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Old 12-25-2009, 09:41 AM   #1
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Did you know Ra was merged with the god Horus as Re-Horakhty who was then later identified with Amun as Amun-Re?

Ra was Amun-Re or Ra.

I prefer Ra for some who have seen me see a living sun. Anyhow..I digress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

Ra (also spelled Ré) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the fifth dynasty he became a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun, with other deities representing other positions of the sun. Ra changed greatly over time and in one form or another, much later he was said to represent the sun at all times of the day. The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought if not a word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to 'creative'.

The chief cult centre of Ra first was based in Heliopolis (called Inun, "Place of Pillars", in Egyptian), where he was identified with the local sun-god Atum. As Atum he was also seen as the first being and the originator of the Ennead, also consisting of Shu and Tefnut, Geb and Nut, Osiris, Set, Isis and Nephthys. (See Ennead for more information about this grouping.)

In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Re-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). When his worship reached this position of importance in the Egyptian pantheon, he was believed to be in command of the sky, the earth, and the underworld. He was associated with the falcon, the symbol of other sun deities who protected the pharaohs in later myths. After the deities were paired with pharaohs, the children of Hathor were considered to be fathered by Ra. Still later, he was identified with Amun as Amun-Re.

During the Amarna Period, Akhenaten suppressed the cult of Ra in favour of another solar deity Aton, the deified solar disc, but the cult was later restored.

The cult of the Mnevis bull, an embodiment of Ra, had its centre here and established a formal burial ground for the sacrificed bulls north of the city.

In the later myths Ra was seen to have created Sekhmet, the early lion-headed war goddess from Upper Egypt, who became Hathor, the gentle cow goddess, after she has sufficiently punished mankind as the avenging Eye of Ra. This changed the themes of much earlier myths into aspects of Ra and he was often said to be the father of both Hathor and Sekhmet, as well as brother to the god Osiris. Afterward, nearly all forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra alone, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names and eventually humans were created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra."

Isis mother of Horus and daughter of Geb and Nut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis#Mythology

When seen as the deification of the wife of the pharaoh in later myths, the prominent role of Isis was as the assistant to the deceased pharaoh. Thus she gained a funerary association, her name appearing over eighty times in the Pyramid Texts, and she was said to be the mother of the four deities who protected the canopic jars—more specifically, Isis was viewed as protector of the liver-jar-deity, Imsety. This association with the pharaoh's wife also brought the idea that Isis was considered the spouse of Horus (once seen as her child), who was protector, and later the deification of the pharaoh.

See the convoluted connection with Ra becoming Re-Horakhty and then Amun-Ra and Isis with her then son Horus who later becomes her husband?

Talk about convoluted patterns.

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The Falcon....ahhhh That would make you her counterpart

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Old 12-25-2009, 09:49 AM   #2
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The Falcon....ahhhh That would make you her counterpart
What?

I see you edited the post I just quoted. I thought the falcon ahh? Was there more to that?


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Old 12-25-2009, 09:51 AM   #3
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:53 AM   #4
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Uh huh. Isis. I always see them together.



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Old 12-25-2009, 09:57 AM   #5
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:58 AM   #6
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She has Falcon Wings

Yes she does and there is also a sun above her.


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Old 12-25-2009, 09:59 AM   #7
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See the falcon in her wing in this picture?
And the sun above


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Old 12-25-2009, 10:01 AM   #8
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See the falcon in her wing in this picture?
And the sun above



There are many like it. It isn't the first I've seen. I should say there are other Isis pictures I have seen with the sun paired with her.....


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Old 12-25-2009, 10:03 AM   #9
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There are many like it. It isn't the first I've seen.


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Yep....I just happen to like that one...it's my fav
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:07 AM   #10
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Yep....I just happen to like that one...it's my fav

I haven't seen this particular one before until now but it is a very nice one.


Gotta love the convoluted connections.

Hrm. Have I established myself as being nuts yet?


