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Old 11-08-2008, 02:34 AM   #1
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Has anyone here on Avalon argued "Obama can do no wrong"? I've been paying pretty close attention, and I have not come across a single individual who has said that.

If they did they are wrong. But I don't think anyone here is arguing that, are they? Post a link if they are.

That wasnt a quote it was a decription of the stance that some individuals have taken regarding Obama. All this "yes we can..." s**t Im seeing around the forum gets me alarm bells ringing.

On the subject of censorship. It shouldnt exist. Truth is everything. the positive AND the negative should both be present other wise there is no balance. Even the knobs leaving nasty messages should be left alone. We are here to experience the duality of this existence or else we wont learn.
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:22 AM   #2
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That wasnt a quote it was a decription of the stance that some individuals have taken regarding Obama. All this "yes we can..." s**t Im seeing around the forum gets me alarm bells ringing.

On the subject of censorship. It shouldnt exist. Truth is everything. the positive AND the negative should both be present other wise there is no balance. Even the knobs leaving nasty messages should be left alone. We are here to experience the duality of this existence or else we wont learn.
I don't agree with his choice of Rahm Emanuel and I accepted a long time ago that there would be no way that he would be a messiah or perfect candidate.

What I (and others) are merely hoping for is for him to work to destroy the system (PTB) from within. If he cannot do this, then it just means that I (and probably others) will not vote ever again. I am ready to criticize as well and I participate in at least one website where others worked hard to elect Obama. I will not deny this. There are literally millions of Americans like myself who are going to be watching Obama and every move he makes. And, you'd better believe that we will hold his feet to the fire like any other politician. To me, Obama is the puppet of those who worked to donate to him (in small amounts) with hopes and dreams of their own.

I don't know how old the folks that dislike Obama are, but I am not yet at an age where I'd be cranky, bitter and constantly railing against a system that I felt failed me. I am still quite young (27) and you can call me all kinds of names. I'm sure someone called you all kinds of names when you were my age and surely, you must have been just as optimistic as I am. Don't lie to me and tell me that you've always been the way you were. I'm sure 40 years of Republican control have put a huge damper on your spirits.

What you must understand is that there is a generation that refuses to accept defeat like you did.

I refuse to be truly broken. I refuse to accept defeat and "go home". We all can work together to defeat any menace that we wish. What we must do first is learn to respect each other and I can see that this isn't possible with some people. The "sheep" analogy is a good example of just how you can turn people off to your message forever and create nothing but dissension.

And while we're at it, how come no one challenges Ron Paul the way they challenge Barack Obama? How about all of the Paul supporters on here who openly praise the man for being a good soul? I dare you to tell me why I should support Ron Paul over Barack Obama and I dare you to justify your support and respect for him in the same way that you justify your dislike of Barack Obama.

Regardless, Obama is not a messiah but I refuse to believe that he's the anti-christ as well.

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Old 11-08-2008, 09:57 AM   #3
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And while we're at it, how come no one challenges Ron Paul the way they challenge Barack Obama?.
Because for the Americans Ron Paul had to be discredited as a loony and kept out of the news.. (That is exactly what happened.) If one Challenged Ron Paul, He just put out the message as return.. The Message was the Massage, not the gathering around a skin color or a party.

He didn't play "Santa Claus" with promises of all kinds of good things in the "change", That according to Ron Paul, we can't afford. He didn't say that the change we need is some kind of socialist empowering structure to get inline with the worldwide organization of governments, where the government robs from one, and distributes to another.. The only change Ron Paul offered was a change back to follow the constitution empowering the People back to their original places of individual responseblitity... CRAZY.. And according to Micheal Reagan, Everyone thinking that should be SHOT and he would even pay for the Bullets.

Newsflash :
The TItanic has hit a Iceberg,
The Crew and Passengers at the last moment have elected a new man at the helm that will surely save us and our way of life. And if he doesn't save us, he still is Responsible (And because of the color of his skin, Personally Responsible.) for what happens. And the set up is so bad, that he only can fail, unless he becomes WORSE then any white man before him in power..

Hence the buzzwords..
Believe in change (No matter how bad it gets!)
Yes we can (Make this extra sacrifice, what other choice do we have?)

The Americans Failing to massively support (In spite of all the backstabbing by the Political Parties AND the Media.) Ron Paul Or better to Support his message that the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence are in grave danger Have made sure, that the Experiment has Failed. So now we can become one with the global masses.. Handing over unalienable rights, and getting in return "Permissions".

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