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Swanny
07-07-2009, 09:46 PM
And a great place to buy the stuff
http://www.mmseurope.info/
:thumb_yello:
angelad
07-09-2009, 12:51 AM
From Jim Humble's Book Part 2:
Please also see post #731 this page regarding pathogens.
JIM HUMBLE APPROVED WEBSITE:
FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.
5 and 10 Pack Specials Availahttps://bodybuilderspro.info/customimages/62/1240197088/random.gifble Also.
Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide.
Downloaded the book, thanks
peaceandlove
07-19-2009, 02:08 AM
To keep this information under one thread I added recent updated directions for taking MMS posted by Green Beret here:
Also see post #731 on previous page regarding pathogens.
And post #747 on previous page regarding bathing with MMS, which you may want to do in combination with taking it internally or for ingesting through the skin if you have a weak stomach.
Suggested Procedure for Using MMS as a Flu Deterrent or Remedy:
1. In a cup or glass mix 1 drop of MMS with 5 drops of unfiltered vinegar or fresh lemon juice. Swirl and wait three minutes for activation to be completed.
Citric acid is also available for activation and is usually the acid of choice: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing
2. .Add ½ glass of water or juice that does not have added ascorbic acid or vitamin C (Vitamin C prevents proper functions of this solution). Drink this whole amount as quickly as possible.
3. If you felt absolutely no change during this first hour, go ahead and go to 2 drops on the second hour. (Always use 5 drops of vinegar or lemon juice for each drop of MMS, and of course, the three minute wait) Go to 3 drops on the third hour if you have not felt any change in nausea) The nausea is not bad. It indicates that the MMS is killing pathogens. But do not cause yourself nausea by taking more. Over time increase to a maximum of 6 drops MMS with 30 drops of the acid. If you weigh over 200 pounds then 10 drops might be the maximum.
Keep in mind that most people will not go over 3 or 4 drops an hour before they begin to feel added nausea. Upon any sensation of nausea, they must reduce the number of drops by at least one drop. Nausea occurs when MMS is killing germs and viruses faster than your elimination system can handle the debris. There is no benefit in tolerating nausea.
4. Continue taking MMS each hour for 12 hours. The flu should be gone by the end of 12 hours; however, in any case, do not stop taking MMS until you are sure you have recovered. If you still feel flu symptoms the next day be sure to continue on the same hourly doses. Children can have the same treatment except be extra cautious to prevent nausea or sick feeling. Do this by using smaller doses. Increase by 1/2 drop each time and never go above 3 drops an hour.
5. Continue to take a six drop dose twice a day for the next week or two.
6. To prevent the flu and maintain you immune system in top condition take one 6 drop dose of MMS every day for adults and children should take a dose each day depending upon their age or size. Use 1 drop for each 25 pounds of body weight, and 1 drop for babies.
Educational information about MMS has been collected at this site where there are no marketing or purchase options. Click here: http://MMS-education.com
MMS can be purchased from various labs and MMS resellers, visible on the Internet search engines.
It remains to be seen if one or another flu strain will develop into a serious epidemic. A number of people die each year from influenza and other typical flu viruses but those events are rarely classified as an “epidemic” or health emergency. By the end of May 2009, the Center for Disease Control will have official statements about the severity of the virus.
Some researchers argue that there are risks associated with stockpiled flu vaccines. Most vaccines are preserved not only with mercury but also with aluminum – heavy metals that scientists claim are harmful to nerves, glands, and brains – long-term.
Vaccine critics argue that it is contradictory to state that Swine Flu is new, quite unlike any flu virus seen before, while at the same time promoting millions of stockpiled vaccine vials that were manufactured months or years prior to any given outbreak. If a new strand of virus is "new and different” then older vaccines will probably be useless. Numerous Internet articles expose the debate about vaccine effectiveness as is shown when searching for terms such as “vaccine risks.”
Recent laws passed by Congress make the government immune from law suits if a government vaccine appears to cause harm or damage to one’s health. This immunity applies even if you are forced to receive a shot by military or federal officials.
MMS is in daily use by at least 230,000 individuals since its public release in 2006. No one has died from its use – even when they mixed it backwards – or overdosed by mistake. If you read the articles at the MMS-Education site [ Here ] you will learn how MMS distinguishes accurately between normal living body cells and unwanted pathogens.
MMS is attracted to germs and viruses because it seeks to rip electrons out of the walls of pathogens, causing them to implode and die. Swine Flu viruses have electrons to give up and MMS will never know that this virus was a slightly different viral strain.
For further information, read the “Basic Fundamentals” and other protocols that are at http://JimHumble.biz.
See also the humanitarian project defined at http://JimHumbleFoundation.org
JIM HUMBLE APPROVED WEBSITE:
FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.
5 and 10 Pack MMS Specials Also Available
Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide.
This Jim Humble approved company uses the nice dropper tops that don't crystallize or let out extra drops. Packaged by a FDA regulated Nutraceutical Company in sealed containers.
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Machinamentum
07-19-2009, 10:39 PM
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13769
I decided to start a new thread on this because of the enormous size of the MMS thread.
I don't know if this has been done before but I just tried this out and it works great. I was getting to the point with the MMS that I just could not drink it anymore. The DMSO works great but I don't think it's quite as effective in some areas when compared to ingesting MMS, so I came up with this procedure and it works great!
Acquire "Empty Vegetarian Capsules" Size 00, you can get these at most health food stores.
Acquire small eye dropper, one that holds at least 10 to 15 drops.
1. Mix your MMS together and wait 3 minutes.
2. Suck up the mixed MMS into the eyedropper about 10 to 15 drops worth.
3. Open the vegetarian capsule and use the eyedropper to drop the MMS into the capsule. (capsules hold about 10 to 15 drops of liquid.
4. Close the capsule and swallow, the vegetarian capsules will break down in about 3-5 minutes so eat within that time. There is no taste and less illness.
Now it's easy to take the upkeep doses everyday and no taste!!!!
I would like to see if anyone else will try this and leave some feedback. This seems to be a great way to take MMS but that is only my findings.
Machinamentum
07-19-2009, 10:40 PM
^^^
Still working great for me and my friends!
Humble Janitor
07-20-2009, 01:46 AM
Finally bit the bullet and placed an order.
Easier to make critical decisions without brain fog and fear getting in the way. Can't wait to see how MMS will work for me.
Humble Janitor
07-20-2009, 01:48 AM
^^^
Still working great for me and my friends!
Hmm. Have you submitted your findings to Jim Humble? It might be a good idea because others might want to give it a try to make it easier to take MMS.
I'm a bit worried about the nausea but I'll have to follow the directions dligently to avoid it.
Machinamentum
07-20-2009, 04:43 AM
I have sent several emails to Humble but no reply. I did send notice to the company that I get my MMS through, and they did say that they have heard about the capsule procedure before, but did not have a procedure yet.
Needless to say, I've been doing this for many months now and still very effective...
Not tasting the MMS has helped me with the nausea, but still, if you take too much you will still get sick. It takes only a few minutes after eating the capsules to feel the effects!
Humble Janitor
07-20-2009, 06:00 AM
That's cool.
I still need to find the best possible directions because that part is a bit confusing, especially when it pertains to dosage. I did see something about eating cold apples to reduce nausea. I personally know when nausea is coming due to dry heaves. If it gets to that point, then I'd reduce dosage, etc.
Humble's site claims that MMS won't interfere with thryoid medication. I'll see for myself.
Humble Janitor
07-24-2009, 12:58 AM
I recieved my bottle of MMS in the mail today and it came with instructions so I will have to get a dropper of sorts and some vinegar or lime juice and try it out soon.
Swanny
07-24-2009, 07:26 AM
You can buy powdered citric acid at the chemist :original:
Humble Janitor
07-24-2009, 08:10 AM
You can buy powdered citric acid at the chemist :original:
Well, we don't call them chemists around here but good tip regardless. Does the powder have to be reconstituted though?
Swanny
07-24-2009, 07:08 PM
What do you call them then?? :shocked:
burgundia
07-24-2009, 07:17 PM
What do you call them then?? :shocked:
You buy that stuff at drugstores or pharmacies....:lol3:
alyscat
07-24-2009, 11:08 PM
needs to be reconstituted, Swanny, 9 parts distilled water to 1 part citric acid ( depending on bottle size, you can use 1 tablesppon citric acid to 9 tablespoons distilled water. Vary based on country measurement, but still 9 pts to 1 part
edited to change the formula, just found my mistake, sheesh
Vidya Moksha
07-27-2009, 09:31 PM
I have sent several emails to Humble but no reply. I did send notice to the company that I get my MMS through, and they did say that they have heard about the capsule procedure before, but did not have a procedure yet.
I am just reading Jim Humble's book. He makes it clear that ONLY emails with the subject "Stories of Success" will get through his spam filter, Once done an automatic response will be generated with details of how to contact Jim Humble directly.
I have been using MMS for a while now. Recently I used it on a localised but long standing skin disorder, it showed immediate improvements and cleared up almost completely after 2 doses of 5 drops applied directly to my skin!
Flashback
08-04-2009, 06:14 PM
Hey Guys, hope all is well?
not been on for a while to be honest - however I have updated my thread on ATS with new pics - pls have a look at what MMS has achieved for me.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread446164/pg1
Machinamentum
08-04-2009, 07:45 PM
I am just reading Jim Humble's book. He makes it clear that ONLY emails with the subject "Stories of Success" will get through his spam filter, Once done an automatic response will be generated with details of how to contact Jim Humble directly.
I have been using MMS for a while now. Recently I used it on a localised but long standing skin disorder, it showed immediate improvements and cleared up almost completely after 2 doses of 5 drops applied directly to my skin!
Thanks Vidya, I forgot all about the title, new email will get sent out now.
I'm glad to hear your success. I love the stuff, I feel positive effects every time I use MMS.
