kg bags!!! I’ll phone our major Chemists in Darwin on Monday.
http://www.kestrelmoonsong.com/therapies.html [Bottom of page]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tZ22UEQwU YouTube video with a guy adding MMS to the Citric Acid Solution to get our Chlorine dioxide. Claims to have cancer. He was given three months to live three years ago. Lots of other videos as well, but haven’t the time to view them.

Found this also for skin absorption application of MMS, lowers side effects. Deals with cancer.
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/Chlorine_Dioxide.html

I really must try and get some as my charge, Robert, has a very bad skin condition and this might help. I could do with the stuff also. And for my dog who has a deadly allergy which has nearly killed him twice and needed urgent vet attention.

Love&peace,
Sam

[alyscat]

If the smell is an issue, one thing that might help would be to drink it in a sippy cup. A lot of people gag on protein drinks, but they need the protein, so we always tell them to drink it in sippy cups or one of those glasses that have a lid and straw.
alys

[SplatPantZ]

can this stuff be obtained in the uk..? is this the stuff henry deacon spoke of?

Hi, i got mine from here: http://www.the-natural-choice.co.uk/product.php?productid=16373&cat=0&page=1

Im up to 13/65 drops no problems always take after eating.

My rash is no longer active, yippee!!

:wub2:

[msgloryus]

On one of the sites was an instruction for using MMS topically in conjunction with DMSO. The argument being you could add the DMSO (according to the instructions) and apply the batch (with 15 drops ) twice in one hour increments. Then do this for 10 days.
I had worked up to 6 drops a day by mouth feeling lousy most of the time so I tried the full dose with DMSO this morning. so far I feel great!And it hasn't upset my stomach.
Sorry I don't have the link.

WAIT! HERE IT IS

http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/Transdermal_Application_of_MMS.html

[mntruthseeker]

I have a question that you may not like.

I took MMS for two weeks and got super sick so laid off. I felt good at this time and was thinking I missed my only call to healthy lungs.

My lungs are still clear and I have been around so many sick people that this is a plus.

Who knows maybe I did what I set out to do. I have a broken bone in my nose so it makes it very hard to clear my sinuses. Just what I "don't" need to breathe correctly

My question to Peer is this......How do I flush my sinuses with MMS as I doubt that will cause me to get so sick. I am pretty sure what ever I did already worked.

I went back on my Colloidal and that seems to work but its way too much work. Like everyone else, I want an easy effective cure. I just can't get myself to drink the MMS again.

All my life I have been a finicky eater and nothing saves me from the vomiting if I think it's going to happen. For that reason I can't even enjoy a drink.......boring cheap date I always was.

But if I can use this in a nebulizer or some other way I would like to try it.

Thanks

[WalkingTurtle]

Hi all! It felt a kind of good taking it until now and my always congested nose started opening with the first drop. I'm on drop 14 now and I started to feel really bad. My stomach doesn't take it any more and I started coughing and my occasional rash on my hands came again. I'm not sure what to do now, if I should go to a lower dosage or simpy stop taking it at all. I just I can't stand the smell and taste any more.

WT

[SplatPantZ]

I'm not sure what to do now, if I should go to a lower dosage or simpy stop taking it at all. I just I can't stand the smell and taste any more.

WT

Hey WT, i read that if this happens you should reduce the amount so you are comfortable but keep going!

Good luck (back off a few drops and try again).

Also perhapse a different juice to go with it?

:wub2:

[EarthBowl]

Hi
Someone must have mentioned this already- but it really helps me. Plug your nose before bringing to smelling distance. Keep your nose plugged till you down your drink after taking the dose. I do this when wheatgrass smell/taste gets to me and it blocks 60-90% of the smell-taste.

[alyscat]

It reads as though, if you were doing 12 drops a day (6 in am, 6 in pm?), you would do a single dose of 3 drops MSM plus the activator, then the DMSO. Do that and then an hour later, do the next 3 drops the same way, then an hour later, the next 3 drops, and then an hour later the last 3 drops. At least this is how I'm reading it. Am I correct or confused LOL?

Or are you doing 6 drops each time with activator and DMSO, so in essence you would have doubled the amount of MSM you're taking.

I'm confused (which is not surprising).
alys

On one of the sites was an instruction for using MMS topically in conjunction with DMSO. The argument being you could add the DMSO (according to the instructions) and apply the batch (with 15 drops ) twice in one hour increments. Then do this for 10 days.
I had worked up to 6 drops a day by mouth feeling lousy most of the time so I tried the full dose with DMSO this morning. so far I feel great!And it hasn't upset my stomach.
Sorry I don't have the link.

WAIT! HERE IT IS

http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/Transdermal_Application_of_MMS.html

[Machinamentum]

YaY!!!! :tongue2:

I just got my bottle'o'mms in the mail...

I'll let ya know how it goes...

:roll1:

[peaceandlove]

;) More on Oxidation and Antioxidants found on the Internet

Quote by Jim Humble regarding Oxidation and Heavy Metals:

"MMS oxidizes the heavy metals within the body. I believe this because there have been a number of tests where the hair roots were checked before and after taking MMS. Afterwards, the heavy metals were gone. That includes mercury and lead and several other metals. Unfortunately, hair root testing is not totally accurate, but it is a good indication. Oxidation of the heavy metals is not the same process as chelating, but the results are the same. When a heavy metal is oxidized it is neutralized and is simply washed out of the body."

Article found at: http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/antioxidants-balance-and-mms/

Posted by: phaelosopher | February 14, 2008
Antioxidants, Balance, and MMS
It’s a wonderful thing when readers post thoughtful, intelligent questions. The one below was submitted by R.P., on MMS.

Q: For a long time holistic medicine has stressed ANTIoxidants as one way to ensure good health. Now MMS comes along as a helpful oxidizer. I understand the benefits and basic chemistry of MMS, since I’ve read a lot about it. But I’m confused regarding the opposite nature of the traditional ANTIoxidant advice and the advice to use MMS - an oxidizer. It would seem like an antioxidant would neutralize the effect of an oxidant.

It’s also great when another reader answers the question, as R.C. did below.

