Lucifer: Deity of the Elite

soapcrates · 09-25-2009, 11:55 PM

Gahhh! this discussion is to cyclic - i is heading in a circle and the circle has a distinct inward focus - the idea is to look outward - to expand and to explore in order to grow and evolve. you have brains - you need to be using them for more than doorstops, or you is gonna be on the lunch menu!

The outmoded belief systems of the last 2 thousand years are largely constructs put there with one purpose in mind - to keep you running in circles! yes there is an entity called lucifer there is also an entity called Jehova - who is another et who wants a piece of the action and has been dabbling in this planet for well over 2000 ears- the current socio economic nightmare of the wester world was largely his doing and was intended to facillitate exactly what it has - humans have no controll over their own governance and no idea what is going on - it was a masterpiece of socio economic an religious sabotage.

is there a god ? which god who is right and who is wrong? follow any of these religions - pick one at random, it doesnt matter which one , because in choosing oyu have guaranteed that this group is "right" and that group is "wrong" you have created conflict and doubt - another war! just what we need!

IF you really are so insecure that need a god - then lets say it is omnipotent and created everything in which case all religions are right and all positions are appropriate to the people who maintain them , wether they are for satan, Alllah, jesus [poor sod that he was!] or mickey mouse.

it makes no difference.

no self respecting god in its right ind would make a race of beings , set them at each others throats and then demand that they all obey it , worship it,and spend their time ridding the world of all the other s that it created just to prove tha tany one aspect is right its what is technically called ludicrous.

if u want, i can spend some time going through each and ever deit and destroying them for ou, from mohammad who went round shagging eight year old girls to the christian god who likes creating all these other religions so the christiand can go declare war on them and invent new and unique ways to kill them or in the cas eof Wtches, new and usually perversely sexually oriented ways f torturing to death the only real healers accessible to the populace at the time and so on and so on.

If you want t explore their origins and real identities then that s more fun and more productive since most of your gods the ones that arent completly made up - are from way off planet and arived here to get a finger in the pie of a very nice piece of galactic real estate.
problem is, you're supposed to get the hints and go investigate this so you can realise it for yourselves. that what you can understand it and recognise the truth of it - follow the technology train through the babylonians, sumerians, Ancient egptians - from lemuria to atlantis to egpt, greece and the rest of the world. trace sacred geometry back to its roots and have a real close look at it. you can find all kinds of stuff. including technology way beyingd what we have now.

but go beyond even that and you will find that the universe is an illusion. it doesnt really exist - never did.

all tha exists is perception - yours. and the consensus conciousness applicable t our chosen 3rd dimensional realit - that of the human race. we built this illusion - the so called "Gods" just dropped a few viruses into the program for heir own benefit.

Start by truly understanding einsteins theory of relativity - not just what it is but what it imples [which is way more important!] then go read "the hollographic universe" by Talbot. and study Schroedingers cat, then "resulting" and then put them together. yo might also read and try t understand orchaos look it up on google].

what we suffer from is fear ad doubt -most of which were programmed in. what we need to do - especially now - is to get rid of those, accept responsibility for our ow actions - including shaping the world we live in, changing it to wha tit should be.

if ou really want a religion, choose one that does not take away your power - i would reccomend the American indians.

Anyhting that detracts for you is bad - no mater how good it may seem. the power is yours to create or destroy dont give it away. The one spirit is enough fo any one we are all one and each as much the god as the next. inlcuding JC whose actual teachings said exactly that. no temples no priests no organised religions - as is fitting for a holder of the christ ray - which is what he was.

We are here - now at arguably the most important point in history - this is the pinch in the hourglass - this is wher the future fate of humanity and of all hte tings that depnd on it [and there are many] will be determiend; fo good or bad.

THis forum and the people who have been drawn to it an make a real diference to the outcome. there are sufficient people on here to change the balance irrevocably. But you have to pick up the torch and run wih it. One of the things Collier said was tha tthe androedans and many of the other extra terrestrial races now gatheirng arounfd the earht regard humanit as a kind of spiritual royalty and this is true. bBecaue that is what we are - what oyu are - If yo want to quote scripture - do it fro the right reasons. it is basiclaly sa lod of junk, from where we are now. it is a conglommeration of anecodtal remeniscences - stories, myths and legends. half forgotten fragments of history all glued together - a lie made out of the semblance of truth but some of it is decipherable - if oyu look at eh king james version of the chrisitan bible for example, oyu will see that when god chucks adam and eve out of the garden, he apparently says it because they have eaten of the tree of life, and htey have to go "lest they eat also of the tree of knowledge and become as us"

tere is no mention f a tree of life in christianity; nor of a tree of knowledge and who exactly is "us" the cluse are there. Islam is even more abstract but anyone who goes around quoting things really aught to be aware of the origins of wht they quote and islam has he same roots as christianity and they both go back to the jews. to one specific jew to be precise, and the books of the jews go back to the essenes [at least some of the do] and he name of the jewish god is.....?
and he rason fo rthe fall was that good ole satanwoldnt bow down before us pink munkies. nd he idnt like us because we had soemthing he didnt. IN fact, we had and still do have, everthing the angels have, PLUS the ability and the power to create - i refer you back to Schroedinger and EInstein.

DONT answer this. go and have a real careful think. do some reading. then do some more thinking. consider this a benevolent riddle - a zen koan for you to solve, and when you think yo know what i am really saying - not the words on the page but the truth beyond them, then come back and answer this.

I will give you one piece of help with the riddle. any answer that takes you less than an absolute minimum of 112 hours of solid thinking is wrong. i guarantee it.