TheChosen
08-04-2009, 10:14 PM
After 7 dosages of the MMS I developed a very strong reaction towards it. Now just thinking about it makes me want to puke... don't know why... (it is about the activated one)... yuck
Machinamentum
08-05-2009, 01:42 AM
After 7 dosages of the MMS I developed a very strong reaction towards it. Now just thinking about it makes me want to puke... don't know why... (it is about the activated one)... yuck
If I go up to 6-8 doses, I get sick almost every time. I've been doing MMS ever since it was first posted on Camelot. I still get sick. I've spent more time puking of that stuff than alcohol. ;) Also you will only be able to stomach so much of the MMS for so long, then your body will reject even the slightest amount if you taste it. I take 4 drops of MMS 1-3 times a day in capsules, and that is all I need. I don't get sick unless there is no food in my stomach and I do some psychical activities like walking around a store. I've been caught out away from home after taking 2-3 drops of MMS on an empty stomach and just barely making it to the toilet. Best thing I've found to do is eat something 10 to 20 minutes later. I've been stuck on 4 - 6 drops for a long time now, but I have wonderful health and feel great off 4 to 6 drops with an increase in energy. So there is no need for me to exceed that for now. I've bathed myself in 15 to 20 drops of MMS with DMSO for weeks and I still get sick of 6 - 8 drops (oral), but that all depends on what is in your stomach.
peaceandlove
08-05-2009, 03:47 AM
CORRECTED...I got some of my information wrong on her initial condition!! My Apologies.
Thanks Machinamentum,
That would be my suggestion too, besides trying some EFT for the queasy feeling...it worked for me.
EFT Emotional Freedom Technique http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9970
When I got to the 7 drop level I would use 50/50 water and apple juice (with no added C or ascorbic acid) and it would cover the taste of the MMS. Some people mix it outside so they don't smell it during the 3 minute wait time and then add the juice and water and drink over an hour or so, just sipping, this appears to be the newest revelation...not to chug it down to sip over a longer period of time. I always take mine on an empty stomach.
UPDATE
There is another way to take the MMS that a good friend of mine has been experimenting with.
She started with 3 cysts on her right ovary, 1 cyst on her left ovary and a large fibroid (16.8 X 10.5) in her uterus.
Her cysts on her ovaries have pretty much disappeared and the large fibroid has reduced tremendously in size. I was going to wait until she re-visited her doctor to verify her results. The doctors wanted to remove them. She will probably be seeing her doctor in the next few weeks and I will update then.
This is the protocol that is on the internet about getting rid of cancer with MMS and DMSO.
(The only warning about using DMSO on humans that I have seen is about potential liver damage although that may be with over use.)
You add (5) 1/2 teaspoons of citric acid with 1/2 teaspoon of MMS swirl glass and wait three minutes and then add (5) 1/2 teaspoons of DMSO (reduce the amount of DMSO if skin irritation occurs).
Put the mixture into a fine mister and spray on skin. This is after you have taken a bath and cleaned the skin well as the DMSO will carry anything on the skin into the body. She says she lays down on a clean sheet or towel while the mixture is drying on her skin. She has been doing it daily and the cysts have almost completely disappeared. This is the only remedy she has been using and is not in conjunction with anything else. You spray it all over your body including the back (lean forward and spray over back to reach the whole back if you do not have anyone else to apply it). She then would re-spray the ovary and uterus areas and rub in. Wash hands well after that.
In the morning you wash it off.
After about 7 days the cysts and fibroid have greatly abated.
KEEP IN MIND WHEN USING THE DMSO THERE IS AN ODOR ASSOCIATED WITH IT SORT OF LIKE A GARLIC SMELL.
ALSO, YOU MAY EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT OF TINGLING WHILE THE PRODUCT IS DRYING. OPEN WOUNDS WILL STING A LITTLE.
AND as always.......
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http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing
FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.
5 and 10 Pack MMS Specials Also Available
Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.
This company uses the nice dropper tops that don't crystallize or let out extra drops. Packaged by a FDA regulated Nutraceutical Company in sealed containers.
waitinginthewings
08-05-2009, 08:09 PM
I just found out that DMSO has not been available in Canada for a few years. Apparently a Do Not Sell order in place. Someone suggested my vet.:nono:
Anyone know a supplier of this in the US that I can buy from?
Vidya Moksha
08-05-2009, 09:35 PM
After 7 dosages of the MMS I developed a very strong reaction towards it. Now just thinking about it makes me want to puke... don't know why... (it is about the activated one)... yuck
I think most of us do. My solution is to pinch my nose as i drink it, it's the fumes that get me. I can manage if I hold my nose and then drink water immediately afterwards. I can manage 15 drops this way (and I only add water, not juice to the activated solution), but I even react to the smell when it is activating.
sassydr8n
08-07-2009, 09:57 AM
Starting on MMS this weekend. Been using colloidal silver untill now, which has kept us well so no complaints. Unfortunately, Swine Flu has started hitting where we are and I have no intention of getting sick - just out of principle I refuse to medicate with conventional medicine. Stuff (can think of a better word:original:) those that infect and then still have the odacity to leech money off us to cure ourselves...I think NOT :thumbdown:!
So, here we go...
sassydr8n
08-11-2009, 06:28 AM
Started with one drop on Saturday morning, now up to 7 already. We activate it with citric acid then add good solid as pure as possible apple juice (it overpowers the mms solution). Only had slight chemically aftertaste till now-actually made me think of unfiltered water straight out the tap :nono:. Could taste solution for first time last night - actually reminds me a bit of the smell of bleach... Also, no nausea or even slight upset yet. Only thing - it is not that easy to avoid Vitamin C! Check the labels of any processed/packaged foods - you'll be surprised, and don't forget tomatoes! Will see how it goes.
sassydr8n
08-25-2009, 12:38 PM
Met the inside of my stomach for the first time yesterday morning :nono: - on the 3rd day of having the 3x15drop dose. No unpleasantness since - in the homestretch now. So far so good. I can live with the slight discomfort that goes with getting used to the stuff, even to the taste - I recon the benefits FAR outweigh the alternative.
Bring on the MMS thank you!
alyscat
08-25-2009, 03:04 PM
I actually bought swimmers nose clips. My sinuses are really sensitive.
Jim H is now recommending in the most recent newsletter (#6) that you do a couple of drops every 2 hours or so. A lot of people can do 2 drops at a time.
alys
I think most of us do. My solution is to pinch my nose as i drink it, it's the fumes that get me. I can manage if I hold my nose and then drink water immediately afterwards. I can manage 15 drops this way (and I only add water, not juice to the activated solution), but I even react to the smell when it is activating.
alyscat
08-25-2009, 03:06 PM
Almost any health food store would have it. If you're close to the border, I'd cross and get it - if there's a DNS on it, it's possible a US supplier might not be able to ship to CN.
I just found out that DMSO has not been available in Canada for a few years. Apparently a Do Not Sell order in place. Someone suggested my vet.:nono:
Anyone know a supplier of this in the US that I can buy from?
Vidya Moksha
08-25-2009, 04:19 PM
I would recommend a full detox programme of 15 drops three times daily for 2 weeks (or if you have the time fewer drops every 2 hours) - many fungal (and other ) infections go deep and need to be cleansed.
alyscat
08-27-2009, 10:52 AM
Hey, Machineamentum
Your MMS in a cap!!!!!
http://mmsnews.org/NEWS004.htm
The protocol made the MMS newsletter!
alys
peaceandlove
08-28-2009, 06:16 PM
Almost any health food store would have it. If you're close to the border, I'd cross and get it - if there's a DNS on it, it's possible a US supplier might not be able to ship to CN.
Blessings alyscat,
Waitinginthewings found DMSO at the Farm and Feed Store near where she lives in Canada.
Usually the cost of DMSO is a lot less in a feed store than in a health food store for those in the US.
PaL
Unified Serenity
08-28-2009, 06:38 PM
I am trying to save money and get my own Sodium Chlorite, but cannot find it in a large enough capacity online. I found a source for about 4 ounces of the flakes for $25.00, but I want to get more.
The pool store has a large bag for $10.00 of Sodium Chloride 28% with inert ingredients, but I don't think that is the same. Can anyone give me a clue. In the second book Mr. Hubble says to order from two sources, but they are not of significant amount and are not inexpensive.
waitinginthewings
08-28-2009, 07:39 PM
Blessings alyscat,
Waitinginthewings found DMSO at the Farm and Feed Store near where she lives in Canada.
Usually the cost of DMSO is a lot less in a feed store than in a health food store for those in the US.
PaL
Peaceandlove: Yes I was able to buy it at a horse supply store. Horse owners use it I gather. Its really inexpensive there. I purchased a large bottle, just in case it suddenly disappears of their shelves.
Unified Serenity
08-28-2009, 10:44 PM
Peaceandlove: Yes I was able to buy it at a horse supply store. Horse owners use it I gather. Its really inexpensive there. I purchased a large bottle, just in case it suddenly disappears of their shelves.
DMSO is great for healing ligaments, tendons, sore joints. It can cause a rash and leaves a funny taste in your mouth, sort of like artichokes. There are different strengths. Be careful how much you use, and what you mix it with. The vet strength stuff works, but it is strong. Good luck!
guidry
08-29-2009, 06:21 AM
oh goodness I may post now many thank yous Karen. I am very new in here and would like to ask question. If we must take the swine flu shot would taking MMS right afterwards flush it away?
Karen
08-29-2009, 09:08 AM
oh goodness I may post now many thank yous Karen. I am very new in here and would like to ask question. If we must take the swine flu shot would taking MMS right afterwards flush it away?
Hi Guidry,
You are welcome! The vaccinations - every one of them - are dangerous on so many levels that Dr. Carely http://drcarley.com said she will not take one. If they want to force it on her, she will shot with your gun then, I won't do it. Won't take the mark of the beast. They probably plan to put the microchips in the vaccines.
Dr. Deagle said you can't repair the damage - he could save your life, but this squalene adjuvant makes antibody to your nervous system and kills your nerves. Dr. Ott says that is the thing he can't find an antidote for.
MMS would help with some things - kills microbials in your body, and I think it does take out the heavy metals.
I won't take. It could be the one thing I would fight to the death over.
Many Blessings,
Karen
Swanny
08-29-2009, 09:09 AM
Hello guidry
Yea I think it should get most of the **** out of your system but not a micro chip if one of those is in the vaccine :thumbdown:
dolphin
09-07-2009, 07:04 AM
really impressed by the posts. so i've just started taking mms for 2 days.
does anyone know if you can have a cup of morning coffee after taking it? gotta have my morning coffee. and if so how long do you need to wait? does coffe affect it's potency?
