Anticomuna's rant about being moderated

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

There are many hateable things in the world, but we shouldn't go there and you know why.

My point is, even if Bush is the devil incarnated it doesn't translate directly into "Obama is a saint". What if he is another devil? By the level of good things said around, without any facts to support other than "vibrations" or "star seeds", you see that the expectations of people are way too high.

I just don't want other people to think that I am on the same bandwagon. I am not. And I will wait and see what happens and act accordingly.

"We shouldn't go there"? Let's go. I've packed a lunch for the trip.

And, how do you translate "Obama MIGHT be a positve force for real change" with "Obama is a saint"? I'm not saying he is a saint. Nor am I saying that I know for sure he is a good guy who WILL do positive things. All I know is that if he is on the level, he will be way better than what we have. And we don't know whether he is or isn't on the level.

You are right on one level. "Star seeds" and "vibrations" don't validate his honor and morality in my book, but niether do they invalidate them. Truth is only time will allow us to figure that one out. No one, and I mean no one, has offered any solid proof of Obama's connections to the darker side of our reality. This is one of my biggest points of disagreement with George Green and others - the wildcards can't be removed from the deck. I think Green's experiences from his own past are legit and worth learning something from. But I also believe that George Green conveys a perception of the NWO/Illuminati/"insert theory here" power that is exactly how they would want others to percieve it - as all powerful. Understanding that fact is to understand how the darker side of our reality operates. I would argue that they are not "all powerful," and the key to our success as a species is understanding that fact. Secondly, George Green has been laying what he knows out there for a long time - predating Obama's speech at the DNC in 2004 by several years. Simple fact is, George Green is far enough out of the loop that his comments on today's political dynamic are merely educated guesses based on his past experiences. Such distance makes predicting the wildcards ten times harder (if you're counting cards).

As for the bandwagon you don't want to find yourself riding, I would say, choose your words differently. You may not be riding it, but it is hard for us to tell.

[Truth voice 2012]

Im quite worried about this violent defence of obama and Im very suspicious if their is censorship of opinions on ANY subject manner. After everything we have learned about the nwo to this date suggests that presidents have no real power. I feel I need to point out that EARTH HAS BEEN UNDER THE CONTROL OF EVIL ETs FOR THE LAST 6000 YEARS. What difference does one little president in all this. Sweet f**k all in my opinion. Oh well, If ever we wanted proof of mind control NOW we have it. This "obama can do no wrong" stance makes me feel were losing the battle. I do pray that he is a good man but my gut says no.

Originally Posted by Truth voice 2012

If ever we wanted proof of mind control NOW we have it. This "obama can do no wrong" stance makes me feel were losing the battle.

Has anyone here on Avalon argued "Obama can do no wrong"? I've been paying pretty close attention, and I have not come across a single individual who has said that.

If they did they are wrong. But I don't think anyone here is arguing that, are they? Post a link if they are.

[Truth voice 2012]

Originally Posted by historycircus

Has anyone here on Avalon argued "Obama can do no wrong"? I've been paying pretty close attention, and I have not come across a single individual who has said that.

If they did they are wrong. But I don't think anyone here is arguing that, are they? Post a link if they are.

That wasnt a quote it was a decription of the stance that some individuals have taken regarding Obama. All this "yes we can..." s**t Im seeing around the forum gets me alarm bells ringing.

On the subject of censorship. It shouldnt exist. Truth is everything. the positive AND the negative should both be present other wise there is no balance. Even the knobs leaving nasty messages should be left alone. We are here to experience the duality of this existence or else we wont learn.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Truth voice 2012

That wasnt a quote it was a decription of the stance that some individuals have taken regarding Obama. All this "yes we can..." s**t Im seeing around the forum gets me alarm bells ringing.

On the subject of censorship. It shouldnt exist. Truth is everything. the positive AND the negative should both be present other wise there is no balance. Even the knobs leaving nasty messages should be left alone. We are here to experience the duality of this existence or else we wont learn.

I don't agree with his choice of Rahm Emanuel and I accepted a long time ago that there would be no way that he would be a messiah or perfect candidate.