09-25-2009, 11:55 PM	#11
soapcrates Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 38	Re: Lucifer: Deity of the Elite Gahhh! this discussion is to cyclic - i is heading in a circle and the circle has a distinct inward focus - the idea is to look outward - to expand and to explore in order to grow and evolve. you have brains - you need to be using them for more than doorstops, or you is gonna be on the lunch menu! The outmoded belief systems of the last 2 thousand years are largely constructs put there with one purpose in mind - to keep you running in circles! yes there is an entity called lucifer there is also an entity called Jehova - who is another et who wants a piece of the action and has been dabbling in this planet for well over 2000 ears- the current socio economic nightmare of the wester world was largely his doing and was intended to facillitate exactly what it has - humans have no controll over their own governance and no idea what is going on - it was a masterpiece of socio economic an religious sabotage. is there a god ? which god who is right and who is wrong? follow any of these religions - pick one at random, it doesnt matter which one , because in choosing oyu have guaranteed that this group is "right" and that group is "wrong" you have created conflict and doubt - another war! just what we need! IF you really are so insecure that need a god - then lets say it is omnipotent and created everything in which case all religions are right and all positions are appropriate to the people who maintain them , wether they are for satan, Alllah, jesus [poor sod that he was!] or mickey mouse. it makes no difference. no self respecting god in its right ind would make a race of beings , set them at each others throats and then demand that they all obey it , worship it,and spend their time ridding the world of all the other s that it created just to prove tha tany one aspect is right its what is technically called ludicrous. if u want, i can spend some time going through each and ever deit and destroying them for ou, from mohammad who went round shagging eight year old girls to the christian god who likes creating all these other religions so the christiand can go declare war on them and invent new and unique ways to kill them or in the cas eof Wtches, new and usually perversely sexually oriented ways f torturing to death the only real healers accessible to the populace at the time and so on and so on. If you want t explore their origins and real identities then that s more fun and more productive since most of your gods the ones that arent completly made up - are from way off planet and arived here to get a finger in the pie of a very nice piece of galactic real estate. problem is, you're supposed to get the hints and go investigate this so you can realise it for yourselves. that what you can understand it and recognise the truth of it - follow the technology train through the babylonians, sumerians, Ancient egptians - from lemuria to atlantis to egpt, greece and the rest of the world. trace sacred geometry back to its roots and have a real close look at it. you can find all kinds of stuff. including technology way beyingd what we have now. but go beyond even that and you will find that the universe is an illusion. it doesnt really exist - never did. all tha exists is perception - yours. and the consensus conciousness applicable t our chosen 3rd dimensional realit - that of the human race. we built this illusion - the so called "Gods" just dropped a few viruses into the program for heir own benefit. Start by truly understanding einsteins theory of relativity - not just what it is but what it imples [which is way more important!] then go read "the hollographic universe" by Talbot. and study Schroedingers cat, then "resulting" and then put them together. yo might also read and try t understand orchaos look it up on google]. what we suffer from is fear ad doubt -most of which were programmed in. what we need to do - especially now - is to get rid of those, accept responsibility for our ow actions - including shaping the world we live in, changing it to wha tit should be. if ou really want a religion, choose one that does not take away your power - i would reccomend the American indians. Anyhting that detracts for you is bad - no mater how good it may seem. the power is yours to create or destroy dont give it away. The one spirit is enough fo any one we are all one and each as much the god as the next. inlcuding JC whose actual teachings said exactly that. no temples no priests no organised religions - as is fitting for a holder of the christ ray - which is what he was. We are here - now at arguably the most important point in history - this is the pinch in the hourglass - this is wher the future fate of humanity and of all hte tings that depnd on it [and there are many] will be determiend; fo good or bad. THis forum and the people who have been drawn to it an make a real diference to the outcome. there are sufficient people on here to change the balance irrevocably. But you have to pick up the torch and run wih it. One of the things Collier said was tha tthe androedans and many of the other extra terrestrial races now gatheirng arounfd the earht regard humanit as a kind of spiritual royalty and this is true. bBecaue that is what we are - what oyu are - If yo want to quote scripture - do it fro the right reasons. it is basiclaly sa lod of junk, from where we are now. it is a conglommeration of anecodtal remeniscences - stories, myths and legends. half forgotten fragments of history all glued together - a lie made out of the semblance of truth but some of it is decipherable - if oyu look at eh king james version of the chrisitan bible for example, oyu will see that when god chucks adam and eve out of the garden, he apparently says it because they have eaten of the tree of life, and htey have to go "lest they eat also of the tree of knowledge and become as us" tere is no mention f a tree of life in christianity; nor of a tree of knowledge and who exactly is "us" the cluse are there. Islam is even more abstract but anyone who goes around quoting things really aught to be aware of the origins of wht they quote and islam has he same roots as christianity and they both go back to the jews. to one specific jew to be precise, and the books of the jews go back to the essenes [at least some of the do] and he name of the jewish god is.....? and he rason fo rthe fall was that good ole satanwoldnt bow down before us pink munkies. nd he idnt like us because we had soemthing he didnt. IN fact, we had and still do have, everthing the angels have, PLUS the ability and the power to create - i refer you back to Schroedinger and EInstein. DONT answer this. go and have a real careful think. do some reading. then do some more thinking. consider this a benevolent riddle - a zen koan for you to solve, and when you think yo know what i am really saying - not the words on the page but the truth beyond them, then come back and answer this. I will give you one piece of help with the riddle. any answer that takes you less than an absolute minimum of 112 hours of solid thinking is wrong. i guarantee it.