Moderator Election

While all this swastika stuff is fun (nothing like discussing the primary symbol of the world's worst and deadliest political party to add a cheer to the thread), there is something more important and fantastic to discuss:

My candidacy for moderator.

Universal health care for none!

[freekatz]

Originally Posted by historycircus

Universal health care for none!

I was reading through this thread for nothing more than the nonsense entertainment value with no intention of voting (actually I still have none because I really don't care either way).....just have to mention though that the above comment caught my eye and if I were to jump into the fray, I would definitely say no based on that!

I can't believe how many libertarian/republican every man for himself types there are on this forum. Sorry for the labeling (which I hate) but it seems to express my thoughts at the moment.

If we're all about surviving and building a new better world how do you propose doing that if it's dog eat dog survival of the fittest?

Originally Posted by freekatz

I was reading through this thread for nothing more than the nonsense entertainment value with no intention of voting (actually I still have none because I really don't care either way).....just have to mention though that the above comment caught my eye and if I were to jump into the fray, I would definitely say no based on that!

I can't believe how many libertarian/republican every man for himself types there are on this forum. Sorry for the labeling (which I hate) but it seems to express my thoughts at the moment.

If we're all about surviving and building a new better world how do you propose doing that if it's dog eat dog survival of the fittest?

"Universal health care for none" was supposed to be funny because if elected, I would have absolutely no powers whatsoever to create a good health care plan. Just a joke - not a deep statement of political philosophy. I am sorry if you took offense.

I actually support universal health care in the analog world . . .

[Lotus]

It's elemental in child psychology that by ignoring kids acting out and not giving them any energy their behavior tends to change.

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's elemental in child psychology that by ignoring kids acting out and not giving them any energy their behavior tends to change.

Apparently, my attempts at humor have been ill recieved, and for that I apologize. I have a tendancy to let my irreverence interfere with the effective communication of my ideas; let me dispense with the humor and make a serious attempt to re-explain what I'm doing here.

After reading Kerry Cassidy's post on the mods, I did a lot of thinking about recent conflicts between regular posters and moderators, and tried to figure out what, if anything, could ever be done to curb what will ALWAYS be a source of tension on forums like these. I myself have never had any posts edited or bad run ins with the mods - except for Karen yesterday, and that was peanuts compared to some of the mod/poster arguments I have seen. It dawned on me that if one or two of the moderators were picked by the forum members, that could possibly cut down on the mod/poster tension - I don't think anything could ever end it permanently, but moderator elections might reduce it.

Then I thought about getting that idea out there to people, and the first thing I wanted to do was start a thread titled "Should We Have Mod Elections?" Then I realized that that would be yet another thread where we sit around and debate, and argue, etc. I figured rather than start a fight over "should we" or "shouldn't we," I'd nominated myself and plant the seed. Why not? I like Avalon, I think moderator elections are a good idea, and a vote would be fun. I really didn't think there was anything to argue about there - people would come, vote, and maybe post why they gave their yay or nay. Believe you me, I was - and am - prepared for the negative stuff; I know the serious ideas (not the jokes) I have about the issues here on Avalon and Camelot put me in the minority. I just figured there would be nothing to fight about, or get offended over - it would be an up and down vote on the group's confidence in my moderating abilities.

That I will ultimately lose, well, is a given (although winning would be cool too). I guess what is most dissappointing, and surprising given that most here bemoan their lack of a real influence or voice in the power structures of the real world, is the voter turnout. How many thousands of people have accounts here? And only 50 people have voted - a third commiting to the useless options? This experience, at least slightly, harkens back to the comments I made on another thread earlier this week (or possibly late last week); much of the lack of power we have over the real world's socioeconomic systems is our own fault - the PTB have enjoyed increasing, unbridled power because of our own apathy and real world inaction. Many would blame the NWO for the world's problems; I think we should blame ourselves.

The course this thread has taken is not exactly what I envisioned when I started it, but it is the poll that is worth it all. If you don't want to post here, at least vote. If you don't want to vote for me, get together via the PM system or the private boards and figure out who to nominate, and put them to a public vote. I second the nomination of both eXchanger and the Flyingpyramid.