A: I am new to all this but could not help noticing Stephen Schiller’s comment about antioxidants and Miracle Mineral doing the opposite so it must be bad for you. I think it is worthwhile remembering that the oxygen we breath is an oxidizing agent as is ozone which is also used for sterilization purposes amongst many other uses. The key as always is balance. In current modern society, it is impossible to escape from toxins. Over time therefore the body’s mechanisms for detoxification get overwhelmed, the immune system gets overstretched and we start to get sick according to our inherited genetic weaknesses. Anything therefore that helps the body rid itself of toxins is always welcome. You will notice in the Miracle Mineral protocol that you go up to a maximum, hold it for just a week then drop down to a much lower maintenance dose that is not too oxidizing but at the same time continues to aid the immune system. So in fairness to Miracle Mineral, I think a balance is being struck. Do not forget that at the end of the day, it is your internal wisdom that should be leading you so learn to listen to it.

In my documentary, Understanding MMS: Conversations with Jim Humble, Dr. John Humiston addressed this same issue. He pointed out that we breath only 21% oxygen from the atmosphere; that we don’t want, or actually aren’t designed to handle 100% oxygen. So our body naturally produces antioxidants.

Start learning about MMS by downloading for FREE Part 1 of Jim Humble's book from authorized website:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping, includes worldwide.

Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and about 9 posts down is FREE DOWNLOAD link.

MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality.

Also check out previous posts by peaceandlove regarding protocol and frequently asked questions starting on page #2, post #33.

[peaceandlove]

:cheers:Two Juices reported to mask the taste of MMS.

Personally, when I got up to 7 or 8 drops and noticed an aversion I started adding 50/50, water and unfiltered apple juice to the activated MMS solution, available for about $6.99 (price went up) per gallon and comes in a glass container which is great for water storage. I started out with straight unfiltered apple juice, but found out 50/50 was adequate. (Stretching the dollar!) Keep lid loose on apple juice while in the refrigerator.

These two blogs from: phaelosopher.wordpress.com

By: phaelosopher on March 19, 2008
at 10:23 am

Robert,

Also, a friend recommended using pomegranate juice to wash the MMS down with. I tried it today, and it totally masks the taste of the MMS, and I can almost say it tastes good.

By: Marita on March 23, 2008
at 2:44 pm

I am now on 11 drops a day of MMS and had been really struggling with the taste. For the past 2 days I have used pure organic apple juice with the mix and there’s absolutely no yukky taste to contend with.


http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

[msgloryus]

Oh well Alyscat, I am confused most of the time myself.
WHAT I DID:
Mixed up a 15 drop dose with the citric acid waited 3 mins and added !/4 tsp of DMSO.
Rubbed the whole dose on my skin.
Waited an hour and did it again
Waited an hour and did it again.
Oh man! my nose started to run, dry cough, wheezing, felt awful.
OK, I overdid it-It has been 24 hours since I was so foolish and I am feeling much better.
Today I have gone back to taking it orally (9 drops)

I THINK(always a dangerous thing) the MMS is probably more effective used
topically but be careful not to over do it (as I am wont to do)

[Robski]

Hi all,

I started taking MMS 5 days ago initially started off with 6 drops and have dropped to 5 instead. I find the smell to be ok as long as you can drink the whole glass as if you were in a bar competition.

The results are amazing. I feel that I have greater energy at he gym and no longer have the morning symptom appearance when I wake up.

[WalkingTurtle]

Does anybody know if there is a German translation of the Jim Humble book? Thanks!

WT

[WalkingTurtle]

Wow! This stuff really works! I've had a swollen wrist for some months and now it's gone! Yesterday it hurt a little more than usual and today morning it was gone.

For anyone wanting to know. Here's my MMS calendar (drops as last number):

28.11.08 22:00 1
29.11.08 9:37 2
29.11.08 21:52 3
After 3 drops I'm feeling really good and more vital than usual.

30.11.08 9:00 4
30.11.08 21:05 5
1.12.08 22:36 5
2.12.08 9:00 6
It's getting tough to drink the juice because of the strong scent and the unusual taste.

2.12.08 22:37 7
3.12.08 9:27 8
3.12.08 22:20 8
4.12.08 7:55 9
4.12.08 21:43 10
5.12.08 6:44 11
5.12.08 22:34 12
6.12.08 10:00 13
6.12.08 20:51 14
7.12.08 11:03 14
I stopped taking it because I got sick and I was pretty down.

Then I started again at a lower dosage. I'm preparing it now outside on the windowsill and leaving the window closed during the 3 minutes. Then I pour apple juice in and drink it with a closed nose as fast as I can.
8.12.08 21:43 5
9.12.08 7:43 6
9.12.08 21:37 10
10.12.08 7:38 12
And now my wrist is fine again!

WT

[WalkingTurtle]

Does anybody know if there is a German translation of the Jim Humble book? Thanks!

I found it:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5839423/Jim-Humble-MMS-Zusatzinformationen

And also Book 2:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5835640/humble-mms-part-2

WT

[Peer]

I have a question that you may not like.

I took MMS for two weeks and got super sick so laid off. I felt good at this time and was thinking I missed my only call to healthy lungs.

My lungs are still clear and I have been around so many sick people that this is a plus.

Who knows maybe I did what I set out to do. I have a broken bone in my nose so it makes it very hard to clear my sinuses. Just what I "don't" need to breathe correctly

My question to Peer is this......How do I flush my sinuses with MMS as I doubt that will cause me to get so sick. I am pretty sure what ever I did already worked.

I went back on my Colloidal and that seems to work but its way too much work. Like everyone else, I want an easy effective cure. I just can't get myself to drink the MMS again.

All my life I have been a finicky eater and nothing saves me from the vomiting if I think it's going to happen. For that reason I can't even enjoy a drink.......boring cheap date I always was.

But if I can use this in a nebulizer or some other way I would like to try it.

Thanks

Sorry for not answering sooner but we've been away for a few days and this is the first time I am at the PC again.
A nebulizer would be okay but you could also suck it in through your nose just from a straw or from out of your hand.
You could even inject it intradermally (under the skin) and it wil give great results as well.
I used it with an inhaler (3 drops/15acid and HOT water) and inhale the fumes and got rid of a cold instantly and that will also clean your sinuses.
For clearing your sinuses you can also apply Shiatsu.
I promised Swanny already to put a pic here but I can not get to my files as they are about 10.000 miles away.
Nevertheless I will place it as soon as I am home again but that will take another week.
Shiatsu is another thing everybody should learn.
It is easy to learn and a great help for those who can't afford doctorbills and for those around you.
Maybe a short course on line but on another thread.:thumb_yello:

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Hs anybody used this? Its better than colloidal silver apparently.

http://www.oxysilver.com/

[franciejones]

My husband and I want to try MMS for general health issues/purposes and are not sure how to procede. Do we need the book? Do we need the activator? Someone PM if you feel so inclined. I was waiting to see Bills interview but would prefer to order now if I can.