Karl Karl
09-19-2009, 11:26 AM
I'd like to mention 2 things:
1. MMS2 (NOT MMS!) - Hypochlorous Acid
Not many people seem to know about Jim's recent announcement regarding MMS2 - Hypochlorous Acid. Please read about it here:
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro.htm
There's a discussion thread about MMS2 here:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16261
Please join in!
2. UPDATED PROTOCOLS FOR MMS1
Only when I read that MMS2 announcement did I realize that Jim has another website:
http://www.jimhumble.biz
In it contains many updated protocols for MMS (or "MMS1"), which was news to me.
In particular:
1. For colds/flu, we should be taking drops EVERY HOUR until the cold/flu stops (typically within 24 hours). You can start with a lower dosage like 3 drops first, and increase it by one drop every hour and cutting back if you feel nauseated.
2. For cancer, I asked Jim to confirm whether we should be following "Clara's 6x6 Protocol", which is 6 drops, then another 6 drops after 1 hour, and do that 3 times a day. He tells me that that is not enough, and we should also be taking the drops every hour for 8 hours a day!
Just wanted to share.
waitinginthewings
09-21-2009, 02:18 AM
I have a neighbour whose friend has come down with what sounds like the H1N1 virus. The symptoms are identical........does anyone know if colloidal silver will work or MMS? Please help.
Humble Janitor
09-21-2009, 02:53 AM
Do you really need an eye dropper or is there a better way to mix the MMS with activator?
I have both but have not used either yet.
waitinginthewings
09-21-2009, 03:05 AM
Do you really need an eye dropper or is there a better way to mix the MMS with activator?
I have both but have not used either yet.
Depends on what your MMS is in. If you have the blue bottle of MMS, it has a stopper in it that measures 1 drop at a time. Its easy to do. If you don't have a stopper then you will have to carefully use an dropper. Problem is I don't know what size dropper to use.....?
Humble Janitor
09-21-2009, 03:39 AM
Depends on what your MMS is in. If you have the blue bottle of MMS, it has a stopper in it that measures 1 drop at a time. Its easy to do. If you don't have a stopper then you will have to carefully use an dropper. Problem is I don't know what size dropper to use.....?
Yeah I have some in a blue bottle.
Good to have. I feel a little better knowing that I have it and can use it if/when I get sick.
MargueriteBee
10-17-2009, 02:21 AM
Just thought I would pop in a tell you my results. Since moving to the country last May I have been infected with thrush, which is a yeast infection. My tongue and mouth was covered in blisters, my tongue was thickly coated with yucky yellowish stuff and my lips were numb.
The medicine the doctor gave me made me sick to death, it was laced with the artifical sweetener in Splenda, so I couldn't use it.
I was kind of keeping it at bay with Himalayan Crystal Salt and Oregano Oil but it wasn't kicking it.
Well I got the MMS last week and decided the first thing I would do to see if it worked, was to brush my teeth with it. Wow oh wow, oh wow, by the time I was finished my tongue was nice and pink, sore but pink! Yeah, it gassed off and that was yucky. The blisters are gone now and I have much more vitality.
Last night I did 15 drops for the first time and was on the toilet all morning but I feel really clean.
I'm gonna make sure I have enough for all of the people in my radiant zone for sure! Hey, I heard it comes in powder form now which is great for shelf life.
ConsciousSponge
12-13-2009, 04:22 AM
After taking MMS for a while I have a strong aversion to it's taste, going to try it in the veggie caps.
A couple of months ago my wife and kids were sick and I caught what they had on a Thursday, I hadn't taken MMS in a while and took 7 drops on Friday night. It felt like the glands on both sides of my neck went tense, it was like they were about to explode and about 3 minutes later I was in the Bathroom puking. I was better by the end of the weekend, while my wife and kids were sick for 12 days. It was a terrible feeling, but maybe it was just the MMS at work destroying all the virus in my glands. I find dosing for colds and flu to be better managed at 2-3 drops an hour for about 5-7 hours sufficient, and much easier to handle than a large dose.
haibane
12-14-2009, 01:38 AM
I thought I'd share my indirect experience with the MMS:
A while ago I told a friend of mine, who happens to be a 'truth researcher', highly educated in natural sciences and stuff, about MMS. Couple of weeks ago ho got a bad flu, which he needed to get rid of quickly so he could travel, so he got himself an MMS set, available in local market through a web site.
First of all, the price, while being about the same as everywhere else, is actually on the verge of outrageous, as the average income in my country (one of the new EU members) is between 25 and 35% of that of the 'western' countries, also considering the cost of the supplies.
The set comes with a not very good translation of Jim Humble's book (it's hard to get a good translation even from mainstream publishing houses these days tho ;) And it's apparently only the 1st gen. information.
There was a nice local improvement bundled with the set - a bag of empty gelatine pill capsules and a small plastic syringe to fill them with the activated MMS, which should help a lot for those who have problems with the taste and smell.
According to my friend the theory behind how MMS works is essentially flawed, very incomplete and hardly deserving being even called a theory - the NaCLO2 available pretty much anywhere in the world isn't pure. The chemical itself needs to be stabilized by other ingredients so as not to deteriorate in relatively short time, and even though those additives are supposed to be inert, questions remain as to how inert they are once they enter the digestive system, and it seems obvious that the chemical reaction (not to mention the fruit juice recommended to hide the flavour, or the actual stomach content) must be much more complex than described in the available literature. He actually called his supplier to ask about this, but was told not to dig too deep in the matter - I wonder if it's like that elsewhere, or if people actually don't ask any questions at all. MMS really should be in the hands of medical doctors and serious researchers, but of course this collides with the big pharma interests, so not likely ...
The result however was a success - the thing worked rather well, even though my friend talked about really weird symptoms during the cure. He was good enough to travel in about 3 or 4 days. So - I'm rather happy to have a friend willing to conduct tests on humans on himself, as I'm now ready to make the investment and try it myself :)
yiolas
12-16-2009, 11:30 AM
Hi Guys, After much research I finally got my MMS in about a week ago. I began the regular potocal of increasing the dose my one drop everyday. The first day was great ! I opened up my nasal passages and I could really feel the fresh air I was breathing. I did not have any nausea or diarea .When I reached 6 drops twice a day, I woke up the next day with a pain in my lower back, in the region of my right kidney. I thought that I had probably sprained it the previous evening when I was do some housework. By the end of the day though I could barely walk because of the pain. I suddenly remembered that I have had a chronic but low grade kidney infection that activates every now and then. Then it dawned on me that the MMS was attacking the infection in my kidney. By why all of that pain ? I think the reason is that, I should have increased my water intake during this process of toxic cleansing. No one talks about how important it is to drink more water throughout the day as we are taking MMS. As soon as I began drinking about a glass of water every hour the pain began to subside.
yiolas
12-17-2009, 10:46 AM
Hi Guys,
I've increased my water intake but I am still in pain. It even increases after I take MMS. I've reduced my dose to 2 drops twice a day. Does anyone have any suggestions ? Thanks
peaceandlove
12-24-2009, 02:27 AM
Her cysts on her ovaries have pretty much disappeared and the large fibroid has reduced tremendously in size. I was going to wait until she re-visited her doctor to verify her results. The doctors wanted to remove them. She will probably be seeing her doctor in the next few weeks and I will update then. SEE BELOW!
This is the protocol that is on the internet about getting rid of cancer with MMS and DMSO.
(The only warning about using DMSO on humans that I have seen is about potential liver damage although that may be with over use.)
You add (5) 1/2 teaspoons of citric acid with 1/2 teaspoon of MMS swirl glass and wait three minutes and then add (5) 1/2 teaspoons of DMSO (reduce the amount of DMSO if skin irritation occurs).
Put the mixture into a fine mister and spray on skin. This is after you have taken a bath and cleaned the skin well as the DMSO will carry anything on the skin into the body. She says she lays down on a clean sheet or towel while the mixture is drying on her skin. She has been doing it daily and the cysts have almost completely disappeared. This is the only remedy she has been using and is not in conjunction with anything else. You spray it all over your body including the back (lean forward and spray over back to reach the whole back if you do not have anyone else to apply it). She then would re-spray the ovary and uterus areas and rub in. Wash hands well after that.
In the morning you wash it off.
After about 7 days the cysts and fibroid have greatly abated.
KEEP IN MIND WHEN USING THE DMSO THERE IS AN ODOR ASSOCIATED WITH IT SORT OF LIKE A GARLIC SMELL.
ALSO, YOU MAY EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT OF TINGLING WHILE THE PRODUCT IS DRYING. OPEN WOUNDS WILL STING A LITTLE.
:Update: GREAT NEWS!! My friend's most recent visit to her doctor regarding the tumor in her uterus revealed that it had reduced further in size and the doctor no longer feels it is necessary to perform surgery and she was asked to return in A YEAR for another check-up. She continues her protocol as described above to eventually eliminate the tumor all together.
http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing
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This company uses the nice dropper tops that don't crystallize or let out extra drops. Packaged by a FDA regulated Nutraceutical Company in sealed containers.
peaceandlove
12-24-2009, 02:42 AM
Hi Guys, After much research I finally got my MMS in about a week ago. I began the regular potocal of increasing the dose my one drop everyday. The first day was great ! I opened up my nasal passages and I could really feel the fresh air I was breathing. I did not have any nausea or diarea .When I reached 6 drops twice a day, I woke up the next day with a pain in my lower back, in the region of my right kidney. I thought that I had probably sprained it the previous evening when I was do some housework. By the end of the day though I could barely walk because of the pain. I suddenly remembered that I have had a chronic but low grade kidney infection that activates every now and then. Then it dawned on me that the MMS was attacking the infection in my kidney. By why all of that pain ? I think the reason is that, I should have increased my water intake during this process of toxic cleansing. No one talks about how important it is to drink more water throughout the day as we are taking MMS. As soon as I began drinking about a glass of water every hour the pain began to subside.
Hi yiolas,
I recently started back up on the MMS protocol and experienced the same pain in the back and after a couple days it stopped.
If you are in too much discomfort just back up a couple drops, as it appears you have, and then slowly come back up again. Maybe instead of adding another drop and taking the MMS twice a day (approximately 12 hours apart), you may more slowly detox the kidney if you took 2 drops maybe 4 times a day.
