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I'm very much of the same general perspective but I'm trying not to let the Black and white absolutist in me dominate over my faith orientated pragmatism. I think we have a part to play in fixing things, one pragmatic step at a time.Quote:
Posted by Bright Skies
It's like how I hate and distrust allopathic medicine and want the world to be free from it, but the situation we are in right now is a train wreck and we need stretchers and ER facilities before we need 'lifestyle changes and healthy eating etc'.
But, you can be sure that if I see people (and I know I will) worshipping the ER crews or ER crews taking advantage of the trust people have placed in them for a specific and trained reason, I'll be speaking up and reminding them all what's what, as always, and as you are too, in your own way.
So if we :Avalon: do not follow your assumed narrative, we suppose to be "bowing down and worshiping" world leaders?Quote:
Posted by Bright Skies
Really?
:twitch::crazy::facepalm:
Another video with some additional information about
Trump Assassination Attempt: False Flag, Inside Job, or USSS Failure? Analyzing July 13 w/ John Cardillo (Ex-NYPD) & Zach Vorhies (Google Whistleblower) – Ask Dr. Drew
Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v54uzat/?pub=mpxgj
The article states that forensic (audio) analysis shows the first 3 shots came from one weapon, the next 5 shots came from another weapon, and the final "acoustic impulse" came from possibly a third weapon. The analysis was performed by two members of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver. (USA)
While the article goes on to discuss the (rooftop) gunman's likely distance from the podium based on audio analysis, it mentions nothing of how far the other weapon user(s) were from the podium. (We might presume that the last weapon user was the professional who neutralized Crooks.)
Former Secret Service Agent @dbongino On @DonaldJTrumpJr 's Show Today With @TuckerCarlson And @DavidSacks
"I was also told that the Secret Service Director has been given instructions from the Administration and the DHS Secretary that if you want to keep your job, you'll keep your mouth shut about this."
Also some great news CIC Trump is in good spirits.
@DonaldJTrumpJr describes the first convo he had with his father after Trump was shot: “He comes out defiant, ready to fight for our country…I just said, ‘Hey, you’re the biggest bad ass I’ve ever met. I could not have been legitimately more proud, ever, as a son.’”
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I found it suspicious that both of Crooks parents, Matthew and Mary, were both identified as professional "behavioral counselors" in this article here.
I found reference to the parents early on and have been waiting to see more info. This really does smell of MK Ultra-ish malfeasance such as with many teen (or early post-teen) mass shooters in the recent past. In the West we are aghast when we see children wrapped in explosive vests and told by elders in non-Western countries to detonate themselves in a public market. But the exact same thing is happening in the US, in our midst.
Especially with the 'water tower' shooter info coming out it seems obvious that a twenty year old kid was set up as a patsy.
I searched to see if this video has been posted yet or not and didn't find it.
Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/GtiWdyT7BRaB
Obviousy the author of the video has an agenda. At about the 2:00 mark there does seem to be a clear indication that the original footage was not tampered with, though, providing the actual timing of the ushering of the camera operators up to the front of the stage just before the shots were fired. And the checkered shirt/dark ballcap cameraman is clearly at front stage getting all kinds of iconic stills of the aftermath just after he was told to move up front from his backstage position. If this video is accurate it does indicate foreknowledge on the part of the SS (yes, they deserve that accronym). They wanted the scene to be recorded by the photographers. I'm sure they expected Trump's brains to be splattered instead of what they got.
Back to clif_high's attempt to decipher his data that pointed to something ocurring on or near the 15th of July: I found it interesting to listen to clif stumble around for some sort of explanation for his data. It's not easy to pin exact details to something like a precognitive vision, let alone details to something like clif's raw data. If the PEAR lab's random number generators were giving us data for this time frame I would bet that they'd show a significant perturbation.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1622881
The most significant aspect of this particular event in my eyes is the degree of participation by the public at large, not only in terms of the crowds present but also in terms of the collaboration online around the world. This hugely public event would naturally create an enormous energetic eruption. I know it sent me into a loop days before the event. Of course I knew nothing about the actual event, but did catch the very first reporting of it when it occured since I was furiously seeking some sort of explanation for why I was feeling what I was feeling beforehand.
Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that in some far future time there will be a 'Harry Seldon' who develops a 'psychohistory' theory, and that theory will be traced all the way back to our very own Clif High and his data processing methods. Clif is so much fun.
One more comment: Clif does speak of UFO's as he attempts to interpret the July 15th data. We all know that clif is into aliens and UFO's. I think he was referencing the remote viewing data when speaking of UFO's in his video. I'd suggest that he refrain from including anything but his own data in his efforts to interpret it. That's just a suggestion coming from someone who has spent a lifetime interpretting scientific data (much of it related to EEG correlates to things like OBE's and lucid dreaming). BUT, there's one strange connection here to Clif speaking of UFO's. And that has to do with Daniel Liszt (Dark Journalist) who has consistently pointed out that Donald Trump is in possession of knowledge re: aliens/UFO's having it handed down to him by a family member. The most recent Dark Journalist presentation references this. And many of his past presentations suggest that the real reason the swamp creatures (or those who control them) do not want The Donald near any kind of power is that he will spill the beans on the hugely classified alien prescence.
I just thought I'd make that connection just in case anyone might be interested. Please do not assume that I 'believe' any of this stuff. It's fun to take the broadest picture possible into consideration, though.
If you think about it, Clif's work really is very close to providing a beginning to understanding mass psycho-social behavior, ala 'psychohistory.' I get a grin on my face thinking about that.
As Ole Damegard would say, "there's always a Drill". Well, it wasn't a drill this time it was a Police and Fire 'Games'. Whatever that was, it would be a good way to bring specialists into the area to scope out the operation, to move people around and put operatives into position.
George is talking the most sense I've heard so far about the shooting lines of sight and the places where bullets hit.
George Webb joins Peter Duke, live from Butler, Pennsylvania
Boots on the Ground in Butler
https://rumble.com/v577zir-boots-on-...in-butler.html
Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v54vqv7/?pub=1yatds
Posted by Sue (Ayt)I found it suspicious that both of Crooks parents, Matthew and Mary, were both identified as professional "behavioral counselors" in this article here.Quote:
Posted by ErtheVessel
The first questions to answer are Why do they live where they do?, was it a 'career opportunity', are they multigenerational etc.
I was reminded of this while listening to this DukeReport with George Webb. If you go to 57 minutes in the video you'll hear Peter Duke bring it up.
Having listened to hundreds of hours of podcasts etc about that kind of stuff I can very easily believe the kid's parents are up to their necks in at least an outer circle of such a network. These networks become vast and so long term and stable that people forget or ignore that they are involved in something wrong. It's a social and professional group just like any other social and professional group, with it's own package of acceptable ideologies and justifications.
Posted by ExomatrixTV
But it's misleading. He's discussing (correctly) how the level of protection has been generally ordered to be reduced for Trump, and of course not approved at all for RFK Jr.
It's merely about DHS protection policy, NOT about the details of this specific event.
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Three days ago, I wrote above:
I've spent the last three days developing an increasingly complicated theory of what happened during this attempted assassination of Trump in Butler, PA., expanding on the above hypothesis.Quote:
Posted by ThePythonicCow
Fortunately for my reputation here, my theorizing kept feeling a bit too weird, even by my standards, and I didn't post much, if any of it, here.
Well ... it's too late now. I have discarded my theory, after reading the best analysis of what happened that I've found so far. The following article's insights and observations turned my theory to garbage, and I tossed my theory into my mental wastebasket.
Here's the best analysis I've read so far of what happened at the attempted assassination of Trump in Butler, PA.:
I had been figuring out in two dimensions the locations of buildings, bleachers, shooter, Trump, ... fairly carefully in my own studies, but ArnGrimR goes the extra mile and figures out their positions in three dimensions, and the resulting lines of sight.
When I gather the energy, I might return here and summarize it, in another post. Or perhaps someone will beat me to that task.
Here's a little teaser, that might send a few readers off to ArnGrimR's Substack to read this article right now:Super brief summary:Attachment 53392
- The Secret Service really botched it.
- There are hints (such as CNN broadcasting it live) that the assassination was a significant planned operation.
