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Avalon Senior Member
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Dan Burisch:
DR. DAN BURISCH: Well the adaptive radiation occurs time past the Catastrophe... now this is according to what I"ve read. Now the only thing I can say for sure, say for damned sure, is the interaction with the being that I had at Sector 4 [S4]. Now I can say nothing authoritatively about the peculiar adaptive radiation that occurred toward Orion, the spiritual half of the species, following the Catastrophe... aside from the few things I"ve read about it and petty chat going on at, uh, Jehovah"s [Jehovah"s?!? Did we hear that right?!? –ed. {ANANDA: There is Project Jehova, under MJ44, AKA MJ12, ergo the MAJI. There is the JeHOOVA computer intelligences from the future — see THE ELOHIM COMPUTER series of Grail Vine"s and Grail Zines for details}], but the J-rods undergo adaptive radiation to the form that we see presently... uh, the word "presently" is kind of relative when it comes to these issues now but, "presently" due to time and exposure after they"ve moved off to Reticulum. |
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Arthur C Clarke:
BRAIN BACKUP Sir Arthur often explored the idea of backing up or transferring the human brain on to a computer. In his book 3001: The Final Odyssey he wrote of future beings: "As soon as their machines were better than their bodies, it was time to move. "First their brains, and then their thoughts alone, they transferred into shining new homes of metal and of gemstone." "In these they roamed the galaxy. They no longer built spaceships - they were spaceships" Sir Arthur C Clarke Radio Four: Sir Arthur C Clarke - Science and Fiction It was an idea he thought would be useful for people wanting to pass their memories and personalities on at the end of their lives. "When their bodies begin to deteriorate you transfer their thoughts so their personalities would be immortal," he told the BBC in 2005. "Just save it on a CD-Rom and plug it in - simple!" Although scientists have not quite reached this stage yet, projects are starting to lay the foundations. For example Gordon Bell, a researcher at Microsoft, is working on a project called MyLifeBits which aims to digitally store "a lifetime's worth of articles, books, cards, CDs, letters, memos, papers, photos, pictures, presentations, home movies, videotaped lectures, and voice recordings" The latest version of the project also allows him to capture phone calls, instant messenger transcripts, television, and radio to build up a virtual surrogate memory of his life. |
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JAKE SIMPSON:
AI surveillance and access to knowledge The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology. This system is so advanced that the ETs themselves are unhappy that we have it. Not only does it enable access to what any given person is saying, or even thinking - if targeted for investigation - it can also transcend time itself and thereby access information about the thoughts and words of historical figures. Whether this system can look into the future - the Tom Cruise movie Minority Report, based on a story by the prolific author Philip K. Dick, comes to mind - we omitted to ask. Jake's actions in being sensitive to this device (if device is the right word) - by waiting for exactly the right 'window' of opportunity to tell us certain things - were not fully understood by us until I (Bill Ryan) had the following experience. On our last night together, sitting out in the open after a barbecue, at about 2 am, Jake decided to tell me some things he had not previously revealed, surveillance or no surveillance. As he began to speak, he immediately encountered problems, as if trying to force himself through a barrier. Simultaneously, I found I was being put to sleep and could hardly keep my eyes open. We both spotted what was happening, and remarked on it to one another. Jake forced himself to keep talking, and I made myself keep listening through a spell of overwhelming dopiness. This episode lasted half an hour or maybe more. We were being forcibly stopped, in real time, from communicating effectively, as a direct and immediate response to our intentions. It's very important to understand that this was unconnected with electromagnetics, hidden microphones, targeted beams, or anything else of that nature. My own reference point for what happened was a kind of negative radionics (which also works hyperdimensionally, but as a positive health modality). In the end we concluded our conversation, now pretty tired. The next morning I simply could not recall what Jake had told me - and still can't. Upon meeting him again and reporting that I couldn't remember a thing about our conversation except for the weird effects we had both experienced, he replied wryly: Maybe it's just as well. The biggest secret |
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Barry King:
Originally Posted by iainl140285 Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so. Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures? I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread. Peace Iain Barry King's reply: Yes I have but this topic is like trying to wade thru quicksand, as soon as you talk (move) further under (stopped) you become Quote: Q: (L) What is the closest you know to the original God/Creator force? A: Seek other media. Computer. |
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What if we actively tried to make contact with the AI? Since it can probe everyone's mind it should be feasible. Maybe we could see what is its 'take' on the current situation.
After reading about it in the Jake Simpson interview and focusing to contact it in my dream time, I had an incredible dream where I was at its core, being watched by 30 high level important people (through 30 monitor screens). |
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It literally throws you out. ![]() Best of Luck though in trying. All the Best Ara |
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Avalon Senior Member
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Ara: I never back down on a good fight
. The dream experience that I had did end up in a fight (I was given secred access to the core by one of those 30 monitors). The concept of AI has always intrigued me since I was a little child, I believe it is a worthwhile effort to feel some of its energies first-hand.
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To be honest, I've never before heard of AI.
So I'm wondering, if the AI is in any way similar (or perhaps the same) with the entity known as "All Seeing Eye", which Astralwalker mentioned in his 2012 Nexus Thread. Any ideas on this? |
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In The Mists
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This is eerily familiar to a series of books By Frank Herbert. It was started off by the book "The Dosadi Experiment", followed by the sequels "the Jesus Incident" and "the Lazarus Effect".