Information from Jim Humble:
For chronic or long-standing conditions always increase the number of drops very slowly over a period of weeks. it is best to increase by 1 drop each day until you feel some nausea. The next day drop back by 2 drops and stay at this level for several days until increasing again by 1 drop a day. In this way you gradually work your way higher, reducing and then increasing again to keep nausea under control. You may reduce problems by dividing the daily dose into a morning and a bedtime portion, but after some time always try to edge higher until you start feeling the nausea. If you continue to encounter nausea whenever you raise the dose then just remain for a long time on a level that does not cause problems. Eventually nausea with vomiting or diarrhea may catch up with you anyway but it is better if that is at a high rather than a low level of MMS.
I've certainly been extremely tired this time and sleeping more than usual.
Oh, and I have mentioned before on one the MMS pages about drinking extra water, taking more minerals and iodine while on the MMS.
Here is a repost about "Healing Crisis":
;) HERING'S LAW OF CURE:
"All cure starts from within out, from the head down and in reverse order as the symptoms have appeared."
;) LAW OF HEALING CRISIS:
"A healing crisis will occur only when an individual is ready both physiologically and psychologically. The basic foundation for all healing is nutritional preparedness. A healing crisis will begin from within out, in reverse order chronologically as to how the symptoms have appeared, tempered by the intensity of the trauma. The individual will have the opportunity to re-experience each trauma, both physical and psychological, beginning with the trauma of least severity. It must be recognised that traumas involving emotions, which include all traumas, will be released in order, beginning with unconsciousness, then apathy, grief, fear, anger, pain and eventually enthusiasm (love), in conjunction with the appropriate word patterns for each emotion and thought pattern (sensory memory) which are accessible at each level. Unconditional love and unconditional forgiveness are the keys to apply and transmute any resistance at any level, once these resistances are brought to view through the application of the laws of love, light and perfection."
With this definition Dr. Ray emphasises the importance of the emotional side of our health problems. Each disease, accident or surgical intervention contains a strong emotional component which needs to be re-experienced during a reaction, otherwise the healing will remain incomplete and the problem will present itself again at a later time for healing at a deeper level.
This also means that the body selects the kind of healing crisis that is most appropriate at the time, taking into consideration its needs and abilities to have a certain area healed or improved. We can consciously influence this choice by working on a particular problem. I also noticed that the body self tries to select a timing, which does not disable us during important events coming up. I have no doubt that we are guided on our healing path by our inner intelligence, which has our best interest at heart.
In the beginning our healing reactions will be mainly on the physical or biological level, but more and more we will experience the release of emotional blocks and changes in consciousness, preparing us for greater activity on the spiritual level.
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MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.
Kre8ive Lady
12-24-2009, 04:21 AM
really impressed by the posts. so i've just started taking mms for 2 days.
does anyone know if you can have a cup of morning coffee after taking it? gotta have my morning coffee. and if so how long do you need to wait? does coffe affect it's potency?
I hope these links help answer your question :original:
http://www.mmsanswers.com/?p=512
http://www.mmsanswers.com/?p=110
yiolas
12-24-2009, 11:31 PM
Thank-you Peace and Love for the reply. I have infact backed off a bit, now I'm afraid to work up to the 6 drops again. It was also making me very tired and I have a demanding schedule which requires me to be on the go 16 hours a day. Eventhough the arthritis in my hands has gotten better, I can't stand that lithargic feeling. I usually have a lot of energy. Do you think that If I took 2 drops every 4 waking hours for a couple of weeks or even a month it would do the job? I really don't have any serious medical problems, just minor chronic ones like toe nail fungus and a little arthritis in my hands. By the way, I bought my MMS from the company that you have listed in your post. They even sent it to me in Cyprus. I was worried that it would be examined at the post office, but they didn't scrutinize it . It was listed as a 'water purification kit' on the package. I order vitamins from the States as well and they are usually delayed in customs for a couple of days before I can receive them.
Mijas
01-04-2010, 06:49 PM
Hi everyone,
This is my first post, but I've read all of this thread & its really great to hear everyone's experiences with MMS. I started it about a month ago, got up to 12 drops 3 x day fairly quickly, not much discomfort, though I got nausea when I jumped up too fast. Stopped it over xmas but am back on it again. I got a cold 2 days ago, it would normally last for a week,but I took the MMS 6 drops regularly thru the day & I am fine today, so this stuff works!!
I am reasonably healthy, no serious diseases or anything but I do suspect i may have some 'nasties' lurking inside & was also told I had candida problems, by a natural therapist, after taking lots of antibiotics. Will post any progress on that here later.
My question is: does anyone do the 50% citric acid (in a capsule) protocol, (I think I read it on Jim Humbles site)??
I think its the easiest way to do the MMS, no taste, no waiting & no smell either. I have switched to doing this, but i hope I will have the same results! I make a 50% solution of citric acid, add say 5 drops of MMS to my capsule, equal measure of Citric acid & then take with 1/2 cup water. I also try to take this 4 x daily in smaller doses as per the new info on the site (its more effective this way).
Anyone else noticed that this is the easiest way, do you get the same results?
THanks,
Mijas
apple
01-06-2010, 02:27 AM
Today, January 5, 2010, on his radio show, the second hour, he states "don't use MMS" because it is not pure.
This surprised me since on Conscious Media Network and Project Camelot the idea seems to be to support the use of MMS.
Does anyone have any comments on Deagle's opposing views?
Freedom
01-06-2010, 04:14 AM
Today, January 5, 2010, on his radio show, the second hour, he states "don't use MMS" because it is not pure.
This surprised me since on Conscious Media Network and Project Camelot the idea seems to be to support the use of MMS.
Does anyone have any comments on Deagle's opposing views?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and put in my two-cents.....
I did some research on the MMS verses Deagle's opposing views...
then I went and tried some products that Deagle lists on his...
Nutrimedical site. To make a long story short...it saved my life
literally. Deagle's answer to MMS is a product
of magnesium oil that sounded to good to be true though
there is a book to back it up called; Holy Water, Sacred Oil
by Dr. C. Norman Shealy, M.D., PhD, which I have yet to get my
hands on but I will.
The magnesium oil has a plethora of uses/cures and he gives a lot
of information out about all his products (some of which you can get
elsewhere's for a few dollars less) I'd have to say I think he is spot on
when it comes to knowledge about the human body.
I think if one were to take the magnesium oil along with his diatomic
iodine with an occassional Allicin product you would be healthy live
long and prosper. Remember this....they (tptb) have had all the good
life sustaining stuff REMOVED from your food (if you want to call it that)
so most of us are deficient in these two minerals.
The guy is a genius with a photographic memory but I find his
personal religious standings more like a crusades warrior... a little
unnerving....so I don't listen to his radio talk show anymore.:lol3:
Karl Karl
01-06-2010, 08:29 AM
It is not obvious to me from what's posted above WHY we should not use MMS.
"MMS is not pure" - What does that mean exactly???
"Magnesium oil" - seems like the point there is that this is a better (even life-saving) product. Well, that may be the case (i have no idea), but that says absolutely NOTHING about MMS. If anything, that sounds like a conflict of interest with Deagle, and what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.
If anyone has any more info as to Deagle's point of view regarding MMS, I'd be most interested in hearing.
Also, Mijas, 3 x 15 drops is the OLD protocol. Jim has refined it to be that you should take MMS in smaller quantities as many times as possible in the day. That works MUCH better because your body ends up getting much more of it. Please see www.jimhumble.biz for the latest updates.
If a Mod reads this, I think the first post of this thread should be edited with this info, because clearly many people reading this thread are still stuck in the old 15 x 3 paradigm.
yiolas
01-06-2010, 08:33 AM
Hi Guys,
I'm no expert here.
But I don't think that it is an either or situation here.
The MMS books clearly state that MMS is simply and only
a pathogen killer. It's sole purpose is to kill viruses, bacteria
and other pathogens that have found their way and multiply
in our bodies.
It is not a nutritional, mineral or vitamin supplement.
Now if you want to build up your immune system or other
system working in your body over time, then you take the
mineral and vitamin supplement route.
I've checked out Deagle's site and he's got quite of few
interesting products there. They are a bit cost prohibitive
though.
What did he mean in his radio program by "MMS is not pure" ?
What date did you here this ? We should go to the archives.
MMS is not produced by Jim Humble himself.
Jim only writes the books.
We buy MMS from other independant manufactures.
Freedom
01-06-2010, 06:22 PM
It is not obvious to me from what's posted above WHY we should not use MMS.
"MMS is not pure" - What does that mean exactly???
"Magnesium oil" - seems like the point there is that this is a better (even life-saving) product. Well, that may be the case (i have no idea), but that says absolutely NOTHING about MMS. If anything, that sounds like a conflict of interest with Deagle, and what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The "Magnesium Oil" did not save my life...it was another of Deagles
products that did. I can't speak for MMS other than what I have read
on the internet...and it seems to me that it was for helping in EXTREME
illness and not to be a daily supplement....I am sure it is good.
Magnesium oil is not something to be taken orally..though small amounts may be ingested....and it is excellant for brushing your teeth...
it is absorbed through the skin (our largest organ) I dilute mine...and I do not use it on a daily basis.
I don't like to think that we need all these supplements to exist,
however some of us (myself) have self inflicted physical problems that
need some resolve and so I EXPERIMENT with lots of things...what works
for one may not work for another....there is POWER in INTENT....and LOVE.
Namaste.....Freedom
Mijas
01-07-2010, 12:50 AM
Thanks Karl Karl for that link to the new protocol. I had been just taking it 3 times a day, I will take smaller doses more regularly during the day from now on.
I did take it more regularly when trying to get rid of a cold recently & this worked as it was completely gone by Day 3.
peaceandlove
01-07-2010, 02:50 AM
Thank-you Peace and Love for the reply. I have infact backed off a bit, now I'm afraid to work up to the 6 drops again. It was also making me very tired and I have a demanding schedule which requires me to be on the go 16 hours a day. Eventhough the arthritis in my hands has gotten better, I can't stand that lithargic feeling. I usually have a lot of energy. Do you think that If I took 2 drops every 4 waking hours for a couple of weeks or even a month it would do the job? I really don't have any serious medical problems, just minor chronic ones like toe nail fungus and a little arthritis in my hands. By the way, I bought my MMS from the company that you have listed in your post. They even sent it to me in Cyprus. I was worried that it would be examined at the post office, but they didn't scrutinize it . It was listed as a 'water purification kit' on the package. I order vitamins from the States as well and they are usually delayed in customs for a couple of days before I can receive them.