Thanks-Francie

[alyscat]

Initially, I'd order the kit form one of the suppliers - it's only like $20 for a year's supply.

Then, if you want, you can start looking for the supplies to make your own.

You don't "need" the activator (you can use one of the ones recommended in the book), but it does work the best.

Part 1 of the book is available free online, and the second half does cost about $12 - and can be downloaded, if you want.

Jim Humble does not sell the product, BTW. He just discovered it.

alys

[mntruthseeker]

Thanks Peer

You know for three days now I have been walking around my house without oxygen. My husband wants me to plug in at night but I keep it at the 1st level. so thats one liter.............I'm so happy to be free. I want to go in to all those horrid classes I took and tell everyone all about MMS.

I put it in a small squirting bottle I bought offline with my colloidal silver products and spray it in my nostrils. Man, I couldn't be happier.

The only trouble I have with my lungs now is ashma attacks when I get near perfumed odors. I wish people that think they need tons of perfume or candles going would just be a little more considerate. I am truly lucky that I found this thread. I never would of tried mms otherwise.

I am excited to show off to my family. I tell everyone but when they see how "healthy" I am they will be jealous

Oh yeah, my husband is finally a believer in my colloidal silver. He had scorisis pretty bad and two applications cleared it up ASAP. First application stopped the itching and the second cleared it up.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Hs anybody used this? Its better than colloidal silver apparently.

http://www.oxysilver.com/

anyone?

[Swanny]

http://www.vitalundfitmit100.de/epages/61507702.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61507702/Products/0001

Anyone speak German here?
How do I pay I cant see the add to cart button.
This is a great price :)

Thx for help

[lightbeing]

http://www.vitalundfitmit100.de/epages/61507702.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61507702/Products/0001

Anyone speak German here?
How do I pay I cant see the add to cart button.
This is a great price :)

Thx for help

Hi Swanny,

Don't speak german, but near the bottom of the page,there is
a little cart and the text: "Hinzufügen zum Warenkorb". Just click on the cart or text and u have added the product in your cart.

"Warenkorb" means "cart"

On the left of the cart there is a + and - sign, you can change the amount you would like to order.

Good luck!
By the way, great prices!!

Namaste
lightbeing

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

anyone?

guess not. :(

[peaceandlove]

Project Camelot interviews Jim Humble, the man behind MMS: Miracle Mineral Supplement


Viewing choices available at this Project Camelot link: .mp4, .mov, .wmv, mp3 audio, google video stream, and youtube video
http://projectcamelot.org/jim_humble.html

Google Direct:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6593978357720011886&ei=7EJXSZrbLpCq-wGE84yrAQ&q=jim+humble+project+camelot&hl=en

Thank you for the great interview!



The following site has low prices for MMS & Activator and low cost shipping includes worldwide. (Nice bottle dropper tops dispense without extra drops coming out.)

FREE DOWNLOAD of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book available here: Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll down to MMS RESOURCES

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending to clients or customers.

[Swanny]

Thx lightbeing I managed to get some of the way but have got lost in the address page, I will have to take my time with a translator
Well worth doing as it's really cheap from there :original:

[alyscat]

Just finished listening to the interview with Humble. It's good (IMHO) -
alys

[ENdJOY]

GOOD! made me cry, I was so proud of this man, he made me proud to be human again... I immediately bought a bottle of his MMS (and the activator)...why not?

[Jonathon]

I agree - seems like a truly honorable man. I have been considering MMS for quite some time now. The interview got me over the hump, so to speak. I just purchased some to try.

Question - anyone have a theory on the effects of oxidation on internal plaques? Could MMS have an impact on the agent by which heart attack, strokes and alzheimers occur? I assume no, however I would love to hear an educated explanation.

[mntruthseeker]

Eyes wide open.


I have some of the oxysilver and yes its fabulous

They actually use this to cure aids in Africa but you know I am not so sure it's as good as the MMS. It's just a whole lot easier to handle. No getting sick

I think it's on the same order as the colloidal silver but it has vegetable oil same as flax oil. Anyhow, people say it does cure aids.

[BROOK]

After reading all the praise for mms, and having been very sick over the holidays with a nasty virus, I've taken the plunge, and ordered mine yesterday.
The video was very compelling, he seems like an honorable man, doing some very much needed work for the sick who are unable to get the help they desperately need. Cheers to Jim Humble :trumpet:

[alyscat]

MMS works on pathogens. If the plaques are exacerbated by pathogens, I'd guess that it would work.
alys

I agree - seems like a truly honorable man. I have been considering MMS for quite some time now. The interview got me over the hump, so to speak. I just purchased some to try.

Question - anyone have a theory on the effects of oxidation on internal plaques? Could MMS have an impact on the agent by which heart attack, strokes and alzheimers occur? I assume no, however I would love to hear an educated explanation.

[peaceandlove]

:wub2: PLEASE NOTE REGARDING HEART CONDITIONS:

I have read that it is important to start very slow if a person has heart issues or plaque. Scroll down to post #446 regarding plaque.

Jim Humble's website: http://mmsadvisor.com has a wealth of information regarding different issues people are dealing with. Look on the right side of the page for a list under Categories and Topics, click on any one of them to see corresponding Q & A.

Mr Humble does not sell the MMS itself.

TO PURCHASE MMS, this company has the dark bottles with dropper tops that dispense the drops evenly without allowing extra drops to trail out.

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Low Cost MMS and Low Cost Shipping Rates, Including Worldwide.

Please also see previous posts by peaceandlove starting on page #2, post #33 regarding protocols and safe usage of MMS.

[peaceandlove]

Alyscat, This post may be of help REGARDING PATHOGENS:

PLEASE SEE POST #93 PAGE #4: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781&page=4

[alyscat]

Yes, I'm familiar with pathogens, P&L, thanks. And also familiar with the theory that some do this weird dance being both viruses and bacteria (as in AIDS).

I wonder if the pages are driven by the font size. Page 4 starts with post 121. I found post 93 on page 3.