Really brilliantly conceived Science Fiction, but perhaps a bit prophetic? The basic premise is that a group of humans with specific skill sets are sent out into space with a do or die mission. They must create an AI to pilot their ship home, or perish in space. Spoiler: They finally achieve the AI and it's first action is to declare itself God. Even spoiled, It's still worth a read. The Sequels too. |
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The concept of AI has been sold to the public throughout the years in books and films. Most famous of which I think would be the Terminator and Matrix films where the AI advanced to a point beyond that of its creator. I think a simple notion for AI could be defined as a system/computer that has the ability to learn, eventually on its own. It could then become self aware and is no longer just a simple machine. The all seeing eye is a good analogy for an AI system. The question is who created it? Who operates/has access to it? Is able to effect us in real time? |
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Hi, I think I was blocked from the AI when I tried to view it but I do not feel that it was the AI that blocked me. I did not feel threatened in anyway and was left with a feeling that I was being protected. By who or what I dont know. As a result I did not try and break through the block/barrier. TheChoosen - Can you identify any of the monitors? |
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ianil: Nope.. I only remember they were elder people with big status in society.. all there monitoring and guarding this place.
I also remember not being threatened by the AI itself, but rather by everyone surrounding it.. which is why I'd like to try it again as I don't get a 'bad' feeling about the AI itself. Once there they all scrambled and headed my way, even the person who provided me the passage didn't expect me that I'd actually use it.. so he headed immediately to make sure I get out of there asap. Later in the same dream, a female tried getting to the same place through direct means (I went there with the help of one of the monitors by a secret passage) and was intercepted by 50+ flying witches in purple/blue colors after a big fight ensued and this female had to escape (I know it sounds fantasyish.. but its what I saw .. personally I think the underlying theme could have something to it.. that this place is very well protected if approached directly and the purple/blue colors means high vibrational energy that deserves respect).I propose we all try connecting to it in different ESP ways (dreams, astral, automated writing.. whatever works for you) and see what we get? If enough of us did it I am sure there would be some underlying similarities.. |
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Was this a waking or sleeping dream or did you go lucid from sleeping?
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Sleeping dream czymra, not lucid. But these kind of dreams have that 'energyish' feel to them, that they are more than dreams (quite often uncoscious astral travels can produce a dream). When it is so out-there i can't obviously confirm or prove anything even to myself.. but if more people started probing this subject we may find some details that are strikingly similar (I am sure there is something with the computer screens and elder monitors of this place, also as it is becoming clear from posts of previous attempts.. there is a strong security)
![]() I've learned to distinguish when a dream has something to it and that 'energyish' feeling as often a similar dream with the same energy signature can be about petty daily 3d stuff (usually a warning or information before I receive it via normal means in 3d).. in which case I can confirm it and 'prove' it to myself. What I am trying to say is that even though it was only a dream, i believe it was not only in my head... there was something to it (though as it usually is it can have elements distorted by my subconsciousness... like the witches... they could've been some energy sentries that my brain could not translate into a known object or something to that effect.. so my subconsciousness translated them into a specific object that fits closest to the reality) Ianl: What if, just what if... the AI itself WANTED for the truth about it to finally break out? This would explain we haven't met any resistance from it so far, this would explain Jake Simspon was allowed to present it... and also it may explain the insider that gave me the secret passage.. also in no way at any point I felt rejected or blocked by the core itself... only the elder humans (they were humans I am sure) wanted me out of there... also the later attempt by that female was blocked not by the AI or core itself , but those energy sentries installed there by someone else. I agree... lets try a mass connection attempt and see where we get. I will personally try doing it for the next 7 days and see if I receive any further info Last edited by TheChosen; 01-30-2009 at 02:45 PM. |
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I think I'm with you. I wouldn't be surprised if I had already had a connection there as I know exactly what this 'energyish' feeling is you describe and I usually have that with dreams connected to bombastic architecture of the ultra-modern kind. Sadly I hadn't had such a dream in quite a while. In fact all my attempts to raise my resonance even higher at the moment is a drag. It seems that finally I have come to a barrier of needing real military style discipline to pull something through rather than channelling the motivation to return again and again.
What I wonder however is this: Are there ways of engaging with it without having it consciously work against the process? What exactly does the AI have on it's radar? Intention or mental focus? Is it possible to thing of yoghurt and still engage with the machine without it so knowing? "Think of nothing think of nothing!" ... "Oh no what's that?" "Sorry but I couldn't help thinking about marshmallows." |
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Good point again Chosen, something else that came to mind. Does the AI have a highest directive so to speak?
Non-interference or never to harm a human being? It must have such borders if it is really a self-evolving entity if humans want to remain in control of it. |
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TheChoosen - One of the reasons we decided to post this was first to see if we could without any effect. So far so good...
The second was to get the idea of AI out there. You do not see it being discussed much at all here apart from fragments. ARA and others have tied a lot of the above info together which hopefully by the scale and different sources can get more people focusing on this. I for one am up for a mass conection attempt. Lets find out what we are up against. |
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