Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

[Sierra]

Posted by Daozen (here)
This is not a policing action. This is a round table of equals, where some of us are speaking in support of Simon, others against him, others neutral. If moderators were to get involved, it would demean the whole discussion. They are here to provide a platform, and only intervene when necessary. The Parksists asked for the other thread to be closed. It was closed. Now we're on a new thread.

Avalonians are forgiving and mild mannered in general, and this is cynically being used against them. Simon, Onawah and others were given dozens of chances to calmly step down, they decided not to.

Our justice system has failed us, diplomatic means have been exhausted. Our last resort is open, public discourse. No honest person should be afraid of that.

I say let everyone speak freely.

Agreed. I/we/moderators have no desire to be the thought police.

Posted by greybeard (here)
Yes Ulli agreed.

I know I have said it before (Several times smiling) but when i posted that Simon was talking and I reversed his name Parks to read Krap, I got visited by a mod, I was reported by a member for voicing that opinion. Also got a PM which I will not going into cept for saying --- "That I should know better than insult a fellow member."
A fellow member to my mind posts on other subjects than just himself.

The mod was quite taken with Simon as a Spiritual guide.
Things have changed
That was quite some time ago but I hope when anyone voices similar sentiments on a new star that some heed is taken.

I did not take it personally Im just making a point.

Chris

And thank you for that.

Herein is the REAL lesson. No more stars, no more chasing after stars, no more happily parking one's brains at the door, no more platforms of religious awe propping up wanna be's, please.


I much prefer the company of equals.

[greybeard]

Oh Sierra Im smiling---Im in total agreement -- I wish it was that easy but it would not surprise me if another star appeared--there seems to be a need for one.
Though I think more discernment will be shown by the majority of members.

When suspecting that a new whistle blower and I use that tern loosely, is not all they claim to be, it is important to give valid reason for the suspicion--not liking or a gut feeling is not enough.
Even the logic and rational thinking will not get through to supporters but it may be enough for moderators to contemplate some form of action.

Having taken this action this once ie to ban threads on Simon Parks it should be easier and somewhat quicker if it becomes absolutely necessary again and I hope not.

I believe in free speech but not at any price.

Chris

[sunwings]

Published on 13 Jan 2014
Welcome to the Project Avalon Forum interview with contactee and experiencer Simon Parkes — who himself is a longstanding and highly respected Avalon member.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4

There are more questions than answers (as always) on this thread. If he has been tricking us all along, then he should know Karma, will be there waiting for him.

[Pam]

And thank you for that.

Herein is the REAL lesson. No more stars, no more chasing after stars, no more happily parking one's brains at the door, no more platforms of religious awe propping up wanna be's, please.


I much prefer the company of equals.

Amen to that!!!!!!

[Debra]

I say there are already some amazing voices in our own membership - who I enjoy paying attention to whenever they have something to add - often more than so called profile names in alternative media.

To me, you are the stars.

We are lucky to have some of them on this thread!

Bless you all !

[greybeard]

Yes Paula in particular is one of the most together, helpful, and fair minded persons on Avalon, though I like the fact that really we are all equal.
The Buddha said it well. "Put no head above your own" thats wise advice.

Chris

[TrumanCash]

I must confess at the onset that I have not been following Simon Parkes threads for a long time. He lost me a long time ago when he constantly put forth the idea/propaganda that Mantids are benevolent.

No, they are not. They are one of the master manipulators if not the master manipulators of planet Earth. The Mantids have conspired directly with the Serpent Staff Pleiadians (e.g., Ra, Ptah, Thoth, et al) to create god-worshipping religions that have been historically and are being used presently to tear the this planet apart and with divide-and-conquer tactics to create never-ending war and chaos. The Mantids operate the insidious in-between lives implanting motherships and apparently other mechanisms to program people into believing false realities (e.g., NDEs). I detailed all this over twenty years ago in my books, especially THE EYE OF RA. They have created an artificial reincarnation system that has been enslaving and torturing souls for thousands--if not millions--of years. This is not speculation on my part; this is my personal experience with these sociopathic ETs.

I want to thank all those victims and witnesses of Simon Parkes' very unethical, if not criminal, exploitation of people seeking help. The reports of sexual predatory practices as a means of "therapy" or "counseling" are shocking to me. I also want to thank Bill Ryan for sharing the emails that he has received because I also share the viewpoint that such activities need to be exposed.

I have made it a personal policy not to publicly judge or invalidate other "experiencers" who have the courage to publicly talk about their abductions and/or contacts with ETs. However, I have to make an exception here.

