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Old 07-26-2009, 02:05 AM   #1
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This thread is an experiment(aren't they all?)...which includes mostly threads based on videos...or threads which contain many video links...which I have started. I'm not particularly bright or noteworthy...but the videos which I have viewed...especially when viewed as a group...are earthshattering to me. The threads are a healthy mixture of problems and solutions. If you have the time...which is doubtful...please look at all of these threads...and look for commonalities. There is a bit of a theological slant...but certainly not an orthodox or Bible thumping slant. Prepare to be shocked...to cry...to get mad...to be enlightened...and to experience the Eureka Phenomenon!

1. God, Jesus, Satan, Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Amen Ra, Hathor, Abraxasinas, Thubans, et al: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

2. Secrets of the Vatican: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

3. Tell Me Who I Am: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

4. Waco Revisited: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

5. Al Bielek - Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk Project: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

6. Xcon Potpurri: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

7. Kevin Trudeau with Alex Jones - 5-26-09: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...eau+Alex+Jones

8. Red Letter Church: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

9. Reptilians and Mind Control: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

10. 'V' Movie(Series) Revisited: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

11. Jesus: The Last Pharaoh?: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

12. Important Mass Manipulation Video: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

13. 1990's Prophets: Vindicated or Debunked?: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

14. Alien Advice: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

15. Cool Music Videos: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...l+music+videos

16. NASA: Triumph and Tragedy: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ragedy+triumph

17. United Nations Charter: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ht=Shadow+moon

18. In the Shadow of the Moon: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ht=Shadow+moon

19. TWA 800 Revisited: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15187

20. Unique War Video: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14409

21. Bilderberg Video: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12970

22. Dogon Sirius Mystery - C2C: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ighlight=dogon

23. The Point: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...238#post158238

24. The Washington Mutual Story: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...n+mutual+story

25. Oklahoma City Bombing Revisited: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...668#post158668

26. The United States of the Solar System: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878

27. What is Gizeh Intelligence? http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...a+intelligence

28. Called to Be Free - a Video: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...rldwide+church

29. Lucifer: Deity of the Elite: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...179#post163179

30. Tesla: Master of Lightning: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16193

31. Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...729#post165729

32. The Dulce Book: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...075#post167075

33. New World Order: Devil in the Vatican: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...745#post167745

34. The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...lucifer+effect

35. Enron Video: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...040#post175040

36. No End In Sight: Iraq War Documentary: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16897

37. Ted Gunderson Interviews Chip Tatum (CIA, Drugs, Etc.): http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...127#post177127

38. Sirius Issues: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...234#post178234

39. Superimposed Parallel Universes: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...255#post178255

40. Lawyerese Goes Galactic: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...street+journal

41. Stargate SG-1: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17834

42. Amen Ra: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18223

43. The Dark Side of the Moon Mission: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

44. Open Letter to the Beings of the Universe: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...eings+universe

45. Moonraker: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19284

46. Who Are Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer? http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...%2C+lucifer%3F

47. Krlll: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...849#post238849

48. Cartoon Aliens: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...cartoon+aliens

49. Thuban Thoughts: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20379

50. Thuban Thoughts II: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20963

51. Very Cool Short Videos: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...l+short+videos

52. Violent Movies, Books, Games, Cartoons, and Toys: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20849

53. Abortion, Euthenasia, Suicide, and Murder: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20852

54. Prevention is Central to Healthcare: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21143

55. I Have a Dream! Free at Last! http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...981#post261981

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

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Old 07-26-2009, 03:04 AM   #2
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I like how you have packaged these multiple threads on one
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Old 07-26-2009, 03:55 AM   #3
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Thank-you. I found it time consuming to dig up the old threads...and sometimes the search would not produce the long lost threads. Also...there is a progression of thought which has occurred...although some might call it a digression. At this point...I am filled with a mixture of dispair and hope. These threads are not intended to make anyone happy. They are intended to approach the reality of what is really going on in this universe...and then to facilitate the most positive long-term outcome possible...for all beings...throughout the universe. I want to view all of the gory details...and then begin to create order out of chaos...and rise to new heights...sort of like the Flight of the Phoenix.

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Old 07-26-2009, 05:42 AM   #4
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Yup, I agree, this is very worthwhile

If it helps people join the dots as Icke would say, then cant be a bad thing ...

