What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

[Sanat]

"Doom":

Oh and, one last thing, a little back someone here mentioned there are some “Alan Watt followers” here, and I take a little offense to that as I hold Alan in high regard for helping me to wake myself up, but I am in no way a part of any group, I try to avoid groups because whenever you join a group ultimately you are not the one making decisions for yourself. I am individual and do not follow anyone. While I find Alan Watt to be a great tool to help others, we all know the best tool is one’s own mind, and looking into information for ourselves, making our own minds from studying from original sources and not getting our information through mediums, and if they are going through mediums of any sort such as newspapers etc., we must have the proper knowledge to decipher how trustworthy the medium is and what is truth and what is propaganda etc. Fact is always mixed with fiction and we are lead to be completely confused about what is real and what is not, we must do all we can to sort it out.

You have made your position clear in a polite manner and that is appreciated. May I suggest that you start your own thread offering your services there to those that are attracted to it? Not that you are not welcome here of course, but perhaps it would be more effective to "play your own game" so to speak. Your point is, and has been, that this whole thread is based upon something you do not "buy into". As you say yourself; then we will have to agree to disagree.

No one here is part of any "group" either. You incorrectly percieve me/us as belonging to the "new age religion group" as you call it. I do not belong to any group at all. You say it offended you to be called "Alan Watt follower", yet you do not hesitate to put people into categories instead of seeing them as individuals sharing from their own experience as an individual. Don't you think it can be hurtful to others that you percieve them that way? Imagine the possability that the RA material gave someone the same experience of Awakening as Alan Watt gave you... Even if you think it is BS, as I am sure many think Alan Watt is BS, that does not make it any less real for them (or you). I find that kind of ironic. But hey, that's just me. Anyway, your point is made mr. Doom (mooD?). Despite of that this thread will run its course. We will just have to agree to disagree on that matter. Thanks for your understanding.

btw. Sanat has two obvious anagrams (Satan and Santa = Saint). Both live as potentials in the human mind. It's all a matter of what path each choose to explore. In the end they cancel each other out like matter and anti-matter and only pure energy is left. We see amplified in others what we oppress and refuse to face in ourselves ("before you judge the splinter in your neighbor's eye, take out the log in your own eye"). Yes, we are all here to make the world a better place. But some people choose not to fight fire with fire. I always prefer water when it comes to put out fire myself. I find that most effective. Sometimes a blanket will do also. But water is the best. I have yet to see firemen using flamethrowers to extinguish the fire in a burning building. Perhaps that is what they used on building 7? I don't know. If you don't mind I will stick to water as that is what works for me. Thanks a bunch!

Love,

Sanat