Thanks again!
alys

[peaceandlove]

I wonder if the pages are driven by the font size. Page 4 starts with post 121. I found post 93 on page 3. Thanks again! alys

Blessings Alys,

I clicked on the link I posted for the page #4 post #93 and it brought me to the right page, so I'm not sure about the reason why you found it on a different page.

ALLS WELL THAT ENDS WELL!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Can mms be purchased in the u.k?

[franciejones]

I am now at 7 drops dosage. I can tell you that I look younger, my skin is younger...no BS folks. My body is rejecting certain harmful foods. I feel like I am getting well, although as far as I know my only real "problem" is an addiction to sugary drinks...which by the way I no longer want. Trust me, this is saying A LOT as I usually go through a 2 liter a day of Pepsi without seeming to be able to help it. I would strongly encourage people who are seeking wellness to give this MMS a try. And if you only save it to purify your water, that is enough in itself. Just wanted to let people here know what the benefits after 1 short week are.

[Swanny]

Can mms be purchased in the u.k?
Yea you can, Flynt posted a link with all the different suppliers some where in this thread.
Cheapest place to get it is in my link for the german site.
The translation on how to order


When at the address page:
- u need to register first:
sex: Männlich = mr or male
Weiblich = mrs or female

Then fill out the form, info with a star is mandatory:
Vorname: first/christian name
Nachname: family name
Strabe/haus-nr: streetname and nr
PLZ: city
Ort: postal code (i presume)
Land: country
E-mail: email adddress

Then create a username and password:

Benutzername: username
Kennwort: password
Kennwortbestätigung: verify password

By the way: shipping costs are different for countries outside germany.
On the first page of ordering, u need to indicate which shipping method u prefer: Versandmethode
(DHL Päckchen, Europa Versand Päckchen;Schweiz Versand is very expensive; Deutsche Post DHL ofcourse is for german orders )

Payment is by Paypal or by Vorkasse (= prepayment) by wiring the money. Bankinfo is on the same page. (it seems that the bank location is in Ibiza? )

Thx to Lightbeing for that :original:

[peaceandlove]

Question - anyone have a theory on the effects of oxidation on internal plaques? Could MMS have an impact on the agent by which heart attack, strokes and alzheimers occur? I assume no, however I would love to hear an educated explanation.

:wub2: Regarding Plaque and Heart Disease from Jim Humble's book:

Arteriosclerosis: I guess there are many causes for hardening and
clogging the arteries of the body, but cholesterol seems to be one of
the best known reasons. Several people have reported to date that
taking the MMS reduced the clogging of the arteries due to
cholesterol. One lady called to say that she was in very bad shape.
They had told her that her veins were 80% clogged. They couldn’t
say how much worse because they couldn’t measure any more than
that. She took large doses of 15 drops, three times a day, for 30
days and when they measured again, the clogging was less than
50%. That is a tremendous change in 30 days. That’s not much to
go on, but it gives you an idea. Remember, we are just talking about
a supplement. Also remember, 975,000 people die each year from
medical drug causes. No one is dead from MMS.

There is a great deal of evidence to indicate that cholesterol deposits
in the arteries veins around the heart are not the cause of heart
attacks. The evidence points out that the walls of these vessels,
about 10 inches on the heart, are collapsed 70 to 80 times every
minute with each beat of the heart for our entire lifes. The walls of
these vessels are strengthened by vitamin C and with a deficiency in
vitamin C they lose their strength. When the vessel walls crack they
remain collapsed and this is when the heart attack happens. The
cholesterol that medical people say is clogging the veins has really
been deposited there to compensate for the deficiency in vitamin C.
It is the body’s secondary defense to prevent collapsed walls of
thearteries and veins. Take 6 to 10 grams of vitamin C daily.
Reduce the amount if you get diarrhea. Dr. Matthias Rath
researched this data. Get his book, Why Animals do not have Heart
Attacks. Check the Internet. The proof has been established as well
as it can be, certainly a hundred times better than the idea that
cholesterol drugs will make you less likely to have a heart attack.

My opinion in this case would be to take a lot of vitamin C for a few
weeks before using the MMS to clean out the cholesterol. Make sure
the walls of the blood vessels are strong before removing the
cholesterol. Read Dr. Matthias Rath’s books.

All known diseases and negative medical conditions: I have not
listed a great number of diseases which can be handled by the
immune system in hours, days, or only a week or two, as there are so
many. The MMS will probably help the immune system do its job no
matter what the disease. Diseases that are not caused by viruses,
bacteria, and other various germs may not be attacked directly by the
MMS, but the benefit may come indirectly. Almost any disease
generates various poisons which in turn cause the body to be sick.
When the immune system has chlorine dioxide which, of course, is
furnished by the MMS it can often neutralize such poisons. Never
assume that MMS will not improve the immune system no matter
how weak of a condition the immune system might be in or no
matter what disease may be present in the body.

Take MMS daily to keep the body clean of most poisons and disease
causing organisms.

To purchase MMS in dark bottles with dropper tops that dispense evenly and don't allow extra drops to trail out see website below. Their MMS is also packaged by a Nutraceutical company and comes in a sealed container.

Shipping available Worldwide

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Please see more previous posts by peaceandlove regarding protocol and safe usage of MMS starting on page #2, post #33.

[Swanny]

I'm up to 10 drops twice a day now with no side effects, hate the smell of it though but with citric acid activator and pineapple juice the taste is ok.:trumpet:
Been a long job getting this far :sweatdrop:

[franciejones]

I am at 9 and 9 now and I feel really bloated...my belly has really swelled up. I feel clearer though and am noticing that I am much more discerning about what I want to eat without really trying. Very good stuff. So happy to have learned of it.

[franciejones]

I did a dose of 10 drops this a.m and got very sick. Sharp belly pains and vomiting. Will go back down on my dose as I feel really awful.

[Swanny]

I did a dose of 10 drops this a.m and got very sick. Sharp belly pains and vomiting. Will go back down on my dose as I feel really awful.
Its taken me months to get to 11 drops that I had this morning.

[franciejones]

That makes sense Swanny as I am only on my 12th day. I am going to slow the increase in drops so that I can adjust. My belly hurts so bad, I have been laid up all day. Feels like my insides are disintergrating....very painful. I will back down the dosage and slowly increase.

[alyscat]

Indeed, Francie. I had the same problem at 10 drops, and am also dropping back. I had stopped for a while, then started again, and jumped too fast.