- Trump got really lucky ... or benefited from a miracle ... depending on how you understand such things.
CNN does a really sketchy job of covering that "three weapons fired" analysis.Quote:
Posted by Alecs
For example, while I'd guess that the actual analysis got three separate distances, based on the timings of the shot sounds, for each of the three groups of shots, CNN totally glosses over those details, commenting only on the shot distance that matched the distance from the shooter on the roof to Trump at the podium.
CNN also provides no link or other reference sufficient to track down that audio analysis.
As a result, too little of whatever that audio forensic analysis might have noted makes it through CNN's reporting to be of much use, to me at least.
Perhaps CNN was just looking for someway to justify a headline that suggested multiple shooters, in order to get clicks on an article that was little more than a short assemblage of a few observations of the events.
This is a great article, I really like how this was phrased in the article:Quote:
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Three days ago, I wrote above:
I've spent the last three days developing an increasingly complicated theory of what happened during this attempted assassination of Trump in Butler, PA., expanding on the above hypothesis.Quote:
Posted by ThePythonicCow
Fortunately for my reputation here, my theorizing kept feeling a bit too weird, even by my standards, and I didn't post much, if any of it, here.
Well ... it's too late now. I have discarded my theory, after reading the best analysis of what happened that I've found so far. The following article's insights and observations turned my theory to garbage, and I tossed my theory into my mental wastebasket.
Here's the best analysis I've read so far of what happened at the attempted assassination of Trump in Butler, PA.:
I had been figuring out in two dimensions the locations of buildings, bleachers, shooter, Trump, ... fairly carefully in my own studies, but ArnGrimR goes the extra mile and figures out their positions in three dimensions, and the resulting lines of sight.
When I gather the energy, I might return here and summarize it, in another post. Or perhaps someone will beat me to that task.
Here's a little teaser, that might send a few readers off to ArnGrimR's Substack to read this article right now:Super brief summary:Attachment 53392
- The Secret Service really botched it.
- There are hints (such as CNN broadcasting it live) that the assassination was a significant planned operation.
- Trump got really lucky ... or benefited from a miracle ... depending on how you understand such things.
I truly believe this! It's a great deception to believe that half the country is aligned with this dark and evil agenda being forced on the population.Quote:
I am not concerned about unity. Americans are much more united than they realize, and much more than our media, dividers par excellence, give them credit for.
As for this assassination attempt, I believe a huge percentage of the population suspect conspiracy/inside job.
This would indicate that the usual suspects were at play. So happy the attempt failed and hope they lose a TON of money.
If anyone wants to check out the shooting location on Google maps/earth THIS is the exact address and coordinates as copied from the address bar in my browser while viewing it.
This LINK will bring up a street view of the now famous water tower ( seen from the car park near it ).
It looks like a place a sniper could shoot from but not a place a sniper WOULD shoot from. The trees behind it don't look mature enough to support a sniper either.
Google images are always out of date so things could be different now than when this image was captured.
https://i.vgy.me/E5UvS4.jpg
I enjoyed her Maui Fire analysis, so I wanted to see her reaction to the Trump shooting.
About half way through she starts all her numerous questions. It's an enjoyable watch
and I like her sense of humor.
It was a theatrical production nothing more. No way in hell some pencil neck geek gets by the secret service no way. The fake blood, ridiculous fake picture of the alleged bullet in flight. Absolutely ridiculous. so say some.
Each side is seemingly supplied enough evidence to confirm their assumptions and drip-fed enough rage-bait – a lot of it entirely invented – to keep their echo chambers echoing and their attack dogs frothing at the mouth.
Essential to this of course is that neither ‘side’ and no theory is ever finally proven to be right or wrong.
Meanwhile, most of the MSM is currently happy to dismiss both sides as “conspiracy theorists”.
It really is a fascinating phenomenon to watch unfold. Are we witnessing a new meta for propaganda narratives? Instead of uniting with fake “consensus”, distracting with an eternal battle between two approved partial or total falsehoods.
As usual, the truth is likely in neither camp but buried beneath the unwarranted assumptions and unproven “facts” neither side questions.
But look at the benefits already accruing to the narrative-managers.
