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Peer
10-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Haven't seen topics on this subject or can't find them.

http://mmsmiracle.com/about/

http://www.miracle-mineral-supplement.com/instructions_miracle_mineral_supplement.html

I tried it, used it and it really works miracles at almost no costs.
Can be used as a desinfectant as well.
Read the site because that explains it completely so I won't have to type it here.

To give first aid in shock: Bach flower remedy: Rescue Remedy.
I've seen people in total shock become completely consious in seconds.
It works on animals and plants as well.

These two things should always be in your first-aid-kit.
MMS for anything infectuous and all internal, bacterial and viral problems and Bach Rescue for emotional problems.

If I would get the Avian flu I would not take Tamiflu and make Rumsfeld rich but MMS.

PS: This may sound all chemical but it is less chemical than most medicines of which some of them I wouldn't even want to get on my bathroom tiles.

ashton3625
10-17-2008, 10:58 PM
There is a company out there called symmetry... there product is called Genesis. I think everyone should take a look at it...

www.symmetrydirect.com/

Myplanet2
10-18-2008, 12:12 AM
I've done a run of MMS. Pretty amazing stuff, to say the least.

It's now banned in Canada. Canadian suppliers have received cease and desist orders from health Canada.

paul1972
10-18-2008, 01:46 PM
I started a few days ago, and already I see great results.
My bronchitis is clearing up, the fungus on my feet is disappearing.

Great stuff, everybody should check this stuff out!

ONE Love

kungfugrip
10-18-2008, 02:18 PM
How does MMS work in the body?

Once it is introduced into the bloodstream, chlorine dioxide performs a highly energetic acceptance of four electrons when it comes across any cell that is below a pH value of 7. This means that diseased cells are essentially vaporized (i.e., “oxidized”) while healthy cells are unaffected.

Here is how it happens.

Red blood cells that are normal carriers of oxygen throughout the body do not differentiate between chlorine dioxide and oxygen. Therefore, after ingesting the MMS/chlorine dioxide-rich solution, red blood cells pick up chlorine dioxide ions that are deposited on the stomach wall where it normally gathers nutrients of various kinds before journeying through the body.

Then, when the red blood cells armed with chlorine dioxide encounter parasites, fungi, or diseased cells that all have low pH and a positive ionic charge, the “aliens” are destroyed along with the chlorine dioxide ion. If no such encounters occur, the chlorine dioxide will be carried to a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidizes poisons and other harmful agents.

If the chlorine dioxide doesn’t hit anything that can set it off, it will deteriorate, and thus lose an electron or two. This may allow it to combine with a very important substance that the immune system uses to make hypochlorous acid. This compound kills pathogens, killer cells, and even cancerous cells. Hypochlorous acid is so important, its diminished presence in the body is described medically by the term myeloperoxidase deficiency.

Many people are afflicted by this condition. The immune system needs a great deal more hypochlorous acid when disease is present. Facilitated by the MMS solution, chlorine dioxide delivers it in spades, as does magnesium chloride, but that’s another part of the health discussion.

The most salient point to know, is that chlorine dioxide has 100 times more energy to do what oxygen normally does, and yet, will not harm healthy cells.

By the way, if you are totally healthy, and have nothing in your body that is at an acidic level below 7, there are no ill-effects from taking chlorine dioxide. However, your stores of hypochlorous acid will be increased.

MMS works best to destroy pathogens that may be present in the body, when 2 or 3 mg of free chlorine dioxide are in the solution at the time it is swallowed. However, the body is supplied with chlorine dioxide in a “timed release” manner lasting about 12 hours. Be aware, that before you feel better, it is likely you will feel ill.

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article found at
http://www.curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2968&q=690

Peer
10-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Thanks a lot KG for typing this all out. I was too lazy.

Another thing:
I ordered 1 litre of the stuff from a chemical factory.
The difference was that it was 25% instead of 28%.(Probably has to do with the gram/ounce difference)
I have not noticed any difference in results so if you can't order it anymore from your local pharmacist go to your local chemist and get yourself a good supply. (One litre will do for a lifetime for you and your family).
Don't tell them you are going to ingest it but you can tell them you are going to clean your swimming pool.
Better do it quick because it may be forbidden in the future as it is in Canada now.

Peer
10-18-2008, 02:51 PM
There is a company out there called symmetry... there product is called Genesis. I think everyone should take a look at it...

www.symmetrydirect.com/ (http://www.symmetrydirect.com/)
That is very amazing stuff too but as with many things: I prefer the raw stuff..:drinks_wine::mfr_lol:

371
10-18-2008, 03:56 PM
I generally make it a rule to automatically dismiss any product with "Miracle" in it's name........ but I'll give it a look.

Peer
10-18-2008, 04:03 PM
That's the problem with all generalisations....:mfr_lol:

Swanny
10-18-2008, 04:12 PM
Thanks a lot KG for typing this all out. I was too lazy.

Another thing:
I ordered 1 litre of the stuff from a chemical factory.
The difference was that it was 25% instead of 28%.(Probably has to do with the gram/ounce difference)
I have not noticed any difference in results so if you can't order it anymore from your local pharmacist go to your local chemist and get yourself a good supply. (One litre will do for a lifetime for you and your family).
Don't tell them you are going to ingest it but you can tell them you are going to clean your swimming pool.
Better do it quick because it may be forbidden in the future as it is in Canada now.

Please can you tell me what I would ask the chemist for???

Gnosis5
10-18-2008, 04:18 PM
There are a lot of drug companies up here in Canada. Fortunately I still have some on my shelf, but that stuff tastes really awful!!


I've done a run of MMS. Pretty amazing stuff, to say the least.

It's now banned in Canada. Canadian suppliers have received cease and desist orders from health Canada.

Peer
10-18-2008, 04:23 PM
Please can you tell me what I would ask the chemist for???

Sodiumchlorite /NaClO2 28%

Peer
10-18-2008, 04:30 PM
There are a lot of drug companies up here in Canada. Fortunately I still have some on my shelf, but that stuff tastes really awful!!

Yes the taste is awfull but you can add some applejuice or milk, drinking yoghurt or other juice except orange juice but it should NOT contain vitamin C (therefor no orange) .
You can also add coca cola. Ok, laugh:lmfao:.
But be sure to use just enough to camouflage the darn taste.

Scooby
10-18-2008, 10:16 PM
MMS is the Shizzle!! [I] have been using it for two years. Not daily mind you but twice I have used it for a couple weeks at a time on a daily basis till I got up to around ten drops per dose. You get used to but must gradually work the dose up cause it will definately make you sick. It can clean a digestive track of all the nasty ****(pun intended) err or bacteria and such that build up over years and makes your body work overtime just to fight what you have hiding there down. After each course my energy level went thru the roof and everytime I start to feel sick, like last night I take a 3 drop dose and wake up the next morning great. I was feeling something starting in my lungs last night and was getting a sore throat so I took some and woke up feeling spiffy as usual. Thats the reason I searched here for it because I was reminded of it and wanted to share but found this thread so here I am. Everyone should have a couple bottles hid away in their cool hidey place for pandemics and desease. The stuff is a literal Miracle as far as I am concerned and at 20 bucks a bottle its cheap insurance. Also having a good supply of quality allicin capsules and strong vitamin c tabs is also recommended by, well , just me. LOL :mfr_lol::thumb_yello: :tongue2:

Swanny
10-19-2008, 02:43 AM
Thx Peer :original:

Swamisalami
10-19-2008, 02:15 PM
For all the Dutch peoples who want to make MMS them selves, check this hyves site.

http://miraclemineral.hyves.nl/forum/1863444/L7_j/Zelf_MMS_Bereiden/

paul1972
10-19-2008, 02:52 PM
let's all get this stuff, it could be a life saver

ONE Love

Peer
10-19-2008, 03:25 PM
Swami, sorry to say but it's the wrong site with the wrong explanation.
This gentleman keeps in mind that you can not get sodiumchlorite more concentrated than 80%.
So he started discussing with himself: 80% of 28 = 22,4
Completely unneccesary: A concentration of 28% has proven to be the best and I myself found out that 25% also works well but then diluting it till 22,4% is absolutely unneccesary.
The guy is obviously not familiar with dilutions and percentages.
It even might work but it's the wrong argumentation.
And furthermore: It's in Dutch!
For the dutch people you find the best info on:

http://www.miraclemineralsupplement.nl/index.php?action=mms

Swamisalami
10-19-2008, 04:04 PM
Swami, sorry to say but it's the wrong site with the wrong explanation.
This gentleman keeps in mind that you can not get sodiumchlorite more concentrated than 80%.
So he started discussing with himself: 80% of 28 = 22,4
Completely unneccesary: A concentration of 28% has proven to be the best and I myself found out that 25% also works well but then diluting it till 22,4% is absolutely unneccesary.
The guy is obviously not familiar with dilutions and percentages.
It even might work but it's the wrong argumentation.
And furthermore: It's in Dutch!
For the dutch people you find the best info on:

http://www.miraclemineralsupplement.nl/index.php?action=mms

Still in the dualistic mode Peer?? Wright-Wrong; Good-Bad; Black-White; etc.

Wrong and wright are the the same energyforce (yin-yang) in a 3D setting, it's all about intention, study Emoto's Message of Water.

It's information and that IS.

At least there's a place you can find the goodies to make MMS instead of paying way to much. The Swami doesn't like paying to much for cheap thrills.

TruthWillSetUFree
10-19-2008, 04:17 PM
I have been taking MMS since August. I am up to 10 drops twice a day.

I feel great and notice I am more 'regular' which is huge for me! LOL

I am going to go to 15 drops twice a day as the recommended detox suggests then after a week I will be on a maintenance dose of 6 drops a day.

After hearing it was taken off the market in Canada, I am going to get some more for the shelf.

My husband had some nasty diarrhea but he was really pushing his dose up quickly, which I do not recommend. I feel it is better to detox slowly especially if you tend to eat alot of GMO foods, which he does. I think it was his body's way of getting all that out of his system before it turns into disease.
He is open to trying it again, this time I think I will moderate it for him so he doesn't end up doing the same thing.

Anyway, it is a good product, nice to take something that actually lives up to it's miracle claims for once.

Peace, love and light to all.

lilac
10-20-2008, 03:57 AM
my daughter and I got onto this for 2-3 months last winter. It cleared up her acne beautifully. I somehow got out of the habit. thanks for the reminder, I will take it up again. not in CAnada you say? Pity. Here's some info to help with the taste: 7. Overcoming the taste of MMS.

Follow one of the suggestions below:

Method 1: Mix your dose of MMS in any strength that you happen to be using at the time and use one of the juices listed below. You should be using 1/3 to 1/2 glass of juice. In addition to that, you should add two to three teaspoons of citric acid solution to the juice before adding to the MMS. If you find that these juices are a little strong for your stomach, just be sure to drink a glass of water or even two glasses of water immediately following the ingestion of the MMS and juice. See the paragraph below for the exact sequence.

So let me cover that one more time so you have the exact sequence. Mix your MMS with 5X lime, lemon, or citric acid as you normally would. Wait the 3 minutes as you normally would. Now before you add the juice to the MMS glass add two or three teaspoons of 10% citric acid solution to the juice and then ad it to the MMS. Drink that and then if your stomach is a little sensitive be sure to drink one or two glasses of water.

ABOUT BUYING THE JUICES: You can find Black Cherry concentrate by RW Knudsen that does not have added vitamin C. Pomegranate juice can often be found in health food stores, or frozen concentrates area in supermarkets or in very large supermarkets in the juice area. Cranberry juice is everywhere, except it is hard to find that does not have vitamin C added, but it is available. Buy it in the concentrate form if necessary. The addition of the citric acid eliminates the revulsion that many people develop to the MMS drink. Please try it as you will be needing it if you are one of those who cannot stand the taste. Good luck.

Ampgod
10-20-2008, 08:57 AM
I started MMS tonight. (October 19th)
So far I have not died. ;)
I'm going after a common nasty virus I have had for many years.
If successful I will share my story.
So for now i'll hope for the best and follow the protocol.


Peace,
Ampgod

Bought Mine here.
http://mmsmiracle.com/mjmj275

henners
10-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Hey guys, regarding this MMS i found this web site that explains it fairly well. Hope this hasn't been posted before.
http://www.miraclems.com/
:thumb_yello:

sunny D
10-20-2008, 11:00 AM
Besides Bach, royal gelly is a good one to use. It is used for a lot of things and it is a very pure product. It contains a lot of minerals and vitamines and also enzymes...........namaste...

pineal-pilot-in merkabah
10-20-2008, 11:46 AM
can this stuff be obtained in the uk..? is this the stuff henry deacon spoke of?

Ampgod
10-20-2008, 06:08 PM
can this stuff be obtained in the uk..? is this the stuff henry deacon spoke of?


Ships worldwide
http://mmsmiracle.com/mjmj275

Seven
10-20-2008, 06:53 PM
I am using MMS for a while now, whith excellent results ... At first I strarted accordingly to the Protocol as discribed on Jim Humble's site ...
I don't take the maintenance dose ... Instead I take a few drops whenever I feel somethings comming down ... or when there is a "flu wave" *Seven's still scratching the back of her head, wondering if that's even an english word at my work (nursing home) ... in that case I take a few drops each copple day's ... and mostly I am one of the few workers that doesn't get sick ...
Sinds I use MMS i've had the flu only once, normally that would be more often in that time period ...
I have less head ache's ... and my toe nail was cured from a funges I had for years, by applying the solution only once ...

I've just recieved the 1 litre bottle I ordered last week :biggrin2:
I would advise to drink it with Pineapple Juice ... in my oppinion it masks the taste best

Peer
10-20-2008, 07:20 PM
Hi Ampgod and Henners:

These are exactly the sites to visit.
Thanks for looking.

Swamisalami
10-20-2008, 07:34 PM
I did't hear Henry Deacon speak of MMS, he spoke of vitamine D3 in high doses. D3 is what your body makes under the influence of sunlight. MMS is made from a chemical Sodiumchlorite, NaClo 28% is the best according to some peoples. Follow the links in thiis thread and you can learn a lot about it. There are other good alternative medicines. Search the threads for Collodial Silver. Also easy and cheap to make at home.

Swanny
10-20-2008, 09:39 PM
I've ordered some :original:

Ampgod
10-21-2008, 01:33 AM
(Incase all the beginners want to know the play-by-play)

First off...
I am 200 pounds.
36 Years of age. Male.
I eat very very Healthy & exercise a lot.
I have stopped my colloidal silver usage for this MMS test period.
I understand if you have less toxins in you, and are very healthy, you can take more drops without side effects

I am doing 2 doses per day. Morning and night.

Dose one was 1 drop
Dose two was 2 drops
Dose three was 3 drops
Dose four was 4 drops (no side effects yet)

***UPDATED*** (October 22)
I couldn't resist trying to go up to 3 times a day. So I did. I was fine.
(Morning 6 drops, Afternoon 6 drops, late night before bed 7 drops.)
I eat between these times. also taking care to NOT eat Vitamin C.
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Above was last night.
Now this morning I took a 7 Drop and got ill with bad upset stomach, bad diarrhea and puked my breakfast up. :) hahahaha
After that, I felt like I was recovering quickly.
So ... jumping to 3 doses too soon is a bad idea.
"Myplanet2" warned us of this and was correct.
I just wanted to test the theory. :)

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***UPDATED*** (October 26)
Ok. After my episode I returned to 6 drops and went back to 2 doses a day.
After a day of that, without issues, I added a drop. I am now at 7 drops twice a day. No problems.
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***UPDATED*** (October 28)
I really recommend eating meal (without Vitamin C) first and waiting about 30 minutes before taking the MMS Dose. I am currently at 8 drops. No Problems at all.
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***UPDATED*** (October 29)
9 drops twice a day.

***FURTHER UPDATES WILL BE ADDED AS NORMAL POSTS.***

* (I will continue upward until I feel slightly ill to find my tolerance)
* (if you take with just distilled water when you get to 7 drops it really starts to taste like ****. I'm switching to a non-vitamin C juice)

Note: I decided I would eat a half of a piece of wheat bread before drinking it
so my stomach wouldn't be empty. Just incase. So far so good.

Gnosis5
10-21-2008, 01:38 AM
There is also an MMS Yahoo Group where they give the full details and answer all questions at least once.

peaceandlove
10-21-2008, 01:39 AM
;)Blessings All,

MMS has truly been a miracle in my life and to my pocketbook.
(see website at bottom of page)

I have used nano-particle silver and prefer to purchase that direct from the manufacturer in order to insure myself that I am consuming the accurate amount of ppm (parts per million). Nano-particle silver is accepted into the bloodstream more readily than non nano-particle or homemade colloidal silver, which is also subject to uneven doses as the suspension is not controlled. It is also less likely to destroy friendly bacteria.

The cost of MMS is much less than silver, and therefore more attractive to me.

Over the last two months I have noticed detoxifying effects including some pains arising, tiredness, bowel disturbances, parasites and unusual odors as heavy metals, chemicals and other undesirable additives leave the body.

To me, this is the most economical way to detoxify. If you take it easy and increase the dosage slowly, you will be more comfortable as you purify your body.

:dog: My elderly dog is also enjoying the benefits of MMS. More vim and vigor. It quickly relieved her of a urinary track infection which was causing her to have a few accidents. Start slow with dogs, 3 drops of MMS to 15 drops of citric acid. She loves it and drinks it readily. I did try to bump it up and when she drank it she let me know it was too much. (Gave me the look :annoyed_h4h:...so I backed down.)

Remember to check your dog food ingredients label for added vitamin C. Serve the MMS solution away from food if you find Vitamin C. It will negate the effects.

I did start to have an aversion to the taste, but I now use 1/2 water and 1/2 apple juice. You can purchase a gallon of unfiltered apple juice at most health food stores for about $5.99 (be mindful to keep the cover on the apple juice loose while storing in the refrigerator). Covers up the taste well. Also eating an apple shortly after ingesting the solution is helpful.

One bottle will probably last you a year. Storing in a dark place is recommended. In its dark bottle MMS will remain potent for at least two years if kept in the refrigerator. Less if not refrigerated.

FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.

Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide:

For your safety and consideration, their MMS is manufactured and bottled by a GMP Certified Nutraceutical company with tamper proof induction seals and shrink wrapped neck bands.

peaceandlove
10-21-2008, 04:42 AM
;)Here is some quick reference material on MMS that may have not been covered in this Thread.

source: http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/

Click on above link for more answers to your questions. Many responses starting at the end of the article from September 13, 2007 - October 18, 2008


What is the Normal MMS Protocol?

When following the instructions below, keep this paragraph in mind. Always activate the MMS drops with one of the food acids, either lemon juice drops, or lime juice drops, or citric acid solution drops (to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.) (Drip spout bottles provided with activator 'citric acid' when ordered from website below.) Always use 5 drops of one of these food acids to each one drop of MMS, mix (swirl) in an empty dry glass and wait at least 3 minutes, then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. (You can expand the 3 minutes out to 10 minutes, and after adding the juice or water you can wait up to an hour before drinking.)

Step 1.All protocol for taking MMS in the Americas starts with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with 1 drop. Activate the drops as given above.* (In some cases a person may have to go to 1/2 drop which can be achieved by mixing 1 drop MMS with 5 drops Citric Acid and then after activated pour off half of it.)

Step 2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous. *

Note: If you notice diarrhea, or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last. It is not real diarrhea as the body is just cleaning out, and it is not caused by bacteria or virus. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.

Step 3. Continue to follow the procedure given in Step 2 above. Until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.*

Note: Once you have completed Step 3 above most of the viral, bacteria, mold, and yeast load will be gone from your body. Your body will be clean. You no longer have to worry about feeding the microorganism load. You can base you diet on nutrition, rather than not feeding the load.

The diabetes will be gone, thus you no longer need to worry about sugar. You won't have to worry about the pancreas over reacting thus giving you a shock of insulin. Instead it will give you just enough insulin to knock the blood sugar lever to the right level (You won't feel sleepy after eating a candy bar).

Your body will then be able to easily adsorb vitamins and minerals and many other nutrients it might have been missing up to this time. You should feel better as time goes by. Do not quit taking the MMS. The Health solution Will Not Be Televised! Start modestly with as little as 1 drop of MMS on your first day, and then increase the number on each following day, up to the maximum of 15. ONLY THE MOST ACUTE TOXIC OVERLOAD SITUATIONS WILL WARRANT THIS AMOUNT OF APPLICATION.

