Densities Question

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I feel rather confident in my developments, specifically those expressed. I also understand in areas in which I could use improvement, or as I see it: Balance within one self.

Your inner guidance and your own feelings are always your best guide, and I promise you that whatever path you choose, there will always be those who will attack it and try to fault it, so don't let that sway you and simply be your own guide.

Having said that, I certainly commend you for choosing the teachings of the Law of One, because it's certainly not the easiest or the simplest path. Like [you mean to tell me that even the most negative beings can ascend too??] etc.

I've been a seeker all my life, and I haven't found anything more original or that resonates with me more than the Ra teachings. I even rejected it at first, but it just kept my interest. As for the different densities, the way I understand it (in the LoO) is that they are largely compatible with the more commonly used term "Dimension" with us being in the 3rd, going to the 4th and then on up to the 7th, with the 8th one beginning the start of a whole new Grand Cycle as the 1st Density of that Cycle.

There are however many sub-densities within all 7 of the primary ones.

[being]

Also, without intellectualizing the unknown or unverified, where the hell would the human race be today? That's a thinker in itself.

We intellectualize everything because we severed our connection to our being. If you want to understand that you need to study and meditate.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally Posted by being

We intellectualize everything because we severed our connection to our being. If you want to understand that you need to study and meditate.

do you think that studying and intellectualizing serves as meditation? if not why?

what does meditation offer that studying and intellectualizing does not?

[adam]

hello... interesting posts you all have made.... the debate over intelectualization vs. meditative absorbtion is the perfect springboard to discuss densities because what you are all discussing is density...

1st density is physio-etheric matter. crystals are the manifestation of this... contemplate the consciousness of the atom and one will touch the fundamental being-ness of Life. Kriya Yogis call this the "small star". The upper end of this plane is the basic manifestation of plant life, which is the basic manifestation/interaction of solar energy with terresrial energy. Meditation on this, on the nature of plants, how they fix basic elements into higher configurations will yield understanding of how plants evolove.

second density is emotional/astral plane. this plane is very fluid and like the ocean, lower levels of it are "darker" than higher levels approaching the mental plane which is like the air above the ocean. Animals are called 2nd density because they respond and communicate via impressions on this plane. of course domesticated animals are evolving toward the mental plane...

3rd density mental. often associated with solar plexus energies, but this is incorrect b/c all 7 chakras are reflected in the first 3 densities. above the 4th density, chakras lose their significance. i will explain momentarily....

There is a great divide between the lower 3 and the higher 4

The first 3 densities are in fact Cosmic Material, such that the first 3 densities form a greater Cosmic plane themselves. The Ra material is congruent with other teachings on this subject, however some material is more nuanced than others....

4th density. This is the beginning of the Cosmic Astral plane, that whose nature is unconditioned Love-Beingness. This is the plane of the fiery intuition. It, for the yogi, is the unification of the Head and the Heart. When the emotional waters are stilled and the airs of the mind calm, when the tempest ceases to rage, one floats naturally up to this plane.

The 4th density is the great human potential. It is where we as a species are evolving to. And as we are lifted up, the animal kingdom will begin to utilize mental energies. This is evident in the personality traits of domesticated animals. It is also evident in the domestication of plants, e.g. an orchid blooming out of season for the love of its caregiver (movement to 2nd density).

So basically, the human ego-soul construct ceases to exist upon the 4th density/buddhic plane because one has been unified in emotion and mind into the great cosmic rapture of Infinite Love. Individuality is retained, but only insomuch as it is a reflection of a facet of the Infinite Creator, that which One Is, Was, and Ever shall Be. The higher end of this plane, the chakras... the septenary cosmic physical lattice of energies through which Spirit manifests loses its significance as the energies become unified.

Beyond the lower levels of the "4th density" I cannot see, only speculate.

As for intelectualization, it has its place. Those who touch the intuitional plane breathe these intuitions into forms (usually geometric) and manifest them as the abstract thoughts that guide the best and brightest of what human beings create. These abstract thoughts are then dissemiated into concrete level teachings by the intellectuals of the world. Those that learn from them in our colleges and universities then put into practice these concepts all the way through the astral plane (where things are increasingly distorted) until finally reaching physical manifestation through day to day activity.

So everyone here is right in some respect. Each has a piece of the puzzle.

Please forward all questions and/or comments to me privately. Especially if you have issues surrounding what I just posted. Given the move of this forum to subscription, this will probably be my last post.

You may contact me at agnisvatta@gmail.com w/ any ?'s. thank you

[KassandraLoves]

p.s. wheres the eXchanger when you need her?

My post up above was my 88th post and it was the 17th post on here... (1+7= 8) Triple 8!!!!

hahahha, sorry....