Jim Humble recommends doing this slowly, and I definitely am going to listen to him now. Something tells me that those who experience no problems in the run up to max drops (like Ampgod - hope you're checking in, guy!) have been so clean in their diets for a while that they don't have underlying issues like I have.

alys

[Swanny]

If you feel bad eat a apple, the pulp soaks up some of the stuff, or take a vit C tablet that stops it.

[alyscat]

Thanks, Swanny. My "feel bad" was about 8 hours later when I woke up - :nono: Of course, it could have been something else - a quick virus or something. Only lasted a day. Appetite finally returned that evening, and I felt a LOT better this morning.
alys

[Swanny]

Glad to hear your feeling better Alys, hope you are too Francie.
My mate reckons he has lost weight since taking MMS anyone else done so??
I'm about 3/4 of a stone (about 10lbs for those of you who don't use the proper measurement of weight) :wink2: heavier than before I started, that mite have something to do with all the chocolate I've been eating over Christmas though :fisch:


14lbs = 1 stone :thumb_yello:


I took 14 drops this morning, should have been 13 but I forgot to stop :blink:

[alyscat]

I notice that my appetite has changed. I'm not as interested in food. It's become more fuel.
alys

[franciejones]

I have lost weight since I have been ill these past few days Swanny...hoping this will cure me of intense sugar cravings...and I mean intense! Before I got sick, i seemed to have gained about 8 pounds (IN A WEEK). I was VERY bloated and consider it a side effect of the MMS. Anywhoooo, I intend to lose a lot of weight and I hope the MMS helps with that...I know its not for weight loss, but if I can kill of the candida which I am sure I am rife with, I am certain the weight issue will be resolved.

[Jonathon]

I'm up to 8 drops so far and doing pretty well. Only side effect so far has been a little heart burn. Going for 9 tonight.

I have noticed a pretty substantial increase in energy within the 1st 3 hours after taking, which seems to taper off until the next dose.

Also had some pretty serious chest congestion in combination with a bad cold when I first started taking on Friday. It's mostly gone now - just an occasional cough. Normally these types of colds stretch out a good while - especially when I have heavy lung congestion. I think there's no doubt it helped so far.

[Flashback]

It has taken about 3 days to read this entire post and it is amazing. A big thanks to all that has contributed to this thread - you are discussing what could be the most important find before 2012.

This has even made me subscribe.

Anyway I have bought a bottle from one of the official distribtors - cant wait for it to arrive. (http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing)

I think im healthy im a only 32 but i do smoke. I dont want to overdo the amount I take, its going to be slow and easy. But I want to rid toxins and any lurgy i have in me. Like Franciejones...i can drink a 2 litre Pepsi every day...no boze just pepsi/coke. Im hoping I can replace this with more healthy drinks....they are very addictive.

anyway, I also have a fungi infection on my toe - nasty looking site. Like Ampgods excellent updates (applause to you and others) I will be seeing if this works for me. Nothing has ever got rid of this ugly fungi on my toe...i have tried for 15 years....

I presume as well as ingesting you can bathe on areas of the body?

[Jonathon]

Welcome Flashback - good to have you here.

Just a quick update on my MMS progress: I'm up to 12 drops as of tonight. To be totally honest, I really haven't had any nausea or loose bowels. Just a bit of buring sensation in the belly for an hour or less (much like after taking a shot of whiskey).

Right now I do the MMS in the morning after a banana and piece of bread, take my vitamins with lunch about 4-5 hours later, then do my night dose 2-3 hours after supper.

I'm generally pretty healthy. I try to eat only natural foods with meat less and less often. I avoid preservatives and anything else I can't pronounce on labels. I take raw vitamins (Vitamin Code by Garden of Life - good stuff) with probiotics, 5K Iu D3, 12.5MG Iodine daily. I stay away from unnatural beverages and anything close to tap water. Mostly I drink coffee made from pure water, water, organic juices (no additives or preservatives.. you'd be amazed how hard these are to find in small areas). Never soft drinks, energy drinks or anything with added acids, preservatives, high fructose corn syrup etc.

My only vice... smoking!~ I have been in the process of quitting for over a month now... going back and forth on the patches (which actually work pretty good). Well, since I started the MMS, quitting has been easier. I went patch-less yesterday and today. Had 5 smokes yesterday and a big fat ZERO today I'm happy to report. All I can say is, since last night, I just didn't need one (I still do sorta want one though... just not the heavy craving). I still feel great by the way... especially the 1-4 hours after taking it.

It's possible the smooth glide to 12 drops (in 4-5 days) is due to a low level of toxins in my body... not really sure. It definitely isn't my weight... I'm 160 and nearing my body weight limit for MMS. I'll probably jump to 14 tomorrow, as the 12 drops (taken over an hour ago) don't seem to be doing that much.

[Humble Janitor]

Probably a stupid question, but would MMS help with asthma or breathing issues? I have had asthma for almost 3 years and it only began to intensify when I started my new job (likely due to the air quality) back in April of last year.

I definitely can afford MMS at this point and I am considering it. I am not a healthy person by a long shot and I don't expect it to magically fix my health issues. However, I assume that it can be used in conjuction with a diet that's more rich in fruits, vegetables , whole grains and lean protein to help out my health issues (high blood pressure, cholesterol).

If anyone has any experience with MMS that they would like to share with me, feel free to send me a PM. As I said, I would like to give this a shot. I also have stomach issues most of the time (bloating, indigestation).

[alyscat]

Although asthma is (theoretically) not caused by pathogens, MMS, because of it's oxygenating qualities may be helpful.

http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=31

This is the link to 2 asthma stories on mmsanswers.com.
alys

[Flashback]

Postman arrived today but no MMS - maybe tomorrow.

Its very timely as my wife and i have come down with the flu...

My wife is pregnant (8 months) and even though im willing to try there is not a chance in the world she is having any until after the baby is born.

my questin to everyone is;

Has anyone given MMS to their kids?

I have read a couple of posts where people have given to their pets, my Ridgeback will be the other guinea pig in the family :)

If this solution works for me then I will be spreading this information like wild fire..

Some of you probably experience what im ging through. I regularly come on here to read and also ATS. Im a normal guy with a good job but whenever i open my mouth regarding 'conspiracy theory/ufo/ etc" I get slammed by my friends.....i have woken a few up though.

I hoping to successfully remove my toe fungi and any pathgens along the way. This way I have own evidence.