Your body WILL tell you when you've reached the optimum dosage for you. Clearing will not be comfortable, but it need not be intolerable. You may feel like you've been through a battle, and in a sense, you have. It's a battle for domain over your health, and hence, your life. Before you can be healthy again, you need to destroy toxins, pathogens, and parasites. In order to do so, they have to be uprooted and released from their strongholds in your body tissue. You will feel the effects, but is a good thing. You will also feel health, again. The sick feeling will be TEMPORARY, a small price to pay for the longer term possibility of lasting restored health, no matter what stage of life you happen to be currently experiencing.

When the clearing is done, you won't need to take the maximum dosages. You can go on a maintenance application (six (6) drops of MMS) to keep your insides pathogen free and immune system strong.

A few more words about fruit juices. They can be substituted for water as long as they are freshly made. Do not buy them off the shelf and use them, and DO NOT use orange juice. Orange juice prevents the production of chlorine dioxide, as well as anything that has vitamin C added as a preservative.

For your safety and consideration, their MMS is manufactured and bottled by a GMP Certified Nutraceutical company with tamper proof induction seals and shrink wrapped neck bands.

Ships worldwide. The shipping costs are very minimal on this site.

http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

newfc12
10-21-2008, 07:37 AM
All sounds very promising but is MMS completely safe?

http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/mms-the-flame-post/

Peer
10-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Yes.

Ampgod
10-21-2008, 07:49 PM
All sounds very promising but is MMS completely safe?

http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/mms-the-flame-post/

I am taking it as we speak.
I can already tell how it is helping me regarding my virus.
I don't know if it will cure me for good, but I intend to find out.

SeeCastaneda
10-21-2008, 08:51 PM
Does anyone out there know where you can purchase a couple of pounds of Sodium Chlorite for a resonable price so that you can make your own MMS?

I am in Colorado, USA.

Thanks

SeeCastaneda

Swanny
10-21-2008, 09:10 PM
My friend has diabetes, do you really think this will cure him??

Peer
10-21-2008, 09:56 PM
It has done it before.
Why not give it a try?
He will only feel better afterwards.

Swanny
10-21-2008, 09:58 PM
Sorry a mate gave me a link to the wrong stuff

sprocket
10-21-2008, 10:22 PM
I posted the below earlier in another thread as I wasn't aware that a MMS-specific one existed.

Gotta say, I was taking the MMS for about 2 weeks, (6 drops maintainence dose) and in perfect health, but it didn't prevent me being struck down by some flu strain for almost 5 days! Also, my brother succumed to the same bug but recovered far quicker than I did, even though he wasn't taking the MMS...

One of the main reasons I purchased the product was as a possible cure for a small wart on a finger. Even though I applied the stuff direct to the affected area as suggested, all I ended up with was an inflamed nail cuticle, the wart taking it in its stride!

So, no 'miracles' apparent, at least to this former user...

Myplanet2
10-21-2008, 10:46 PM
(Incase all the beginners want to know the play-by-play)

First off...
I am 200 pounds.
36 Years of age. Male.
I eat very very Healthy & exercise a lot.
I have stopped my colloidal silver usage for this MMS test period.
I understand if you have less toxins in you, and are very healthy, you can take more drops without side effects

I am doing 2 doses per day. Morning and night.

Dose one was 1 drop
Dose two was 2 drops
Dose three was 3 drops
Dose four was 4 drops (no side effects yet)

***UPDATED*** (October 21)
I am now starting 3 doses per day at 5 drops. Morning, afternoon and night.

* (I will continue upward until I feel slightly ill to find my tolerance)

Note: I decided I would eat a half of a piece of wheat bread before drinking it
so my stomach wouldn't be empty. Just incase. So far so good.


That's a pretty aggressive schedule. My wife and I did similar when we started on it. I did ok, but she hit a ceiling one day and got violently sick to the stomach. Had to back it way off.

I believe the protocol recommends working up to 15 drops twice a day and then adding a 3rd dose in the middle.

Ampgod
10-21-2008, 11:04 PM
My logic is this...
I feel if I can handle 5 drops no problem then why would I not be able to handle it 6 hours later and another 6 or more hours after that?

I have a very strict diet so maybe that will help. ???
I guess I'll try and see what happens.

I am eating good foods 3 hours after each dose.

Ampgod
10-21-2008, 11:10 PM
I posted the below earlier in another thread as I wasn't aware that a MMS-specific one existed.

How much do you weigh?
Are you fit and eating strict whole food diet?
Did you avoid vitamin C?
Do you take medications?
ETC.

Details please.

Thx,
Ampgod

Myplanet2
10-21-2008, 11:43 PM
My logic is this...
I feel if I can handle 5 drops no problem then why would I not be able to handle it 6 hours later and another 6 or more hours after that?

I have a very strict diet so maybe that will help. ???
I guess I'll try and see what happens.

I am eating good foods 3 hours after each dose.

You probably can. I can. But the thing is that MMS releases gases for up to 12 hours. Any way you cut it, there is bound to be a 4 hour overlap at 3 times a day. morning dose is still releasing gases for 4 more hours when you take the mid day dose, and that's still releasing gases beyond the night time dose.

I don't think it can hurt you, but the reaction can be very unpleasant.

I'd just recommend not upping the dose at every intake. Maybe once a day. You'll get there soon enough.

But do keep us posted on how it's going.

peaceandlove
10-22-2008, 03:01 AM
Sprocket Says:

Gotta say, I was taking the MMS for about 2 weeks, (6 drops maintainence dose) and in perfect health, but it didn't prevent me being struck down by some flu strain for almost 5 days! Also, my brother succumed to the same bug but recovered far quicker than I did, even though he wasn't taking the MMS...

One of the main reasons I purchased the product was as a possible cure for a small wart on a finger. Even though I applied the stuff direct to the affected area as suggested, all I ended up with was an inflamed nail cuticle, the wart taking it in its stride!

So, no 'miracles' apparent, at least to this former user...

;) Blessings to You. Please refer to the protocol suggested in one of my above posts.

Please note that warts are most likely a manifestation of an inner condition.
Everything I've read suggests healing begins from the inside out.

Step 3. Continue to follow the procedure given in Step 2 above, until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.*

Note: Once you have completed Step 3 above most of the viral, bacteria, mold, and yeast load will be gone from your body. Your body will be clean. You no longer have to worry about feeding the microorganism load. You can base you diet on nutrition, rather than not feeding the load.

Even people who feel as if they are in perfect health and are not exhibiting any symptoms of 'dis-ease' are not necessarily immune to infection or infiltration by virus, bacteria, mold & yeast load as it is present even in the air we breath. (You did mention you were struck down by flu symptoms.) Chemtrails contain many strange things. Also, please be aware that detox reactions often mimic flu symptoms. Assuming you still have the product you might want to try the above protocol and you may have better results.

It is also recommended to take the MMS on an 'empty' stomach, (or at least it will be more effective not taken with food). Even I don't 'chug' it all down immediately. Sometimes I take up to 30 minutes to drink it all. It will remain active for an hour after mixing with water or juice or a mixture thereof. Always wait 3 minutes after mixing the MMS Solution and Activator before adding the water or juice. (Once again, no orange juice or juices with added vitamin C which will negate the effects.)

I was able to go up to 13 drops twice a day over a 7 day period and then I started getting nauseated, so I stopped for a while because the more drops I was up to the less pleasant it tasted and I didn't have the juice then. In about 5 days I started again at 9 drops and haven't been able to get above 11 drops twice a day without nausea. So I am still at 11 drops and am still enjoying the detoxifying effects.

I've read of some people having to stay at 1 drop twice a day for weeks before being able to increase. Everyone's diet is different and we are not only affected by our current health but our emotional state as well.

Please check out this website again for many questions and responses regarding the use of MMS: http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/20...ful-chemistry/

One bottle will probably last you a year. Storing in a dark place is recommended. In its dark bottle MMS will remain potent for at least two years if kept in the refrigerator. Less if not refrigerated.

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See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols.

sprocket
10-22-2008, 01:32 PM
How much do you weigh?
Are you fit and eating strict whole food diet?
Did you avoid vitamin C?
Do you take medications?
ETC.

Details please.

Thx,
Ampgod

Hi. I'm 12st, haven't gone near what would be termed "junk food" for years and include lots of fruit in my diet, so I consider that I eat healthily. I ensured that my 'mixer' included no vitamin C, using pure grape-juice which specifically states that there is nothing else added. Also, I tend to believe that the vast majority of all 'conventional' medicines exist purely for the enrichment of the pharmcutical companies and have no real benefit, so I do not even use asprin.

sprocket
10-22-2008, 01:47 PM
@peaceandlove - thanks, I appreciate your comprehensive post. Yes, I still have the product and although I only went as high as 6 drops/day, I never suffered nausea etc. so no issues there. As I mentioned, it suggests in the documentation applying MMS directly to warts, which I did over the course of several days only to end up with a badly inflamed nail cuticle - very painful, so no relief there, and my only real "bone of contention". Interesting to hear that the "detox" process can exibit symptoms of illness. I am now also wondering if taking the maintainence dose of 6 drops daily, instead of twice weekly as you suggest, could have been a contributing factor, particularily as I had no real illness (that I was aware of) to begin with?

EDIT: Having just re-read this, I see that this really only applies to children, so unlikely...

peaceandlove
10-23-2008, 03:34 AM
@peaceandlove - thanks, I appreciate your comprehensive post. Yes, I still have the product and although I only went as high as 6 drops/day, I never suffered nausea etc. so no issues there.

;) Sprocket,

Congratulations on your excellent diet. That is one our best defenses to maintaining a healthy lifestyle.

Have you decided to increase the drops beyond 6?

For example: Morning 6 drops of MMS to 30 drops of activator (citric acid)
Evening 7 drops of MMS to 35 drops of activator (citric acid)
Following day: Morning 8 drops of MMS to 40 drops of activator (citric acid)
Evening 9 drops of MMS to 45 drops of activator (citric acid)

Continue increasing daily until you reach 15 drops twice and day for two weeks without nausea. Then increase to 15 drops 3 times a day for a week. (This last step, 3 times a day, may not be necessary for people under 150 pounds.)

Anytime you feel nausea, reduce drops again for a while and try again another day to increase. I think you might have read the rest of Step 3. Just want to make sure the instructions were clear.


As a note: Remember you need at least as much citric acid as MMS. Instead of counting out drops of citric acid you can use this ratio:

1 - 6 drops of MMS to 1/4 teaspoon citric acid solution
7 - 15 drops of MMS to 1/2 teaspoon citric acid solution

When counting drops, you may want to use identical dispensers, as drops can vary in size depending on the dropper. This will insure you are using enough citric acid to activate the MMS.

After adding the two products in a clean dry glass, swirl the glass and wait a minimum of 3 minutes before adding water or juice or 50/50 mix.


MMS oxygenates and alkalizes the body and has not been found to destroy the friendly bacteria. It is very difficult for diseases to exist in a well oxygenated and pH balanced environment.

If you reach a plateau, don't be discouraged, it's much more comfortable to detox slowly unless you have an emergency health situation.

It may take some people months to cleanse the body of toxins. Consistent use of course is required. Measure how you feel, if you are feeling too tired, cut back and build up slowly. Allow yourself to rest when needed.

All detoxing programs generally require the body to work overtime and discomfort will arise.


REMEMBER: Whether detoxing or not, water is the 'elixir' of life. The most recent information indicates the ratio for water consumption is 1/2 ounce per 1 pound of body weight. If you weigh 100 pounds, the suggested amount of water to consume is 50 ounces per day.

If you are detoxing it is IMPERATIVE to consume plenty of water in order to help dilute the toxins and flush them out of the body. You can enjoy less bodily pains if you keep yourself hydrated.

When the body is on toxic overload it will retain water in order to dilute the toxins. Many people will realize a weight loss as that water is excreted when the load lessens.


Last but not least, BLESS Your Water. You can create a healing frequency as simply as that.

This website, I saw posted on the forum contains Gregorian Chants for healing. They are very soothing. You could also expose your water to the sounds to imprint it with healing properties.

http://www.astrovera.com/philosophy/new-age/43-new-age/44-solfeggio-frequencies.html

Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Swanny
10-23-2008, 06:02 PM
Went into a chemist today and tried to buy some Sodiumchlorite /NaClO2 28%
The chemist said "Sorry we don't have that."
So I asked "Where can I buy some?"
He replied "I don't know as it has no medical use."

For a second I thought about telling him to have a look on the net, but thought better of it :lmao:

Peer
10-23-2008, 07:05 PM
Ships worldwide
http://mmsmiracle.com/mjmj275

Swanny
10-23-2008, 07:32 PM
Yea i already ordered some from there :) Just wanted to get some here if poss

peaceandlove
10-23-2008, 09:22 PM
;) A note about MMS.

Exposing MMS to sunlight will render it useless.

Store in a dark place. In its dark bottle MMS will remain potent for at least two years if kept in the refrigerator. Less if not refrigerated.

One bottle will probably last you a year.

For your safety and consideration, their MMS is manufactured and bottled by a GMP Certified Nutraceutical company with tamper proof induction seals and shrink wrapped neck bands.

FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.

Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide.

See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols.

Blufire77
10-23-2008, 09:28 PM
Anytime the word “miracle” is attached to anything my warning bells go off.

Also anything that you ingest that needs such intense careful dosing and that has such contraindications means there is high probability of harm.

Everything in balance and wisdom.

Ampgod
10-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Anytime the word “miracle” is attached to anything my warning bells go off.

Also anything that you ingest that needs such intense careful dosing and that has such contraindications means there is high probability of harm.

Everything in balance and wisdom.

Knowledge is power.
Study what Chlorine Dioxide Ion is in depth and how it effects the body.
Do not just reject it because you think it's risky.
Understand it.

Many did not believe the world was round either.
So you are not alone. :)

Peace,
Ampgod

Peer
10-23-2008, 10:36 PM
Anytime the word “miracle” is attached to anything my warning bells go off.

Also anything that you ingest that needs such intense careful dosing and that has such contraindications means there is high probability of harm.

Everything in balance and wisdom.

Hey blu, you're overdoing things.
It is far from intense carefull dosing.
You can take 3 drops of acid or 5 or 6, as long as it is enough to react.
One drop or two drops of MMS more or less? No problem.
And you have not seen 1 single contraindication posted anywhere.
There is no probability of harm.
Where and what have you been reading lately?
Not this thread anyway.

Blufire77
10-24-2008, 02:42 AM
Peer,

I'm a medicinal herbalist and I become very concerned when people feel that "natural" things are okay to take and won't hurt you. Arsenic and hemlock are natural but I certainly would not suggest someone take it. Before you get your bloomers in a bunch I am not saying MMS is in the same catagory as arsenic.

Yes I understand the benefits of MMS . . . . I just do not feel it is a miracle chemical.

The fact that MMS has to be taken by carefully measured drops and ramping up or down means one has to be very careful in using this chemical. When you have to take into consideration someones weight and diet is very telling. I also would be very concerned where the different people are finding this product and how it is being produced or manufactured.

I'm not sure about your comment about 2 or 3 drops of "acid" . Are you saying you would ingest something like Hydrochloric Acid and it would be fine if you only took 2 or 3 drops????? If so I rest my case.

You stated there are no contraindications or anywhere in the thread that states there has been harm or problem. Well I suggest you read this thread again . . . carefully.

Amgod was very clear saying several times that he has become ill . . . very ill using MMS.

Myplanet2 states clearly that his wife became "violently ill" after using this product.

The fact you have to avoid vitamin c or be careful with citric acid is a contraindication. You have to be careful and understand reactions with other drugs or medications with this type of chemical.

For you to state there is no "probability of harm" is extremely dangerous. This type of product does detoxify very quickly and too quickly for some people with delicate or weak constitutions. It acts very aggressively in some cases . . . . which can be good or problematic. Someone asked about viruses . . . . if there is a virus that has been dormant like herpes or Epstein barr or Lymes disease and many others and it is deep in the liver and you take something like MMS or a “heroic” type herb you can activate that virus by trying to get rid of it and it comes back ten fold. I know what I’m talking about.

I completely understand the benefits of natural herbs, tinctures, teas and minerals and have used them all my life (I’m 50). I would not be a herbalist if I didn’t. But I also understand fully the possibility of harm.

All I’m saying is I feel to tout something as a “miracle” on a site such as this where many read it and take it for granted that because it is on PA then it must be safe and true is not being responsible. Like Swanny who asked if it would cure his friend who has diabetes.

Yes Ampgod I agree that knowledge is power but it is what you do with that "power" that makes a massive difference.

Knowlege is useless and dangerous without wisdom.

I am not rejecting MMS no more that I would reject "poke root tincture" but I also understand both have to be used wisely.


Please use common sense and be responsible.

Take Care







Hey blu, you're overdoing things.
It is far from intense carefull dosing.
You can take 3 drops of acid or 5 or 6, as long as it is enough to react.
One drop or two drops of MMS more or less? No problem.
And you have not seen 1 single contraindication posted anywhere.
There is no probability of harm.
Where and what have you been reading lately?
Not this thread anyway.

Myplanet2
10-24-2008, 03:12 AM
Several of the MMS websites offer Jim Humbles Free book, explaining the theory and use of MMS. The details really need to be known before much in depth conversation makes sense.

For example, the "acid" used isn't hydrochloric. It's citric acid, or lemon juice. It's needed to turn the sodium Chlorite into the Chlorine Dioxide (stabilized oxygen). There is a correct proportion of sodium chlorite to acid to produce chlorine dioxide. taking vitamin C as in the case of mixing the solution with a fruit juice containing added vit C throws off the proper proportions.

So it's good to read up a bit before commenting or assuming anything based on discussion.

As far as I know, MMS has no side effects. Nausea, stomach upset, head ache, etc are expected effects which indicate the elimination of toxins or pathogens from the system.

sunny D
10-24-2008, 12:57 PM
Blufire 77 you are a wise!!! Why harm yourselves with miracles??? Namaste

Peer
10-24-2008, 01:12 PM
My dear Blufire,

you advise me to read the thread, while you obviously didn't.
I started this thread and why?

We were discussing about what to take when you have to do with what you can carry in a backpack and so I came up with MMS.

It is called MMS just because it worked miracles and I have seen it working miracles.
I am a therapist, I am 60 years of age and I tried it on myself first to know what it did, to know what tolerances it has, and then I asked my friends around me to help me find out what the benefits and eventual non- or contrabenefits are.

The real name is Sodiumchlorite 28% but that sounds so chemical
The same problem as with acetylsalicylic acid.
You wouldn't want to swollow that either but if you call it Aspirin there is no problem at all.

I think it's rather obvious you don't swollow hydrochloric acid (which I didn't mention but you).
I can't see why you brought this in exept for wanting to be right.
Well you are right if you say that you shouldn't try to stop an oncoming train with your two fists only but that also has nothing to do with this topic.

I was writing to people who had already read the thread (as you did not) and when I wrote "acid" I meant one of the acids, used to activate the Sodiumclorite or NaClO2.
I am sure those people knew what I was talking about and otherwise they could easily find the information in the forgoing posts which I didn't want to repeat time after time.

That Vitamin-C is a nono you see as something problematic, well it isn't.
MMS is an "oxidating" proces.
Is oxidates everything below ph7 which is the healthy balance for your body.
Using an anti-oxidant like Vitamin-C will stop the MMS from working so during the cleaning proces you don't take Vit-C.
That also has already been mentioned before so why ask again?
After you've done take as much Vit-C as you like although if you take too much you may get a Vit-C poisoning, you may even die of it like you will if you drink to much water.

I assume that the people reading here and experimenting here are all grown up mature people who are very conscious of what they are doing so jumping up and down with a red flag en telling everybody to be carefull I find disturbing:
I know exactly what I am doing and I don't need to be pampered.

I personally have experimented with MMS as much as I could and applied it to a lot of things with good, often astonishing results.

I would NEVER experiment that much with ANY regular medicin or any of the herbs you mentioned.

Yes, If you go too fast the cleaning-reaction can be violent but you're not ILL.
Stop taking it and the reaction stops within a few hours and you'll feel fine while if you were ill it would take much more time to recover.