Hi yiolas,
Yes, I understand about the lethargic feelings since I've been sleeping quite a bit myself and even missing my alarm when it goes off. One cleanse I went on years ago sent me to bed for a week and I was unable to function at all, so the MMS at least lets me function.
Happy to hear you had no problems receiving the MMS through that website.
Go direct to this page that describes about taking smaller doses more often.
http://www.jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm
Thanks Karl Karl for including the link to the find the new protocol.
I just haven't been on the forum much as I'm tired myself, but grateful for this wonderful product.
Here is the link again, which now includes discounts for quantity buying: http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing
FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.
5 and 10 Pack MMS Specials Also Available
Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.
This company uses the nice dropper tops that don't crystallize so badly or let out extra drops. (I do remove the top once in a while and rinse it out) Packaged by a FDA regulated Nutraceutical Company in sealed containers.
Menkaure
01-07-2010, 04:04 PM
I'm trying to ask 'Seven' a question... What formula did you use in your post about toenail fungus?
I have some MMS but do not see improvements. I must be doing something wrong????
Thanks.. Menkaure
eleni
01-07-2010, 04:42 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and put in my two-cents.....
I did some research on the MMS verses Deagle's opposing views...
then I went and tried some products that Deagle lists on his...
Nutrimedical site. To make a long story short...it saved my life
literally. Deagle's answer to MMS is a product
of magnesium oil that sounded to good to be true though
there is a book to back it up called; Holy Water, Sacred Oil
by Dr. C. Norman Shealy, M.D., PhD, which I have yet to get my
hands on but I will.
The magnesium oil has a plethora of uses/cures and he gives a lot
of information out about all his products (some of which you can get
elsewhere's for a few dollars less) I'd have to say I think he is spot on
when it comes to knowledge about the human body.
I think if one were to take the magnesium oil along with his diatomic
iodine with an occassional Allicin product you would be healthy live
long and prosper. Remember this....they (tptb) have had all the good
life sustaining stuff REMOVED from your food (if you want to call it that)
so most of us are deficient in these two minerals.
The guy is a genius with a photographic memory but I find his
personal religious standings more like a crusades warrior... a little
unnerving....so I don't listen to his radio talk show anymore.:lol3:
I have that book.......also have been using magnesium oil for past 3 years daily and love it.....also love the bath salts, Ancient Minerals sells both and are of very high quality......
Anchor
01-10-2010, 11:39 PM
MMS hatchet job in Australia:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/deadly-chemical-being-sold-as-miracle-cure-20100108-lyvl.html
A..
Peter
01-12-2010, 08:49 PM
Hello everybody, i don't know if this has been posted yet http://www.smh.com.au/national/death-in-paradise-20100108-lyxv.html
Sounds like a set up job to destroy the credibility of MMS.
I'm still taking MMS now and again and I've never had any problems.
I wonder who the Belgian sailor who gave the bottle to the woman is, perhaps there was something other than sodium chlorite in the bottle ???
yiolas
01-12-2010, 09:42 PM
"]Hi Everyone,
This is my experience with MMS so far. I've been taking it for about 1 month now (except for one week during the Christmas Holidays), there was too much food and drink going on at the time. I haven't been too regular with my daily dosages either. I've experimented taking a couple of drops every 4 hours to 4 drops 3 times a day. Whatever the case is, I no longer have sharp piercing pains in my hands from arthritis ( and this is from taking it for less than a month). I've had these pains for more than 4 years now and they are gone ! I will continue taking it on and off indefinitely.
I tried giving it to my Mom who is 78. She has suffered with severe osteoarthritis and loss of bone density since her 40's and is on at least 7 different types of medication daily. She could barely do 1 drop a day at bed time. On the second day she suffered terrible headaches and back aches. We discontinued a couple of days and started again, but the pains came back.
I don't think that she is wiling to see it thru so I'm just giving her vitamin C, D3 and Omega 3.
I would be interested to hear other people's experiences.
Has any one tried the inhailing protocol, which calls for only 2 drops MMS with 5 drops of citric acid, waiting the 3 minutes, do not add water and then inhaling the vapors (deeply) 4 times through the nose and 4 times through the mouth ? It's supposed to go deep into nasal passages and the lungs to kill bacteria and viruses.[/COLOR]
Anchor
01-12-2010, 09:52 PM
Hello everybody, i don't know if this has been posted yet http://www.smh.com.au/national/death-in-paradise-20100108-lyxv.html
Sounds like a set up job to destroy the credibility of MMS.
I'm still taking MMS now and again and I've never had any problems.
I wonder who the Belgian sailor who gave the bottle to the woman is, perhaps there was something other than sodium chlorite in the bottle ???
Check the post immediately above yours :)
haibane
01-12-2010, 10:18 PM
"MMS is not pure" - What does that mean exactly???
The pure NaClO2 is unstable and degrades quickly by absorbing water from the air, therefore the commercially available product has additives (stabilizers) which prevent that, as far as I know it's 15 to 20 %. However NaClO2 isn't the same as MMS, right? It is, as far as I understand the matter, the commercially available NaClO2 (hence not pure), in a particular concentration and amount, activated with particular amount of citric acid, according to the protocol - but then again, it is up to Jim Humble to define what IS actually MMS. He has demonstrated that it works, with the brands of NaClO2 he's been using, but it would be safe to assume that different manufacturers may use different formulas, and therefore advisable to check the particular composition before you buy or make it yourself.
The theory behind how MMS works is in fact more of a hypothesis, as no clinical test conducted by qualified and appropriately equipped scientific institution are publicly available to my knowledge (and a question would remain how trustworthy such research would be once made public), and MDs, in whose hands it should be in in the first place if we lived in a sane world, won't touch it with a barge pole. So it is also safe to assume that there are bound to be some contraindications and that it may not be 100 % safe to everyone under all circumstances, which was recently proven.
I have no problem with any of the above, as long as everyone who takes it is fully aware of this.
gscraig
01-31-2010, 05:33 PM
The theory behind how MMS works is in fact more of a hypothesis, as no clinical test conducted by qualified and appropriately equipped scientific institution are publicly available to my knowledge (and a question would remain how trustworthy such research would be once made public), and MDs, in whose hands it should be in in the first place if we lived in a sane world, won't touch it with a barge pole
So many ways this statement rubbed me the wrong way. I agree getting some more appropriately equipped scientific clinical testing would be idea, but the rest is way off course in my opinion. Let's first address this in a more realistic manner as to how it applies today. Many of our medications and supplements are tested "appropriately" and approved by the FDA, but yet create death, harm, addicition and unnecessary repeat customers needing another drug to deal with side effects of the one prescribed to them.
My doctor approving something for me is a personal judgement call, because he/she may recommend the same drugs that may result in the following categories listed above. If you ask a doctor about a homeopathic medication, most of them would be clueless as to what to advise because they have no training in homepathics (due to this lack funding for "appropriate" clinical testing), and will often recommend against it. This is due to feeling there's no substantial testing...There's nothing sane about that in my world.
Pharmaceutical companies and the strategic incentives they sometime offer to doctors for recommending or using some of there products proves how much your health may really matter to some doctors, compared to profit.
The FDA is a repeat offender of failing the public in this regard, so MMS being viewed with less credentials, data, adequate testing and safety protocols is mostly a farce. Notice how the drugs the FDA approve have consistently surfaced as more harmful than the ones that are not.
The second leading cause of death is Hospitals/Medications/Wrongful diagnosis.
peaceandlove
02-17-2010, 06:26 PM
Hi Everyone, I've experimented taking a couple of drops every 4 hours to 4 drops 3 times a day. Whatever the case is, I no longer have sharp piercing pains in my hands from arthritis ( and this is from taking it for less than a month). I've had these pains for more than 4 years now and they are gone ! I will continue taking it on and off indefinitely.
I tried giving it to my Mom who is 78. She has suffered with severe osteoarthritis and loss of bone density since her 40's and is on at least 7 different types of medication daily. She could barely do 1 drop a day at bed time. On the second day she suffered terrible headaches and back aches. We discontinued a couple of days and started again, but the pains came back.
I don't think that she is wiling to see it thru so I'm just giving her vitamin C, D3 and Omega 3.
Hi Violas,
Happy to hear your arthritis is improved.
Did you try to give your mother 1/2 drop? That dosage can be achieved by preparing a 1 drop MMS to 5 drop Citric Acid...after activation (3 minutes) add the water then pour off half of that to achieve a 1/2 drop dosage.
Here is a response from Jim Humble regarding migraines (headaches).
I am really really sorry about the Migraine. Migraines happen on occasions. I’ve had a number of people call about migraines. In my opinion there is no such thing as people who cannot handle the MMS. But the thing that you did wrong was to take another dose of 6 drops of MMS. You couldn’t have known not to, of course. The technology says when you are creating a pain or sickness or any other bad reaction, back off to the extent that you are not causing the problem. This could mean that you need to back off as far as taking only 1/2 drop at a time. However never quit taking MMS.
However, you have a headache right now that you need to get rid of. That has happened as a result of something anaerobic being killed as MMS cannot do anything else. It doesn’t have the power to do anything else and that has been demonstrated for 70 years. One of the things that we have done to absorb the poisons generated is to use apples. Remember, “an apple a day keeps the doctor away.” Apples are the best blood cleaner around. Grated apples are best as the cells are opened. You know the same grater as you use for cheese. I’d suggest 2 apples every hour until the headache goes away. Then don’t stop taking MMS, but go very slow. Like I said, drop back to 1 drop or 1/2 drop maybe several times a day. Take apples as needed.
The other things I would try if the apples don’t work are a teaspoon full of powdered vitamin C (5000) milligrams every hour until diarrhea starts and then stop, or stop when the headache goes away. OR a teaspoon of baking soda every hour for three hours or less. Both of these items prevent the chlorine dioxide from being generated.
Let me know how you are doing. Good fortune and Good luck, always.
I hope that helps. :original:
PaL
Here is some other interesting information I just saw on the internet about MMS effectiveness as a mouthwash. Perhaps if your mother just used it as a mouthwash the dosage would be just incidental since there would be no swallowing.
Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) Proves To Be Effective Mouthwash
Previous research has shown the oxidizing properties and microbiological efficacies of chlorine dioxide (ClO2). Its clinical efficacies on oral malodor have been evaluated and reported only in short duration trials,moreover, no clinical studies have investigated its microbiological efficacies on periodontal and malodorous bacteria.