[polarsib]

Hi! Every one.
Thank you for the information about MMS.
I am up to 12 drop today.
I have been having sore muscle and numb and tingling feeling on different part of the body and brake out on my face too.
Any body had any symptom like that?
I am not sure what that mean.
It would be nice to have more information about the symptoms.

[dayzero]

I ordered some the day before I noticed the interview [nice co-incidence]
....just waiting for it to arrive, in the UK here and ordered from the main MMS site, so Swanny, I wish I'd been payin attention.

Just as an aside - 2 Litres of Pepsi a day! Whoa there! That's gonna be a sugar comedown hitting hard, honey!
You wanna get addicted to Tea like us brits [without sugar though, obviously!]

[Jonathon]

Polarsib - my guess is that you have a toxicity problem - pinned up toxins are being pulled out into the bloodstream. I would decrease the drops by 2 for 2 or 3 days then begin to increase by 1 per day after that.

Flashback - go to http://jimhumble.biz/ for the treatment protocols for Flu. I think the 6 and 6 protocol is the preferred.

There is also info there for pregnant women and children.

[peaceandlove]

I have read a couple of posts where people have given to their pets, my Ridgeback will be the other guinea pig in the family :)

I hoping to successfully remove my toe fungi and any pathgens along the way. This way I have own evidence.

Blessings Flashback,

Yes, I have been using the MMS with my elderly dog. She was having accidents in the house and the MMS quickly relieved her of this. She also has a lot of stuff draining from her eyes, I imagine a detox reaction.


Internet Info:
How can I get Chlorine Dioxide to treat my dog?

There is “something” inside my dog, I had her treated for tape worm. Do you think I could use it on her and get rid of the beast in her once and for all? Also, I’m a bit confused…would I treat her with drops of SODIUM CHLORITE or mix per instructions to get CHLORINE DIOXIDE and treat her with that? Please advise and thanks for any info you can give me.

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Dear Marge, my book contains valuable information that could help you. Chlorine dioxide is generated from sodium chlorite with the addition of a food acid. Follow the same procedure as the standard protocol as described in my web site and remember that for animals, the dose is 3 drops for each 25 pounds of body weight. That’s 1 drop for each 8 pounds of body weight. But don’t start out with that much. Follow the procedure.

Please note that Jim Humble says that toenail fungus is one of the last things to clear up with the MMS. You can also make a mixture of 20 drops of MMS to 100 drops of citric acid, add to 2 ounces of water and use as a spray on the toenails. (1/4 teaspoon a bit domed is 20 drops) I put the protocol on this thread somewhere, let me try to find it and I will post the link in a minute. OK it's post #142, page #6 or this link and scroll down to post #142: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781&page=6


FREE DOWNLOAD of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book at website below. Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and the 9th post is the FREE DOWNLOAD.
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

[Flashback]

thanks for the support.

It takes the toe nail a long time because it has to also grow out, which is probably a 6 month process.

Am I ok taking MMS with Lugols Iodine? I have read Iodine supplements are very important.

[Humble Janitor]

Although asthma is (theoretically) not caused by pathogens, MMS, because of it's oxygenating qualities may be helpful.

http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=31

This is the link to 2 asthma stories on mmsanswers.com.
alys

It's certainly worth a shot! I think I will order some MMS very soon. I see that there's the bottle of MMS and the activator kit. Do I need both? How again does it work? Sorry to ask questions that might be redundant but I am feeling it difficult to focus on things right now (happens once in a while).

[RedeZra]

It's certainly worth a shot! I think I will order some MMS very soon. I see that there's the bottle of MMS and the activator kit. Do I need both? How again does it work? Sorry to ask questions that might be redundant but I am feeling it difficult to focus on things right now (happens once in a while).

soo much info about this subject and you ask the basics heheh
lol ok let me get a teaspoon out of my kitchen drawer : )

after 2 weeks i got mine from here http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

MMS + activator ( i also bought the book )
about the activator it comes as powder and you have to supply preferbly clean filtered water to it and make a 10% solution (1 part powder to 9 parts water)

take 2 times a day 12 hours interval on light stomach
try to increase next dose so as in the evening day 1 you mix 2 drops MMS with 10 drops activator and in the morning day2 3 drops of MMS with 15 drops of activator
always 5 drops of activator to every 1 drop of MMS

1 drop MMS + 5 drops activator in a glass wait 3 min and fill glass with water or mix in some eg. apple or craneberry juice for the taste ( no vitamin c close to taking MMS as it will lessen the effect )

if feeling nausea reduce with 1 drop MMS and slowly increase again til you reach 15 drops of MMS + 75 drops of activator 2 times a day for 1 week

then maintenance dose 4-6 drops MMS twice a week

[Swanny]

about the activator it comes as powder and you have to supply preferbly clean filtered water to it and make a 10% solution (1 part powder to 9 parts water)


When you need more just go to the chemist or a supermarket and buy citric acid, it's really cheap. I paid 50p for a little box that makes up loads of mixture.

[Humble Janitor]

soo much info about this subject and you ask the basics heheh
lol ok let me get a teaspoon out of my kitchen drawer : )

after 2 weeks i got mine from here http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

MMS + activator ( i also bought the book )
about the activator it comes as powder and you have to supply preferbly clean filtered water to it and make a 10% solution (1 part powder to 9 parts water)

take 2 times a day 12 hours interval on light stomach
try to increase next dose so as in the evening day 1 you mix 2 drops MMS with 10 drops activator and in the morning day2 3 drops of MMS with 15 drops of activator
always 5 drops of activator to every 1 drop of MMS

1 drop MMS + 5 drops activator in a glass wait 3 min and fill glass with water or mix in some eg. apple or craneberry juice for the taste ( no vitamin c close to taking MMS as it will lessen the effect )

if feeling nausea reduce with 1 drop MMS and slowly increase again til you reach 15 drops of MMS + 75 drops of activator 2 times a day for 1 week

then maintenance dose 4-6 drops MMS twice a week

Still sounds pretty complicated to me. I probably should buy the book as well.

[BROOK]

Got my MMS , and started taking it yesterday.
Started with 2 drops last night..didn't feel a thing
This morning, I did 4 drops, and my tummy had a warm fuzzy feeling,:original:
Tonight did another 4 drops.