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Old 12-25-2009, 10:09 AM   #11
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I haven't seen this particular one before until now but it is a very nice one.


Gotta love the convoluted connections.

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Yep...gotta love it ...convoluted connections
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:10 AM   #12
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Hrm. Have I established myself as being nuts yet?


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Absolutely.....hahaha
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:13 AM   #13
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Absolutely.....hahaha
Ah thanks. Twernt nothing.

Think I'll scare everyone away now?


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Old 12-25-2009, 10:14 AM   #14
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Ah thanks. Twernt nothing.

Think I'll scare everyone away now?


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I'm still here...but I tend to do that too....scare them away that is

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Old 12-25-2009, 10:15 AM   #15
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I'm still here...but I tend to to that too....scare them away that is

I think some people might think I'm here to...challenge them or something. Why bother? I prefer sensible discourse and dialogue. Meaningful conversations are better.


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Old 12-25-2009, 10:18 AM   #16
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I think some people might think I'm here to...challenge them or something. Why bother? I prefer sensible discourse and dialogue. Meaningful conversations are better.


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Exactly...unless they offer you a radiant zone with all the fixings......I'll challenge that any day ...and you know what I'm talking about
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:28 AM   #17
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Exactly...unless they offer you a radiant zone with all the fixings......I'll challenge that any day ...and you know what I'm talking about

One person there didn't seem to like answering my questions much. I feel less negative energy on the board now than there was then. The more I cleared it..the more it seemed to coalesce...

Didn't you notice the weird vibes all over the board?

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Old 12-25-2009, 10:32 AM   #18
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One person there didn't seem to like answering my questions much. I feel less negative energy on the board now than there was then. The more I cleared it..the more it seemed to coalesce...

Didn't you notice the weird vibes all over the board?

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Yep...I did see that...and yes...it should calm down soon though, I hope anyway.

I'm learning to just try to get past it....stick with what I know. And let the rest fall to the floor.

As in the posts above....I did as you did, and that is all you can do
Or I should say//on the other page....
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Yep...I did see that...and yes...it should calm down soon though, I hope anyway.

I'm learning to just try to get past it....stick with what I know. And let the rest fall to the floor.

As in the posts above....I did as you did, and that is all you can do
Or I should say//on the other page....
Actually I was being rather serious with my posts about Ra and Isis. :P


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Old 12-25-2009, 10:39 AM   #20
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Actually I was being rather serious with my posts about Ra and Isis. :P


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Me too I just have to keep my eyes open for the Goddess
Now that I know she is around

She's always been around. I just don't address her.

Shoot. Hi-jacked again.

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Old 12-25-2009, 10:55 AM   #22
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So I wonder, what roll does she play in the scheme of Amen Ra?...and the convoluted connection to Ra is what I am wondering. Why has she shown her self here, and now?
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Old 12-25-2009, 11:07 AM   #23
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So I wonder, what roll does she play in the scheme of Amen Ra?...and the convoluted connection to Ra is what I am wondering. Why has she shown her self here, and now?
This is the only place she's come to. It's just that I doubt anyone has ever noticed.

Well now. Merry Christmas to you and hope you have a wonderful day.

I think it is about time to make like a ball and bounce out of here.

ShooooOOoot. More thread hi-jacking. >.<

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Old 12-25-2009, 10:39 AM   #24
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Yep...I did see that...and yes...it should calm down soon though, I hope anyway.

I'm learning to just try to get past it....stick with what I know. And let the rest fall to the floor.

As in the posts above....I did as you did, and that is all you can do
Or I should say//on the other page....
I meant before I left there was more negativity on the board. I am glad to see it isn't as prevalent now. Not sure what was going on back then but all of the nicer folk sort of went poof or at least it seemed like a lot of them went silent.

Uh oh...I've hi-jacked the thread. Oops.

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Old 12-25-2009, 10:45 AM   #25
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Hijacker

Actually....it goes with the thread....and the flow of the information. It seems to get derailed here form the intent a bit....it is about Amen Ra..and you were right on the money
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