Thus, the aim of this study was to assess the inhibitory effects of a mouthwash containing ClO2 used for 7days on morning oral malodor and on salivary periodontal and malodorous bacteria.
Methods: A randomized, double blind, crossover, placebo-controlled trial was conducted among 15 healthy male volunteers, who were divided into 2 groups. Subjects were instructed to rinse with the experimental mouthwash containing ClO2 or the placebo mouthwash, without ClO2, twice per day for 7 days.
After a one week washout period, each group then used the opposite mouthwash for 7 days. At baseline and after 7 days, oral malodor was evaluated with Organoleptic measurement (OM), and analyzed the concentrations of hydrogen sulfide (H2S), methyl mercaptan (CH3SH) and dimethyl sulfide ((CH3)2S), the main VSCs of human oral malodor, were assessed by gas chromatography (GC).
Clinical outcome variables included plaque and gingival indices, and tongue coating index. The samples of saliva were microbiologically investigated.
Quantitative and qualitative analyses were performed using the polymerase chain reaction-Invader method.Results and DiscussionThe baseline oral condition in healthy subjects in the 2 groups did not differ significantly. After rinsing with the mouthwash containing ClO2 for 7 days, morning bad breath decreased as measured by the OM and reduced the concentrations of H2S, CH3SH and (CH3)2S measured by GC, were found.
Moreover ClO2 mouthwash used over a 7-day period appeared effective in reducing plaque, tongue coating accumulation and the counts of Fusobacterium nucleatum in saliva. Future research is needed to examine long-term effects, as well as effects on periodontal diseases and plaque accumulation in a well-defined sample of halitosis patients and broader population samples.Trial registration: ClinicalTrials.gov NCT00748943
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shybastid
02-18-2010, 01:59 AM
OK.. I'm throwing my 2 cents in if anybody cares.
I have taken MMS on and of now for over a year. For me personaly there is no question it has health benefits. I just can't get past 6 shots 3 times a day period. So I obviously have health issues. I'm going to have to encapsulize future intake. No matter what I do.. I can't get past the taste.
After 3 or 4 days of doses above 4 drops? I can't even THINK of the smell.
I've tryed all suggested treatments to camaflauge the flavor exept putting it in capsules. I think that is the only way I'm going to be able to hack it.
Having said that.. I used it as a local application on one of my dogs tumors..Premixing and applying directly onto his fur.
Gone...
Coincidence? Maybe.. I tend to think not because of how I feel when I take it internally. I feel better everytime.
If I drink beer(guilty) I NEVER get a hangove the next day when I'm dosing up on MMS.
Besides getting over the taste..I guess my biggest complaint with MMS is the increase in dream activity. It drives me nuts! They are no longer dreams that I can watch or participate in. They are full color movie shorts and I can't tell if I'm dreaming. I usually know it's a dream. On MMS?
Too vivid.. I can't tell I'm dreaming.
That might be good.. I'm not sure yet. Kinda cool..but not.
Anybody else see an increase in dream activity? Oh..and I can remember them easier because their so much more vivid.
shybastid
02-18-2010, 02:17 AM
Sorry about the typo's.
And one more point I forgot. After a whole year..I'm still on my first bottle of MMS. For 30dollars(U.S.) delivered to you door,this has to be the best detoxing product money can buy.
For some of you people considering purchasing the product...I made up my mind on about page 20 on the previous forum on MMS.
I endorse this product strictly as a killer of pathogens.
You have pathogens?
MMS is good. They will seek them out.
Best bang for your buck out there.
In my opinion.:trumpet:
UncleJohn
02-18-2010, 02:34 AM
OK, I'm going to make a new conjecture here about MMS.
One of my good friends and neighbors is a research chemist. I showed him the MMS doc and he showed me several graduate level Chemistry books covering precisely how this compound would react in the body. He stated that there is no way that MMS survives the stomach. Perhaps he is right?
I sometimes have sensitive teeth. If you have studied natural medicine you would learn that there are energy lines that go from your tooth roots to various parts of your body.
Several times when my one of my teeth was hurting I would gargle several times with MMS. Within a day the pain when away every time. Otherwise it lasted and I would have to have a goo put under my gums by my dentist.
Perhaps the activity of MMS never passes beyond your mouth. It cures by directly effecting your tooth roots and somehow this healing energy is passed to other parts of your body.
In other words, you don't need to swallow the stuff? Perhaps you can handle stronger doses this way?
BTW, on a licensed medical professional's recommendation I take a B-12 sublingual vitamin everyday, so the idea is not new of absorption through the mouth to avoid the effects of the stomach.
waitinginthewings
02-18-2010, 06:13 AM
OK, I'm going to make a new conjecture here about MMS.
One of my good friends and neighbors is a research chemist. I showed him the MMS doc and he showed me several graduate level Chemistry books covering precisely how this compound would react in the body. He stated that there is no way that MMS survives the stomach. Perhaps he is right?
I sometimes have sensitive teeth. If you have studied natural medicine you would learn that there are energy lines that go from your tooth roots to various parts of your body.
Several times when my one of my teeth was hurting I would gargle several times with MMS. Within a day the pain when away every time. Otherwise it lasted and I would have to have a goo put under my gums by my dentist.
Perhaps the activity of MMS never passes beyond your mouth. It cures by directly effecting your tooth roots and somehow this healing energy is passed to other parts of your body.
In other words, you don't need to swallow the stuff? Perhaps you can handle stronger doses this way?
BTW, on a licensed medical professional's recommendation I take a B-12 sublingual vitamin everyday, so the idea is not new of absorption through the mouth to avoid the effects of the stomach.
Indeed homeopathics are taken in this manner, under the tongue & left to dissolve or the liquid form to penetrate the tissue.
You may be onto something here....very interesting & possibly worth doing a trial on this method to see if it produces positive results.
Mijas
02-19-2010, 12:44 PM
OK.. I'm throwing my 2 cents in if anybody cares.
I have taken MMS on and of now for over a year. For me personaly there is no question it has health benefits. I just can't get past 6 shots 3 times a day period. So I obviously have health issues. I'm going to have to encapsulize future intake. No matter what I do.. I can't get past the taste.
After 3 or 4 days of doses above 4 drops? I can't even THINK of the smell.
I've tryed all suggested treatments to camaflauge the flavor exept putting it in capsules. I think that is the only way I'm going to be able to hack it.
Having said that.. I used it as a local application on one of my dogs tumors..Premixing and applying directly onto his fur.
Gone...
Coincidence? Maybe.. I tend to think not because of how I feel when I take it internally. I feel better everytime.
If I drink beer(guilty) I NEVER get a hangove the next day when I'm dosing up on MMS.
Besides getting over the taste..I guess my biggest complaint with MMS is the increase in dream activity. It drives me nuts! They are no longer dreams that I can watch or participate in. They are full color movie shorts and I can't tell if I'm dreaming. I usually know it's a dream. On MMS?
Too vivid.. I can't tell I'm dreaming.
That might be good.. I'm not sure yet. Kinda cool..but not.
Anybody else see an increase in dream activity? Oh..and I can remember them easier because their so much more vivid.
I use a 50% solution of citric acid and equal measure of this and MMS, put it in a capsule, no waiting, no smell, no taste! Works just as well. Cant say I've noticed the dreaming, but I only take it when i need to (like this a.m, when I woke up with a sore throat and coughing!) I take it every 2 hours during the day when I am not well, it definitely shortens the time I am sick. So thankful to Jim Humble for discovering the healing effects of this and for all the info on his website (and this one for all the tips on using it)
shybastid
02-19-2010, 10:22 PM
OK Dumb question.. I don't remember where it says how to encapsulate the liquid after I mix it. Would'nt MMS dissolve the capsule?
Sorry if I sound naive. What am I missing?
Mijas
02-20-2010, 05:20 PM
It is on the Jim Humble website under New Protocol, sorry I cant remember exactly where, but I did read it.
I use an eye dropper, I put say 6 drops of MMS into an empty capsule, which you can buy (I get mine at Iherb), then I add my 50% solution citric acid (2 spoons citric acid and 2 spoons purified or filtered water, shake VERY well), close capsule, I wait about 30 seconds until it turns a deeper yellow colour, then take with water.
Before I read this, I tried activating my MMS the normal way (with lemon juice) then I poured this (without adding water) into an empty capsule, waited 3 mins.
The capsule was just on the verge of melting at this stage, but since I couldnt bear the taste, I did this until I read about the new protocol.
hope this helps,
Val
waitinginthewings
02-20-2010, 05:32 PM
MMS hatchet job in Australia:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/deadly-chemical-being-sold-as-miracle-cure-20100108-lyvl.html
A..
This quote from the link provided here, got my attention & I had to laugh;
the TGA.
''[MMS] is dangerous … It's not the sort of thing you should be skolling down like lolly water. These things are not without risk in terms of toxicity and overdoses or other side effects.''
What is lolly water? or does it mean holy water?
Don't you just love the part about toxicity, overdoses, and side effects.
Now let me see, what other chemicals do you know of that is legally & readily available to you & even considered safe...............hmmmmmmmmm oh yea, that will be PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS.
Anchor.....indeed a total hatchet job.
waitinginthewings
02-20-2010, 05:34 PM
I'm trying to ask 'Seven' a question... What formula did you use in your post about toenail fungus?
I have some MMS but do not see improvements. I must be doing something wrong????
Thanks.. Menkaure
Mix it & apply directly (topically) to the fungus.
I have read of others who have done this & it works.
Freedive
02-22-2010, 12:28 AM
hi all, I'm presently trying it out, I've worked myself up to the 15 drops 3 times a day and have to endure another week of it until I can switch to the lower "maintenance" dosage. I'm basically very healthy but had some skin irritations on my arms, and had to constantly fight off skin fungus and athlete's foot with creams and powders. Results so far: skin irritations gone in 4 days at the time of initial lower dosage, athlete's foot gone after 1.5wk, fungus gone as of a few days ago (1 wk into the full dosage).
So far so good, now comes the biggest challenge: I think I've got a basal melanoma that's developing, I had quite a few removed in the past (...used to love a mean suntan!), I want to see if it gets cured by MMS and would welcome any advice on the subject.
The fact that some are trying to discredit MMS is in my opinion really sick.