Well, I'm trying to avoid making posts of minute speculation here, but there is something else about the article you reference. On that page, scroll down to the Jakob twitter post of Jul 14.Quote:
Posted by Sue (Ayt)I found it suspicious that both of Crooks parents, Matthew and Mary, were both identified as professional "behavioral counselors" in this article here.Quote:
Posted by ErtheVessel
Specifically, look at the collage of 3 photos that, together, imply they are all of the same male. But, the ears (yes, back to ears) of the man in the larger of the photos looks different than in the photo of [him at a younger age] in the bottom right of the collage. (Click on that one to open up to a fuller view.)
Recall the personal short video of this man saying that he hates republicans, he hates Trump, and you got the wrong man.
Update: In second paragraph, I subsequently altered "earlobes" to "ears" which is what I meant to originally communicate.
Alexander Mercouris made a very wise comment at 1:56:37 in The Duran's excellent interview with Larry Johnson, streamed live yesterday. His diplomatic skills are far greater than mine, so I'll simply quote what he said.
Unwarranted skepticism is actually a trap. If you start doubting absolutely everything, then you end up believing nothing — in which case you have nowhere really to turn, and nothing to hold on to.
:focus:
A little light relief :)
Well, perhaps not. Reaching back into my mental wastebasket and flattening out some wrinkled neurons ...Quote:
Posted by ThePythonicCow
The sound of a rifle shot (an assymetric pair of distinct sounds for bullets faster than the speed of sound))actual lead flying through the air potentially wounding or killing a body it might hit.is not the same as
I'm sure that it would be easy, these days, for any group with the right equipment, technicians and materials, to fake the sounds that were recorded, without shooting the actual lead.
We can be confident that the FBI won't find the actual lead, unless that suits its narrative.
We essentially know that ArnGrimR, author of the Substack articles I linked above, as well as CNN and Mike Adams, who have both also reported analyses of these gun shot sounds, were reporting analyses from audio recordings, without actually being there and seeing or feeling or being hit by any actual flying lead at Trump's ear.
Furthermore, a scenario (such as I was thinking about but haven't described here) involving two apparent threat shooters, the patsy on the roof and a second one making the shots needed for the narrative that must NOT hit Trump, does not require that that second apparent threat shooter be in any particular location such as on top of the water tower.
In short, without actually getting into controversial details which I don't and can't actually know, and which many readers here might find unhelpful or annoying, let me close this digression by at least providing some of the hypotheses and speculative considerations that have been guiding my speculations into alternative narratives:
Suppose that:Then:
- The White Hats are by now more in control than is apparent.
- The Black Hats needed and tried to conduct an assassination.
- This attempted assassination ended up being a big White Hat win.
- The White Hats are not going to deliberately put Trump in serious danger.
- We're in a war to free humanity from thousands of years of tyranny.
- We might accept certain extraordinary risks to lives, limbs and property.
- Wounds can be faked, and minor wounds actually inflicted, with little penalty.
- The planning, on both sides is very deep.
might there have been ways for the White Hats to co-opt a Black Hat assassination plot to the White Hats' advantage -- perhaps a big advantage such as we ended up seeing here -- while minimizing unacceptable risks and costs?
Trump had no reason to fake his own assassination. He is already set to win in a landslide if the elections can be kept fair. The risk of such a manoeuvre is not worth the minimal gain.
Of course the Democrats and their lackeys pulled this caper. They cannot win with a corpse against such a formidable opponent who is noticeably alive.
But they blew it. Because for them the risk was worth it - they had nothing to lose.
If I search for "Police snipers on roof while Trump is still speaking" and choose "images", I can find several of the snipers in that position where they were aiming at Crooks but cropped so that I can't see Trump still speaking.
I just saw an image, in a 'Last American Vagabond' video that had the snipers AND Trump speaking, in the same frame.
That image says it all. ( but google doesn't want people to see it, it seems )
Oddly, even Trump's own Truth channel has deleted the full video of the event.
I'm guessing the full video of the event and or photos showing what the snipers were aiming at while he spoke are being purged right now from all over the net.