I do not know if Simon Parkes has just been mind-controlled from early age by his "mum" and "dad" or if he is just one of those truly gifted sociopathic storytellers. I do know that the Mantids and Reptilians that have been interfacing with Earth inhabitants are in fact masters of mind control.

There were certain things that Simon said when he first came onto this forum that piqued my interest. He was the only one besides myself who had mentioned the Mantid in-between lives implanting facilities, which, if memory serves, he described as "processing" facilities. He also described in detail and with pictures the Mantid technology of transferring a being into a different body. I had exposed this technology in the mid-90s in THE EYE OF RA. So now I am wondering--given the additional claims of plagiarism--Did he read my books and then make up a story based upon what I had documented twenty years ago? Or did he truly have these experiences which appear to validate my own experiences? Or is he part of the Illuminati conspiracy to put a happy face on abductions and the unconscionable acts of Reptilians and Mantids?

Apparently, no one else had publicly reported these Mantid technologies twenty years ago because I had then sent both of my books free of charge to Linda Moulton Howe who (politely) expressed her disbelief in my experiences. However, now after twenty years have passed she finally gets it.

I also wondered why Simon was treated like some guru. I still do not understand this phenomenon to this day so if anyone would like to shed some light on the subject I would appreciate it.

I have never wanted guru status. I am a very private person so I use a pen name and don't make videos of myself on YouTube. Also, having known Phil Schneider and seeing what the powers that be can do to people who report seeing US military working with Grays, I see no benefit in being a public martyr. Anyway, I don't understand why Simon would hold himself out to be some kind of spiritual guru. One of the repeated claims he has made is that we have a Mantid soul, or a Reptilian soul, or a whatever soul. No, we are a soul. We have all experienced lifetimes in many different bodies. Bodies are just bodies. They are just vehicles. As the driver of a car you would not say "I am Volkswagen" or "I am a 1959 red and white Corvette convertible" (my favorite). We are not our bodies just as we are not the car we drive. However, the ET controllers refer to our bodies as "containers". I think that word says it all.

One last thing I'd like to mention is that when I take the viewpoint of those who are non-members who are viewing this thread, from that viewpoint I would like to see some affidavits by the people who were sexually coerced by Simon and I'd like to hear that tape recording of Simon's abuse under the pretense of "counseling". If not an affidavit then a video interview of what happened in each instance would definitely enhance the credibility factor for the skeptics or those entranced by Simon's guru status. Of course, I know it is not an easy thing to do that for those involved and it can be somewhat embarrassing to admit being taken in by him. But we have all been there, haven't we?

[RunningDeer]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Yes Paula in particular is one of the most together, helpful, and fair minded persons on Avalon, though I like the fact that really we are all equal.
The Buddha said it well. "Put no head above your own" thats wise advice.

Chris

Thank you, Chris.

Together? Nope, nope and a big nope. The difference between the yesteryear-Paula and present one is that I stopped measuring growth with a micrometer. Curiosity and passion are what drives me to continue to discover and uncover. It’s not a popular place to hang out if one needs a lot of people around. I’m light in that department.

Spectrum of helpful vs. the enabler: a part of me asks, "Have I stop them from a growth opportunity by interrupting their process?" Blind compassion may really be a way to prevent the personal hurt I felt in those moments. It’s one of the hardest things to do; be strong enough to allow the other to stumble and figure it out for her/himself.

Fair minded is what life’s all about. If I’m not that then I’ve missed the mark. Differing opinions are cool. Though, I hurt when one goes poke-poke or name calls to another. One part of me understands some reasons why they do it, another part does not.

Ego is an overlay waiting to be peeled back to see the spirit-human. That’s an exciting journey worth experiencing. What I keep figuring out, as far back as I recall, is at my core I’ve always been the same. I like it there.

Paula ♡

[Mike]

Posted by Debra (here)
I say there are already some amazing voices in our own membership - who I enjoy paying attention to whenever they have something to add - often more than so called profile names in alternative media.

To me, you are the stars.

We are lucky to have some of them on this thread!

Bless you all !

I couldnt agree more Deb! There is a thread out there titled "who should Bill interview next?", and I hope he interviews a member here. There are many who would make a great interview. I'd personally vote for DNA, Daozen, Greybeard or...get this...Onawah!

Ive been whistleblower'ed out for some time now. When Henry Deacon arrived recently with all that goofy coded nonsense, I believe I let out the world's loudest sigh. Of course it was going to end badly. I didnt even feel excitement for a second. Thats a sure sign of jadedness. But it nearly *always* ends that way, doesnt it? That should be a lesson for us..and I hope it is.

Just to be clear: I absolutely do not support Simon Parkes in any way. But I do support our members freedom to express a different view, without fear of ridicule or shame. It's important to note that someone like Onawah doesnt endorse the things Simon is accused of doing...she simply hasnt made her mind up yet as to whether she believes it all. It's an important distinction to make. After all, he is still an active member here, despite everything that has been said about him. I don't expect our mods to be opinionless bots (and I appreciate the passion and intelligence in your post Deb!..and agree with almost all of it!) but a thread like this gives the impression of bullying..and thats my issue with it. Every society or group has to decide upon a value system..and if its decided this group's value system is a "no Simon zone", then lets openly declare it, instead of simply implying thru innuendo or threads such as this one (and that would start with banning the guy, wouldn't it?...which i'd support by the way

@Marcus, thanks for your post brother! Whatever I said that day about verbally spanking you was all macho bullsh!t of course. I had to say something...you really laid into me that day And I probably deserved it. Anyway, i'm glad we're on the same team now..

Moving On...
No man, I'm not looking for a fight. I'm too tired for that. This'll be my final post here.

I do recall you being disturbed by all the Parkes adulation way back when. You called it.

Yup, it seems he's a world class scumbag. Youll get no debate from me there. However, in this world of conspiracy and paranoral, it seems almost everything is possible. It seems that anything goes. It's basically a gigantic sh!tstorm. Where does the truth end and fantasy begin? Not too long ago, Simon was latest n greatest thing here. People were swallowing his "chosen one" fantasy hook line n sinker (and a whole bunch of other crap as well). We've swung n missed here many many times. Gullibilty is rampant. It's all pervasive. Its everywhere, all the time. People believe the most outrageous, delusional stuff you could imagine. But we allow it and say very little. We certainly don't start threads calling them out. And ive said this here many many times: if we don't check people here occasionally...if we don't say "please stop saying that..thats not true"..if we don't have the courage to do that then we create a very murky sort of fantasy land where truth and fiction - which are already blurred together in most instances - are next to impossible to decipher. Is it any wonder people are confused? We all contribute to it when we let blatant lies go unchecked. So in that sense, we're all responsible for the confusion. Also, It's easy in this field to question question question, even when things seem obvious..simply because as a result of being duped so many times, thats what we've trained ourselves to do

[dancing bear]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
I agree with many of the emailers points. Many of us do. There are dozens upon dozens of active members that could have, and maybe already have, written something similar. Which makes posting it here all the more redundant and pointless. It was in my opinion in very poor taste, as it repeatedly singles out one member (Onawah) for reprimand, which has the effect of shaming or embarrassing or intentionally trying to gang up on someone...and accomplishes little else. I was embarrassed by it.

Onawah is not anyone's puppet. She's not speaking for anyone. Her posts reflect her sincere opinions on Simon Parkes. They may be immensely frustrating to many members here - including me! - but until we implement a "no Simon" policy here, she should be able to proceed without fear of shaming or condescension.

And, imo, if someone wants to have a take here, they should register just like everyone else and join the discussion that way.

Bill, mods, you all know I support you all and have great respect for each and every one of you, but I think you dropped the ball on this one. I can't help but question the motivation here???

Mike
I love you like a digital brother. I do. I agree with you 99.99% of the time.
But I also feel you like a good fight now and then, and there is no better fight than defending the underdog so to speak.
Fair enough.
If I were in a forum brawl there is probably no one better I would choose to stand by my side than yourself.
There was even a time when I think we were on the verge of a row, and you reminded me of our friendship and also stated you didn't wanna risk losing it by verbally whipping my ass on the forum. Of which my brother, I had little doubt then and I have little doubt now that you could do.
You are quite handy with the six shooter as your avatar signifies with Val Kilmer portraying Doc Holliday from the movie Tombstone.
The best character of the movie and probably Val Kilmer's career.
But back to the topic.
In the Spring of 2015 I left the forum for the most part. I believe I talked with you about it at the time. And my reason for not wanting to be here was the forum's support of Simon Parks at the time.
I had become aware that Simon Parks was taking advantage of folks, men and women alike and making unprotected sex an important part of their healing process.
You may say buyer beware and you may be correct in that point.
The ruling precept of Adam Smith's economic principals were that if two parties both being of sound mind entered into agreed exchange of money and or goods and services then the exchange was a positive in so far as it reflected on the market.
We must now ask ourselves, where the folks who accepted Simon Parks offer of sexual healing of sound mind?
Simon Parks was a councilor or rather a energetic healer. The folks coming to Parks felt there was something wrong with them and decided to pursue a means of healing.
I'm sure the majority of the folks who entered into an arrangement with Parks never in their wildest dreams thought he was going to physically enter them. Now I'm sure most of these folks were of sound mind, but the power we give healers can often times allow us to follow the recomendation of the healer to an extent we never would have considered before the relationship started.
Now does this mean all these folks were not of sound mind? I'm thinking they were of sound mind, but I'm sure some by their own admission some were seeking help on this account. So atleast on a few accounts we can assume that the individuals were not of sound mind being as they came for healing help, now by not being of sound mind this was not an exchange the market would deem beneficial.
When entering a relationship of patient healer one lets one's defenses down. One allows the healer to be in charge.
There are ethical restraints in the psychology fields because of this.
Now that these complaints have reached our forum owner's ears and the ears of the mods to the satisfaction that these complaints are real, the proper protocols have been put in place and we are getting away from offering Parks a venue of which to procure more victims. There seems to be a few dissenting opinions on the validity of those vicitms who have come forward. There seems to be a few folks who demand "proof" in so far as it relates to "proof" being more than human testimony.
You may feel Onawah should have the freedom to express her views on the positive concerning Parks, and you may be correct.
But my own personal view is, if we can save one person from Simon Parks sodomizing them both mentally/spiritually and mentally then shouldn't we?
I think so.
And if this means posting five negatives to every one of Onawah's positive posts where Simon Parks is concerned then so be it.
I know you and Natalie are friends, but the forum verdict on Simon has been made.
He is guilty as guilty gets.
We have plenty of lurkers reading our words, not just the guy who had his e-mail posted.
I think it is our duty to get the word out for those who are still being lured in by his videos. And I also applaud those who contradict the message of Simon being any kind of a valid healer/therapist. Simon is a predator plain and simple


I hope you understand what a touchy subject this is.
The topic is a fairly charged one. Especially for those who have been taken advantage of.

You could knock me down with a feather!
Guilty of biting, hook line and sinker, I took the bate straight down.
Initially thought all of this was usual forum dissing and bitching stuff but after reading through and considering I will not be promoting SP or posting any more of his links.
I don't often post on here, but did post a link to SP 's interview with KC a few days back and on reflection apologise for that particularly as it turned out to have already been posted.

Thanks for all of you that have put your heads above the parapet to share your unsavoury experiences. I hope you recover and move on as a result to become stronger and wiser for the experience. It has certainly influenced my view of SP. There does seem to be a lot of disclosures of a similar nature going on presently with the spat that recently took place between Max Igan and Ken O'Keef.
Hopefully all that is hidden will be revealed and we can get on with manifesting what should be a beautiful world. Thanks again for the heads up all.

[DePortugal]

Bill Ryan, It is very sad to see someone like you to be obliged? or coerced? or forced? to publish a text, from someone that is not an Avalon member.
It looks a well-paid work very cleverly written with very clever lies and assumptions that are shown as truth and proven facts.
Avalon belongs to all members and only members have been allowed to express their ideas.
You Bill of course can finish Avalon any time and you can make new rules, but it is very strange and sad to see you and your “administrators” breaking your own rules.
Simon Parkes is a very dangerous person…
…yes to a very small but very strong minority of Americans.
So If you were an US citizen (like my young brother) I could understand your move, because some US historical truths (old and recent) that Simon tell us about, are extremely difficult for a normal peaceful dogmatic US citizen to swallow.
I am 76, perhaps old enough to begin to understand human behaviour, but I cannot understand nor approve your move.

[3(C)+me]

People this a good example of an initiation. To what? Are you going to use your commonsense and figure things out or are you going to go into denial and enable someone because you only see a situation from one perspective.
And then refuse to move off that perspective.
Look, it is murky out there but that is part of the test. Is it not?

This waking up thing was NEVER meant to be easy.
And it is not for everyone.

I have fallen for some stupid things but after a while you learn not to be so naïve and just plain stupid.
You learn fast or you are going to be taken or burnt out or just give up wanting to know.

I have to remind you guys this is Bill's forum. He is going to do what he feels is right and he is going to do it his way.
If you don't like it then their are so many forums out there, but you will have to face the same thing, a forum run by a person who you will disagree with.


I never want to look upon Simons face ever.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Oh Sierra Im smiling---Im in total agreement -- I wish it was that easy but it would not surprise me if another star appeared--there seems to be a need for one.

It would surprise me if another star didn't appear ... and another, and another ... .

[syrwong]

Heated debate on the integrity of Simon is not surprising, as he has become an important person in the alternative arena and also is a dangerous person, be it to the supposedly undiscerning Avalon members or to TPTB. What shocked me is the banning of posting on Simon’s information.

This is justified by the mods agreement that the whistleblower has no integrity, for the reason that he has committed crimes, and worse still, on the persons who trusted him.

But the world of disinformation and conspiracy and whistleblowing is not a courtroom, where integrity is an important factor in deciding whether the defendant is guilty or not. Whistleblowers are not judged by their past, they are judged by whether they have the background and possess the information. In fact, a person who has a dishonourable or even wicked past is more likely to have important information to tell. As long as they are sincere, wanting to whistle blow, and can be seen to have the motivation to do so, they can be believed. A whistleblower who has a dishonest past but willing to risk life to tell something may be more believable than a person of integrity who may fear telling the truth is damaging to his reputation.
Notice that integrity is not a fixed quality of a person, it is changeable. A witness of high integrity may evolve for some reason to one of doubtful integrity, as vice versa. This has been shown in this forum many times.

This world is also a world of blackmailing, coercion, money power, threats, mind control and high tech manipulation. Rapid change in integrity is therefore quite possible.

If we ban all those who have behaved without integrity, we may be left with mundane truths, and self-limit our consciousness to a narrow band, instead of what we set out achieve, to expand our consciousness.

[Antihero]

I personally have nothing against shills, they're a great source of information because they can't help but to be obvious in their attempts.
If anything, I thanks them for accelerating the growth and perception of my good friends and myself.


As a side note:
Restricting freedoms and being one sided is far worse than disinfo. IMO.

[Sierra]

Posted by Mike (here)
Ive been whistleblower'ed out for some time now. When Henry Deacon arrived recently with all that goofy coded nonsense, I believe I let out the world's loudest sigh.

Second loudest sigh...

Of course it was going to end badly. ... But it nearly *always* ends that way, doesnt it? That should be a lesson for us..and I hope it is.

It does nearly always end that way. Whether because we think we're being scammed or because the whistleblower (in most cases) is very damaged by mind control atrocities, and really has no say so over what they say. It is actually crazy to ask a mind control victim for life advice. You will never know "who" is talking to you.

It's important to note that someone like Onawah doesnt endorse the things Simon is accused of doing...she simply hasnt made her mind up yet as to whether she believes it all. It's an important distinction to make.

My interpretation of the nonstop creation of thread after thread, is this: I am seeing a determined, driven, focused agenda. To say oh good point, when Bill says he heard a recording of Simon shouting and hanging up on a client, and then go right back to invalidating what was said, because after all it was only one recording, and there may have been a mitigating circumstance, etc. This is doublespeak. Manipulative doublespeak that does not stop, and here we are. Again.

To drive thread after thread, ignoring sexual and emotional damage, ignoring lack of understanding on Simon's part of the consequences of his actions, implying the testimony of multiple witnesses is false is the height of manipulative behavior.

And it's really useless anyway, isn't it? You can't say when evidence piles up repeatedly, ALL those people have agendas, ALL those people are wrong, ALL those people are lying, ALL those people have gotten together behind the scenes to plot, to create a unified, and damning picture of Simon's behavior.

At that point, you have to ask yourself, what are the odds?

... but a thread like this gives the impression of bullying..and thats my issue with it.

But Mike... is bullying people including the witnesses, to believe a version of reality that denies what Simon has done, correct and proper community behavior? We disagree here re who is bullying whom.

It is the bullying that has finally dragged me into the Simon crap after successfully ignoring him for years. And as long as a false version of reality is present, I feel constrained to present evidence for the defense of unwitting people who have not watched the Simon show for years, as we have. No more victims, no more sexual threats, f--- me or else you'll be sorry, no more.

its decided this group's value system is a "no Simon zone", then lets openly declare it, instead of simply implying thru innuendo or threads such as this one (and that would start with banning the guy, wouldn't it?...which i'd support by the way

What innuendo? I've become blatant and loud (and I really hate it but as a mod I have to grit my teeth and do it) about my discomfort with the situation lol, but nothing is getting through is it? The stop button doesn't seem to exist, and that is a real problem. HOW can one ignore what has been going down with Simon using his clientele for sex? Want the bullying to stop? So do I.

Seriously, repeatedly treating multiple member testimony with utter disrespect, in support of a sexual predator, in most cases would earn someone several vacations. Don't say the moderator team has not bent over backwards to give the "underdog" a stage to communicate their opinion. Because we have, evidence in support of the member witness testimony continues to accumulate.

People believe the most outrageous, delusional stuff if we don't check people here occasionally...if we don't say "please stop saying that..thats not true"..if we don't have the courage to do that then we create a very murky sort of fantasy land where truth and fiction - which are already blurred together in most instances - are next to impossible to decipher. We all contribute to it when we let blatant lies go unchecked. So in that sense, we're all responsible for the confusion.

Damn straight. Please stop. Do not let lies against multiple member testimony go unchecked. Do not let "stars" use their position to coerce gullible or ignorant or naive clients into unprotected sex with outrageous fear porn.

If this requires bullying the "underdog" so be it. Some underdog, lol. Mike, I'm utterly sick of the subject as well. I am exhausted at being required to think about ugly stuff, ugly behavior, day after day. I think the information is out there. I think every possible jot and tittle has been covered repeatedly.

I will continue to voice and confirm the evidence given by multiple witnesses, because it is the right thing to do, when someone is working very hard on a daily basis to rewrite reality.

"In a multitude of counsel, there is wisdom."

"The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him."

[greybeard]

I can have respect for anyone and I do---but for the grace of God etc

The Universe is self balancing ---if you fly with the crows you get shot with the crows --karma is such that, what goes round, comes round, so what ever is due to Simon will come to him.
There is no need to be judgmental---there is no escape from your actions ever.
So never any need to get frustrated by anyones actions. though being a mod no doubt can be very trying and testing.

Accepting that action has to be taken and it was important to challenge Simon strongly.

Anyone who wants to follow Simon will no doubt find the next latest episode on U tube, so no need for them to feel deprived.
Hopefully we are done with out right fear porn here.

Chris

ps I really hope that anyone considering a soul reading or anything else from Simon will think again---that is really what it has all been about.

[Chester]

Post #76 is a compelling, powerful and inarguable statement.

The thanks button is clearly not enough.

[bettye198]

Coming to Project Avalon was the fresh breeze after sorting through the muck of other "say anything and hurt anyone" forums. This is why I joined. After the years here, this is the first time I witnessed a blow by blow outrage from a member's post. From the start, I always believed that here, one could post anything they felt was interesting, worthy, or questionable for healthy feedback and discussion. ( only if it did not harm or damage one's belief system) However, I feel a threat lurking that is only my opinion here and hopefully it does pass but I sense trepidation in posting without some kind of similar retaliation. How can anyone know FOR CERTAIN what the intentions are of every whistleblower you tuber or speaker on all these crazy subjects are? It is a crapshoot. I can recall times when Bill had to sit in on spurious whistleblowers and make up his own mind if it was worthy or BS or should he even post it to Camelot? No doubt, these kinds of issues come up. I am all for hard evidence when questions arise. I was waiting for examples of where Simon perpetrated a wrongful harmful act, where he contradicted himself or became psychopathic. But the conjecture seemed to be focused on his history and his counseling efforts of which I have no interest in. God knows we have so much of that out there.

Maybe all of you are 100% right on the nose and the ones who listened to these youtubes are dead wrong in our understanding of his motives and data. But we have choice, from what I always believed to make up our own minds and not fall into mob mentality. ( Sorry if I offend, there is no mal-intent) I do want to engage in meaningful discourse with all of you but there is now a percentage of trepidation which kinda messes with my head.

There are so many questionable ones we have not spent this much time on with posting, like Alex Collier who was with the Andromedans or Stewart Swerdlow who was hugely mind controlled and the long list of others like Barbara Marciniak who is now posting 2016 audio's of her connection to Plieadians who could very well be on the wrong side, so many factions. How on earth do we ever know who is on the right side or wrong side of the Annunaki and Dracs? Whew!

Just my 3 cents. I hope to continue with friendly exchange not banter or defense. We are all civil adults on a quest for truth and that is subjective, isn't it?

[Shannon]

Guys. Can we stop with the "judging Simon by his past" stuff? The guy pulled this creepy chit in the last few years and months ... Not 10 years ago. And he just posted his lame apology blaming his fake annunaki dad then pulled it down about two months ago. So please spare all the judging of the past stuff. The pain he has caused is very real and in the right now!


Thank you