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Old 07-26-2009, 01:54 PM   #5
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Thank-you Anchor. All I can do is point in directions where I see light. I have nothing original...yet I can sense when other people are on the right track...I think. I don't have everything figured out. I'm just stuggling and thinking out loud. One probably shouldn't do that in public...but I don't consider this forum to be public. The groupings of the videos seemed to be important to me. They fit together...and complement each other. The puzzle is quite large and complex. Smoke is just pouring out of my ears.

I just keep hoping that people will be able to adjust to all of the new information without becoming violent or going insane. There is so much upsetting and conflicting information out there. Plus...I believe there is an unseen battle on a supernatural level. We are getting pushed and pulled in all directions...and we all have breaking points. Each person must find their own way in their own time. In many ways...I think the transition is going well. It could be going a hell of a lot worse.

I'm going to go through all of the above threads...and watch all of the videos. The people in these videos are not the last word...but many of them are trail blazers or pioneers who should not be ignored...and who can help us discern the truth or error in subsequent prophets or whistle-blowers. I like to consider information which is at least five years old...in order to evaluate the validity of the then new information or predictions. People need to win my trust. But no one is perfect. Some of my favorites had very serious flaws. I like Bill Cooper a lot, for example...but he struggled with alcohol and temper issues. He was very confrontational with authorities...and sometimes did not know when to stop. In other words...no one should become an idol or a god.

When I listed these threads...I realized that they were not particularly profound...but that they covered some territory which I hadn't found elsewhere on this site. I guess this is just another potential piece of the puzzle...and what a puzzle it is! Good luck everyone!

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Old 07-28-2009, 07:11 PM   #6
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I would love to meet with a group of scholars regarding the above threads...and have a completely blunt...non politically correct...take off the gloves...12 hour marathon discussion/debate. This group might include Jesuits, Alphabet Agency Representatives, Reptilians, Greys, Researchers, Lucifer, etc. Unfortunately...at the end of the 12 hours...I would know way, way too much...and we all know what that would mean. Actually, I would probably be so depressed...that they wouldn't have to do a thing...if you know what I mean. I feel like we are just scratching the surface here in this forum...but we may all need much thicker skin to be able to properly handle the full truth. In a sense...we may need to go to hell...before we can go to heaven. I tend to think that many leaders fear that the human race would go to hell...and stay there if they were told the full uncensored truth. This may be a major reason why there is not full disclosure. There are some legitimate reasons for secrecy...but I think that most of the reasons are evil and corrupt as hell. This forum may be an experiment...to see how non-insiders react or respond to the gradual release of inside information. This may help non-corrupt powers that be to properly introduce the new information to the general public. Just a thought.

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Great list Orothodoxymoron. I will try to get through them all. If I can watch every video on Camelot and Conscious Media Network I can get through all of yours.

The original Flight of the Phoenix was better but I got the drift.
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Thank-you. I love it when they all find out that the aircraft engineer is a toy plane designer!! Surprise! What if the person who has the most to offer to get us out of this mess...has absolutely no credentials or credibility?! Do we evaluate ideas based strictly upon merit...or do we worship titles and resumes? Haven't the experts of the world gotten us into this mess? Why should we trust them to get us out of this mess? What if a being in the form of a young lady...runs the solar system?

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Step right up! Pick a thread! Any thread! But be prepared to have your preconceived notions completely unravel.
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You know...I would love to see a file on my posting activity...done by a seasoned C.I.A. analyst. Maybe someday I will see such a file...in the hands of a prosecuting attorney. I hope not...but these are very crazy times. I have absolutely no idea whether these threads...plus any other postings on this site and YouTube...are in any way, shape, or form...considered to be a problem by any authorities...at any level. I tend to think that so few people view this material...that the effect is really inconsequential. And of those few people...the ones who actually connect the dots may actually be non-existant. But for those in the know...I have a sneaking hunch that they see exactly what I am seeing...and that this composite picture is quite startling...and potentially destabilizing.

At this point...I don't really see what the point of all this really is. I open myself up to being placed on lists of troublemakers. Very few people are influenced. And these few are probably less happy after seeing some of what I'm seeing. So I'm thinking that maybe we really are sheep who cannot lead ourselves...and that efforts to change this may be futile at best...and detrimental and destabilizing at worst.

I keep saying that I am going to take a break...but I just can't stop posting. Well...I'm going to try again.

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I'm trying to take a break from posting...but I just couldn't resist requesting that someone make a critical study of these threads...and issue a verdict. I'm too close to them...at this point...to be objective. They are sort of a road less traveled. Be honest about the overall picture which emerges. Thank-you in advance.