Of course everybody reacts differently and that is why I say: Try it out, take some more, take some less.
As long as you keep feeling nauseous keep on pushing your body because it means you still are poisoned and you are still in the cleaning-process.
As long as you experience diarrhea: Same thing.
Go as far as your body lets you without discomfort.

No doctor needed.
Most likely there will be no doctor available :sleep_1:
I have reacted on you twice now which wouldn't have been neccesary if you had done what you advised me to do: "Read the thread" so this is my final reaction on you because I need my energy for other, more important things.

Jenny
10-24-2008, 01:12 PM
Hi Blufire,

being a herbalist myself and classical homeopath for 25 years, I have been looking everywhere to find a remedy that can eliminate toxic agens in a biological living creature.

MRSA is on the rise, antibiotics are prescribed as if it was a candy and microbs , virusses aso, are on the loose.

NaClO2 is a natural product and mixed with citric acid makes a safe remedy.

The " illness" that is spoken of is this----->

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/herxheimer.html

I took the MMS myself for 2 months up to 3 times 15 drops a day to experience the action myself.
Taking MMS needs to be guided by someone who can discern between illness and detox symptoms.

Fasting on water and tea is much more difficult to detox.


Jenny







Peer,

I'm a medicinal herbalist and I become very concerned when people feel that "natural" things are okay to take and won't hurt you. Arsenic and hemlock are natural but I certainly would not suggest someone take it. Before you get your bloomers in a bunch I am not saying MMS is in the same catagory as arsenic.

Ampgod
10-24-2008, 07:19 PM
Blufire 77 you are a wise!!! Why harm yourselves with miracles??? Namaste

"Blufire77"

Please don't attempt to discredit something you don't understand.
It is just confusing people.

"Blufire77" also said I said something that I did not.
Here is what he stated....
"Amgod was very clear saying several times that he has become ill . . . very ill using MMS."

Now the truth is this...
I got ill ONCE due to me testing the limits which I knew might produce adverse effects.
However, I am one to push the envelope and see for myself the truth about the limits.
Which I did. I got ill as expected (ONCE) and was back to normal in hours.
I moved back to 6 drops and am fine now.

*Why not just wait and see how things pan out with this stuff instead of bashing it constantly?
*You don't have to test it. Let people like Peer and others including myself do it for you.
*No need for bashing it. :)

There is a good possibility you harm yourself more eating crappy food from the local grocery store (Toxins) than with MMS.

Ampgod

Anchor
10-25-2008, 04:03 AM
This is an excellent thread with many good insights.

Thanks everyone

sunny D
10-25-2008, 08:02 AM
I think and want to make clear that experimenting with those products are not wise and can be harmful, like any medicine. The ingredients are pretty aggresive and as they are used wrong, cause a lot of harm. You might leave composing this product to someone who knows more of such things, to avoid errors.... I know about the healing effect and the use in africa to stabilise symptoms of malaria, hepatitus ect. Just want to say, again..., take care en keep thinking....!!! Namaste :winksmiley02:

peaceandlove
10-25-2008, 10:18 AM
Here is some further information posted on the internet regarding extreme reactions to MMS.

How to Avoid Nausea

FIRST OBSERVATION:
Nausea occurring during the one to three drop phase can be reduced or avoided completely.

Using standard instructions, MMS users start with one drop morning and evening (mixed as directed). The next day they move up to two drops morning and evening, etc. Eventually at the 15 drop (or higher) level they stay at that high level for 5 to 7 days, then drop back to a small maintenance level of 4 to 6 drops twice each week.

Recently it was discovered that a few people are allergic to citric acid. The MMS instructions state that one or another weak acid must be mixed with MMS. Five drops acid mixed with each one drop of MMS. If someone experiences nausea at the one drop level, it could indicate a reaction caused by the use of citric acid. Probably one or two drops of citric acid under the tongue would trigger the reaction if that is a factor to be considered.

Similarly, a few people are allergic to lemon juice which could cause an early nauseous reaction. Such people can easily switch to another acid such as lime juice or unfiltered vinegar. These early nausea cases represent rare anomalies. Nausea can be bypassed easily by experimenting with different acids at the one drop level. (For the uninitiated, the MMS and acid is mixed and then after three minutes it is diluted with water or apple juice for easy drinking).

There's logic to this slow dosage ramp-up. The liquid that you drink slowly releases chlorine dioxide in the stomach. Red blood cells pick it up cheerfully (they think it's oxygen) and the blood carries a small amount of the gas to all parts of the body. The gas has no attraction at all to living cells, but upon coming into proximity with a virus or bacteria, the ClO2 plunders 4 or 5 electrons out of the wall of the virus. As though struck by lightening, the virus wall collapses and its fragments float away in the blood stream to the liver where they're recognized and marked for exit to the elimination systems. The MMS molecule also self-destructs, reverting into two molecules of water and one molecule of salt.

This is the reason why instructions mandate starting with one drop, then moving up slowly. No one knows how infested you may be with pathogens. Even walking around in good health, you still have no idea how many pathogens are going to be found and torched. Of course, maybe you're sick already and you know there are flu or cold germs to be destroyed. Maybe TB. Maybe HIV. Maybe hidden germs from a previous infection. They will gradually get torched as you ramp up.

And what about all the years of vaccinations and injections you received since childhood (containing mercury and formaldehyde). What about the MSG in almost every can of soup, and Aspartame in diet drinks and 100 food products (sticking to the nerves)? Some people cooked for years in aluminum pots, now aluminum is in the brain along with fluoride and lead from drinking water. Have you breathed exhaust fumes? Cigarette toxins in your lungs? Mercury in teeth fillings? What will the MMS find to kill in your body - much or little?

Being in the dark about your "infestations" it's recommended that MMS users start with a very low dosage. A few people report getting diarrhea at the two drop level. Actually this is welcome and the sooner you pass this phase the better. You'll be pleased to know that MMS does NOT destroy desirable flora, the acidophilus, and other welcomed aids that improve nutritional absorption. The structures and PH levels of these organisms make them unattractive to the chlorine dioxide gas. Parasites and diverticular folds are readily cleared out by ClO2 in the blood stream. Old sausage links and "stuck-stuff-unmentionables" may be expelled.

As is typical of all advertised detoxifying herbs and methods, diarrhea is one of the desired outcomes. You know you're in the detoxifying stage when your intestines want to expel whatever was undesirable. Diaper Up. Be happy. It might last two to four days. Get ready. Usually it happens at the 7 to 9 MMS drop level. But your biochemistry is unique to you. You don't know the scope of accumulated toxin-buildup in your body. Therefore, "urgent elimination" could begin at the two drop level. Nausea, however, usually occurs later.

A few aggressive people have called who felt invincible and who started with five drops and moved up three drops each day. Some people notice no effects of any kind and imagine that "nothing's happening - it's not working" so they leap ahead. How soon the proud are fallen. At low levels pathogens ARE being executed. The elimination systems easily handle the small amount of debris so you imagine nothing's happening.

Eventually there will be nausea, and even throwing up for these aggressive people. Maybe they're the type of people who never took doctor's orders seriously. Nausea may be disabling in some cases. You may be unable to go to work, for example. For not understanding the nature of the progression, nausea is sometimes the moment of turning back, of wanting to quit, or giving up. The cliche' will be "I was sick already and MMS made me sicker." Or "Marketing hype promised that MMS will bring health but it's making me WORSE!" Even out on the internet forums you'll see crude talk like "Can't believe what a scam this is - I puked all day and want to warn everyone about this #xyz% MMS scam..." (This quote has been weakened a bit....")

So let's be clear: If you want to detoxify with any herbal or other detox product on the market, you're asking for bowels to be cleared out and other things as well. Diarrhea and nausea are not unique to MMS. However, unlike other detox products, the MMS option costs mere pennies. It clears metals out of your brain and fungus from your toes. You want clearing out? Then don't fuss when it happens. Throwing up proves that fragments of torched pathogens were killed rapidly - too rapidly. Your elimination systems couldn't handle that much garbage that rapidly. The garbage man knocked at your door saying "stop putting so much trash out in one day! We've had it with you and we aren't going to process your garbage today until you learn to spread it out more reasonably.

SECOND OBSERVATION:
MMS nausea at the seven to ten drop level can be reduced or avoided by lowering the dosage temporarily, or by increasing hours between doses.

If you understand why nausea occurs, you can probably avoid it altogether. As you move upward in dosage drops, more ClO2 gas is carried in the blood and it also goes further and deeper throughout your body with each passing day. With more of it going further, there will be a surprising moment when more pathogens, yeast, bacteria, viruses, and metals are collapsed into flotsam and jetsam particles.

They are truly garbage-toxins at this stage and they're floating in the blood. Soon they pass through the liver where the toxins are marked for elimination.

But too much garbage coming too rapidly can put the elimination systems into stress, meaning it couldn't keep up. These excess toxins end up back in the stomach. There they are recognized as "bad food." Nausea might cause you to walk around the house all day carrying a little bucket - UNLESS you understand how to avoid it.

By listening to your body, you can sense when nausea might soon follow as you increase dosage. This sounds too obvious, but there's a geometric progression - a suddenness where one additional drop will thrust you into sullen sadness. You need to hold, or back off one drop just as soon as there's a hint of possible nausea and thereby avoid it.

TIP:
There is an antidote if you ever feel "overdosed" with MMS. If disabling nausea erupts suddenly with no warning, the antidote that stops further production of ClO2 gas is to quickly drink water with about two tea spoons of baking soda. That will neutralize the production of ClO2. Since there are toxins in the stomach already, after you stop ClO2 production it may be 30 to 60 minutes before nausea ceases. Another antidote is orange juice, or vitamin C which also diminishes the production of ClO2 gas.

Here's an analogy that explains the SUDDEN aspect. Picture this assignment. You want to cut a 20 mile path through a forest of bamboo and tall jungle grass. You start on day one from your hut with one machete (one drop dose). Hacking begins and by nightfall you've cleared a path for 100 feet. The knife is worn out (MMS is used up) and you go home for the night. Stay with me - this is going somewhere....

Next day a friend joins and together you set out (two drops) - two hacking men and two machetes. BUT NOTICE:

They do a cake-walk down the first hundred feet. There's no resistance - the path has already been cleared. They sing male duets and whistle until they reach the jungle. Then they both begin hacking. Behold, the two of them go 200 feet beyond the first 100 feet. At day end 300 hundred feet total have been cleared.

Next day a three drop team starts out - three men and three machetes. They stroll happily for 300 feet, then start hacking. Now, beyond the first 300 feet they clear 300 more feet. There are now 600 feet of cleared path. As this continues with more men (or drops) per day, there'll be a point when the team walks 10 miles on a cleared path to the middle of the jungle, and then on that day the complete second half of the 20 mile path will get finished in one last happy day - 10 miles all in one last day. What a bunch of happy choppers on that last 10 mile hack - all in one day.

This is not true, but picture this progression. (fantasy here...) Day one the one drop dose gets a little ClO2 out to the shoulders. Next day the two drop dose finds that a path was cleared previously all the way to the shoulders - no pathogens to be found. So, the gas on day two starts at the shoulders and gets to the upper arms, killing pathogens. On day three the gas finds no resistance and there's more of it available so it kills pathogens all the way from elbow-to-wrist areas - and because there's more gas than before it even goes to the fingers.

That's a silly example because each day the gas actually does go further and deeper all over the body and each day there's more of it. No gas was self-sacrificed or used up along the way on each new day so ClO2 can suddenly reach new places and upon discovery of remote germs, it can SUDDENLY release so many toxins so rapidly that YOU WILL GET NAUSEA due to garbage overload - something like clearing 10 miles of jungle all in one day SUDDENLY.

These analogies attempt to explain the hair-trigger suddenness of nausea onset. So what can you do?

You can watch carefully at the 7 to 10 drop levels to sense whether you should place more hours between doses, or possibly back down one drop for a few days. Notice that you will get past the nausea stage somewhere along the ramp to the 15 drop level. Diarrhea will cease and nausea will cease unless the gas encounters another large swath of pathogens somewhere else in your body.

Glands have the least blood supply - lymph, breast, prostate, thyroid so MMS may get there last. Some poisons cling to nerve cells and may be among the last to yield to the ClO2 gas. Fungus under toe nails may be among the last to crumble and depart.

Until I experienced severe nausea myself, I thought nausea was a childish complaint - a harmless event. "Just buck up! !" I thought. But if nausea makes you quit using MMS, and if there's a workaround to reduce the problem, then I hope you read further before quitting.

:( To experience the dreaded nausea I stopped taking MMS for a few days at the nine drop level. It seemed that nothing was happening up to that level - I felt invincible. A few days later I jumped back in at the 12 drop level to see what would happen. Well, it was just awful. I lost a full day of activity. Couldn't walk it off or sleep it off. No TV program was of interest. Just a continual nagging surprise that nausea could be this bad and actually put people out of commission. I was afraid I wouldn't throw up - it would have helped. Easily 14 hours were lost from productivity.

Summarizing - THERE"S NO NEED TO EVER GET NAUSEA from MMS.
Upon receiving the smallest nausea signals, strategically reduce dosage slightly. Detoxification will continue but without causing overload. The only exception might be in the case of tumors that grow faster than MMS can nibble at it's edges but normally that's not an issue. Since nausea can make you miss work or stop normal activities - and since you don't want to feel sick day after day, consider backing off in the dosage, or place more hours between doses. There's no merit in rushing the process. No angel above demands 10 days of dreadful suffering and then maybe you'll qualify for slightly better health. No, quite the opposite!


THIRD OBSERVATION:
There is a relief option when you don't back off soon enough:

It was reported to Jim Humble that if you eat cold apple slices as soon as nausea begins, the apple pulp will absorb stomach toxins that have been dumped there. Apples absorb toxins quite reliably, so keep some cold apples on hand to reduce nausea before it puts you down for the day.

Also, there are charcoal capsules at drugstores that absorb huge amounts of gas and toxins, causing toxins to "move downward." The capsules are harmless. Two or more capsules could be swallowed using directions on the bottle.

Most of the herbal detoxifying agents on the market prepare you for prolonged nausea or diarrhea or both. Some expect you to eat very little for five days. Not so here.

Apples to the rescue. Based on the enormous population of people that Mr. Humble has treated, this apple-solution has proven to be helpful. This helps us see the reason for very gradually increasing dosage up to the 15 drop level and holding it there for a week. You should be detoxified by the end of that week and a low maintenance level is suggested thereafter. Some people actually make it to the 30 drop level.


CLOSING THOUGHT:
Through all the years of our lives we've been taking in poisons and toxic materials that got stuck in muscle, fat, nerves, and brain. Our immune systems have been on the defensive from early childhood, devoted entirely to maintaining life defensively against a ceaseless barrage of bad air, impure water, and now genetically modified foods. The immune system has been kept very busy, sometimes retreating in effectiveness, other times just barely keeping up.

With MMS, if we push through to a 15 drop level or even up to 30 drops, and maintain it for a while, our immune systems may eventually have spare time to go on the offensive. What might happen if your immune system had nothing to do but produce surprises of restoration for you? Immune systems on the offensive are rarely seen. Missing body parts might grow back. A third set of teeth might appear in old age (does happen you know). Allergies might vanish. A missing finger might grow back. Insulin glands might begin to function again. A liver half gone in an alcoholic might regenerate to original size. First, we must detoxify. Then we might be in line for some restoration surprises.

With MMS we have opportunity to set the immune system free, empowering it to do what it was intended to do.

Biographical Information for Edward Lias:
I have a Ph.D. from New York University in research methods, and an MA from Columbia Univ. in business communications. I am not a medical doctor. As a research specialist I'm qualified to write about my own experiences and the experiences others have published in writings, books, and lectures. Jim Humble reviews my writings for accuracy. I completed 40 years in complex information system consulting and management. Author of two books and numerous technical articles. Living in East Texas.


FREE Download Jim Humble's book Part 1:
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See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols.

Swanny
10-25-2008, 10:36 AM
Does it cure baldness? :naughty:

peaceandlove
10-25-2008, 11:18 AM
Does it cure baldness? :naughty:

;) More information from the Internet:

Chlorine Dioxide gas circulates in the blood stream, destroying pathogens that are gradually eliminated.

~ MMS doesn't replace damaged body parts or add anything such as vitamins, nutrition, or protein.
~ MMS boosts the immune system immeasurably - 100% or even greater.
~ MMS doesn't heal anything. Sprains, whip-lash, bald head, addictions, and bad attitudes are not caused by bacteria.
~ When your body is free from poisons and toxins, the immune system sometimes "heals" damaged body parts.
~ Life style and positive attitudes are factors in triggering the immune system into reconstructive healing mode.
~ Claimed: MMS can be used periodically to maintain a cleansed toxin-free body, achieving high levels of immunity.
~ Conflict with other drugs is unlikely. If in doubt, voluntarily eliminate one or the other.

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and usage.

Peer
10-25-2008, 11:31 AM
@P&L:
Thank you for the very elaborate information.
I loose my patience to quickly when people keep suckin'.

Only one remark:
The metaphore with the bamboo is not quite correct:
If you cut 10 feet a day, next day you will have to cut the same ten feet again.
That's the problem with the darn bamboo....:mad3::lmao::roll1:

Swanny
10-25-2008, 11:32 AM
Oh well not to worry, would have been fun to be a long haired hippy again :naughty:

Just read this bit and thought hey maybe.

With MMS, if we push through to a 15 drop level or even up to 30 drops, and maintain it for a while, our immune systems may eventually have spare time to go on the offensive. What might happen if your immune system had nothing to do but produce surprises of restoration for you? Immune systems on the offensive are rarely seen. Missing body parts might grow back. A third set of teeth might appear in old age (does happen you know). Allergies might vanish. A missing finger might grow back. Insulin glands might begin to function again. A liver half gone in an alcoholic might regenerate to original size. First, we must detoxify. Then we might be in line for some restoration surprises.

Will wait till my hair turns white and grow it again that way I'll look like a wizard and not Max Wall

http://www.moviemarket.co.uk/thumbnails/150thumbs/268206.jpg

:thumb_yello:

sunny D
10-25-2008, 02:45 PM
:naughty:

alice goes nuts....
10-25-2008, 10:51 PM
hehe, i was ordering today....and looking forward for this ekspiriment.....so interesting, but i have also like 77 something read about people with more than healthy reactions, this was with hep c and herpes...anyway i think that slow start is the key here, a lot of people are loaded with germs, so ofcourse this can be harmful, i cant understnd how it can not be.....like a lot of other stuff overdosing....but by eliminating low ph cells it also have selflimiting reaction in a body...

but im exited abouth this.....big time!!!! :cup:

Swanny
10-26-2008, 12:00 PM
Found this video on how to mix it up

http://www.miraclems.com/video-mixing-mms-miracle-mineral-supplement.html

Peace2all
10-26-2008, 01:24 PM
I heard on Australian radio that MMS was being banned in Canada. Also heard that in Australia they closed down or are trying to the main distributor here. Finally found a fantastic site with everything from MMS - Collodial silver - Zappers, Oils, Vitamins,Aura stuff, our type of DVDs and everything that is hard to find.
I placed an order and received goods next day!! Sorry if sounds like an ad but its good to spread good word of mouth. (Tell Michael - Pep recommended!!)
www.transformation2012.com.au

Good luck on your journey, be encouraged to share wisdom, love and peace:original::original:

Zynox
10-26-2008, 02:19 PM
My MMS Experience (http://communityvisionblog.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2347170%3ATopic%3A1133)

"Statements made on this website have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. "

~ you are responsible for all your health choices (who else could be?) ~

~ your mind and spirit are equipped to diagnose and decide how you will treat, thyself ~


ok friends,

here is my on the ground, first hand, genuine experiences, with MMS ...

do you 'believe' in miracles?