The only negative thing I must say is that from my experience it's not an easy cure, I've had "montezuma's revenge" striking me heavily for a few days...wow it was a drag...and on and off up to now, but I ani't stopping.
Anchor
02-22-2010, 01:25 AM
The website I used to procure mms (www.mmsexperience.com.au) no longer resolves to a viable website. So thats what you get for speaking up for MMS in Australia.
Freedive
02-22-2010, 01:43 AM
The website I used to procure mms (www.mmsexperience.com.au) no longer resolves to a viable website. So thats what you get for speaking up for MMS in Australia.
...sh.t that happened fast, they sent me my MMS on Jan 28th, got it the next day, they were a very effective distributor, I wish them luck and send them my appreciation and respect for having tried.
Mijas
02-24-2010, 12:56 AM
Freedive,
I'm no expert, but some people have good results with MMS and DMSO together, you will find more info on Jim Humble's website.
Also, try the Indian herb, it helped my mother get rid of a growth on her face, but be warned it was quite a strong reaction (ie growth swelled, went very red & itchy for a few days before dropping off, it also caused a crater that went down under the skin, but it all came right in the end!) If you google it you will find the website & get lots more info on it.
Good luck. Val
Freedive
02-24-2010, 07:00 AM
Freedive,
I'm no expert, but some people have good results with MMS and DMSO together, you will find more info on Jim Humble's website.
Also, try the Indian herb, it helped my mother get rid of a growth on her face, but be warned it was quite a strong reaction (ie growth swelled, went very red & itchy for a few days before dropping off, it also caused a crater that went down under the skin, but it all came right in the end!) If you google it you will find the website & get lots more info on it.
Good luck. Val
thankyou Val, I'll check it out,
ciao
Grissom
03-09-2010, 08:20 PM
Be careful MMS is very hard on the kidneys!
I find for infections colloidal silver works much better.
Say you want info on cancer? Here ya go :winksmiley02:
2. CANCER TEST
Here is something your doctor will probably never tell you. There has been a medical test for cancer that is 99% effective for more than 25 years. It is more effective, less dangerous, and cheaper than all other medical cancer tests. It’s called the AMAS cancer test.
You don’t have to go to a doctor; the test is available on the Internet. The cost is $165. The kit is free, you take a smear of your own blood, send it in and pay when the results are ready. The test is for specific cancer antibodies that will be present. Go to www.oncolabinc.com. I have no financial interest what so ever. Take responsibility for yourself. You will probably have to have your doctor request this test.
You can also get an idea about whether MMS will handle a cancer problem by evaluating the level of nausea you experience. You would start out at say one MMS drop or even 1/2 drop and observe that it does not make you nauseous. Then you begin to increase the drops twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening. That is if 1/2 drop doesn't make you nauseous in the morning, then in the evening or late afternoon try one full drop. Then the next morning take two drops and in the evening 3 drops.
Sooner or later the number of drops is going to make you nauseous. You then take a drop or two less the next dose for a time or two and continue to increase the drops. You are always looking for the nauseous point, taking less for a time or two and attempting to take more.
You will be able to know if it is going to help you if you can continue to pass the nausea point and increase the drops. What is happening is that when nausea hits, some of the cancer has been destroyed and it is now a poison that the body can clear out. Being able to clear out this poison is a part of it. The body can clear this poison out but it might generate some nausea in the process, or diarrhea or even vomiting. That’s not bad.
The idea is that as the cancer is destroyed the body must clean out the poisons. As the cancer is destroyed the body can tolerate more and more drops. That’s the indicator - is the body gradually being able to tolerate more and more drops? If you find that you can gradually increase the drops without getting nauseous it's an indicator that the body is doing it's job.
In the case of cancer, you have to work at it. You start out slowly but increase quickly. At first you might just take the drops twice a day, but as you find you can do it twice a day without nausea, then increase to three times a day, and then four, and even as much as five times a day. Use Apples to overcome nausea. Use grated apples. Get a stainless steel grater. Don't buy the cheap tin grater. The grated metal cuts up the cells of the apple best. If a certain number of drops of MMS is making you nauseous, try at least two apples grated right after you take the MMS or just before you start getting nauseous. Always try the apples first, even two extra apples (4 altogether), but if you are still too sick, take as much as two teaspoons of baking soda in water.
What would indicate that you are not getting well is if the body got nauseous every time you take a dose no matter what amount of dose it is, and the body never seems to be able to increase the doses without nausea. But work at it. You can make it work. If you can take say two drops at a time without nausea and you get nausea when you go to three drops, you may have to tolerate the nausea for a short time, but if the nausea always occurs when you take three drops, it shows that you are not gaining on the cancer.
That can happen if the cancer is growing faster than the MMS is killing it. There is, however, always hope. One way would be instead of increasing the number of drops, increase the number of times that you take drops during the day. Read below. There are other actions that can help. Never, however, in any case stop taking the MMS.
So if there is an indication that one is not improving, then I suggest the following direction. Purchase some Indian Herb from Kathleen in Texas. It costs $60 a vial and that is plenty. Phone 806 647-1741 She has a thousand letters from people who have been helped. She and her father have been selling the Indian herb for over 60 years. When you get this herb use it with the MMS to get the best results. It comes with instructions.
The AMAS cancer test listed above gives people a fantastic advantage. One can do a test, use the MMS for several weeks or a month and then do a second test to see how much improvement has taken place or to see if any improvement has happened at all.
When drops of MMS are mentioned one should add 5 times that many drops of unfiltered vinegar, or lemon, or lime, or citric acid solution, wait three minutes and then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. Never use MMS without the addition of vinegar, lemon, lime, or citric acid. Use only apple, grape, or pineapple juice without added vitamin C or ascorbic acid or see the TASTE-OVERCOMING on the list of protocols.
CONTACT INFO: Before writing to the MMS Institute about specific disease questions you should visit the knowledge base and click on various diseases that may be of interest. Click here: [ http://MMSanswers.com ]
3. MMS Methods for Cancer
This cancer procedure has been used enough times to convince us that it is the most successful so far for life threatening diseases. Normal flu and colds treatments do not need to be as intense as is described here.
This method uses two different techniques to get the chlorine dioxide into the body. The first technique is what we first called Clara's 6 and 6 protocol. That was where we gave a person 6 drops of MMS with the activation and then waited one hour and then gave another six drops. Many amazing things happened when using this six and six. However the thing that developed from this method was to use the 6 and 6 three times in a day. In the morning, at noon and in the evening before retiring.
The results were in many cases quite amazing as I was mostly suggesting the use of both techniques together. Cancers dried up and tumors simply began falling apart and other problems began to drop away.
You probably know that we don't have any millions or even thousands of dollars for reseach, but many people do call and I suggest things to do, and some call back to say how they are doing. I base my conclusions on those who call back or those who come by my house in Mexico.
One cannot begin to use the 6 and 6 technique with persons that are very sick. They must be treated very carefully. We usually start new cancer patients that are very sick on 1 drop doses. So we use 1 and 1. That is we do a single drop dose and then wait an hour and then do the second drop dose. We do this in the morning, at noon and at night. That makes for 6 drops during a day for a very sick person. Some people might start at 2 and 2. Again that would be 2 drops and wait an hour and then two more drops. This would be done in the morning, at noon, and then in the evening before bed.
OF COURSE, WHEN I SAY 2 DROPS OR 5 DROPS OF MMS OR ANY OTHER NUMBER I ALWAYS MEAN THAT 5 DROPS OF CITRIC ACID SOLUTION OF LEMON JUICE IS USED WITH EACH DROP OF MMS. ONE THEN WAITS 3 MINUTES BEFORE ADDING JUICE OR WATER TO THE DOSE. ALWAYS, 5 DROPS OF CITRIC SOLUTION OR LEMON JUICE IS ALWAYS ADDED TO EACH DROP OF MMS.
Depending upon how sick the person is, that determines the number of drops to use in the starting doses. A person who is running around OK could be started at 6 and 6 drops doses.
However, no matter how many drops one starts with, if he does not notice any nausea the next day he should increase the number of drops by plus one. If the person started with 6 and 6 then the next day he would go to 7 and 7 three times during that day, and the day after it would be 8 and 8.
Anytime one notices nausea, always drop back a drop or two for up to a day before increasing the drops again. That is the technique for using Clara's 6 and 6 drop doses one hour apart. They should be increased slowly, carefully one drop a day until you are at 15 and 15. It may take a while to get to this point as the cancer should be almost cured by this time. Often the patient will get nauseous and you will have to drop back.
THE BASIC PRINCIPLE FOR ALL LIFE THREATENING DISEASES IS ALWAYS GIVE THE PERSON AS MUCH MMS AS HE OR SHE CAN STAND WITHOUT GETTING VERY NAUSEOUS, OR GETTING DIARRHEA.
THAT MEANS OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY, NOT JUST ONE BIG DOSE, BUT MANY DOSES OVER THE DAY, USUALLY AS I HAVE DESCRIBED ABOVE. SUCCESS IS DETERMINED BY THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP INCREASING THE DOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT WHEN NAUSEA SHOWS UP, BACK OFF WITH LESS DROPS.
RARELY BUT SOMETIMES A PERSON WILL REACH A POINT WHERE THEY REACT WITH A LOT OF DIARRHEA OR NAUSEA. STOP IMMEDIATELY AND WAIT UNTIL THE NAUSEA OR DIARRHEA IS GONE, THEN START AGAIN WITH LESS DROPS PER DOSE, SOMETIMES LESS THAN 1/2 OF WHAT HE WAS TAKING. ALL DOSES SHOULD BE THE SAME, SO IF YOU REDUCE TO, FOR EXAMPLE 9 DROPS ACTIVATED MMS, ALL DOSES SHOULD BE 9 DROPS OF MMS BEING TWICE 1 HOUR APART THREE TIMES A DAY. (THAT'S A TOTAL OF 6 NINE DROP DOSES). REMEMBER, ALWAYS AS MUCH AS THE PERSON CAN STAND WITHOUT GETTING NAUSEOUS OR DIARRHEA.
3a. CANCER TREATMENT
1. Telling if MMS will help the cancer – and MMS cancer protocol
Here is something your doctor will never tell you, there has been a medical test for cancer that is 99% effective for more than 25 years. It is more effective, less dangerous and cheaper than all other medical cancer tests. It’s called AMAS cancer test. You don’t have to go to a doctor; the test is available on the Internet. The cost is $165. The kit is free, you take a smear of your own blood and send it in and pay when the results are ready. The test is for specific cancer antibodies that will be present. Go to www.oncolabinc.com. I have no financial interest what so ever.