[One 66]

KassandraLoves,

I've been keeping tabs on what you've been posting here and on DC.... I like what you've been writing.... and as for what you posted here in this blog, I agree with you 100%

One 66

[KassandraLoves]

Originally Posted by One 66

KassandraLoves,

I've been keeping tabs on what you've been posting here and on DC.... I like what you've been writing.... and as for what you posted here in this blog, I agree with you 100%

One 66

Hey thanks

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by SuperManny

Having said that, I certainly commend you for choosing the teachings of the Law of One, because it's certainly not the easiest or the simplest path. Like [you mean to tell me that even the most negative beings can ascend too??] etc.

I've been a seeker all my life, and I haven't found anything more original or that resonates with me more than the Ra teachings. I even rejected it at first, but it just kept my interest. As for the different densities, the way I understand it (in the LoO) is that they are largely compatible with the more commonly used term "Dimension" with us being in the 3rd, going to the 4th and then on up to the 7th, with the 8th one beginning the start of a whole new Grand Cycle as the 1st Density of that Cycle.

There are however many sub-densities within all 7 of the primary ones.

No, the most negative beings can NOT ascend. The Ra material is quite misleading on that.

But, buried in the Ra material, you will find a weak suggestion that negative STS "6th Density" entities can supposedly "easily" cross over to 6D positive and carry on like nothing happened... Carry on merrily to the ascension. Sort of like a concession on the part of the neg entity that "if you can't lick'em then join'em. This is preposterous. STS neg entities are of a very low vibration and simply cannot abide in the love vibration of higher planes. (above the lower astral).

If it is at all possible for dark astral beings to ascend (those who have not yet run out of opportunity) they must first trace their path back through the physical plane again (through re-incarnation) and confront the karmic weight of their evil misdeeds and serve the people they have harmed. It is a very long and painful road but it cannot be avoided.

This means confronting the evil in themselves and rising above it through service to others. They must serve life to restore balance to all they have harmed and transmute themselves in the process. In order to find the motive power to accomplish all this they will need to seek and find the inner- Christ. The christ- consciousness is the open door to inspiration and the ascension for every soul. There is no back door. "Service to self" can only lead to self destruction.

The Ra material doesn't twist anyone's arm to choose STS as a means to ascension. (It's impossible anyway). But "Ra" does pretend that STS is a valid path thereto. No it isn't.

The "Ra" channellings do not originate from the same Ra that Edgar Cayce referred to in the readings he gave ~ 75 years ago. Unfortunately, Mr Wilcock is mistaken if he believes they do.

In reference to the Cayce readings themselves, the author of the following article competently rejects the link between Cayce's Ra and David Wilcock's assumption that he is dealing with the same source. I made the same case myself on another forum earlier this year and came across this artcle more recently:

http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ar...y=6&article=81

[SuperManny]

Please feel free to think for your self and draw your own conclusions. However it appears that you're presenting your opinion as fact.

I respect your opinions, at least until you mistake them for facts. Study and meditation will reveal to you that there can be a vast chasm of dichotomies between the two.

Originally Posted by milk and honey

No, the most negative beings can NOT ascend. The Ra material is quite misleading on that.

Simply an opinion presented as fact.

Originally Posted by milk and honey

...neg entities are of a very low vibration and simply cannot abide in the love vibration of higher planes. (above the lower astral). If it is at all possible for dark astral beings to ascend (those who have not yet run out of opportunity) they must first trace their path back through the physical plane again (through re-incarnation) and confront the karmic weight of their evil misdeeds and serve the people they have harmed.

Yet another one of your opinions masquerading as fact. According to the Law of One, they can ascend all the way up to the 6th Density of Unity where all contradictions are resolved, and they would simply merge with the rest of 6D, where there is no more STS or STO.

Originally Posted by milk and honey

The Ra material doesn't twist anyone's arm to choose STS as a means to ascension. (It's impossible anyway). But "Ra" does pretend that STS is a valid path thereto. No it isn't.

This is obviously outside of the area that you consider possible, but please understand that your thinking it's impossible does not make it so.

Originally Posted by milk and honey

The "Ra" channellings do not originate from the same Ra that Edgar Cayce referred to in the readings he gave ~ 75 years ago. Unfortunately, Mr Wilcock is mistaken if he believes they do.

I don't suppose there will ever be a way to prove or disprove this, so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

I personally consider the Ra material by Rueckert/Elkins/McCarthy to be every bit as valid, and perhaps even more so than any other channelled source. One reason for this is because of the intimate involvement of all 3 members. 3 are ALWAYS more powerful, and capable of greater things than one.