...

pause

...

i am feeling ~ fantastic ~ after feeling like total abused and used chop liver the past three days

normally i have radiant health, with minor pesky nuances to deal with

i, seemingly, picked up a most assiduous bug last week, with all symptoms of one of those fun flu gigs that set us back a few weeks and challenge our passions and drives (low energy, body aches, swollen glands, head congestion, lung pressure, yada, Yada, YADA!)

after two days of failures with subtle remedies, intuition / synchronicity engaged and i ran across an e-mail i sent many moons ago, to another, elucidating past experiences, with MMS / Miracle Mineral Supplement ...

after three doses of 6 drops of "clo2" and 30 drops of citric acid, each 6-8 hours, i feel, most human, again, with exceptional energy and minor vague lingering 'symptoms', where just yesterday i was unable to stay awake longer than a few hours at a time, or, ~ focus ~

i encourage all whom want a sharp tool in their bag, to research and form independent conclusions ... whilst, i wanna share, my recovered, radiant, bliss ~

peaceandlove
10-26-2008, 06:55 PM
As with all alternative health claims, I agree with Zynox.

Zynox: "Statements made on this website have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. "

~ you are responsible for all your health choices (who else could be?) ~

~ your mind and spirit are equipped to diagnose and decide how you will treat, thyself ~

:o Personally, I just stepped up to 12 drops twice a day yesterday after being at a plateau for quite some time. I realized that maybe I was pushing it a little and felt a little queasy and very tired. Eventually had to sleep for 4 hours as my body was working overtime.

More Tidbits from the Internet about MMS.


City Water Purification Systems:

Chlorine Dioxide is preferred as a water purifier over pure chlorine because it leaves no toxic waste in the water as it destroys pathogens. We have all ingested small amounts of chlorine dioxide - as when we drink city water.

Used by Children:

At camping stores you can buy several types of water purification bottles or packages. MMS is first and foremost a purifying agent. One drop in a pint of water is claimed to be free of all pathogens within two minutes. It deodorizes, purifies, and is claimed to even make urine drinkable. It's a legal product in nearly all camping and outdoor stores.

Vitamin C temporarily diminishes the effect of MMS so it's suggested that Vitamin C be taken two hours or longer after any given dose of MMS. For information on why normal body cells remain completely unaffected by MMS, read through 127 pages of Humble's Book One. (FREE download link below)


I have read that anywhere from 1 - 3 drops will purify a gallon of water.

To purify water: (including spigot water) one drop of MMS in one gallon of water will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and pathogens from the water. The water will be odor free and drinkable within two or three minutes after mixing. One or two drops of lemon juice will speed the purification process. This drinking water has no health benefits except that heavy metals and bacteria were removed from the water. The gas sacrifices itself and reverts to become a few molecules of water. The gas disappears.

'New' Third Edition including Part 1 & Part 2 available at authorized Jim Humble website below:

FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
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Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide:

See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols.

Swanny
10-28-2008, 01:00 PM
My bottle turned up this morning :original:
Just taken one drop

Avid
10-28-2008, 01:52 PM
My bottle turned up this morning :original:
Just taken one drop

O-oh! I have nausea phobia - fingers and everything else crossed you don't have side effects - good luck Swanny! :original:
Keep us posted!

Swanny
10-28-2008, 04:41 PM
Thx mate will do :)

Ampgod
10-28-2008, 08:34 PM
My bottle turned up this morning :original:
Just taken one drop

Did you get the DVD and Book?
HIGHLY RECOMMEND !
If people just want to understand MMS the book & Dvd are AWSOME!
I really learned a lot from them.:thumb_yello:

PS. SWANNY,
Keep us updated as to your progress please. :)

Swanny
10-28-2008, 08:52 PM
No I didn't get dvd or book, have seen a lot of info on here :)

Ampgod
10-29-2008, 08:23 PM
*** UPDATE for my journey with MMS ****

I am now currently doing 2 doses of 9 drops per day.
Each day I raise it up 1 drop more.
I am using Odwalla Pomegranate Juice (0% vitamin C).
I use about 1/2 cup juice and 1/2 cup water mix.

I have found that eating a nice meal about 30 minutes before taking MMS really helps.:thumb_yello:
For example I had Oatmeal with cranberries for breakfast and then had my MMS 30 minutes later.


Peace,
Ampgod

Circlewerk
10-29-2008, 08:30 PM
*** UPDATE for my journey with MMS ****

I am now currently doing 2 doses of 9 drops per day.
Each day I raise it up 1 drop more.
I am using Odwalla Pomegranate Juice (0% vitamin C).
I use about 1/2 cup juice and 1/2 cup water mix.

I have found that eating a nice meal about 30 minutes before taking MMS really helps.:thumb_yello:
For example I had Oatmeal with cranberries fro breakfast and then had my MMS 30 minutes later.


Peace,
Ampgod

Hi Ampgod,

Notice any difference in the "Common nasty virus" you've had for years?
I appreciate you keeping us current.

CW

Gnosis5
10-29-2008, 08:44 PM
For some reason, no matter how I disguise it, my body hates MMS. Perhaps after I regenerate my thyroid my body will handle it well.

cheers!
gnosis

Ampgod
10-29-2008, 08:46 PM
Hi Ampgod,

Notice any difference in the "Common nasty virus" you've had for years?
I appreciate you keeping us current.

CW


Here is the virus I have...

Herpes Simplex (Not the genital version)

I have had this for many many years.
Got it from some chick back in my wilder days. haha :naughty:
It breaks out on my lips maybe once a year. If that.
Yes! I notice it does effect it in a good way. :)
No need for my pills anymore. :thumb_yello:

So I'm trying to kill this damn virus once and for all!
Wish me luck. hehe

SieS
10-29-2008, 08:56 PM
For some reason, no matter how I disguise it, my body hates MMS. Perhaps after I regenerate my thyroid my body will handle it well.


Hi gnosis,

Don't disguise it, just start with less. Use the correct mixture.

I had to start very slow, 1 drop of mms and one drop activator.

In the netherlands it is used a lot. A good forum to look at, althoug all in Dutch is: http://www.vrijeenergiemachine.nl/phpBB2/

Ampgod
10-29-2008, 09:04 PM
For some reason, no matter how I disguise it, my body hates MMS. Perhaps after I regenerate my thyroid my body will handle it well.

cheers!
gnosis

It is also important to note that if you have a lot of toxins or other issues in you your body will let you know when taking MMS. It just means you are flushing out all the **** in your system. I have had a few times of horrid diarrhea the likes no man should ever have to look at. HAHAHA
But after awhile it gets better. You feel better. It's the body working as it should. Don't be afraid of it. :thumb_yello:

:)

Oh and I also quit dairy and fermented products.
As they are not good for the body.
They contain bad bacteria and/or fungus.

Here is a small list of no no's (in my view)

Milk (bacteria and/or fungus)
Buttermilk (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Sour cream (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Soy sauce (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Miso (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Alcohol (includes wine) (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Cheese (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Vinegar (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)

You get the idea.
Many people scoff at this idea of not eating these.
This is just some of what I believe does not belong in our bodies.
They directly and adversely effect the liver and cause bad symptoms like migraines etc.

Why would you want to put anything old, moldy, sour, spoiled etc into your body?
I wouldn't.

Peace,
Ampgod

Peer
10-29-2008, 09:13 PM
I started again a week ago taking 5 drops a day and I feel it works.
My feaces have become cleaner, rhumatic pains in my body slowly disappear just by taking 5 drops once a day.
Sometimes even take it with Coca Cola as a test and it works nonetheless.

Although the weather is getting worse, wet, misty etc I feel nothing like a cold or anything.

Ordered another litre of the stuff to be sure to have enough for life in case they should forbid it.

Swanny
10-29-2008, 10:20 PM
I love all these and wont give them up :)

Milk (bacteria and/or fungus)
Buttermilk (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Sour cream (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Soy sauce (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Miso (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Alcohol (includes wine) (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Cheese (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)
Vinegar (fermented) (bacteria and/or fungus)


My instructions were to add one extra drop each dose.
I took 3 this morning and 4 tonite.
So far feel fine :original:

Ampgod
10-31-2008, 06:07 AM
UPDATE :

Date: October 30, 2008

Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

Current Dose: 11 Drops twice a day. (and climbing)

I have noticed that some of the tiny bubble-like blisters, in my upper lip that stay dormant and slowly build up, were attacked by the MMS and brought to surface by the body and eliminated buy the oxygen exposure. With NO Side effects at all!

This my friends is a wonderful sign!
I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.

Rock on!:thumb_yello:
Ampgod

Ampgod
10-31-2008, 06:12 AM
*Has nothing to do with MMS testing but I made a duplicate post and figured I'd use the space for something constructive.

Cure for acid reflux : just eat a celery stick or pound watermelon juice.
This will bring you alkaline again.

Cured! :)

Swanny
10-31-2008, 09:13 AM
What do you mean by acid reflux?? My stomach is a rumbling and a grumbling :original:

I'm catch you up. had 7 this morning and will take 8 tonite, thinking I might stay at 8 tomorrow for the day.
Haven't noticed anything yet. Oh apart from it makes me burp :blink:

peaceandlove
10-31-2008, 10:10 AM
My friend has diabetes, do you really think this will cure him??
Somewhat of an answer regarding Diabetes further down in post.

You know I stepped it up to 12 drops twice a day and the other day I slept 12 hours, got up once during the night, even missed an appointment because I didn't hear my alarm. I backed off for a day and am back on today. After being at 11 drops for quite some time, it was amazing the difference when I went up to 12 drops. (more visits to the restroom again :blink:)

;) MORE INFO FROM MMS SITE

PATHOGENS: What are they?

A wide range of germs, parasites, and other unwanted organisms can enter the human body where they attempt to grow, reproduce, and wreck havoc by triggering dozens of defensive responses from the immune system.

We feel a cold coming on because the gold germ was observed by the immune system. To retaliate against the invading pathogen, histamine is produced and body temperature is raised in hope that this unwanted virus or bacteria may give up and die from the extra heat.

If immunity has been weakened, the invading germ multiplies and enjoys a cozy host, drawing free nutrients and taking over without pity. We say we've got a cold, or pneumonia, or bronchitus, or sticky phlem, or runny noses.

"PATHOGEN" is a general term similar to "germ" referring to any agent causing disease.

Usually a living microorganism.
Capable of producing infection.
Poisons like Arsenic would be excluded.

MMS Mineral Drops when used as directed, are claimed to destroy virtually all the pathogens listed below except for the "Proteen Pathogens" where 8 to 10 years of observational-testing may be required.

VIRUSES: Multi-celled but can only reproduce inside a plant, animal or person.

Hepatitis, Herpes, Mono, Warts, Chicken Pox, Small Pox, Bird Flue H5N1, Norovirus, Yellow Fever, Ebola Hemmorhagic Fever, SARS, AIDS, HIV, Influenza, Cold Sores, Cold Germs, Measles, Tetanus, Typhoid

BACTERIA: Tiny one-celled creatures. Can live inside or outside the body.

Tuberculosis, Anthrax, Staph, E.Coli, Typhoid, Salmonella, Morgellons ?, Pneumonia, Urinary Tract Infection, Peritonitis, Strep Throat, Stomach Ulcers, Tularemia, Lyme Disease

FUNGI: Multi-celled but plant-like similar to tree fungus. Takes nutrition from a plant, tree or animal.

Ringworm, Ady Pneumonia, Candidiasis, Yeast Infection, Histoplasmosis, Cryptococcosis

PROTOZOA: One-celled creatures. Usually spread through water.

Malaria, Chagas Disease, Giardiasis, Cryptosporidiosis

PARASITES: Actual complex living organism. Can live in intestinal tract or blood stream.

Round Worm, Tape Worm, Triginosis, Morgellons ?

PROTEIN: Multi-celled but can only reproduce inside a plant, animal or person.

BSE Mad Cow Disease, vCJD Disease

Incomplete list gathered from various medical books.

Diabetes is not on the list because it's not caused by a pathogen.

That would be a case of glands that no longer produce adequate insulin - a mal-functioning body part that MMS may improve but cannot restore. MMS has provided unusual improvements in diabetic persons, possibly because irritation of the pancreas is eliminated, or because the liver is cleansed to perform its functions more normally.



FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.

Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide:

See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols.

Peer
10-31-2008, 12:48 PM
Thanks p&l for your great information.:thumb_yello:

Swanny
10-31-2008, 03:12 PM
Cheers Peace :)

I have given my friend with diabetes 2 doses, one of 2 drops and one of 3 drops, he text-ed me last nite to say his thyroid gland was hurting, and phoned me this morning to tell me he feels like superman :winner_second_h4h:
He is now registered here so hopefully will share his experiences with us. :original:


I've noticed that I'm not getting headaches, not sure if this is because of the MMS or because I've stopped taking aspartame, I normally get one everyday.

Oh yea and while I was in Vietnam two years ago I got a ear infection, so I took anti-biotic, which fixed it but gave me a yeast infection on my tongue because it killed the friendly bacteria in my gut. I had a horrible taste in my mouth and have been taking some friendly bacteria (acidophilus) to fix it. It sort of did but my tongue has still looked a bit white, but I have just noticed it's back to normal now :tongue2:

alice goes nuts....
10-31-2008, 08:19 PM
mine is coming monday i tink, ordered a week ago, but i must ask; do i have to use citric acid, or can i just use lemondrops from this plastic cans????

and do i have to start with just one drop of mms???

and how many aciddrops whith this one mms drop???

i m to lazy to read the whole tread to figure this out....

Swanny
10-31-2008, 08:38 PM
Lazy cow :naughty:
I use lemon juice 5 drops to each drop of mms
I started with one drop in the morning and then two drops in the eve and so on, I'm at 8 now.


:original:

peaceandlove
10-31-2008, 09:51 PM
mine is coming monday i tink, ordered a week ago, but i must ask; do i have to use citric acid, or can i just use lemondrops from this plastic cans????

and do i have to start with just one drop of mms???

and how many acid drops whith this one mms drop???


;) Blessings Alice Goes Nuts,

It is highly recommended to start with only 1 drop of MMS with 5 drops of activator (whether that be the citric acid that is also sold on the website or 5 drops of lime or lemon) twice a day.

If you have no reaction (queasy feeling) then next day go to 2 drops of MMS with 10 drops of activator twice a day on empty stomach two hours away from any Vitamin C.

You can also go up by one drop morning and night. Always reduce dosage any time you feel ill, and slowly build back up again. Some people find they need to stay at 1 drop for quite some time before increasing drops.

It is highly recommended you read the protocol: go to this page and look for my posts number #33 and #34 for quick read, http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781&page=2

Remember to go slow, there is no hurry. It has taken many years to poison our bodies and it may take some time to remove the toxins and pathogens. Look for my Avatar along this thread for other information starting on page 2.


FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

LEGAL NOTICE - DISCLAIMER

Warning: Statements expressed within this site have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. Any and all information and/or statements found within this site are for educational purposes only and are NOT intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent disease or replace the advice of a licensed healthcare practitioner.

Ampgod
11-01-2008, 08:07 AM
UPDATE :

Date: October 31, 2008

Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

Current Dose: 15 Drops twice a day.

I decided I could probably handle jumping from 11 drops to the 15 drop dose twice a day. I took the 15 drops tonight and am totally fine.

I can't stress enough how having a meal 20-30 minutes before the dose really helps. :)
I have used Oatmeal (Plain, no sugar) and it has worked fantastic for me.

Swanny
11-01-2008, 10:53 AM
I've gone back down to 5 drops this morning.
Had dodgy belly yesterday, still the same today and wont be venturing too far away from the toilet today :blink:
And certainly won't be risking any of this malarkey :chuff:

Looking forward to this part of it passing :original:

Seven
11-01-2008, 11:02 AM
I feel somethings coming down ... sore throat and a slight dis comfort ...
So I start to use mms again ...

Swanny
11-01-2008, 11:10 AM
As is typical of all advertised detoxifying herbs and methods, diarrhea is one of the desired outcomes. You know you're in the detoxifying stage when your intestines want to expel whatever was undesirable. Diaper Up. Be happy. It might last two to four days. Get ready. Usually it happens at the 7 to 9 MMS drop level. But your biochemistry is unique to you. You don't know the scope of accumulated toxin-buildup in your body. Therefore, "urgent elimination" could begin at the two drop level. Nausea, however, usually occurs later. Yep thats when it hit me

alice goes nuts....
11-01-2008, 11:20 AM
ok, thanks for good info, i m still waiting for my mms to come, i was ordering from this link

http://www.miracle-mineral-supplement.com/instructions_miracle_mineral_supplement.html

does anyone know if this is a good product?

it was strange, i thougt i was banned in canada, but i saw out of the firm on my mail that this was canadian firm.....does anyone know how they can shipt this if it is not leagal in canada anymore? or was tyhis mabye not true???

hehe....i hope u tell this is good product, i m so looking forward to get it, afterreading a lot intresting stuff on other forums.....and i hope it will turn my clock 15 years back.....hehe.....

anyway i will keep you informed....sooooo ecxited about this...because i know that vaccine was the reason for my "crack" 25 years ago.....and i m claiming my full energy back....it never became 100% after severe vaccine reaction.....

motov
11-01-2008, 12:52 PM
hey... just orderd some MMS and are realy exited... got many problems to atend to, so i have experimented for years with all kinds of stuff but nothing really dose the trick, done heavy doses on h2o2 and got some posetive efects but it tast like s*** so im realy looking forward to MMS... ill give updates on my progress when i have it...:cheerful_h4h:

cugata
11-01-2008, 01:29 PM
The best way to get rid of all the deseases we are exposed today is going back to the pre-1940 nutrition way. Read Brian Peskin's "The hidden story of cancer" available at http://www.brianpeskin.com/ . Also Essiac, info available at http://www.essiacinfo.org/ will bring you to a new level of health.

The first step I took. Get rid of trash food because that is one of the tools the new order is using to kill 2 billion humans.

Good luck !!!

Ed

Peer
11-01-2008, 02:07 PM
Hey Swanny, I see you skipped the red pill as well :roll1:

Peer
11-01-2008, 02:12 PM
@AGN: Alice, that's the stuff girl. (You are a girl are you?)

Swanny
11-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Yea the red pill has gone down the hatch and out the other end now, still chasing the rabbit though :)

Not going to take my dose tonite as I'm out on the beer and don't want to risk any accidents, took a 1000 Vit C tablet earlier as well :original:

peaceandlove
11-01-2008, 06:37 PM
UPDATE :

I decided I could probably handle jumping from 11 drops to the 15 drop dose twice a day. I took the 15 drops tonight and am totally fine.

I can't stress enough how having a meal 20-30 minutes before the dose really helps. :)


Please remember that taking the MMS with food will diminish the effect of it. The goal is to receive as much benefit as possible from the MMS. Taking on an empty stomach will increase the effectiveness of it. Do not attempt to diminish nausea by eating before hand, reduce dosage if nausea occurs.

Please also refer to the Nausea post #66 page 3 at: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781&page=3

But your biochemistry is unique to you. You don't know the scope of accumulated toxin-buildup in your body. Therefore, "urgent elimination" could begin at the two drop level. Nausea, however, usually occurs later.

A few aggressive people have called who felt invincible and who started with five drops and moved up three drops each day. Some people notice no effects of any kind and imagine that "nothing's happening - it's not working" so they leap ahead. How soon the proud are fallen. At low levels pathogens ARE being executed. The elimination systems easily handle the small amount of debris so you imagine nothing's happening.

Eventually there will be nausea, and even throwing up for these aggressive people. Maybe they're the type of people who never took doctor's orders seriously. Nausea may be disabling in some cases. You may be unable to go to work, for example. For not understanding the nature of the progression, nausea is sometimes the moment of turning back, of wanting to quit, or giving up.

You can watch carefully at the 7 to 10 drop levels to sense whether you should place more hours between doses, or possibly back down one drop for a few days. Notice that you will get past the nausea stage somewhere along the ramp to the 15 drop level. Diarrhea will cease and nausea will cease unless the gas encounters another large swath of pathogens somewhere else in your body.

Glands have the least blood supply - lymph, breast, prostate, thyroid so MMS may get there last. Some poisons cling to nerve cells and may be among the last to yield to the ClO2 gas. Fungus under toe nails may be among the last to crumble and depart.


