Continental Congress 2009

[Spiralmind]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Did you see the Closing Ceremony last night? It made me cry.

I guess you might call it a recess, because they've only just begun.

I believe they are going to continue their work by conference call. I hope they are public. I don't whether they will be or not.

I anticipate that there will be a website set up. And I suspect that it will be called Articles of Freedom.

I thought I would start a new thread for it. Or would you like to?

Be my guest....

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Spiralmind

Be my guest....

Okay.

I'm looking forward to reading the Articles of Freedom and getting started with the next phase.

Thanks so much for posting. Overall it's been kinda lonely for me on this thread.

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Overall it's been kinda lonely for me on this thread.

I've been glad you are posting information about this Congress, right from the start! I haven't watched all the video coverage, but if there's time, I would like to. All this reminds me of the 2000 elections - which tactically maybe gave GWB (that and the cheating) a win, i.e. lots of people who are interested in neither major party, like Ron Paul now etc.

WIKI RE 2000. Attorney and political activist Ralph Nader ran as the candidate of the Association of State Green Parties and his running mate was Native American activist Winona LaDuke of Minnesota.

Originally Posted by Seashore

A delegate just expressed concern that he could be declared a terrorist and be sent to jail.

This is actually funny. It's probably true Lots of 'terrorists' now ... lol

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

I've been glad you are posting information about this Congress, right from the start! I haven't watched all the video coverage, but if there's time, I would like to.

no caste,

I wish you were an American so that you would have standing and could be one of the those citizens who support the Articles of Freedom and what the delegates have done by taking part in the recommendations they have put together.

Thank you for your interest.

Is there an equivalent movement in Canada?

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Seashore

no caste,

I wish you were an American so that you would have standing and could be one of the those citizens who support the Articles of Freedom and what the delegates have done by taking part in the recommendations they have put together.

Thank you for your interest.

Is there an equivalent movement in Canada?

Your government will just have to invite me in! Actually our CDN Ambassador, Gary Doer, is a really good guy.

We are going through A LOT right now. Torture allegations in Afghanistan, kind of lined up with US national security and intelligence, a sneaky SPP/NAU Prime Minister, weak Liberal Opposition, a very steady NDP party and another party that represents French Canada (Bloc Quebecois). There's hand wringing about our Constitutional monarchy, since the Queen is getting on and many wonder about succession. Her head is on our coins, everything is very integrated with the UK monarchy, legally, constitutionally, historically. A republic is on the table for a lot of people.

Provincially, there's a new populist movement in Alberta. We have 10 provinces and 3 northern territories. On the whole, the four parties seem to work for most people, I think. There was a big merger in 2003 between 2 conservative more rightish parties, Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservatives (like Reps), in order to avoid split votes - the Liberals (like Dems) have suffered on account of it.

BUT - there are A LOT of accountability issues with this merged Conservative bunch IMO, stinky. Unfortunately, it all translates to national political apathy too, i.e. voter turnout's been waning, and the really excited people aren't much represented in government.

PS We have Communists, Marxists, Independents too!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

Actually our CDN Ambassador, Gary Doer, is a really good guy.

I don't know what "CDN" stands for.

Originally Posted by no caste

There's hand wringing about our Constitutional monarchy, since the Queen is getting on and many wonder about succession. Her head is on our coins, everything is very integrated with the UK monarchy, legally, constitutionally, historically. A republic is on the table for a lot of people.

I have never understood the justification for the expression "Constitutional monarchy."

It's called an "unwritten Constitution," right?

Isn't that laughable?

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I don't know what "CDN" stands for.

CDN = Canadian. We use that for currency too, like US$ or CDN$/ CAN$.

Originally Posted by Seashore

I have never understood the justification for the expression "Constitutional monarchy."

It's called an "unwritten Constitution," right?

Isn't that laughable?

Well, I think your Civil War got rid of it. I have never heard it called 'unwritten' or even a 'Constitution' actually, so that sounds like what a foreign country might describe it as. (?) You'll have to elaborate. We've have quite the job in Canada to keep the US at bay, historically. Canada has a Charter of Rights and Freedoms, that is written into the Constitution of Canada, which is an outcrop of the original British North America Act.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

There's hand wringing about our Constitutional monarchy, since the Queen is getting on and many wonder about succession.