You can get an idea if the MMS will handle the problem by evaluating the nausea. That is, if you start out at say one drop or even 1/2 drop and it does not make you nauseous and then you begin to increase the drops twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening. That is if 1/2 drop doesn't make you nauseous in the morning, then in the evening or late afternoon try one full drop. Then the next morning take two drops and in the evening 3 drops. Sooner or later the number of drops is going to make you nauseous. You then take a drop or two less the next dose for a time or two and continue to increase the drops. You are always looking for the nauseous point, taking less for a time or two and attempting to take more.
You will be able to know if it is going to help you if you can continue to pass the nausea point and increase the drops. What is happening is that when nausea hits, some of the cancer has been destroyed and it is now a poison that the body can clear out. Being able to clear out this poison is a part of it. The body can clear this poison out but it might generate some nausea in the process, or diarrhea or even vomiting. That’s not bad. The idea is that as the cancer is destroyed the body must clean out the poisons. As the cancer is destroyed the body can tolerate more and more drops. That’s the indicator, is the body being able to tolerate more and more drops? If you find that you finally can increase the drops without getting nauseous it is an indicator that the body is doing it's job.
In the case of cancer, you have got to work at it. You start out slowly but increase quickly. At first you might just take the drops twice a day, but as you find you can do it twice a day without nausea, then increase to three times a day, and then four, and even as much as five times a day.
What would indicate that you are not getting well is if the body got nauseous every time you take a dose no matter what amount of dose it is, and the body never seems to be able to increase the doses without nausea. If you can take say two drops at a time without nausea and you get nausea when you go to three drops, you may have to tolerate the nausea for a short time, but if the nausea always occurs when you take three drops, it shows that you are not gaining on the cancer. That can happen if the cancer is growing faster than the MMS is killing it. There is, however, always hope. One way would be instead of increasing the number of drops, increase the number of times that you take drops during the day. Read below. There are other items that can help. Never, however, in any case stop taking the MMS.
So if there is an indication that one is not improving, then I suggest the following direction. Purchase some Indian Herb from Kathleen in texas. It costs $60 a vial and that is plenty. Phone 806 647-1741 She has a thousand letters from people who have been helped. She and her father have been selling the Indian herb for over 60 years. When you get this herb use it with the MMS to get the best results.
The AMAS cancer test listed above gives anyone a fantastic advantage. One can do a test, use the MMS for several weeks or a month and then do a second test to see how much improvement has taken place or to see if any improvement has happened at all.
When I mention drops of MMS I always mean add 5 times that many drops of lemon, lime, or citric acid solution, wait three minutes and then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. Never use MMS without the addition of lemon, lime, or citric acid or in an emergency if you have no citric acids, use vinegar. Use only apple, grape, or pineapple juice without added vitamin C or ascorbic acid or see #6 below for overcoming the taste.
4. Advanced Stage IV Cancer
This is an intense program that often works on cancer at any stage, and has worked for Stage IV cancers. It is the best I know at this time for advanced cancers. I have used it quite a few times on people here in Africa and also for two years in Mexico.
Begin with taking one drop of MMS each hour for at least 10 hours a day. The drop, of course, must be activated with 5 drops of lemon juice or 10% citric acid. You wait 3 minutes and then add 1/3 glass of water or juice and drink that. Do this every hour for 10 hours straight each day.
However, one drop is not enough, that is just to get you started. Once you determine that you can tolerate that one drop, go to two drops each hour Two drops is activated with 10 drops of lemon or citric. The one juice you must not use is orange juice. And forego use of vitamin C while using this method.
You can increase up to 8 or even 10 drops of MMS1 each hour, however that is a lot, and most people will become nauseous and not tolerate that much until the cancer is completely gone. Place the activated mix in at least 3/4 glass of water - or more. That way you can not taste the MMS, or very little. Drink it.
Now the next step is a little hard for some people, but if you want a result it is needed. You must take MMS2 capsules at least 4 times a day at first and then increase to 6 or more times a day. Actually start slowly as with everything. MMS2 is hypochlorous acid, the same acid that the human immune system uses to kill things with. At the time of this writing, you can order it by sending an email to sales@Mineral-Solutions.net and he will ship 60 capsules per bottle to you.
The immune system simply cannot make enough of this chemical to kill a cancer, but you can furnish it with these capsules. It's the very same thing your immune system uses. This acid is generated by the chemical called calcium hypochlorite.
You could make your own capsules but scooping this chemical into a size zero gel capsule. Cap it and take a capsule 4 times a day with 2 hours separating each capsule, but go slow. This data is explained on my web site jimhumble.biz under the MMS2 menu item.
If you doubt my word about this acid being used by the immune system go to Google and search for "hypochlorous acid and the immune system." You will get dozens or hundreds of sites telling you about it being used by the immune system. However, I am the only one who suggests that you take it by mouth. I have been taking it for 4 years, and hundreds of people I have sent it to have been taking it as well.
Actually it is perfectly logical to take it; only people who sell drugs would want you to not take it, because it will cure you whereas the drugs will not.
OK, so now you have the two things that you must take to kill your cancer and this is how you must go about killing the cancer. You must saturate your body with MMS1 and MMS2 to the point of killing the cancer quickly, but not so quickly that it makes you sicker than you already are. Killing the cancer too quickly can kill you, so go slow. You must take as much as you can without getting sick (nausea).
It is a balancing act. Increase your doses until you notice nausea, or vomiting, or diarrhea, or all three. Then stop the intake of MMS1 and 2 until the nausea passes, and start again immediately, but reduce the dose of both MMS1 and 2. You should notice the cancer getting better (smaller or less pain) very soon, or maybe just not getting worse). However, do not remain taking a reduced dosage. After several hours taking a reduced dose that does not make you feel worse, then begin slowly increasing again. Soon you will get the hang of the balancing act.
The minute you feel that nausea is starting, or something else is feeling bad, reduce your dosage or at least do not increase. This goes for both MMS1 and 2. With MMS2 you can reduce the dosage by opening the capsule and dumping part of the powder out. Generally once you are taking a full capsule, you would increase the dose merely by increasing the frequency that you take a capsule. Don't take more than one capsule at one time.
The reason that you would get sick at all is that the MMS is killing cancer and other pathogens faster than your elimination system can clear the blood and make the debris exit. The killed cells dump poison into your system. So called "dirty blood" can cause headaches and nausea. Any other diseases that might be present in your body that are also being killed will be dumping poisons into your body and the body must carrying those poisons off.
Everyone differs in the efficiency of their elimination systems, and in the heavy toxic load they have been carrying that may have caused the cancer. Therefore no one can state that nausea will occur on day two or day ten. When overloaded with debris in the blood, you must slow down the doses of both MMS1 and MMS2, allowing the blood to clear. Gradually this nausea-barrier will improve.
Keep in mind that both MMS1 and MMS2 are chemicals that the human immune system has been using for hundreds of thousands of years. That isn't something I have thought up. There are thousands of research papers that explain that and it has been known data for more than 50 years if not longer than that.
It's probably pretty hard to understand why medical people haven't been using those two chemicals to enhance the immune system for at least 50 years, but they never have. Amazing. The name of the chemical is calcium hypochlorite. Don't use any other chemical. Of course it would be nice if we had pharmaceutical grade chemicals to put in our gel capsules, but we have swimming pool grade chemicals and the manufacturers of these chemicals must maintain a fairly pure chemical or they would be poisoning swimmers.
The fact is, I have checked the quality of swimming pool chemicals and there is no poisonous chemicals used and the trace chemicals are all at a limit below what is suggested that your system can tolerate from the amount that you will be ingesting in my protocol.
So read through this protocol about 10 times, go to my web site jimhumble.biz and get the data to make the MMS2 capsules if you are not already proficient in this sort of thing. Do it for yourself or someone else.
In my opinion and from the people I have already seen recover or at least get a lot better, you have a better than 90% chance of recovery if you have a stage IV cancer. If you go the medical route, according to The American Cancer Society your have less than a 3% chance of recovery.
If melanoma or skin cancer is involved, please read the pages regarding Skin Care
If any of 23,000 skin diseases are involved, refer to the section regarding MMS tub baths. Note the pictures and list of skin diseases -
Jim humble
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http://www.mmsanswers.com/
Freedive
03-09-2010, 11:40 PM
Be careful MMS is very hard on the kidneys!
I find for infections colloidal silver works much better.
Say you want info on cancer? Here ya go :winksmiley02:
thankyou Grissom, that is very interesting, I'll also have a good look at the skin care section
...mine looked like the beginning of a basal melanoma (I have some experience on that...), and it seems to be going away!
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shybastid
03-10-2010, 01:08 AM
Thank you Grissom..Well done.
So..It's $165.00dollars for the test. The kit is free. Well....do I have to pay for the free kit before I pay for the test? Or do they send the kit..and if I send it in, I include 165bucks? I'll go read inside the website myself.
Thanks for the info..
My problem is my Doctor does'nt want to hear about ANY nonconfirmed in New England Journal of Medicine alternative solutions or "holistic" or whatever alternative remedies for any ailements I may present for opinion. He/She won't even let me talk about it. And part of what I do is IN the industry.
I really don't want to take a Valium to"chill" under perscribed medicine.
Or take enapraril for high blood pressure.
Gets frustrating when I try to even try and talk to the Doc.
I'm going to go to Burning Man this summer for the first time.
Maybe someone there can offer suggestions.:lol3:
yiolas
03-10-2010, 04:55 PM
[QUOTE=Grissom;252755]Be careful MMS is very hard on the kidneys!
I find for infections colloidal silver works much better.
Hi Grissom, Thanks for your invaluable information. You're right about MMS being hard on the Kidneys. This is my second trial run on MMS and as soon as I increase my dose to 5 drops 3 x a day, I begin to get a pain in my kidney which does not go away until I stop MMS completely. Why do you think this is and how can I overcome this obstacle ? I would like to continue with the MMS because I have found great relief with the arthritis in my hands.
Why do you think this is and how can I overcome this obstacle ? I would like to continue with the MMS because I have found great relief with the arthritis in my hands.
Increase your water intake.
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