FREE DownloadDownload of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see many more previous and future posts by peaceandlove starting at page #2 regarding protocols.

alice goes nuts....
11-01-2008, 08:21 PM
@AGN: Alice, that's the stuff girl. (You are a girl are you?)



si....i m girl....but u meant that i ve ordered the right brand of mms???..i followed your link....hehe

flynt144
11-01-2008, 09:15 PM
Hello, Im a friend of Swanny, Im type 1 diabetic and have been taking MMS for four days.
Im Up to 7 drops.
First couple of days my thyroids were painfull buts thats gone.
Now im getting stabbing pains (left kidney,head,ears and eyes),nothing I cant handle.
Best thing is in between the detoxing I feel more alive as if my lungs feel cleaner and making better use of oxygen.
Looking forwards to seeing what will happen in a week or two :original:

Sir-Chi
11-01-2008, 10:26 PM
MMS is a NO BRAINER ..... since the article about MMS ran in http://www.spiritofmaat.com/may08/ issue in May, I've come to know dozen of close friends who all jumped on this.

My family and I also have been taking the Chlorine Dioxide since early June.

WOW its a no brainer once you understand the science. Your body is mostly water and the MMS goes in and kills Dis Ease like nothing else. It knocked out a foot fungus within me and i'm also getting excellent results on my candida. We also give it to our 5 yr old whenever she has the sniffles and it almost always knocks out early signs of colds.

I started with the one drop then jump up to 3 then 5, 8, 12 & 15 which is what i take each night before bed.

Now my partner she started at 1 and worked her way up to 30 drops a day, 15 in the morning and 15 at night.

Its best to take after you eat or right before bed for it seems to help you sleep sounder.

I know many people who got sick but you just back down a few drops. I can really only take it before bed for it tends to wack me out if i take it during the day and i have a very physical job so taking before bed is best for me.

For $20 you can get about a years worth. Now we just recieved a report that the FDA is trying to ban this here in the states too, so i recommend you stock up. For about $100 you can get almost a lifetime supply of the sodium cloride ... all you then need is citric acid a.k.a lemons etc....

I recommend you just get Jim Humbles book or Video ....and plus there is plenty on YouTUbe about it.

THE BEST IS TO DRINK IT WITH GRAPE CONCENTRATE ...... you can't taste it at all.

Also for people dealing with cancer, aids etc..... it might take a while BUT BE PATIENT .... it really works. I've seen 2 Aids victums .... reverse dramatically their illness, to the point where they do not take any other meds. WOW and just for $20 ....

PLEASE FOLKS do your homework on this one ..... ITS A NO BRAINER!!

To a Rise in Consciouness
with much,
love, light and laughter
SC

peaceandlove
11-01-2008, 11:22 PM
UPDATE :

I decided I could probably handle jumping from 11 drops to the 15 drop dose twice a day. I took the 15 drops tonight and am totally fine.

I can't stress enough how having a meal 20-30 minutes before the dose really helps. :)


Please remember that taking the MMS with food will diminish the effect of it. The goal is to receive as much benefit as possible from the MMS. Taking on an empty stomach will increase the effectiveness of it. Attempting to diminish nausea by eating before hand, also diminishes the effectiveness, reduce dosage if nausea occurs.

Please also refer to the Nausea post #66 page 3 at: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781&page=3

INFORMATION from MMS Site: But your biochemistry is unique to you.You don't know the scope of accumulated toxin-buildup in your body. Therefore, "urgent elimination" could begin at the two drop level. Nausea, however, usually occurs later. A few aggressive people have called who felt invincible and who started with five drops and moved up three drops each day. Some people notice no effects of any kind and imagine that "nothing's happening - it's not working" so they leap ahead. How soon the proud are fallen. At low levels pathogens ARE being executed. The elimination systems easily handle the small amount of debris so you imagine nothing's happening.

Eventually there will be nausea, and even throwing up for these aggressive people. Maybe they're the type of people who never took doctor's orders seriously. Nausea may be disabling in some cases.

Authorized Jim Humble MMS Professional Website:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see past and future posts for quick reference to protocol and FAQ.

Ampgod
11-02-2008, 03:50 AM
peaceandlove stated the following....

Please remember that taking the MMS with food will diminish the effect of it. The goal is to receive as much benefit as possible from the MMS. Taking on an empty stomach will increase the effectiveness of it. Attempting to diminish nausea by eating before hand, also diminishes the effectiveness, reduce dosage if nausea occurs.

My question is....
What is the logic behind the statement that
"taking the MMS with food will diminish the effect?"

I disagree as I see it working on me.
If you can prove me wrong i'll be happy to look further at this claim of yours.

Please tell us where this information came from and where we may find it.

peaceandlove
11-02-2008, 06:11 AM
My question is....
What is the logic behind the statement that
"taking the MMS with food will diminish the effect?"

I disagree as I see it working on me.
If you can prove me wrong i'll be happy to look further at this claim of yours.

Please tell us where this information came from and where we may find it.

:o Blessings Ampgod,

It is never my intention to prove anyone right or wrong. This is not MY claim, but information gleaned from reading MMS websites and from what I have experienced.

I was hoping when I posted this information, which is only quoted (please notice quote marks on my posts) from MMS websites, you would not think it was directed at or demeaned you in anyway. You are not the only one I noticed that chooses to take their MMS solution with food.

As you may have read some people don't like to be bothered with reading directions, and if I can help anyone avert herx reactions, as I have experienced, then I did my job.

Perhaps I posted too hastily and probably should have spent more time, as I am doing now, explaining why. I did, however, spend well over 50 hours researching websites and reading about MMS before I even started and many hours since as it is my desire to share and help others in any way possible.

My concern was only that people may feel they can bump up their dosage as they see you do. If they do that on an empty stomach they may not have a very good day. I realize that, (from reading your posts you have a very good diet and I admire that) for yourself, by quickly increasing the dosage, this may not happen. I have also noticed from reading your different posts on different threads that you are a very intelligent person and I appreciate and respect your knowledge and perspective on diet, life, spirituality and politics. Not all people eat as well as you do and not all people have the same constitution.

Detoxing is as different and unique as each individual is.

You can search Google: mms empty stomach and find a number of sites

Empty or Full Stomach?

Jim says people are finding that taking it on an empty stomach is more efficient. An empty stomach maintains an acid condition that is just right for maintaining the chlorine dioxide.

You may find you can use fewer drops if taking on an empty stomach.

Vitamin C?

Take your MMS in the morning on an empty stomach and about 4 hours later, take your vitamin C.

Can’t Handle the taste? Some Suggestions:

Sip it over 2 hours. This helps your body take it in in steps also.
Mix with 1 teaspoon fructose when you add the water, it nearly completely masks the taste.
Use fresh apple cider with no preservatives or added Vitamin C or added ascorbic acid.


REGARDING VITAMIN C: You may notice when searching different sites, that some say when taking Vitamin C to wait 2 hours, some 3 hours, some even 4 hours away from the MMS.

Here is another one from: http://www.mmslymecure.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2
Discussions on MMS

How to improve the potency of MMS in my opinion:
1. Don't use Juices you don't need to use juice at lower doses when you do the 2 hour dosing procedure recommended for Lymie's (1 to 6 drops of MMS) just add distilled water instead. It really doesn't taste that bad.

2. USE CITRIC ACID. Humble says in his book that he has measured the amount of Chlorine Dioxide when using the Citric Acid 10% solution and he says that there is much more Chlorine Dioxide when Citric Acid 10% is used, compared to using the Lemon, Lime or Vinegar. Citric Acid isn't always available everywhere so he lists those other activators as less potent options.

3. Take away from Vitamin C. No C for 3 hours before and 3 hours after dosing MMS. This may also apply to other antioxidants as well. So I personally would dose in the morning with my MMS, take it throughout the day and then late at night take my antioxidants. Humble by the way thinks that only vitamin C is the problem not necessarily other antioxidants but we cant be sure of that.

4. Empty stomach or Full? In spite of what Humble says in order to counter potential nausea he recommends taking MMS with food. I don't believe MMS could or should be used with food in the stomach. It's an oxidizer plain and simple. If you have food in your stomach it may just start oxidizing your food instead of pathogens within the body. Enzymes during digestion might also be acting on the chlorine dioxide to break it down as well within the GI.

godlikeproductions.com/forum

Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century Quote

Jim says an empty stomach is best but is not necessary. This is a decision he has only recently come to. So all the work MMS has done in the past with folks generally has not been on an empty stomach. If you have been eating before taking it and now want to do it on an empty stomach you better cut your dosage way back.

Distilled water would be your best choice, You want something very pure, very clean so the power of the medicine is not wasted on oxidizing stuff that's in the water.


So what I am reading into these testimonials, directions and proposed biological knowledge is that if you take the same dosage of MMS after a meal one day and then on an empty stomach the next day, you may have completely different reactions. If you are taking with food in your stomach then you may have to go to a higher level than 15 drops to achieve the full detoxifying benefit intended by the protocol of taking it on an empty stomach.

I have also in the last two months had different reactions with the same dosage on a completely empty stomach compared to taking it within an hour or two of eating either before or after the MMS.

It is my intent through the comprehensive information I have posted on this thread to inform people, in the quickest way, as to the safest usage of 'Professional Grade' MMS as provided at http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing[/COLOR] Ships worldwide.

Please see past and future post for more quick information.

Ampgod
11-02-2008, 06:46 AM
Good work PEACEANDLOVE :)

Found some info from Jim Humbles Book.

I just found a part in his book 3rd Edition. Page 141. Underlined.
"PLEASE NOTE: normally healthy people can take these drops without nausea, especially after a meal."

Then 3rd paragraph down....
"Sometimes even sick people do not experience nausea when taking MMS, but do not be surprised when people get sick or have nausea,or diarrhea, or even vomit after taking a few drops of MMS. Try to take it or give it immediatly after a meal. etc."

So there is the answer.
If you have trouble with nausea take after meal. (No vitamin C)
NOTE: as written above if you stop taking after a meal cut back on dose. (thanks for this info) ;)

*On the web I got mixed info on this.
*But the above quotes are straight from his book.


Peace,
Ampgod

flynt144
11-02-2008, 12:59 PM
Link to MMS suppliers world wide
http://www.miraclemineral.org/suppliers.php

Peer
11-02-2008, 02:54 PM
I take a regular dose of 5 drops on an empty stomach and then have breakfast..
Works fine for me.

Citric acid can be obtained everywhere: Don't go to the chemist but to a store where they sell stuff for wine making.
Citric-acid is used in many things from homemade lemonade to de-calcifying your coffee-machine.
It is used in winemaking and it also is a very important part of your metabolism.
You couldn't live without it and even if you would swollow a pound you wouldn't even get sick.
Try buying citric acid on-line.
Here in Europe there are many ways to get it and it is very cheap as well.
And I must say: The results with citric-acid are the best.

And as I said: Try to de-calcify your coffeemachine with it or your watercooker.
You will be surprised because they will be as new.:cup::thumb_yello:

Swanny
11-02-2008, 03:06 PM
And as I said: Try to de-calcify your coffeemachine with it or your watercooker.
You will be surprised because they will be as new.:cup::thumb_yello:
Thx for that will get some citric acid.
What's a watercooker?? Do you mean kettle?

Great link Flynt :original:

Peer
11-02-2008, 03:32 PM
Thx for that will get some citric acid.
What's a watercooker?? Do you mean kettle?

Great link Flynt :original:
Your kettle as well.
I mean an electric waterboiler, pardon my english
Poor water in, plug in and it starts boiling

SuperManny
11-02-2008, 03:41 PM
As is typical of all advertised detoxifying herbs and methods, diarrhea is one of the desired outcomes. You know you're in the detoxifying stage when your intestines want to expel whatever was undesirable. Diaper Up. Be happy. It might last two to four days. Get ready. Usually it happens at the 7 to 9 MMS drop level. But your biochemistry is unique to you. You don't know the scope of accumulated toxin-buildup in your body. Therefore, "urgent elimination" could begin at the two drop level. Nausea, however, usually occurs later.Yep thats when it hit me

Ditto here!:trumpet:

Right at 8 drops.:sweatdrop:

Ampgod
11-03-2008, 06:57 PM
UPDATE :

Date: November 3, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)
Current Dose: 15 Drops twice a day.

I have been eating Oatmeal just before the doses.
I sometimes just have about 5 spoonfuls and minutes later take the MMS.
I have not had any nausea or vomiting.
Although, sometimes I do get a bit tired and rest for a hour or two.

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.:thumb_yello:


Live Love and Seek Truth,
Ampgod

Swanny
11-03-2008, 08:25 PM
I had 9 drops this morning but had a dodgy stomach all day so back down to 8 this evening, felling a bit rough and am looking forward to this part passing.
I guess it has a lot of work to do in my belly..:mad3:

alice goes nuts....
11-03-2008, 11:34 PM
bu-hu my mms did not come today, over a week shipping from canada to norway???? so slow....how i hate slow stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wall:

motov
11-04-2008, 04:57 PM
bu-hu my mms did not come today, over a week shipping from canada to norway???? so slow....how i hate slow stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wall:

i orded mine from london friday..havent got it yet but think its right around the corner..... im in Haugesund by the way..:original:

THE eXchanger
11-04-2008, 05:05 PM
i wonder if they will get a DIN / drug identification number for canada ???

i do know, that the # one selling product for neways
worldwide, is a product called mineral solutions
however, by comparison, it is probably expensive

cheers/susan

Sir-Chi
11-04-2008, 07:54 PM
AFTER SATURATING ONESELF WITH INSIGHT FROM THE PLETHORA OF SOURCES I.E JIM HUMBLE HIMSELF AND OTHER FORUMS ....etc ....

We are ALL DIFFERENT ..... remember that first

I'm a massage therapist (going on my 19th yr) and i work for a very high end spa in center city Phila, plus i have a very successful private practice. My partner and I together 14 years with two small children ..... my point is ....
My life is very demanding all in ways i love .... but the MMS is killing disease within ....and taking on an empty stomach during the day can be very tough and discouraging.

I recommend taking at night before you go to bed hopefully hours after dinner.

Because again of my life style .... i'm in it for a long haul so to say. I take 15 drops each night and i'm looking to do this for 1 year. I'm half way there and feeling wonderful ...... i'm turning 40 soon and feeling in my 20s.

Not going to lie to you .... we have a lot of amazing things going on in our home.

Slim Spurling Harmonizer, MerKaBa fields, Orgonites, Tachyon disks, crystals & gems. We drink water from Mt. Shasta and various Emoto type prayed water.
We eat what we can grow, meditate almost daily. We drink Vemma every few days along with mostly green teas. blah bla bla ..... you get the jist ....

The point is .... i feel we are pretty conscious to what is going on around us in the reality and it seems our life is very full of high frequency aspects .... and the MMS is just another wonderful piece in my lifes puzzles.

Most of all the thins i mentioned above and there are lots more toys we play with in our home ..... most of all of them for years .... and continue to gain benifits from all of them at different needed times.

I feel the MMS is something that should be a part of an almost daily aspect of life UNTIL one understand how to activate the DNA .... or really the Codons .... allowing for one to be completely immune to disease .... which is where we are going.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE MMS and have patience ......

to a rise in consciousness
with much,
love, light and laughter
SC

Ampgod
11-04-2008, 10:10 PM
UPDATE :

Date: November 4, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

Current Dose: 15 Drops twice a day.
******************************
(ADDED a mid-day/3rd dose of 4 drops and climbing):thumb_yello:
******************************

NOTE:
I have had on my pinky knuckles, nearest to the palm of my hands, a sort of rough discolored callus spot of skin that is now smooth and not discolored anymore. My wife could not believe it! :)
Might have been a weird small fungus that MMS cleared up for me.

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.

Live Love and Seek Truth,
Ampgod

Peer
11-04-2008, 11:04 PM
i wonder if they will get a DIN / drug identification number for canada ???

i do know, that the # one selling product for neways
worldwide, is a product called mineral solutions
however, by comparison, it is probably expensive

cheers/susan

MMS explicitly states it is not a medicin or a drug!
So no need for this kind of identificationnumber.

Peer
11-04-2008, 11:11 PM
@Sir-Chi: We're colleagues then.
I am just a little older but feeling like a young god.

Swanny
11-04-2008, 11:23 PM
I seem to be past the feeling rough bit now :)
10 drops for me tomorrow morning :cup:

flynt144
11-05-2008, 07:51 PM
Ordered from this site Sunday, goods arrived Weds :original:

http://www.subtleenergytherapyuk.com/UKstore.html

Other suppliers

http://www.miraclemineral.org/suppliers.php

ABHA
11-05-2008, 08:57 PM
i orded mine from london friday..havent got it yet but think its right around the corner..... im in Haugesund by the way..:original:

Hi, do you have a link for the London branch?
cheers:original:

Debby
11-05-2008, 10:24 PM
Hi,
I am recieving MMS on friday and will start taking this. I have alot of health probleems the last years. I have diabetes 1 and have due to this alot of side effects. Heart, nerve probleems in legs, alot of infection probleems with my skin, which I hate cause it is painful and also in my face, always teird and lack of energy enz. So I really hope this wíll help! If somebody can relate to my probleems and have some advice and have good results with MMS I would really like to hear it.
Thanks

ps. sorry for the bad english, I´m dutch

Swanny
11-05-2008, 11:23 PM
Debby you need to talk to Flynt

Hello, Im a friend of Swanny, Im type 1 diabetic and have been taking MMS for four days.
Im Up to 7 drops.
First couple of days my thyroids were painfull buts thats gone.
Now im getting stabbing pains (left kidney,head,ears and eyes),nothing I cant handle.
Best thing is in between the detoxing I feel more alive as if my lungs feel cleaner and making better use of oxygen.
Looking forwards to seeing what will happen in a week or two :original:

peaceandlove
11-06-2008, 05:02 AM
For quite a few weeks I have been hanging at the 11 drop dose. Everytime I try to increase I get queasy and overly tired, so I am going to stay there and take my time. I use the MMS on an empty stomach twice a day away from food. I find that if I take it near food it gives me nausea.

;) Here is another very good article from the internet regarding MMS.

Don't Get Discouraged!

When your problem doesn't clear up right away: Many people call and say, "I've been taking 12 drops twice a day for weeks, but when I go to 14 drops I have diarrhea badly." I always reply that chlorine dioxide is the strongest oxidizer know. And that is all it is. It only oxidizes and nothing else. So if your body has a lot of unhealthy gunk deposited in critical areas that is making you sick, or if it has poisons such as heavy metals deposited, or if there is a heavy load of bacteria growing somewhere, or any other unhealthy condition it will continue to work on that stuff day after day. After all, you are only using a few drops each day, and those few drops only contain a couple of milligrams of chlorine dioxide. You may have thousands of times more stuff that needs to be oxidized than a few drops can handle, but it is working on it. And the fact that you get sick or have diarrhea when you take a heavier dose proves that it is oxidizing the stuff and your body can only throw off a certain amount each day. If you give it more to throw off than it can do without getting violent, then it will get violent. Just keep the dose up just under the nausea level. You will finally get there, but know that it is working as long as it makes you sick when you take too much. When it quits making you sick you will be well. Some diseases allow much heavier loads of bacteria and virus. It can take a while. Don't get discouraged, keep at it.

FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:[/COLOR]

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label, as provided at the website above, when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see past and future posts by peaceandlove for more protocol and usage information.

Ampgod
11-07-2008, 08:21 AM
UPDATE :

Date: November 7, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)
Current Dose: 15 Drops twice a day. Mid-day dose 12
So I'm at 15, 12, 15

NOTE:
I just want to mention that all my life I have had servere Allergies.
Especially in October , November & December. Since diet change and taking MMS I have had no allergies at all. It's amazing. So that is a added benefit I see clearly. I also have been around customers of mine with flu and colds but never caught it. I always used to catch everything!

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.

Live Love and Seek Truth,
Ampgod

Ampgod
11-07-2008, 08:45 PM
I hope the MODS will make this a STICKY. :thumb_yello:

Jenny
11-07-2008, 08:49 PM
I hope teh MODS will make this a STICKY. :thumb_yello:

And watch!
your request is fulfilled...

:wub2:

Ampgod
11-07-2008, 08:52 PM
And watch!
your request is fulfilled...

:wub2:

Thank you very much!
This stuff is for real. :thumb_yello:

Jenny
11-07-2008, 08:55 PM
Yes. I know!

We just got 1 more liter of the stuff.

peaceandlove
11-08-2008, 08:47 AM
;) One explanation of using MMS on Skin found on the internet:

Use MMS for healing sores, burns, wounds, psoriasis, eczema, cancer, ringworm, acne, rashes, staph infections, athletes feet, and a hundred other problems of the skin.