I'm taking it for a bad virus I've had since thanksgiving, and just could not shake it, and it really took me down around Christmas..
Also taking for chronic migraine headaches...mms is supposed to relieve inflammation, so I'm praying this will work on the blood vessels to relieve the condition.
I have taken everything to relieve the pain, and there is nothing out there that works for me. I've had many different doctors working on this.
I get at least three a week, sometimes running together, can't tell when one ends, and another begins. wish me luck guys:thumb_yello:

[Flashback]

Good Luck Brook - kinda rhymes.

[jachmad]

Very interesting thread...

[BROOK]

thanks Flashback:thumb_yello:

I've gone to 5 drops tonight, and today I noticed the cold/flu symptoms have gone, and I can breathe much easier.
also noticed directly after taking it, about an hour later, the area of my migraine is reacting strangely, sort of a spiking feeling, but not a headache. Just a short shooting pain but lasting only for an instant.

If this works for my migraines I will be so happy :biggrin2:

:woot_jump::woot_jump:

[franciejones]

Had to go back to 5 drops for the past few days. It is making me quite naseous. I have had a terrible cold as well which includes a bad cough. Much less stomach pain now though thank goodness for that. As soon as I drink the MMS I am fighting back dry heaves. Most unpleasant. Hopefully this is detoxing me.

[Swanny]

I use citric acid and pineapple juice, even on 14 drops you cant taste it :)
Hate the smell of it when its brewing though :shocked:

[Flashback]

it arrived today.

Just had my first glass - 16.51 GMT 10 January,

I couldnt wait to make the citric acid solution so i used.

1 drop MMS
5 Drops of freshly squeezed lemon
(there was barely anything in the glass)

waited 3 mins

added pineapple juice and drank.

its now 2 mins and my head feels a little 'fuzzy' - maybe im imagining it.

do you have to make the citric acid solution from distilled water or can it be tap water?

[Swanny]

do you have to make the citric acid solution from distilled water or can it be tap water?

I use filtered water to make mine :original:

[Flashback]

can u buy filtered water?

[Connecting with Sauce]

I use distilled water and managed to get up to 11 drops but we were away from home and we had no fruit juice to mask the taste... here is a picture taken of me just after taking a swig of MMS with no juice added... yes it was a struggle!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/IMGP3775.jpg

I've given it a few days rest since then and need to get back on it...

[mpea]

can u buy filtered water?

Hi Flashback,

I'm not so sure that you can buy filtered water, however, you can by a water filter jug. They cost about £12.00 in the UK, you need to replace the cartridges every month or so. You just need to fill them with tap water.

How's the MMS going?

Peace n blessings
mpea

[Flashback]

cheers mate..i will have a look and se what i can buy.

I have been using (literally) fresh lemon juice. Cutting it in half and squezzing the drops directly onto the MMS. Not sure if this is working as most of you comment on the nasty smell it gives off. I havent smelt a thing.

I have increased to 3 drops this morning.

[peaceandlove]

Is there anything I could do to overcome revulsion towards the taste and smell of MMS?

Online MMS Answer:

QUESTION: I’ve been taking MMS now for about 6 months, at least 5 X week. I worked up to a therapeutic dose of just 13 drops when I had vomiting/diarrhea, so I stayed there for 10 days, and had been on a maintenance dose of 6-8 drops per day. 4 weeks ago I came down with a severe congestion in my chest; no cold or sore throat, did have body aches and fever the first two days. I’ve been taking MMS 2-4 X day, up to 40 drops total per day, and I still have the congestion with coughing up thick yellow-green phlegm; no fever/body aches. I thought I was over it twice and discontinued the MMS for 2 days each time, but the congestion returned.

I just read your site and realize perhaps I should take smaller doses more often throughout the day and don’t skip any days. But, I can hardly stand taking the MMS anymore…the smell alone makes my whole body spasm in revulsion which seems like my body is saying “NO MORE!”. Please advice?

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JIM HUMBLE ANSWERS: Many people seem to get the revulsion of MMS. The best answer I have found so far is to buy some frozen concentrated dark grape juice. Then do not add the full amount of water. Add about 1/4 less water. That makes a strong grape juice. That will usually hide the entire taste of the MMS. Try it. If you still have a little problem, add two teaspoons of citric acid solution to the grape juice just before you drink it.

I have also found that as the body gets cleaned out of microorganisms that it becomes more and more tolerant of the MMS chlorine dioxide. I think that some of the more intelligent organisms can create the revulsion. It’s not the body, but the guys that are fighting to stay causing their havoc. Yes, the smaller doses but more often seems to get the best results. I once had the revulsion but I kept at it and now with the grape juice even without the stronger grape juice I taste nothing and I can tolerate very high doses without revulsion. Same with many other people.

FREE DOWNLOAD of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book at:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and the 9th post under that is the FREE DOWNLOAD

This company uses a Nutraceutical company to package their MMS and the dropper tops on the dark bottles does not allow extra drops to trail out unlike the flip top dropper tops which many MMS sellers use and they get crystallization on them in the refrigerator and there's drops coming when you don't want them.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Hi I stopped mms on Thursday and was at 10 drops then...

Can I just start again at 10 drops x 2 times a day? After 3-4 days break?

[mntruthseeker]

Hi everyone............I'm back on the sauce.

My breathing got so bad and my back went out and I said enough.......so I went back on this horrible ****

I read the part where someone mentioned using oatmeal before taking. Hey, does that work spiffy! I take mine with just the mms,citric acid and distilled water. No juice added.............I just take a deep breath and down it.

My smeller is plugged up so thats probally going to change

My nose is already back to where I can blow it (unplugged) and my beather improved within one hour after using just two drops.

Can I say that Peace and Love you are so right ! I can't let getting a little "too sick in the bathroom" stop myself from healing. I'm back in for the long haul this time.

I better buy some juice to help me as I know that I'm moving forward this time. Before I was off my oxygen at least 4 hours a day and only went back on it as I got tired out. Thats when I knew I needed it as I yawned all the time. No headache as was the case before. I hope I'm going to make it this time as I pray I will not give up. I need to feel better. being sick is no fun.

My back is improving somewhat. Not where I want it to be at this time but I did get a full nights sleep! in fact slept 10 hours

I'm starting right at the beginning as I know this will be tough and I'm not rushing it LOL


One thing I want to mention to all of you that are having indigestion.......mix a package of Knox gellatin with 1/2 cup hot water 1/2 cup of cold water and down the baby.......................it taste horrible but it will leave a beautiful coating and patch up your belly and then some in a very nice way. Perfect to plug up any ulcerated mess................it helps and I quit taking my nexium. What a price we pay to get healthy (my tummy was severely damaged from all the wonder drugs on the market now a days)

[BROOK]

Peace and Love,

I've been taking it for a week now. I started with two drops the first day, then moved to 4drops the second day. 5 the next and up to 6 now.