What I (and others) are merely hoping for is for him to work to destroy the system (PTB) from within. If he cannot do this, then it just means that I (and probably others) will not vote ever again. I am ready to criticize as well and I participate in at least one website where others worked hard to elect Obama. I will not deny this. There are literally millions of Americans like myself who are going to be watching Obama and every move he makes. And, you'd better believe that we will hold his feet to the fire like any other politician. To me, Obama is the puppet of those who worked to donate to him (in small amounts) with hopes and dreams of their own.

I don't know how old the folks that dislike Obama are, but I am not yet at an age where I'd be cranky, bitter and constantly railing against a system that I felt failed me. I am still quite young (27) and you can call me all kinds of names. I'm sure someone called you all kinds of names when you were my age and surely, you must have been just as optimistic as I am. Don't lie to me and tell me that you've always been the way you were. I'm sure 40 years of Republican control have put a huge damper on your spirits.

What you must understand is that there is a generation that refuses to accept defeat like you did.

I refuse to be truly broken. I refuse to accept defeat and "go home". We all can work together to defeat any menace that we wish. What we must do first is learn to respect each other and I can see that this isn't possible with some people. The "sheep" analogy is a good example of just how you can turn people off to your message forever and create nothing but dissension.

And while we're at it, how come no one challenges Ron Paul the way they challenge Barack Obama? How about all of the Paul supporters on here who openly praise the man for being a good soul? I dare you to tell me why I should support Ron Paul over Barack Obama and I dare you to justify your support and respect for him in the same way that you justify your dislike of Barack Obama.

Regardless, Obama is not a messiah but I refuse to believe that he's the anti-christ as well.

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

And while we're at it, how come no one challenges Ron Paul the way they challenge Barack Obama?.

Because for the Americans Ron Paul had to be discredited as a loony and kept out of the news.. (That is exactly what happened.) If one Challenged Ron Paul, He just put out the message as return.. The Message was the Massage, not the gathering around a skin color or a party.

He didn't play "Santa Claus" with promises of all kinds of good things in the "change", That according to Ron Paul, we can't afford. He didn't say that the change we need is some kind of socialist empowering structure to get inline with the worldwide organization of governments, where the government robs from one, and distributes to another.. The only change Ron Paul offered was a change back to follow the constitution empowering the People back to their original places of individual responseblitity... CRAZY.. And according to Micheal Reagan, Everyone thinking that should be SHOT and he would even pay for the Bullets.

Newsflash :
The TItanic has hit a Iceberg,
The Crew and Passengers at the last moment have elected a new man at the helm that will surely save us and our way of life. And if he doesn't save us, he still is Responsible (And because of the color of his skin, Personally Responsible.) for what happens. And the set up is so bad, that he only can fail, unless he becomes WORSE then any white man before him in power..

Hence the buzzwords..
Believe in change (No matter how bad it gets!)
Yes we can (Make this extra sacrifice, what other choice do we have?)

The Americans Failing to massively support (In spite of all the backstabbing by the Political Parties AND the Media.) Ron Paul Or better to Support his message that the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence are in grave danger Have made sure, that the Experiment has Failed. So now we can become one with the global masses.. Handing over unalienable rights, and getting in return "Permissions".

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by historycircus

"We shouldn't go there"? Let's go. I've packed a lunch for the trip.

Well, I surely misjudged you. If you want to hate then go on. Do whatever you want to.

It serves to make clear that Avalon is populated by those who enjoy hate and those who doesn't.

Originally Posted by historycircus

You are right on one level. "Star seeds" and "vibrations" don't validate his honor and morality in my book, but niether do they invalidate them.

What you mean is that we should let the indoctrination go on, unchallenged? Dude, if you want to say he has high vibrations or that he is a "star seed" then you must provide the evidence!

It's not those who disagree with it that must show you that's wrong. Please PROVE us he is all of that!

We wouldn't have this conversation if you were rational.

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

We wouldn't have this conversation if you were rational.

Incredibly well said, I take my leave here good sir.