In order to do this follow these instructions:

Obtain a 2 ounce mist spray bottle. Most drug stores sell
empty spray bottles. Put 20 drops of MMS in the bottle and 100 drops of
citric acid and swirl to mix, wait 3 minutes and then fill the bottle
with water. You now have a spray solution that is equivalent to 40 drops
in 1/2 glass of water in strength. This solution stays fresh for about 3
days. The reason it stays fresh for that long is because of the
strength. Once it is diluted in the body it rapidly disintegrates. Or on
the skin, it disintegrates as it drys. Once you have made your solution,
you should spray any sore about once an hour or every two or three hours
all day long. Allow the solution to dry on the sore. In case of a rash,
spray it on the entire rash. Rinse off with clean water in the evening
before bed, dry, and re-spray before going to bed. In case of babies
under 2 years old I would suggest that you dilute the solution at least
twice or start out with only 5 drops of MMS instead of 20.

The MMS in the spray bottle will seldom ever cause stinging or burning
or pain, but it can happen. If it does, pour out 1/2 of the liquid in
the bottle and fill it with water thus diluting by 50%. If it still
stings, do the same thing thus diluting it again. Continue this dilution
until it doesn’t sting.

In one person out of a thousand persons with skin problems, the MMS may
sting badly and the problem will get worse. If this happens it is
probably a condition that you have had for a long time. This is very
rare, but it does happen. Don’t feel badly, there is a cure. Look under
fungus protocol on this web site and follow the instructions. It will
soon be gone.

6-Fungus Protocol

It would have been simpler if MMS had been able to handle everything in the disease world, but there seems to be a fungus that MMS simply doesn’t touch. In fact, MMS seems to feed the fungus. This fungus can occur in the feet. It is not athletes feet, it is much worse. All the athletes feet sprays and powders do not touch it. In can occur on the skin, and it seems to be much worse than any other skin infection. In itches and burns terribly and it appears to be under the skin as well as on the skin. It makes the skin slightly puff up, and it looks bad and it gets worse. It can last for years. I don’t know if it has ever been fatal, but it seems to be very bad and sometimes it can get into the mouth and gums and cause much suffering. It also happens on thehead where it causes havoc.


This particular fungus reacts to MMS with a stinging burning pain. It will almost always be worse after being treated with MMS. Your feet can be so bad that you cannot walk.


Luckily this particular fungus is rather rare. It does not happen in very many people. However, I have included it here as I do not know any other treatment than what I am about to tell of.


So if you have athletes feet that will not go away, or gum disease that MMS will not cure in one week, or skin disease that just can’t be treated successfully, then this is what to do, and don’t worry, it won’t do any harm.


Go to most any health food store and buy a jar of Aztec Clay. In foreign countries they have other clays that will work. Mix this clay 50-50 with Vaseline (petroleum jelly). Then smear it on the various areas. If your problem is in the feet, smear it on the feet and cover it with thick socks. If it is on the skin, smear it on the entire area of the infection. If you do not use the Vaseline it will not work very well. Vaseline makes it contact the skin and tissues and does something that makes it work much better. Only in the mouth would I not use the Vaseline and even there if it didn’t work otherwise I would still use it. Just brush your teeth with the Aztec Clay powder just like using any particular tooth powder. Brush them gently, but three or four times a day.


The fungus infection should clear up in about one week. However, I would keep a light coating on for a month or so. This treatment has helped a number of people so far.


One more thing: There is always the possibility of getting a similar fungus infection inside the body.

If the MMS does not solve this problem, Jim Humble recommends using a Silver Solution of which there is many websites. In my opinion, the FDA approved oxygen-wrapped, nano-particle silver is the most evenly suspended and effective type available.

FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label, as provided at the website above, when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see past posts by peaceandlove for more protocol and usage information.

Debby
11-08-2008, 08:33 PM
peaceandlove,
Thanks for the information. I have infections inside and out the boby. So your post is very helpfull. I'm waiting for my mms, i hope it's here on monday.

peacelovinman
11-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Hi all

My partner and I have been taking MMS for just over a week. I came across it here:

http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4334

My partner has sufferred from a variety of allergies and ill-health symptoms for many, many years - ranging from severe viral infection symtoms to dizzzyness and heart palpitations. Though she has perfectly straight teeth and a smile that could melt the antarctic, she has many mercury fillings. She also had terrible reactions to vaccinations during a childhood and when she was a student nurse.

She has been building up the dose slowly as, right from a 1 drop dose, she experienced the symptoms which told her that the MMS was clearing the **** from her body. However, once these pass, she reports feeling better than she has done for years. She is now up to 5 drops.

As for me, I experienced some tiredness at first, followed by a lovely burst of energy and clear-mindedness (also a burst of sexual energy!). I believe I had a fairly low level of toxins in my body although I'm now up to 10 drops and have felt a bit achy and tired today.

Our intention is to get to 15 drops a day and then drop back to 6 drops twice a week for maintanence.

It's reassuring that we've found something that will keep our bodies healthy and that will kill pathogens, either naturally occuring or otherwise.

peacelovinman
11-09-2008, 10:18 PM
Hi,
I am recieving MMS on friday and will start taking this. I have alot of health probleems the last years. I have diabetes 1 and have due to this alot of side effects. Heart, nerve probleems in legs, alot of infection probleems with my skin, which I hate cause it is painful and also in my face, always teird and lack of energy enz. So I really hope this wíll help! If somebody can relate to my probleems and have some advice and have good results with MMS I would really like to hear it.
Thanks

ps. sorry for the bad english, I´m dutch

My wife suffered from some of the symptoms you describe. Try MMS. Take it slowly at first, be patient, if you are carrying a lot of pathogens it will take a while to pass them out.

Good luck!!

Katherine
11-10-2008, 02:02 AM
Hi all.....

Got my supply last week. No reaction, from starting at 3 drops to now 9 drops. Zip. Nothing happening yet. (???) Keep on trucking....

Anyway....just wanted to ask....has anyone tried this on Morgellans? If you haven't heard of it go to rense.com . Lots of info there. You'll be shocked at how we are being 'infected' with this and just how wide spread this is!! :mfr_omg:

Love & Light
K

motov
11-10-2008, 06:10 PM
just got my mms and are looking forward to start use it as my immune defence are under heavy stress and for those who aske about supply`r her you go http://www.miraclemineral.org/suppliers.php scroll down for diff. country...
cheers.

flynt144
11-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Day 12 and Im up to 12 drops in the evenings.
With the morning dose I've had problems with feeling nausea, was taking 6 drops am until the weekend, then tried 10 drops, decided to skip todays mornings dose to have a restbite!:sad:
Tonight will take 12 drops, tomorrow morning will take 5 drops,Im going to stay on this until there's no nausea:sweatdrop:

Swanny
11-10-2008, 07:45 PM
I'm stuck at 11
Cant be too far from a working toilet if you know what I mean :shocked:
Hope to get past this stage soon, they said it would only last a couple of days but it's been ages. I guess I have a lot of carp inside me :wall:

Debby
11-10-2008, 09:27 PM
here is a link where you can read the book from Jim Humble, this is part 2 but part 1 is also there.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5835640/humble-mms-part-2



Have fun and joy in life

Jenny
11-10-2008, 09:59 PM
I'm stuck at 11
Cant be too far from a working toilet if you know what I mean :shocked:
Hope to get past this stage soon, they said it would only last a couple of days but it's been ages. I guess I have a lot of carp inside me :wall:

Hi Swanny,

go back to 10 drops or maybe 9 or 8 drops...That would be easier to cope with. imo.

alice goes nuts....
11-10-2008, 10:20 PM
JIPPI!!!!!! my mms came today, so i have taken one dose with one drop in the morning and now in the evening 3 drops. No reaction yet, but looking forward to pjuke some paracites....hehehe......:original:

Swanny
11-11-2008, 12:03 AM
Hi Jenny thx I have only taken 9 tonite..

Alice you need to take it steady, no need to rush or you will be rushing to the loo every five mins :naughty:

Ampgod
11-11-2008, 01:13 AM
JIPPI!!!!!! my mms came today, so i have taken one dose with one drop in the morning and now in the evening 3 drops. No reaction yet, but looking forward to pjuke some paracites....hehehe......:original:

Great attitdude! hahahaha :lol3:

I'm sure everyone would want to know peoples purpose for taking MMS.
why are you taking the MMS? Keep us posted.:thumb_yello:

Ampgod
11-11-2008, 01:25 AM
UPDATE :

Date: November 10, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

*********************************
Current Dose: 15 Drops 3 times a day.
*********************************

NOTE:
A little nausea here and there.
I am having a ton of diarrhea (Like water) @ 15,15,15.
Once I stabilized at 15,15,15 I have been generally fine.
I am determined to do this for 2 weeks straight.
Then i will have a test done.
If, at that time, my herpes is still there I will do 2 months straight.
Herpes is one of the toughest viruses to get rid of but it can be done.
Approx. 60% of people can cure it in 1-2 weeks. Some take longer and a small % need intravenous MMS.
Let's hope i'm in that 60% hahahaha:thumb_yello:

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.

Live Love and Seek Truth,
Ampgod

mntruthseeker
11-11-2008, 02:35 AM
Why bother with mms when stabilized oxygen works without acid . no bad taste either. You can take it right
from the bottle and I'm on second day and I feel a big difference. (plus I have been mixing it with absobic acid but read this and don't think I need to do so)

It says that 20 drops will complete sterilize a gal of dirty water in 24 hrs.

I paid 40 for a quart. Not bad and its 28 per cent

mntruthseeker
11-11-2008, 02:49 AM
Debby I sent a message to you and I thought I would also add message here

I was dianosed with neuropathy, RA,tarsal tunnell, corpal tunnell and osteo perossis in my spine....pain pain pain...I was getting accupunture for them all plus on 16 different meds.............I cured all of them with Vitamin D3 50,000 IU twice a week for a month. I am now on maintenance of 1000 IUs a day for life. Thank God, I went to see a new dr that was from India. She noticed that my feet were curved inwards........no more pain is wonderful.......now I am takin chlorine sodium (mms mixed already) for my copd........I went from 4 to 1.5 on my concentrated oxygen for sleep and 2 or 1 level during the day. 2 when I do something. LOVE IT buy some d3 :wink2:

Ampgod
11-11-2008, 02:52 AM
During my journey with MMS I have discovered something awesome.
I feel it needs it's own thread here.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(MMS) Miracle Mineral Supplement has CURED MY ALLERGIES fully! (When using MMS)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have had terrible allergies all my life.
Especially, in October , November & December.
I am taking the MMS currently for a virus but found my allergies have disappeared completely!

PS. Pills are a joke!
Big Pharma... I can't believe I trusted you! Never again!



Peace,
Ampgod

mntruthseeker
11-11-2008, 03:06 AM
Ampgod...............pills and dr's are a joke & costly

Congratulations on the missing allergies. waiting for you final results on the virus herpes...........my son has them...........so he says..........

GregorArturo
11-11-2008, 05:16 AM
All right. So I just read the whole thread tonight, and considered it more relevant than reading the scientific portion (a like a persons voice over say a doctors, does not mean I deny the science), even though you guys explained it pretty well and it makes perfect sense. However, I have two questions. Are all diseases and say negative agents in ones body have a PH of 7 and lower? I couldn't imagine that to be completely true. Also, the notion of it ridding heavy metals seems to be a hard one to grasp. My view is that heavy metals get literally clogged in the system and are really hard to get out. I am a pretty healthy person but have on and off bad allergies. I don't think I have a bunch of gunk in my system but I have a feeling there's definitely some heavy metals.

Also, as I see with Amp God who wants to be rid of his illness completely (and I do not blame him one bit), he's taking quite the regimen. Now, does one have to say exceed 10 drops a dose to reach such effects (aka being completely cured), or does it just speed up the process?

As my interest would probably be taking just a nightly dose, or maybe 6 drops day/night. I have no desire to rush things at all as long as it's pushing me in a positive direction for my body, as long as it may take.

Also, I was wondering if some other more prominent members (big posters) from Avalon could step forward on this (and I mean this is a purely positive fashion). It's a big and lengthy thread but not a huge diversity of members posting. My only skepticism lies within unnatural supplements/medications. And when I say unnatural, this is something humans wouldn't of come into contact readily in their natural enviroment such as say with aloe vera, sea salt, or apple cider vinegar (easily processed and used throughout history).

Otherwise, excellent thread people. I enjoyed the read greatly and the potentials it offers, as my only true miracle pill at the moment are my hands and thought (Good ole reiki :-p). Namaste.

Ampgod
11-11-2008, 05:24 AM
It is for you to decide for yourself. :)

I recommend getting the book and dvd.
This will explain it all in detail.
I believe it will answer many of your questions.

It can be obtained here...

http://mmsmiracle.com/mjmj275

GregorArturo
11-11-2008, 05:51 AM
It is for you to decide for yourself. :)

I recommend getting the book and dvd.
This will explain it all in detail.
I believe it will answer many of your questions.

It can be obtained here...

http://mmsmiracle.com/mjmj275

Thank you Amp God. However, I will be frankly honest. I am a modern day Socrates and don't work. I walk around and try to make people think outside the box while doing the least amount of my studies in school and the maximum amount of studies outside of school. I have $2 to my name, and $50 for information that I can potentially gain for free is how I see best fit to my situation.

My biggest interest is still personal experience (and at the moment I trust Avalon over a posted comment on a website) and for the most part it seems people are in their trial runs with no people confirming complete success results outside no allergies (which sounds absolutely bomb in my book). The implications of this substrate isn't like some vitamin that will just improve daily health, but will supposedly detoxify you of all the poisons in your system and completely eradicate most if not all diseases and infections in ones system.

I've read a ton about ORMUS and all the benefits, but I have yet to hear any completely successful results from people, especially in a mass consensus so I don't touch them.

I don't know the presenters of the information or let's say success stories on YouTube (if there are), but I feel comfortable hearing from Avalon members and their experiences. You guys are like my intangible family of spiders roaming the web together. So, the more free info, the better :)

And on that note, ALL of my knowledge in relation to the entire subjects represented on Avalon (which could be everything except for MTV and Sponge Bob), including my recent works with sacred harmonics ('Cracking the Code') and philosophical treatises which have been published on Avalon, stem out of free knowledge I have gained from my own personal experiences and the internet. I have bought two books at Borders and that is it! (2012: The Return of Quetzacoatal, must buy) I would like to keep it that way :) No one owns information. However, I will gladly dig up the $20 for the bottle of Wonka's magical healing juice. :original:

alice goes nuts....
11-11-2008, 01:20 PM
so today, i was taking 6-7 drops, my second day, and third dose totally....waiting for a reaction!!!!!!

my reasons for taking it is an immuncollapse 25 years ago, when i was 10, this was a vaccine reaction, that left me off with swollen lymphs on ringht side of tha body, hopprible ulcers in the face (herpes or staphylococcus?),
b12 deficency and ekstreme tierdness, i became better over the years, but still never felt the energy really came back, and still have the swollen lymph glands and cords in my right side, the ulcers almost never comes anymore, som they are not a good parametre. but i will hopefulle get back on track soon totally....hehe....keep u informed....i m going for quick reactions....

:thumb_yello:

motov
11-11-2008, 04:04 PM
wow alice your pushing it then...:) im on day two, had one drop in the morning and thinking of 2-3 in the evening....

Swanny
11-11-2008, 06:33 PM
so today, i was taking 6-7 drops, my second day, and third dose totally....waiting for a reaction!!!!!!

my reasons for taking it is an immuncollapse 25 years ago, when i was 10, this was a vaccine reaction, that left me off with swollen lymphs on ringht side of tha body, hopprible ulcers in the face (herpes or staphylococcus?),
b12 deficency and ekstreme tierdness, i became better over the years, but still never felt the energy really came back, and still have the swollen lymph glands and cords in my right side, the ulcers almost never comes anymore, som they are not a good parametre. but i will hopefulle get back on track soon totally....hehe....keep u informed....i m going for quick reactions....

:thumb_yello:
Better make sure you have plenty of toilet roll handy, your going to need it :naughty:

alice goes nuts....
11-11-2008, 06:46 PM
yes...a little "on" here, but have not seen any reaction yet....in the evening i will have smaller dose i think.....

is it normal to take two doses avery day??

Swanny
11-11-2008, 06:48 PM
Yea 12 hours apart :original:

alice goes nuts....
11-11-2008, 06:49 PM
swanny, i read about your reaction, when did it happen, after how many days? and how many drops?

and do u feel better, or just busy ****ting?...hehe....i have tride some stomack cleans before and it ended with sitting on the toilet the whole night.....but then it was over and did not repeat after taking the cleance for a few more weeks.....

Ampgod
11-11-2008, 07:01 PM
so today, i was taking 6-7 drops, my second day, and third dose totally....waiting for a reaction!!!!!!

my reasons for taking it is an immuncollapse 25 years ago, when i was 10, this was a vaccine reaction, that left me off with swollen lymphs on ringht side of tha body, hopprible ulcers in the face (herpes or staphylococcus?),
b12 deficency and ekstreme tierdness, i became better over the years, but still never felt the energy really came back, and still have the swollen lymph glands and cords in my right side, the ulcers almost never comes anymore, som they are not a good parametre. but i will hopefulle get back on track soon totally....hehe....keep u informed....i m going for quick reactions....

:thumb_yello:

I would start with 2 doses a day. go up one more drop at every dose to find your threshold. Then keep going up slow.:thumb_yello:

*remember no vitamin C

alice goes nuts....
11-11-2008, 07:17 PM
but about vit c.....was it not within 4 h before and after.....???....i was taking vit c 1 h ago, and planned to take the mms just before i go to bed (4 h after the dose).....is that ok???

Swanny
11-11-2008, 07:22 PM
swanny, i read about your reaction, when did it happen, after how many days? and how many drops?

and do u feel better, or just busy ****ting?...hehe....i have tride some stomack cleans before and it ended with sitting on the toilet the whole night.....but then it was over and did not repeat after taking the cleance for a few more weeks.....

Started getting a dodgy bum when I hit 8 drops :)
Its not good when your scared to :chuff:
I went up to 11 yesterday but am back down to 9 now, going to stay at 9 for a few days I think.

Peer
11-11-2008, 07:29 PM
Hi Greg,
I like your attitude towards the subject.
Maybe you can find a chemist who can order it for you.
Be sure to order laboratory-quality though and not the technical quality.
It also may come in 25% instead of 28 but it will work just the same, perhaps a bit easier but that is what you want.

If you read the postings of peace&love you will find about all the info you need.
He did a lot of research on the subject (and I am thankfull for that because I was too lazy to do so :original:)

I never expected this thread to have such positive impact when I started it but I am glad it does.
Remember the road back is as long as the road there so you may meet some old distortions.
Don't let them scare you.
nevertheless I would suggest that you push it untill you feel the effects so you knoe where you stand and then do your thing with it.
I take 5 drops now on a daily basis without any negative effect but it keeps my yearly cold from the wet novemberwind away.

But I suppose you can decide for yourself.
Be cool and please keep us posted on your findings.

Peer
11-11-2008, 07:31 PM
Hai Swanny, if it gets to heavy you can also stop for a few days.
No problemo.

alice goes nuts....
11-11-2008, 07:42 PM
hehe....ok i must calm it a little then.....

sammytray
11-11-2008, 07:50 PM
How about "cellfood"

mntruthseeker
11-11-2008, 07:53 PM
Swammy, I heard that the lympnoids along with the lungs were always the hardest hit with clog pores. Therefore the oxygen doesn't flow through so well. my daughter had to have her knee completely replaced and the bone above & below the knee were dead & needed to be scraped ! (I started studying why)

What you should do is drop down on the intake amount of your msm. go slow with it. Take a cloth and soak it with hydrogen peroxide and pat your underarms with it. I have started taking a bath with half cup of peroxide. I have completely stopped stinking LOL. When I was growing up, I never had any problem with BO. The last two years I have suffered tremendously with a terrible ordor. No matter how clean I was. NOW I don't even need deodorant any longer. I just bathe in with added 1/2 cup peroxide in my water It is just another way of opening your pores and sending in oxygen. I was drinking peroxide but found out it destroys the red blood cells so started using the mms solution (chlorine sodium, stabiized oxygen) all the same. If you take a shower afterwards , have a spray bottle of peroxide water to use and use it all over. It is great and you will feel more alive. The water that we are so blessed with is harder on us than merely drinking it. (I do not have a water softner)

:wink2:

I noticed my feet are back to looking beautiful. I don't care who sees my feet now adays

alice goes nuts....
11-11-2008, 10:03 PM
How about "cellfood"



what is cell-food??

sammytray
11-12-2008, 12:04 AM
what is cell-food??