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I'm transmitting a request for help into the vast regions of space and cyberspace...for conversation regarding these threads. Is there intelligent life out there? The threads are very diverse...yet there is a common thread. I'm just trying to figure things out...and I don't have the answers...or even the questions. Again, I'm too close to these threads to really be objective...and I need some criticism...constructive or otherwise. Consider these threads to be Orthodoxymoron University. Upon completion...you will receive a Disoriented to the nth Degree. And you think you have problems now?

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I'm running out of steam (if I had any to begin with). On an ongoing basis...over many months...the subjects and concepts which I am interested in...seem to spark very little interest in others. I can understand this...but I don't know where to turn...to continue my quest...or if I should be a quester at all. Any ideas? If I had lied...and claimed to be a hybrid abductee with all the answers...and dire predictions..complete with dates...there would probably be huge interest! What the hell is going on?
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GOING...Going...almost gone...
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Because the search function continues to be non-functional...I thought I'd bump this thread to see if there are any takers. 'Come into my threads'...orthodoxymoron said to the unsuspecting Avalon members.
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orthodoxymoron, maybe you can make an overview of each thread including input from all who have contributed. Then paste that overview in the top post with all the highlights and titles!
Just an idea...Its a lot to read really with so much new information out there and this would help with may other topics posted here. So that the gems are always handy and when new readers see this it will assist in the overwhelming-ness of so many threads here at avalon...

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Thank-you JesterTerrestrial. I don't know what to do. For now...I'm going on a bump-strke. I'm going to bump this thread every few days until the search function is completely restored! I wanna talk about some of these threads. Maybe I should reincarnate to the forum as a claimed ET from Planet BS...and do a mentoring thread titled 'The New Attitude of Gratitude and Servitude'...full of bs and exotic terminology aka intergalactic mumbo jumbo aka the universal language. Then there would probably be tens of thousands of views and hundreds of comments. Then I could write a book...and move out of this dump. You sneak and peak guys know what I'm talking about. Please flush the toilet next time...

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You know...I would love to see a file on my posting activity...done by a seasoned C.I.A. analyst. Maybe someday I will see such a file...in the hands of a prosecuting attorney. I hope not...but these are very crazy times. I have absolutely no idea whether these threads...plus any other postings on this site and YouTube...are in any way, shape, or form...considered to be a problem by any authorities...at any level. I tend to think that so few people view this material...that the effect is really inconsequential. And of those few people...the ones who actually connect the dots may actually be non-existant. But for those in the know...I have a sneaking hunch that they see exactly what I am seeing...and that this composite picture is quite startling...and potentially destabilizing.

At this point...I don't really see what the point of all this really is. I open myself up to being placed on lists of troublemakers. Very few people are influenced. And these few are probably less happy after seeing some of what I'm seeing. So I'm thinking that maybe we really are sheep who cannot lead ourselves...and that efforts to change this may be futile at best...and detrimental and destabilizing at worst.

I keep saying that I am going to take a break...but I just can't stop posting. Well...I'm going to try again.
I often wonder, just how big my file is in KB/MB, on TPTB monitoring servers.
I'm sure our online activity has flagged us all for observation.

Nice list, thanks for your effort.
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Thank-you. They know more about us than we know about ourselves.

I like to think that we are the best buddies of the non-corrupt powers that be...because we are rationally examining some very controversial subjects...rather than going crazy. I like to think that we are sort of a buffer...which will help to keep society balanced. I like to think that we are a part of a low-key disclosure project...where a lot of the secrets of the universe...and dark secrets...are gradually being integrated into the public consciousness...in an evolutionary rather than a revolutionary manner.

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I'm still looking for unsuspecting mortals to communicate with. I'm just trying to build on what I have examined thus far. I'm not new to thinking about spiritual things and science...but I am new to looking at all of the relatively new information available on the internet. It's quite startling and overwhelming to me. I'm looking for a unified field theory of the alien presence. I have a feeling that when we research everything to death...in a free and open society...we will be astonished at how simple and obvious things will turn out to be. We seem to be presently wallowing in a fog of illusions, smoke, and mirrors. I feel like I'm at sea most of the time. I want things to start clarifying and solidifying...even if I don't like the reality which emerges.

The most important thread to me is the 'United States of the Solar System' thread. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 I'm trying to pull all of the theological and metaphysical stuff into the orbit of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...as a non-theocratic union of spirituality and state. It may seem dry and boring at first...but I think there are a lot of dazzling possibilities in this approach. I'm not a constitutional scholar...but I am sold on the concept of Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I don't know where this will lead...but I am going to attempt to take this concept as far as I can...and hopefully more capable people will take the concept where it deserves to go. I'm just a crazy mixed-up pseudo-intellectual who is trying to find peace and happiness in a very crazy universe. I am completely convinced that facing reality...including the realities of historical atrocities and enslavements...will pave the way for a better universe. We may have to wade through an unbelievable amount of negative material in order to see the light. The threads can be somewhat negative...but there is always an attempt to find solutions and to emerge with a stronger paradigm.