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Go to 28 minutes 59 seconds in this video to see the snipers AND trump in the same frame.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/IC3wCQacjMbb/
It's logical to think they are not done and will try again. These psychopaths are desperate and have reached the point that it is now justified in their minds to just kill him. It's obvious, well, beyond obvious now.Quote:
Posted by Ernie Nemeth
Trump has an extremely dangerous and deadly gauntlet to wiggle his way through until November, and then if he wins, for the following 4 years. His whole family needs to be extremely protected.
I personally feel they were 99% sure they wouldn't fail Saturday. The shooter had a well planned out access and position to make an extremely easy shot.
The evil ones are really pissed now and it's game on, they will get even more brazen and insane now. There's no way in my mind I think they will kick back and say it's over and just accept Trump will likely win in November.
They will try again....yes.
The 'Shot(s) heard around the world' is clearly affecting a large number of human consciousnesses.. to what ends remains to be seen.
https://x.com/TheInsiderPaper/status...75341664866500
maybe nothing but ColonelTowner-Watkins is an expert on Project Gladio-type false flags
https://x.com/ColonelTowner/status/1813562986906468625
A lot of people's emotions are through the roof – even here on Project Avalon.Quote:
Posted by DelightYep. People will just not know how to understand this and it will cascade. Now, we are in the realm of hypernovelty and then.....Quote:
Posted by Bright Skies
What I put my faith in still IS the Presence of Divine. People cannot depend any longer on "leaders" and we turn to the INNER connection with A REAL source of GOOD in our relationship to Divine. Why not? it beats nihilism any day.
The event has whipped people into a fervour and further polarised the masses which is the purpose of such events. People are literally breaking down into tears of joy at Trump's miraculous survival and comparing him to a deity. On the other hand there are unhinged wokeshevists who cannot contain their rage that Trump was not assassinated.
A perfect way to harvest energy! It is no wonder Clif High and the remote viewers of the Future Forecasting Group picked up so much angst and release language. I expect this state will continue for some time.
Note: I am apolitical and have no emotional attachment to any political leader or political party. I do not believe that any one political leader is the saviour and I do not buy into the controlled 'red team' vs 'blue team' competition. That is why I am analysing the incident in such a detached and dispassionate manner.
Perhaps this is the case for some individuals.Quote:
Posted by ExomatrixTVSo if we :Avalon: do not follow your assumed narrative, we suppose to be "bowing down and worshiping" world leaders?Quote:
Posted by Bright Skies
Really?
As I said in my post "so many have been sucked right back into the left-right paradigm of control". I have observed this trend over time and I know of some individuals in the so-called 'freedom movement' that I have participated in that have reverted back to this black and white way of thinking where they are giving unwavering support to a political leader and party.
(For example, a person I know made a trip to Russia in March as part of a delegation to act as an 'independent' observer for the recent election and afterwards after meeting with government officials appeared on Russian state television praising Putin and the transparency of the Russian electoral process. I obviously disagree with this person and I know for a fact that this person is interacting with Russian governmental assets and his trip was a contrived propaganda exercise.)
As for "we" at Project Avalon, it is not helpful to over-generalise and you don't speak for every Avalonian – you only speak for yourself. (And if I over-generalised in my initial comments I should not have and I apologise).
I never thought I'd see the day that I would be mocked on Project Avalon with 'crazy' and 'facepalm' emojis for not trusting a politician and suggesting that both sides are controlled.Quote:
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If that's how things are going to go down there is no point in participating here further.
provenance of claim about this photo verified? I know not.
https://x.com/seanmdav/status/1813581210766975378
Note: I am apolitical and have no emotional attachment to any political leader or political party. I do not believe that any one political leader is the saviour and I do not buy into the controlled 'red team' vs 'blue team' competition. That is why I am analysing the incident in such a detached and dispassionate manner.
If that's how things are going to go down there is no point in participating here further.
This could have been my quote...I empathize.