Please explain what the word “Constitutional” means in the above. Does it mean a monarchy that has a Parliament?

Originally Posted by no caste

Well, I think your Civil War got rid of it.

I don’t follow you here. Did you mean Revolutionary War? And if so, got rid of what?

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Please explain what the word “Constitutional” means in the above. Does it mean a monarchy that has a Parliament?

Yes. It's a parliamentary system with the Queen (Elizabeth II) as Head of State. In Canada, we have her representative, the GG (Governor General), who has a mansion in Ottawa, along with one for the PM and one for the Leader of the Opposition. The Queen actually has interceded to Canadians' benefit re a political corruption scandal. Our Senate is appointed. There's talk about switching to an elected Senate. Sometimes I think it's a GOOD idea, maybe build some proportional representation into our system through the Senate.

I don't know how it works in the US, but here a government can be elected with little of the popular vote. Kind of sad.

Originally Posted by Seashore

And if so, got rid of what?

The British. Well, except for the bunch that assassinated Honest Abe Lincoln. (?) Which Knights are those?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

In Canada, we have her representative, the GG (Governor General), who has a mansion in Ottawa, along with one for the PM and one for the Leader of the Opposition.

I’m learning something here. I had never heard of the Governor General.

Originally Posted by no caste

I don't know how it works in the US, but here a government can be elected with little of the popular vote. Kind of sad.

I don’t know about little popular vote, but with our electoral college, the candidate can win the popular vote and lose the election. I think I’ve got that right, speaking from memory of past elections…

Originally Posted by no caste

The British. Well, except for the bunch that assassinated Honest Abe Lincoln. (?) Which Knights are those?

Oh yeah – it was the British agents who stirred up the Civil War because America was becoming too prosperous and unmanageable? The slavery issue was actually waning in the States and would not have caused the war had not the British meddled?

One thing I’ve learned about Abe Lincoln in the last 3 years or so is that the “Great Emancipator” is a misnomer. He was not passionate about ending slavery; all he wanted to do was preserve the union. I think he emancipated the slaves so he could use them as soldiers…

[Seashore]

I emailed my (voting) delegate, Tom DeWeese, regarding the status of the Articles of Freedom. A committee is working on completing the document and the website to view them is:

http://www.articlesoffreedom.us/

This is actually the CC2009 website, so evidently there will be no separate website set up for implementation of the Articles.

(And evidently there are no plans for conference calls at this time.)

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There is also The Tenth Amendment Center for people who want to help restore our God-given freedoms that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

There is also The Tenth Amendment Center for people who want to help restore our God-given freedoms that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Here is a new thread to track this initiative:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17867

[Seashore]

America, The Beautiful

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

America, The Beautiful

YouTube- America, The Beautiful : Ray Charles '91

Sing it, Ray!!!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Sing it, Ray!!!

This song is primarily about the beauty of the land, but I like it because I associate it with liberty and due process.

[TheObserver]

We're any lefties involved or was this a conservatives only party?

[no caste]

Originally Posted by TheObserver

We're any lefties involved or was this a conservatives only party?

Nope, no lefties. They really hate lefties - homosexuals, godless types, tree huggers, peace activists, journalists, welfare bums, criminals, drug addicts ... don't go to church.

(I'm kind of simplifying )

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

Nope, no lefties. They really hate lefties - homosexuals, godless types, tree huggers, peace activists, journalists, welfare bums, criminals, drug addicts ... don't go to church.

(I'm kind of simplifying )

no caste,

You're always good for a good laugh!

[TheObserver]

Originally Posted by no caste

Nope, no lefties. They really hate lefties - homosexuals, godless types, tree huggers, peace activists, journalists, welfare bums, criminals, drug addicts ... don't go to church.

(I'm kind of simplifying )

That's shamefully UNamerican of them, why do they want to hate people?