The second most important thread to me is the one on 'God, Jesus, Satan, Lucifer, Etc.' http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron This thread is quite irreverent...but a stronger spiritual foundation is that which is desired. I believe that this thread dovetails with 'The United States of the Solar System' thread. I confess that I am a heretic...but I'm really trying to exorcise the demons from the church and from the solar system. All of the ufo/alien/spiritual/religious/political discussion should be addressed from a theological and constitutional perspective.

So please take a look at both of these threads, if you haven't already...or take another look. Most of the other threads are instructive regarding these two primary threads. Oh what a tangled web I'm weaving...and I'm not practicing deceiving. Just the opposite.

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Hi Orthodoxy - Thanks to our friend, RedeZra I got a link to
a video "Unholy Communion" - Joe Jordan (on YouTube) and
from this a link to the July 2009 Christian Symposium on Aliens.
No material from this on the website, but a formidable list
of speakers. Thought this might interest you.

I am particularly interested in Dr. Michael Heiser, who has a
PhD in Hebrew Bible nd Semitic Languages and has taught and
researched biblical theology and ancient Near Eastern religions.

On the website www.divinecouncil.com he gives excerpts
of his dissertation on "Divine Council" - in which he argues
that the O.T. shows there is a heirarchy of divine beings,
with Yahweh at the head.

My understanding is that the dissertation is still in draft form
and is intended later for a book. The excerpts themselves
take quite a bit of getting through! Can't say I feel o.k.
with all his reasoning, but it is interesting, and, of course,
he is referring to the original Hebrew throughout.

I have been breezing through the excerpts in the hope that
he might address yours, and my problem with the cruel,
angry Yahweh of the O.T. - but so far that has not come up.

However, I am delighted to have found an O.T. scholar
who is prepared to move beyond the normal bounds of
academia. Some of the other speakers listed at the
Symposium will also be worth looking into.

So - there is another something for you much researching!
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Thank-you Noela. The link seems to not be functional. Here is a link which works. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/Intr...cil%20MTIT.pdf Here is a link to a Dr. Michael Heiser interview. http://derekpgilbert.com/?p=3342 It's really quite good. I love this sort of thing! Here is a video of an Old Testament scholar who has a doctorate from the University of Edinburgh...Dr. Alden Thompson. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1344008092279# I have one of his books 'Who's Afraid of the Old Testament God?' He is a very pastoral scholar who presents problems...or hints at problems...and then resolves them in a soothing and pastoral manner. I once told him that I didn't think that Jesus was God. He unsuccessfully attempted to change my mind. I like him a lot...but I am taking a radical surgery approach presently...and hoping that the patient doesn't die while I attempt to remove the theocratic-cancer which I believe is growing on the human race. I am attempting to replace a Universal Church Theocracy with Constitutional Responsible Freedom. I can't be fired for my radical views. My livlihood is not tied to my editorial bias. I think that we need to stop beating around the burning bush. We need to be very, very honest...even if this results in severe pain and suffering. We need to take a swig of whiskey...bite the bullet...and get on with it. Avalon seems to be an appropriate place to attempt this. I would never try this in a church setting. The resulting controversy would be an intellectual and spiritual Armageddon. Check this thread out...regarding a huge controversy within the Worldwide Church of God (I don't just pick on the Catholics!). The video is very well done. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...rldwide+church There is a time and a place for everything. I'm admittedly a pseudo-intellectual bull in a theological china closet...a real loose cannon...armed with a tactical nuke! "Calling all Jesuits! Calling all Jesuits! Be on the lookout for orthodoxymoron! That cursed Judas!"

Seriously...I would love to be present during a top-level Jesuit theological discussion. They fascinate me...and they terrify me. They could do much to promote Constitutional Responsible Freedom...and to breathe spiritual and ethical life into it...once Lucifer (or equivalent) retires...and they are freely able to integrate their discipline, organization, and education into modern life. I'm serious. They know better...but their hands seem to be tied...and they are obedient servants. They need to be free. That's what I think anyway...but what do I know? I don't want the church to disappear. I want the church to be completely reformed and purified. I'm not sure about the details.

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