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... fine tuning the chronology of that flying bullet picture:
It is right between the time when, after the first shot is heard (first click-klok set of sounds) and Trump lifts his right hand from the lectern to check his right ear and before the second shot (click-klok) is heard when Trump touches his right ear. The third shot is heard when Trump is ducking.Quote:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/ima...quote_icon.png Posted by Gwin Ru https://projectavalon.net/forum4/cps...post-right.png
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... spot the lie/impossibility (simple geometry):
https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/i...?itok=mFqTFy4U
https://www.sott.net/image/s35/71060...41c_63607f.jpg
I know that because I saw it as part of a series of three rapid fire snap pictures taken by Doug Mills of the New York Time, the above being the first one, the second one is Trump touching his ear and the third one he is looking at his hand... (I missed taking a screen shot and now I can't find it anymore :\ )
So, now we either have a bullet without sound, or a non-existent bullet - AKA artifact - or an adulterated photo.
Just a couple of questions.
1) Has anyone come across any article or video that discusses whether these could be used to raise Secret Service spotters or even snipers to a high, clear, strategic vantage point?
(They're called boom lifts. SpaceX has a zillion of them all over their Starbase launch facility as stable elevated platforms to do maintenance on rockets.)
2) And how about drones? Any teenager with a good drone + camera, costing just a few hundred $$, could have seen the shooter(s) almost instantly.
If you tied me down, it’s Ukraine
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_UjCf...GeorgeGalloway (3:51)
"The thing is that Donald Trump has made it plain that he won’t continue with war in Ukraine and follow the path to World War Three. Although he might do it elsewhere".
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I use these all the time in my work. They are easy to use, very stable and versatile.
I was pointing at what you are describing, not at you personally ... calling it being "mocked" sounds more like an insecurity issue.Quote:
Posted by Bright Skies
cheers,
- You see, you may not realize that you are "mocking" others too in using highly judgmental semi-accusatory generalizing terms.
John 🦜🦋🌳
This is interesting.....it just keeps getting more strange.
Trump shooter's parents called police
Bright Skies makes a good point that IMO a bad side effect of the attempted assassination has been to generate a (to me) unrealistic and ridiculous optimism about the prospects for a DT presidency... again.
Yet the fact remains that DT actually was President, for 4 years, failed to accomplish either of his two core manifesto mantras ("build the wall, drain the swamp") but instead presided over the plandemic response of 2020 and the summer of BLM, and was fanatically in favour of the not-vax.
So far as I know, he has neither acknowledged nor repented his near-total failure; but has now doubled down on unconditional open-ended US support for Israel.
DT does have some good qualities, and he is nothing like as committed to evil as the people who hate him; but he is part of the problem - not the answer.
That underlying fact (as I regard it) should not be forgotten among the relief at his survival, and the interesting attempts to understand the "green flag" aspects of the assassination attempt.
A Simplicius bulletin released July 14th and is a helpful roundup of what any of us had to work with then. Keeping my eyes peeled for a more forensic dive on the shooters (plural) likely follow-up provided he has time to do that along with the regular weekly SITREPs around the Ukraine.
This will seem like a lot of old news now so just linking this here for the record, with a couple of extracts:
SPECIAL BULLETIN: America Teeters on the Abyss
Source: Simplicius The Thinker's Lyceum
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....there is now a clearly coordinated total blackout happening of the term “assassination” or “assassination attempt” between the regime media which comprises the fourth branch of government and all the attendant deepstate organs up and down the chain.
Scoop from DC Draino:
SCOOP: Secret instructions given to news reporters telling them to play down Trump’s attempted assassination These people are evil
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/..._775x1155.jpeg
....This should leave you speechless—I have never witnessed such an openly diabolical psyop and mass gaslighting operation. We literally just watched the attempted assassination of an American president, and the media is treating it like a superfluous nonevent.
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The thing is: we know precisely why they’re doing it.
It’s because if today’s event were to be given the official cachet of ‘assassination attempt’, it would completely and irrevocably de-legitimize the phony “J6” turning point which is one of the last holdfasts the Democrats have left in their quiver against Trump. You see, they’ve spent four years trying to delude us into believing that J6 was in fact a direct assassination attempt on ‘Trump’s opponents’—Pelosi just said this days ago—TWICE—as another obvious dogwhistle to her radical base.
....Imagine how fast the fraudulent J6 narrative house of cards would tumble if today’s event is allowed to be characterized as an actual assassination—there would be no comparison to the anodyne J6 fairytale where a bunch of old women larped around in the Capitol foyer.
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