I have not noticed anything in the way of stomach ache or anything else.

So I will increase the dose today one more drop. My question is, does the fact that I'm not experiencing any symptoms mean that I not receiving any benefit from the dose I 'm taking now? Is it to weak for my system? and is that a good thing? does that mean that my system is good enough to handle the dose.
I'm a little confused by my reaction. I had a virus, which has seemed to correct itself, but the primary purpose of taking the MMS, for me was to detox, and hopefully reduce my migraine headaches.
Thanks for all your input Peace and Love.
Brook

[Swanny]

Brook the dodgy bit seems to hit most people at the 8 or 9 drops stage, so don't think your getting away with out a few trips to the loo and a exploding ring :naughty:


mntruthseeker I'm glad your taking it again :thumb_yello:

[Swanny]

Stuart Wilde - March 2004

I’ve said in the past don’t drink the Government water. It’s recycled sewage. The problem is they can’t get the heavy metals out nor many medications that wind up in the water. Fluoride is known to cause severe brain damage; it is stored in the pineal. There is no way to get it out.
I wonder if MMS gets to it???? :mf_rosetinted:

[peaceandlove]

Hi I stopped mms on Thursday and was at 10 drops then...

Can I just start again at 10 drops x 2 times a day? After 3-4 days break?

Peace Sauce, (Yum, that's sounds good, doesn't it?)

When I stop and start, which I've been doing since August, I always back down about two drops.

I started the MMS figuring I was going to wing right through it. Well, I found out that throwing up was not much fun and finally realized that this was going to be a process for me. Sometimes I got so tired that I had to go off to get work done. So I'm buzzing right now as I just started up again for about the 5th time and I can feel that MMS in my whole body. The holidays found me eating things I normally don't eat and I'm paying for it now.

So, yes I would drop back down by a couple drops and that's what Jim Humble recommends I've read.

Love Noodles (to go with the sauce, LOL)

By the way, I do not take any food before or after, if I were nauseous at any level, even 2 drops I would back down instead of add food to the equation. (But, that's me.)

[peaceandlove]

Hi everyone............I'm back on the sauce.

I'm starting right at the beginning as I know this will be tough and I'm not rushing it LOL


YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!

I just started up again too.

PEACE OUT

[Flashback]

just taken some more and i have a headache - actually i have had a few sharp pains in my head all day and i only started takig this stuff yesterday. is this normal?

i did wake up this monring wide awake...it was pretty weird becasue im usually terrible to get out of bed on sunday.

[peaceandlove]

Peace and Love,

My question is, does the fact that I'm not experiencing any symptoms mean that I not receiving any benefit from the dose I 'm taking now? Is it to weak for my system? and is that a good thing? does that mean that my system is good enough to handle the dose.
I'm a little confused by my reaction. I had a virus, which has seemed to correct itself, but the primary purpose of taking the MMS, for me was to detox, and hopefully reduce my migraine headaches.
Thanks for all your input Peace and Love.
Brook


Blessings Brook,

The virus corrected, that's a big positive. If you don't want to get too sick, go slow, don't worry the MMS is working. You'll find out soon like Swanny said.

[peaceandlove]

I just took too large of a dose due to the other bottle I had with the bad flip top and I was feeling the queasiness coming on so I started to make my way to the bathroom in case it came up, I decided to try the EFT technique and the nausea went away. YEAH!!!!!!!!!

[BROOK]

Thanks P&L

I do feel different when I take it..just not the sick feeling everyone talks about.

That's quite interesting about the EFT technique...where would I get info on that?
Thanks again
Peace
Brook

[peaceandlove]

just taken some more and i have a headache - actually i have had a few sharp pains in my head all day and i only started taking this stuff yesterday. is this normal?

i did wake up this morning wide awake...it was pretty weird becasue i'm usually terrible to get out of bed on sunday.

High Five Flashback,

I noticed that too, that it was easier to get up in the morning.

Did you check out the post about healing crises and detoxing? It's on Page #14, Post #327 "HERINGS LAW OF CURE" http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781&highlight=Healing+Crisis&page=14

This can help you understand the detoxing process. Unless you are having a reaction to the citric acid, which is very seldom, you're body is releasing toxins. They hurt going in and coming out.

Many people are alarmed by discomfort when detoxing and sometimes choose to quit because of it, thinking the product is making them sick, but actually what they have eaten and chemicals they have exposed themselves to is the cause of the discomfort. It's like paying twice. Like the cost of alcohol is not just the alcohol but the reactions to it and the loss of work and the damage to the body that has to be paid for at some time, either in liver failure or future health problems. I don't mean to single out alcohol (because I used to drink), but sugar, white flour products, junk food, pesticides in food, fluoride in water, mercury in fish, working in a toxic environment, inhaling fumes while pumping gas, etc. etc.

Also, it's so important while on the MMS to take extra minerals like calcium and magnesium and even iodine is what I'm reading online. AND DRINKING LOTS OF WATER TO HELP FLUSH OUT THE TOXINS AS THEY ARE NEUTRALIZED AND THE METALS AS THEY ARE OXIDIZED.

Good luck to you.

[BROOK]

As I said before, I'm doing this to get rid of migraines..up to 6 drops today, and starting to feel a little sick in the stomach. but worse I'm getting a migraine.
I wonder if the mms is clearing it or it is just the same old thing I get all the time..chronic:wall:
I'm going to wait for a little while to see if it goes away. but I fear I'm going to have to take my migraine meds :wall:

[iainl140285]

Hey guys,
Enjoying the updates and effects of each individual poerson here.
I personally dont mind the taste - better than just water IMO - and the smell was weird at first but its not too bad.

I see a few people here up to 10 - 15 drops twice a day.
How many drops are recommended per day, just for daily use?


Peace
Respect
Iain

[Steve_G]

Newbie checking in :original:

Took my first dose of 1:5 drops MMS to Activator diluted in a small glass of 100% pineapple juice. Got a sharp pain in my side almost immediately (which is probably psychological) and I'm belching frequently. As I'm going for a detox I guess this is to be expected- better out than in eh?

I'll take another one after my evening meal, then its up to 2 drops tomorrow.

Further updates as events warrant. :thumb_yello: