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Following the massive #blackout, Spain’s five nuclear power plants (with seven operating reactors) have ceased electricity production for safety reasons
The reactors have been shut down. Although they are no longer supplying power to the grid, the internal systems of each plant remain operational, with backup diesel generators running, according to Spain’s Nuclear Safety Council.
https://x.com/Uncensorednewsw/status...21318734914039
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New🇪🇸: A massive power cut across the Iberian peninsula has disrupted operations at several refineries and chemical plants in #Spain today.
All five of
@Repsol
's refineries have been forced to shut, a union representative for the company's workers said. This includes the 220,000 Bilbao refinery which is operated by Repsol's Petronor subsidiary.
Fellow Spanish refiner Moeve said it has also halted activity at its refining and chemical plants in the country and is using back-up power generators "to guarantee the safety and control of the system". Moeve operates the 244,000 b/d Algeciras and 220,000 b/d Huelva refineries. Its 250,000 t/yr San Roque base oils plant is also shutting down.
Chemicals firm Dow said all plants at its Tarragona industrial complex in Spain have been closed.
The longer the power outage lasts, the longer it will take to restart integrated sites. Refineries affected by power outages normally require a 2-3 day restart period. It is unclear yet if any plants have sustained damage.
@ArgusMedia
#SpainBlackout
https://x.com/Bacharelhalabi/status/1916887278221173105
I'm unsure what you mean by sovereignty, and I'm unsure which way you are leaning with whatever it is you do mean by sovereignty.Quote:
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Quite simply, in my view it is not possible.Quote:
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Each individual must themselves give up their sovereignty, or otherwise sacrifice it to something.
Sovereignty may entail more than most are willing to hold to, though. Each must ask themselves what is more important.
We should discuss this somewhere on the board.
Without individuation we are no more than utopia seeking communist intellectuals.
The reality of coming earth changes (NOT so-called"global warming") is beginning to go mainstream, though Carlson and Fitts are still fuzzy on the details.
It's interesting that Fitts brings up the scifi novel "3 Body Problem", which I have heard mentioned several times recently from different sources, and so that also seems to be entering the mainstream consciousness.
[QUOTE=onawah;1666101]"Are we Approaching an Extinction Event?"--At the heart of the discussion between Tucker and C.A.Fitts:
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1...9290637?t=1947
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Former Bush administration official Catherine Austin Fitts on how America’s leaders gave up on the country in the 1990s, began stealing trillions and built a digital prison to control the population.
12:03 PM · Apr 28, 2025
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(0:00) Introduction
(1:11) The Attempts to Control the World’s Currency
(12:09) The Two Things That Lead to Inflation
(16:17) Central Bankers vs. the West
(25:01) What You Should Know About the Bank of International Settlements
(29:48) The Banker’s Plan to Conquer Space
(32:27) Are We Approaching an Extinction Event?
(35:57) Secret Underground Bases All Across the US
(44:49) The Government’s Secret Energy Sources
(56:42) Who Are the Masterminds Behind the Central Banks?
(58:26) The Real Reason American Universities Are Failing
(1:06:25) The Global Depopulation Plan
(1:13:20) The Housing Crisis
(1:24:40) How to Stay Joyful in Dark Times
(1:25:37) The Missing $21 Trillion
(1:30:30) America’s Debt Is a Symptom of Something Much Bigger
(1:39:36) Global Money Laundering
(1:45:06) Where Can People Learn More About This?
I know of the "three body problem" not as a sci-fi novel (not one of my areas of interest) but as a notorious physics problem:Quote:
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In my view, we're about as likely to "solve" this problem using our current science as our ancestors were to solve the problem of flying to the moon using coal powered steam engines.We cannot reliably and accurately compute very far into the future the positions of three (or more) similar sized objects interacting solely under their mutual gravitational forces, because the slightest imprecision in measurement of current positions, velocities and accelerations, or the slightest lack of perfect precision in calculations, lead fairly quickly to arbitrarily large errors in predictions.
But, in any case, the current lack of a solution to this three body problem is used to explain the difficulty computing trajectories using a pure gravity model that we would have if some large (big planet or dwarf star) body approached our inner solar system. That I think this "difficulty" has more profound origins, in the very core of our public science, matters little here. We indeed can't measure or compute such, and it (the intrusion into the inner solar system of any such "third party errant visitor") would indeed be a "hang on for dear life and hope you're still here to pick up the pieces" moment.
Whether any 6,000 or 12,000 year cataclysm cycle is due to such a "third body" in a highly eccentric orbit, or due to our solar system moving in some cyclic way through galactic plasma structures, or Paul LaViolette's galactic superwave from the core of the Milky Way, or whatever, that we don't, publicly at least, know yet. But we may get to find out ... even within my current lifetime.
Ben Davidson talked about how hard Einstein was working toward finding the answer as he neared the end of his life.
See starting at 32 minutes into Ben's recent (very passionate) update here:
I think the data is conclusive now (if you can keep up with it all) and Ben thinks Einstein was on the right track, even back in his time.
The geological evidence of past cycles is certainly convincing enough, just on its own merits.
Just for starters, how else to explain the wooly mammoths found frozen with tropical green vegetation still in their mouths?
And ancient scorch marks so severe and plentiful, in so many places concurrent over the planet they could only have been caused by a micronova?
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But relevance of the "three body problem" flowed out of differing hypotheses, that we are in a gravity dominated universe, not electromagnetic plasma fields and that there is a large planet or dwarf star in a highly eccentric orbit around our solar system that creates unpredictable chaos every 6,000 or 12,000 years when it visits the inner solar system. So for those considering those hypotheses, I was deliberately avoiding debating what the cause of the apparently periodic catastrophes was. Maybe those hypotheses will in part at least prevail.
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I'm still reading "Three Body Problem" but I watched the first video in the trilogy.
Perhaps the latter deviates from the book, but in the video it is the alien race that was contacted by Chinese scientists which had the problem of the three suns.
Earth's problem was the alien race's intention to take over Earth once their own planet was destroyed by the three suns' convergence in their solar system.
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But relevance of the "three body problem" flowed out of differing hypotheses, that we are in a gravity dominated universe, not electromagnetic plasma fields and that there is a large planet or dwarf star in a highly eccentric orbit around our solar system that creates unpredictable chaos every 6,000 or 12,000 years when it visits the inner solar system. So for those considering those hypotheses, I was deliberately avoiding debating what the cause of the apparently periodic catastrophes was. Maybe those hypotheses will in part at least prevail.
Ah - I was talking about the "Three Body Problem" of gravitational astronomy; whereas Catherine Austin Fitts and yourself are talking about the book and video of an alien race from a three sun solar system.Quote:
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I think the two are related in a sneaky scifi prophetic way, but that would take a lot of explaining...
I went into that a bit on another thread, which I will post here if I can find it.
update: Here it is:
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Posted by onawahI have been a long time fan of SciFi which is often very prophetic, and it's interesting to speculate as to how it is that SciFi authors seem to know what's coming.
Are they being clued in via clairvoyant visions, or higher dimensional beings, or ETs or scientists working on secret very advanced projects.
I don't think it can be explained simply by the possibility that they are very imaginative, because there are too many coincidences whereby what they "imagined" are precisely what later materialized.
I recently watched the Netflix video "3 Body Problem" the first season of what will probably be a 3 part trilogy based on the award winning scifi trilogy by the Chinese author Liu Cixin, the first book of which was published in 2015. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Body_Problem_(TV_series)
It got me thinking, and I posted the following recently in response to another recent post about "smart fabrics", which also follows:
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Posted by onawahNot to be a spoiler, but speaking of "smart fabrics", I am just now finally watching the Netflix series "3 Body Problem, in which one of the main characters in Season 1, a scientist who has been developing a ground breaking "nanofabric" capable of earning her and her company a fortune, is facing an ethical question which may mean life or death for her and for her invention, as well as for the fate of the company of which she is the primary scientific researcher.
She knows (by means of a mysterious kind of hallucination that she has in common with another scientist) that if she continues with the invention's development, it will mean her death and probably her company's failure and the death of many others. There have been suicides of several other scientists in different fields who have apparently been facing similar dilemmas.
But she also knows that if she discontinues the development, though she may survive, her ethical motives for using her intellectual gifts for commercial purposes thus far and her whole life's modus operandi must come under her own very close scrutiny, while at the same time she will be under great pressure from without to continue with the project because it is so lucrative.
She proceeds with the development, eventually feels very remorseful and is terrified by the devastating weaponry that "nanofabric" creates.
The core theme of the series is a discovery which explains the reason for a periodic cycle which regularly causes calamaties on a planet (or planets-all similar to Earth) which some of these scientists have been visiting via a virtual reality device that seems to have somehow materialized anonymously from a far more advanced civilization.
Sometimes most of the population of the particular virtual planet in question die by fire from an apparent micronova and sometimes by ice, and sometimes other effects of their solar system's 3 suns converging.
...Notice the similarities in bold letters further down in this post.
The scientists in the virtual reality are presented with the problem of discovering what is the cause and the solution for saving the populace of the virtual planet(s) from these regularly occurring cataclysms.
What has always interested me greatly about good scifi ("3 Body Problem", both the Hugo winning trilogy and the Netflix series have received rave reviews (the Netflix series creators are also credited with the "Game of Thrones" series), is that they are often very prophetic about scientific discoveries which have yet to be made, or at least, yet to be made public. ("The Matrix" being perhaps the most obvious example.)
In this case, what the "3 Body Problem" itself is, is primarily a theory developed by one scientist participating in the virtual reality, postulating that the devastating solar cycles are caused by the virtual planet(s) actually being in a system that has 3 Suns.
While in reality on planet Earth now, the solar cycle that our own solar system and the rest of the Milky Way is apparently regularly affected by in devastating ways is what the late Dr. Paul la Violette named the "Galactic Superwave", which issues forth regularly from the Great Central Sun and activates every star as it expands and traverses the Milky Way.
So the fictional cause and the actual theoretical cause differ in that in reality, the regular solar cycles of our own Sun is the indirect cause of the regular cataclysms, the direct cause being the Galactic Superwave.
While the fictional cause is the problem of the 3 Suns which regularly devastate the virtual planet(s).
(But I'm still only on episode 3 of season 1 and have not read the books yet, so I'm sure there are more complexities to come.)
I don't know if there has been a rash of suicidal scientists in our present reality as there is in the series, but it would not surprise me, and I imagine that many scientists are having huge personal dilemmas revolving around personal ethics these days.
It also would not surprise me if some of today's scientists, like many scifi writers seem to have been, are being tutored and/or influenced in some ways by off-world or other-dimensional beings who are knowledgable about solar cycles, the dangers of nanotechnology and other current critical issues.
Whether Earth scientists are consciously aware of it or not...
The task put before the fictional scientists is to figure out how to save the population of the virtual planet(s) from the next approaching catastrophe.
It would seem that if the real problem has been put to today's actual scientists, they have yet to inform the public about it in much detail.
Although those who are awake and aware enough understand what is apparently coming, and some of them at least are revealing their findings which are being recorded and collated by people like Ben Davidson of SpaceWeatherNews.
While some, like archeologist Dr. Robert Schoch, are tutoring the public about recent, definitive findings indicating how people in the past have survived cataclysms like the ones which apparently are presently looming in Earth's near future (a micronova followed by a brief Ice Age).
This applies to the discussions on several other threads where I will be "replying with quote".
I'm no scientist, but to me as an intuitive, this issue is presently the foremost one for Earth, by which all others relatively pale in comparison.
As for the Netflix series, filming of a second season is said to be starting sometime this year and I've read that a third season has been approved as well. I have access to the books, but they are very long and detailed, and I'm not sure I will get through them.
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Posted by ThePythonicCowAh - I was talking about the "Three Body Problem" of gravitational astronomy; whereas Catherine Austin Fitts and yourself are talking about the book and video of an alien race from a three sun solar system.Quote:
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Yeah - related - somehow.Quote:
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[QUOTE=onawah;1666116]The reality of coming earth changes (NOT so-called"global warming") is beginning to go mainstream, though Carlson and Fitts are still fuzzy on the details.
It's interesting that Fitts brings up the scifi novel "3 Body Problem", which I have heard mentioned several times recently from different sources, and so that also seems to be entering the mainstream consciousness.
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Posted by onawahThe above was concurrent with Ben Davidson's assessment of the power outage in Europe and what that portends regarding the timeline of the geomagnetic pole reversal.
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Just one reason of many why C.A. Fitts is probably my favorite whistle blower. :Angel:
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We live in multiple orders, the material, family, community, economic, intellectual, ... and spiritual orders. We are responsible for how we choose to live within each order. Prepping and gaining resilience in each level, within practical, balanced, limitations, are worthy tasks.
The spiritual order is NOT superior because our personal spiritual awareness might extend further in the material dimensions of space or time, past the extent of our material lives. Rather the spiritual order is superior because it is an "ordering of orders", giving form, shape and guidance to the lower orderings.
Whether or not my personal spiritual awareness continues past the demise of my physical being, and remains aware that it does so, my material and intellectual being knows not. I suspect it does, and some who have had near death experiences report that it does, but my spiritual power now does not depend on my spiritual awareness having some greater extent in the space and time materium than my physical life, even though I may choose to live in this material world assuming that my spiritual awareness does so extend. If indeed it does so extend, there will be a time and a place, past this material life, to learn that it does ... I'm in no hurry, but I when that time comes, may I welcome the moment with curiosity and a smile.