Again, I think that having one or two mods out of the whole group come from the main body of posters is fair, potentially calming, and just a good idea. They should also be term limited seats.

I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone in any way, and I hope this sets it right.

[Dean Plejaren]

eXchanger. I would have you mod right now if it was up to me who runs what. All exchanges I had with you so far have being nothing but insightful.

[Dean Plejaren]

Dan Dan Dan please don't be so upset all i said was check your info before opening that great big m__th of yours .Dont worry look at it as a learning curve i was merely stating that the swastika was not a symbol of evil it is a symbol of great power found in almost ancient culture in its clockwise and anticlockwise forms and its a symbol that far predates Hitlers abuse of it .

Yes Dan.....That is correct you do need to think more before you post. Now I made a poll for you and totally blew you out of the water maybe you can create a poll and see who wants YOU to go and stay. lol. I wonder if the results will be what you assume, as they were not exactly what you assumed about me with my poll.

All this is helping us get a reality check. That is all.....

[Orion11]

no,

just more childish b.s. that helps no one.

[Ammit]

Historycircus.

If you would have said that at the start you would have got my vote along my with my belief that Exchanger would also make a fantastic mod.

This site still seems too pent up for jokes, especially ill recieved jokes, i must confess I was one of those who ill recieved them.

That said, that was a nice repair job.

Ammit

Originally Posted by Ammit

Historycircus.

If you would have said that at the start you would have got my vote along my with my belief that Exchanger would also make a fantastic mod.

This site still seems too pent up for jokes, especially ill recieved jokes, i must confess I was one of those who ill recieved them.

That said, that was a nice repair job.

Ammit

As a voice of reason, your words could not please me more. I agree, that is what should have appeared at the beginning of this thread, not three pages deep.

The swastika fight didn't help.

[KassandraLoves]

I voted I dont care although, I wish it didnt have the "shut up" part at the end.

Swastika fights are awesome. We used to have them after school in the neighborhood I grew up in. Mom would get SO Pi$$ed when id come home all covered in swastika ....bwaaahahahaha....Lighten up guys, theres no reason to be a bunch of dou<hey dou<he bags to eachother....

Oh and P.S. eXchanger for mod, 2009!!!! hahaha...

[Reunite]

Originally Posted by KassandraLoves

...Lighten up guys, theres no reason to be a bunch of dou<hey dou<he bags to eachother....

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

Originally Posted by Reunite

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

"A douche is a device used to introduce a stream of water into the body for medical or hygienic reasons, or the stream of water itself. The word comes from the French language, in which its principal meaning is a shower (it is thus a notorious false friend encountered by non-native speakers of English; the phrase for vaginal douching is douche vaginale, meaning vaginal shower).

The word can refer to the rinsing of any body cavity but usually applies to vaginal irrigation, rinsing of the vagina. A douche bag is a piece of equipment for douching: a bag for holding the water or fluid used in douching (the term douche bag can also be used as an insult). To avoid transferring intestinal bacteria into the vagina, the same bag must not be used for a vaginal douche and an enema."

[KassandraLoves]

Originally Posted by Reunite

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

mmmmm....LemonGrass.....

[bodzoyfa]

Exchanger for mod!

Just keepin' it real...

Originally Posted by bodzoyfa

Exchanger for mod!

Just keepin' it real...

At least you are honest, and at least you voted - how many of our fellow Avalonians can claim both?

Originally Posted by Reunite

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

Your post here has inspired Baggywrinkle to create a thread for our future survival http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...5892#post85892 - may the douches and condoms lead us to a better future.

Vote for me!

[Average Joe]

Moderating is not something you volunteer for.

Moderating is something you are asked to do, if you have earned the right.

Then comes a choice of whether you want to or not.

[Harper]

No one has to participate if they don't want to, why are you goading people with 'at least you voted', who the hell cares about this subject, but you, history? What are you going to do anyway if you do get voted in? Are you going to storm the baricades, create a new schism, give out about it on another forum.