Cellfood FAQ's

* Is Cellfood a medicine?
* What is the shelf life of Cellfood?
* How does the body absorb Cellfood?
* How does it work?
* How is Cellfood different from other so-called oxygen products?
* How do I take Cellfood?
* Can I overdose on Cellfood?
* What happens if I get no results?
* Am I "cheating" if I use Cellfood during sports competitions?
* What if I am already taking medicine?
* Don't see your question here? Ask it!

Is Cellfood a medicine?

No, Cellfood is not a medicine. Cellfood is currently classified as a nutritional supplement.
What is the shelf life of Cellfood?

The shelf life is indefinite. Recent testing of 25 year old samples have demonstrated an improvement in potency.
How does the body absorb Cellfood?

The nutrients in Cellfood are in colloidal form. Colloidal particles are minute (4-7 nanometers in diameter), and because of the Brownian Movement Phenomenon, they take on a negative charge and remain suspended in liquid. Because most bodily fluids are are colloidal and negatively charged, the body perceives Cellfood as normal healthy
body fluid and allows the nutrients to pass immediately through the sensitive membranes of the mouth, throat, and esophagus, directly into the blood stream.
How does it work?

Cellfood enables nascent oxygen to be generated by the splitting of water molecules in the body into atoms of nascent oxygen and hydrogen. In biochemical terms, a newly born singlet atom of oxygen is negatively charged (O-). Free radicals (which many biochemists believe are the primary cause of the aging process and degenerative disease) are positively charged singlet atoms of oxygen (O+). The nascent oxygen atom (O-) is attracted to the (O+) forming a molecule of pure oxygen (O2) at the cellular level where it is needed.

How does the body absorb Cellfood?

The nutrients in Cellfood are in colloidal form. Colloidal particles are minute (4-7 nanometers in diameter), and because of the Brownian Movement Phenomenon, they take on a negative charge and remain suspended in liquid. Because most bodily fluids are are colloidal and negatively charged, the body perceives Cellfood as normal healthy
body fluid and allows the nutrients to pass immediately through the sensitive membranes of the mouth, throat, and esophagus, directly into the blood stream.

http://www.luminahealth.com/products/cellfood.htm

alice goes nuts....
11-12-2008, 12:13 AM
interesting, but what is really collodial....like silver???

peaceandlove
11-12-2008, 12:50 AM
Now, does one have to say exceed 10 drops a dose to reach such effects (aka being completely cured), or does it just speed up the process?

As my interest would probably be taking just a nightly dose, or maybe 6 drops day/night. I have no desire to rush things at all as long as it's pushing me in a positive direction for my body, as long as it may take.

;) Blessings GregorArturo,

What I am reading is that you continue the protocol until you reach 15 drops twice a day WITHOUT nausea (most results were recorded with use on an empty stomach, may need to increase drops over 15 if taking with food).

I think the key phrase is WITHOUT NAUSEA, which means you have pretty much cleared all the pathogens present out of your body.

At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.

The maintenance dosage is recommended as we never seem to be free from the presence of toxins and pathogens in our food and environment.


FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see many more previous and future posts by peaceandlove starting at page #2 regarding protocols.

alice goes nuts....
11-12-2008, 08:04 AM
yesterday had two doses of 6-7 drops, still no reaction, mabye my nose is a little snuffeling, but that the only symptom so far, going up to 8-9 drops today.

i was seeing a youtube film with this doctor that recommands mms, it was interesting, gave me some answears i did not have; like there is a big differece between clorite and clorine, same difference as nacl and clorine, it can not be compared even it har common cl atom, it gave me some relife to see a doctor eksplaining how it works.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1eqTajcpQ

the link is here already i think, anyway, puts it out again....

motov
11-12-2008, 05:08 PM
DAY 3.....2 drop in the morning and in eve, feel sick (nausea) and craping my ass off...lol...:chuff:

Swanny
11-12-2008, 06:02 PM
When I dont feel sick I feel fantastic :trumpet: but most of the time I feel dodgy. :thumbdown:

Going to drop down to 5 this eve and work my way back up again :original:

motov
11-12-2008, 07:27 PM
When I dont feel sick I feel fantastic :trumpet: but most of the time I feel dodgy. :thumbdown:

Going to drop down to 5 this eve and work my way back up again :original:

yey i forgot to say that i feel more energetic tho...:original:

flynt144
11-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Im on 12 drops in the evenings still no problems.
But in the mornings i've gone down to 4 drops and still feeling sick and headaches, gonna ditch the moring dose for awhile:sad:
Its gonna be different for everyone, does it say anywhere to cut back on sugar? I dont see the words if it means I gotta cut out chocolate! :winksmiley02:

Peer
11-12-2008, 08:05 PM
He Flynt, you as a diabetespatient should cut on suger completely as far as I know
It's poison anyway
it's up to you.
Just work your way through it as it sutes you best.
Noone can judge better than yourself.
Peer

flynt144
11-12-2008, 08:56 PM
Hi Peer Im having trouble reading your post, from what i can make out, it seem to be ok to eat chocolate? :nono:

Well seriously though I might take up the challange of giving up sugar?

Peer
11-12-2008, 09:22 PM
All I am saying is that you should take what becomes you, what makes you feel fit and happy.
I know chocolate makes happy. Too much makes you dependent on chocolate.
It releases oxitocine in the brain (kuddling hormone) but you could also release that yourself.
Refined sugar is a poison and the rest that isn't burned by your sytem is a very nasty acid that causes jointpains a.o.
There is a book called sugarblues and it scares the sjit out of you when you read it. It's over 20 years old though so i don't know if you can get it anymore. I know Oprah once had it in her show too.
You cannot buy any packed food that has no overdose of sugar in it.
It sucks away your energy so I will advise everybody to stop eating sugar or at least reduce it to an absolute minimum.
I will not advise it but if you eat half a cup of sugar you get violently ill, producing fever, nausea and a lot more.
Do you know that kellogs contains almost 50% sugar?
But leaving chocolate.....no I couldn't do that to you.

Swanny
11-12-2008, 10:06 PM
The book is still available

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sugar-Blues-William-Dufty/dp/0446343129

alice goes nuts....
11-12-2008, 10:29 PM
day 3; i had 6-7 drops in morning and ca 10 in the evening, still no reaction.....im not that healthy???? no neusea at all!!!!!...strange, i have really been pushing it today...

am i doing something wrong????.....mixing mms 28% with double amount of apple wineger 5%....waiting 3 minutes and mixing with water, half glass i the start, now, full glass.....and drinking it...very quickly...

took c vit 4 h away from mms yesterday, nothing first day or third day.....

Swanny
11-12-2008, 11:23 PM
You need one drop of MMS to five drops of vinegar or lemon juice otherwise it wont activate

mntruthseeker
11-12-2008, 11:45 PM
It took me two hours to find this on the web now. They are removing links and all shipments are being sent from hong kong or china. I couldn't buy it on Jim's site but maybe its just my pc.

Get it now people.......

Swanny
11-12-2008, 11:49 PM
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing
http://www.miraclemineral.org/suppliers.php

mntruthseeker
11-13-2008, 12:33 AM
Thanks Swanny :naughty:

peaceandlove
11-13-2008, 12:50 AM
day 3; i had 6-7 drops in morning and ca 10 in the evening, still no reaction.....im not that healthy???? no neusea at all!!!!!...strange, i have really been pushing it today...

am i doing something wrong????.....mixing mms 28% with double amount of apple wineger 5%....waiting 3 minutes and mixing with water, half glass i the start, now, full glass.....and drinking it...very quickly...

took c vit 4 h away from mms yesterday, nothing first day or third day.....

;) Blessings alice goes nuts,

Please read my posts numbers #113 and #115 on page 5 of the MMS Thread. Be careful about going so fast.

Also, note that Jim Humble says the citric acid is more effective than the apple cider vinegar or lime, lemon juice.

;) FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see many more previous and future posts by peaceandlove starting at page #2 regarding protocols.

peaceandlove
11-13-2008, 01:28 AM
Im on 12 drops in the evenings still no problems.
But in the mornings i've gone down to 4 drops and still feeling sick and headaches, gonna ditch the moring dose for awhile:sad:
Its gonna be different for everyone, does it say anywhere to cut back on sugar? I dont see the words if it means I gotta cut out chocolate! :winksmiley02:

;) Blessings flynt144,

You may find after a while on the MMS you will lose your desire for sugar and chocolate. The sugar is feeding the fungus and the goal is to stop feeding the fungus and your cravings. Many people even lose weight after time.

We Americans are so conditioned to receive immediate gratification. Please realize that trying to speed up the process may cause you many uncomfortable days. It's not about being tough, it's about being wise and patient.

Quoted from MMS Website, Post #66 Page 3:

A few aggressive people have called who felt invincible and who started with five drops and moved up three drops each day. Some people notice no effects of any kind and imagine that "nothing's happening - it's not working" so they leap ahead. How soon the proud are fallen. At low levels pathogens ARE being executed. The elimination systems easily handle the small amount of debris so you imagine nothing's happening.


Consider reducing both dosages, since you are not feeling well. Using it twice a day keeps it in your system and working more efficiently as opposed to using once a day. Some people need to stay at 1 drop twice and day for a very long time.

If you have never detoxed before in your life it may take a while to safely eliminate the pathogens and toxins from your body. There is no hurry when you are detoxing unless you have a life threatening situation.

Once again:

Warning: Statements expressed within any alternative health site have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. Any and all information and/or statements found within this site are for educational purposes only and are NOT intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent disease or replace the advice of a licensed healthcare practitioner.


;) http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Please see previous and future posts by peaceandlove starting on Page #2 for more very valuable and quickly accessible information regarding the safe usage of MMS.

Swanny
11-13-2008, 09:23 AM
Couple of things I've noticed.
I get really bloated after taking my dose, and I didn't have a head ache for about a week which is really unusual for me, but have started getting them again.

Peer
11-13-2008, 01:35 PM
Couple of things I've noticed.
I get really bloated after taking my dose, and I didn't have a head ache for about a week which is really unusual for me, but have started getting them again.

Headache is a major sign of being toxicated (or overstressed but then it's accompanied by cramps).
Having had no headache for a week must have been tremendous.
Getting back the headaches means that you have reached a deeper level.

Pay attention to the joints of your hands and fingers.
They should hurt less in a few days or get suppler.
Drink enough water,

flynt144
11-13-2008, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, will now try 6 drops twice a day and limit the sugar.:lightsabre:

Swanny
11-13-2008, 07:36 PM
Thx Peer :)
Hands and fingers are fine :thumb_yello:

Bought some citric acid today from the chemist, have to look up how to mix it


**EDIT**
Right incase anyone else needs to know.
Here's how to mix the citric acid power.

to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.

Debby
11-13-2008, 08:24 PM
I'm stil waiting for my MMS. I orderd it at a health store, it schould of been there last week friday. This wendsday it finily arrived..... NOT... they orderd MSM:mad3:
So know I bought it from an online-shop here in Holland. I really hope it comes tomorrow. I also orderd Colloidaal Zilver . Is it ok to take this together?
love Debby

Swanny
11-13-2008, 08:59 PM
I have been taking a little bit of colloidal silver as well as the MMS
:thumb_yello:

Julius
11-14-2008, 04:07 AM
I went to the website (Canada suppliers) and it says that Canada has banned mms and cannot be sold...so how I am now suppose to get this stuff? Think I can still order it from the US and have it shipped to Canada (customs confiscation??)

Thanks

Ampgod
11-14-2008, 04:29 AM
I have been taking a little bit of colloidal silver as well as the MMS
:thumb_yello:

Yes, I started to also.
Couldn't help myself.
Once or twice during the week between doses.:original:

My MMS doses are constant @ 16, 16, 16 (No Problems)

Shikasta
11-14-2008, 06:51 AM
Thanks all you guys who've contributed to this thread, it's helped me get back on track with MMS.

Every time I come and read your comments etc it reminds me that MMS is really worth giving a proper trial. Up until now I've bailed out when the going got tough...ie nausea, diarrhoea, and feeling like throwing up every time I smelt anything with chlorine in it (EG TAP WATER!!). It truly tastes disgusting so I hold my breathe whilst swallowing so I don't breath the fumes! After trialling it with fruit juice I found it better to just get it over and done with in 200ml of plain filtered water.

Taking it before going to bed works, a couple of hours before, otherwise I'm up peeing within 2 hours of dozing off.

I've also found it is altering the kinds of foods my body will tolerate without an instant purge!! (eg dairy products if taken too soon after MMS) Others I know who've taken it for long periods tell me their diets have changed as they become more sensitive to less-than-wholesome foods. Does anyone here relate to that?

Anyway, thanks OP for starting this thread.

Graeme

Swanny
11-14-2008, 08:41 AM
I went to the website (Canada suppliers) and it says that Canada has banned mms and cannot be sold...so how I am now suppose to get this stuff? Think I can still order it from the US and have it shipped to Canada (customs confiscation??)

Thanks

Yea just order from anywhere abroad, customs wont check everything and I doubt they would know what it was anyway :original:

alice goes nuts....
11-14-2008, 12:42 PM
my mms delivery was checked, had to meet at custom clearency and show papers about what it was, but it is not illegal in norway, so it was no problem getting it out, but they where curious, it had already been opened...hehe:original:

alice goes nuts....
11-14-2008, 08:55 PM
hmmmm....i think mabye i start having a little reaction, i keep recalling a smell from my sinuses that i had 2 years ago, it was not a serious infection just a little bacterial stuff i keept getting from a man i was seeing at that time, havent had it in between......so mabye my sytstem is takeing care of old infections???

and today i feel a little dizzy....have been taking 10 drops in the morning, and will do the same before sleep.....

Debby
11-14-2008, 09:03 PM
Hi,
My MMS and colloidal silver arrived!!!!:original:
I took my first dose, 2 drops of MMs with 10 drops oActivator. I wait a few days before starting with the colloidal silver.
So I'll keep you guys updated .


Wouldn't be wonderful if my diabetes would be cured....... I think that may be just to much to wish for. Just feeling better and the side effects of diabetes would go would be fine.

Peer
11-14-2008, 10:35 PM
@Grazzab:
yes, I feel my body reacting with rejection to harmfull food. My body is happy not to drink as much beer as I did although that gives me some internal discussion once in a while because I like the stuff.
Nevertheless I gave up drinking on a daily basis and it feels good.

@ Debby: Why not contacted me?
I would have sent it to you here in NL.
Nevertheless you have it and if you read Flynts post you can be optimistic.
Wie weet lukt het allemaal.

Ampgod
11-15-2008, 07:25 AM
Yes! I have found the same thing.
Your body starts telling you that the food you ate that day was not good for you. Helps you start to choose better things. :) :thumb_yello:


I've also found it is altering the kinds of foods my body will tolerate without an instant purge!! (eg dairy products if taken too soon after MMS) Others I know who've taken it for long periods tell me their diets have changed as they become more sensitive to less-than-wholesome foods. Does anyone here relate to that?

Ampgod
11-15-2008, 07:27 AM
Hi,
My MMS and colloidal silver arrived!!!!:original:
I took my first dose, 2 drops of MMs with 10 drops oActivator. I wait a few days before starting with the colloidal silver.
So I'll keep you guys updated .


Wouldn't be wonderful if my diabetes would be cured....... I think that may be just to much to wish for. Just feeling better and the side effects of diabetes would go would be fine.

If you persist you just may get your wish. ;):original:

alice goes nuts....
11-15-2008, 11:55 AM
hmmmm...on 10 drops still....had a little diarrea this morning, and a little sore feling in a gland that i used to have infection in 4-5 yesrs ago.....the sinus "smell" is weaker today....

my conclution is; some stuff is cleaned out or i m having a little bit flu...dont know yet.....but have not had almmost any vit c in this 6 days so it can be that im have some small virus stuff...but i hope it is detox, and **** leving, not coming....:original:

peaceandlove
11-15-2008, 10:14 PM
:D BRUSHING YOUR TEETH WITH MMS

Youtube video shows mixing solution of citric acid, mixing it with MMS and mixing a solution for brushing the teeth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_d7nPvhos&feature=PlayList&p=46E3DBD80304D758&index=0

In the video, he is using 8 drops MMS to 40 drops citric acid for brushing the teeth, but I originally have read using 6 drops MMS to 30 drops citric acid.

I have also read not to keep it in your mouth for longer than 1 minute. If you have receding gums, I would use some caution since the cementum that is exposed when the gums have receded can deteriorate quickly. It is not as strong as enamel. Be sure to rinse your mouth well afterwards to neutralize the acid. (perhaps even add a little baking soda or alkaline medium to stop the acidic action)

This from a MMS website regarding using 4 drops of MMS to 20 drops of citric acid as a toothpaste and wash.

I am asked daily to explain my benefit and the way I use MMS to brush my teeth. I use 4 drops of MMS and 20 drops of citric acid solution, and I let them activate for 3 minutes. I then add a shot glass of water (approximately 1 ¼ to 1 ½ oz. of water.) I dip my brush in the glass with the mixture and brush just like I was instructed by my dentist, brushing up and down and side to side, and working the gum line as well.

I then take a sip of the solution and hold it in my mouth while using a flossing fork, working the MMS down below the gum line where it can get in the root of each tooth.

When I started doing this in February of 2007, my gums were bleeding every time I brushed and my teeth were loose. I had a dentist wanting to pull them all out. He said they were all falling out, and I wouldn't have a tooth left in 6 to 12 months. Within days of using MMS my gums quit bleeding and my teeth tightened up and I haven't lost one since then.

It had been a year before I started using MMS since the last time I had my teeth cleaned, and the plaque had built up so much that every time I would floss, I would have to restring my flossing fork 3 to 4 times as the plaque would cut it just like the serrated edge of a knife. Within 3 months of using MMS morning and night to brush and floss, I realized I only had to restring once every week or two. A year and a half of doing this, I now only have to restring once or twice a month as there is no plaque on my teeth to cut the string and it has been 2 ½ years since I had my teeth cleaned.


FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see many more previous and future posts by peaceandlove starting at page #2 regarding protocols.

sunshineseastar
11-15-2008, 11:37 PM
ciao.....could someone please give some more info on mms and mercury ??
my teeth were full of the ****......but in india i got it removed and replaced.......unfortunatly when iwas having the fillings removed i accidently swallowed some.....ever sins i´ve had some real health problems.........i am a regular faster.......40 - 60 days a year.......from 10 to 21 days each time.......and althought this has helped i still have symptoms that recure when i start eating cooked food.....

Peer
11-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Hi ssss, the metals used for your teethfillings will not dissolve in your body so I suppose they have already left it without you even noticing it.
If you have put the same stuff back in again you are as far from home as you already was.
Get rid of the things because it's 100% poison.
The health problems will not come from those swollowed fillings.
I think you had some bad food overthere which will easily be solved by MMS.
Also the many days of fasting puts a strain on your body.
If you take two periods of 5-10 days per year, in spring and in autumn that should be enough.
Overdoing is never good.
Info on MMS you can find on this thread.
Just start at the beginning and you will find all the info you need.

sunshineseastar
11-16-2008, 12:34 AM
thanks for the info peer.....no i didn´t put the mercury back in ....i filled my teeth with cement.....i got some sodium clorite 25%........1 lt. yesterday......i´m going to start taking it on monday.....one more question....i noticed people are brushing there teeth with the sodium clorite citric acid solution.....i thought citric acid harms your enamel ? i know toothpaste is the worst....i use plain old bar soap to brush.......

Peer
11-16-2008, 12:38 AM
Sodium chloride or sodium chlorite? The first one is plain kitchensalt. Just a typ I suppose.

