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Old 12-21-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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"Time seems to stand right still, in a child's world it always will." Moody Blues

It's always right now. Time is an illusion.

Finding oneself at a point in time or in space is illusory.

Boundless consciousness is Reality.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:20 AM   #2
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"Time seems to stand right still, in a child's world it always will." Moody Blues

It's always right now. Time is an illusion.

Finding oneself at a point in time or in space is illusory.

Boundless consciousness is Reality.
If time is an illusion, how do we schedule lunch?
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:29 AM   #3
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If time is an illusion, how do we schedule lunch?
Your being is perpetually a cycle of enormous activity that your mind encapsulates into one thing.

Similarly, the mind encapsulates time into segments.

Most fundamentally, the beginning of my life to the end, equals "my" time.

But it's always right now, in Reality.

Time is similar to a calendar, people agree on the measures, similar to boundaries between nations, the boundaries don't really exist, neither is there a boundary in time.

Reality is boundless and immeasurable, though, infinite in all directions.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:54 AM   #4
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This is why I don't wear a watch... I don't wear a watch yet I'm always early for everything... I usually don't know what day it is because I just count how many days I've worked, then I know I have 3 off and it starts all over. I hate time and I especially hate daylight savings time... Yuck! Such restrictions on my freedom... All of ours really What do you think it would be like if the whole world realized time is irrevelant... but love, understanding, creativity, free energy and true knowledge was VERY relevant? What if you had all the time in the world to do all that you never learned to do? Build a garden, share with your neighbors, travel, learn a trade or skill and again... share with your neighbors... Freedom from our 'timed' schedules to be able to do what we want, when we want because it's abundant and because we can!... We only need to choose a simpler life without time or money. Remember that means no holidays however... No holidays because EVERY day is a holiday!!!
Sorry didn't mean to sound like Obama there with the 'We can!'
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:57 AM   #5
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We think alike on that Angel. It frustrated me my entire life that people had all these set ways of acting on certain days, puppet show stuff...
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:58 AM   #6
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We think alike on that Angel. It frustrated me my entire life that people had all these set ways of acting on certain days, puppet show stuff...
When do trees drop their leaves?

Or is that an illusion too?
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:05 AM   #7
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When do trees drop their leaves?

Or is that an illusion too?
It's always right now.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:06 AM   #8
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It's always right now.
Yes. No illusion there.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:15 AM   #9
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Yes. No illusion there.
Children sense/know the eternity of now, that's why it's SO hard to drag them into measured time.

They are spiritually wise, and the adults beat them into submission, cram them into the "real" world that is phony bologna.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:17 AM   #10
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Children sense/know the eternity of now, that's why it's SO hard to drag them into measured time.
They know when it's lunch time.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:20 AM   #11
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They know when it's lunch time.
No they don't. They know when they're hungry.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:24 AM   #12
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No they don't. They know when they're hungry.
They know when it's time to eat.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:27 AM   #13
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They know when it's time to eat.
You're the same guy that got banned.

they know when they're hungry. Time to eat is a fixed time that has nothing to do with being hungry, unless you happen to be hungry.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:30 AM   #14
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Normally I wouldn't condone feeding the beast here...

However, if a child grows up in the jungle having never known a thing about time.... would he never grow hungry.... No... he would eat when his brain tells him "hey lets get something to eat".... depending on what he ate... it would take a certain amount of energy to digest his food until he became hungry again....

what does any of this have to do with time???

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You're the same guy that got banned.

they know when they're hungry. Time to eat is a fixed time that has nothing to do with being hungry, unless you happen to be hungry.
Who I am in real life is of no consequence to you.

Kids get hungry after enough time has elapsed since their last meal.

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Old 12-21-2009, 08:58 AM   #15
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Kids get hungry after enough time has elapsed since their last meal.
What you say seems more like a coincidence to me.

Actually they get hungry because they ran out of the last lot of food, and the body is ready for more. This can take varying lengths of time.

There may be no relation between this physiology and time. It is quite possible that time is still irrelevant to this process, but we are conditioned to see it as relevant.

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Old 12-21-2009, 07:30 AM   #16
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There doesn't necessarily have to be a 'time' to eat... Just eat when you're hungry. I don't care what time of day it is, sure I'll have breakfast before dark and dinner when I get hungry... which will be later but I never know what time and I don't really care what time... it's when I'm hungry!
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:30 AM   #17
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How come nobody can answer about the swallows or the groundhogs?
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:35 AM   #18
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Personally... didn't think to research it because I highly doubt that groundhogs specifically come out of their hole on feb 2 of each year, but wait I will look it up
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:45 AM   #19
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Here you go... I don't see anywhere where it specifically says Feb 2nd is the day groundhogs come out... I do read that they hibernate for 3 months yes, they also say they wake up early Feb... That could mean the 1st, 3rd or 4th... who knows perhaps depending on the weather it could be way earlier or later... Who knows and who cares, it just happens.
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/...articleid=1043
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:47 AM   #20
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Who knows and who cares, it just happens.
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/...articleid=1043
Yes, it does. Always around the same TIME.

How about the swallows. Did you research that too?
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:49 AM   #21
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Yes, it does. Always around the same TIME.

How about the swallows. Did you research that too?
No, not going to bother cause you aren't understanding me so even if I researched it I know it would be a waste of my 'time'... Although I have no problem agreeing to disagree
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:52 AM   #22
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Scarab is an antagonist, he got banned under another name a few days ago.
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Scarab is an antagonist, he got banned under another name a few days ago.
Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.

I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.

Or is that illusion?
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:58 AM   #24
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Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.

I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.

Or is that illusion?
Oh Scarab... we all have different illusions and yours may not be the same as ours and that's ok... Which is why we can agree to disagree
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:02 AM   #25
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Oh Scarab... we all have different illusions and yours may not be the same as ours and that's ok... Which is why we can agree to disagree
Believe it or not, I have an open mind.

Show me (in simple terms and your own words) how time is an illusion. Please explain how the examples from nature I gave fit into the illusion and also please explain how the illusion applies to the limited days in a man's life.

I do want to learn. It's just that, at the surface, it sounds like bunk.
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