So the following logic is applied. I want to work at google and so I do a poll of all my mates and they all agree with me (accept a few who wouldn't participate because they don't understand how important it is -fools) that I should definately be allowed work there, cos I'm nice and I can do googly things. I tell google this but they are so corrupt that they won't listen, so I start by having a protest but they STILL won't let me work there they must be way more corrupt than we thought before etc...... and the half-truths get progagated and passed on and as the rules of chinese whispers always win out ---

BILL & KERRY ARE TOO CORRUPT TO HONOUR A FORMAL ELECTION blablabla

Elections I might add are secret ballot, so maybe start again and refine your campaign promises and have a trully meaningless election just like the real world.

I have nothing against you personally but this entitlement thing is getting me down..................................

[QUOTE=Harper;86033]who the hell cares about this subject, but you, history?[QUOTE]

I kind of hoped that everyone here would, but you and others are making it clear that most do not.

Thanks!

[Harper]

yeah when I was young I hoped democracy worked and that the people in power would care about me and that when you are nice, nice things happen to you and that I would be free and all the rest.

My point is what do you think will happen when you do get the majority that you currently have?

What are you going to do? You haven't thought it through very well and why put two obvious red herrings in the poll and give out when people choose them.

Would this be yet another ill conceived revolution that changes the faces but not the aims to gain power? If you can't take the good with the bad in your campaign what will happen when you get treated the way the current mods are getting treated................would you be able to be fair to me, now that I openly disagree with you, are you sure?

Originally Posted by Harper

yeah when I was young I hoped democracy worked and that the people in power would care about me and that when you are nice, nice things happen to you and that I would be free and all the rest.

My point is what do you think will happen when you do get the majority that you currently have?

What are you going to do? You haven't thought it through very well and why put two obvious red herrings in the poll and give out when people choose them.

Would this be yet another ill conceived revolution that changes the faces but not the aims to gain power? If you can't take the good with the bad in your campaign what will happen when you get treated the way the current mods are getting treated................would you be able to be fair to me, now that I openly disagree with you, are you sure?

Harper,

I am truly sorry you feel that you live in world where your voice doesn't count. I could not imagine existing thusly, for to do so is to admit defeat, is it not?

Anyway, I think I have fought very well the urge to combat the ridicule and baiting that has surrounded this election, especially from the folks who, obviously, did not read that big steaming post I left toward the end of page three.

Also, you state that I will get the majority, but by my own criteria, that ain't enough. To win, I must get the consent of at least 1/3 of registered Avalonians. A forty percent lead out of sixty some odd votes is not good enough.

One more thing.

I've taken my lumps here from time to time for coming across as hostile - one loving individual refers to me sometimes as the "angrycircus." I actually like that - the power to feel and express passion for things I care a great deal about. But some of the folks who have posted to this thread seem pretty angry too - and while I celebrate their impassioned spirit, I question if I am the rightful primary recipient, or just someone who got in the way. As Ozzy would say, "Lay your world on me, I can take the weight."

Anyway, vote Historycicus - a man too lazy to start or fight any war, but typically too drunk to ever concede defeat!

[Orion Morris]

History, you have personally attacked me before... I dont mind you here on the fourm but I dont think that you have enough self controll to me a moderator.

And you have attacked me.

Fair enough, and now we're even.

Thanks for contributing.

[Harper]

Oh Historycircus,

You make me smile as a fellow willing to say it anyway in the face of whatever is slung your way.

But what are we on the forum for but to change the fact that our voices have failed to overcome the ruling forces.

People have gotten rights and votes and equality whatever subject you like because it became obvious to the ruling classes that they couldn't any longer hope to get away with it. So from to time they concede and then change the goalposts again and we go on our merry way believing that we stuck one to the man. While they have in fact been sticking it to us in a million other ways. Do you know what I mean.

Like for instance if they had realised it a while ago that to make their slaves comfortable and entertained they actually work harder we might all have had a different history but the outcome would've been the same. I am not downhearted one bit by the whole thing, I know that if each person individually sets about to change their own heart then we can't but win. But this may not look like what anyone thinks, there may not be some 'final showdown' its may just feel like the wind changed and we got some fresh air.

take it easy