You will also find info on brushing your teeth with MMS and what to do about the acidity.
Bye the way, where are you?

sunshineseastar
11-16-2008, 12:48 AM
yea it was a typo.....thanks for ponting that out i corrected that.....i travel all over but i´m in europe at the moment...

alice goes nuts....
11-16-2008, 01:51 AM
the problem with mercury fillings are when they are drilling them out, u can inhale the fume, the parts u swallow is more ok......but it is a lot of mercury detox out there....i dont know how effective nat clorite is on it.....but u can use seaplants with iodine also....search the net for mercury and detox...it is alot....and i think sodium bicarbonate/ baking soda is ok to reduce acidity after mms.........

peaceandlove
11-16-2008, 10:09 AM
:D Youtube Video by Dentist showing mercury vapor coming off fillings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA

alice goes nuts....
11-16-2008, 02:51 PM
i had my removed 10 years ago, it was with this special ecuipment, like fume-sucking-thing, the denitist recommanded me to use carbontabelets, and he was also usin this rubber-child around the teets he was drilling. all this made my mercury removal totally "painless", but i had one removed by normal denist, and after that i had a little symptoms, like fever and dizziness the following day.....it can imagine that i wold have been ill if i had everything removed witout protection....some say it is quite dangerous....and i would agree in that statement...

the special equipment is cheap, like 10$ for each tooth, i would recommand paying for this.....:original:

sunshineseastar
11-16-2008, 04:56 PM
hi alice.....well i got all 8 of mine removed at once and filled with cenent...i did not realize the danger....you can´t believe how sick i got ear infections....migrain head achs.....all kinds of pain through the body....liver problem......i wish i would have know befor....i was nieve and thought i just need to get them out.....i had them put in as a child and shortly after started suffering from migrains and the most terrible leg cramps in my shins and feet.......i couldn´t even sleep.......my mother thought i was always faking so i didn´t have to go to school........i´m glad that whole thing is behind me........wish i would have had your advice then.......nd thanks peaceandlove for the video....the world should watch that cause everyone knows someone with that **** in their mouth.........

Swanny
11-16-2008, 06:08 PM
Does anyone know how many drops would be needed to keep a 5 gallon container of water fit to drink???

alice goes nuts....
11-16-2008, 08:25 PM
yes it is sooooo ******* far out that they where filling childrens theets with this ****, and u know most of this fillings started with fissure treatment of the molars, that is not event real decay of the theets....

but the biggest ironi about this; is that along with braintoxity, bonenecrosis and fertilitydamage, mercurys prime target in humanbody is the mouth, it makes theet decay and gum decises....big time!!!!!!....so u can say the dentists made big business out of filling us with this poison....but who can blame them, after breating this **** for years they where idiots!!!!

where in europe are u now?

peaceandlove
11-16-2008, 09:28 PM
Does anyone know how many drops would be needed to keep a 5 gallon container of water fit to drink???

;) Blessings Swanny,

MMS: Water Purification and Fluoride Removal

To Purify Water (including tap water):

One drop of MMS in one gallon of water (with appropriate amount of activator) will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and pathogens from the water. The water will be odor free and drinkable within two or three minutes after mixing.

This drinking water has no health benefits except that heavy metals and bacteria were removed from the water. The gas sacrifices itself and reverts to become a few molecules of water. The gas disappears. JH

Further Notes: In an emergency if you don't have an activator available, you can add inactivated MMS at night and let it sit overnight. The water will activate the MMS slowly over several hours. Again, only 1 drop of MMS per gallon for drinking water is necessary.

For washing fruits and vegetables, use 50 drops of MMS per gallon of water and 250 drops (3 teaspoons) of 10% citric acid solution. Be sure to mix them in a separate, clean glass and wait 3 minutes before putting into the gallon of water. Place the vegetables in the sink, pour the gallon of activated MMS water over them and let sit for a few minutes. Rinse well. This should remove bacteria and help extend the life a little longer.

We emphasize the use of an activator, primarily 10% citric acid solution. If you don't activate the MMS as guided, you will not get the results you want.


FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at authorized website below:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, including worldwide.

~ Click on ABOUT MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download and more information regarding the use of MMS.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Please see many more previous and future posts by peaceandlove starting at Page #2 Post #33 regarding protocols.

Swanny
11-16-2008, 09:53 PM
Sorry Peaceandlove I was being lazy.:original:
So you put the MMS in the container when you fill it with water and the water will stay ok to drink for a long time??

NancyV
11-17-2008, 12:24 AM
I've been taking MMS for 18 days now. It was at about 6drops-2Xday that I began to get very queasy, then at 8drops-2Xday I started throwing up and had diarrhea several times a day. At 10 drops it was so bad that I cut back to 10 drops 1Xday which was bearable. Yesterday I got up to 11 drops-1Xday. When I get up to 16 drops I'll probably go back to 8 drops-2Xday and work up to 15drops-2Xday.

Some of the benefits I've noticed are fewer aches and pains, more alert, better sleep, improved skin, and who knows what little creatures that were lurking around inside my body are being expelled. I assume that since I get so nauseated that's a good thing and will continue to stick it out until the nausea stops completely.

I sent some to a friend of mine who has been a Tai Chi teacher for about 35 years. He's had some very positive results for his teeth, skin and herpes outbreak that was basically reversed by the time he reached 4drops-2Xday. He's very excited about the MMS.

He and I love to research new protocols for self healing and so many times things are so subtle that you don't get immediate or noticeable results. You have to go on "faith" that the claims are genuine. A few years ago I decided if something didn't work within 2 months to a noticeable degree, I wouldn't bother continuing experimenting with it. There is NO doubt that there are immediate results with MMS for most people. The herxheimer reactions I'm experiencing are a great sign that I need to keep doing it.

I've read all the websites, watched all the available videos and read Jim Humble's book in addition to reading testimonials, pros and cons, on many forums. It seems like the only people it doesn't do something positive for are the ones who can't get over the nausea and develop an aversion to the smell and taste that they can't overcome.

Some diseases that seem to be more difficult and take longer to get results from are lyme disease and morgellons, but there are many who at least find some relief with MMS quickly and hopefully it will just take them longer for it to cure those more complex diseases.

I had the occasion to use it for a burn and it worked amazingly well. I used it full strength directly on the burn then washed off with cold water after about 30 seconds. The burn immediately stopped hurting and did not blister as it normally would have done. There was only a small red mark that faded within a few days.

Thanks for all the good info on this forum. MMS appears to be a very valuable healing aid for everyone to have on hand, if just for burns, flu, infections, and dental health.

Nancy

Ampgod
11-17-2008, 07:59 AM
UPDATE :

Date: November 16, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

*********************************
Current Dose: 18 Drops 3 times a day.
*********************************

NOTE:
First off, you must disguise the taste of MMS for sure. HAHAHAHA (I use Odwalla pomegranate juice)
I am entering my second week of 15,15,15 or above in dose.
I have reached a point now that I can take more with no problems at all.
Just for kicks I tried a 20 drop dose to see. I was totally fine.
Diarrhea has subsided.:thumb_yello: (Don't know if this varies in people)
I sort of feel like I reached a point where I have totally cleared my body of everything bad. :) But I don't know for sure. I will keep going for another week just to make sure.

* Working up to 20 drops 3 times a day.
(which is now going beyond the recommended protocol)


I have been around others with bad flu.
I never get sick now while others do!
:thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.

Live Love and Seek Truth,
Ampgod

Scooby
11-17-2008, 09:00 AM
UPDATE :

Date: November 16, 2008
Illness: Herpes Simplex (occasionally appears on lips as tiny blisters)

*********************************
Current Dose: 18 Drops 3 times a day.
*********************************

NOTE:
First off, you must disguise the taste of MMS for sure. HAHAHAHA (I use Odwalla pomegranate juice)
I am entering my second week of 15,15,15 or above in dose.
I have reached a point now that I can take more with no problems at all.
Just for kicks I tried a 20 drop dose to see. I was totally fine.
Diarrhea has subsided.:thumb_yello: (Don't know if this varies in people)
I sort of feel like I reached a point where I have totally cleared my body of everything bad. :) But I don't know for sure. I will keep going for another week just to make sure.

* Working up to 20 drops 3 times a day.
(which is now going beyond the recommended protocol)


I have been around others with bad flu.
I never get sick now while others do!
:thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

I will continue my journey forward while updating in this thread.

Live Love and Seek Truth,
Ampgod

I'm pullin for you Ampgod. I hope you kick that herpes ass!!!

Ampgod
11-17-2008, 09:30 AM
I'm pullin for you Ampgod. I hope you kick that herpes ass!!!

Thank you for your encouragement. :)
I am determined to find the truth on this one.

alice goes nuts....
11-17-2008, 06:20 PM
and finally i have started feelig neusa after 10-15 drops i felt bad, have had a little diarrea since started, but now it is worse.....

so i guess...i m on the right track now....hehe....pjuke!!!!

mntruthseeker
11-17-2008, 09:24 PM
Wow, so many updates and I am getting dizzy trying to see how long people continue to stay sick. I just got the real stuff Sat and I am almost afraid to take it. I hate getting nausua................

Peace & Love

Can you tell me if the sickness goes once your body is "cleaned out" and your just maintaining yourself?

I love my colloidal and its done so much for me, I am hoping that it has already cleaned me out (I am dream :naughty:) Anyhow, I just want to use this to see if I can heal my lungs more. I was told I had very little emphysema now, so Im sure my problem is due to ashma now. I feel the horrible wheezing so often.

You guys are all so wonderful putting down all the info and **** you're going through. It isn't the best reading but it sure is helpful

peaceandlove
11-17-2008, 09:42 PM
Peace & Love

Can you tell me if the sickness goes once your body is "cleaned out" and your just maintaining yourself?

Blessings mntruthseeker,

Good excerpt from an MMS site:

;) Why must I feel sick?

The nauseating feeling that you may experience would be the result of chlorine dioxide encountering, dislodging -- hence the sick feeling -- and then destroying pathogens encountered.

We are generally oblivious of the pathogens that are introduced to our body, especially after they have been stored in the tissue of various organs. Since they build up over time, they generally affect our health slowly and cumulatively.

However, chlorine dioxide takes them out suddenly, which may result in a dramatic reaction. However, it passes in much less time than it took for the toxins and pathogens to accumulate. When the chlorine dioxide goes off, the electron-stripped pathogens cease to exist.

As an example, one will almost always feel ill in hepatitis cases, because the liver is induced to expel stored poisons, which are then destroyed by an army of red blood cells containing chlorine dioxide. It's really no contest. But it doesn't have to be something as acute as hepatitis. Years of leeching from dental amalgams can innocently deposit enough mercury to one's system to steal innocence, rob vitality, and erase precious memories. Dislodging and vaporizing it will feel uncomfortable for a very short time compared to the time it took to accumulate.

If you feel sick when you take this protocol, know that your health and vitality await to rejoin you on the other side of the ill feeling. (You can cut back and go slower to diminish the healing crisis symptoms.)

If it has no close encounters with pathogens, chlorine dioxide deteriorates into constituents that are totally non-toxic. Nothing poisonous is left behind to build up, as is the case with many medical protocols. Medical treatments currently provide you no way of removing the poisons when said poisons don't work. You are left on your own in a strange land and diseased state, without a roadmap back to health.

Nature's chlorine dioxide, on the other hand, lasts long enough to do its job, then that which does not furnish the immune system with needed ions becomes nothing more than micro amounts of salt and water.

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

See more previous posts by peaceandlove regarding protocol and other interesting excerpts from the internet starting on Page 2, Post #33 of this thread.

mntruthseeker
11-17-2008, 09:47 PM
Peace & Love - thank you my friend:original:

I just went through alot more of the postings.

I hope that what Swammy wrote is true.............I would love to get new lung lingings :lmao:

I seen an article saying a cat's tail grew back . :lol3:

Good Luck on growing a new head of hair Swammy

Ok, I am starting this all out now. Thanks you all your wonderful postings, I know I'm in for a treat:tears:

Swanny
11-17-2008, 10:09 PM
Go for it mntruthseeker
I feel happier than I have for years, I don't know if it's the MMS or what, but I'm guessing that clearing the poo out of my body is definately a good thing :thumb_yello:
Not bothered about my hair :naughty:

By the way it's Swanny :original:

mntruthseeker
11-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Well thank you for that Swammy

I just dont want to be one of those old ladies I used to see that would toot with every lift of their legs. What I site that is and trust me, I seen many working in the cities.
You indicated as much already. :tongue2:

I downed a glass of knox gelatin about a month ago and my stomack is tough now

peaceandlove
11-17-2008, 10:24 PM
He and I love to research new protocols for self healing and so many times things are so subtle that you don't get immediate or noticeable results. You have to go on "faith" that the claims are genuine. A few years ago I decided if something didn't work within 2 months to a noticeable degree, I wouldn't bother continuing experimenting with it. There is NO doubt that there are immediate results with MMS for most people. The herxheimer reactions I'm experiencing are a great sign that I need to keep doing it.

I've read all the websites, watched all the available videos and read Jim Humble's book in addition to reading testimonials, pros and cons, on many forums. It seems like the only people it doesn't do something positive for are the ones who can't get over the nausea and develop an aversion to the smell and taste that they can't overcome.


Blessings NancyV,

And thank you. I feel the same way about the immediate results with MMS.
28 years ago I had my eyes looked at by an Iridologist. She told me my colon needed cleansing.

I did the Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management by Bernard Jensen. That involved fasting for 7 days, clay drinks, green pills and two high colonics a day (each one took about 45 - 60 minutes). I was sick (healing crisis) and in bed by day 2 and remained there for nearly 7 days. Strange things came out of my colon, tarry, mucousy, slimy stuff and my skin reeked of smells as the skin was doing it's detox job. But, I felt like a million bucks afterwards and dropped 7 lbs of **** . :shocked:

A year later I visited a different Iridologist as it takes about 6 months to a year for the changes to appear in your eyes. I did not mention anything about the previous Iridologist until she was done and then I showed her my previous iridology eye photos and she compared them to the new ones and remarked how much cleaner my colon was.

Anyway, I feel truly blessed having found the MMS product and it is once again speeding up some healing for me without all the fasting and high colonics, although I think high colonics while fasting are valuable and I recently did one. You can't beat the price of MMS either.

When I started adding the unfiltered apple juice to my MMS 50/50 with water I no longer have that aversion. When I feel nausea or that queasy feeling I just back down on the dosage for a while.

Good luck to everyone, you are blessed.

See many previous posts by peaceandlove starting on Page 2, Post #33 regarding protocols and FAQ.

Julius
11-18-2008, 08:22 PM
I just ordered my supply of MMS.

My father-in-law is 60 years old and has cirrhosis of the liver (cancer). He lives in Mexico. Doctors say that it's at the last stage and even told him, the next time you get sick, it's best to stay home. I don't think he has much time.

He gets sick very often and I'm not sure if I should ask him to try MMS. He feels very weak, eats little and sleeps all day long. He gets water in his liver (if I understood that right) and gets very cranky at times...

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

motov
11-18-2008, 08:37 PM
im at 4 drops and have had nausea but its gone... but still having bad diarea...tho...:wall: and that started at 2drops:mfr_lol: so im in for a tough rise in dose.... :chuff::lmao:

Ampgod
11-18-2008, 08:39 PM
I just ordered my supply of MMS.

My father-in-law is 60 years old and has cirrhosis of the liver (cancer). He lives in Mexico. Doctors say that it's at the last stage and even told him, the next time you get sick, it's best to stay home. I don't think he has much time.

He gets sick very often and I'm not sure if I should ask him to try MMS. He feels very weak, eats little and sleeps all day long. He gets water in his liver (if I understood that right) and gets very cranky at times...

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

All you can do is provide the information and see if they will choose to do something with it. Good luck.

I know a guy with MS and I just went up to there house and made the case for MMS. The wife's response was very interesting. All she could do was complain about what a burden all the diarrhea would be and how "getting him well" would effect her life negatively. So I stated simply ... He can live or die. I told her we can all make excuses or we can educate ourselves and do something about it. I gave them a set of bottles, the Dvd and book to read. At the end of my visit she was very interested and chose to read the book and watch the dvd. I wish them well.

*just wanted to share that story.

NOTE: If this forum goes subscription, as they have stated, next week.... I will not be paying to post here.
If anyone wishes to know of my progress they can email me at...

brichmond9@earthlink.net

Live Love, Seek Truth,
Ampgod

motov
11-18-2008, 09:52 PM
NOTE: If this forum goes subscription, as they have stated, next week.... I will not be paying to post here.
If anyone wishes to know of my progress they can email me at...
i will join you on that...but if i have any questions i will mail you:original:
peace..

alice goes nuts....
11-18-2008, 11:24 PM
hihi, what are u saing??? are they goeing to get payd for us to talk in here...thets almost too entertaing....hehe....who would do that???....and how do they valuate their forum??? i m just laughting.....:lmao:

alice goes nuts....
11-18-2008, 11:39 PM
anyway...here is my staus about mms at this moment......i have a little diarrea after bigger doses...like 10-15 drops...yesterday i had nausea too, but not today, but i will take another dose befor goeing to sleep, my stomack is a little swollen....no more flue signs, and i noticed i have comletely stopped loosing hair....i started lossing hair half year after removing mercury, thats almost 10 years ago....not very much, but as much as i notice if combing my hair....and now i keep pulling...and nothing comes off....very interesting!!! i think this is my first clear productive reaction i have noticed.....:original: started one week ago....and this far it seem like i can tolerate quite big doses, small doses does not work on me,,,and that is strange because i m sensitive t all kind of treatments, almost never takes medicine any medicine, and last time i took a painkiller is many years ago, and 1/4 og recommanded dose worked perfect on me....so why do i need like 10-15 drops of this....strange???

Swanny
11-18-2008, 11:50 PM
Just because taking below 10 drops doesn't make you feel sick doesn't mean it's not working.
You don't need to be sick for it to work :original:

alice goes nuts....
11-19-2008, 12:44 AM
:original:hehe...i know....but it is something about seeing reactions....and i belive that i need to see some stuff happening....or else i just loose faith....restless person....hihi....an other thin that has passed away is haert palpitation....comes and goes,....so not sure yet......

mntruthseeker
11-19-2008, 12:52 AM
Alice you really should check with your physician if you have heart problems. I would not be brave enought to venture on this path if I had heart problems.

somehow, I am sure that the food we eat doesn't help your heart too much either

Good Luck

PS I have seen other medication advertised for diabetics.
that were easier on you then the MMS

Myra
11-19-2008, 01:08 AM
;) Blessings Swanny,

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Hi peaceandlove, please tell me, where did you get the info that MMS removes Fluoride, do you have a link?

Fluoride is one of the higher Halogens therefore very hard to get rid of. Chlorine (or Chlorine Dioxide) is a lower Halogen and because of this I don't believe it can remove Fluoride.

I read Jim Humbles 1st book. Please send me a link that states it removes Fluoride I would like to see it. Thanks! :original:

mntruthseeker
11-19-2008, 02:30 AM
Ampgod & Swammy you have an update on your progress at this time? Glad to see you are up to 16 drops Ampgod, but any health results yet?

Thanks

peaceandlove
11-19-2008, 06:07 AM
Hi peaceandlove, please tell me, where did you get the info that MMS removes Fluoride, do you have a link?

I read Jim Humbles 1st book. Please send me a link that states it removes Fluoride I would like to see it. Thanks! :original:

;) Blessings Myra,

It's very simple to find that information just google MMS Fluoride Water Purification. The information I posted was quoted from one of those websites you will find easily. The directions do not offer an explanation to your question. Although one site states 1 drop off MMS with 5 drops of Citric Acid to purify 1 gallon of water and another site states 2 drops of MMS with 10 drops of MMS to purify 1 gallon of water.

I've already been digging into why there are two different protocols.

Here's a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide

Right now I am trying to find the chemistry answer to your question which is taking some time, but I hope to find what you and I would really like to know and that is HOW it works to remove fluoride from water.

Does Jim Humble have a phone number you could call? Or do you have a chemist friend that could answer your question? I am not a chemist, just pasting information from the net to the forum.

One thing I do know is there are different levels of fluoride in the water of different cities and probably on different days. A water purification unit I use now once was able to state in their literature that their system removed fluoride. I bought the system and 3 years later they were no longer able to state in their literature that the filtration system removed fluoride because their studies were based on a specific level of fluoride which is not always the same in different locations.

I guess we know there is all kinds of false information on the internet as has been posted many places on this forum.

We definitely need to question everything we read or hear; The Truth Has Proven Itself To Be Very Precious.

In Search of Truth Go We.